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1592: Overthinking

2020-12-14T19:21:08Z

Duraludon: /* Trivia */

{{comic
| number = 1592
| date = October 19, 2015
| title = Overthinking
| image = overthinking.png
| titletext = On the other hand, it took us embarrassingly long to clue in to the lung cancer/cigarette thing, so I guess the real lesson is "figuring out which ideas are true is hard."
}}

==Explanation==
In this comic, [[Cueball]] is telling [[White Hat]] about several recent scientific studies he read that appear to contradict the results of either prior studies whose results have stood for a long time or are long-held misconceptions. The studies can be reviewed on-line via their {{w|Digital Object Identifier}} (DOI) in [[Randall|Randall's]] citations.

In the first, Cueball mentions a study that showed that while water is good for you, you only need to drink when you are thirsty. This appears to be a reference to common misconceptions that we should drink a certain set quantity of water per day (oft-cited as eight cups - see [[715: Numbers]]) and may even be referencing the fact that drinking too much water (well more than the standard 8 cups, for most people) can lead to hyponatremia (lack of salt in the body).

Another recent study showed that prolonged sitting is not bad for you which contradicts the long-held belief that sitting at a desk all day is unhealthy and that standing or lying down are healthier. The study showed that the position is not particularly relevant if there is no physical activity in any of the positions.

Finally, Cueball references a study that pre-industrial humans have similar sleep patterns to our own, which would appear to contradict a belief that modern technology has disrupted our sleep patterns (which is likely tied to health concerns around our modern sleep habits).

Cueball's conclusion is that humanity may be over-thinking things in trying to find problems in the way we live our everyday lives. In the last panel, White Hat seems to be attempting to start an inquiry into what everyday modern phenomenon has caused us to over-think things. This is obviously a self-referencing example of the types of claims Cueball is debunking in the first three panels. Cueball responds by suggesting that humanity's over-thinking is likely not a recent phenomenon but probably dates back to the stone age. This could also be viewed as an argument that over-thinking is not all bad, the wheel would certainly be a good result of over-thinking.

In the title text, Cueball gives a counter-example to his own argument, suggesting that it took far longer for us to realize the negative health connotations of smoking than it should have. Suggesting instead it's not about overthinking or underthinking-it's just that people make mistakes about what is important. (The link between cigarettes and lung cancer has been known for longer than most people realize, possibly coming as early as the 1940s.)

===Links to studies referenced===
*Panel 1: [https://dx.doi.org/10.1097/JSM.0000000000000221 DOI:10.1097/JSM.0000000000000221]: [http://journals.lww.com/cjsportsmed/Fulltext/2015/07000/Statement_of_the_Third_International.2.aspx "Statement of the Third International Exercise-Associated Hyponatremia Consensus Development Conference, Carlsbad, California, 2015"], ''Clinical Journal of Sport Medicine'', July 2015, Retrieved 19-Oct-2015
*Panel 2: [https://dx.doi.org/10.1093/ije/dyv191 DOI:10.1093/ije/dyv191]: [http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/10/09/ije.dyv191 "Associations of sitting behaviours with all-cause mortality over a 16-year follow-up: the Whitehall II study"], ''International Journal of Epidemiology'', 27-Aug-2015, Retrieved 19-Oct-2015
*Panel 3: [https://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2015.09.046 DOI:10.1016/j.cub.2015.09.046]: [http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)01157-4 "Natural Sleep and Its Seasonal Variations in Three Pre-industrial Societies"], ''Current Biology'', 15-Oct-2015, Retrieved 19-Oct-2015

==Transcript==
:[Cueball and White Hat are walking together. The references are at the bottom of the three first panels.]
:Cueball: I found a study* that said water is good for you, but you should just drink it when you feel thirsty and not go overboard.
:White Hat: Uh huh?
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>DOI:10.1097/JSM.0000000000000221

:[More walking with Cueball lifting his hand in front of him.]
:Cueball: Another study* found that prolonged sitting isn't necessarily bad for you, as long as you're also getting exercise.
:White Hat: Okay...
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>DOI:10.1093/ije/dyv191

:[A border-less panel, but still walking.]
:Cueball: Now a study* claims that humans in pre-industrial societies stay up late and sleep 6 or 7 hours a night, just like most people today.
:White Hat: Huh.
:White Hat: So what you're saying is...
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>DOI:10.1016/j.cub.2015.09.046

:[Zoom out showing Cueball and White Hat walking in silhouette.]
:Cueball: Maybe we're overthinking it.
:White Hat: But what ''caused'' our modern epidemic of overthinking?! Plumbing? Or is it email?
:Cueball: Modern? I bet the wheel was invented by someone overthinking "pushing."

==Trivia==
*In the [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/archive/0/0d/20151019153329!overthinking.png original version] of the comic, the three DOIs were shifted one panel, so the reference in the first panel belonged to the second panel, the second belonged to the third panel and the reference in the third panel belonged to the first. This was corrected within a few hours.

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Talk:2387: Blair Witch

2020-11-20T02:04:04Z

Duraludon:

The whole Blair Witch legend didn't exist before the movie. This doesn't seem too evident from the explanation, which is written as though there was a historical basis for it.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.245|172.69.33.245]] 03:23, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

https://www.google.com/search?q=single+sex+lizard+species&oq=single+sex+lizard+species

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail
Not the result that I can't remember right now, a tropical location? Has (moving to had) an all female lizard species.
SDT [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.46|162.158.75.46]] 03:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Have you considered the possibility that the Blair Witch, if female, could be bred with human males? They may not need Blair Witch males to reproduce. I seem to remember that some parthenogenic lizards need to have sex with a male of a different species to reproduce. The male sperm does not contribute to the genome of the offspring but is required to trigger necessary hormonal, etc. changes. I could not find a reference to this. (~Unsigned?~)
:It's a bit sparse, but mentioned in here anyway: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremblay%27s_salamander (meanwhile, I was going to mention either the 'Jurassic Park' thing or the Komodo Dragon as an example (but WZ-parthonegenisis of isolated females would produce just male offspring). Maybe they have sequential hermaphrodism, probably protogynous given what we might consider the active population's active gender-bias. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.86|108.162.229.86]] 06:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Why is the pointer called a baton? If it's not called a pointer, why not call it a wand?[[User:J Milstein|J Milstein]] ([[User talk:J Milstein|talk]]) 04:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
:I've never seen anyone call it a "baton" before this analysis. Maybe it's a foreign thing? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.214|172.68.65.214]] 09:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
::I would associate "baton" primarily with music conductors (but also relay races) where English has adopted the French/similar word for "stick". Meanwhile "pointer" ''might'' be right, but in my head relates more to a mouse-cursor these days, if there's a projected image. "Stick" itself seems to fit (there's much symmantic overlap, given it's just a different linguistic root of the same broad concept) but with not enough context could easily be a twig, thumb-drive, etc, so not entirely sure if it's the ideal replacement. English is complex like that, and I don't think there's a simple name that's universally better than any other. An imperfect search on an online store under office items gives "telescopic pointing stick" or (rarer) "...rod", from which we ''might'' drop the telescopic aspect given that's not an obvious/relevent detail above. But it was interesting to ponder... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.7|162.158.158.7]] 17:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure they're called "pointers". And in modern times the physical sticks have been replaced with small laser devices, and they're called "laser pointers". [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 17:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
:"Baton" is the French (and perhaps other languages) word for "wand," although it can also refer to the musical conducting stick. [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 02:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Can we keep the captured specimens in a brothel and ask them to enchant themselves to be irresistible to men? That way the conservation project can pay for itself, and it would merely be whoroing instead of harrowing. I'll show myself out. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.142.195|172.68.142.195]] 19:01, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk:2386: Ten Years

2020-11-18T20:13:31Z

Duraludon:

There is little or nothing I can add to this except to say that there is at least one good thing that has happened in 2020. Congratulations, Randall and Megan.[[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 04:14, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:I'm not sure why would counting this non-event as something good happening in 2020 made more sense than counting, for example, the 75th anniversary of end of World War II which happened in September. Regardless, congratulations, Randall and Megan. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 16:44, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Its been 3 Years since 7 Years?! Damn, time sure does fly fast. Congratulations to Randall and his wife!

I was so confused when I read the comic-until I realized it was based on a true story. This is very sweet of Randall to dedicate this comic to his wife's progress. -neverdroptop 04:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Congrats Megan and Randall! - skotos

I'm not crying, _you're_ crying. Such a heartbreakingly gorgeous comic, thanks Randall. Congratulations to you both. - Excession_OCP
:Same; that second-to-last panel was so sweet! [[User:Gir|-- //gir.st/]] ([[User talk:Gir|talk]]) 13:19, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:Also not crying, it's only something in my both eyes. Congrats to both of you!!! --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.104|108.162.210.104]] 15:24, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

This is lovely. Congratulations on 10yrs cancer free. May your 15 year traditional anniversary gift not be cursed. [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

The start of this topic is here : [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/818:_Illness]. The following posts are very touching too. Thanks Randall and Megan. [[User:JulienG|JulienG]] ([[User talk:JulienG|talk]]) 14:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations Megan and Randall! Many more years! --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.209|173.245.52.209]] 14:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Damn, a new pandemic has arrived: it affects xkcd readers exclusively and adds little salty droplets near their eyes!

