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		<title>3075: Anachronym Challenge</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: added 'cellulose' to modern sponge materials, changed 'mid' to 'early-to-mid' regarding tin foil's replacement by aluminum.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 3075&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = April 11, 2025&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Anachronym Challenge&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = anachronym_challenge_2x.png&lt;br /&gt;
| imagesize = 265x404px&lt;br /&gt;
| noexpand  = true&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = I have to pay with paper money.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|The table is incomplete.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Cueball]] is reading from a shopping list while shopping for groceries. The items on the list are all [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anachronym anachronyms]. The names of the items indicate their material, but they are no longer made from that material.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;margin-left:0px&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Item !! Actually made with !! What the name says !! Explanation&lt;br /&gt;
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| {{w|Aluminium foil| Tin foil}} || Aluminum || {{w|Tin}} || Formerly &amp;quot;tin foil&amp;quot; was made of the metal tin, but aluminum supplanted tin in the early-to-mid 20th century, as aluminum is cheaper and more durable.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Sponge (tool)| Sponges}}|| Polyester, polyurethane, cellulose || Marine invertebrates in the phylum Porifera, aka {{w|sea sponges}}. || An item commonly used in the kitchen to soak up water. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Cutlery | Silverware}} || Stainless steel || {{w|Silver}} || Common eating devices. Also often made of paper or plastic. Like tin foil, cutlery is traditionally made with sterling silver, but has been replaced by the cheaper stainless steel and now plastic.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Linens}} || Cotton, hemp, polyester || {{w|Flax}} || Commonly in the form of sheets and blankets. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Clothes iron | Clothes iron}} || Aluminum, stainless steel &amp;amp; plastics || {{w|Iron}} || Used as a tool to remove wrinkles in clothing by heating it up. Modern irons are powered, but traditional irons needed to be heated.&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Ironing board | Ironing board}} || Metal, fabric cover || Wooden board || Flat surface for ironing clothes.&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Corrective_lens#Reading_glasses|Reading glasses}} || Optical plastics || {{w|Glass}} || Used to assist farsighted people with focusing on things up close. Also traditionally made with glass, but nowadays made with CR-39 plastic due to glass's danger of shattering and higher weight.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Iron (golf)#Short irons|9 iron}} || Cast {{w|stainless steel}}, {{w|carbon steel}} || Iron || A type of golf club.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Wood (golf)| 3 wood}} || Titanium, carbon fiber || Wood || A type of golf club.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Sidewalk chalk | Sidewalk chalk}} || Calcium sulfate ({{w|gypsum}}) || {{w|Calcite}} chalk || Used for making marks on pavement or rocks. (e.g., for entertainment, for temporary signs or indicators). It could also refer to how sidewalk chalk is not made from sidewalks.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Rubber duck | Rubber duck}} || Vinyl plastics || {{w|Rubber}} || A children's bath toy. Also used in {{w|Friendly Floatees spill| science}} and {{w|Rubber duck debugging| programming}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Paper money | Paper money}} (title text) || Cotton, linen fibers (U.S. note), polypropylene || Paper || Money can be exchanged for goods and services.[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0701072/quotes/?item=qt3649835]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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Many of the objects listed on Cueball's shopping list can still be made with the materials that they are named after. Silverware can be made of sterling silver, especially in the cutlery of high-end establishments{{acn}}, but, unlike steel, traditional pure silver requires continued polishing to retain its finish. Cleaning sponges made of sea sponges are expensive, but can be purchased{{acn}}. Linens made from flax are still common{{acn}}. Some wood clubs are still made from wood, specifically {{w|persimmon}}. {{w|Banknotes of the Japanese yen}} are [https://www.npb.go.jp/en/products/intro/tokutyou.html still made] from wood pulp from ''E. chrysantha'' and abaca pulp. Most of the traditional items can be found in antique sales at least occasionally, and some people still use them such as in communities that have separated from modern industry.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Cueball is looking at a phone in his hand while holding his other hand on the handle of a shopping cart. Above the shopping cart, an underlined header and a bullet list are shown:]&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Shopping List&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:* Tin Foil&lt;br /&gt;
:* Sponges&lt;br /&gt;
:* Silverware&lt;br /&gt;
:* Linens&lt;br /&gt;
:* Iron &amp;amp; Ironing Board&lt;br /&gt;
:* Reading Glasses&lt;br /&gt;
:* 9 Iron and 3 Wood&lt;br /&gt;
:* Sidewalk Chalk&lt;br /&gt;
:* Rubber Duck&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Caption below the panel:]&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm trying to do a shopping trip where I only buy stuff that's no longer made from the material it's named after.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Language]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:3074: Push Notifications</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: &lt;/p&gt;
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So...this is the April Fool's comic, if I'm not mistaken... Oh ye of little faith! [[Special:Contributions/172.71.26.106|172.71.26.106]] 20:00, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I turned this on thinking it would just be a few every so often but I quickly realized how this is xkcd and it doesn't &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot;. I had to turn this off because it disrupted my schoolwork by popping up every fricking 5 minutes{{unsigned|Moss|20:22, 9 April 2025 (UTC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
: Personally, I'm disappointed by how long I have to wait between notifications. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.32|172.71.178.32]] 15:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently my employer (or ublock) is keeping me from experiencing the full effect of any notifications. All I get is &amp;quot;An *actual* error has occurred. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.173|162.158.91.173]] 20:52, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I'm confused too. I've tried Chrome and got nothing. I've tried Edge and got effectively nothing. I progressed one message further, but nothing showed up. No notifications, popups, or whatever. And I have never installed an add-on for Edge. Edge did give me access to the game over screen by disabling notifications, but when I tried to re-enable them, nothing happened.&lt;br /&gt;
:Is this a mobile-only thing? [[User:EebstertheGreat|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat|talk]]) 02:51, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm having the same issue. Firefox doesn't work, which I understand, but neither does Safari. I haven't gotten a single notification. [[User:Mushrooms|Mushrooms]] ([[User talk:Mushrooms|talk]]) 06:57, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Problem solved! Turns out I *was* getting notifications, I just wasn't seeing them. --[[User:Mushrooms|Mushrooms]] ([[User talk:Mushrooms|talk]]) 07:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What the heck are the &amp;quot;Zoom Notification&amp;quot; ones, with just a pair of numbers? Now that I've been sitting with this for a little bit, they're by far the most common notifications, and the most mysterious. What is &amp;quot;zoom&amp;quot;ing or should be zoomed-in-on or whatever, and what do the two numbers signify? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.22.75|172.68.22.75]] 20:35, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think they're coordinates. So far (x,y) has had x from 4 fo 73 (that I've seen) and y from 2 to 28. That gives a tad over 2000 possible combinations, but omething tells me there won't be more than 500 or so in total. Quite a few y=24 (not yet adjacent by x), and any given x has 0 to 3 different y partners (so far). They ''do'' repeat (I'm not recording how many times, but I'm scatterplotting what I get). The ones prefixed with &amp;quot;oh look!&amp;quot; are tightly clustered in x=6..13 and y=4..11, so far, with no non-&amp;quot;oh look!&amp;quot; ones there, so I'm plotting them in a different marker. I ''suspect'', after many many more Zoom Notifications, I'll be left with (enough of) a pixelated image's pixels (of two types, background colour excluded), or else I'm doing it wrong and I should be drawing lines between the dots, but I never managed to grab them all, so I'm relying on it being a random &amp;quot;spraygun droplets&amp;quot; sort of image-reveal. (Still some way to go...) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.241.66|172.71.241.66]] 23:08, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Also, Zoom is a video chat app, if you didn't know that. That's the joke. [[User:EebstertheGreat|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat|talk]]) 02:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;They're by far the most common&amp;quot; - not for me - I got a couple early on, and nothing since. All I'm getting now (apart from cat ones when I click a cat) is constant 'comment and subscribe' ones.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.28|172.71.178.28]] 16:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Last night, right from the start (well, as soon as I got around to going through the process, after I started this Talk page off), Zoom stuff was ''the'' most common. The messages would change as I was documenting them, they were more frequent than the &amp;quot;you have clicked N times&amp;quot; ones. This morning, on reconnecting (exactly how much &amp;quot;Push&amp;quot; there is to the Push Notifications, I don't know, I suspect it's more long-polling in the end), I have had zero new Zoom messages, the &amp;quot;clicked N times&amp;quot; had promoted itself to &amp;quot;click Nth away, N+1th pops up immediately&amp;quot; most of the time, with Constants and Leave A Message On This Random Wikitalk and Old Comic Published essentially, tying for next most frequent, except for when the occasional Cat Facts splurge gets mixed in (all this without re-viewing the comic-page's tab).&lt;br /&gt;
::Anyway, my &amp;quot;spraygun coordinates&amp;quot; list hasn't been expanded all today. I was wondering if its frequency had been reduced, server-side, ''because'' it was turning out to be the most polled (and/or pushed) bit of information... And that happened while I was asleep anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
::Whilst writing this, I only actually got three alerts... Old Comic, Erroneous Error and Have You Seen My Cat? No... now four, just had a Constant Reminder. Earlier today, I'd have had twice as many in merely a few seconds, at times. So maybe (effective) throttling back has happened across the board, one way or another. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.171|172.69.43.171]] 21:16, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Made a new page called [[3074: Push Notifications/Table of Notifications]], much like [[1506: xkcloud/List of Permalinks]]. I’m hoping that we can put all of the possible notifications into the table, along with any possible images that go along with it and an explanation (if necessary). '''[[User:42.book.addict|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:pink&amp;quot;&amp;gt;42.book.addict&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:42.book.addict|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#B1E4E3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk to me!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' 21:26, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it might be a good idea to make the table something more like source/name/notification, because there are chains of notifications where the name changes, like the How Many Times Can You Click This? notification. --[[User:Magicalus|Magicalus]] ([[User talk:Magicalus|talk]]) 23:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Might even want to track the URL that the notification leads to in the cases where it opens a new tab. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.142.57|172.71.142.57]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Did you mean a page much like [[1506:_xkcloud/List_of_Permalinks]]? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.175.171|162.158.175.171]] 01:25, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Weird, someone changed that. I just reverted it. --[[User:Jacky720|Jack]] ([[User talk:Jacky720|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Jacky720|c]]) 02:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, the user {{diff|371988|behind this change}} appears to have a keyboard-&amp;gt;leopard sort of autochanger active (for cloud-&amp;gt;butt) (unless they're deliberately doing it alongside deliberate changes to try to get it under the radar?)... I reverted something else they did, with the intention to check everything else (in Right Click's explanation) and unreverting the actually good changes. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.160|172.70.162.160]] 08:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's like herding LOLcats... anyone else remembering the Secretary arc about now? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.142.2|172.71.142.2]] 16:12, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I clicked on the silence notifications at a cost button a lot and it set Cueball's PC on fire?&lt;br /&gt;
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I found what is presumably the source code (?) of the comic through the transcript. It’s all JS pages. No idea what they mean (I’m not good with code), but I’m sure that there are some on here that can help dissect it. '''[[User:42.book.addict|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:pink&amp;quot;&amp;gt;42.book.addict&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:42.book.addict|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#B1E4E3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk to me!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' 21:50, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/manifest.json &lt;br /&gt;
:https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/js/42.4f5b21b3.js&lt;br /&gt;
:https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/js/index.js?v=1&lt;br /&gt;
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: I found this list of states in there, saved to the &amp;quot;iU&amp;quot; variable: intro, wordgame, gameover, biglaptop, boat, default, floating, longdesk, missing, nekotree, nekotree2, nekowater, nodesk, onfire, peek, shark, spinning, squirrel, squirreldesk, squirrelplant, standing, sword, tallchair, tentacle, water, wizard, bigplant, catchair, catonhead, compiling, floor, plant, reverse. Presumably, this is all the images we're looking for. I'll get back to you if I identify what chooses them or all their actual filepaths. --[[User:Jacky720|Jack]] ([[User talk:Jacky720|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Jacky720|c]]) 00:43, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I found more urls: &lt;br /&gt;
:https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/js/async/marconi-sw.e9d36d05.js&lt;br /&gt;
:https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/js/async/491.7b4e7556.js&lt;br /&gt;
:https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/js/async/491.7b4e7556.js --[[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.45|172.69.23.45]] 03:11, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a sneaking suspicion the Zoom Notifications are sketching out an image of some sort &lt;br /&gt;
(Update: after plotting like 60 of them no apparent pattern is to be found)  [[User:SkiesShaper|SkiesShaper]] ([[User talk:SkiesShaper|talk]]) 22:24, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I've plotted 397 and it seems to be forming some kind of animal. Maybe a cat, given the comic theme? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.35.119|172.68.35.119]] 23:24, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That could make sense yeah - there is definitely an organic sort of pattern emerging from the points I've been plotting out [[User:SkiesShaper|SkiesShaper]] ([[User talk:SkiesShaper|talk]]) 00:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure it's a turtle. I have 311 points so far and while it isn't clear, it looks like a turtle. [[User:IMW|IMW]] ([[User talk:IMW|talk]]) 01:51, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: After plotting more I think the &amp;quot;Oh look&amp;quot; coordinates help with drawing out a butterfly sitting on the left side of the turtle. [[User:IMW|IMW]] ([[User talk:IMW|talk]]) 03:36, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I also am seeing a turtle after graphing the non-“Oh look” ones (and flipping the image vertically). Could the “Zoom notifications” be a reference to [[1416: Pixels]], which is about “zooming” in on turtles? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.12.119|172.68.12.119]] 12:54, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Is it fractal? If you zoom in, is it turtles all the way down? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.186.43|172.68.186.43]] 14:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Once we have enough coordinates, someone should plot them and upload the image. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.142.56|172.71.142.56]] 23:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: when the image is saved, it appears to have a hex code as a file name. could be some other thing though [[User:Pncak|Pncak]] ([[User talk:Pncak|talk]]) 04:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently one of the notifications is: &amp;quot;The Earth is spinning at a rate of 1 rpd&amp;quot; This is true if you round it, but not exact. The time it takes to rotate is called a sidereal day, and there's one extra sidereal day a year. Basically, there's one solar day removed in a year, because the Earth's motion around the sun cancels it out. Think of it with a tidally locked planet. It spins around once a year, but the sun never moves. Really there's 1.0027379 rotations per day. [[User:DanielLC|DanielLC]] ([[User talk:DanielLC|talk]]) 23:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: then it is rotating at 1 revolution per ''sidereal'' day, which could still be written as 1 rpd [[User:Firestar233|guess who]] ([[User talk:Firestar233|if you desire conversing]] | [[Special:Contributions/Firestar233|what i have done]]) 05:23, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the most chaotic comic I've seen in a while. Part of me wants to keep notifications on to see what happens, and part of me wants to turn it all off and throw my phone in a lake [[User:Alcatraz ii|Alcatraz ii]] ([[User talk:Alcatraz ii|talk]]) 00:40, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am making a sheet with the cordinates: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133jGfOM6EVuEco4j2NumOAOv6pEealyZpbDoMkESXvs/edit?usp=sharing [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.81|108.162.216.81]] 01:31, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we start uploading different images? [[User:Firestar233|guess who]] ([[User talk:Firestar233|if you desire conversing]] | [[Special:Contributions/Firestar233|what i have done]]) 03:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: And should we create a new page for the images or put them all on the same page, like with umwelt. [[User:Firestar233|guess who]] ([[User talk:Firestar233|if you desire conversing]] | [[Special:Contributions/Firestar233|what i have done]]) 03:49, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Underneath the &amp;quot;Silence Notifications at a Cost&amp;quot; button, it says &amp;quot;Temporarily pause your notifications at the cost of notifying two random people&amp;quot;. Does anyone know how for how long notifications stay silenced, or if there is a way to &amp;quot;unsilence&amp;quot; notifications? Also, when I click on the cats they just disappear. [[User:PDesbeginner|PDesbeginner]] ([[User talk:PDesbeginner|talk]]) 04:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: When I click on the cats I get a push notification with a cat fact.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.127.58|172.70.127.58]] 05:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Just like any other button, you can click it really fast by clicking the button and then holding &amp;quot;enter&amp;quot; or spacebar. [[User:Firestar233|guess who]] ([[User talk:Firestar233|if you desire conversing]] | [[Special:Contributions/Firestar233|what i have done]]) 04:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone should probably comment on &amp;quot;April 1st (observed)&amp;quot;. I assume it's a reference to the fact that the comic is late? --[[User:Mushrooms|Mushrooms]] ([[User talk:Mushrooms|talk]]) 07:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Aye, as in: {{wiktionary|observed}} #2 [[Special:Contributions/172.71.26.43|172.71.26.43]] 08:02, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it morally wrong to spam the temporary silence button, just because I want to give other people notifications? [[User:Broseph|Broseph]] ([[User talk:Broseph|talk]]) 08:01, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Notifications are so 2024. Ever since Trump imposed the penguin tariffs, &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;dmesg&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; is where it's at. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.126|162.158.91.126]] 09:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally yay!! [[User:Aprilfoolsupdate!|Aprilfoolsupdate!]] ([[User talk:Aprilfoolsupdate!|talk]]) 10:28, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Where have ''you'' been? ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.160|172.71.178.160]] 10:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good, we don't have to hear you whine like a baby anymore [[Special:Contributions/172.70.100.202|172.70.100.202]] 18:54, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I got the file for &amp;quot;Cueball sitting at his desk, with a cat in the foreground near the point of view.&amp;quot;, what do I do to add it :⁾ [[User:Toby|Toby]] ([[User talk:Toby|talk]]) 13:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:upload it if you can (with the exact file name from imgs.xkcd.com), or copy paste the link here and someone else with uploading rights can upload it. the upload button should be under tools in the left side, under related changes and above special changes. or, you can click this [[Special:Upload|link]] '''[[User:42.book.addict|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:pink&amp;quot;&amp;gt;42.book.addict&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:42.book.addict|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#B1E4E3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk to me!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' 16:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you refresh the screen when a clickable cat is on it, it moves.  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.173|162.158.62.173]] 14:49, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I revieved two typos in two different notifications:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Or&amp;quot; is &amp;quot;r&amp;quot; in a message saying that it's confused whether is is fhe server or the client.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ratio&amp;quot; is &amp;quot;ration&amp;quot; in the message &amp;quot;At the tone, the Golden Ratio will be equal to one half of 1 plus SQRT(5)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
Does everyone get those typos? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.16|172.70.34.16]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know if they're typos or part of the humor.  Enjoy your golden ration.  :)  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.41|162.158.63.41]] 16:33, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not getting any notifications. I have three questions: 1) Does anyone know how long the &amp;quot;temporary silence&amp;quot; button lasts? 2) Does its effect last after you press the emergency stop button and re-subscribe to the nonsense? And 3) Is there just a problem with using Chrome? Thanks, [[User:Xnerkcd|Xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:49, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Update, the clickable cats are showing up but not doing anything&lt;br /&gt;
