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Talk:3132: Coastline Similarity

2025-08-25T17:54:31Z

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Lol what [[User:SectorCorruptor|SectorCorruptor]] ([[User talk:SectorCorruptor|talk]]) 16:20, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
:Lol what --'''''[[User:DollarStoreBa'al |DollarStoreBa'al]][[User talk:DollarStoreBa'al |'''''Converse''''']][[Special:Contributions/DollarStoreBa'al|'''''My life choices''''']] 17:30, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
::Lol what [[User:Broseph|Broseph]] ([[User talk:Broseph|talk]]) 18:13, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Lol what [[User:CalibansCreations|'''Caliban''']] ([[User talk:CalibansCreations|talk]]) 18:52, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Lol what [[Special:Contributions/24.54.131.250|24.54.131.250]] 19:24, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Lol what [[Special:Contributions/2001:67C:2564:A301:C26:D05F:D5AA:CA02|2001:67C:2564:A301:C26:D05F:D5AA:CA02]] 21:46, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::Lol what [[User:Aprilfoolsupdate!| Aprilfoolsupdate!]]([[User talk:Aprilfoolsupdate!|talk]]) 08:16, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

^^^Plagerism at work^^^ [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 02:18, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

npcs [[user:lett‪herebedarklight|raeb]] 14:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Plagiarism might refer to the designer of one of the coastlinescopying the design of the other one (a reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy).
[[Special:Contributions/147.234.73.125|147.234.73.125]] 22:56, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
:Given that Randall has made references to the guide and that a main part of the first book is talking to Slatibartfast who designed the Norvegian fjords, and later had to just do Africa, could actually mean that this is what Randall/Cueball is thinking of... Should this be mentioned in the explanation? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:14, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
::Can one (even a Planetary Designer) ever ''self-''plagiarise? The same guy got given a different(/additional) part of the replacement Earth and tried his old award-winning design again... I don't think that counts as plagiarism. There are better ways to describe it, so I say it's an inspiration too far.
::At least how it turned out... might have progressed through different stages, say Zlarti got to do Africa, ''then'' to do South America, and he still had some of the large-scale patterns and molds so just re-used them on the other side of the adjacent continent, etc... but that's a stretch of reverse-engineering the joke to the supposed cause, long since diluted if it was ever part of the original concept. Mention it, if you must, but I don't think it's anything to do with that. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.236.41|82.132.236.41]] 17:54, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm the comic "Coastline similarity" is likely a roof on "Cosine Similarity" which is used in software industry to measure how close two images are. This method is also used to detect plagiarism. {{unsigned ip|108.76.190.132|23:00, 22 August 2025}}

F***ing vandals. Best of luck, I'm gonna bunker down until this blows over. [[Special:Contributions/207.195.86.18|207.195.86.18]] 01:47, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

EDIT: To the dumbs*** who apparently doesn't know how curse words are used: referring to "f***ing X" is a way of expressing HATRED towards X, not love.

:I mean to play devils advocate you did pick the single most versatile word in the English lexicon. Capable of not only being a noun, a verb and an adjective, but also an adverb and probably more too. How are we to know without cultural context clues? (Signed a coitus looter)

My dad once had the opposite conversation with his teacher, where he asked if the two continents had ever been connected and his teacher scoffed at him because continental drift wasn't widely-known yet. --[[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:500:18B3:38A0:233D:17B2:D289|2603:800C:500:18B3:38A0:233D:17B2:D289]] 16:05, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

78: Garfield

2025-08-25T17:42:15Z

82.132.236.41: Undo revision 384980 by 2001:4450:813D:C800:3DC8:C498:516D:9F14 (talk) Learn wikimarkup *and* the site-specific Transcript style...)

{{comic
| number = 78
| date = March 20, 2006
| title = Garfield
| image = garfield.jpg
| titletext = The use of the 'Garfield' character for the purposes of this parody qualifies as fair use under the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. sec. 107. See Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music (92-1292), 510 U.S. 569
}}

==Explanation==
The newspaper comic strip {{w|Garfield}}, which features an orange cat as the main character, has increasingly been known for repetitive, quality-lacking strips. In the past, this was because the creator, {{w|Jim Davis (cartoonist)|Jim Davis}}, prefers to explore the same subjects he is comfortable with but in different ways — or from a less charitable view, because the strip is intended for a wide audience and thus becomes homogenized and inoffensive by nature. This attitude has only become more pronounced in the 21st century, as the aging Davis becomes less and less interested in the franchise. Regardless of the reason, these strips are now {{w|Ghostwriter|ghost written}} with little input from Davis and rarely explore the unconventional. The comic is challenging Davis to do something unexpected and surprise us all. The comic also accuses Davis of being a "sellout", sticking to bourgeois/commercial logic, something that Dadaist artists challenged.

