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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Johanna-Hypatia: /* Intuitiveness */ eta&lt;/p&gt;
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As someone who lives near San Fransisco, but has lived in multiple other climates, I can say, San Fransisco can be pretty cold during summer months (compared to normal summers), but is still moderate. If you truely hate heat though, avoid mid-September till November as that is our hottest time of year, since there is not as much fog then. Once November hits it pretty suddenly gets cold again though. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.187|172.68.189.187]] 06:08, 15 November 2017 (UTC)Rowan&lt;br /&gt;
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This graph doesn't make any sense. In my experience, people who live in places with hot summers hate heat, and people who live in places with cold winters hate coldness. Everyone I've ever spoken from Perth basically constantly complains about the heat! Shouldn't the whole thing be flipped? [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 08:46, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just now realized that it says &amp;quot;where ''to'' live,&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;where you live.&amp;quot; I take back this silly comment ^_^; My bad [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 09:00, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is there dirt in the middle of the picture? [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 09:06, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It appears to be a faded-out image, probably some reference pic that Randall was using while drawing. Something similar appeared in [[1561: Water Phase Diagram#Original version|1561]], and was later removed. [[User:Peregrine|Peregrine]] ([[User talk:Peregrine|talk]]) 11:32, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Coming from Denmark I'm really dissapointed that he left out our capital, and the largest city in Scandinavia, Copenhagen, when he has both Oslo, Stockholm and .... Reykjavik... :-D But guess it should be placed near Oslo... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:54, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Within the mid-United States, Randall ignored Chicago entirely and highlighted Minneapolis.  Since I'm originally from Minnesota, I appreciate that a LOT. (Chicago can keep their wind, those blowhards; if you want a humid summer, find a Minnesota lake for your vacation!  Then enjoy the ice fishing in winter, too.) '''--BigMal''' // [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.184|108.162.216.184]] 15:16, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Denver isn't on here. We have over 230 temperate days per year; We get big snow sometimes, then it melts away within a day or two. I think it belongs somewhere directly below Paris? I wonder how we'd be positioned relative to Portland...&lt;br /&gt;
::There's no way Randall has spent any significant time near Lubbock Texas; It should be shown farther up &amp;amp; to the right, maybe a lot farther.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[Special:Contributions/172.68.58.59|172.68.58.59]] 02:46, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm disappointed he left out Hamburg, Germany (and instead included Berlin). Average high over the year in Hamburg is 13.2°C (highest average is 22.1°C and 22.2°C in July and August, respectively), average low over the year is 6.2°C (lowest average is -1.4°C in January). So, if you like mild winters as much as you like mild summers, you should live in Hamburg. --[[User:LordHorst|LordHorst]] ([[User talk:LordHorst|talk]]) 09:52, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So I've added a table with one entry for you all to put in data. I don't know where to find humidex info but the average low temperatures should be easy enough to find on e.g. Wikipedia. --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 10:10, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I've sorted all the disambiguations out apart from Richmond. My instinct is to say it's Richmond, Virginia but now I've seen how many Richmonds there are I'm not so sure...--[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 12:07, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that &amp;quot;Altay&amp;quot; is more likely to be {{w|Altay City|Altay City, China}}, not {{w|Altai City|Altai City, Mongolia}}. The Wikipedia-preferred spellings are one piece of evidence, but more convincing is the position of &amp;quot;Altay&amp;quot; right '''above''' (i.e. winters warmer than) &amp;quot;Regina&amp;quot;. If this is {{w|Regina, Saskatchewan}}, then its temperature profile (per Wikipedia) is very similar to the Chinese city.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jan average: Regina, −20.1 to −9.3°C, and Altay, −21 to −9.4°C (versus Altai, −24.8 to −10.4°C)... pretty close all around, but Altai is a little colder.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jul average: Regina, 11.9 to 25.8°C, and Altay, 15.1 to 28.2°C (versus Altai, 8.0 to 19.7°C)... Altay is warmer than Regina, whereas Altai is quite a bit colder.&lt;br /&gt;
* Annual average: Regina, −3.2 to 9.3°C, and Altay, −1.4 to 10.7°C (versus Altai, −7.98 to 5.03°C)... Altai is again noticeably colder.&lt;br /&gt;