::They just sit there unless you refresh the screen.  Then they can change where they are.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.108|162.158.62.108]] 17:52, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The problem's fixed; my computer had notifications disabled :) [[User:Xnerkcd|Xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:56, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I was able to get one of the currently placeholder images but just made this account to add it, looks like i'm to new to upload it. Is there a good way to get the file to the community? Namely it's the flooded one with the Shark Fin.--[[User:ItemCrafting|ItemCrafting]] ([[User talk:ItemCrafting|talk]]) 19:40, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Links to both the Shark https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/a592ca.png and the Foreground Cat https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/cb0653.png .--[[User:ItemCrafting|ItemCrafting]] ([[User talk:ItemCrafting|talk]]) 20:23, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also Found: https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/3b9830.png Large Tree, Current version looks to be a broken link. --[[User:ItemCrafting|ItemCrafting]] ([[User talk:ItemCrafting|talk]]) 20:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: thanks [[User:Firestar233|guess who]] ([[User talk:Firestar233|if you desire conversing]] | [[Special:Contributions/Firestar233|what i have done]]) 21:20, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Here's the cat version of the tree: https://xkcd.com/3074/marconi/static/8eeb55.png [[User:Rerere284|Rerere284]] ([[User talk:Rerere284|talk]]) 01:10, 11 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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April fools comic!!! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - [[User:Bb777|me, hi]] ([[User talk:Bb777|talk]]) 21:27, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The cat image itself and the concept of cats appearing after leaving the page idle for some time are a reference to Neko Atsume --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.103.82|162.158.103.82]] 21:52, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The page doesn't work for me in Chrome on Google Plxel. I just get a image missing symbol. :( [[Special:Contributions/172.71.98.245|172.71.98.245]] 22:54, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same here -- the image loads initially and then real quickly it's replaced by the broken image. This happens using m.xkcd.com, but not the &amp;quot;desktop&amp;quot; site version. Chromebook with ChromeOS: Version 134.0.6998.183 (Official Build) (64-bit); also broken on Pixel 8 Pro, Android 15. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 23:10, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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My browser config doesn't allow sites to request push notifications, and the result is that once I reach the point of enabling them, the laptop immediately blows up. Is this worth mentioning in the summary? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.164.163|162.158.164.163]] 23:37, 10 April 2025 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Near the bottom of the current Transcript is the line, '[...something appeared then dissappeared...]'.  I saw this too, and on the third time through the game, I did a screen recording.  Two messages briefly appeared. [text and background in shades of red, all caps] &amp;quot;Error Sending Push Notifications&amp;quot; and [text in black, background grey, all caps] &amp;quot;OK, You Win. Setting Up Push Notifications. [2nd line] Just Remember, we tried to warn you.&amp;quot; [[User:Nekoninda|Nekoninda]] ([[User talk:Nekoninda|talk]])Nekoninda&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2818:_Circuit_Symbols&amp;diff=322113</id>
		<title>2818: Circuit Symbols</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: Describing another kind of sorting for the Baertty symbol and label.&lt;/p&gt;
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| number    = 2818&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = August 21, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Circuit Symbols&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = circuit_symbols_2x.png&lt;br /&gt;
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| titletext = A circle with an A in it means that the circuit has committed a sin and has been marked as punishment.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by a LOT of trolley problems in between overpasses built on top of pogo sticks, experiencing a couple of earthquakes. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
This comic contains several symbols used in circuit diagrams. Each is labeled with a larger object that the symbol looks like a drawing of, rather than the electrical component it actually represents. Randall has previously depicted distorted uses, depictions, and labelling of the standard US-form {{w|electronic symbol}}s in comics such as [[730: Circuit Diagram]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Symbol !! Randall's Description !! Explanation&lt;br /&gt;
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| {{w|Switch}} &lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Drawbridge}} &lt;br /&gt;
| The symbol represents a physical on/off {{w|switch}} in a circuit, but also resembles a {{w|drawbridge}}. A switch functions the exact same as a drawbridge, impeding electrons' flow when it is open. However, the purpose of a drawbridge is to allow crossing traffic that was impeded when the bridge was lowered, while an electric switch has no concept of crossing current.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Capacitor}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Overpass}}&lt;br /&gt;
| A {{w|capacitor}} is a component that can be used to hold electric charge, but the symbol for it looks a bit like a map depiction for a highway {{w|overpass}} of a main road passing over a more minor track. This may actually be referred to more as an {{w|Tunnel#Underpass|underpass}}, from the perspective of the lesser route, being not usually as obvious a feature when using the upper highway. Again, a capacitor has no concept of a crossing route.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Ground (electricity)|Ground}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Pogo Stick}}&lt;br /&gt;
| This symbol represents a connection to &amp;quot;{{w|Ground (electricity)|ground}}&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;earth&amp;quot;, the common baseline voltage ''or'' safe current sink for various circuits (e.g. against which an aerial signal can be compared). If the horizontal lines are taken as motion lines or a spring, it might look like a stylised {{w|pogo stick}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Resistor}} (ANSI)&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Earthquake}}&lt;br /&gt;
| A {{w|resistor}} is a component that reduces current flow in a circuit. There are two main symbols used: an IEC-style 'box' or, like here, the ANSI zig-zagged line. In this case, it also looks somewhat like the marks an earthquake makes on a seismograph and/or the 'rucks' of the ground (especially asphalt roads) that might result from underlying tectonic movements.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Inductor}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Sheep}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Inductor}}s create a magnetic field when current passes through them, and generally consist of a coil of wire, which the symbol reflects. The symbol seems in this case to be interpreted like the fluffy wool of a sheep.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Transformer}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Two sheep in love, trapped on opposite side of a fence.&lt;br /&gt;
| A {{w|transformer}} consists of two (or more) induction coils, for input and output(s), and a common core to mediate the transfer of power across the gap. The curly loop symbols of the symbol have already been claimed to resemble sheep, and the straight line (which is the core) now represents a fence separating two sheep who nonetheless wish to be together.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Electric battery|Battery}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Battery&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a joke, this is a typical symbol for a {{w|Electric battery|battery}}, or other form of {{w|voltaic pile}}. It's inclusion here is simply as the set-up for the following joke symbols.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Battery (sorted)&lt;br /&gt;
| Baertty&lt;br /&gt;
| Randall may have mapped the characters &amp;quot;tt&amp;quot; to the first short line and &amp;quot;er&amp;quot; to the following long line in the original symbol, having had &amp;quot;ba&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;y&amp;quot; assigned to the long and short &amp;quot;T&amp;quot; shapes that form the connections to the rest of the circuit. Rearranging the symbolic verticals as long-long-short-short, as he has done in this (fictional) symbol, thus puts &amp;quot;er&amp;quot; in front of &amp;quot;tt&amp;quot;. Another sorting paradigm is that, after the initial 'B', the remaining letters are arranged in alphabetical order, left to right.  Similarly, after the first horizontal line in the symbol, the other line segments are arranged by decreasing vertical height (left to right).  &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Battery, with far too many short lines&lt;br /&gt;
| Battttttttttttery&lt;br /&gt;
| The only other fictional symbol. Which, by the same established naming rules, means that the name is spelled with six &amp;quot;tt&amp;quot;s instead of just the single pair.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Photodiode}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Check out this really cool diode&lt;br /&gt;
| A {{w|photodiode}} generates, or allows to pass, a current in response to light. The symbol is related to the standard {{w|diode}} with the arrows pointing at it representing the light which activates its behaviour. In this case, Randall instead pretends that the arrows are pointing at it to draw attention to it because it's &amp;quot;really cool&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Electronic oscillator|Oscillator}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Wave Pool}}&lt;br /&gt;
| An {{w|Electronic oscillator|oscillator}} generates signals that oscillate at a given frequencies, for use in other circuitry, and one symbol used for one (in reality, built from a number of components in their own right) is this symbol. Waves in water are a type of oscillation that may be more familiar to most people than waves of electricity. A {{w|wave pool}} is in fact the ''result'' of a type of (mechanical) oscillator, and rarely has electricity running through it.{{Citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Transistor}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Trolley Problem&lt;br /&gt;
| A {{w|transistor}} will switch on current flow across one of a pair of connections, depending upon the input from an input one. Randall likens this to the ability to use points to switch the destination of a trolley from one track to another, as protagonists are invited to do in the various versions of the {{w|trolley problem}}. The symbol also somewhat resembles the usual pictorial depiction of the problem. However, transistors are not generally used to resolve ethical dilemmas.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Ammeter|A circle with an A}} [In the title text]&lt;br /&gt;
| The circuit has committed a sin and has been marked as punishment&lt;br /&gt;
| Circles with letters are usually some special components, as also with the oscillator's glyph. In this case the &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; stands for ammeter, a device used to measure {{w|electric current}} (an &amp;quot;{{w|ampere}} meter&amp;quot;). This is conflated with the practice of branding the 'guilty', or requiring them to display their crime for a period of penance. For example, in ''{{w|The Scarlet Letter}}'', a historical novel by {{w|Nathaniel Hawthorne}}, the protagonist must wear an ''A'' to mark her as an adulteress.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
:[A chart of various circuit symbols and their (mostly) fictitious meanings based off of their drawings, captioned:] Circuit Symbols&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a switch, labelled:] Drawbridge&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a capacitor, labelled:] Overpass&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a connection to ground, labelled:] Pogo Stick&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a resistor, labelled:] Earthquake&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for an inductor, labelled:] Sheep&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a transformer, labelled:] Two Sheep in Love, Trapped on Opposite Sides of a Fence&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a battery, labelled:] Battery&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a battery, sorted, labelled:] Baertty&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a battery, with far too many short lines, labelled:] Battttttttttttery&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a photodiode, labelled:] Check Out This Really Cool Diode&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for an oscillator, labelled:] Wave Pool&lt;br /&gt;
:[Symbol for a transistor, labelled:] Trolley Problem&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Engineering]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Charts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2815:_Car_Wash&amp;diff=320959</id>
		<title>Talk:2815: Car Wash</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: Answering the question about brushless carwashes.&lt;/p&gt;
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You know, I've ''never'' been in a carwash. Not even through a hand-wash (these days set up in just about every other ex-petrol(/'gas') station forecourt not redeveloped otherwise. Driven (or walked) right past them on the ways to places (my walk to the supermarket goes past a hand-car-wash, grocery store and tyre business in an ex-petrol station - then I wander past the autocarwash 'booth' at the supermarket-aligned fuelstop, perhaps through the jetwash lanes if nobody's using them), but never took a car to one. There's buckets and sponges/etc at home. Am I missing something? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.11|172.71.242.11]] 20:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The bucket and sponge method takes time and effort. Automatic car washes are quick and easy. I'm mostly indifferent to car washes, but I like them more than doing it by hand because I'm lazy. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 20:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm indifferent to car washes too. Five years later you just have to do it all over again [[User:Boatster|Boatster]] ([[User talk:Boatster|talk]]) 23:09, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and money for the carwash: Driving there (risking incidents), possible queuing to get into retail park, queuing to pay (£££s!), possible queuing for car wash, waiting for it to do its thing (risk of damage!), possible queuing to get out drive back (risking incidents, also normal road-grime)...&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've never gone out specifically to get my car washed. I'm usually out doing other things, I notice the car wash, and realize that my car is dirty, so I go in. And I can't recall ever having to wait more than 5 minutes on the line, usually there isn't any line at all. It's probably not a coincidence that several of the carwashes in my area are near supermarkets. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 17:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and money for home-wash: Don't need to leave home. Buckets are older than me, sponges/cloths/brushes may in some cases by younger than 50 years old (but all pre-millenium), car-wax/-shampoo bottle (used sparingly) is 5-10yo and nowhere near empty, water (with a water meter, so does cost) is perhaps equivalent to two days of (hand-!)dishwashing [possibly buying a home jet-washer could bring that down, if it &amp;quot;does a lot more with a fastly moving lesser amount&amp;quot;, but I might then also be tempted to jetwash the drive/windows/rooftiles as well and I'm not even sure it'd be less water through the nozzle as the tap] and (depending on time of year) may involve various mixes of hot and cold (so heating, though practically individible from other hot-water uses other than the kettle for drinks). Time taken: maybe 15 minutes (±5), at leisure while I appreciate all the distracting luxuries of home, or a highly abbreviated (one-bucket) washover/rinse at significantly less than 5 minutes (I'd still be trying to get into the supermarket, even with no queueueuing; perhaps I'd have been handwashed if ''they'' have no queue, but I wouldn't be back again...) and done. Maybe occasionally get the vacuum out and self-valet the insides, for another &amp;lt;5 minutes and probably entirely covered in electricity by what the solar panels have been feeding in during carwashing-friendly daytime conditions.&lt;br /&gt;
::Of course, it'll typically rain shortly afterwards (the rain-gods perhaps even being hopefully invoked by the very act of de-mudding the wheel-arches), but that's not going to differ between either (or neither) efforts to wash. :P [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.45|172.70.85.45]] 21:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What is the point of [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.45|172.70.85.45]]'s comment above? Is it trying to suggest that the time to self-wash is low? Or is it trying to suggest that it is high? (It is hard for me to tell, and definitely not clear!) I am under the general impression that hand-washing of cars, like hand-washing of dishes in the kitchen sink, consumes more water than automatic washing, in addition to the questions about pollutants that are raised below. [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 20:37, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Less time, I'd say. A bit of personal effort, but can be done at leisure rather than having to take time out (even 'in passing') from other activities.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I also don't trust the &amp;quot;hand washed dishes takes more water than dishwasher-washed&amp;quot; claim. It's quoted as something like 20 ''gallons'' of water for hand-washing. Couldn't work out if that's US gallons (75 litres) or imperial (90 litres), but a washing up bowl holds 8-10 litres ''full'' and you never really need to fill it to the brim (and it rarely needs to be above ⅓rd full) to do a good job even for a family meal's-worth of crockery and cutlery. Certainly not 7 to 10 bowls'-worth. (I'm guessing it assumes a continuously running tap for rinsing. If you need any rinsing, you just need a short spurt as necessary ''or'' being pre-rinsed under the tap as it third-fills up the bowl, at least in my experience. But only far more profligate methods can possibly reach 70-90 litres, mostly straight down the drain.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Typically quoted UK usage for dishwasher, however, seems to be around 9.5 litres (a full bowl's-worth, i.e. definitely more than a handwash as described). You also can't easily then use the 'grey' water, not-in-a-bowl, directly on some garden plants if you want. So getting double-duty out of it is trickier.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Not sure how much the car-washing bucket would be, but 20 litres seems to be capacity. Car-wash usages seem to be 120 litres (or greater), apparently less than home hosepipe/jetwash amounts, but (IME) I'd never use more than three (not full) buckets to wash even the dirtiest car. Perhaps two (wash and rinse, but the rinse being less full even than the not-full one that has the 'soap' in) or even just the one (rinsing it all, in one go, getting the top and windows nice with the 'fresh' water before working all the way round each level of possibly more mud-splashed bodywork, then hubcaps and wheel(-arches) last). 5 minutes? Yeah, if the car didn't need more than that rinse'n'shine. I'd set aside 10 minutes (non-continuous, if necessary, a bit at a time during TV ad-breaks perhaps) for a decent roof-to-wheels of a typical-sized family car. Can't speak for SUVs or other over-sized models. Much as I can't speak for wasteful hosepipe use or whatavyer... [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.166|172.71.178.166]] 22:46, 15 August 2023 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
:In Germany, you are discouraged and in many localities it's directly forbidden to wash your car on your premises; it is completely forbidden to wash your car on the street. This because of oil that will enter the sewer system. Automated car washes will recycle water and seperate oil from it. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.150.92|172.69.150.92]] 21:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oil? If I notice oil in(/on) the water, I know there's a problem. Maybe a little residue from cleaning inside the fuel-port hatch. The way some people (over)use detergent, I could see ''that'' being an issue, but if you've an oil-leak then that's happening on or off your premises (and mostly off), I'd have thought and you might ''never even know...'' if you don't even wash your own car. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.45|172.70.85.45]] 21:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I the only one who actually tried to find out whether baleen really used to be used in car washes or not?&lt;br /&gt;
: I added a quote on its use in the manufacture of brush bristles, although editing is needed. Next might be to figure out what vehicles were used in the 1800s and how they were washed. EDIT: https://academic.oup.com/liverpool-scholarship-online/book/43282/chapter-abstract/363026681?redirectedFrom=fulltext has a paragraph in google's cache that mentions that we can tell there was heavy use of baleen for brushes throughout the 1800s because of the heavy presence in museums. Maybe Randall's comment was inspired by a museum display. This seems possible because there's not much mention of this on the internet. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.185|162.158.154.185]] 01:34, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the fact that baleen is in whale mouths, so that's where Randall got the idea that the brushes are &amp;quot;licking&amp;quot; the car? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 17:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do people actually like car washes? It always seemed like an uncomfortable and at times terrifying experience to me. Maybe some people like it, but I would be very surprised if it's just me, Cueball and now Ponytail who don't like it. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.31|198.41.238.31]] 18:30, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I always thought they were fun and cozy, like being in a car during a rainstorm.  [[Special:Contributions/172.70.100.107|172.70.100.107]] 20:04, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Apart from queueing, I am not against car washes - happy to stay inside but not always I am allowed to. Kids do not like it. However, most times the only time I wash my car is when I have to take a flight: the parking lot where I usually leave the car provides optional car wash plus interior cleaning during the stop.  [[User:Vdm|Vdm]] ([[User talk:Vdm|talk]]) 19:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I like car washes. I love the feeling of being enclosed like that; it feels rather like our spring and summer rainstorms in the Pacific Northwest. I also have to do it more often than most; my car is painted in pearl white (not my choice, I got it used like that 3 years ago and it's 20 years old so no point in changing it now), which is a trilayer paint that shimmers and has slight bluish undertones. It shows every speck of dirt and mud, so I need to clean it or it looks really bad. (Tricoat 062 is the color code). [[User:Darkwolf0218|Darkwolf0218]] ([[User talk:Darkwolf0218|talk]]) 23:49, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The final line of the current explanation text is &amp;quot;Are there car washes without brushes?&amp;quot;  There are.  They use high-pressure streams of water, detergent, and possibly other chemicals.  The following links distinguish (sort of) between 'brushless' and 'touchless' car washes.  I don't know if this information has a place in the public-facing text.   https://www.wikimotors.org/what-is-a-touchless-car-wash.htm  https://www.wikimotors.org/what-is-a-brushless-car-wash.htm  [[User:Nekoninda|Nekoninda]] ([[User talk:Nekoninda|talk]]) 02:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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First [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 12:50, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To me the topological fields look like toilet seats  with three  more or less seashells. --[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Why is football on the two-hole field? Where are the holes? I don't think the goal posts in American football introduce any since they're not closed. Maybe it's soccer? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88|172.69.68.88]] 12:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it is because the goal posts extend into infinity and the topological definition of a hole: something you can draw a circle around that you cannot contract to a point. [the user placed a horizontal rule instead of a signature by accident.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, you might still be able to call them holes. They would be if they were fully rectangles. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Gridiron football's field contains two areas (the endzones) that can be thought of as not being part of the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; field of play, for lack of a better way of saying that pre-coffee. Association football likewise has the areas within the nets. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: My immediate thoughts were also that football (soccer) and football (gridiron) are the same, or indeed the other way round. In both cases the closed hole (assuming not a Y-like vertical holder, but H-like as per rugby football) plays no more or less topological part. Threading through the hole from behind has no relevence in either, and in fact defining it as a region that is 'a special enclosed gap with meaning' (which doesn't really matter in the topology sense, just like golf would be a topologically hole-less surface and as a coffee-cup's inside 'dimple' doesn't count, just its handle-hole that makes it equivalent to a doughnut) actually counts for something in association football. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It's not the space bounded by the goal that is the 'hole' - it's the goal post itself (or in the case of the high jump, it's the bar, not the space under it). The reason soccer doesn't have 'holes' where the goals are is that they're positioned on the edge of the playable area - you can't play around the bars, because as soon as you cross the goal line you're out of play. And it doesn't matter whether it's a Y-shaped or H-shaped goal - topologically, they both form one continuous 'hole'. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't think that's the reason why soccer doesn't have holes. The goalposts in football are also outside the playable area, and so are the poles in volleyball. I think soccer is listed as zero-holes because soccer goals are typically not fixed to the field, and are instead separate objects that can be dragged around and removed from the field. On the other hand, the same is true of volleyball and badminton nets (and those nets contain many holes!) so the comic seems a bit inconsistent.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146|172.70.175.146]] 14:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Speaking from a &amp;quot;football is soccer&amp;quot; nation (well, mostly, the exceptional subregions would argue that it's rugby) a soccer goal is typically ''not'' draggable around the field, but permanent (or a unit frame that has to be painstakingly hoisted out of the ground if you ''don't'' want them in your football stadium, when you repurpose it for other purposes) and it's only the optional net that gets added to the park's permanent goalposts for the official five-aside competition evening or day of the weekend. Draggable goalposts need a further level of intermediate organisation that goes beyond the typical &amp;quot;shipping container with windows cut in it (with shutters bolted over them) as a cheap changing room/officials' cabin&amp;quot; that might be found near the edge of the field but rarely even has as much as a corner flag left in them, between games&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I presume that US 'football' posts are considered holes because they are an infinitely-tall window (even though the delineating poles only reach so high) that is a meaningful slice (where the goal is, you have to loop around it in mutually different unsimplifiable paths to reach the other side), but then that should make for ''two'' holes per end, if you count getting a field-goal and then returning round the sides (or vice-versa) as another valid surface-path.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: ...but, yeah, I can imagine the problem of definition (and cultural famiarity) here is going to produce more problems even than the understanding of topology. One of the less internationally-accepted comics, this. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 18:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: O_O . Randall is united-statesian, so football means the thing where you tackle each other and hold the ball in your hands. I've never been into football, and I've always seen it with two large goal posts with a horizontal bar between them. The hole is formed under the horizontal bar. When I played football in computer games, you had to get the ball over the horizontal bar. After this, I'll search the web to see if the horizontal bar still exists. Regarding soccer, there aren't two holes because the nets are closed at the back. You cannot pass through the field structure by going through a goal: you bump into the net the ball bounces off of when a goal is made. So, Randall is considering soccer fields topologically equivalent to a plane (ignoring all the holes in the netting). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.229|172.70.114.229]] 14:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I looked up the goal thing and found that what I was imagining are called H-frame or H-style goal posts. Not the norm; the have two posts instead of one. I'm a weirdo that I thought they were what was up. But Randall could have been thinking of H-frame goals. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 15:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Many high school and amateur football fields still use H-frame goals. The resulting space can be used as a goal in some other sports. That does raise the question of why they didn't just have one field with lots of holes, and just plug the ones up that aren't needed for the sport being played. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tetherball, in many variants, does contain an obstruction -- the pole, which you're not allowed to touch. The Topology Department is getting tired of having to switch out the fields. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But you can surely jump over it, so it's topologically the same as a zero-height pole... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Tetherball does not have a *hole*. The pole, rope, and ball are just a stretched out bit of the continuous surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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Croquet has six hoops and a peg. How does that make for nine holes? Is it including the opponents' two balls as holes? And if so, why aren't opposing players counted as holes in the other sports? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquet#Nine-wicket] 'Nine-wicket croquet, sometimes called &amp;quot;backyard croquet&amp;quot;, is played mainly in Canada and the United States, and is the game most recreational players in those countries call simply &amp;quot;croquet&amp;quot;.' (Wikipedia) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 18:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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American football goals are Y-shaped. Rugby goals are H-shaped. Did... did Randall get those confused? Also, I fail to see how basketball and American football get two, croquet gets a bunch, but soccer gets zero. Aren't soccer goals (in-game at least) basically the same shape as croquet wickets, just waaaay bigger? Granted, I don't know anything about topology and I came to this wiki specifically cuz I'm dumb, so I'd love if someone could splain this all for me ;) --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.170|172.69.69.170]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The soccer goal has a net, so the ball can't go through it. Topologically it's just a wall (Randall seems to be ignoring all the tiny holes in netting, presumaby because they're smaller than the balls so they're insignificant to the sports). [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with that explanation - the net is the only thing that makes the soccer field not to have holes. It should be included in the comic explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
::The hole for the volleyball only makes sense taking in account that the bottom of the net doesn't reach the floor, although this space is not used in the game.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree about soccer; the explanation should be that soccer goals (with net) are topologically part of the plane. The same is true of ice hockey, even though you can travel &amp;quot;around&amp;quot; the net, it is topologically part of the field with no holes. As for (American) football, the topology only makes sense for H-shaped goals, which are more often seen on primary/secondary play fields than in higher level play. [[User:Aramisuvla|Aramisuvla]] ([[User talk:Aramisuvla|talk]]) 16:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. Soccer goals are shaped such that their bottoms connect smoothly to the ground in a single continuous piece. So they are topologically equivalent to the plane. This wouldn't be the case if not for the back part holding the net. That's unlike basketball hoops, which are actual holes. The holes in football must be referring to the H-shaped uprights that were standard until 1967 in professional leagues and are still seen in some high school fields and even a couple college fields. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.128|172.70.131.128]] 03:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::EDIT: I should point out that the net actually has, like, hundreds of holes. But I think the net here is being treated as a continuous sheet. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 03:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I mentioned all the little holes in the net in my comment that you're replying to. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The group link pointing to group (mathematics) doesn't bear any relation with the sentence or the comic. I would remove the link.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The joke seems important to me because their no consideration of the word 'field' being a math pun, and it raises the idea in readers. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.74|162.158.79.74]] 15:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:When I first saw the comic title I assumed that part of the joke would be a pun on the word &amp;quot;field&amp;quot; being used for both sports and math. And even though the comic doesn't explicitly make this joke, I'll bet it inspired Randall. It's worth mentioning. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In rugby (both League and Union) the goalposts are within the field of play: significant game activity takes place behind them. This is not the case with soccer. I have no clue what difference this makes topologically.{{unsigned ip|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been thinking about this classification system, and can't quite work out the baseline for it. I think we're supposed to assume that the whole 3d manifold is represented in a 2d 'field', or at least any path through the air flattened to an arbitrarily thin surface 'bulge' during topological rationalisation. But there are several possible field-of-play definitions we can be using...&lt;br /&gt;
* A single valid 'play' or traversal&lt;br /&gt;
** For ball-sports (or indeed other play-objects) this could be where the item can travel. But in this case I think almost 'all' codes of football are Type 1 (first of the topologies) as almost every football code deals with both 'goal' and 'endzone' (where valid) as the same as a hole (dimple) in golf... It goes into it and it might as well come out of it again, there's no continuation of play 'through the defined' space, and so the topological hole (the barrier defined the scoring membrane's edge) never comes into play.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Unlike in Gridiron, where a touchdown doesn't even need the 'ball' to touch the ground, rugby (league and/or union, and possibly further derivatives) requires this and a player can fail to score a Try if (s)he passes bodily over the line but is unable to plant the ball (not allowed to throw/drop it) and I'd have to check what happens if the defending player(s) keeping them sufficiently off the ground (assuming that's done in an allowable fashion) returns the intended scorer back over the line via a circuitous route around /back-through the suspended goal-mouth (above the cross-bar, between the verticals)... They keep changing those kinds of technical rules, so I can't be sure of the current technicalities involved.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Likewise, a volleyball or shuttlecock that passes under the net-top-edge is out of play, so it is really a Type 1 under this definition. (Might as well be a solid barrier, floor-to-top-height, rather than a thin bar or a partial net.)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;The basketball case is interesting. Although a dunk ends the play of the ball, I'm not sure if the path of a ball ''up'' through the hoop does not. In that circumstance I could believe it is a Type 3 case, but if that's a game-stopping thing then Type 1.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Croquet is indeed a varying number of paths through (I ''think'') an unordered set of holes, or at least nothing to say that they can be taken out of order (or 'un-passed-through'), and you can't necessarily restrict a 'play' to one shot at a time if certain conditions allow you to play on, so dodging in and around all scoring zones defined by the hoops gives you something like.&lt;br /&gt;
** For player/competitor/participant movement, similarly passing under the bar is not valid for the High Jump.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I don't think there's anything to stop such transitions upon the Parallel Bars, but it is much more a feature of the ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars, whereas from what I've seen of the sport, the even-variety tends to be topologically used much as the pommel-horse.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Players of football (American variations certainly, rugby of course, proper football if you don't bother with the nets) are not restricted from passing through the scoring area (either way) on a circuitous path that may be off the field of play but isn't off the field ''of players''.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;For the Olympic Swimming, I'm not suring porpoising over and under the lane-delineations is a thing, so I would have said that (under this definition), it should be a number of entirely disconnected Type 1 'zones', with no valid movement between them at all.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;So far as I'm aware, there are no rules for/against croquet ''players'' passing through hoops (intentionally or perhaps because they severely annoyed an opponent) so maybe that stands in this case, too. Ditto for basketball, if hoisted. Although in both cases it may prevent the balls passing through immediately afterwards, without game-stoppage to resolve the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
* If it's a game's-worth of play, then the status of the basket in basketball (unlike the pocket in snooker/pool/some-versions-of-billards) might be defined by the topological-hole-that-is-the-physical-hole's-edge, rather than treat it as the old basket-with-bottom from which the precusor to the net-ring almost immediately evolved. And the same could be said about the suspended scoring-hole (whether supported as Y-post or an H-post, the lower limb(s) are merely physical necessities that play little part in the gameplay specifics except as a general hazard to avoid, it is the crossbar and verticals-to-infinity (and the infinity itself) that is the gap through which a circular path cannot be rationalised back to a point). For most of the rest (including the participant-paths, with there being nothing to stop the traversal of a footballer of whatever stripe jumping the cross-bar, but that may only mean something in the topology of some variations, as far as the game is concerned...) it seems meaningless. Even in an Aussie Rules field with four 'posts' per end, and probably more interest in whether jumping onto an opposing player is against the rules or indeed an entirely legitimate and expected tactic.&lt;br /&gt;
* The general arena-wide area is a further superset (perhaps with no additional complications, i.e. exactly congruent) of the field-of-play(er) definition. For coin-operated table-top games (foosball/table-football) the path from each goal may (additionally to any on-top topological loop-disconnections) force passage of the ball underneath and out into the new-play insertion spot. So add a couple more (unidirectional) paths, at least. Or six for a coin-operated pool/etc table, and I assume the Skeeball (not something I'm familar with, at least by that name) is defined that way already...&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I found I needed to say a lot more than I thought I did, so the first point (and sub-points) went on a bit and I cut down what I might have said for the following points. I may come back to re-edit this. I've got a handy little table, in mind, but I'm not sure it'll work much better to summarise everything I've been cogitating about for most of today while away from the keyboard... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;hole&amp;quot; in the goalpost in American football is relevant for field goals, not touchdowns. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm not sure it's relevent for either. The field-goal passes over the crossbar and between (but also maybe above) the raised verticles, but that route is topologically the same as one above the crossbar but wide, which is in turn the same as one rolling along the ground and wide... Or indeed carried across just like most touchdowns (any that isn't run through the middle of the H-post', un-netted but otherwise soccer-like 'goalmouth' lower section).&lt;br /&gt;
::Possibly running around the post(s) that support the field-goal defining beams counts as the path around the topological hole because any change to that route that attempts to transform it to a useless loop within the main field of play must either (at some point) pass through the support for the crossbar or else wholly through the region that defines (in one direction, at least) the goal-scoring area. Can anyone get Word Of God in his intentions, here? It looks weird, to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 03:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As has been alluded to, this must be an American university's topology department. A rest-of-the-world university would include four holes for cricket. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 17:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is my (not yet properly tabularised, or properly wikimedialinked) idea of all the kinds of information I'd suggest go in there.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;But it's a monstrocity and I don't want to remove the very useful existing information already in the Explanation (that may even be better/more accurate than my interpretation).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;...so here it is for review. If anything in it is useful to anybody else as inspiration for future edits then... well, your choice!&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path looping around this area can be moved at will and shrunk to just one point that could result from any other path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with no other notable features.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The playing area for baseball contains many important physical features for scoring and playing purposes, but is essentially one flat area (and continuous airspace) when you disregard the elevation of the pitcher's mound or even the outfield fence  and stands (for any ball that carries that far, upon being hit).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall explicitly classes this in the Type 1 diagram, and there isn't any obvious reason to argue this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Association Football (&amp;quot;'''Soccer''''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Football&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstruted rectangular playing area with a goal formed of two vertical posts connected between the tops by a crossbar. In official competition (and where otherwise desired) there is a net stretched behind each goalmouth to stop any ball that passes completely through it (with or without hitting any of the posts), although games can be played with no net in place, or in street/schoolyard situations by goals defined only as a goalpost-like markings painted upon a solid wall (hitting the  wall within the bounds of the painted line constitutes a goal, give or take arguments about whether it counts if it hit the line).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 1 (a single unobstructed zone), which is likely due to the 'pocket' of the net-backed goalmouth being nothing more than a straight extension of the playing area.&lt;br /&gt;
 However, an un-netted set of goalposts might be considered a Type 3, with each set of goalposts defining an impassible frame (the hole in the topology, ''not'' the same thing as the physical hole formed by the goal-frame) within which the balls can freely pass and return ''not'' through the goalmouth, or vice-versa.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A ball attached to a cord anchored at the tip of a pole that is in turn stuck in the ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Although the mechanism used to allow free swivelling of the tether around the pole may be quite complex (including being looped around a helical thread to help register how many excess orbits of the pole the ball has made in either direction), the basic premise can be simplified to a single extrusion from the playing area, which is topologically identical to a playing area with no extrusion at all. Thus Randall properly states this as a Type 1 variant.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A volleyball court consists of a flat area disected by a raised net in the centre. Valid shots pass over the net, but it is possible for the ball (or players) to pass between the net and the floor.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall lists this under the Type 2 diagram. An argument can be made that the net could effectively reach to the ground, or questions asked about anchoring the net top/bottom to the posts at either side with separate straps (adding left and right 'passages' between the elements of the obstacle that is the net) but he clearly intends the loop around the hole to represent the ability to passing over the net one way and under the net the other (or vice-versa) as a topologically irreducible loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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 As with Volleyball, Randall feels justified in this being classed as a Class 2, having similar reasons for this as well as possible arguments against.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A bar supported at height between two supports. The idea is to successfully pass over the bar (without knocking it off, the bar being only supported to the supports, not firmly attached to them), although a competitor who decides to abort their attempt mid-run might well choose to pass underneath to default the attempt with the least physical and organisational aftermath.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With an 'above' and 'below' path to potentially loop around (though not in a single jump), Randall chooses to ascribe this as a Type 2. If a competitor displaces the bar, during a failed jump, it can morph the topology into a Type 1 scenario&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 3 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around one ot other ''or both'' of the holes in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with two holes in it, towards each end.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Basketball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Played upon a court, at each end of which is a tall pole (or supporting wall or other structure) from which a 'basket' is projected over the playing area. The earliest baskets were an actual closed-bottom basket, but this required climbing up to retrieve balls successfully landed within them. By removing the bottoms of the baskets and, later, using just a hoop (with or without a bottomless net). Points are scored by sending the ball through the basket-loop ''from above'', to be retrieved for further play as it exits below.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topologically, the edge of each loop is directly connected to the ground, so it can be smplified as a two-hole Type 3 field (the hole in the field is the impassible rim in the basket-loop). This does not preserve the orientation (or intended unidirectional nature) of the basketball-shot, but this is Topology's fault, not Randall's!&lt;br /&gt;
