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Talk:2299: Coronavirus Genome 2

2020-05-03T18:52:23Z

108.162.229.176: I'm dumb ... edited my nickname because of a typo. Nikch ²+ -> Nickh ²+

How long is it likely to be before somebody does this? Hours? Minutes? [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 23:56, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
: I'd do it myself right now if I still used Facebook... and if I knew where to find it... [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.115|173.245.54.115]] 01:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:: [https://www.facebook.com/paul.zy.zhang/posts/921162404972081 I did.] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. [[User:In vivo veritas|In vivo veritas]] ([[User talk:In vivo veritas|talk]]) 01:54, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
::: Although, I wouldn't be surprised if someone's beaten me to the punch. [[User:In vivo veritas|In vivo veritas]] ([[User talk:In vivo veritas|talk]]) 03:32, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:::: I would be very surprised if someone didn't already posted it days before this XKCD was drawn. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:06, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

I find it pretty funny that while you can't tweet it, per a recent twitter discovery, you could set that genome as your official gender on twitter (proof of character limit, as an example: https://twitter.com/FaxonFury/status/1254775943664504832). [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.110|172.69.22.110]] 09:03, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

In fact, someone already tweeted it [https://twitter.com/thetimgor/status/1246936548240756737 three weeks ago], but they cheated by encoding it into base-64. [https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1246936548240756737.html Here it is on threadreaderapp]. [[User:Arcorann|Arcorann]] ([[User talk:Arcorann|talk]]) 11:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
: Timgor also made a series of tweets, not just one. Cueball gave up on Twitter too easily. --[[User:NotaBene|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene|talk]]) 12:02, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
: I'm wondering what an LZW-type compression scheme could do to sequences, especially with the propensity for repeating sequences (at least outside viruses). And with a known short alphabet you could pre-tune it to work with just four "literal" items and free up a lot more (starting shorter) "dictionary" slots right from the get-go. Not gonna reduce to single-Tweet lengths, even if you could transmit your encoded prompts all across the unicode character sets rather than in 7ish-bit or nearly-8-bit data only. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.211|162.158.158.211]] 12:22, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:: <code>xz -9e sequence.fasta</code> compressed the SARS-CoV-2 genome from 30 kb to 9 kb. Impressive, but not nearly enough to fit in a single tweet. Perhaps the entire genome could fit within an image? Then use OCR to convert back to text. [[User:In vivo veritas|In vivo veritas]] ([[User talk:In vivo veritas|talk]]) 16:14, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Well, you can just tweet a link to another website where it is given as text... easier than actual compressing. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 05:23, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
:::: If you converted each base pair into a 2-bit value and then converted this raw image into a png: Would twitter allow you to send losslessly-encoded images? [[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 10:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

When ''I'' started reading it, I fully expected the punchline was going to be something about emailing viruses, and/or something about virus checkers letting it get through undetected. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.67|172.69.35.67]] 16:53, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Is the wednesday comic missing? It should be Thursday now in Randalls time zone as well...--[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 05:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
: Haven't seen it either, it is almost Thursday in PDT. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.132|172.69.34.132]] 06:38, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
::Seems he have missed a release. Although it it still Wednesday for three more hours in Hawaii and a few more hours near the date line... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 06:59, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Could be a reference to GenomeTweet series of accounts done by Jennifer Harrison @GeneticJen between 2013 and 2014? 
There are been posted - in "CTAG" non-compressed - format on Twitter HIV ''(HIV-1, 20131030-20131030)'', E. coli ''(GenomeTweet @GenomeTwee, 201307__-20131208)'', yeast ''(S. cerevisiae, GenomeTweet - Fungi @GenomeFungi, 201310__-20140318)'', nematode ''(C. elegans, GenomeTweet Nematode @GenomeNematode, 201311_-20140121)'', and fruit fly ''(Drosophila melanogaster, GenomeTweet - Fly @GenomeTweetFly, 201311__-20140203)'' genomes. 
The human genome is [was?] underway. 
All of these were made by Jennifer Harrison @GeneticJen. 
I've found them thanks to geneticjen.com/genometweet-the-first-genomes-on-twitter (its source is off-line now and not archived by web.archive.org) 20190820 post. 
''Have a nice day! Nickh ²+, --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.176|108.162.229.176]] 18:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC).''