Why does the transcript refer to her as just "Randall's fiancée?" We know her name is Megan.
Regardless, happy 10 years, and may you have many, many more. [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 15:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:Randall's wife is not called Megan, Megan is just something we call her, because he used that name a few times in the early comics for that character. In this comic Megan depicted Randall's wife, and thus it is not wrong to call her that in the transcript. Just like we call Cueball Randall in this comic, but not generally. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:42, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
::Has Randall ever publicly shared his wife's name? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.184|172.69.34.184]] 19:04, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:::I Googled "randall munroe wife" and the first result is an article [https://laughingsquid.com/xkcd-seven-years/#:~:text=In%20November%202010%2C%20Megan%2C%20then,of%20stage%20III%20breast%20cancer.] on laughingsquid.com about [[Seven Years]] which calls her Megan, but Randall's Wikipedia page doesn't mention her name at all. I think that's why I was confused. [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 20:13, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

This one just makes me so, so happy. I was scared that it would be a sad comic, but was overjoyed upon reading. --[[User:Char_Latte49|Char_Latte49]]

The thing that struck me was what he said about "not and act of grace, but something I desperately wanted to do". And I thought, hm, isn't it both, and isn't that the best kind of grace? Grace may be undeserved, but it doesn't have to be grudgingly given :). --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.89|162.158.74.89]] 17:27, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:Grace is something you can give to someone if you want/have to make the other person feel better (in whatever degree and whatever "feel" may mean in context). It is thus per definition not an act of grace if your motive is just your own feelings ("''I'' desperately wanted to do"). That his soon-to-be wife felt better with that act (otherwise she most likely wouldn't have agreed) is just some lucky coincidence. That sounds somewhat cold and isn't meant as such. My point is that something may look like an act of grace but isn't one. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 11:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I have made a new series category, [[:Category:X Years]], for these three comics. Should in principle have been done after number two, but better late than never. A beautiful series. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:03, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I adore that panel of them sitting by the river. I wish Randall would do "serious" art like that more often, he's clearly got talent. --[[User:Youforgotthisthing|Youforgotthisthing]] ([[User talk:Youforgotthisthing|talk]]) 19:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk:2386: Ten Years

2020-11-18T20:10:20Z

Duraludon:

There is little or nothing I can add to this except to say that there is at least one good thing that has happened in 2020. Congratulations, Randall and Megan.[[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 04:14, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:I'm not sure why would counting this non-event as something good happening in 2020 made more sense than counting, for example, the 75th anniversary of end of World War II which happened in September. Regardless, congratulations, Randall and Megan. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 16:44, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Its been 3 Years since 7 Years?! Damn, time sure does fly fast. Congratulations to Randall and his wife!

I was so confused when I read the comic-until I realized it was based on a true story. This is very sweet of Randall to dedicate this comic to his wife's progress. -neverdroptop 04:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Congrats Megan and Randall! - skotos

I'm not crying, _you're_ crying. Such a heartbreakingly gorgeous comic, thanks Randall. Congratulations to you both. - Excession_OCP
:Same; that second-to-last panel was so sweet! [[User:Gir|-- //gir.st/]] ([[User talk:Gir|talk]]) 13:19, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:Also not crying, it's only something in my both eyes. Congrats to both of you!!! --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.104|108.162.210.104]] 15:24, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

This is lovely. Congratulations on 10yrs cancer free. May your 15 year traditional anniversary gift not be cursed. [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 12:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

The start of this topic is here : [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/818:_Illness]. The following posts are very touching too. Thanks Randall and Megan. [[User:JulienG|JulienG]] ([[User talk:JulienG|talk]]) 14:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations Megan and Randall! Many more years! --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.209|173.245.52.209]] 14:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Damn, a new pandemic has arrived: it affects xkcd readers exclusively and adds little salty droplets near their eyes!

Why does the transcript refer to her as just "Randall's fiancée?" We know her name is Megan.
Regardless, happy 10 years, and may you have many, many more. [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 15:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:Randall's wife is not called Megan, Megan is just something we call her, because he used that name a few times in the early comics for that character. In this comic Megan depicted Randall's wife, and thus it is not wrong to call her that in the transcript. Just like we call Cueball Randall in this comic, but not generally. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:42, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
::Has Randall ever publicly shared his wife's name? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.184|172.69.34.184]] 19:04, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:::I Googled "randall munroe wife" and the first result is an [[https://laughingsquid.com/xkcd-seven-years/#:~:text=In%20November%202010%2C%20Megan%2C%20then,of%20stage%20III%20breast%20cancer.|article]] on laughingsquid.com about [[https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1928:_Seven_Years|Seven Years]] which calls her Megan, but Randall's Wikipedia page doesn't mention her name at all. I think that's why I was confused. [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 20:10, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

This one just makes me so, so happy. I was scared that it would be a sad comic, but was overjoyed upon reading. --[[User:Char_Latte49|Char_Latte49]]

The thing that struck me was what he said about "not and act of grace, but something I desperately wanted to do". And I thought, hm, isn't it both, and isn't that the best kind of grace? Grace may be undeserved, but it doesn't have to be grudgingly given :). --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.89|162.158.74.89]] 17:27, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:Grace is something you can give to someone if you want/have to make the other person feel better (in whatever degree and whatever "feel" may mean in context). It is thus per definition not an act of grace if your motive is just your own feelings ("''I'' desperately wanted to do"). That his soon-to-be wife felt better with that act (otherwise she most likely wouldn't have agreed) is just some lucky coincidence. That sounds somewhat cold and isn't meant as such. My point is that something may look like an act of grace but isn't one. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 11:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I have made a new series category, [[:Category:X Years]], for these three comics. Should in principle have been done after number two, but better late than never. A beautiful series. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:03, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I adore that panel of them sitting by the river. I wish Randall would do "serious" art like that more often, he's clearly got talent. --[[User:Youforgotthisthing|Youforgotthisthing]] ([[User talk:Youforgotthisthing|talk]]) 19:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk:2386: Ten Years

2020-11-17T15:51:18Z

Duraludon:

Talk:2379: Probability Comparisons

2020-11-01T00:59:41Z

Duraludon:

(Sidenote: for the 88% entry in the comic, "outside" is misspelled as "outide" as of the current moment.)

What's the best way to organize the explanations for this comic, when they begin to be added? By the order they're listed in the comic? That seems inefficient, since presumably many of the entries can be answered as a group by a single explanation. If they should be grouped, how should they be grouped? --[[User:V2Blast|V2Blast]] ([[User talk:V2Blast|talk]]) 03:59, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
: The table I added is sortable. You could add a "type" column of some sort and users could sort by that if they want. [[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] ([[User talk:Captain Video|talk]]) 04:42, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
There's a discrepancy between the version here and the current official version. Here, 0.2% has the red M&Ms thing paired with the odds of drawing a flush in poker ("you draw 5 cards and they're all the same suit"); the official version has it with "You draw 2 random Scrabble tiles and get M and M." Here, the latter piece of information is at 0.1%, and there the 0.1% item is "Three randomly chosen people are all left-handed." I'm guessing we have an old version of the page? [[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] ([[User talk:Captain Video|talk]]) 06:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
: Updated. [[User:Natg19|Natg19]] ([[User talk:Natg19|talk]]) 08:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Wouldn't the Lord of the rings one be, technically, 67%, since 66.6666666... rounds to 67%, not 66? Also, we should really add a better comment interface. [[User:BarnZarn|BarnZarn]] ([[User talk:BarnZarn|talk]]) 06:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
: The same goes for the next entry, imho, since LOTR-one is 2 out of 3 movies and the dice rolls are 4 out of 6, which comes down to the exact same percentage.

Hooray, xkcd is finally xkcd again! For the last fifty strips it’s basically been lighter SMBC. Yay Randall!

Also, if anyone wants to read something very English and very horrible, https://endicottstudio.typepad.com/poetrylist/the-white-road-by-neil-gaiman.html. [[User:Lightcaller|Lightcaller]] ([[User talk:Lightcaller|talk]]) 07:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

I have to think the second to last is off. First, what is meant by "just been"? Minutes, hours, days? Second, does anyone know the correct number of 10-digit phone numbers that are answered by people named "Barack Obama" (as pronounced, not spelled)? I remember that Obama had a cell, and including the phones in his office and his bedroom (separate #'s), so during his term, that's at least 3. [[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] ([[User talk:SDSpivey|talk]]) 15:50, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

guys i have never edited the transcript section im scared. — [[User:Sqrt-1|The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭]] [[User talk:Sqrt-1|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|stalk]] 16:36, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
:This comic has so many American jokes and brands I can't understand this... I found this from [https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1263600/probability-of-picking-up-two-mms-of-same-color-randomly mathematics stack exchange] and that helped me understand what this M&M stuff is... — [[User:Sqrt-1|The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭]] [[User talk:Sqrt-1|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|stalk]] 16:39, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
::Alright, I if the only colours are red green and blue how can there be fucking yellow or brown godammit I give up someone else do this shit AHAHAHA — [[User:Sqrt-1|The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭]] [[User talk:Sqrt-1|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|stalk]] 16:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
:::There are currently 6 colors, blue, red, brown, yellow, green and orange. Each comes in different ratios, for some reason. If there were all the same ratio, then getting 2 that are both red would be 1/36=2.777%, so red is below average. [[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] ([[User talk:SDSpivey|talk]]) 00:58, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't understand the "You share a birthday with two US Senators" as being 4%. If there is only one pair of U.S. Senators with the same birthday, then your chance of sharing a birthday with them would be 1/365 (~0.27%). --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.143|162.158.74.143]] 20:25, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
:I'm not certain of the math offhand, but it is the odds of randomly sharing a birthday with 2 out of 100 Senators. Not that just a pair shares one with you. Although all this birthday talk ignores Feb 29 births. [[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] ([[User talk:SDSpivey|talk]]) 00:58, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Um... in the Trivia section, someone wrote:

"the 67% probability of rolling at least a 3 with a D6 is correct. "At least a 3" means a 3, 4, 5, or 6."