{{w|Dadaism}} was an artistic movement in the early 20th century marked primarily by chaos, irrationality, and surrealism. Some of the artists believed that the bourgeois logic made human beings unhappy and therefore led to war. [[Randall Munroe|Randall]] leads by example by featuring a strip that parodies the style of Garfield, with multiple colors (xkcd usually contains only black and white, with some few containing an additional color like red or yellow) and a character that is not a stick figure breaking the normal xkcd pattern. Another Dadaist aspect is the fact that while Garfield is smiling, he is communicating something that could be considered terrifying.

The title text explains that xkcd is exercising legal use of Davis's intellectual property, namely the title character of his comic. The Supreme Court case mentioned, ''{{w|Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music}}'', confirmed that parody is legal even when there is commercial gain as a result, and also referenced the {{w|Copyright Act of 1976}}, 17 U.S.C. § 107, for the same reason. While this is normally understood by most anyone who questions such matters, Randall includes it as a reference to the lessening of strict copyright law, which many comics also mention, usually in the context of {{w|free software}} and those who promote it, like in the comics featuring [[Richard Stallman]].

==Transcript==
{{incomplete transcript|Need to describe the colours and the style better for people who aren't familiar with the newspaper style.
:An {{diff|384703|edit to this Transcript}} was reverted, as rather more like another Explanation ''and'' badly wikiformatted. Possibly ''some'' of might be useful here, but someone would need to check thoroughly.}}
:[This strip takes the form of a parody of the traditional shape for Sunday installments of newspaper strips; specifically the half-page format.]
:I want to see something unexpected in comics. Just one strip could make up for it all.
:[Garfield is standing on hind legs facing and looking directly at the camera. But is off-center in the frame, about 1/3 from the left, rotated very slightly clockwise.]
:[Zoom in on Garfield, still to the left, now rotated slightly counterclockwise.]
:[Zoom in again on Garfield, now the frame clips off the left side of his face.]
:Garfield thought bubble: The world is burning.
:[Final zoom in, the frame is ripped like a page, offset, and Garfield's eyes are half closed on the right half.]
:Garfield thought bubble: Run.
:Caption below the comic: Jim Davis, throw off your commercial shackles. Challenge us. Go out in a blaze of Dadaist glory. There is still time.

==Trivia==
*This is the first comic to use all-caps lettering, the second being [[90: Jacket]]. The all-caps lettering in this strip is likely due to the fact that most newspaper strips, such as Garfield, use all-caps lettering to make it easier to distinguish letters under poor printing quality quite possible with newsprint.

*The comic number (78) corresponds to the year Garfield debuted (1978).

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3127: Where Babies Come From

2025-08-12T10:42:58Z

82.132.236.41: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 3127
| date = August 11, 2025
| title = Where Babies Come From
| image = where_babies_come_from_2x.png
| imagesize = 652x362px
| noexpand = true
| titletext = Historians: Contemporaneous documentation of the initial events is often sparse, and in fact people often get testy and uncooperative when we urge better documentation for the historical record.
}}

==Explanation==
Children are often curious, and ask a lot of questions about the world around them. One such question that tends to come up at some point is "where do babies come from?" and it's notable as one that many adults are uncomfortable giving correct answers to, because of the common reluctance to discuss sex-related matters with youngsters. While children are sometimes told that there's a baby inside a pregnant woman's tummy, the issues of how the baby got in there, or how it's supposed to get out, are often dodged. There are a variety of common myths about where babies come from, as told to children, such as "brought by a stork", "found in a cabbage patch", or [https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1987/04/18 "built from a kit"]. This comic presents a variety of answers to that question, supposedly from the point of view of specialists in several different areas of science, some of which are incorrect, others of which are allusions to the process of conception or childbirth expressed in the vocabulary of the specialist's field.