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 American/Canadian Football (&amp;quot;Gridiron&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;'''Football'''&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 A unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'Endzones' at each end. Goalposts are either of an &amp;quot;H&amp;quot; shape or essentially a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot; (crossbar, upper verticals and a single utilitarian post, usually set back beyond normal playing area with an extension over to hold the crossbar directly over the goal-line. The verticals are tall but are also conceptually projected upwards without limit, for scoring purposes, should a field-goal/etc be kicked high enough to exceed the structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 3 (a topological hole at each end of the field), which ''may'' represent the bound surrounding the elevated goal-scoring area. Alternately it represents the physical structure of the H-shaped posts which rationalise down to the open-backed ground-touching goalpost footings and the crossbar.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Parallel Bars''' or perhaps ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Parallel Bars are two horizontal bars supported at roughly hand-height, upon which a gymnast will perform various hand-supported feats strength and coordination. The participant will not usually fully use the space beneath either bar (and between the two supports for the bar), but a  will needs the opportunity to grip fully around the bar, especially when the other hand is released for a complicated body movement and it would be impractical or a different discipline entirely to used a 'filled' bar-support.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Uneven Parallel Bars are two similarly supported bars but at two different (and greater) heights, with the performance being generally that of keeping the grip of both hands (or knees/etc) on either one or other of the bars whilst rotating around its axis, when not actively transfering across between the bars themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Effectively two loops (as per basketball hoops but in a different orientation and scale). The Type 3 topology suggested by Randall is more meaningful for the use of Uneven Parallel Bars, but is probably applicable to the 'even' version in its own way.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around at least one (and possibly several) of the nine holes in this topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with nine small holes dotted into it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Olympic Swimming'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 In competitive swimming, a swimming pool is often delineated into lanes (for Olympic purposes, Lane 0 to Lane 9, though usually not all will be used) by floating barriers and other markings. These provide a limited amount of wave-reduction but mostly keep competitors from inadvertently drifting across or into each others' paths.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall considers this setup to require nine 'holes' in the competition area, presumably where the floats pass along the surface of the water, to make a Type 4 field of competition. He must then consider it perfectly possible for competitors to pass under ''or over'' these barriers, at will, with complete disregard for the usual competition (and risking disqualification). Otherwise, it might be best considered as (up to) ten ''separate'' Type 1 arenas, with just one swimmer in each.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Croquet'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A game in which a number of metal hoops are placed in the ground such that a given number of players (or teams of players) must each propel their own ball(s), and possibly those of their opponents, through each loop either directly with their own mallet or through contact between balls.&lt;br /&gt;
 Many variations exist with differing numbers of hoops and variations of rules and winning conditions. Randall appears to favour the &amp;quot;Nine-wicket Croquet&amp;quot; popular to North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The topological simplification of nine hoops across a flat surface can be thought of as the Type 4 topology displayed.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Table Football (&amp;quot;'''Foosball'''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Table Soccer&amp;quot;) - as per title-text&lt;br /&gt;
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 An enclosed playing surface with (typically) eight rotatable and extendable bars supporting representative (soccer) 'footballer' figures, ready to strike a small ball across the surface, as might be desired by the two or more opposing players who are each able to control the movements of half of the 'bars' (each team's-worth having a goalkeeper, defence, midfield and attacking 'layer'). By skill and/or luck, the aim is to propel the ball into the opposing's player's goal.&lt;br /&gt;
 On coin-operated games, often the playing area is usually sealed off from direct manual interference, and a ball that goes into the goalmouth finds itself in a lower chamber that stores the ball(s) and deposits them via some feed to carry the ball back up and 'thrown in' towards the centre of the table to start the next attempt at goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With eight bars across, and potentially two goalmouth sinks, this may not actually add up to a nine-hole Type 4 field of play. But presumably Randall is thinking of a version that does.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Skee-Ball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 An arcade game in which a ball is propelled by the player to land in (according to skill) one of various holes in a target-ridden surface (to return back to the player for another go).&lt;br /&gt;
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 It would depend upon the exact confuguration of Skee-Ball machine but, again, Randall seems to think this matches the Type 4 topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Further (football) examples, unmentioned&lt;br /&gt;
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 Australian Rules Football ('Aussie Rules'&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed oval field with four simple vertical posts upon the perimiter arcs at each end.&lt;br /&gt;
 The ball passing between the (taller) central pair of each end's posts (projected upwards indefinitely) is a Goal. Passing between the outer posts and the adjacent central one (or bouncing off these) is a Behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Type 1 if the protruding poles are rationalised to zero, without respect to scoring zones. Four ''or perhaps six'' topological holes (two or three per end) if respecting the imaginary projections indefinitely upwards for scoring purposes, depending upon if you care about chirality of the ball path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Gaelic football ('Gaelic') - fields also used for Hurling&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular field with an H-shaped set of goalposts at each end, the area below the crossbar often being netted, while the upper verticals being nominally considered as projecting upwards without limit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Valid balls sent over the crossbar and between the verticals are awarded Points; those sent into the netted goalmouth are Goals (equivalent to three Points for scoring purposes).&lt;br /&gt;
 There is no in-play use of the area behind the line of the goalposts, unlike various other football codes with similar-looking posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'In Goal' areas continuing on behind the 'Try Line' upon which the H-shaped goalposts sit.&lt;br /&gt;
 The field of play extends into this area, the lower parts of the vertical posts play no purpose other than to hold the upper elements in the air. A 'Try' (roughly equivalent to a Touchdown) can be scored by placing the ball somewhere over the line or by touching the base of the (often padded) posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 The cross-bar and the verticals upwards of it (towards and bounded at infinity) count as the hard boundary of a scoring area for &amp;quot;conversions&amp;quot; (taken immediately after a try) and other kicks (penalties and drop-goals).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Might be treated as Type 3 (two holes), unless concerned about whether balls kicked through the goals or taking across the try line weave back one or other side of, or between, the lower vertical posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 Alternately, is a Type 3 for the lower (not more special for scoring than any adjacent lower area) frames, while the open tops (meaningful for scoring purposes) rationalise as topologically irrelevent.&lt;br /&gt;
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(TL;DR; - It's too long, you may not want to read it...) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.213|162.158.34.213]] 21:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The extended discussion in the explanation about the issues with &amp;quot;two-holes for football&amp;quot; goes away if the goals are the H-shaped kind rather then the Y-shaped kind.  Since the comic specifically states that these fields belong to the Topology Department - and are NOT generalized across all sports fields - then we can use the &amp;quot;two hole&amp;quot; information to deduce that the department's fields have the H-shaped kind...which solves 100% of the confusion and eliminates the long (and excessively intricate) digression about other weird forms of &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; with different topologies. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 13:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this really explainxkcd? Asking since I don't see the obvious stated anywhere. Hell, '''the obvious question and last statement of the image isn't even addressed'''. Why does no one ever want to use the topology department's athletic fields? Its a mystery right? Whats wrong with a soccer field that has a topology like that? It make detecting when the ball crossed the line so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how has no one talked about the geographic/field topology that the last question implies along with the obvious reprecusions (ball roll down hill. stuck in middle. habing to climb. tripping in holes and breaking legs)? Why is everything so freaking high level here? '''Where the hell is the explanation of the joke's? Something is terribly wrong!''' [[Special:Contributions/172.71.82.81|172.71.82.81]] 17:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: One of the more serious problems with explainxkcd is the well-known phenomenon that explaining a joke often kills the humor.  So, quite often, in the course of fully explaining the cartoon - we do indeed shred the actual humor into tiny, tiny fragments.   However, we're here to explain it - and that's that.&lt;br /&gt;
: I guess the joke is that the topology department are so obsessed with the topological shape of their sport's fields that they have lost the shape and dimensions of the fields - and thereby made them useless for playing actual sports on.&lt;br /&gt;
: Two fields that are topologically equivalent are not necessarily capable of being used for playing multiple sports.  Swimming on a croquet field - or playing croquet in a swimming pool does not work.  [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.199|172.69.71.199]] 18:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The goal is to explain the joke in '''laymans terms''' yaknow, &amp;quot;because your dumb&amp;quot;. Since the joke is missed by those outside the fields and don't know how definitions of terms differ in different fields and whatnot. Its the whole purpose. The thing above explains nothing in laymans terms. There is no joke. All there is is an explanation on how field theory and topolgy work and then why the resulting images make sense. Nothing on why this is supposed to be funny. The one thing we actually have to explain at minimum. The joke seems to be that this field which is created for the reasons already described is the actual field we would play on (something completly unaddressed in the explanation above). This could be dangerous with those holes (also unaddressed). And then there is the unadressed question of is this a raised plot of land thats been cut out, or is this all that exist, and kicking the ball off field or falling in a hole goes into a void. This needs to be an explanation for people who are much, much, much dumber. We are not supposed to be explaining field theory, just enough of it to get the joke [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.124|162.158.187.124]] 18:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wondering if any topologists understand American football, and if any football fans understand topology.  I am a football fan who doesn't understand topology.  As requested before, I would like to understand why there is any topological difference in analyzing the American football gameplay and playing field, between H-shaped and Y-shaped goals.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The field-goal-space is functionally a rectangle above the crossbar, and the width between the uprights, but of undefined height, in both the H and Y cases.  It is directly above the back line of the endzone for pro and for college football.  The one or two supports for the crossbar are irrelevant to gameplay.  All supports below the bar would be eliminated, if the engineering problem could be solved.  Why does the existence of one vs. two engineering kludges make a critical difference in the number of topological holes?  &lt;br /&gt;
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The endzone, that is, all of the space on the playing field (grass) in front of, and on either side of the goalposts is valid and legal for every player and for the ball on every play, potentially with scoring implications at the termination of the play.  Note that the goal posts for pro football were at one time at the back of the endzone, then from 1933 to 1974, on the goal line, and since 1974, at the back of the endzone again.  NCAA/college football has had the goalposts at the back of the endzone since 1927.  &lt;br /&gt;
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All of the space above the grass, above the endzone, both under and above the height of the horizontal crossbar, are also legal and valid for play by the players and by the ball on every play.  In one case, a play involving a legally kicked field goal, the space above the crossbar and between the uprights, has scoring significance.  A field goal has the same name and the same general mechanics in basketball and in American football.  In neither case do the engineering contrivances supporting and suspending the goal rectangle (football) or circle (basketball) play a conceptual role in the gameplay.  Why, then, do the topologists here in the discussion treat football and basketball differently, and why are H-shaped and Y-shaped goals in football not equivalent?  Randall counts both basketball and football as 'two-holers', but the current public Expain xkcd text says that he is wrong for pro and college football.  So far as I can tell, pro and college football have both used the Y-goal since 1974 or before.  The Y-support for the goalposts is 6.5 feet behind the back of the endzone, and completely outside of the playing field.  I look forward to learning something.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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First [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 12:50, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To me the topological fields look like toilet seats  with three  more or less seashells. --[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Why is football on the two-hole field? Where are the holes? I don't think the goal posts in American football introduce any since they're not closed. Maybe it's soccer? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88|172.69.68.88]] 12:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it is because the goal posts extend into infinity and the topological definition of a hole: something you can draw a circle around that you cannot contract to a point. [the user placed a horizontal rule instead of a signature by accident.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, you might still be able to call them holes. They would be if they were fully rectangles. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Gridiron football's field contains two areas (the endzones) that can be thought of as not being part of the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; field of play, for lack of a better way of saying that pre-coffee. Association football likewise has the areas within the nets. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: My immediate thoughts were also that football (soccer) and football (gridiron) are the same, or indeed the other way round. In both cases the closed hole (assuming not a Y-like vertical holder, but H-like as per rugby football) plays no more or less topological part. Threading through the hole from behind has no relevence in either, and in fact defining it as a region that is 'a special enclosed gap with meaning' (which doesn't really matter in the topology sense, just like golf would be a topologically hole-less surface and as a coffee-cup's inside 'dimple' doesn't count, just its handle-hole that makes it equivalent to a doughnut) actually counts for something in association football. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It's not the space bounded by the goal that is the 'hole' - it's the goal post itself (or in the case of the high jump, it's the bar, not the space under it). The reason soccer doesn't have 'holes' where the goals are is that they're positioned on the edge of the playable area - you can't play around the bars, because as soon as you cross the goal line you're out of play. And it doesn't matter whether it's a Y-shaped or H-shaped goal - topologically, they both form one continuous 'hole'. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't think that's the reason why soccer doesn't have holes. The goalposts in football are also outside the playable area, and so are the poles in volleyball. I think soccer is listed as zero-holes because soccer goals are typically not fixed to the field, and are instead separate objects that can be dragged around and removed from the field. On the other hand, the same is true of volleyball and badminton nets (and those nets contain many holes!) so the comic seems a bit inconsistent.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146|172.70.175.146]] 14:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Speaking from a &amp;quot;football is soccer&amp;quot; nation (well, mostly, the exceptional subregions would argue that it's rugby) a soccer goal is typically ''not'' draggable around the field, but permanent (or a unit frame that has to be painstakingly hoisted out of the ground if you ''don't'' want them in your football stadium, when you repurpose it for other purposes) and it's only the optional net that gets added to the park's permanent goalposts for the official five-aside competition evening or day of the weekend. Draggable goalposts need a further level of intermediate organisation that goes beyond the typical &amp;quot;shipping container with windows cut in it (with shutters bolted over them) as a cheap changing room/officials' cabin&amp;quot; that might be found near the edge of the field but rarely even has as much as a corner flag left in them, between games&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I presume that US 'football' posts are considered holes because they are an infinitely-tall window (even though the delineating poles only reach so high) that is a meaningful slice (where the goal is, you have to loop around it in mutually different unsimplifiable paths to reach the other side), but then that should make for ''two'' holes per end, if you count getting a field-goal and then returning round the sides (or vice-versa) as another valid surface-path.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: ...but, yeah, I can imagine the problem of definition (and cultural famiarity) here is going to produce more problems even than the understanding of topology. One of the less internationally-accepted comics, this. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 18:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: O_O . Randall is united-statesian, so football means the thing where you tackle each other and hold the ball in your hands. I've never been into football, and I've always seen it with two large goal posts with a horizontal bar between them. The hole is formed under the horizontal bar. When I played football in computer games, you had to get the ball over the horizontal bar. After this, I'll search the web to see if the horizontal bar still exists. Regarding soccer, there aren't two holes because the nets are closed at the back. You cannot pass through the field structure by going through a goal: you bump into the net the ball bounces off of when a goal is made. So, Randall is considering soccer fields topologically equivalent to a plane (ignoring all the holes in the netting). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.229|172.70.114.229]] 14:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I looked up the goal thing and found that what I was imagining are called H-frame or H-style goal posts. Not the norm; the have two posts instead of one. I'm a weirdo that I thought they were what was up. But Randall could have been thinking of H-frame goals. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 15:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Many high school and amateur football fields still use H-frame goals. The resulting space can be used as a goal in some other sports. That does raise the question of why they didn't just have one field with lots of holes, and just plug the ones up that aren't needed for the sport being played. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tetherball, in many variants, does contain an obstruction -- the pole, which you're not allowed to touch. The Topology Department is getting tired of having to switch out the fields. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But you can surely jump over it, so it's topologically the same as a zero-height pole... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Tetherball does not have a *hole*. The pole, rope, and ball are just a stretched out bit of the continuous surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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Croquet has six hoops and a peg. How does that make for nine holes? Is it including the opponents' two balls as holes? And if so, why aren't opposing players counted as holes in the other sports? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquet#Nine-wicket] 'Nine-wicket croquet, sometimes called &amp;quot;backyard croquet&amp;quot;, is played mainly in Canada and the United States, and is the game most recreational players in those countries call simply &amp;quot;croquet&amp;quot;.' (Wikipedia) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 18:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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American football goals are Y-shaped. Rugby goals are H-shaped. Did... did Randall get those confused? Also, I fail to see how basketball and American football get two, croquet gets a bunch, but soccer gets zero. Aren't soccer goals (in-game at least) basically the same shape as croquet wickets, just waaaay bigger? Granted, I don't know anything about topology and I came to this wiki specifically cuz I'm dumb, so I'd love if someone could splain this all for me ;) --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.170|172.69.69.170]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The soccer goal has a net, so the ball can't go through it. Topologically it's just a wall (Randall seems to be ignoring all the tiny holes in netting, presumaby because they're smaller than the balls so they're insignificant to the sports). [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with that explanation - the net is the only thing that makes the soccer field not to have holes. It should be included in the comic explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
::The hole for the volleyball only makes sense taking in account that the bottom of the net doesn't reach the floor, although this space is not used in the game.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree about soccer; the explanation should be that soccer goals (with net) are topologically part of the plane. The same is true of ice hockey, even though you can travel &amp;quot;around&amp;quot; the net, it is topologically part of the field with no holes. As for (American) football, the topology only makes sense for H-shaped goals, which are more often seen on primary/secondary play fields than in higher level play. [[User:Aramisuvla|Aramisuvla]] ([[User talk:Aramisuvla|talk]]) 16:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. Soccer goals are shaped such that their bottoms connect smoothly to the ground in a single continuous piece. So they are topologically equivalent to the plane. This wouldn't be the case if not for the back part holding the net. That's unlike basketball hoops, which are actual holes. The holes in football must be referring to the H-shaped uprights that were standard until 1967 in professional leagues and are still seen in some high school fields and even a couple college fields. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.128|172.70.131.128]] 03:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::EDIT: I should point out that the net actually has, like, hundreds of holes. But I think the net here is being treated as a continuous sheet. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 03:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I mentioned all the little holes in the net in my comment that you're replying to. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The group link pointing to group (mathematics) doesn't bear any relation with the sentence or the comic. I would remove the link.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The joke seems important to me because their no consideration of the word 'field' being a math pun, and it raises the idea in readers. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.74|162.158.79.74]] 15:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:When I first saw the comic title I assumed that part of the joke would be a pun on the word &amp;quot;field&amp;quot; being used for both sports and math. And even though the comic doesn't explicitly make this joke, I'll bet it inspired Randall. It's worth mentioning. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In rugby (both League and Union) the goalposts are within the field of play: significant game activity takes place behind them. This is not the case with soccer. I have no clue what difference this makes topologically.{{unsigned ip|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been thinking about this classification system, and can't quite work out the baseline for it. I think we're supposed to assume that the whole 3d manifold is represented in a 2d 'field', or at least any path through the air flattened to an arbitrarily thin surface 'bulge' during topological rationalisation. But there are several possible field-of-play definitions we can be using...&lt;br /&gt;