Four out of six is ~67%, right? Please don't tell me I've forgotten basic maths. I'm going to delete that section, but feel free to add it back in if I'm just being an idiot. [[User:BlackHat|BlackHat]] ([[User talk:BlackHat|talk]]) 22:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The explanation for the Social Security Number is wrong- it should be that there are ten possible digits for each of the four digits you're trying to guess. The number of digits in a SSN doesn't matter since the comic specifies you're only guessing the last four. [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 00:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

== 2/3 = both 66% and 67%? ==

I get picking either 66% or 67% as a rounding for 2/3 but to have one of each?? Is there any actual reason for this?

<blockquote>66% A randomly chosen movie from the main Lord of the Rings trilogy has “of the” in the title twice 67% You roll at least a 3 with a d6</blockquote>

[[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.152|162.158.79.152]] 21:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Talk:2377: xkcd Phone 12

2020-10-27T17:34:10Z

Duraludon:

Is there any way to install the Vengaboys feature on my own phone? It's pure genius
::(Above unsigned comment was clearly being replied to by the following. Tidying up by moving my own signed comment about coatings.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.171|162.158.158.171]] 12:39, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:Perhaps by taking data from infrared sensors and microphones, an app could automatically start the song? Might have some interesting copyright issues, tho idk how those things work … [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.124|162.158.63.124]] 23:57, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

If it's coated for easy swallowing, perhaps it's actually a tablet... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.54|162.158.155.54]] 22:50, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
:Now officially entered in Explanation. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.171|162.158.158.171]] 12:39, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
::This could be a reference to the recently-released Animaniacs reboot trailer, where the Warner kids are shown a tablet (probably an iPad) that looks like it's on Wikipedia and told that it contains the sum of all human knowledge. Yakko then takes the tablet, puts it in a comically large glass of water, swallows the water and tablet in one gulp, and then seems to have absorbed all of the knowledge. [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 17:34, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Disabling the screen is a real feature (though it's called screen curtain on iOS https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201443). {{unsigned|108.162.241.70}}

The 600LB magnet doesn't weigh 600 pounds, it's strong enough to hold 600 pounds. And if you used the interlocking feature, and it doesn't explode, you'd never be able to pull the phones apart. [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 01:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:I just looked up 600 lb fishing magnets on Amazon.com. They weigh a couple lbs. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 05:05, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:From what we've learned about xkcd-Phones so far, I wouldn't be surprised if the magnet actually weights 600 lb. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.91|108.162.229.91]] 11:23, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

I would actually buy something with Game Boy Printer compatibility. [[User:Unpopular Opinions|Goodbye, world!]] ([[User talk:Unpopular Opinions|talk]]) 03:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

John MacAfee fled Belize (and the Belize police) when he was wanted for questioning as a “person of interest” in the murder of Gregory Viant Faull. I suspect that that is part of why Randal posits an attack from John MacAfee (and defense from Peter Norton, who (unlike John) hasn’t completely lost his mind). I think he is also on the run from Spanish authorities for tax evasion.[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.136|173.245.54.136]] 04:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

:I think there should be some explanation of who these people are. I could assume that they're the founders of the companies of the same name, or look it up, but the explanation should probably mention it. [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 12:44, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

::Isn't it "McAfee", not "MacAfee"? Or is there an unknown menace named MacAfee that we need to be warned about? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.82|162.158.74.82]] 13:30, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Don't many mobile games use shaking as a way to reset or roll the dice? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 05:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:Also Moto phones use shaking to turn on the flashlight. [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 05:19, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

The tactical helium reserve might prove problematic if [https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/9si6r9/postmortem_mri_disables_every_ios_device_in/ the phone uses MEMS for timekeeping].
:(Great link, but unsigned...) Helium's a wonderful substance. Everyone speaks highly of it! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.171|162.158.158.171]] 12:39, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

"Coated for easy swallowing" could be referring to ambiguity between 'tablet (pharmacy)' and 'tablet computer' (which is quite similar to a phone). [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 12:44, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:See comment (nearly) at top of Talk. Also you may have missed the change I made which then momentarily vanished due to someone's overzealous manual reversion but now is [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2377%3A_xkcd_Phone_12&type=revision&diff=200672&oldid=200667 restored]. Enjoy. ;) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.46|162.158.159.46]] 12:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:(I seem to be IP-hopping. I was the "Tweaks and Buffs" author/restorer consistently on 141.*, not the "I'm an idiot" one on 162.* but here in comments I'm appearing as 162.* both before (inc. last night) and after. - Probably something to do with Cloudflare. It's ''always'' something to do with Cloudflare! Any guesses what my IP sign-off will be ''this'' time???) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.102|162.158.155.102]] 13:09, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
::Solution: Make an account, and log in. [[User:OhFFS|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS|talk]]) 16:53, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Possibly, to note, Thermal Paper, as what is used by the Gameboy Printer, has high quantities of BPA. Running gag?
Also, atmospheric helium temporarily makes IPhones not work, due to mems device issues.
https://www.cnet.com/news/iphones-reportedly-malfunctioning-after-helium-exposure/
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.174|162.158.146.174]] 15:24, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

User:Duraludon

2019-11-22T20:05:33Z

Duraludon:

Hello! I'm Duraludon! I like xkcd, Pokémon, and speedrunning! I have a YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS4wXSi5kQwz54BFXpD_apA here]!

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2019-11-22T17:45:13Z

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2019-11-22T17:43:15Z

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2019-11-22T17:42:52Z

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Hello! I'm Duraludon! I like xkcd, Pokémon, and [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS4wXSi5kQwz54BFXpD_apA|speedrunning]!

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2019-11-22T17:42:37Z

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2232: Hotel Room Party

2019-11-22T17:41:40Z

Duraludon: /* Transcript */

{{comic
| number = 2232
| date = November 22, 2019
| title = Hotel Room Party
| image = hotel_room_party.png
| titletext = [proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a MATTRESS SHREDDER. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

It is a common trope that really wild parties in hotel rooms, particularly by rock bands on tour, end up trashing that hotel room as crazy party goers break and spill things. Such parties are widely perceived to be very fun, because they got so out of control. In this comic, [[Cueball]] (together with [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]]) is misunderstanding cause and effect and as he plans to throw a party where you trash a hotel room. Instead of planning a wild party, however, he is planning to calmly and deliberately trash the hotel room by assigning people to do damage. Unlike a real wild party, this is unlikely to be fun. Also, because Cueball is so organized, he is also planning for maintenance and cleaning services to undo the damage. In actual trash-a-hotel-room parties the party goers are so hungover or tired afterward that they don't clean up but leave the damage. This often results in rock bands being charged large amounts of money after the fact for the hotel to do the repairs.

In addition to rock bands, trashing of hotel rooms also featured in the [https://books.google.com/books?id=E6YY2P0C8wkC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=tailhook+chainsaw&source=bl&ots=RCKVl3BThT&sig=ACfU3U2YI2QhSLY2RgXQqLCkl3tc6DO3tA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjttqCfqv7lAhXlJDQIHUsSCEgQ6AEwC3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=tailhook%20chainsaw&f=false Tailhook scandal of 1991], while [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildTeenParty trashing a home during a teenage party] while parents are away, and the mad rush to clean up the damage/evidence before the parents return, is a common trope in teen movies.

Note that Cueball gives instructions to a 'Mike' and a 'Katie' while giving instructions. Since Megan has a specific name, this suggests that either Ponytail or Blondie are named Katie, while either Hairy or White hat are named Mike.

The title text to this comic originally read '[proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"' It is not clear if the 'aa' is a typo, or intentionally representing someone slurring their words because they are drunk or hung over from a party.

==Transcript==
:[ [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[Cueball]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]] are standing in a line. Cueball is raising his left hand with his pointer finger extended and is facing his left. He is also pointing to the right. The other five are facing Cueball.]
:Cueball: OK everyone, let's break into teams.
:Cueball: Katie, get the wire cutters and start disassembling the TV. You two can strip the wallpaper. Mike and I will work on shredding the mattress.
:Cueball: You, start shopping for maintenance and cleaning services. We don't want to leave the staff to deal with this.

:[Caption below the panel]: It's my first time throwing one of those parties where you trash a hotel room and I want to make sure I get it right.