They might be deliberately misleading the questioner by using very euphemistic terms to avoid personal embarrassment, deliberately over-'simplifying' the explanation as a {{w|Lie-to-children|stepping stone}} to the eventual more specific truth or else they are themselves ignorant/misled about the process. In each case, however, their abstraction of the process is described in terms that are actually relatively technical ones from their own field, to the presumed audience, showing that they are not necessarily able to find the right level of explanation, as well as not having used a less obtuse reframing of the topic much closer to that of actual reproductive biology.

;Geneticist: Terms normally used to describe gene flow among populations (for example, the acquisition through intermarriage of genes for blue eyes in a population that previously lacked them) are applied to the fertilization of a human egg, a very specific "admixture event" (zygote formation). Population-level admixtures are commonly dated to thousands or even millions of years ago; KYA = "one thousand years ago". 0.001 KYA = 1 year, [[2205: Types of Approximation|approximately]] the duration of most human pregnancies. Fellow geneticists would likely commend their colleague's wit. Children, and most everyone else, would likely just go "Huh?"

;Astronomer: Ejections of matter from parent bodies are common events in the galaxy and the observable universe, at scales ranging from comets to black holes. The process of giving birth is compared to a "low-impulse" ejection, such as the casting off of rocks and dust from a rotating asteroid. Such a comparison, while it may make sense in cosmology, is unlikely to find favor with any woman who is, or has ever been, in labor.
:Alternately the "low-impulse ejection" could refer to ejaculation, not the act of giving birth. The former would have a considerably higher impulse than the latter but it's still very low on a cosmic scale and would still qualify as "low-impulse".

;Software Engineer: An {{w|off-by-one error}} is a common programming mistake in which a value is, well, off by one. A birth could be described as a "population" metric increasing by one, or alternately, a baby could cause a static population metric to become off-by-one.

;Geologist: The baby is said to have been created by the process of differential erosion, in which softer rocks are eroded more quickly, leaving harder rocks behind. Arguably, a geologist who was making a serious attempt to compare geological and biological processes would recognize that the growth of a fetus has much more in common with accretionary, rather than erosional, mechanisms. Granting that the geologist depicted is witty and not clueless, this explanation is the most intentionally farcical, the most {{w|List_of_Calvin_and_Hobbes_characters#Mom_and_Dad|Calvin's Dad}}, of the five.

;Meteorologist: Turbulent mixing of air masses ("turbulence") has been experienced by just about everyone who has ever been in an airborne aircraft. Turbulence can occur at all levels of the atmosphere from the ground up, and is frequently accompanied by clouds and precipitation. It is a pungent metaphor for coitus. Fasten your seat belts.

;Historians (title text): Instead of proffering an explanation for "where babies come from", the historians (plural) lodge a complaint about the difficulties they have encountered in obtaining the data needed for them to make one. The plaint is a common preamble and disclaimer in formal history publications. The historians express surprise and indignation that their efforts to obtain "better documentation" of the "initial events" (the mating behavior) leading to baby formation are seen as prurient and voyeuristic, and are met with resistance.

==Transcript==

:Various experts answer the question “Where do babies come from?”
:[Five characters are shown, left to right, each saying their answer. Below each character is their respective occupation.]
:Hairy [Geneticist]: Recent admixture event, roughly 0.001 Kya.
:Ponytail [Astronomer]: Low-impulse ejection from a parent body.
:Hairbun [Software engineer]: Off-by-one error in the population calculations.
:Cueball [Geologist]: The area was originally a uniform plane, but the non-baby parts eroded at higher rates.
:Megan [Meteorologist]: Moist ground-level turbulent mixing.

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3116: Echo Chamber

2025-08-12T01:49:30Z

82.132.236.41: /* Trivia */

{{comic
| number = 3116
| date = July 16, 2025
| title = Echo Chamber
| image = echo_chamber_2x.png
| imagesize = 383x296px
| noexpand = true
| titletext = This is almost as bad as the time I signed up for a purely partisan fishing expedition.
}}

==Explanation==
An {{w|echo chamber}} is a structure designed to maximise acoustic reverberation, and therefore echoes. In cultural terms, and particularly with social media, a ''metaphorical'' {{w|Echo chamber (media)|echo chamber}} reverberates the opinions of a group of individuals so that those individuals perceive those opinions as being the social norm. This has resulted in {{w|political polarisation}} and to conspiracy theories such as {{w|Pizzagate conspiracy theory|Pizzagate}}.