* A single valid 'play' or traversal&lt;br /&gt;
** For ball-sports (or indeed other play-objects) this could be where the item can travel. But in this case I think almost 'all' codes of football are Type 1 (first of the topologies) as almost every football code deals with both 'goal' and 'endzone' (where valid) as the same as a hole (dimple) in golf... It goes into it and it might as well come out of it again, there's no continuation of play 'through the defined' space, and so the topological hole (the barrier defined the scoring membrane's edge) never comes into play.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Unlike in Gridiron, where a touchdown doesn't even need the 'ball' to touch the ground, rugby (league and/or union, and possibly further derivatives) requires this and a player can fail to score a Try if (s)he passes bodily over the line but is unable to plant the ball (not allowed to throw/drop it) and I'd have to check what happens if the defending player(s) keeping them sufficiently off the ground (assuming that's done in an allowable fashion) returns the intended scorer back over the line via a circuitous route around /back-through the suspended goal-mouth (above the cross-bar, between the verticals)... They keep changing those kinds of technical rules, so I can't be sure of the current technicalities involved.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Likewise, a volleyball or shuttlecock that passes under the net-top-edge is out of play, so it is really a Type 1 under this definition. (Might as well be a solid barrier, floor-to-top-height, rather than a thin bar or a partial net.)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;The basketball case is interesting. Although a dunk ends the play of the ball, I'm not sure if the path of a ball ''up'' through the hoop does not. In that circumstance I could believe it is a Type 3 case, but if that's a game-stopping thing then Type 1.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Croquet is indeed a varying number of paths through (I ''think'') an unordered set of holes, or at least nothing to say that they can be taken out of order (or 'un-passed-through'), and you can't necessarily restrict a 'play' to one shot at a time if certain conditions allow you to play on, so dodging in and around all scoring zones defined by the hoops gives you something like.&lt;br /&gt;
** For player/competitor/participant movement, similarly passing under the bar is not valid for the High Jump.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I don't think there's anything to stop such transitions upon the Parallel Bars, but it is much more a feature of the ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars, whereas from what I've seen of the sport, the even-variety tends to be topologically used much as the pommel-horse.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Players of football (American variations certainly, rugby of course, proper football if you don't bother with the nets) are not restricted from passing through the scoring area (either way) on a circuitous path that may be off the field of play but isn't off the field ''of players''.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;For the Olympic Swimming, I'm not suring porpoising over and under the lane-delineations is a thing, so I would have said that (under this definition), it should be a number of entirely disconnected Type 1 'zones', with no valid movement between them at all.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;So far as I'm aware, there are no rules for/against croquet ''players'' passing through hoops (intentionally or perhaps because they severely annoyed an opponent) so maybe that stands in this case, too. Ditto for basketball, if hoisted. Although in both cases it may prevent the balls passing through immediately afterwards, without game-stoppage to resolve the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
* If it's a game's-worth of play, then the status of the basket in basketball (unlike the pocket in snooker/pool/some-versions-of-billards) might be defined by the topological-hole-that-is-the-physical-hole's-edge, rather than treat it as the old basket-with-bottom from which the precusor to the net-ring almost immediately evolved. And the same could be said about the suspended scoring-hole (whether supported as Y-post or an H-post, the lower limb(s) are merely physical necessities that play little part in the gameplay specifics except as a general hazard to avoid, it is the crossbar and verticals-to-infinity (and the infinity itself) that is the gap through which a circular path cannot be rationalised back to a point). For most of the rest (including the participant-paths, with there being nothing to stop the traversal of a footballer of whatever stripe jumping the cross-bar, but that may only mean something in the topology of some variations, as far as the game is concerned...) it seems meaningless. Even in an Aussie Rules field with four 'posts' per end, and probably more interest in whether jumping onto an opposing player is against the rules or indeed an entirely legitimate and expected tactic.&lt;br /&gt;
* The general arena-wide area is a further superset (perhaps with no additional complications, i.e. exactly congruent) of the field-of-play(er) definition. For coin-operated table-top games (foosball/table-football) the path from each goal may (additionally to any on-top topological loop-disconnections) force passage of the ball underneath and out into the new-play insertion spot. So add a couple more (unidirectional) paths, at least. Or six for a coin-operated pool/etc table, and I assume the Skeeball (not something I'm familar with, at least by that name) is defined that way already...&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I found I needed to say a lot more than I thought I did, so the first point (and sub-points) went on a bit and I cut down what I might have said for the following points. I may come back to re-edit this. I've got a handy little table, in mind, but I'm not sure it'll work much better to summarise everything I've been cogitating about for most of today while away from the keyboard... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;hole&amp;quot; in the goalpost in American football is relevant for field goals, not touchdowns. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm not sure it's relevent for either. The field-goal passes over the crossbar and between (but also maybe above) the raised verticles, but that route is topologically the same as one above the crossbar but wide, which is in turn the same as one rolling along the ground and wide... Or indeed carried across just like most touchdowns (any that isn't run through the middle of the H-post', un-netted but otherwise soccer-like 'goalmouth' lower section).&lt;br /&gt;
::Possibly running around the post(s) that support the field-goal defining beams counts as the path around the topological hole because any change to that route that attempts to transform it to a useless loop within the main field of play must either (at some point) pass through the support for the crossbar or else wholly through the region that defines (in one direction, at least) the goal-scoring area. Can anyone get Word Of God in his intentions, here? It looks weird, to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 03:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As has been alluded to, this must be an American university's topology department. A rest-of-the-world university would include four holes for cricket. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 17:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is my (not yet properly tabularised, or properly wikimedialinked) idea of all the kinds of information I'd suggest go in there.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;But it's a monstrocity and I don't want to remove the very useful existing information already in the Explanation (that may even be better/more accurate than my interpretation).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;...so here it is for review. If anything in it is useful to anybody else as inspiration for future edits then... well, your choice!&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 1 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path looping around this area can be moved at will and shrunk to just one point that could result from any other path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with no other notable features.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Baseball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Partial!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball#/media/File:Baseball_diamond.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 The playing area for baseball contains many important physical features for scoring and playing purposes, but is essentially one flat area (and continuous airspace) when you disregard the elevation of the pitcher's mound or even the outfield fence  and stands (for any ball that carries that far, upon being hit).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall explicitly classes this in the Type 1 diagram, and there isn't any obvious reason to argue this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Association Football (&amp;quot;'''Soccer''''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Football&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstruted rectangular playing area with a goal formed of two vertical posts connected between the tops by a crossbar. In official competition (and where otherwise desired) there is a net stretched behind each goalmouth to stop any ball that passes completely through it (with or without hitting any of the posts), although games can be played with no net in place, or in street/schoolyard situations by goals defined only as a goalpost-like markings painted upon a solid wall (hitting the  wall within the bounds of the painted line constitutes a goal, give or take arguments about whether it counts if it hit the line).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 1 (a single unobstructed zone), which is likely due to the 'pocket' of the net-backed goalmouth being nothing more than a straight extension of the playing area.&lt;br /&gt;
 However, an un-netted set of goalposts might be considered a Type 3, with each set of goalposts defining an impassible frame (the hole in the topology, ''not'' the same thing as the physical hole formed by the goal-frame) within which the balls can freely pass and return ''not'' through the goalmouth, or vice-versa.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Tetherball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A ball attached to a cord anchored at the tip of a pole that is in turn stuck in the ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Although the mechanism used to allow free swivelling of the tether around the pole may be quite complex (including being looped around a helical thread to help register how many excess orbits of the pole the ball has made in either direction), the basic premise can be simplified to a single extrusion from the playing area, which is topologically identical to a playing area with no extrusion at all. Thus Randall properly states this as a Type 1 variant.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 2 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will be pass around the unpassable hole in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with a single central hole in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Volleyball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A volleyball court consists of a flat area disected by a raised net in the centre. Valid shots pass over the net, but it is possible for the ball (or players) to pass between the net and the floor.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall lists this under the Type 2 diagram. An argument can be made that the net could effectively reach to the ground, or questions asked about anchoring the net top/bottom to the posts at either side with separate straps (adding left and right 'passages' between the elements of the obstacle that is the net) but he clearly intends the loop around the hole to represent the ability to passing over the net one way and under the net the other (or vice-versa) as a topologically irreducible loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Badminton'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Note that this diagram completely abstracts the under-net area away.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 The net setup is very similar to volleyball, i.e. raised above the ground, with very similar rules regarding valid shots between the areas on each side.&lt;br /&gt;
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 As with Volleyball, Randall feels justified in this being classed as a Class 2, having similar reasons for this as well as possible arguments against.&lt;br /&gt;
 (Note that another form of {{w|Badminton Horse Trials|Badminton}} is arguably far more topologically complex!)&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''High Jump'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A bar supported at height between two supports. The idea is to successfully pass over the bar (without knocking it off, the bar being only supported to the supports, not firmly attached to them), although a competitor who decides to abort their attempt mid-run might well choose to pass underneath to default the attempt with the least physical and organisational aftermath.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With an 'above' and 'below' path to potentially loop around (though not in a single jump), Randall chooses to ascribe this as a Type 2. If a competitor displaces the bar, during a failed jump, it can morph the topology into a Type 1 scenario&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 3 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around one ot other ''or both'' of the holes in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with two holes in it, towards each end.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Basketball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Played upon a court, at each end of which is a tall pole (or supporting wall or other structure) from which a 'basket' is projected over the playing area. The earliest baskets were an actual closed-bottom basket, but this required climbing up to retrieve balls successfully landed within them. By removing the bottoms of the baskets and, later, using just a hoop (with or without a bottomless net). Points are scored by sending the ball through the basket-loop ''from above'', to be retrieved for further play as it exits below.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topologically, the edge of each loop is directly connected to the ground, so it can be smplified as a two-hole Type 3 field (the hole in the field is the impassible rim in the basket-loop). This does not preserve the orientation (or intended unidirectional nature) of the basketball-shot, but this is Topology's fault, not Randall's!&lt;br /&gt;
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 American/Canadian Football (&amp;quot;Gridiron&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;'''Football'''&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 A unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'Endzones' at each end. Goalposts are either of an &amp;quot;H&amp;quot; shape or essentially a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot; (crossbar, upper verticals and a single utilitarian post, usually set back beyond normal playing area with an extension over to hold the crossbar directly over the goal-line. The verticals are tall but are also conceptually projected upwards without limit, for scoring purposes, should a field-goal/etc be kicked high enough to exceed the structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 3 (a topological hole at each end of the field), which ''may'' represent the bound surrounding the elevated goal-scoring area. Alternately it represents the physical structure of the H-shaped posts which rationalise down to the open-backed ground-touching goalpost footings and the crossbar.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Parallel Bars''' or perhaps ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Parallel Bars are two horizontal bars supported at roughly hand-height, upon which a gymnast will perform various hand-supported feats strength and coordination. The participant will not usually fully use the space beneath either bar (and between the two supports for the bar), but a  will needs the opportunity to grip fully around the bar, especially when the other hand is released for a complicated body movement and it would be impractical or a different discipline entirely to used a 'filled' bar-support.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Uneven Parallel Bars are two similarly supported bars but at two different (and greater) heights, with the performance being generally that of keeping the grip of both hands (or knees/etc) on either one or other of the bars whilst rotating around its axis, when not actively transfering across between the bars themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Effectively two loops (as per basketball hoops but in a different orientation and scale). The Type 3 topology suggested by Randall is more meaningful for the use of Uneven Parallel Bars, but is probably applicable to the 'even' version in its own way.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 4 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around at least one (and possibly several) of the nine holes in this topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with nine small holes dotted into it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Olympic Swimming'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 In competitive swimming, a swimming pool is often delineated into lanes (for Olympic purposes, Lane 0 to Lane 9, though usually not all will be used) by floating barriers and other markings. These provide a limited amount of wave-reduction but mostly keep competitors from inadvertently drifting across or into each others' paths.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall considers this setup to require nine 'holes' in the competition area, presumably where the floats pass along the surface of the water, to make a Type 4 field of competition. He must then consider it perfectly possible for competitors to pass under ''or over'' these barriers, at will, with complete disregard for the usual competition (and risking disqualification). Otherwise, it might be best considered as (up to) ten ''separate'' Type 1 arenas, with just one swimmer in each.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Croquet'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A game in which a number of metal hoops are placed in the ground such that a given number of players (or teams of players) must each propel their own ball(s), and possibly those of their opponents, through each loop either directly with their own mallet or through contact between balls.&lt;br /&gt;
 Many variations exist with differing numbers of hoops and variations of rules and winning conditions. Randall appears to favour the &amp;quot;Nine-wicket Croquet&amp;quot; popular to North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The topological simplification of nine hoops across a flat surface can be thought of as the Type 4 topology displayed.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Table Football (&amp;quot;'''Foosball'''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Table Soccer&amp;quot;) - as per title-text&lt;br /&gt;
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 An enclosed playing surface with (typically) eight rotatable and extendable bars supporting representative (soccer) 'footballer' figures, ready to strike a small ball across the surface, as might be desired by the two or more opposing players who are each able to control the movements of half of the 'bars' (each team's-worth having a goalkeeper, defence, midfield and attacking 'layer'). By skill and/or luck, the aim is to propel the ball into the opposing's player's goal.&lt;br /&gt;
 On coin-operated games, often the playing area is usually sealed off from direct manual interference, and a ball that goes into the goalmouth finds itself in a lower chamber that stores the ball(s) and deposits them via some feed to carry the ball back up and 'thrown in' towards the centre of the table to start the next attempt at goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With eight bars across, and potentially two goalmouth sinks, this may not actually add up to a nine-hole Type 4 field of play. But presumably Randall is thinking of a version that does.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Skee-Ball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 An arcade game in which a ball is propelled by the player to land in (according to skill) one of various holes in a target-ridden surface (to return back to the player for another go).&lt;br /&gt;
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 It would depend upon the exact confuguration of Skee-Ball machine but, again, Randall seems to think this matches the Type 4 topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Australian Rules Football ('Aussie Rules'&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed oval field with four simple vertical posts upon the perimiter arcs at each end.&lt;br /&gt;
 The ball passing between the (taller) central pair of each end's posts (projected upwards indefinitely) is a Goal. Passing between the outer posts and the adjacent central one (or bouncing off these) is a Behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Type 1 if the protruding poles are rationalised to zero, without respect to scoring zones. Four ''or perhaps six'' topological holes (two or three per end) if respecting the imaginary projections indefinitely upwards for scoring purposes, depending upon if you care about chirality of the ball path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Gaelic football ('Gaelic') - fields also used for Hurling&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular field with an H-shaped set of goalposts at each end, the area below the crossbar often being netted, while the upper verticals being nominally considered as projecting upwards without limit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Valid balls sent over the crossbar and between the verticals are awarded Points; those sent into the netted goalmouth are Goals (equivalent to three Points for scoring purposes).&lt;br /&gt;
 There is no in-play use of the area behind the line of the goalposts, unlike various other football codes with similar-looking posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'In Goal' areas continuing on behind the 'Try Line' upon which the H-shaped goalposts sit.&lt;br /&gt;
 The field of play extends into this area, the lower parts of the vertical posts play no purpose other than to hold the upper elements in the air. A 'Try' (roughly equivalent to a Touchdown) can be scored by placing the ball somewhere over the line or by touching the base of the (often padded) posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 The cross-bar and the verticals upwards of it (towards and bounded at infinity) count as the hard boundary of a scoring area for &amp;quot;conversions&amp;quot; (taken immediately after a try) and other kicks (penalties and drop-goals).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Might be treated as Type 3 (two holes), unless concerned about whether balls kicked through the goals or taking across the try line weave back one or other side of, or between, the lower vertical posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 Alternately, is a Type 3 for the lower (not more special for scoring than any adjacent lower area) frames, while the open tops (meaningful for scoring purposes) rationalise as topologically irrelevent.&lt;br /&gt;
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(TL;DR; - It's too long, you may not want to read it...) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.213|162.158.34.213]] 21:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The extended discussion in the explanation about the issues with &amp;quot;two-holes for football&amp;quot; goes away if the goals are the H-shaped kind rather then the Y-shaped kind.  Since the comic specifically states that these fields belong to the Topology Department - and are NOT generalized across all sports fields - then we can use the &amp;quot;two hole&amp;quot; information to deduce that the department's fields have the H-shaped kind...which solves 100% of the confusion and eliminates the long (and excessively intricate) digression about other weird forms of &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; with different topologies. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 13:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this really explainxkcd? Asking since I don't see the obvious stated anywhere. Hell, '''the obvious question and last statement of the image isn't even addressed'''. Why does no one ever want to use the topology department's athletic fields? Its a mystery right? Whats wrong with a soccer field that has a topology like that? It make detecting when the ball crossed the line so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how has no one talked about the geographic/field topology that the last question implies along with the obvious reprecusions (ball roll down hill. stuck in middle. habing to climb. tripping in holes and breaking legs)? Why is everything so freaking high level here? '''Where the hell is the explanation of the joke's? Something is terribly wrong!''' [[Special:Contributions/172.71.82.81|172.71.82.81]] 17:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: One of the more serious problems with explainxkcd is the well-known phenomenon that explaining a joke often kills the humor.  So, quite often, in the course of fully explaining the cartoon - we do indeed shred the actual humor into tiny, tiny fragments.   However, we're here to explain it - and that's that.&lt;br /&gt;