{{comic discussion}}

2232: Hotel Room Party

2019-11-22T17:41:31Z

Duraludon: /* Transcript */

{{comic
| number = 2232
| date = November 22, 2019
| title = Hotel Room Party
| image = hotel_room_party.png
| titletext = [proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a MATTRESS SHREDDER. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

It is a common trope that really wild parties in hotel rooms, particularly by rock bands on tour, end up trashing that hotel room as crazy party goers break and spill things. Such parties are widely perceived to be very fun, because they got so out of control. In this comic, [[Cueball]] (together with [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]]) is misunderstanding cause and effect and as he plans to throw a party where you trash a hotel room. Instead of planning a wild party, however, he is planning to calmly and deliberately trash the hotel room by assigning people to do damage. Unlike a real wild party, this is unlikely to be fun. Also, because Cueball is so organized, he is also planning for maintenance and cleaning services to undo the damage. In actual trash-a-hotel-room parties the party goers are so hungover or tired afterward that they don't clean up but leave the damage. This often results in rock bands being charged large amounts of money after the fact for the hotel to do the repairs.

In addition to rock bands, trashing of hotel rooms also featured in the [https://books.google.com/books?id=E6YY2P0C8wkC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=tailhook+chainsaw&source=bl&ots=RCKVl3BThT&sig=ACfU3U2YI2QhSLY2RgXQqLCkl3tc6DO3tA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjttqCfqv7lAhXlJDQIHUsSCEgQ6AEwC3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=tailhook%20chainsaw&f=false Tailhook scandal of 1991], while [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildTeenParty trashing a home during a teenage party] while parents are away, and the mad rush to clean up the damage/evidence before the parents return, is a common trope in teen movies.

Note that Cueball gives instructions to a 'Mike' and a 'Katie' while giving instructions. Since Megan has a specific name, this suggests that either Ponytail or Blondie are named Katie, while either Hairy or White hat are named Mike.

The title text to this comic originally read '[proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"' It is not clear if the 'aa' is a typo, or intentionally representing someone slurring their words because they are drunk or hung over from a party.

==Transcript==
:\[[[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[Cueball]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]] are standing in a line. Cueball is raising his left hand with his pointer finger extended and is facing his left. He is also pointing to the right. The other five are facing Cueball.]
:Cueball: OK everyone, let's break into teams.
:Cueball: Katie, get the wire cutters and start disassembling the TV. You two can strip the wallpaper. Mike and I will work on shredding the mattress.
:Cueball: You, start shopping for maintenance and cleaning services. We don't want to leave the staff to deal with this.

:[Caption below the panel]: It's my first time throwing one of those parties where you trash a hotel room and I want to make sure I get it right.

{{comic discussion}}

2232: Hotel Room Party

2019-11-22T17:41:14Z

Duraludon: /* Transcript */

2232: Hotel Room Party

2019-11-22T17:41:04Z

Duraludon: /* Transcript */

{{comic
| number = 2232
| date = November 22, 2019
| title = Hotel Room Party
| image = hotel_room_party.png
| titletext = [proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a MATTRESS SHREDDER. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

It is a common trope that really wild parties in hotel rooms, particularly by rock bands on tour, end up trashing that hotel room as crazy party goers break and spill things. Such parties are widely perceived to be very fun, because they got so out of control. In this comic, [[Cueball]] (together with [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]]) is misunderstanding cause and effect and as he plans to throw a party where you trash a hotel room. Instead of planning a wild party, however, he is planning to calmly and deliberately trash the hotel room by assigning people to do damage. Unlike a real wild party, this is unlikely to be fun. Also, because Cueball is so organized, he is also planning for maintenance and cleaning services to undo the damage. In actual trash-a-hotel-room parties the party goers are so hungover or tired afterward that they don't clean up but leave the damage. This often results in rock bands being charged large amounts of money after the fact for the hotel to do the repairs.

In addition to rock bands, trashing of hotel rooms also featured in the [https://books.google.com/books?id=E6YY2P0C8wkC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=tailhook+chainsaw&source=bl&ots=RCKVl3BThT&sig=ACfU3U2YI2QhSLY2RgXQqLCkl3tc6DO3tA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjttqCfqv7lAhXlJDQIHUsSCEgQ6AEwC3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=tailhook%20chainsaw&f=false Tailhook scandal of 1991], while [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildTeenParty trashing a home during a teenage party] while parents are away, and the mad rush to clean up the damage/evidence before the parents return, is a common trope in teen movies.

Note that Cueball gives instructions to a 'Mike' and a 'Katie' while giving instructions. Since Megan has a specific name, this suggests that either Ponytail or Blondie are named Katie, while either Hairy or White hat are named Mike.

The title text to this comic originally read '[proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"' It is not clear if the 'aa' is a typo, or intentionally representing someone slurring their words because they are drunk or hung over from a party.

==Transcript==
:[[[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[Cueball]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]] are standing in a line. Cueball is raising his left hand with his pointer finger extended and is facing his left. He is also pointing to the right. The other five are facing Cueball.]
:Cueball: OK everyone, let's break into teams.
:Cueball: Katie, get the wire cutters and start disassembling the TV. You two can strip the wallpaper. Mike and I will work on shredding the mattress.
:Cueball: You, start shopping for maintenance and cleaning services. We don't want to leave the staff to deal with this.

:[Caption below the panel]: It's my first time throwing one of those parties where you trash a hotel room and I want to make sure I get it right.

{{comic discussion}}

User:Duraludon

2019-11-22T17:38:37Z

Duraludon: Created page with "Hello! I'm Duraludon! I like xkcd, Pokémon, and speedrunning!"

Hello! I'm Duraludon! I like xkcd, Pokémon, and speedrunning!

2232: Hotel Room Party

2019-11-22T17:36:11Z

Duraludon: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 2232
| date = November 22, 2019
| title = Hotel Room Party
| image = hotel_room_party.png
| titletext = [proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a MATTRESS SHREDDER. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

It is a common trope that really wild parties in hotel rooms, particularly by rock bands on tour, end up trashing that hotel room as crazy party goers break and spill things. Such parties are widely perceived to be very fun, because they got so out of control. In this comic, [[Cueball]] (together with [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]]) is misunderstanding cause and effect and as he plans to throw a party where you trash a hotel room. Instead of planning a wild party, however, he is planning to calmly and deliberately trash the hotel room by assigning people to do damage. Unlike a real wild party, this is unlikely to be fun. Also, because Cueball is so organized, he is also planning for maintenance and cleaning services to undo the damage. In actual trash-a-hotel-room parties the party goers are so hungover or tired afterward that they don't clean up but leave the damage. This often results in rock bands being charged large amounts of money after the fact for the hotel to do the repairs.

In addition to rock bands, trashing of hotel rooms also featured in the [https://books.google.com/books?id=E6YY2P0C8wkC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=tailhook+chainsaw&source=bl&ots=RCKVl3BThT&sig=ACfU3U2YI2QhSLY2RgXQqLCkl3tc6DO3tA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjttqCfqv7lAhXlJDQIHUsSCEgQ6AEwC3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=tailhook%20chainsaw&f=false Tailhook scandal of 1991], while [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildTeenParty trashing a home during a teenage party] while parents are away, and the mad rush to clean up the damage/evidence before the parents return, is a common trope in teen movies.

==Transcript==
:([[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[Cueball]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]] are standing in a line. Cueball is raising his left hand with his pointer finger extended and is facing his left. He is also pointing to the right. The other five are facing Cueball.)
:Cueball: OK everyone, let's break into teams.
:Cueball: Katie, get the wire cutters and start disassembling the TV. You two can strip the wallpaper. Mike and I will work on shredding the mattress.
:Cueball: You, start shopping for maintenance and cleaning services. We don't want to leave the staff to deal with this.

:[Caption below the panel]: It's my first time throwing one of those parties where you trash a hotel room and I want to make sure I get it right.

{{comic discussion}}

Talk:2232: Hotel Room Party

2019-11-22T17:34:33Z

Duraludon:

Is the "aa" in the hovertext intentional? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.233|172.68.132.233]] 17:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

::I don't think so [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 17:34, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

2232: Hotel Room Party

2019-11-22T17:33:27Z

Duraludon: /* Transcript */

{{comic
| number = 2232
| date = November 22, 2019
| title = Hotel Room Party
| image = hotel_room_party.png
| titletext = [proudly greeting the hotel manager at the door] "Did I do aa good job?"
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a MATTRESS SHREDDER. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

It is a common trope that really wild parties in hotel rooms, particularly by rock bands on tour, end up trashing that hotel room as crazy party goers break and spill things. Such parties are widely perceived to be very fun, because they got so out of control. In this comic, [[Cueball]] (together with [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]] is misunderstanding cause and effect and as he plans to throw a party where you trash a hotel room. Instead of planning a wild party, however, he is planning to calmly and deliberately trash the hotel room by assigning people to do damage. Unlike a real wild party, this is unlikely to be fun. Also, because Cueball is so organized, he is also planning for maintenance and cleaning services to undo the damage. In actual trash-a-hotel-room parties the party goers are so hungover or tired afterward that they don't clean up but leave the damage. This often results in rock bands being charged large amounts of money after the fact for the hotel to do the repairs.