[[Cueball]] appears to have confused the two and built a physical chamber designed to echo back the sound of videos he is watching on social media. Unsurprisingly to the reader, but apparently not to Cueball, this turns out to be very annoying. Specifically, he appears to be watching cat videos, which are stereotypical social media content, but not usually the kind that produces accusations of 'echo chambers'. The "Mittens" mentioned in the audio is a stereotypical cat name.

Similarly, the "partisan fishing expedition" referenced in the title text has differing metaphorical and real-life interpretations. A metaphorical "fishing expedition" is an investigation begun on flimsy or no evidence to try to find unsavory or incriminating behavior. When such an investigation is motivated by political considerations in favor of one particular political party, it may be referred to as a "partisan fishing expedition". A "purely partisan fishing expedition" would involve a trip to catch actual fish where all the people on the fishing trip were either {{w|partisan (politics)|committed members of one political party}}, {{w|partisan (military)|members of domestic irregular military forces}}, or possibly one where such people were the intended catch. Alternatively, it could be a {{w|spearfishing}} expedition, as a {{w|partisan (weapon)|partisan}} is a type of polearm. It is unclear what strange mashup of the above Cueball found himself involved in, but at the very least it turned out to be deeply unsatisfying, if not actually dangerous.

==Transcript==
:[Cueball is sitting on a chair with his hands covering his ears. He is in a circular room with a phone on a stand. All words coming out of the phone are repeated everywhere, getting larger and less opaque]

:Phone: Here's Mittens falling into the laundry hamper for the third time today!
:[Caption below panel:]
:Now that I've built one, I finally get why people complain about social media echo chambers.

==Trivia==
Faint grey letters can be seen behind the letters of the comic caption. This is presumably a remnant of the drafting process Randall commonly uses in his comics, although this is usually more obvious when the original spacing and layout is significantly different, unlike this example which seems to have been solidified almost exactly the same as this possible original tracing. It could also be an entirely intentional artefact, as depicting further subtle "echoes".

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3127: Where Babies Come From

2025-08-12T01:41:44Z

82.132.236.41: /* Explanation */

Talk:3097: Bridge Types

2025-08-12T01:15:24Z

82.132.236.41:

For budget overrun, see olympic stadium of Montreal, Quebec, Canada. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.202|162.158.126.202]] 01:23, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Very disappointed there's no bridge card game reference, but I guess that's not one of Randall's types of nerdiness :( [[Special:Contributions/172.71.254.203|172.71.254.203]] 01:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I would like to note that cable stayed bridges, budget overrun here, are much cheaper than equivalent suspension bridges. It because they use less materials and can be built faster meaning less labor. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.51|172.69.58.51]] 01:50, 3 June 2025‎
:Tru dat in general, but I think that this is a reference to the {{w|Leonard_P._Zakim_Bunker_Hill_Memorial_Bridge|Zakim Bridge}} in downtown Boston, part of the {{w|Big_Dig|"Big Dig"}} project that became notorious for its budget overruns and related shenanigans. Given that Randall M. lives in Boston, that makes this panel something of an inside joke. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.147.224|172.71.147.224]] 03:15, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The [[wikipedia:St. Louis Arch|St. Louis Arch]] is a repurposed-elevator-suspended-arch-but-without-the-base-and-wires bridge if you squint hard enough. The elevator is also fun. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.67.214|172.69.67.214]] 01:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Nothing about a a [[wikipedia:Bridge circuit|bridge circuit]] or these [[Wikipedia:Bridges (disambiguation)|many]] [[wikipedia:other|other]] bridges either. Sigh. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.67.214|172.69.67.214]] 01:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:And where, oh where, are Lloyd, Beau, Jeff, and Jordan? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.84|162.158.41.84]] 03:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The L'Engle is a take off on a Wrinkle in time? But this one is in space? -- [[User:162.158.91.124|162.158.91.124]] ([[User talk:162.158.91.124|talk]]) 02:26, 3 June 2025‎ ''(please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~</nowiki>~~)''
:There's some space-warping in L'Engle's books. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.174.63|162.158.174.63]] 02:44, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The "budget overrun" bridge doesn't really look like the Zakim bridge to me. It looks a lot like the Samuel Beckett Bridge in Dublin. I don't know what the budget of that bridge was, but according to wiki it cost 60 million euros, which sounds like a lot given that the bridge isn't all that long or wide. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.87|172.70.126.87]] 03:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: Perhaps if Randall M. drew too close a likeness to the Zakim Bridge, he feared a visit from officials with lawyers and/or cement shoes. ("Only the paranoid survive ...") It seems, from a quick tour of the Internet, that words like "grandiose and overblown" are easily applied to cable-stayed bridge designs/aesthetics. I wasn't easily able to find information on budget overruns for these bridges, and see the commentator above who pointed out the lower costs overall of cable-stayed ''vs'' suspension bridges. But as a former resident of Greater Boston, I can report the pervasiveness of the Big Dig and its challenges, budgetary and otherwise, in local life and lore. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.22.108|172.68.22.108]] 04:32, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::The cable-stayed bridge is the current darling of artists that accidentally went to engineering school, who are notorious for running over budget and behind schedule. [[User:RegularSizedGuy|RegularSizedGuy]] ([[User talk:RegularSizedGuy|talk]]) 04:40, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: I can see the suggestion of the Beckett bridge, but in my eyes the obvious template would be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmusbrug Rotterdam's Erasmus Bridge] [[User:Nachtvogel|Nachtvogel]] ([[User talk:Nachtvogel|talk]]) 06:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: Could "budget overrun" be a reference to Polybridge and other similar "Bridge Architect" games where player has a very limited budget for building materials? [[Special:Contributions/37.47.135.196|37.47.135.196]] 02:58, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I think the repurposed elevator should be considered a dig at Elon Musks The Boring Company, even though they tunnel rather then bridge
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.182.138|162.158.182.138]] 04:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Added a bunch of explanations [[Special:Contributions/162.158.8.132|162.158.8.132]] 07:31, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The Repurposed Elevator is actually a real thing! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmid_Peoplemover It's not as strange as you think. It's a space effective, but too expensive solution to the problem of not making cramped railway crossroads more cramped. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.172.112|162.158.172.112]] 07:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: I've added it to the list. Feel free to do such changes yourself if you know something that can contribute. --[[Special:Contributions/172.71.183.12|172.71.183.12]] 08:07, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:: The Vizcaya Bridge in Bilbao (Spain) is a good example of elevator bridge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizcaya_Bridge [[Special:Contributions/90.173.49.42|90.173.49.42]] 15:23, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::: That's a Transporter Bridge, which (as someone mentioned below) is a separate thing that's surprisingly not really covered in the comic. It bears some operational similarities to a sideways-elevator, arguably more so than the Peoplemover that combines directions of travel rather than just changes that travel, but the hanging (suspension) element from the (truss-)supported carriage adds in other things that surely could have attracted parody (as a 'real type of bridge, possibly abnormally named) if it was within Randall's radar. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.235.191|82.132.235.191]] 17:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

For the "Google Earth Bridge" remark, [https://www.fastcompany.com/90186315/the-strange-art-of-the-melting-bridges-of-google-earth this article] might work as a citation. [[User:Conster|Conster]] ([[User talk:Conster|talk]]) 07:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: Do we have to single out Google for this? Apple maps did a fantastic job of melting bridges as well... :D [[Special:Contributions/162.158.42.38|162.158.42.38]] 19:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

There seem to be stick figures on each bridge, except for the Arch. Is that on phone? Maybe he's saying nobody uses arch (Linux)? Or does anyone has any other idea as to why? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.128.184|172.69.128.184]] 08:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Is there a reason for the trestle bridge to have a raised deck? They were iconically used for railways, where that would not work. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.110.59|162.158.110.59]] 09:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The jump in particular feels a lot like polybridge and I love it [[Special:Contributions/172.71.167.160|172.71.167.160]] 11:27, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Alas, no love (or even any acknowlegement) for the {{w|Transporter bridge}}, it seams... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.165|172.69.79.165]] 16:11, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I live in Montreal, and the "budget overrun" immediately made me think of our Olympic Stadium, which we affectionately call "The Big Owe".
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.10|162.158.126.10]] 20:38, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The closest thing to a "repurposed elevator" I know is a bus in Tirana in Albania, which accidentaly crashed off the road and over a river, and served as ab impromptu bridge for a while.

