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"No, it's because I'm ignorant." Is Snapchat the one where photos last ten seconds only, then they're gone? And the Pulitzer prize is some American thing, right? (As opposed to Pulletzer prize, some chicken thing.) [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 11:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 
"No, it's because I'm ignorant." Is Snapchat the one where photos last ten seconds only, then they're gone? And the Pulitzer prize is some American thing, right? (As opposed to Pulletzer prize, some chicken thing.) [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 11:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 
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:Pulitzer prize is a worldwide prize for Journalism (amongst which Photography is a category) and arts (drama, etc). {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.92}}
Pulitzer prize is a worldwide prize for Journalism (amongst which Photography is a category) and arts (drama, etc). {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.92}}
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::Its for published items from the U.S., not worldwide.~d {{unsigned ip|108.162.221.96}}
 
 
Its for published items from the U.S., not worldwide.~d {{unsigned ip|108.162.221.96}}
 
  
 
Should there be some level of explanation that in spite of Snaps "self destructing" people often save screenshots of Snaps meaning that the picture is probably out there somewhere? Possibly even saved by the Pulitzer committee? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.242|108.162.237.242]] 15:49, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 
Should there be some level of explanation that in spite of Snaps "self destructing" people often save screenshots of Snaps meaning that the picture is probably out there somewhere? Possibly even saved by the Pulitzer committee? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.242|108.162.237.242]] 15:49, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
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:Probably should somehow work in the reference to the fact that you can permanently save screenshots, as a counter to the title text. Also, it's not a few seconds but 24 hours.
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::That has been done. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
  
 
I'm pretty sure in the title text ("...while it's still fresh in the committee's memory") the "it" is referring to the picture, not the name of the person who took it, as stated in the above explanation. I'm not sure though, and do not like to change these things, so if someone else could look it over and, if necessary, change it, it would be much appreciated.--[[User:Snewmark|Snewmark]] ([[User talk:Snewmark|talk]]) 18:46, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 
I'm pretty sure in the title text ("...while it's still fresh in the committee's memory") the "it" is referring to the picture, not the name of the person who took it, as stated in the above explanation. I'm not sure though, and do not like to change these things, so if someone else could look it over and, if necessary, change it, it would be much appreciated.--[[User:Snewmark|Snewmark]] ([[User talk:Snewmark|talk]]) 18:46, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:I agree with your assessment. I've changed the text to only refer to forgetting what the picture looked like; after all, the winner's name can simply be written down, whereas few committee members likely have the skill to sketch a decent reproduction of the snap from the memory of 10 seconds or less of viewing it. [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] ([[User talk:Dansiman|talk]]) 21:05, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:I agree with your assessment. I've changed the text to only refer to forgetting what the picture looked like; after all, the winner's name can simply be written down, whereas few committee members likely have the skill to sketch a decent reproduction of the snap from the memory of 10 seconds or less of viewing it. [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] ([[User talk:Dansiman|talk]]) 21:05, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 
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::For sure, great that it was corrected. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Probably should somehow work in the reference to the fact that you can permanently save screenshots, as a counter to the title text. Also, it's not a few seconds but 24 hours.
 
  
 
There's some hole in the logic here.  Cueball has not yet viewed the picture, so a limit of a few seconds view for each viewer would not prevent him seeing it.  His few seconds hasn't started running yet.  (Quite apart from the issue of honouring that on the client side.)  His reaction implies that he's missed all chance of seeing the picture, which would require there to be some other restriction, such as the picture only being available for a very limited time from when it was posted, or there being no way to select a specific picture to view.  The Wikipedia article on Snapchat doesn't mention any overall restriction of those kinds, but does describe the harsh per-viewer time restriction on actual viewing.  What am I missing?  [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.74|141.101.98.74]] 06:31, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
There's some hole in the logic here.  Cueball has not yet viewed the picture, so a limit of a few seconds view for each viewer would not prevent him seeing it.  His few seconds hasn't started running yet.  (Quite apart from the issue of honouring that on the client side.)  His reaction implies that he's missed all chance of seeing the picture, which would require there to be some other restriction, such as the picture only being available for a very limited time from when it was posted, or there being no way to select a specific picture to view.  The Wikipedia article on Snapchat doesn't mention any overall restriction of those kinds, but does describe the harsh per-viewer time restriction on actual viewing.  What am I missing?  [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.74|141.101.98.74]] 06:31, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
 