: I guess the joke is that the topology department are so obsessed with the topological shape of their sport's fields that they have lost the shape and dimensions of the fields - and thereby made them useless for playing actual sports on.&lt;br /&gt;
: Two fields that are topologically equivalent are not necessarily capable of being used for playing multiple sports.  Swimming on a croquet field - or playing croquet in a swimming pool does not work.  [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.199|172.69.71.199]] 18:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The goal is to explain the joke in '''laymans terms''' yaknow, &amp;quot;because your dumb&amp;quot;. Since the joke is missed by those outside the fields and don't know how definitions of terms differ in different fields and whatnot. Its the whole purpose. The thing above explains nothing in laymans terms. There is no joke. All there is is an explanation on how field theory and topolgy work and then why the resulting images make sense. Nothing on why this is supposed to be funny. The one thing we actually have to explain at minimum. The joke seems to be that this field which is created for the reasons already described is the actual field we would play on (something completly unaddressed in the explanation above). This could be dangerous with those holes (also unaddressed). And then there is the unadressed question of is this a raised plot of land thats been cut out, or is this all that exist, and kicking the ball off field or falling in a hole goes into a void. This needs to be an explanation for people who are much, much, much dumber. We are not supposed to be explaining field theory, just enough of it to get the joke [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.124|162.158.187.124]] 18:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wondering if any topologists understand American football, and if any football fans understand topology.  I am a football fan who doesn't understand topology.  As requested before, I would like to understand why there is any topological difference in analyzing the American football gameplay and playing field, between H-shaped and Y-shaped goals.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The field-goal-space is functionally a rectangle above the crossbar, and the width between the uprights, but of undefined height, in both the H and Y cases.  It is directly above the back line of the endzone.  The one or two supports for the crossbar are irrelevant to gameplay.  All supports below the bar would be eliminated, if the engineering problem could be solved.  Why does the existence of one vs. two engineering kludges make a critical difference in the number of topological holes?  &lt;br /&gt;
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The endzone, that is, all of the space on the playing field (grass) in front of, and on either side of the goalposts is valid and legal for every player and for the ball on every play, potentially with scoring implications at the termination of the play.  Note that the goal posts for pro football were at one time at the back of the endzone, then from 1933 to 1974, on the goal line, and since 1974, at the back of the endzone again.  NCAA/college football has had the goalposts at the back of the endzone since 1927.  &lt;br /&gt;
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All of the space above the grass, above the endzone, both under and above the height of the horizontal crossbar, are also legal and valid for play by the players and by the ball on every play.  In one case, a play involving a legally kicked field goal, the space above the crossbar and between the uprights, has scoring significance.  A field goal has the same name and the same general mechanics in basketball and in American football.  In neither case do the engineering contrivances supporting and suspending the goal rectangle (football) or circle (basketball) play a conceptual role in the gameplay.  Why, then, do the topologists here in the discussion treat football and basketball differently, and why are H-shaped and Y-shaped goals in football not equivalent?  Randall counts both basketball and football as 'two-holers', but the current public Expain xkcd text says that he is wrong for pro and college football.  So far as I can tell, pro and college football have both used the Y-goal since 1974 or before.  The Y-support for the goalposts is 6.5 feet behind the back of the endzone, and completely outside of the playing field.  I look forward to learning something.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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To me the topological fields look like toilet seats  with three  more or less seashells. --[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Why is football on the two-hole field? Where are the holes? I don't think the goal posts in American football introduce any since they're not closed. Maybe it's soccer? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88|172.69.68.88]] 12:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it is because the goal posts extend into infinity and the topological definition of a hole: something you can draw a circle around that you cannot contract to a point. [the user placed a horizontal rule instead of a signature by accident.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, you might still be able to call them holes. They would be if they were fully rectangles. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Gridiron football's field contains two areas (the endzones) that can be thought of as not being part of the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; field of play, for lack of a better way of saying that pre-coffee. Association football likewise has the areas within the nets. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: My immediate thoughts were also that football (soccer) and football (gridiron) are the same, or indeed the other way round. In both cases the closed hole (assuming not a Y-like vertical holder, but H-like as per rugby football) plays no more or less topological part. Threading through the hole from behind has no relevence in either, and in fact defining it as a region that is 'a special enclosed gap with meaning' (which doesn't really matter in the topology sense, just like golf would be a topologically hole-less surface and as a coffee-cup's inside 'dimple' doesn't count, just its handle-hole that makes it equivalent to a doughnut) actually counts for something in association football. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It's not the space bounded by the goal that is the 'hole' - it's the goal post itself (or in the case of the high jump, it's the bar, not the space under it). The reason soccer doesn't have 'holes' where the goals are is that they're positioned on the edge of the playable area - you can't play around the bars, because as soon as you cross the goal line you're out of play. And it doesn't matter whether it's a Y-shaped or H-shaped goal - topologically, they both form one continuous 'hole'. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't think that's the reason why soccer doesn't have holes. The goalposts in football are also outside the playable area, and so are the poles in volleyball. I think soccer is listed as zero-holes because soccer goals are typically not fixed to the field, and are instead separate objects that can be dragged around and removed from the field. On the other hand, the same is true of volleyball and badminton nets (and those nets contain many holes!) so the comic seems a bit inconsistent.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146|172.70.175.146]] 14:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Speaking from a &amp;quot;football is soccer&amp;quot; nation (well, mostly, the exceptional subregions would argue that it's rugby) a soccer goal is typically ''not'' draggable around the field, but permanent (or a unit frame that has to be painstakingly hoisted out of the ground if you ''don't'' want them in your football stadium, when you repurpose it for other purposes) and it's only the optional net that gets added to the park's permanent goalposts for the official five-aside competition evening or day of the weekend. Draggable goalposts need a further level of intermediate organisation that goes beyond the typical &amp;quot;shipping container with windows cut in it (with shutters bolted over them) as a cheap changing room/officials' cabin&amp;quot; that might be found near the edge of the field but rarely even has as much as a corner flag left in them, between games&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I presume that US 'football' posts are considered holes because they are an infinitely-tall window (even though the delineating poles only reach so high) that is a meaningful slice (where the goal is, you have to loop around it in mutually different unsimplifiable paths to reach the other side), but then that should make for ''two'' holes per end, if you count getting a field-goal and then returning round the sides (or vice-versa) as another valid surface-path.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: ...but, yeah, I can imagine the problem of definition (and cultural famiarity) here is going to produce more problems even than the understanding of topology. One of the less internationally-accepted comics, this. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 18:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: O_O . Randall is united-statesian, so football means the thing where you tackle each other and hold the ball in your hands. I've never been into football, and I've always seen it with two large goal posts with a horizontal bar between them. The hole is formed under the horizontal bar. When I played football in computer games, you had to get the ball over the horizontal bar. After this, I'll search the web to see if the horizontal bar still exists. Regarding soccer, there aren't two holes because the nets are closed at the back. You cannot pass through the field structure by going through a goal: you bump into the net the ball bounces off of when a goal is made. So, Randall is considering soccer fields topologically equivalent to a plane (ignoring all the holes in the netting). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.229|172.70.114.229]] 14:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I looked up the goal thing and found that what I was imagining are called H-frame or H-style goal posts. Not the norm; the have two posts instead of one. I'm a weirdo that I thought they were what was up. But Randall could have been thinking of H-frame goals. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 15:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Many high school and amateur football fields still use H-frame goals. The resulting space can be used as a goal in some other sports. That does raise the question of why they didn't just have one field with lots of holes, and just plug the ones up that aren't needed for the sport being played. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tetherball, in many variants, does contain an obstruction -- the pole, which you're not allowed to touch. The Topology Department is getting tired of having to switch out the fields. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But you can surely jump over it, so it's topologically the same as a zero-height pole... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Croquet has six hoops and a peg. How does that make for nine holes? Is it including the opponents' two balls as holes? And if so, why aren't opposing players counted as holes in the other sports? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquet#Nine-wicket] 'Nine-wicket croquet, sometimes called &amp;quot;backyard croquet&amp;quot;, is played mainly in Canada and the United States, and is the game most recreational players in those countries call simply &amp;quot;croquet&amp;quot;.' (Wikipedia) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 18:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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American football goals are Y-shaped. Rugby goals are H-shaped. Did... did Randall get those confused? Also, I fail to see how basketball and American football get two, croquet gets a bunch, but soccer gets zero. Aren't soccer goals (in-game at least) basically the same shape as croquet wickets, just waaaay bigger? Granted, I don't know anything about topology and I came to this wiki specifically cuz I'm dumb, so I'd love if someone could splain this all for me ;) --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.170|172.69.69.170]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The soccer goal has a net, so the ball can't go through it. Topologically it's just a wall (Randall seems to be ignoring all the tiny holes in netting, presumaby because they're smaller than the balls so they're insignificant to the sports). [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with that explanation - the net is the only thing that makes the soccer field not to have holes. It should be included in the comic explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
::The hole for the volleyball only makes sense taking in account that the bottom of the net doesn't reach the floor, although this space is not used in the game.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree about soccer; the explanation should be that soccer goals (with net) are topologically part of the plane. The same is true of ice hockey, even though you can travel &amp;quot;around&amp;quot; the net, it is topologically part of the field with no holes. As for (American) football, the topology only makes sense for H-shaped goals, which are more often seen on primary/secondary play fields than in higher level play. [[User:Aramisuvla|Aramisuvla]] ([[User talk:Aramisuvla|talk]]) 16:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. Soccer goals are shaped such that their bottoms connect smoothly to the ground in a single continuous piece. So they are topologically equivalent to the plane. This wouldn't be the case if not for the back part holding the net. That's unlike basketball hoops, which are actual holes. The holes in football must be referring to the H-shaped uprights that were standard until 1967 in professional leagues and are still seen in some high school fields and even a couple college fields. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.128|172.70.131.128]] 03:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::EDIT: I should point out that the net actually has, like, hundreds of holes. But I think the net here is being treated as a continuous sheet. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 03:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I mentioned all the little holes in the net in my comment that you're replying to. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The group link pointing to group (mathematics) doesn't bear any relation with the sentence or the comic. I would remove the link.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The joke seems important to me because their no consideration of the word 'field' being a math pun, and it raises the idea in readers. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.74|162.158.79.74]] 15:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:When I first saw the comic title I assumed that part of the joke would be a pun on the word &amp;quot;field&amp;quot; being used for both sports and math. And even though the comic doesn't explicitly make this joke, I'll bet it inspired Randall. It's worth mentioning. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In rugby (both League and Union) the goalposts are within the field of play: significant game activity takes place behind them. This is not the case with soccer. I have no clue what difference this makes topologically.{{unsigned ip|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been thinking about this classification system, and can't quite work out the baseline for it. I think we're supposed to assume that the whole 3d manifold is represented in a 2d 'field', or at least any path through the air flattened to an arbitrarily thin surface 'bulge' during topological rationalisation. But there are several possible field-of-play definitions we can be using...&lt;br /&gt;
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** For ball-sports (or indeed other play-objects) this could be where the item can travel. But in this case I think almost 'all' codes of football are Type 1 (first of the topologies) as almost every football code deals with both 'goal' and 'endzone' (where valid) as the same as a hole (dimple) in golf... It goes into it and it might as well come out of it again, there's no continuation of play 'through the defined' space, and so the topological hole (the barrier defined the scoring membrane's edge) never comes into play.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Unlike in Gridiron, where a touchdown doesn't even need the 'ball' to touch the ground, rugby (league and/or union, and possibly further derivatives) requires this and a player can fail to score a Try if (s)he passes bodily over the line but is unable to plant the ball (not allowed to throw/drop it) and I'd have to check what happens if the defending player(s) keeping them sufficiently off the ground (assuming that's done in an allowable fashion) returns the intended scorer back over the line via a circuitous route around /back-through the suspended goal-mouth (above the cross-bar, between the verticals)... They keep changing those kinds of technical rules, so I can't be sure of the current technicalities involved.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Likewise, a volleyball or shuttlecock that passes under the net-top-edge is out of play, so it is really a Type 1 under this definition. (Might as well be a solid barrier, floor-to-top-height, rather than a thin bar or a partial net.)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;The basketball case is interesting. Although a dunk ends the play of the ball, I'm not sure if the path of a ball ''up'' through the hoop does not. In that circumstance I could believe it is a Type 3 case, but if that's a game-stopping thing then Type 1.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Croquet is indeed a varying number of paths through (I ''think'') an unordered set of holes, or at least nothing to say that they can be taken out of order (or 'un-passed-through'), and you can't necessarily restrict a 'play' to one shot at a time if certain conditions allow you to play on, so dodging in and around all scoring zones defined by the hoops gives you something like.&lt;br /&gt;
** For player/competitor/participant movement, similarly passing under the bar is not valid for the High Jump.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I don't think there's anything to stop such transitions upon the Parallel Bars, but it is much more a feature of the ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars, whereas from what I've seen of the sport, the even-variety tends to be topologically used much as the pommel-horse.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Players of football (American variations certainly, rugby of course, proper football if you don't bother with the nets) are not restricted from passing through the scoring area (either way) on a circuitous path that may be off the field of play but isn't off the field ''of players''.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;For the Olympic Swimming, I'm not suring porpoising over and under the lane-delineations is a thing, so I would have said that (under this definition), it should be a number of entirely disconnected Type 1 'zones', with no valid movement between them at all.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;So far as I'm aware, there are no rules for/against croquet ''players'' passing through hoops (intentionally or perhaps because they severely annoyed an opponent) so maybe that stands in this case, too. Ditto for basketball, if hoisted. Although in both cases it may prevent the balls passing through immediately afterwards, without game-stoppage to resolve the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
* If it's a game's-worth of play, then the status of the basket in basketball (unlike the pocket in snooker/pool/some-versions-of-billards) might be defined by the topological-hole-that-is-the-physical-hole's-edge, rather than treat it as the old basket-with-bottom from which the precusor to the net-ring almost immediately evolved. And the same could be said about the suspended scoring-hole (whether supported as Y-post or an H-post, the lower limb(s) are merely physical necessities that play little part in the gameplay specifics except as a general hazard to avoid, it is the crossbar and verticals-to-infinity (and the infinity itself) that is the gap through which a circular path cannot be rationalised back to a point). For most of the rest (including the participant-paths, with there being nothing to stop the traversal of a footballer of whatever stripe jumping the cross-bar, but that may only mean something in the topology of some variations, as far as the game is concerned...) it seems meaningless. Even in an Aussie Rules field with four 'posts' per end, and probably more interest in whether jumping onto an opposing player is against the rules or indeed an entirely legitimate and expected tactic.&lt;br /&gt;
* The general arena-wide area is a further superset (perhaps with no additional complications, i.e. exactly congruent) of the field-of-play(er) definition. For coin-operated table-top games (foosball/table-football) the path from each goal may (additionally to any on-top topological loop-disconnections) force passage of the ball underneath and out into the new-play insertion spot. So add a couple more (unidirectional) paths, at least. Or six for a coin-operated pool/etc table, and I assume the Skeeball (not something I'm familar with, at least by that name) is defined that way already...&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I found I needed to say a lot more than I thought I did, so the first point (and sub-points) went on a bit and I cut down what I might have said for the following points. I may come back to re-edit this. I've got a handy little table, in mind, but I'm not sure it'll work much better to summarise everything I've been cogitating about for most of today while away from the keyboard... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;hole&amp;quot; in the goalpost in American football is relevant for field goals, not touchdowns. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm not sure it's relevent for either. The field-goal passes over the crossbar and between (but also maybe above) the raised verticles, but that route is topologically the same as one above the crossbar but wide, which is in turn the same as one rolling along the ground and wide... Or indeed carried across just like most touchdowns (any that isn't run through the middle of the H-post', un-netted but otherwise soccer-like 'goalmouth' lower section).&lt;br /&gt;
::Possibly running around the post(s) that support the field-goal defining beams counts as the path around the topological hole because any change to that route that attempts to transform it to a useless loop within the main field of play must either (at some point) pass through the support for the crossbar or else wholly through the region that defines (in one direction, at least) the goal-scoring area. Can anyone get Word Of God in his intentions, here? It looks weird, to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 03:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As has been alluded to, this must be an American university's topology department. A rest-of-the-world university would include four holes for cricket. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 17:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is my (not yet properly tabularised, or properly wikimedialinked) idea of all the kinds of information I'd suggest go in there.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;But it's a monstrocity and I don't want to remove the very useful existing information already in the Explanation (that may even be better/more accurate than my interpretation).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;...so here it is for review. If anything in it is useful to anybody else as inspiration for future edits then... well, your choice!&lt;br /&gt;
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 Field diagram&lt;br /&gt;