Suspended arch - tied-arch vs. through arch: The "suspended arch" bridge may or may not be a tied-arch bridge. Something has to stop the ends of the arch sliding outwards when there's a large load in the middle, but you can't tell what that something is from the image.

If that something is the bridge deck, being connected to the ends of the arch and under tension, than it's a tied-arch bridge (the deck ties the ends of the arch together). If that something is the arch foundations, and the deck is not under tension, then it's not a tied-arch bridge; it's just a simple through-arch bridge.

For more info on (real) bridges, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX_zkaK5PaI| Practical Engineering] --DW [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.69|162.158.187.69]] 13:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

'Drawbridge' to me means a defensive bridge that crosses the moat of a castle, and can be pulled up when defending it. See, eg., my favourite castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodiam_Castle [[Special:Contributions/172.69.224.115|172.69.224.115]] 15:05, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:Agreed. What they have there is a lift bridge. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 15:55, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::Well, as an abbreviated version of the {{w|vertical-lift bridge}}, I might quibble about even ''that'' descriptor. (But "bascule" became current, in-description, for which the main complaint might be only that it's a less known and more obscure name.) [[Special:Contributions/82.132.234.190|82.132.234.190]] 13:18, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

This is great timing, I was just today made aware of what I initially assumed to be a poor translation of "draw bridge", before realizing it was indeed its own distinct thing! It was [https://www.leonardodavincisinventions.com/civil-engineering-inventions/leonardo-da-vinci-swing-bridge/ Leonardo Da Vinci's Pivot Bridge] [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 19:04, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I think "budget overrun" is a reference to [[w: Santiago Calatrava]] a starchitect who has a singular style and whose stuff is known for ridiculously high costs {{unsigned ip|2001:a62:1448:d002:f1c9:dbd4:e909:c67e|10:59, 27 July 2025}}
:(The link doesn't work, how you wrote it. I know how you should have written it, that way, but can I introduce you to using the template {{template|w}}? That would display as {{w|Santiago Calatrava}} and is the dominant local method of wikipedia linking.)
:I'm not sure that Santiago Calatrava is particularly unique (or outstandingly notable, in Randall's world) to make it an actual reference specifically to them. However, still nice to know about something new and random (yet relevant, of course), so I think we should thank you for your information in a more general way. [[Special:Contributions/92.23.2.228|92.23.2.228]] 19:54, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

I think that "Repurposed Elevator" is a reference to Wellington Station on the Boston Subway, where there was a vertical people mover ("elevator") over the yard but was later repurposed into a walkway (bridge). [[Special:Contributions/173.48.115.181|173.48.115.181]] 11:09, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
:Added--[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 12:55, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
::Though, really, it's the exact ''opposite'' of this illustrated case. But I don't feel like going into that in a practical edit. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.246.173|82.132.246.173]] 13:06, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
:::The page will remain incorrect then. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:42, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
::::That's up to everyone else, once they realise that effectively one's a case of adding an elevator to an unbridged gap to create an 'elevator bridge', of sorts, and the other was a case of removing an elevator from an actual elevator bridge to leave just a bridge. But I don't want to remove the information, or greatly expand it to detail its oppositeness and counter-context. And I don't say that there's no inspirational link (is Randall sufficiently familiar with that location?), just that it's not so obvious a straight reference. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.236.41|82.132.236.41]] 01:13, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Talk:3097: Bridge Types