:You're missing the time lag for a committee to make a decision and release a press release on it. They may not have looked at the photo before 23 hours were up.  Normally this takes months. Possibly this has taken just under 24 hours and by the time Cueball has looked,  it's gone forever [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 06:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
:You're missing the time lag for a committee to make a decision and release a press release on it. They may not have looked at the photo before 23 hours were up.  Normally this takes months. Possibly this has taken just under 24 hours and by the time Cueball has looked,  it's gone forever [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 06:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
 
::So there *is* an expiration a limited time after the picture was posted?  In addition to the ten-seconds-of-viewing limit?  If there is, that would be what I missed, not decision-making lag.  [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.74|141.101.98.74]] 08:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
::So there *is* an expiration a limited time after the picture was posted?  In addition to the ten-seconds-of-viewing limit?  If there is, that would be what I missed, not decision-making lag.  [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.74|141.101.98.74]] 08:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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:::I have tried to include more content on the function of Snapchat. Having never used it myself but just read on wiki someone might improve. But it was some valid points made in this thread and it needed to be addressed in the explanation, and now it is. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
  
 
"The awards were always intended to include the Arts, as well as reportage, but not so many people may realise that Poetry, Drama and Music also get rewarded" -- does this imply that poetry, drama, and music aren't part of the arts? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.40|141.101.98.40]] 14:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 
"The awards were always intended to include the Arts, as well as reportage, but not so many people may realise that Poetry, Drama and Music also get rewarded" -- does this imply that poetry, drama, and music aren't part of the arts? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.40|141.101.98.40]] 14:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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"No, it's because I'm ignorant." Is Snapchat the one where photos last ten seconds only, then they're gone? And the Pulitzer prize is some American thing, right? (As opposed to Pulletzer prize, some chicken thing.) 198.41.238.32 11:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Pulitzer prize is a worldwide prize for Journalism (amongst which Photography is a category) and arts (drama, etc). 141.101.104.92 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
Its for published items from the U.S., not worldwide.~d 108.162.221.96 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Should there be some level of explanation that in spite of Snaps "self destructing" people often save screenshots of Snaps meaning that the picture is probably out there somewhere? Possibly even saved by the Pulitzer committee? 108.162.237.242 15:49, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Probably should somehow work in the reference to the fact that you can permanently save screenshots, as a counter to the title text. Also, it's not a few seconds but 24 hours.
That has been done. --Kynde (talk) 14:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure in the title text ("...while it's still fresh in the committee's memory") the "it" is referring to the picture, not the name of the person who took it, as stated in the above explanation. I'm not sure though, and do not like to change these things, so if someone else could look it over and, if necessary, change it, it would be much appreciated.--Snewmark (talk) 18:46, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment. I've changed the text to only refer to forgetting what the picture looked like; after all, the winner's name can simply be written down, whereas few committee members likely have the skill to sketch a decent reproduction of the snap from the memory of 10 seconds or less of viewing it. Dansiman (talk) 21:05, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
For sure, great that it was corrected. --Kynde (talk) 14:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

There's some hole in the logic here. Cueball has not yet viewed the picture, so a limit of a few seconds view for each viewer would not prevent him seeing it. His few seconds hasn't started running yet. (Quite apart from the issue of honouring that on the client side.) His reaction implies that he's missed all chance of seeing the picture, which would require there to be some other restriction, such as the picture only being available for a very limited time from when it was posted, or there being no way to select a specific picture to view. The Wikipedia article on Snapchat doesn't mention any overall restriction of those kinds, but does describe the harsh per-viewer time restriction on actual viewing. What am I missing? 141.101.98.74 06:31, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

You're missing the time lag for a committee to make a decision and release a press release on it. They may not have looked at the photo before 23 hours were up. Normally this takes months. Possibly this has taken just under 24 hours and by the time Cueball has looked, it's gone forever Kev (talk) 06:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
So there *is* an expiration a limited time after the picture was posted? In addition to the ten-seconds-of-viewing limit? If there is, that would be what I missed, not decision-making lag. 141.101.98.74 08:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I have tried to include more content on the function of Snapchat. Having never used it myself but just read on wiki someone might improve. But it was some valid points made in this thread and it needed to be addressed in the explanation, and now it is. --Kynde (talk) 14:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

"The awards were always intended to include the Arts, as well as reportage, but not so many people may realise that Poetry, Drama and Music also get rewarded" -- does this imply that poetry, drama, and music aren't part of the arts? 141.101.98.40 14:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)