In addition to rock bands, trashing of hotel rooms also featured in the [https://books.google.com/books?id=E6YY2P0C8wkC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=tailhook+chainsaw&source=bl&ots=RCKVl3BThT&sig=ACfU3U2YI2QhSLY2RgXQqLCkl3tc6DO3tA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjttqCfqv7lAhXlJDQIHUsSCEgQ6AEwC3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=tailhook%20chainsaw&f=false Tailhook scandal of 1991], while [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildTeenParty trashing a home during a teenage party] while parents are away, and the mad rush to clean up the damage/evidence before the parents return, is a common trope in teen movies.

==Transcript==
:([[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], [[Cueball]], [[White Hat]], [[Megan]], and [[Blondie]] are standing in a line. Cueball is raising his left hand with his pointer finger extended and is facing his left. He is also pointing to the right. The other five are facing Cueball.)
:Cueball: OK everyone, let's break into teams.
:Cueball: Katie, get the wire cutters and start disassembling the TV. You two can strip the wallpaper. Mike and I will work on shredding the mattress.
:Cueball: You, start shopping for maintenance and cleaning services. We don't want to leave the staff to deal with this.

:[Caption below the panel]: It's my first time throwing one of those parties where you trash a hotel room and I want to make sure I get it right.

{{comic discussion}}

Talk:2231: The Time Before and After Land

2019-11-21T16:05:47Z

Duraludon:

I believe that the "bees" are paired with words like "for" in the chart to draw similarities to the word "before"? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.34|172.68.54.34]] 21:49, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
:They weren’t though. [[User:Netherin5|“That Guy from the Netherlands”]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 13:08, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Agreed. Has been changed. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.155|172.68.132.155]] 21:59, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

While the chart begins with Big Bang on the left side, I bee-lieve it's a history of our solar system, not the universe. When Rocky Planets formed is not a single specific point in time across the entire universe, and we have no idea if bees or thyme even exist beyond our planet. [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 23:12, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
: Not quite. The Earth formed with the rest of the solar system. And since "Rocky planets form" is shown earlier, it's presumably refers to rocky planets in the ''universe'' -- in ''other'', older star systems, rather than our own. --[[User:Aaron of Mpls|Aaron of Mpls]] ([[User talk:Aaron of Mpls|talk]])

As of this comment, this page is the first page to pop up when typing in the phrase "The Time for Beeland".
[[Special:Contributions/172.69.90.16|172.69.90.16]] 23:51, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

What's missing is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQY7BusJNU Time after Thyme] [[User:Capncanuck|Capncanuck]] ([[User talk:Capncanuck|talk]]) 00:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
:And big missed opportunity for "Four bees land on thyme" [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.226|162.158.78.226]] 05:16, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

The Big Bang of course has two bees in it.

I accidentally deleted the "incomplete explanation" tag after completing the transcript. Sorry about that, I'm new to wiki editing :( [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 16:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

2231: The Time Before and After Land

2019-11-21T16:03:34Z

Duraludon: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 2231
| date = November 20, 2019
| title = the Time Before And After Land
| image = the_time_before_and_after_land.png
| titletext = According to Google, "the time for Beeland" is apparently whenever you're looking for delicious honey in Spillimacheen, British Columbia or a hexagonal chalet in the Savinja valley in Slovenia.
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete explanation|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

This comic is wordplay on ''{{w|The Land Before Time (franchise)|The Land Before Time}}'', a film series centered on dinosaurs.

This comic shows a timeline of the history of the universe, from the {{w|Big Bang}} to the present day. Various permutations of "Land Before Time" are highlighted on the timeline - for example, the "time before land" is the period of time before any land existed in the universe. (If only land on Earth was counted, then the time before land would have extended until [https://curiosity.com/topics/the-first-continent-on-earth-curiosity/ 3 billion years BC]; Earth existed before then, but the oceans covered its entire surface.)

Some of the wordplay arises from exchanging the {{w|homophonous}} words "time" and “thyme", and the {{w|homonyms}} “land” meaning ground, and “land “ meaning to go from sky to ground, creating even more permutations. Additional words like "the", "on", etc. are sometimes added. Other wordplay arises from exchanging "before" with "bee for" and then rearranging the words to make grammatical sense.

The timeline includes points of interest to help understand the highlighted periods.

===Explanation of time ranges on the chart===

{| class="wikitable"
! Range !! From !! To !! Explanation
|-
|width=15%|'''The time before land'''
|width=10%|Big Bang
|width=10%|Rocky planets form
|width=65%|The {{w|Big Bang}} is a scientific theory that attempts to describe the very earliest conditions in our universe, but is also used informally as a synonym for the beginning of the universe. The early universe contained only simple elements such as hydrogen, but over time, star formation led to the creation of new, heavier elements, which eventually gave rise to planets with a rocky surface, which we call "land". It would have taken billions of years for the first such land-bearing planet to appear in the universe, so this time period could be considered "the time before land".
|-
|'''The time before bees'''
|Big Bang
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|This time range also includes the formation of the Earth, a necessary precondition for bees to evolve. Any time before the evolution of bees could be considered "The time before bees", although it should be noted that the chart does not account for the possibility that ''non-ground-nesting'' bees may have existed prior to ground-nesting ones. If they did, then the chart would be incorrect, as "The time before bees" (for bees as a whole) would precede the evolution of ground-nesting bees.
|-
|'''The land before thyme'''
|Rocky planets form
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|This time range is after land forms, but before {{w|thyme}} evolved. This is a direct parody of The Land Before Time's title.
|-
|'''Time for land bees!'''
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|Now
|When conditions change to allow an event to occur, people sometimes say "time for (event)!"{{Citation needed}}
|-
|'''Bees land on thyme'''
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|Now
|Bees are flying insects, and therefore must land in order to rest before taking off again. Now that thyme has evolved, bees are able to land on thyme plants. This is a pun on the word ''land'', which can mean solid ground, or, in this case, means to stop flying.
|}

The title text lists 2 places with the name "Beeland": [https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g2108670-d2094291-Reviews-Beeland-Spillimacheen_Kootenay_Rockies_British_Columbia.html Spillimacheen, British Columbia] or [http://www.apartmajimozirje.si/en/beeland/ a chalet in Slovenia].

==Transcript==
(Timeline not to scale)

[A timeline is shown with two endpoints, and five other points. The endpoints are labeled:]
:Big Bang
:Rocky Planets Form
:Earth Forms
:Ground-nesting bees evolve
:''The Land Before Time''
:Thymus Genus diverges
:Now

[Below the timeline are five overlapping time periods in three rows. The text is between two thick black bars. The time periods all start and end at two different points.]
:[Big Bang to Rocky Planets form:]
::The Time before Land

:[Big Bang to Ground-nesting bees evolve:]
::The Time before bees

:[Rocky Planets form to Thymus genus diverges:]
::The Land before Thyme

:[Ground-nesting bees evolve to Now:]
::Time for Land Bees!

:[Thymus genus diverges to Now:]
::Bees land on thyme

{{comic discussion}}

[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:Fiction]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Puns]]

2231: The Time Before and After Land

2019-11-21T16:03:15Z

Duraludon:

{{comic
| number = 2231
| date = November 20, 2019
| title = the Time Before And After Land
| image = the_time_before_and_after_land.png
| titletext = According to Google, "the time for Beeland" is apparently whenever you're looking for delicious honey in Spillimacheen, British Columbia or a hexagonal chalet in the Savinja valley in Slovenia.
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete explanation|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
This comic is wordplay on ''{{w|The Land Before Time (franchise)|The Land Before Time}}'', a film series centered on dinosaurs.

This comic shows a timeline of the history of the universe, from the {{w|Big Bang}} to the present day. Various permutations of "Land Before Time" are highlighted on the timeline - for example, the "time before land" is the period of time before any land existed in the universe. (If only land on Earth was counted, then the time before land would have extended until [https://curiosity.com/topics/the-first-continent-on-earth-curiosity/ 3 billion years BC]; Earth existed before then, but the oceans covered its entire surface.)

Some of the wordplay arises from exchanging the {{w|homophonous}} words "time" and “thyme", and the {{w|homonyms}} “land” meaning ground, and “land “ meaning to go from sky to ground, creating even more permutations. Additional words like "the", "on", etc. are sometimes added. Other wordplay arises from exchanging "before" with "bee for" and then rearranging the words to make grammatical sense.

The timeline includes points of interest to help understand the highlighted periods.