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For budget overrun, see olympic stadium of Montreal, Quebec, Canada. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.202|162.158.126.202]] 01:23, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Very disappointed there's no bridge card game reference, but I guess that's not one of Randall's types of nerdiness :( [[Special:Contributions/172.71.254.203|172.71.254.203]] 01:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I would like to note that cable stayed bridges, budget overrun here, are much cheaper than equivalent suspension bridges. It because they use less materials and can be built faster meaning less labor. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.51|172.69.58.51]] 01:50, 3 June 2025‎
:Tru dat in general, but I think that this is a reference to the {{w|Leonard_P._Zakim_Bunker_Hill_Memorial_Bridge|Zakim Bridge}} in downtown Boston, part of the {{w|Big_Dig|"Big Dig"}} project that became notorious for its budget overruns and related shenanigans. Given that Randall M. lives in Boston, that makes this panel something of an inside joke. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.147.224|172.71.147.224]] 03:15, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The [[wikipedia:St. Louis Arch|St. Louis Arch]] is a repurposed-elevator-suspended-arch-but-without-the-base-and-wires bridge if you squint hard enough. The elevator is also fun. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.67.214|172.69.67.214]] 01:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Nothing about a a [[wikipedia:Bridge circuit|bridge circuit]] or these [[Wikipedia:Bridges (disambiguation)|many]] [[wikipedia:other|other]] bridges either. Sigh. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.67.214|172.69.67.214]] 01:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:And where, oh where, are Lloyd, Beau, Jeff, and Jordan? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.84|162.158.41.84]] 03:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The L'Engle is a take off on a Wrinkle in time? But this one is in space? -- [[User:162.158.91.124|162.158.91.124]] ([[User talk:162.158.91.124|talk]]) 02:26, 3 June 2025‎ ''(please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~</nowiki>~~)''
:There's some space-warping in L'Engle's books. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.174.63|162.158.174.63]] 02:44, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The "budget overrun" bridge doesn't really look like the Zakim bridge to me. It looks a lot like the Samuel Beckett Bridge in Dublin. I don't know what the budget of that bridge was, but according to wiki it cost 60 million euros, which sounds like a lot given that the bridge isn't all that long or wide. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.87|172.70.126.87]] 03:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: Perhaps if Randall M. drew too close a likeness to the Zakim Bridge, he feared a visit from officials with lawyers and/or cement shoes. ("Only the paranoid survive ...") It seems, from a quick tour of the Internet, that words like "grandiose and overblown" are easily applied to cable-stayed bridge designs/aesthetics. I wasn't easily able to find information on budget overruns for these bridges, and see the commentator above who pointed out the lower costs overall of cable-stayed ''vs'' suspension bridges. But as a former resident of Greater Boston, I can report the pervasiveness of the Big Dig and its challenges, budgetary and otherwise, in local life and lore. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.22.108|172.68.22.108]] 04:32, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::The cable-stayed bridge is the current darling of artists that accidentally went to engineering school, who are notorious for running over budget and behind schedule. [[User:RegularSizedGuy|RegularSizedGuy]] ([[User talk:RegularSizedGuy|talk]]) 04:40, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: I can see the suggestion of the Beckett bridge, but in my eyes the obvious template would be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmusbrug Rotterdam's Erasmus Bridge] [[User:Nachtvogel|Nachtvogel]] ([[User talk:Nachtvogel|talk]]) 06:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: Could "budget overrun" be a reference to Polybridge and other similar "Bridge Architect" games where player has a very limited budget for building materials? [[Special:Contributions/37.47.135.196|37.47.135.196]] 02:58, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I think the repurposed elevator should be considered a dig at Elon Musks The Boring Company, even though they tunnel rather then bridge
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.182.138|162.158.182.138]] 04:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Added a bunch of explanations [[Special:Contributions/162.158.8.132|162.158.8.132]] 07:31, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The Repurposed Elevator is actually a real thing! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmid_Peoplemover It's not as strange as you think. It's a space effective, but too expensive solution to the problem of not making cramped railway crossroads more cramped. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.172.112|162.158.172.112]] 07:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: I've added it to the list. Feel free to do such changes yourself if you know something that can contribute. --[[Special:Contributions/172.71.183.12|172.71.183.12]] 08:07, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:: The Vizcaya Bridge in Bilbao (Spain) is a good example of elevator bridge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizcaya_Bridge [[Special:Contributions/90.173.49.42|90.173.49.42]] 15:23, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::: That's a Transporter Bridge, which (as someone mentioned below) is a separate thing that's surprisingly not really covered in the comic. It bears some operational similarities to a sideways-elevator, arguably more so than the Peoplemover that combines directions of travel rather than just changes that travel, but the hanging (suspension) element from the (truss-)supported carriage adds in other things that surely could have attracted parody (as a 'real type of bridge, possibly abnormally named) if it was within Randall's radar. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.235.191|82.132.235.191]] 17:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

For the "Google Earth Bridge" remark, [https://www.fastcompany.com/90186315/the-strange-art-of-the-melting-bridges-of-google-earth this article] might work as a citation. [[User:Conster|Conster]] ([[User talk:Conster|talk]]) 07:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
: Do we have to single out Google for this? Apple maps did a fantastic job of melting bridges as well... :D [[Special:Contributions/162.158.42.38|162.158.42.38]] 19:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