(Oops, edit conflict with [[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]]. Before their edit—which points to Altay City, China—the table said it was unclear which was meant.)&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[User:Peregrine|Peregrine]] ([[User talk:Peregrine|talk]]) 12:18, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry, I changed my mind, I can't remember why now... --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 13:28, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So, the table lists temperatures for these cities from some unknown source(s), that may not be the same source(s) Randall used. I think the more interesting table would bte the table of X/y coordinates for each city from the comic. No? [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 15:01, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I disagree - we can see where they are on the comic, so that's not very interesting at all. This table puts some hard figures on the co-ordinates. (In most explanations when we 'estimate' co-ordinates, it's because there are no hard figures). By the way, the source I'm using for my figures is weatherbase.com as suggested in the transcript. I can't speak what others are using but maybe we should make this clearer. --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 16:05, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Chicago? Bottom right corner.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Chicago averages around 12 days of 90+ and none over 100 per year (similar to New York) does not rank as being all that hot on a world scale  [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 18:47, 15 November 2017 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
: Wherever Chicago should go (and it's definitely in the lower right quadrant), it's weird that Randall didn't put it there. It's the USA's third-largest city and by far the biggest metropolitan area in the Midwest. How did Minneapolis make the cut if Chicago didn't? (No offense, Minnesotans.) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.250|108.162.216.250]] 23:33, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Added hottest month Humidex values for all cities that have temperature and dew point data, using equation from the Wikipedia page on Humidex.&lt;br /&gt;
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My jimmies are really rustled by Randall using the puny american McMurdo station (record low of mere -51 centigrade) instead of the glorious russian Vostok station (record low -89 &amp;quot;steel shatters&amp;quot; centigrade). &lt;br /&gt;
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As a resident of Oregon, I vote for Portland being Portland, OR.  It is not only larger than Portland, Maine; it also more closely fits the mild climate that Randall seems to place it in on the graph.  An early settler wrote two letters back east:  The first, &amp;quot;Come live with me, there ain't no winter here&amp;quot;, the second six months later &amp;quot;Nevermind, there ain't no summer either&amp;quot; [[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 21:44, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not convinced by the Humidex numbers (or possibly the calculation) for London.  It has the third highest value of 49.3, which according to the Wikipedia entry for Humidex, is &amp;quot;Dangerous; heat stroke quite possible&amp;quot;.  London can occasionally have some unpleasantly hot days in the summer, but generally (as the diagram implies) it's rarely too hot or too cold. --[[User:TimO|TimO]] ([[User talk:TimO|talk]]) 10:26, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're right - I think someone got their numbers out of sync when they were typing them in, there were several in the wrong place. Fixed now --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 13:38, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the Humidex right for Rio? It shows 48, but meaning it should have been one of the furthest to the right. But that's not where it was drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know whether or not that's correct, but it could be: That is a known problem with Humidex (note: it was invented in Canada and has not been adopted in many southern countries where heat and humidity is much larger). See: [http://ptaff.ca/humidex/?lang=en_CA an argument about wind chill and Humidex]. That value seems to be correct, as calculated by [http://www.physlink.com/Reference/Weather.cfm this site]. However, maybe there's multiple different equations to compute Humidex? [[User:Jeudi Violist|Jeudi Violist]] ([[User talk:Jeudi Violist|talk]]) 22:05, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperatures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For the low/high temperatures, should it be the average temperature of the coldest/hottest months or the average low/high of the coldest/hottest months?&lt;br /&gt;
The two are not the same, and you can get both from weatherbase.com.&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the data is already messed up. I highly doubt that Raleigh is the hottest place on earth. AFAIK, people live there, but I don't think anyone could survive between 50C and 70C all year round...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Dkasza|Dkasza]] ([[User talk:Dkasza|talk]]) 03:31, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hi Dkasza, thanks for the comment. I think the point of the original comic is to compare how hot it typically gets in summer - so the average high for the hottest month - with how cold it gets in winter - so the average low for the coldest month. That's what I went with - I think the average temperature for the hottest month isn't the best because it doesn't tell you ''how hot it gets'' (and similarly for cold). As for Raleigh, I think the data you mention must have been changed because it looks reasonable now - perhaps someone originally but the Fahrenheit values in by mistake? I've entered most of the data myself, but feel free to correct any errors! --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 14:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Intuitiveness ==&lt;br /&gt;