===Explanation of time ranges on the chart===

{| class="wikitable"
! Range !! From !! To !! Explanation
|-
|width=15%|'''The time before land'''
|width=10%|Big Bang
|width=10%|Rocky planets form
|width=65%|The {{w|Big Bang}} is a scientific theory that attempts to describe the very earliest conditions in our universe, but is also used informally as a synonym for the beginning of the universe. The early universe contained only simple elements such as hydrogen, but over time, star formation led to the creation of new, heavier elements, which eventually gave rise to planets with a rocky surface, which we call "land". It would have taken billions of years for the first such land-bearing planet to appear in the universe, so this time period could be considered "the time before land".
|-
|'''The time before bees'''
|Big Bang
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|This time range also includes the formation of the Earth, a necessary precondition for bees to evolve. Any time before the evolution of bees could be considered "The time before bees", although it should be noted that the chart does not account for the possibility that ''non-ground-nesting'' bees may have existed prior to ground-nesting ones. If they did, then the chart would be incorrect, as "The time before bees" (for bees as a whole) would precede the evolution of ground-nesting bees.
|-
|'''The land before thyme'''
|Rocky planets form
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|This time range is after land forms, but before {{w|thyme}} evolved. This is a direct parody of The Land Before Time's title.
|-
|'''Time for land bees!'''
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|Now
|When conditions change to allow an event to occur, people sometimes say "time for (event)!"{{Citation needed}}
|-
|'''Bees land on thyme'''
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|Now
|Bees are flying insects, and therefore must land in order to rest before taking off again. Now that thyme has evolved, bees are able to land on thyme plants. This is a pun on the word ''land'', which can mean solid ground, or, in this case, means to stop flying.
|}

The title text lists 2 places with the name "Beeland": [https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g2108670-d2094291-Reviews-Beeland-Spillimacheen_Kootenay_Rockies_British_Columbia.html Spillimacheen, British Columbia] or [http://www.apartmajimozirje.si/en/beeland/ a chalet in Slovenia].

==Transcript==
(Timeline not to scale)

[A timeline is shown with two endpoints, and five other points. The endpoints are labeled:]
:Big Bang
:Rocky Planets Form
:Earth Forms
:Ground-nesting bees evolve
:''The Land Before Time''
:Thymus Genus diverges
:Now

[Below the timeline are five overlapping time periods in three rows. The text is between two thick black bars. The time periods all start and end at two different points.]
:[Big Bang to Rocky Planets form:]
::The Time before Land

:[Big Bang to Ground-nesting bees evolve:]
::The Time before bees

:[Rocky Planets form to Thymus genus diverges:]
::The Land before Thyme

:[Ground-nesting bees evolve to Now:]
::Time for Land Bees!

:[Thymus genus diverges to Now:]
::Bees land on thyme

{{comic discussion}}

[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:Fiction]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Puns]]

2231: The Time Before and After Land

2019-11-21T15:54:56Z

Duraludon:

{{comic
| number = 2231
| date = November 20, 2019
| title = the Time Before And After Land
| image = the_time_before_and_after_land.png
| titletext = According to Google, "the time for Beeland" is apparently whenever you're looking for delicious honey in Spillimacheen, British Columbia or a hexagonal chalet in the Savinja valley in Slovenia.
}}

This comic is wordplay on ''{{w|The Land Before Time (franchise)|The Land Before Time}}'', a film series centered on dinosaurs.

This comic shows a timeline of the history of the universe, from the {{w|Big Bang}} to the present day. Various permutations of "Land Before Time" are highlighted on the timeline - for example, the "time before land" is the period of time before any land existed in the universe. (If only land on Earth was counted, then the time before land would have extended until [https://curiosity.com/topics/the-first-continent-on-earth-curiosity/ 3 billion years BC]; Earth existed before then, but the oceans covered its entire surface.)

Some of the wordplay arises from exchanging the {{w|homophonous}} words "time" and “thyme", and the {{w|homonyms}} “land” meaning ground, and “land “ meaning to go from sky to ground, creating even more permutations. Additional words like "the", "on", etc. are sometimes added.

The timeline includes points of interest to help understand the highlighted periods.

===Explanation of time ranges on the chart===

{| class="wikitable"
! Range !! From !! To !! Explanation
|-
|width=15%|'''The time before land'''
|width=10%|Big Bang
|width=10%|Rocky planets form
|width=65%|The {{w|Big Bang}} is a scientific theory that attempts to describe the very earliest conditions in our universe, but is also used informally as a synonym for the beginning of the universe. The early universe contained only simple elements such as hydrogen, but over time, star formation led to the creation of new, heavier elements, which eventually gave rise to planets with a rocky surface, which we call "land". It would have taken billions of years for the first such land-bearing planet to appear in the universe, so this time period could be considered "the time before land".
|-
|'''The time before bees'''
|Big Bang
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|This time range also includes the formation of the Earth, a necessary precondition for bees to evolve. Any time before the evolution of bees could be considered "The time before bees", although it should be noted that the chart does not account for the possibility that ''non-ground-nesting'' bees may have existed prior to ground-nesting ones. If they did, then the chart would be incorrect, as "The time before bees" (for bees as a whole) would precede the evolution of ground-nesting bees.
|-
|'''The land before thyme'''
|Rocky planets form
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|This time range is after land forms, but before {{w|thyme}} evolved. This is a direct parody of The Land Before Time's title.
|-
|'''Time for land bees!'''
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|Now
|When conditions change to allow an event to occur, people sometimes say "time for (event)!"{{Citation needed}}
|-
|'''Bees land on thyme'''
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|Now
|Bees are flying insects, and therefore must land in order to rest before taking off again. Now that thyme has evolved, bees are able to land on thyme plants. This is a pun on the word ''land'', which can mean solid ground, or, in this case, means to stop flying.
|}

The title text lists 2 places with the name "Beeland": [https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g2108670-d2094291-Reviews-Beeland-Spillimacheen_Kootenay_Rockies_British_Columbia.html Spillimacheen, British Columbia] or [http://www.apartmajimozirje.si/en/beeland/ a chalet in Slovenia].

==Transcript==
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
(Timeline not to scale)

[A timeline is shown with two endpoints, and five other points. The endpoints are labeled:]
:Big Bang
:Rocky Planets Form
:Earth Forms
:Ground-nesting bees evolve
:''The Land Before Time''
:Thymus Genus diverges
:Now

[Below the timeline are five overlapping time periods in three rows. The text is between two thick black bars. The time periods all start and end at two different points.]
:[Big Bang to Rocky Planets form:]
::The Time before Land

:[Big Bang to Ground-nesting bees evolve:]
::The Time before bees

:[Rocky Planets form to Thymus genus diverges:]
::The Land before Thyme

:[Ground-nesting bees evolve to Now:]
::Time for Land Bees!

:[Thymus genus diverges to Now:]
::Bees land on thyme

{{comic discussion}}

[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:Fiction]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Puns]]

2231: The Time Before and After Land

2019-11-21T15:54:27Z

Duraludon: /* Transcript */

{{comic
| number = 2231
| date = November 20, 2019
| title = the Time Before And After Land
| image = the_time_before_and_after_land.png
| titletext = According to Google, "the time for Beeland" is apparently whenever you're looking for delicious honey in Spillimacheen, British Columbia or a hexagonal chalet in the Savinja valley in Slovenia.
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a BEE ON THYME. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

This comic is wordplay on ''{{w|The Land Before Time (franchise)|The Land Before Time}}'', a film series centered on dinosaurs.

This comic shows a timeline of the history of the universe, from the {{w|Big Bang}} to the present day. Various permutations of "Land Before Time" are highlighted on the timeline - for example, the "time before land" is the period of time before any land existed in the universe. (If only land on Earth was counted, then the time before land would have extended until [https://curiosity.com/topics/the-first-continent-on-earth-curiosity/ 3 billion years BC]; Earth existed before then, but the oceans covered its entire surface.)

Some of the wordplay arises from exchanging the {{w|homophonous}} words "time" and “thyme", and the {{w|homonyms}} “land” meaning ground, and “land “ meaning to go from sky to ground, creating even more permutations. Additional words like "the", "on", etc. are sometimes added.

The timeline includes points of interest to help understand the highlighted periods.

===Explanation of time ranges on the chart===

{| class="wikitable"
! Range !! From !! To !! Explanation
|-
|width=15%|'''The time before land'''
|width=10%|Big Bang
|width=10%|Rocky planets form
|width=65%|The {{w|Big Bang}} is a scientific theory that attempts to describe the very earliest conditions in our universe, but is also used informally as a synonym for the beginning of the universe. The early universe contained only simple elements such as hydrogen, but over time, star formation led to the creation of new, heavier elements, which eventually gave rise to planets with a rocky surface, which we call "land". It would have taken billions of years for the first such land-bearing planet to appear in the universe, so this time period could be considered "the time before land".
|-
|'''The time before bees'''
|Big Bang
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|This time range also includes the formation of the Earth, a necessary precondition for bees to evolve. Any time before the evolution of bees could be considered "The time before bees", although it should be noted that the chart does not account for the possibility that ''non-ground-nesting'' bees may have existed prior to ground-nesting ones. If they did, then the chart would be incorrect, as "The time before bees" (for bees as a whole) would precede the evolution of ground-nesting bees.
|-
|'''The land before thyme'''
|Rocky planets form
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|This time range is after land forms, but before {{w|thyme}} evolved. This is a direct parody of The Land Before Time's title.
|-
|'''Time for land bees!'''
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|Now
|When conditions change to allow an event to occur, people sometimes say "time for (event)!"{{Citation needed}}
|-
|'''Bees land on thyme'''
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|Now
|Bees are flying insects, and therefore must land in order to rest before taking off again. Now that thyme has evolved, bees are able to land on thyme plants. This is a pun on the word ''land'', which can mean solid ground, or, in this case, means to stop flying.
|}

The title text lists 2 places with the name "Beeland": [https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g2108670-d2094291-Reviews-Beeland-Spillimacheen_Kootenay_Rockies_British_Columbia.html Spillimacheen, British Columbia] or [http://www.apartmajimozirje.si/en/beeland/ a chalet in Slovenia].

