Talk:2958: Hatchery

2024-07-15T19:16:45Z

172.69.65.189: fish shell is the spawn of ...

Aren't hatcheries usually about breeding fish, not farming them?[[User:RadiantRainwing|RadiantRainwing]] ([[User talk:RadiantRainwing|talk]]) 23:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:Well farming sheep often involves the lambing process (though you ''can'' just buy in fresh surplus tups every year, from wherever happens to suit your price/quality thresholds, if that's your thing), so "farming" is a wide application in terms of animal husbandry (as well as agriculture, though ''perhaps'' in some arboriculture/horticulture/viniculture situations you needn't do the initial seeding, and just buy in the juvenile plants).
:Open-water "Fish-farms" may be more likely to get their fry/big-enough-to-keep-netted-youngsters from an 'on-shore' breeding facility that ''may'' be a separate supplier, but I'd probably accept the description of the breeding facility (in 'barrels', quite possibly) as 'farming', even if it's not a full-lifetime aquaponics setup, just had mysteriously internet-accessible firearms trained upon the various tanks of growing fish. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.120|172.70.163.120]] 10:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:Comic does not say "farm" anywhere? [[User:PRR|PRR]] ([[User talk:PRR|talk]]) 20:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::Although it's missing a trick by not doing so — would have given the opportunity for a further fish farm/server farm pun.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.63|172.69.195.63]] 08:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Reading it, I first thought it was about Call of Duty, an fps game series. Its usual abbreviation is COD, but this might be coincidence.[[User:Intara|Intara]] ([[User talk:Intara|talk]]) 01:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

:As funny as that is, it is almost certainly coincidence. An incredible, hilarious one to be sure, but still most likely a coincidence.[[User:OmniDoom|OmniDoom]] ([[User talk:OmniDoom|talk]]) 06:50, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

::I noticed [[792]] also features Black Hat, is about hacking and mentions CoD4 tournaments, but I guess it isn't part of this comic's joke. [[User:Asdf|Asdf]] ([[User talk:Asdf|talk]]) 08:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

:::I actually think the 'CoD' connection might be something. A hatchery is (amongst other things) where fish spawn. Someone sitting at a computer remotely executing cod as they spawn definitely feels like it might be some kind of 'spawn camping' joke. Also he mentions shooting and there's a 'blam' sound effect. Both of which I don't think fit that well with the pure cod/code pun, but make more sense if it's partially a reference to killing helpless players in an FPS as they first spawn. It feels intentional to me, but also very awkward, so I suspect I'm missing something. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.226|172.69.43.226]] 12:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

::::I recall a "remote controlled gun" from elsewhere in the xkcd canon. Can't immedaitely find it (was it somewhere in a What-If/off the usual numbered comics?) but eveything in this ones scenario screams at "actual gun (in a fish-farm) being controlled via a monitor". I'll have to use a bit better Google-Fu and discover which precise prior art I'm ''actually'' thinking of, out of the nearly (or slightly over, depending upon what I include) 3000 possibilities.
::::And I rather think that if this was a pun (even partially a pun) on Call Of Duty, there'd be a few more actually direct references to this than merely "something you do on a computer". [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.144|172.70.90.144]] 17:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

:::::Maybe originally there was meant to be a more obvious CoD connection, but it was dropped to make the cod(fish)/code pun(s) smoother? I'm not sure. Still, the title text seems to not reference CoD. [[User:Asdf|Asdf]] ([[User talk:Asdf|talk]]) 17:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

:::I just want to observe that despite Randall's convention for using all-caps in his comics, in the above-referenced CoD [[792]] comic, he does stylize that specific abbreviation with a lower-case "o". He doesn't do that here. [[User:L-Space Traveler|L-Space Traveler]] ([[User talk:L-Space Traveler|talk]]) 17:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

::::I assumed this comic's cod/code pun wouldn't be as effective if it used a lowercase "o". Even ''if'' the comic also references Call of Duty, I think using all-caps "COD" here is still understandable. [[User:Asdf|Asdf]] ([[User talk:Asdf|talk]]) 18:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

I wonder if this is also inspired by the [https://visdeurbel.nl/en/about-the-fish-doorbell/ fish doorbell] set up so that users watching a webcam of a river lock can see when a fish is waiting and press a button to open the lock so the fish can continue swimming upstream to spawn. The title "hatchery" doesn't ''quite'' match but doesn't seem that far off. --Zeborah
::I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but I'm glad you put the reference here - I've never heard of it before, and it's awesome! [[User:L-Space Traveler|L-Space Traveler]] ([[User talk:L-Space Traveler|talk]]) 17:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Is the fish shell daemon-spawn? Asking for a friend. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.65.189|172.69.65.189]] 19:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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