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 Usage description&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topology&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 1 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (First image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path looping around this area can be moved at will and shrunk to just one point that could result from any other path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with no other notable features.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Baseball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Partial!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball#/media/File:Baseball_diamond.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 The playing area for baseball contains many important physical features for scoring and playing purposes, but is essentially one flat area (and continuous airspace) when you disregard the elevation of the pitcher's mound or even the outfield fence  and stands (for any ball that carries that far, upon being hit).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall explicitly classes this in the Type 1 diagram, and there isn't any obvious reason to argue this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Association Football (&amp;quot;'''Soccer''''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Football&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Football_pitch_metric_and_imperial.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstruted rectangular playing area with a goal formed of two vertical posts connected between the tops by a crossbar. In official competition (and where otherwise desired) there is a net stretched behind each goalmouth to stop any ball that passes completely through it (with or without hitting any of the posts), although games can be played with no net in place, or in street/schoolyard situations by goals defined only as a goalpost-like markings painted upon a solid wall (hitting the  wall within the bounds of the painted line constitutes a goal, give or take arguments about whether it counts if it hit the line).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 1 (a single unobstructed zone), which is likely due to the 'pocket' of the net-backed goalmouth being nothing more than a straight extension of the playing area.&lt;br /&gt;
 However, an un-netted set of goalposts might be considered a Type 3, with each set of goalposts defining an impassible frame (the hole in the topology, ''not'' the same thing as the physical hole formed by the goal-frame) within which the balls can freely pass and return ''not'' through the goalmouth, or vice-versa.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Tetherball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tetherball_in_Georgetown,_Seattle,_Washington.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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 A ball attached to a cord anchored at the tip of a pole that is in turn stuck in the ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Although the mechanism used to allow free swivelling of the tether around the pole may be quite complex (including being looped around a helical thread to help register how many excess orbits of the pole the ball has made in either direction), the basic premise can be simplified to a single extrusion from the playing area, which is topologically identical to a playing area with no extrusion at all. Thus Randall properly states this as a Type 1 variant.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 2 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Second image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will be pass around the unpassable hole in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with a single central hole in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Volleyball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volleyball#/media/File:VolleyballCourt.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 A volleyball court consists of a flat area disected by a raised net in the centre. Valid shots pass over the net, but it is possible for the ball (or players) to pass between the net and the floor.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall lists this under the Type 2 diagram. An argument can be made that the net could effectively reach to the ground, or questions asked about anchoring the net top/bottom to the posts at either side with separate straps (adding left and right 'passages' between the elements of the obstacle that is the net) but he clearly intends the loop around the hole to represent the ability to passing over the net one way and under the net the other (or vice-versa) as a topologically irreducible loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Badminton'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Badminton_court_3d.svg&lt;br /&gt;
 (Note that this diagram completely abstracts the under-net area away.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 The net setup is very similar to volleyball, i.e. raised above the ground, with very similar rules regarding valid shots between the areas on each side.&lt;br /&gt;
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 As with Volleyball, Randall feels justified in this being classed as a Class 2, having similar reasons for this as well as possible arguments against.&lt;br /&gt;
 (Note that another form of {{w|Badminton Horse Trials|Badminton}} is arguably far more topologically complex!)&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''High Jump'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A bar supported at height between two supports. The idea is to successfully pass over the bar (without knocking it off, the bar being only supported to the supports, not firmly attached to them), although a competitor who decides to abort their attempt mid-run might well choose to pass underneath to default the attempt with the least physical and organisational aftermath.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With an 'above' and 'below' path to potentially loop around (though not in a single jump), Randall chooses to ascribe this as a Type 2. If a competitor displaces the bar, during a failed jump, it can morph the topology into a Type 1 scenario&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 3 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Third image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around one ot other ''or both'' of the holes in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with two holes in it, towards each end.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Basketball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 Played upon a court, at each end of which is a tall pole (or supporting wall or other structure) from which a 'basket' is projected over the playing area. The earliest baskets were an actual closed-bottom basket, but this required climbing up to retrieve balls successfully landed within them. By removing the bottoms of the baskets and, later, using just a hoop (with or without a bottomless net). Points are scored by sending the ball through the basket-loop ''from above'', to be retrieved for further play as it exits below.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topologically, the edge of each loop is directly connected to the ground, so it can be smplified as a two-hole Type 3 field (the hole in the field is the impassible rim in the basket-loop). This does not preserve the orientation (or intended unidirectional nature) of the basketball-shot, but this is Topology's fault, not Randall's!&lt;br /&gt;
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 American/Canadian Football (&amp;quot;Gridiron&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;'''Football'''&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football_field#/media/File:AmFBfield.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 A unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'Endzones' at each end. Goalposts are either of an &amp;quot;H&amp;quot; shape or essentially a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot; (crossbar, upper verticals and a single utilitarian post, usually set back beyond normal playing area with an extension over to hold the crossbar directly over the goal-line. The verticals are tall but are also conceptually projected upwards without limit, for scoring purposes, should a field-goal/etc be kicked high enough to exceed the structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 3 (a topological hole at each end of the field), which ''may'' represent the bound surrounding the elevated goal-scoring area. Alternately it represents the physical structure of the H-shaped posts which rationalise down to the open-backed ground-touching goalpost footings and the crossbar.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Parallel Bars''' or perhaps ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars&lt;br /&gt;
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 PB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AlejandroonParallelBars.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
 UPB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paksaltoliukin.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Parallel Bars are two horizontal bars supported at roughly hand-height, upon which a gymnast will perform various hand-supported feats strength and coordination. The participant will not usually fully use the space beneath either bar (and between the two supports for the bar), but a  will needs the opportunity to grip fully around the bar, especially when the other hand is released for a complicated body movement and it would be impractical or a different discipline entirely to used a 'filled' bar-support.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Uneven Parallel Bars are two similarly supported bars but at two different (and greater) heights, with the performance being generally that of keeping the grip of both hands (or knees/etc) on either one or other of the bars whilst rotating around its axis, when not actively transfering across between the bars themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Effectively two loops (as per basketball hoops but in a different orientation and scale). The Type 3 topology suggested by Randall is more meaningful for the use of Uneven Parallel Bars, but is probably applicable to the 'even' version in its own way.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 4 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Fourth image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around at least one (and possibly several) of the nine holes in this topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with nine small holes dotted into it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Olympic Swimming'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Swimming_pool_50m_2008.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 In competitive swimming, a swimming pool is often delineated into lanes (for Olympic purposes, Lane 0 to Lane 9, though usually not all will be used) by floating barriers and other markings. These provide a limited amount of wave-reduction but mostly keep competitors from inadvertently drifting across or into each others' paths.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall considers this setup to require nine 'holes' in the competition area, presumably where the floats pass along the surface of the water, to make a Type 4 field of competition. He must then consider it perfectly possible for competitors to pass under ''or over'' these barriers, at will, with complete disregard for the usual competition (and risking disqualification). Otherwise, it might be best considered as (up to) ten ''separate'' Type 1 arenas, with just one swimmer in each.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Croquet'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A game in which a number of metal hoops are placed in the ground such that a given number of players (or teams of players) must each propel their own ball(s), and possibly those of their opponents, through each loop either directly with their own mallet or through contact between balls.&lt;br /&gt;
 Many variations exist with differing numbers of hoops and variations of rules and winning conditions. Randall appears to favour the &amp;quot;Nine-wicket Croquet&amp;quot; popular to North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The topological simplification of nine hoops across a flat surface can be thought of as the Type 4 topology displayed.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Table Football (&amp;quot;'''Foosball'''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Table Soccer&amp;quot;) - as per title-text&lt;br /&gt;
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 An enclosed playing surface with (typically) eight rotatable and extendable bars supporting representative (soccer) 'footballer' figures, ready to strike a small ball across the surface, as might be desired by the two or more opposing players who are each able to control the movements of half of the 'bars' (each team's-worth having a goalkeeper, defence, midfield and attacking 'layer'). By skill and/or luck, the aim is to propel the ball into the opposing's player's goal.&lt;br /&gt;
 On coin-operated games, often the playing area is usually sealed off from direct manual interference, and a ball that goes into the goalmouth finds itself in a lower chamber that stores the ball(s) and deposits them via some feed to carry the ball back up and 'thrown in' towards the centre of the table to start the next attempt at goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With eight bars across, and potentially two goalmouth sinks, this may not actually add up to a nine-hole Type 4 field of play. But presumably Randall is thinking of a version that does.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Skee-Ball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Skee_Ball.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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 An arcade game in which a ball is propelled by the player to land in (according to skill) one of various holes in a target-ridden surface (to return back to the player for another go).&lt;br /&gt;
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 It would depend upon the exact confuguration of Skee-Ball machine but, again, Randall seems to think this matches the Type 4 topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Further (football) examples, unmentioned&lt;br /&gt;
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 Australian Rules Football ('Aussie Rules'&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Footygroundfix.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed oval field with four simple vertical posts upon the perimiter arcs at each end.&lt;br /&gt;
 The ball passing between the (taller) central pair of each end's posts (projected upwards indefinitely) is a Goal. Passing between the outer posts and the adjacent central one (or bouncing off these) is a Behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Type 1 if the protruding poles are rationalised to zero, without respect to scoring zones. Four ''or perhaps six'' topological holes (two or three per end) if respecting the imaginary projections indefinitely upwards for scoring purposes, depending upon if you care about chirality of the ball path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Gaelic football ('Gaelic') - fields also used for Hurling&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football#/media/File:Gaelic_football_pitch_diagram.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular field with an H-shaped set of goalposts at each end, the area below the crossbar often being netted, while the upper verticals being nominally considered as projecting upwards without limit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Valid balls sent over the crossbar and between the verticals are awarded Points; those sent into the netted goalmouth are Goals (equivalent to three Points for scoring purposes).&lt;br /&gt;
 There is no in-play use of the area behind the line of the goalposts, unlike various other football codes with similar-looking posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 |- Topologically, probably considered a Type 1. Goal-shots are into a 'pocket' extension (if nets are used), and Point-shots are topologically indistinguishable from passing over any other part of the boundary line.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Rugby League/Union ('Rugby'/'Rugby Football'/'Football')&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union#/media/File:RugbyPitchMetricDetailed.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'In Goal' areas continuing on behind the 'Try Line' upon which the H-shaped goalposts sit.&lt;br /&gt;
 The field of play extends into this area, the lower parts of the vertical posts play no purpose other than to hold the upper elements in the air. A 'Try' (roughly equivalent to a Touchdown) can be scored by placing the ball somewhere over the line or by touching the base of the (often padded) posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 The cross-bar and the verticals upwards of it (towards and bounded at infinity) count as the hard boundary of a scoring area for &amp;quot;conversions&amp;quot; (taken immediately after a try) and other kicks (penalties and drop-goals).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Might be treated as Type 3 (two holes), unless concerned about whether balls kicked through the goals or taking across the try line weave back one or other side of, or between, the lower vertical posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 Alternately, is a Type 3 for the lower (not more special for scoring than any adjacent lower area) frames, while the open tops (meaningful for scoring purposes) rationalise as topologically irrelevent.&lt;br /&gt;
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(TL;DR; - It's too long, you may not want to read it...) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.213|162.158.34.213]] 21:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The extended discussion in the explanation about the issues with &amp;quot;two-holes for football&amp;quot; goes away if the goals are the H-shaped kind rather then the Y-shaped kind.  Since the comic specifically states that these fields belong to the Topology Department - and are NOT generalized across all sports fields - then we can use the &amp;quot;two hole&amp;quot; information to deduce that the department's fields have the H-shaped kind...which solves 100% of the confusion and eliminates the long (and excessively intricate) digression about other weird forms of &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; with different topologies. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 13:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
- agree [[User:Boatster|Boatster]] ([[User talk:Boatster|talk]]) 15:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this really explainxkcd? Asking since I don't see the obvious stated anywhere. Hell, '''the obvious question and last statement of the image isn't even addressed'''. Why does no one ever want to use the topology department's athletic fields? Its a mystery right? Whats wrong with a soccer field that has a topology like that? It make detecting when the ball crossed the line so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how has no one talked about the geographic/field topology that the last question implies along with the obvious reprecusions (ball roll down hill. stuck in middle. habing to climb. tripping in holes and breaking legs)? Why is everything so freaking high level here? '''Where the hell is the explanation of the joke's? Something is terribly wrong!''' [[Special:Contributions/172.71.82.81|172.71.82.81]] 17:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: One of the more serious problems with explainxkcd is the well-known phenomenon that explaining a joke often kills the humor.  So, quite often, in the course of fully explaining the cartoon - we do indeed shred the actual humor into tiny, tiny fragments.   However, we're here to explain it - and that's that.&lt;br /&gt;
: I guess the joke is that the topology department are so obsessed with the topological shape of their sport's fields that they have lost the shape and dimensions of the fields - and thereby made them useless for playing actual sports on.&lt;br /&gt;
: Two fields that are topologically equivalent are not necessarily capable of being used for playing multiple sports.  Swimming on a croquet field - or playing croquet in a swimming pool does not work.  [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.199|172.69.71.199]] 18:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The goal is to explain the joke in '''laymans terms''' yaknow, &amp;quot;because your dumb&amp;quot;. Since the joke is missed by those outside the fields and don't know how definitions of terms differ in different fields and whatnot. Its the whole purpose. The thing above explains nothing in laymans terms. There is no joke. All there is is an explanation on how field theory and topolgy work and then why the resulting images make sense. Nothing on why this is supposed to be funny. The one thing we actually have to explain at minimum. The joke seems to be that this field which is created for the reasons already described is the actual field we would play on (something completly unaddressed in the explanation above). This could be dangerous with those holes (also unaddressed). And then there is the unadressed question of is this a raised plot of land thats been cut out, or is this all that exist, and kicking the ball off field or falling in a hole goes into a void. This needs to be an explanation for people who are much, much, much dumber. We are not supposed to be explaining field theory, just enough of it to get the joke [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.124|162.158.187.124]] 18:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wondering if any topologists understand American football, and if any football fans understand topology.  I am a football fan who doesn't understand topology.  As requested before, I would like to understand why there is any topological difference in analyzing the American football gameplay and playing field, between H-shaped and Y-shaped goals.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The field-goal-space is functionally a rectangle above the crossbar, and the width between the uprights, but of undefined height, in both the H and Y cases.  It is directly above the back line of the endzone.  The one or two supports for the crossbar are irrelevant to gameplay.  All supports below the bar would be eliminated, if the engineering problem could be solved.  Why does the existence of one vs. two engineering kludges make a critical difference in the number of topological holes?  &lt;br /&gt;
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The endzone, that is, all of the space on the playing field (grass) in front of, and on either side of the goalposts is valid and legal for every player and for the ball on every play, potentially with scoring implications at the termination of the play.  Note that the goal posts for pro football were at one time at the back of the endzone, then from 1933 to 1974, on the goal line, and since 1974, at the back of the endzone again.  NCAA/college football has had the goalposts at the back of the endzone since 1927.  &lt;br /&gt;