Comparing relative placements on the map with cities I've been to or lived in: All the ones I see on the chart make a very good fit for how I've known them. It's very well drawn. St. Louis and DC are definitely pinpoint accurate. Same goes for Toronto, Istanbul, Santa Fe, New York, &amp;amp; Tehran. &lt;br /&gt;
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Chart didn't include Cleveland, Ohio, so I'll tell you it falls right between Toronto and Sioux Falls in the lower middle range. I pretty much agree with 172 about Denver; I'd place it about where Geneva is, though I've never been to Geneva.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for equable climates of the upper left, keeping to moderate temperatures year-round, I have heard that a lot about Aruba and Kampala. I personally knew a colleague from Kampala who verified that: on the equator and elevation 1,190 m (3,900 ft), charted perhaps above Addis Ababa and left of Nairobi. Aruba I've heard is equable year-round, thanks to ocean breezes off the Caribbean. My parents have been there, but I haven't; it probably keeps company with Kampala. Kuala Lumpur would keep company in the upper right with Jakarta and Singapore. Messina (my ancestral province) keeps company in the upper middle space between Santiago and Athens. Palermo would be closer to Santiago. Diggin how intuitive it is from the chart, without even looking at the data tables below. [[User:Johanna-Hypatia|Johanna-Hypatia]] ([[User talk:Johanna-Hypatia|talk]]) 23:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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As someone who lives near San Fransisco, but has lived in multiple other climates, I can say, San Fransisco can be pretty cold during summer months (compared to normal summers), but is still moderate. If you truely hate heat though, avoid mid-September till November as that is our hottest time of year, since there is not as much fog then. Once November hits it pretty suddenly gets cold again though. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.187|172.68.189.187]] 06:08, 15 November 2017 (UTC)Rowan&lt;br /&gt;
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This graph doesn't make any sense. In my experience, people who live in places with hot summers hate heat, and people who live in places with cold winters hate coldness. Everyone I've ever spoken from Perth basically constantly complains about the heat! Shouldn't the whole thing be flipped? [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 08:46, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just now realized that it says &amp;quot;where ''to'' live,&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;where you live.&amp;quot; I take back this silly comment ^_^; My bad [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 09:00, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is there dirt in the middle of the picture? [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 09:06, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It appears to be a faded-out image, probably some reference pic that Randall was using while drawing. Something similar appeared in [[1561: Water Phase Diagram#Original version|1561]], and was later removed. [[User:Peregrine|Peregrine]] ([[User talk:Peregrine|talk]]) 11:32, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Coming from Denmark I'm really dissapointed that he left out our capital, and the largest city in Scandinavia, Copenhagen, when he has both Oslo, Stockholm and .... Reykjavik... :-D But guess it should be placed near Oslo... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:54, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Within the mid-United States, Randall ignored Chicago entirely and highlighted Minneapolis.  Since I'm originally from Minnesota, I appreciate that a LOT. (Chicago can keep their wind, those blowhards; if you want a humid summer, find a Minnesota lake for your vacation!  Then enjoy the ice fishing in winter, too.) '''--BigMal''' // [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.184|108.162.216.184]] 15:16, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Denver isn't on here. We have over 230 temperate days per year; We get big snow sometimes, then it melts away within a day or two. I think it belongs somewhere directly below Paris? I wonder how we'd be positioned relative to Portland...&lt;br /&gt;
::There's no way Randall has spent any significant time near Lubbock Texas; It should be shown farther up &amp;amp; to the right, maybe a lot farther.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[Special:Contributions/172.68.58.59|172.68.58.59]] 02:46, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm disappointed he left out Hamburg, Germany (and instead included Berlin). Average high over the year in Hamburg is 13.2°C (highest average is 22.1°C and 22.2°C in July and August, respectively), average low over the year is 6.2°C (lowest average is -1.4°C in January). So, if you like mild winters as much as you like mild summers, you should live in Hamburg. --[[User:LordHorst|LordHorst]] ([[User talk:LordHorst|talk]]) 09:52, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So I've added a table with one entry for you all to put in data. I don't know where to find humidex info but the average low temperatures should be easy enough to find on e.g. Wikipedia. --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 10:10, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I've sorted all the disambiguations out apart from Richmond. My instinct is to say it's Richmond, Virginia but now I've seen how many Richmonds there are I'm not so sure...