==Transcript==
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
(Timeline not to scale)

[A timeline is shown with two endpoints, and five other points. The endpoints are labeled:]
:Big Bang
:Rocky Planets Form
:Earth Forms
:Ground-nesting bees evolve
:''The Land Before Time''
:Thymus Genus diverges
:Now

[Below the timeline are five overlapping time periods in three rows. The text is between two thick black bars. The time periods all start and end at two different points.]
:[Big Bang to Rocky Planets form:]
::The Time before Land

:[Big Bang to Ground-nesting bees evolve:]
::The Time before bees

:[Rocky Planets form to Thymus genus diverges:]
::The Land before Thyme

:[Ground-nesting bees evolve to Now:]
::Time for Land Bees!

:[Thymus genus diverges to Now:]
::Bees land on thyme

{{comic discussion}}

[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:Fiction]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Puns]]

2231: The Time Before and After Land

2019-11-21T15:53:50Z

Duraludon: /* Transcript */

{{comic
| number = 2231
| date = November 20, 2019
| title = the Time Before And After Land
| image = the_time_before_and_after_land.png
| titletext = According to Google, "the time for Beeland" is apparently whenever you're looking for delicious honey in Spillimacheen, British Columbia or a hexagonal chalet in the Savinja valley in Slovenia.
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a BEE ON THYME. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

This comic is wordplay on ''{{w|The Land Before Time (franchise)|The Land Before Time}}'', a film series centered on dinosaurs.

This comic shows a timeline of the history of the universe, from the {{w|Big Bang}} to the present day. Various permutations of "Land Before Time" are highlighted on the timeline - for example, the "time before land" is the period of time before any land existed in the universe. (If only land on Earth was counted, then the time before land would have extended until [https://curiosity.com/topics/the-first-continent-on-earth-curiosity/ 3 billion years BC]; Earth existed before then, but the oceans covered its entire surface.)

Some of the wordplay arises from exchanging the {{w|homophonous}} words "time" and “thyme", and the {{w|homonyms}} “land” meaning ground, and “land “ meaning to go from sky to ground, creating even more permutations. Additional words like "the", "on", etc. are sometimes added.

The timeline includes points of interest to help understand the highlighted periods.

===Explanation of time ranges on the chart===

{| class="wikitable"
! Range !! From !! To !! Explanation
|-
|width=15%|'''The time before land'''
|width=10%|Big Bang
|width=10%|Rocky planets form
|width=65%|The {{w|Big Bang}} is a scientific theory that attempts to describe the very earliest conditions in our universe, but is also used informally as a synonym for the beginning of the universe. The early universe contained only simple elements such as hydrogen, but over time, star formation led to the creation of new, heavier elements, which eventually gave rise to planets with a rocky surface, which we call "land". It would have taken billions of years for the first such land-bearing planet to appear in the universe, so this time period could be considered "the time before land".
|-
|'''The time before bees'''
|Big Bang
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|This time range also includes the formation of the Earth, a necessary precondition for bees to evolve. Any time before the evolution of bees could be considered "The time before bees", although it should be noted that the chart does not account for the possibility that ''non-ground-nesting'' bees may have existed prior to ground-nesting ones. If they did, then the chart would be incorrect, as "The time before bees" (for bees as a whole) would precede the evolution of ground-nesting bees.
|-
|'''The land before thyme'''
|Rocky planets form
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|This time range is after land forms, but before {{w|thyme}} evolved. This is a direct parody of The Land Before Time's title.
|-
|'''Time for land bees!'''
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|Now
|When conditions change to allow an event to occur, people sometimes say "time for (event)!"{{Citation needed}}
|-
|'''Bees land on thyme'''
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|Now
|Bees are flying insects, and therefore must land in order to rest before taking off again. Now that thyme has evolved, bees are able to land on thyme plants. This is a pun on the word ''land'', which can mean solid ground, or, in this case, means to stop flying.
|}

The title text lists 2 places with the name "Beeland": [https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g2108670-d2094291-Reviews-Beeland-Spillimacheen_Kootenay_Rockies_British_Columbia.html Spillimacheen, British Columbia] or [http://www.apartmajimozirje.si/en/beeland/ a chalet in Slovenia].

==Transcript==
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
(Timeline not to scale)

[A timeline is shown with two endpoints, and five other points. The endpoints are labeled:]
:Big Bang
:Rocky Planets Form
:Earth Forms
:Ground-nesting bees evolve
:''The Land Before Time''
:Thymus Genus diverges
:Now

[Below the timeline are five overlapping time periods in three rows. The text is between two thick black bars. The time periods all start and end at two different points.]
[Big Bang to Rocky Planets form:]
:The Time before Land

[Big Bang to Ground-nesting bees evolve:]
:The Time before bees

[Rocky Planets form to Thymus genus diverges:]
:The Land before Thyme

[Ground-nesting bees evolve to Now:]
:Time for Land Bees!

[Thymus genus diverges to Now:]
:Bees land on thyme

{{comic discussion}}

[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:Fiction]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Puns]]

2231: The Time Before and After Land

2019-11-21T15:36:29Z

Duraludon: /* Explanation of time ranges on the chart */

{{comic
| number = 2231
| date = November 20, 2019
| title = the Time Before And After Land
| image = the_time_before_and_after_land.png
| titletext = According to Google, "the time for Beeland" is apparently whenever you're looking for delicious honey in Spillimacheen, British Columbia or a hexagonal chalet in the Savinja valley in Slovenia.
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a BEE ON THYME. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

This comic is wordplay on ''{{w|The Land Before Time (franchise)|The Land Before Time}}'', a film series centered on dinosaurs.

This comic shows a timeline of the history of the universe, from the {{w|Big Bang}} to the present day. Various permutations of "Land Before Time" are highlighted on the timeline - for example, the "time before land" is the period of time before any land existed in the universe. (If only land on Earth was counted, then the time before land would have extended until [https://curiosity.com/topics/the-first-continent-on-earth-curiosity/ 3 billion years BC]; Earth existed before then, but the oceans covered its entire surface.)

Some of the wordplay arises from exchanging the {{w|homophonous}} words "time" and “thyme", and the {{w|homonyms}} “land” meaning ground, and “land “ meaning to go from sky to ground, creating even more permutations. Additional words like "the", "on", etc. are sometimes added.

The timeline includes points of interest to help understand the highlighted periods.

===Explanation of time ranges on the chart===

{| class="wikitable"
! Range !! From !! To !! Explanation
|-
|width=15%|'''The time before land'''
|width=10%|Big Bang
|width=10%|Rocky planets form
|width=65%|The {{w|Big Bang}} is a scientific theory that attempts to describe the very earliest conditions in our universe, but is also used informally as a synonym for the beginning of the universe. The early universe contained only simple elements such as hydrogen, but over time, star formation led to the creation of new, heavier elements, which eventually gave rise to planets with a rocky surface, which we call "land". It would have taken billions of years for the first such land-bearing planet to appear in the universe, so this time period could be considered "the time before land".
|-
|'''The time before bees'''
|Big Bang
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|This time range also includes the formation of the Earth, a necessary precondition for bees to evolve. Any time before the evolution of bees could be considered "The time before bees", although it should be noted that the chart does not account for the possibility that ''non-ground-nesting'' bees may have existed prior to ground-nesting ones. If they did, then the chart would be incorrect, as "The time before bees" (for bees as a whole) would precede the evolution of ground-nesting bees.
|-
|'''The land before thyme'''
|Rocky planets form
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|This time range is after land forms, but before {{w|thyme}} evolved. This is a direct parody of The Land Before Time's title.
|-
|'''Time for land bees!'''
|Ground-nesting bees evolve
|Now
|When conditions change to allow an event to occur, people sometimes say "time for (event)!"{{Citation needed}}
|-
|'''Bees land on thyme'''
|''Thymus'' genus diverges
|Now
|Bees are flying insects, and therefore must land in order to rest before taking off again. Now that thyme has evolved, bees are able to land on thyme plants. This is a pun on the word ''land'', which can mean solid ground, or, in this case, means to stop flying.
|}

The title text lists 2 places with the name "Beeland": [https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g2108670-d2094291-Reviews-Beeland-Spillimacheen_Kootenay_Rockies_British_Columbia.html Spillimacheen, British Columbia] or [http://www.apartmajimozirje.si/en/beeland/ a chalet in Slovenia].

==Transcript==
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

{{comic discussion}}

[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:Fiction]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Puns]]

1885: Ensemble Model

2019-11-20T20:24:35Z

Duraludon: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 1885
| date = September 4, 2017
| title = Ensemble Model
| image = ensemble_model.png
| titletext = I'm in talks with Netflix to produce an alternate-universe crime drama about the world where sliced bread was never re-legalized, but it's going slowly because they keep changing their phone numbers and the door lock codes at their headquarters.
}}

==Explanation==
An {{w|ensemble forecasting|ensemble model}} is a combination of multiple, similar models to show a wider range of possible outcomes. The graphs on the left are tracks of predictions from multiple models. In this comic, [[Randall]] starts out describing actual changes that ensemble models show, but sinks into absurdity, describing strange alternate universes and scenarios that likely would not be necessary in an actual model.