There seem to be stick figures on each bridge, except for the Arch. Is that on phone? Maybe he's saying nobody uses arch (Linux)? Or does anyone has any other idea as to why? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.128.184|172.69.128.184]] 08:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Is there a reason for the trestle bridge to have a raised deck? They were iconically used for railways, where that would not work. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.110.59|162.158.110.59]] 09:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The jump in particular feels a lot like polybridge and I love it [[Special:Contributions/172.71.167.160|172.71.167.160]] 11:27, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Alas, no love (or even any acknowlegement) for the {{w|Transporter bridge}}, it seams... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.165|172.69.79.165]] 16:11, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I live in Montreal, and the "budget overrun" immediately made me think of our Olympic Stadium, which we affectionately call "The Big Owe".
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.10|162.158.126.10]] 20:38, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

The closest thing to a "repurposed elevator" I know is a bus in Tirana in Albania, which accidentaly crashed off the road and over a river, and served as ab impromptu bridge for a while.

Suspended arch - tied-arch vs. through arch: The "suspended arch" bridge may or may not be a tied-arch bridge. Something has to stop the ends of the arch sliding outwards when there's a large load in the middle, but you can't tell what that something is from the image.

If that something is the bridge deck, being connected to the ends of the arch and under tension, than it's a tied-arch bridge (the deck ties the ends of the arch together). If that something is the arch foundations, and the deck is not under tension, then it's not a tied-arch bridge; it's just a simple through-arch bridge.

For more info on (real) bridges, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX_zkaK5PaI| Practical Engineering] --DW [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.69|162.158.187.69]] 13:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

'Drawbridge' to me means a defensive bridge that crosses the moat of a castle, and can be pulled up when defending it. See, eg., my favourite castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodiam_Castle [[Special:Contributions/172.69.224.115|172.69.224.115]] 15:05, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:Agreed. What they have there is a lift bridge. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 15:55, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::Well, as an abbreviated version of the {{w|vertical-lift bridge}}, I might quibble about even ''that'' descriptor. (But "bascule" became current, in-description, for which the main complaint might be only that it's a less known and more obscure name.) [[Special:Contributions/82.132.234.190|82.132.234.190]] 13:18, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

This is great timing, I was just today made aware of what I initially assumed to be a poor translation of "draw bridge", before realizing it was indeed its own distinct thing! It was [https://www.leonardodavincisinventions.com/civil-engineering-inventions/leonardo-da-vinci-swing-bridge/ Leonardo Da Vinci's Pivot Bridge] [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 19:04, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

I think "budget overrun" is a reference to [[w: Santiago Calatrava]] a starchitect who has a singular style and whose stuff is known for ridiculously high costs {{unsigned ip|2001:a62:1448:d002:f1c9:dbd4:e909:c67e|10:59, 27 July 2025}}
:(The link doesn't work, how you wrote it. I know how you should have written it, that way, but can I introduce you to using the template {{template|w}}? That would display as {{w|Santiago Calatrava}} and is the dominant local method of wikipedia linking.)
:I'm not sure that Santiago Calatrava is particularly unique (or outstandingly notable, in Randall's world) to make it an actual reference specifically to them. However, still nice to know about something new and random (yet relevant, of course), so I think we should thank you for your information in a more general way. [[Special:Contributions/92.23.2.228|92.23.2.228]] 19:54, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

I think that "Repurposed Elevator" is a reference to Wellington Station on the Boston Subway, where there was a vertical people mover ("elevator") over the yard but was later repurposed into a walkway (bridge). [[Special:Contributions/173.48.115.181|173.48.115.181]] 11:09, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
:Added--[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 12:55, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
::Though, really, it's the exact ''opposite'' of this illustrated case. But I don't feel like going into that in a practical edit. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.246.173|82.132.246.173]] 13:06, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
:::The page will remain incorrect then. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:42, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
::::That's up to everyone else, once they realise that effectively one's a case of adding an elevator to an unbridged gap to create an 'elevator bridge', of sorts, and the other was a case of removing an elevator from an actual elevator bridge to leave just a bridge. But I don't want to remove the information, though greatly expand it to detail its oppositeness and counter-context. And I don't say that there's no inspirational link (is Randall sufficiently familiar with that location?), just that it's not so obvious a straight reference. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.236.41|82.132.236.41]] 01:13, 12 August 2025 (UTC)