--[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 12:07, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that &amp;quot;Altay&amp;quot; is more likely to be {{w|Altay City|Altay City, China}}, not {{w|Altai City|Altai City, Mongolia}}. The Wikipedia-preferred spellings are one piece of evidence, but more convincing is the position of &amp;quot;Altay&amp;quot; right '''above''' (i.e. winters warmer than) &amp;quot;Regina&amp;quot;. If this is {{w|Regina, Saskatchewan}}, then its temperature profile (per Wikipedia) is very similar to the Chinese city.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jan average: Regina, −20.1 to −9.3°C, and Altay, −21 to −9.4°C (versus Altai, −24.8 to −10.4°C)... pretty close all around, but Altai is a little colder.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jul average: Regina, 11.9 to 25.8°C, and Altay, 15.1 to 28.2°C (versus Altai, 8.0 to 19.7°C)... Altay is warmer than Regina, whereas Altai is quite a bit colder.&lt;br /&gt;
* Annual average: Regina, −3.2 to 9.3°C, and Altay, −1.4 to 10.7°C (versus Altai, −7.98 to 5.03°C)... Altai is again noticeably colder.&lt;br /&gt;
(Oops, edit conflict with [[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]]. Before their edit—which points to Altay City, China—the table said it was unclear which was meant.)&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[User:Peregrine|Peregrine]] ([[User talk:Peregrine|talk]]) 12:18, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, sorry, I changed my mind, I can't remember why now... --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 13:28, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So, the table lists temperatures for these cities from some unknown source(s), that may not be the same source(s) Randall used. I think the more interesting table would bte the table of X/y coordinates for each city from the comic. No? [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 15:01, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I disagree - we can see where they are on the comic, so that's not very interesting at all. This table puts some hard figures on the co-ordinates. (In most explanations when we 'estimate' co-ordinates, it's because there are no hard figures). By the way, the source I'm using for my figures is weatherbase.com as suggested in the transcript. I can't speak what others are using but maybe we should make this clearer. --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 16:05, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Chicago? Bottom right corner.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Chicago averages around 12 days of 90+ and none over 100 per year (similar to New York) does not rank as being all that hot on a world scale  [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 18:47, 15 November 2017 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
: Wherever Chicago should go (and it's definitely in the lower right quadrant), it's weird that Randall didn't put it there. It's the USA's third-largest city and by far the biggest metropolitan area in the Midwest. How did Minneapolis make the cut if Chicago didn't? (No offense, Minnesotans.) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.250|108.162.216.250]] 23:33, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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My jimmies are really rustled by Randall using the puny american McMurdo station (record low of mere -51 centigrade) instead of the glorious russian Vostok station (record low -89 &amp;quot;steel shatters&amp;quot; centigrade). &lt;br /&gt;
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As a resident of Oregon, I vote for Portland being Portland, OR.  It is not only larger than Portland, Maine; it also more closely fits the mild climate that Randall seems to place it in on the graph.  An early settler wrote two letters back east:  The first, &amp;quot;Come live with me, there ain't no winter here&amp;quot;, the second six months later &amp;quot;Nevermind, there ain't no summer either&amp;quot; [[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 21:44, 15 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not convinced by the Humidex numbers (or possibly the calculation) for London.  It has the third highest value of 49.3, which according to the Wikipedia entry for Humidex, is &amp;quot;Dangerous; heat stroke quite possible&amp;quot;.  London can occasionally have some unpleasantly hot days in the summer, but generally (as the diagram implies) it's rarely too hot or too cold. --[[User:TimO|TimO]] ([[User talk:TimO|talk]]) 10:26, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're right - I think someone got their numbers out of sync when they were typing them in, there were several in the wrong place. Fixed now --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 13:38, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the Humidex right for Rio? It shows 48, but meaning it should have been one of the furthest to the right. But that's not where it was drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know whether or not that's correct, but it could be: That is a known problem with Humidex (note: it was invented in Canada and has not been adopted in many southern countries where heat and humidity is much larger). See: [http://ptaff.ca/humidex/?lang=en_CA an argument about wind chill and Humidex]. That value seems to be correct, as calculated by [http://www.physlink.com/Reference/Weather.cfm this site]. However, maybe there's multiple different equations to compute Humidex? [[User:Jeudi Violist|Jeudi Violist]] ([[User talk:Jeudi Violist|talk]]) 22:05, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperatures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For the low/high temperatures, should it be the average temperature of the coldest/hottest months or the average low/high of the coldest/hottest months?&lt;br /&gt;