The upper graph shows a typical plot of predicted wind speeds over time from various ensemble members. The graph shows that it is predicted that the storm will strengthen, with varying degrees of weakening depending on the ensemble member. The graph at the left bottom is a typical map of isobars (lines of equal {{w|Atmospheric pressure|pressure}}) for various ensemble members with the ensemble members showing slightly different configurations. The bottom right graph is a typical {{w|Tropical cyclone|hurricane}} path-prediction graphic, starting in the Atlantic moving westwards and then turning to north, often with the {{w|List of Caribbean islands|Caribbean Islands}} or the US coast in the path. Some hurricanes don't reach mainlands and after turning north they head eastwards and can reach Europe still as strong storm.

The term {{w|Universe (mathematics)|universe}} is in mathematics a class that contains all the entities of an ensemble in a given situation. Don't be confused with the more common usage of the words {{w|universe}}, the entire space where we live, and {{w|multiverse}}, a hypothetical set of possible universes.

The first three outcomes are real while the others are less serious. They are explained below:
;…rain is 0.5% more likely in some areas …wind speeds are slightly lower …pressure levels are randomly tweaked
These realistic outcomes are only possible under calm weather conditions. Predicting these values with an accuracy better than 1% indicates that the model is stable even when the ''initial conditions'' are slightly changed. Modern weather forecasts at normal circumstances are often not good as this and for a hurricane or tornado the variances are much higher.

;…dogs run slightly faster
This is where the comic diverges from reality; there is no reason to have the locomotion speed of dogs as a parameter in a usual weather model.
The speed of dogs might be a parameter in a wildlife model, where the speed of a predator might affect the predator/prey ratios. In terms of weather models, dogs traditionally chase cats, so running faster might affect the number of cats. Cats prey on birds, which in turn eat insects. So faster dogs might increase the number of birds, reducing the number of butterflies. Butterflies in turn affect the weather through the {{w|Butterfly effect|butterfly effect}} (that is that the movement of a butterflies wings may change the development of tornados, or other weather, in difficult to predict ways, as for instance with the [https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Quantum_weather_butterflies quantum weather butterfly]).

;…there is one extra cloud in the Bahamas
This situation is most likely too specific and subtle a difference to be useful to the model.

;…Germany won WWII
"What if Germany won World War II" is a {{w|Hypothetical Axis victory in World War II|very popular}} subject for {{w|alternate history}} stories.

;…snakes are wide instead of long
Snakes being wider than they are long (think "eyes and mouth in the middle of their body and a tail on both sides") in present reality would have enormous consequences for zoology and other fields of biology, including evolutionary biology. It would also have an impact on art history, especially where it involves paintings depicting certain scenes from the book of Genesis. Compared to these effects, the expected upshot for meteorology seems to be limited.

;…Will Smith took the lead in ''The Matrix'' instead of ''Wild Wild West''
Actor {{w|Will Smith}} famously turned down the lead role of {{w|Neo (The Matrix)|Neo}} in ''{{w|The Matrix}}'', instead taking the role of Captain James T. West in the widely-panned action-comedy ''{{w|Wild Wild West}}''. The role of Neo ultimately went to {{w|Keanu Reeves}}. For a more detailed discussion of how the cinematic world would have been different had Smith taken the role, see [https://moviepilot.com/posts/2481780 "How Will Smith Turned Down "The Matrix" - And Blew A Chance To Change Hollywood Forever."]

Besides the significance of the role and what many surmise might have happened if Smith had pulled off the role in the iconic and groundbreaking film trilogy, another possible reason behind calling out Will Smith in particular is that he has turned down other offered roles that would place him in an ''ensemble'' cast, rather than the lead.

;…swimming pools are carbonated
A simple calculation reveals this as a serious {{w|Greenhouse effect|greenhouse}} problem. In the United States there are not less than 5,000,000 private owned pools. Conservatively assumed a volume of 25,000 liters per pool gives 125 billion liters of carbonated soda. According to Wikipedia the U.S. sales reached around 30 billion bottles of water in 2008 (including non carbonated water) which is surely much less than all the pool water. While all those bottles are not considered to have an impact on the green house effect this scenario is getting even worse. Open a bottle of carbonated water and fill the content into glasses. More or less soon the sprinkling is over, meaning you have to open the next bottle and so on. In a pool at the bottom the pressure is high enough to hold the carbon dioxide but on the surface it behaves like the glass. So, while a glass needs new carbonated water every two hours, or ten times per day, let's say it's three times per day for the pool which leads to one thousand times per year. The total number in this scenario would be 125 trillion liters of carbonated soda, ejecting carbon dioxide, per year. But stop: The carbon dioxide used for artificial carbonated water is taken from the air and because of the pressure at the bottom of the pool it doesn't release all back this should have a positive effect. But as Randall has shown in {{what if|88|Soda Sequestration}} this effect would be minimal.

;…sliced bread, after being banned in January 1943, was never re-legalized.
{{w|Sliced bread}} was in fact {{w|Sliced bread#1943 U.S. ban on sliced bread|banned in the US}} for about two months in early 1943, as a supposed wartime conservation measure. The issue was not the bread itself, but that the pre-sliced loaves required a heavier {{w|wax paper}} wrapping to prevent them from drying out too quickly.

The title text suggests that Randall has been pitching an absurd "alternate-universe crime drama" to {{w|Netflix}}, apparently based on the premise that a permanent sliced-bread ban would spawn a criminal underground (similar to those created by alcohol and drug prohibitions in actual history). The first half of the sentence is set up to imply that production had started on the series but a breakdown in communication has occurred between them, playing on the reader's expectations. The conclusion of the sentence nonetheless makes it clear that Netflix has zero interest in the pitch, and so Randall has become overzealous in pushing his idea, to the point that Netflix employees are changing their numbers (presumably they can't block his number because he has resorted to calling from many different phones). He has even taken to infiltrating Netflix's corporate headquarters using ill-gotten security codes, which is definitely illegal{{Citation needed}}, much like [[Elaine]]'s "meetings" with Steve Jobs in [[1337: Part 3]].

However, it is clear that Netflix is uninterested and is attempting to prevent Randall from contacting them (or trespassing into the building).

==Transcript==
:[Inside this single panel comic the header on top reads:]
:In an ''ensemble model'', forecasters run many different versions of a weather model with slightly different initial conditions. This helps account for uncertainty and shows forecasters a spread of possible outcomes.

:[To the left side a picture shows several gray overlapping swirling lines emitted from a point, then gradually diverging rightwards. Below are two smaller pictures; the first shows the lines connected to several loops and in the second it's still a similar figure to the above but moving into the opposite direction with the point emerged to a spiral.]

:[The text right to the pictures reads:]
:'''Members in a typical ensemble:'''
:A universe where…
:…rain is 0.5% more likely in some areas
:…wind speeds are slightly lower
:…pressure levels are randomly tweaked
:…dogs run slightly faster
:…there's one extra cloud in the Bahamas
:…Germany won WWII
:…snakes are wide instead of long
:…Will Smith took the lead in ''The Matrix'' instead of ''Wild Wild West''
:…swimming pools are carbonated
:…sliced bread, after being banned in January 1943, was never re-legalized.

==Trivia==
[[2149: Alternate Histories]] also deals with the alternative history setting of Germany winning WW2 and subsequently more weird alternate history settings.

{{comic discussion}}

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[[Category:Weather]]

Talk:2230: Versus Bracket

2019-11-18T20:22:30Z

Duraludon:

Because I didn't know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic:_Ecks_vs._Sever - "Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever is a 2002 action thriller film directed by Wych Kaosayananda (under the pseudonym of "Kaos"). The film stars Antonio Banderas and Lucy Liu as opposing secret agents who team up to fight a common enemy. It is an international co-production between Canada, Germany and the United States.
The film has been called one of the worst ever made. At the box office, it made $19.9 million on a $70 million budget. With a total of 117 reviews, the highest for a film with a 0% score, Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever is the worst reviewed film in the history of Rotten Tomatoes." [[User:Afbach|Afbach]] ([[User talk:Afbach|talk]])

Some of these matchups have relatively clear outcomes, e.g. Ford beat Ferrari (at least in the movie), and presumably we can say Kramer won Kramer v. Kramer (well, everybody lost, but...). That in mind, if we fill out the bracket with such nominal wins that lead to matchups, (Kramer v. Ford), do we learn anything interesting? And what does the resulting bracket look like? [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 18:44, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Should a table of all the match-ups and their sources be made? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.246.28|162.158.246.28]] 19:16, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Should this be referencing the other time (or times?) Randall made a silly brackets where all first-round matchups are based on actual oppositions in a particular theme? I'm thinking of [https://xkcd.com/2037/|2037: Supreme Court Bracket]. Also I kinda wonder what happens when the winners of these two brackets clash. [[Special:Contributions/91.164.113.87|91.164.113.87]] 19:22, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Added this to the Tournament Bracket category for just that reason. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.145|172.69.63.145]]

I stole the description directly from [[2037|Supreme Court Bracket]], is that okay? [[User:Duraludon|Duraludon]] ([[User talk:Duraludon|talk]]) 20:22, 18 November 2019 (UTC)