Talk:2299: Coronavirus Genome 2

2020-05-03T18:50:15Z

108.162.229.176: Possibile reference to GenomeTweet series?

How long is it likely to be before somebody does this? Hours? Minutes? [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 23:56, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
: I'd do it myself right now if I still used Facebook... and if I knew where to find it... [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.115|173.245.54.115]] 01:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:: [https://www.facebook.com/paul.zy.zhang/posts/921162404972081 I did.] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. [[User:In vivo veritas|In vivo veritas]] ([[User talk:In vivo veritas|talk]]) 01:54, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
::: Although, I wouldn't be surprised if someone's beaten me to the punch. [[User:In vivo veritas|In vivo veritas]] ([[User talk:In vivo veritas|talk]]) 03:32, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:::: I would be very surprised if someone didn't already posted it days before this XKCD was drawn. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:06, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

I find it pretty funny that while you can't tweet it, per a recent twitter discovery, you could set that genome as your official gender on twitter (proof of character limit, as an example: https://twitter.com/FaxonFury/status/1254775943664504832). [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.110|172.69.22.110]] 09:03, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

In fact, someone already tweeted it [https://twitter.com/thetimgor/status/1246936548240756737 three weeks ago], but they cheated by encoding it into base-64. [https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1246936548240756737.html Here it is on threadreaderapp]. [[User:Arcorann|Arcorann]] ([[User talk:Arcorann|talk]]) 11:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
: Timgor also made a series of tweets, not just one. Cueball gave up on Twitter too easily. --[[User:NotaBene|NotaBene]] ([[User talk:NotaBene|talk]]) 12:02, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
: I'm wondering what an LZW-type compression scheme could do to sequences, especially with the propensity for repeating sequences (at least outside viruses). And with a known short alphabet you could pre-tune it to work with just four "literal" items and free up a lot more (starting shorter) "dictionary" slots right from the get-go. Not gonna reduce to single-Tweet lengths, even if you could transmit your encoded prompts all across the unicode character sets rather than in 7ish-bit or nearly-8-bit data only. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.211|162.158.158.211]] 12:22, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:: <code>xz -9e sequence.fasta</code> compressed the SARS-CoV-2 genome from 30 kb to 9 kb. Impressive, but not nearly enough to fit in a single tweet. Perhaps the entire genome could fit within an image? Then use OCR to convert back to text. [[User:In vivo veritas|In vivo veritas]] ([[User talk:In vivo veritas|talk]]) 16:14, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Well, you can just tweet a link to another website where it is given as text... easier than actual compressing. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 05:23, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
:::: If you converted each base pair into a 2-bit value and then converted this raw image into a png: Would twitter allow you to send losslessly-encoded images? [[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 10:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

When ''I'' started reading it, I fully expected the punchline was going to be something about emailing viruses, and/or something about virus checkers letting it get through undetected. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.67|172.69.35.67]] 16:53, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Is the wednesday comic missing? It should be Thursday now in Randalls time zone as well...--[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 05:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
: Haven't seen it either, it is almost Thursday in PDT. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.132|172.69.34.132]] 06:38, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
::Seems he have missed a release. Although it it still Wednesday for three more hours in Hawaii and a few more hours near the date line... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 06:59, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Could be a reference to GenomeTweet series of accounts done by Jennifer Harrison @GeneticJen between 2013 and 2014? 
There are been posted - in "CTAG" non-compressed - format on Twitter HIV ''(HIV-1, 20131030-20131030)'', E. coli ''(GenomeTweet @GenomeTwee, 201307__-20131208)'', yeast ''(S. cerevisiae, GenomeTweet - Fungi @GenomeFungi, 201310__-20140318)'', nematode ''(C. elegans, GenomeTweet Nematode @GenomeNematode, 201311_-20140121)'', and fruit fly ''(Drosophila melanogaster, GenomeTweet - Fly @GenomeTweetFly, 201311__-20140203)'' genomes. 
The human genome is [was?] underway. 
All of these were made by Jennifer Harrison @GeneticJen. 
I've found them thanks to geneticjen.com/genometweet-the-first-genomes-on-twitter (its source is off-line now and not archived by web.archive.org) 20190820 post. 
''Have a nice day! Nikch ²+, --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.176|108.162.229.176]] 18:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC).''