The two are not the same, and you can get both from weatherbase.com.&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the data is already messed up. I highly doubt that Raleigh is the hottest place on earth. AFAIK, people live there, but I don't think anyone could survive between 50C and 70C all year round...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Dkasza|Dkasza]] ([[User talk:Dkasza|talk]]) 03:31, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hi Dkasza, thanks for the comment. I think the point of the original comic is to compare how hot it typically gets in summer - so the average high for the hottest month - with how cold it gets in winter - so the average low for the coldest month. That's what I went with - I think the average temperature for the hottest month isn't the best because it doesn't tell you ''how hot it gets'' (and similarly for cold). As for Raleigh, I think the data you mention must have been changed because it looks reasonable now - perhaps someone originally but the Fahrenheit values in by mistake? I've entered most of the data myself, but feel free to correct any errors! --[[User:AnotherAnonymous|AnotherAnonymous]] ([[User talk:AnotherAnonymous|talk]]) 14:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Intuitiveness ==&lt;br /&gt;
Comparing relative placements on the map with cities I've been to or lived in: All the ones I see on the chart make a very good fit for how I've known them. It's very well drawn. St. Louis and DC are definitely pinpoint accurate. Same goes for Toronto, Istanbul, and Santa Fe. Chart didn't include Cleveland, Ohio, so I'll tell you it falls right between Toronto and Sioux Falls in the lower middle range. &lt;br /&gt;
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As for equable climates of the upper left, keeping to moderate temperatures year-round, I have heard that a lot about Aruba and Kampala. I personally knew a colleague from Kampala who verified that: on the equator and elevation 1,190 m (3,900 ft), charted perhaps above Addis Ababa and left of Nairobi. Aruba I've heard is equable year-round, thanks to ocean breezes off the Caribbean. My parents have been there, but I haven't; it probably keeps company with Kampala. Kuala Lumpur would keep company in the upper right with HCM City and Singapore. Messina (my ancestral province) keeps company in the upper middle space with Santiago and Barcelona. Palermo would be closer to Santiago. Diggin how intuitive it is from the chart, without even looking at the data tables below. [[User:Johanna-Hypatia|Johanna-Hypatia]] ([[User talk:Johanna-Hypatia|talk]]) 23:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:878: Model Rail</title>
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&lt;div&gt;It IS possible to go smaller than one atom, but it tends to make a really bright flash and loud noise. The original atomic bomb was the second guy's reading of a train modeler's notes, miraculously preserved in a refrigerator. --[[Special:Contributions/68.200.188.141|68.200.188.141]] 03:37, 29 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Corrected HO to H0 --[[Special:Contributions/70.169.90.254|70.169.90.254]] 22:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I hate it when my model train layout gets crushed by a cold virus. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.150|199.27.128.150]] 23:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You mean your model model model model model train layout..  [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.195|141.101.99.195]] 20:39, 20 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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3.5mm per foot?  What kind of half-assed system is that??  It's an embarrassment.  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58|108.162.219.58]] 21:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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3.5 millimeters is due to the origins of HO scale.  It literally means &amp;quot;Half O&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;O&amp;quot; scale, now 1/4 inch per foot in the US, was 7 mm/foot in Britain, where the scales originated.  The debate over &amp;quot;HO&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;H0&amp;quot; comes from the same source, as &amp;quot;O&amp;quot; scale was originally labeled &amp;quot;0&amp;quot;, following the larger scales of 1, 2, 3, etc, used for toy trains in the early 20th century.  As for the name today, it's pronounced &amp;quot;Aitch-Oh&amp;quot; in most, if not all, of the world. {{unsigned ip|173.245.50.92}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:In Germany this scale is called &amp;quot;H-Null&amp;quot; (H for halb=half; Null=zero). So H0 is definitly correct there while HO is completly illogical. The HO can be used in english only because it is common to use O instead of saying zero, while this is uncommon in most other languages. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.101|141.101.104.101]] 09:49, 2 August 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;this discussion&amp;quot; link doesn't lead to the discussion in question. Please fix? Anonymous 17:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I can't see this. But a former add here is fixed, maybe this helps.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:14, 13 February 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The {{Tl|w}} does interpret the link target as the page name. So when linking to &amp;quot;Page?bar=foo&amp;quot; will not interpret the bar parameter. Additionally because there was a = in one parameter it treated everything before as the parameter name and everything after it as the parameter value. If the first problem wouldn't be a problem at least the first parameter would need to be defined as 1=…. I reverted that part to the old working version. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.109|108.162.254.109]] 13:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a [[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals#Merge_Cueball_.26_Rob|community portal discussion]] of what to call Cueball and what to do in case with more than one Cueball. I have added this comic to the Category:Multiple Cueballs. Since the one who knows the rule to me seems like the best candidate for a Cueball here, I have changed the transcript to make him Cueball. He has the interesting comments of this comic, so maybe it is OK to let him be listed as Cueball? On the other hand someone has previously done the opposite, proving that it is not possible to say that Cueball is any particular guy. But it is just easier to explain the transcript (and the comic) when calling one of them Cueball rather than guy 1 and 2 (left of right etc.)--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:11, 29 July 2015 (UTC)--&lt;br /&gt;
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The original width of the section of real world being modeled (18m * 87) works out to 1 mile. [[User:Johanna-Hypatia|Johanna-Hypatia]] ([[User talk:Johanna-Hypatia|talk]]) 21:15, 26 September 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:856: Trochee Fixation</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Johanna-Hypatia: By the shores of xkcd...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Bad advice mallard would like a word with you. '''[[User:Davidy22|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&amp;lt;font color=#070 size=3&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=#508 size=4&amp;gt;²²&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;[talk]&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 07:08, 17 April 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Cowboy&amp;quot; but no &amp;quot;Bebop&amp;quot;? (Also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop a real cartoon show], albeit an adult anime -- NOT FOR KIDS.)  I'm disappointed. --BigMal27 // [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.88|173.245.55.88]] 11:55, 18 June 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why... why does the little girl say &amp;quot;hooker&amp;quot; at the end of the comic? 13:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Why not? Perhaps she's seen some television cop shows which use the term. Or perhaps she likes rugby (it's the name of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union_positions#Hooker one of the playing positions]). [[User:Grutness|Grutness]] ([[User talk:Grutness|talk]]) 01:56, 26 July 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In particular I think the Neil Stephenson reference is to Snowcrash, where hackers are able to transmit a linguistic virus that disrupts speech patterns into what appears to be intense aphasia or glossolalia.  According to the science* of the book, a similair technique could be used to manipulate the brain in a variety of ways, including a 'trocheeotomy.' {{unsigned ip|199.27.133.57}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The current explanation mentions a reversal of the stress pattern at the end, but that doesn't happen.  As discussed in the comic, the girl has simply come up with a new list of trochees. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203|108.162.246.203]] 22:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Trochee is autological. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 8.8.8.8] 11:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel like the two words &amp;quot;raptor Jesus&amp;quot; could be a reference to the meme. 02:05, 4 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But what if you're fixated on three-syllable words? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.2.222|162.158.2.222]] 23:01, 28 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So trochees make her happy. So what? Why do we care SO MUCH that she stop saying those words and stop being happy? She likes it, why can't we deal with it? Would you want someone to surgically remove whatever makes you happy from YOUR brain? Leave her alone! {{unsigned ip|08.162.219.56}}&lt;br /&gt;
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We owe a major classic of American literature to the scourge of TF. It started in 19th-century Finland when Elias Lönnrot compiled the ''Kalevala'', whose trochaic meter is a very good fit for Finnish prosody, because of the consistent stress on the first syllable in every Finnish word, e.g. &amp;quot;Sukuvirttä suoltamahan, lajivirttä laulamahan.&amp;quot; Next Henry Wadsworth Longfellow read that and caught the trochee bug. Longfellow couldn't stop scratching that itch until he'd written the epic ''Song of Hiawatha'' in the same trochaic meter from the ''Kalevala''. I guess TF really is a thing, if Longfellow is any indication. [[User:Johanna-Hypatia|Johanna-Hypatia]] ([[User talk:Johanna-Hypatia|talk]]) 02:14, 30 July 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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