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All of the space above the grass, above the endzone, both under and above the height of the horizontal crossbar, are also legal and valid for play by the players and by the ball on every play.  In one case, a play involving a legally kicked field goal, the space above the crossbar and between the uprights, has scoring significance.  A field goal has the same name and the same general mechanics in basketball and in American football.  In neither case do the engineering contrivances supporting and suspending the goal rectangle (football) or circle (basketball) play a conceptual role in the gameplay.  Why, then, do the topologists here in the discussion treat football and basketball differently, and why are H-shaped and Y-shaped goals in football not equivalent?  Randall counts both basketball and football as 'two-holers', but the current public Expain xkcd test says that he is wrong for pro and college football.  So far as I can tell, pro and college football have both used the Y-goal since 1974 or before.  The Y-support for the goalposts is 6.5 feet behind the back of the endzone, and completely outside of the playing field.  I look forward to learning something.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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First [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 12:50, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To me the topological fields look like toilet seats  with three  more or less seashells. --[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Why is football on the two-hole field? Where are the holes? I don't think the goal posts in American football introduce any since they're not closed. Maybe it's soccer? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88|172.69.68.88]] 12:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it is because the goal posts extend into infinity and the topological definition of a hole: something you can draw a circle around that you cannot contract to a point. [the user placed a horizontal rule instead of a signature by accident.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, you might still be able to call them holes. They would be if they were fully rectangles. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Gridiron football's field contains two areas (the endzones) that can be thought of as not being part of the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; field of play, for lack of a better way of saying that pre-coffee. Association football likewise has the areas within the nets. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: My immediate thoughts were also that football (soccer) and football (gridiron) are the same, or indeed the other way round. In both cases the closed hole (assuming not a Y-like vertical holder, but H-like as per rugby football) plays no more or less topological part. Threading through the hole from behind has no relevence in either, and in fact defining it as a region that is 'a special enclosed gap with meaning' (which doesn't really matter in the topology sense, just like golf would be a topologically hole-less surface and as a coffee-cup's inside 'dimple' doesn't count, just its handle-hole that makes it equivalent to a doughnut) actually counts for something in association football. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It's not the space bounded by the goal that is the 'hole' - it's the goal post itself (or in the case of the high jump, it's the bar, not the space under it). The reason soccer doesn't have 'holes' where the goals are is that they're positioned on the edge of the playable area - you can't play around the bars, because as soon as you cross the goal line you're out of play. And it doesn't matter whether it's a Y-shaped or H-shaped goal - topologically, they both form one continuous 'hole'. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't think that's the reason why soccer doesn't have holes. The goalposts in football are also outside the playable area, and so are the poles in volleyball. I think soccer is listed as zero-holes because soccer goals are typically not fixed to the field, and are instead separate objects that can be dragged around and removed from the field. On the other hand, the same is true of volleyball and badminton nets (and those nets contain many holes!) so the comic seems a bit inconsistent.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146|172.70.175.146]] 14:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Speaking from a &amp;quot;football is soccer&amp;quot; nation (well, mostly, the exceptional subregions would argue that it's rugby) a soccer goal is typically ''not'' draggable around the field, but permanent (or a unit frame that has to be painstakingly hoisted out of the ground if you ''don't'' want them in your football stadium, when you repurpose it for other purposes) and it's only the optional net that gets added to the park's permanent goalposts for the official five-aside competition evening or day of the weekend. Draggable goalposts need a further level of intermediate organisation that goes beyond the typical &amp;quot;shipping container with windows cut in it (with shutters bolted over them) as a cheap changing room/officials' cabin&amp;quot; that might be found near the edge of the field but rarely even has as much as a corner flag left in them, between games&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I presume that US 'football' posts are considered holes because they are an infinitely-tall window (even though the delineating poles only reach so high) that is a meaningful slice (where the goal is, you have to loop around it in mutually different unsimplifiable paths to reach the other side), but then that should make for ''two'' holes per end, if you count getting a field-goal and then returning round the sides (or vice-versa) as another valid surface-path.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: ...but, yeah, I can imagine the problem of definition (and cultural famiarity) here is going to produce more problems even than the understanding of topology. One of the less internationally-accepted comics, this. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 18:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: O_O . Randall is united-statesian, so football means the thing where you tackle each other and hold the ball in your hands. I've never been into football, and I've always seen it with two large goal posts with a horizontal bar between them. The hole is formed under the horizontal bar. When I played football in computer games, you had to get the ball over the horizontal bar. After this, I'll search the web to see if the horizontal bar still exists. Regarding soccer, there aren't two holes because the nets are closed at the back. You cannot pass through the field structure by going through a goal: you bump into the net the ball bounces off of when a goal is made. So, Randall is considering soccer fields topologically equivalent to a plane (ignoring all the holes in the netting). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.229|172.70.114.229]] 14:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I looked up the goal thing and found that what I was imagining are called H-frame or H-style goal posts. Not the norm; the have two posts instead of one. I'm a weirdo that I thought they were what was up. But Randall could have been thinking of H-frame goals. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 15:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Many high school and amateur football fields still use H-frame goals. The resulting space can be used as a goal in some other sports. That does raise the question of why they didn't just have one field with lots of holes, and just plug the ones up that aren't needed for the sport being played. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tetherball, in many variants, does contain an obstruction -- the pole, which you're not allowed to touch. The Topology Department is getting tired of having to switch out the fields. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But you can surely jump over it, so it's topologically the same as a zero-height pole... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Croquet has six hoops and a peg. How does that make for nine holes? Is it including the opponents' two balls as holes? And if so, why aren't opposing players counted as holes in the other sports? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquet#Nine-wicket] 'Nine-wicket croquet, sometimes called &amp;quot;backyard croquet&amp;quot;, is played mainly in Canada and the United States, and is the game most recreational players in those countries call simply &amp;quot;croquet&amp;quot;.' (Wikipedia) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 18:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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American football goals are Y-shaped. Rugby goals are H-shaped. Did... did Randall get those confused? Also, I fail to see how basketball and American football get two, croquet gets a bunch, but soccer gets zero. Aren't soccer goals (in-game at least) basically the same shape as croquet wickets, just waaaay bigger? Granted, I don't know anything about topology and I came to this wiki specifically cuz I'm dumb, so I'd love if someone could splain this all for me ;) --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.170|172.69.69.170]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The soccer goal has a net, so the ball can't go through it. Topologically it's just a wall (Randall seems to be ignoring all the tiny holes in netting, presumaby because they're smaller than the balls so they're insignificant to the sports). [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with that explanation - the net is the only thing that makes the soccer field not to have holes. It should be included in the comic explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
::The hole for the volleyball only makes sense taking in account that the bottom of the net doesn't reach the floor, although this space is not used in the game.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree about soccer; the explanation should be that soccer goals (with net) are topologically part of the plane. The same is true of ice hockey, even though you can travel &amp;quot;around&amp;quot; the net, it is topologically part of the field with no holes. As for (American) football, the topology only makes sense for H-shaped goals, which are more often seen on primary/secondary play fields than in higher level play. [[User:Aramisuvla|Aramisuvla]] ([[User talk:Aramisuvla|talk]]) 16:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. Soccer goals are shaped such that their bottoms connect smoothly to the ground in a single continuous piece. So they are topologically equivalent to the plane. This wouldn't be the case if not for the back part holding the net. That's unlike basketball hoops, which are actual holes. The holes in football must be referring to the H-shaped uprights that were standard until 1967 in professional leagues and are still seen in some high school fields and even a couple college fields. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.128|172.70.131.128]] 03:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::EDIT: I should point out that the net actually has, like, hundreds of holes. But I think the net here is being treated as a continuous sheet. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 03:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I mentioned all the little holes in the net in my comment that you're replying to. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The group link pointing to group (mathematics) doesn't bear any relation with the sentence or the comic. I would remove the link.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The joke seems important to me because their no consideration of the word 'field' being a math pun, and it raises the idea in readers. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.74|162.158.79.74]] 15:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:When I first saw the comic title I assumed that part of the joke would be a pun on the word &amp;quot;field&amp;quot; being used for both sports and math. And even though the comic doesn't explicitly make this joke, I'll bet it inspired Randall. It's worth mentioning. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In rugby (both League and Union) the goalposts are within the field of play: significant game activity takes place behind them. This is not the case with soccer. I have no clue what difference this makes topologically.{{unsigned ip|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been thinking about this classification system, and can't quite work out the baseline for it. I think we're supposed to assume that the whole 3d manifold is represented in a 2d 'field', or at least any path through the air flattened to an arbitrarily thin surface 'bulge' during topological rationalisation. But there are several possible field-of-play definitions we can be using...&lt;br /&gt;
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** For ball-sports (or indeed other play-objects) this could be where the item can travel. But in this case I think almost 'all' codes of football are Type 1 (first of the topologies) as almost every football code deals with both 'goal' and 'endzone' (where valid) as the same as a hole (dimple) in golf... It goes into it and it might as well come out of it again, there's no continuation of play 'through the defined' space, and so the topological hole (the barrier defined the scoring membrane's edge) never comes into play.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Unlike in Gridiron, where a touchdown doesn't even need the 'ball' to touch the ground, rugby (league and/or union, and possibly further derivatives) requires this and a player can fail to score a Try if (s)he passes bodily over the line but is unable to plant the ball (not allowed to throw/drop it) and I'd have to check what happens if the defending player(s) keeping them sufficiently off the ground (assuming that's done in an allowable fashion) returns the intended scorer back over the line via a circuitous route around /back-through the suspended goal-mouth (above the cross-bar, between the verticals)... They keep changing those kinds of technical rules, so I can't be sure of the current technicalities involved.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Likewise, a volleyball or shuttlecock that passes under the net-top-edge is out of play, so it is really a Type 1 under this definition. (Might as well be a solid barrier, floor-to-top-height, rather than a thin bar or a partial net.)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;The basketball case is interesting. Although a dunk ends the play of the ball, I'm not sure if the path of a ball ''up'' through the hoop does not. In that circumstance I could believe it is a Type 3 case, but if that's a game-stopping thing then Type 1.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Croquet is indeed a varying number of paths through (I ''think'') an unordered set of holes, or at least nothing to say that they can be taken out of order (or 'un-passed-through'), and you can't necessarily restrict a 'play' to one shot at a time if certain conditions allow you to play on, so dodging in and around all scoring zones defined by the hoops gives you something like.&lt;br /&gt;
** For player/competitor/participant movement, similarly passing under the bar is not valid for the High Jump.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I don't think there's anything to stop such transitions upon the Parallel Bars, but it is much more a feature of the ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars, whereas from what I've seen of the sport, the even-variety tends to be topologically used much as the pommel-horse.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Players of football (American variations certainly, rugby of course, proper football if you don't bother with the nets) are not restricted from passing through the scoring area (either way) on a circuitous path that may be off the field of play but isn't off the field ''of players''.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;For the Olympic Swimming, I'm not suring porpoising over and under the lane-delineations is a thing, so I would have said that (under this definition), it should be a number of entirely disconnected Type 1 'zones', with no valid movement between them at all.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;So far as I'm aware, there are no rules for/against croquet ''players'' passing through hoops (intentionally or perhaps because they severely annoyed an opponent) so maybe that stands in this case, too. Ditto for basketball, if hoisted. Although in both cases it may prevent the balls passing through immediately afterwards, without game-stoppage to resolve the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
* If it's a game's-worth of play, then the status of the basket in basketball (unlike the pocket in snooker/pool/some-versions-of-billards) might be defined by the topological-hole-that-is-the-physical-hole's-edge, rather than treat it as the old basket-with-bottom from which the precusor to the net-ring almost immediately evolved. And the same could be said about the suspended scoring-hole (whether supported as Y-post or an H-post, the lower limb(s) are merely physical necessities that play little part in the gameplay specifics except as a general hazard to avoid, it is the crossbar and verticals-to-infinity (and the infinity itself) that is the gap through which a circular path cannot be rationalised back to a point). For most of the rest (including the participant-paths, with there being nothing to stop the traversal of a footballer of whatever stripe jumping the cross-bar, but that may only mean something in the topology of some variations, as far as the game is concerned...) it seems meaningless. Even in an Aussie Rules field with four 'posts' per end, and probably more interest in whether jumping onto an opposing player is against the rules or indeed an entirely legitimate and expected tactic.&lt;br /&gt;
* The general arena-wide area is a further superset (perhaps with no additional complications, i.e. exactly congruent) of the field-of-play(er) definition. For coin-operated table-top games (foosball/table-football) the path from each goal may (additionally to any on-top topological loop-disconnections) force passage of the ball underneath and out into the new-play insertion spot. So add a couple more (unidirectional) paths, at least. Or six for a coin-operated pool/etc table, and I assume the Skeeball (not something I'm familar with, at least by that name) is defined that way already...&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I found I needed to say a lot more than I thought I did, so the first point (and sub-points) went on a bit and I cut down what I might have said for the following points. I may come back to re-edit this. I've got a handy little table, in mind, but I'm not sure it'll work much better to summarise everything I've been cogitating about for most of today while away from the keyboard... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;hole&amp;quot; in the goalpost in American football is relevant for field goals, not touchdowns. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm not sure it's relevent for either. The field-goal passes over the crossbar and between (but also maybe above) the raised verticles, but that route is topologically the same as one above the crossbar but wide, which is in turn the same as one rolling along the ground and wide... Or indeed carried across just like most touchdowns (any that isn't run through the middle of the H-post', un-netted but otherwise soccer-like 'goalmouth' lower section).&lt;br /&gt;
::Possibly running around the post(s) that support the field-goal defining beams counts as the path around the topological hole because any change to that route that attempts to transform it to a useless loop within the main field of play must either (at some point) pass through the support for the crossbar or else wholly through the region that defines (in one direction, at least) the goal-scoring area. Can anyone get Word Of God in his intentions, here? It looks weird, to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 03:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As has been alluded to, this must be an American university's topology department. A rest-of-the-world university would include four holes for cricket. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 17:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is my (not yet properly tabularised, or properly wikimedialinked) idea of all the kinds of information I'd suggest go in there.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;But it's a monstrocity and I don't want to remove the very useful existing information already in the Explanation (that may even be better/more accurate than my interpretation).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;...so here it is for review. If anything in it is useful to anybody else as inspiration for future edits then... well, your choice!&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path looping around this area can be moved at will and shrunk to just one point that could result from any other path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with no other notable features.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The playing area for baseball contains many important physical features for scoring and playing purposes, but is essentially one flat area (and continuous airspace) when you disregard the elevation of the pitcher's mound or even the outfield fence  and stands (for any ball that carries that far, upon being hit).&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstruted rectangular playing area with a goal formed of two vertical posts connected between the tops by a crossbar. In official competition (and where otherwise desired) there is a net stretched behind each goalmouth to stop any ball that passes completely through it (with or without hitting any of the posts), although games can be played with no net in place, or in street/schoolyard situations by goals defined only as a goalpost-like markings painted upon a solid wall (hitting the  wall within the bounds of the painted line constitutes a goal, give or take arguments about whether it counts if it hit the line).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 1 (a single unobstructed zone), which is likely due to the 'pocket' of the net-backed goalmouth being nothing more than a straight extension of the playing area.&lt;br /&gt;
 However, an un-netted set of goalposts might be considered a Type 3, with each set of goalposts defining an impassible frame (the hole in the topology, ''not'' the same thing as the physical hole formed by the goal-frame) within which the balls can freely pass and return ''not'' through the goalmouth, or vice-versa.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A ball attached to a cord anchored at the tip of a pole that is in turn stuck in the ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Although the mechanism used to allow free swivelling of the tether around the pole may be quite complex (including being looped around a helical thread to help register how many excess orbits of the pole the ball has made in either direction), the basic premise can be simplified to a single extrusion from the playing area, which is topologically identical to a playing area with no extrusion at all. Thus Randall properly states this as a Type 1 variant.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A volleyball court consists of a flat area disected by a raised net in the centre. Valid shots pass over the net, but it is possible for the ball (or players) to pass between the net and the floor.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall lists this under the Type 2 diagram. An argument can be made that the net could effectively reach to the ground, or questions asked about anchoring the net top/bottom to the posts at either side with separate straps (adding left and right 'passages' between the elements of the obstacle that is the net) but he clearly intends the loop around the hole to represent the ability to passing over the net one way and under the net the other (or vice-versa) as a topologically irreducible loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A bar supported at height between two supports. The idea is to successfully pass over the bar (without knocking it off, the bar being only supported to the supports, not firmly attached to them), although a competitor who decides to abort their attempt mid-run might well choose to pass underneath to default the attempt with the least physical and organisational aftermath.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Played upon a court, at each end of which is a tall pole (or supporting wall or other structure) from which a 'basket' is projected over the playing area. The earliest baskets were an actual closed-bottom basket, but this required climbing up to retrieve balls successfully landed within them. By removing the bottoms of the baskets and, later, using just a hoop (with or without a bottomless net). Points are scored by sending the ball through the basket-loop ''from above'', to be retrieved for further play as it exits below.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topologically, the edge of each loop is directly connected to the ground, so it can be smplified as a two-hole Type 3 field (the hole in the field is the impassible rim in the basket-loop). This does not preserve the orientation (or intended unidirectional nature) of the basketball-shot, but this is Topology's fault, not Randall's!&lt;br /&gt;
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 A unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'Endzones' at each end. Goalposts are either of an &amp;quot;H&amp;quot; shape or essentially a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot; (crossbar, upper verticals and a single utilitarian post, usually set back beyond normal playing area with an extension over to hold the crossbar directly over the goal-line. The verticals are tall but are also conceptually projected upwards without limit, for scoring purposes, should a field-goal/etc be kicked high enough to exceed the structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 3 (a topological hole at each end of the field), which ''may'' represent the bound surrounding the elevated goal-scoring area. Alternately it represents the physical structure of the H-shaped posts which rationalise down to the open-backed ground-touching goalpost footings and the crossbar.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Parallel Bars are two horizontal bars supported at roughly hand-height, upon which a gymnast will perform various hand-supported feats strength and coordination. The participant will not usually fully use the space beneath either bar (and between the two supports for the bar), but a  will needs the opportunity to grip fully around the bar, especially when the other hand is released for a complicated body movement and it would be impractical or a different discipline entirely to used a 'filled' bar-support.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Uneven Parallel Bars are two similarly supported bars but at two different (and greater) heights, with the performance being generally that of keeping the grip of both hands (or knees/etc) on either one or other of the bars whilst rotating around its axis, when not actively transfering across between the bars themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Effectively two loops (as per basketball hoops but in a different orientation and scale). The Type 3 topology suggested by Randall is more meaningful for the use of Uneven Parallel Bars, but is probably applicable to the 'even' version in its own way.&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Fourth image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around at least one (and possibly several) of the nine holes in this topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with nine small holes dotted into it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Olympic Swimming'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 In competitive swimming, a swimming pool is often delineated into lanes (for Olympic purposes, Lane 0 to Lane 9, though usually not all will be used) by floating barriers and other markings. These provide a limited amount of wave-reduction but mostly keep competitors from inadvertently drifting across or into each others' paths.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall considers this setup to require nine 'holes' in the competition area, presumably where the floats pass along the surface of the water, to make a Type 4 field of competition. He must then consider it perfectly possible for competitors to pass under ''or over'' these barriers, at will, with complete disregard for the usual competition (and risking disqualification). Otherwise, it might be best considered as (up to) ten ''separate'' Type 1 arenas, with just one swimmer in each.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Croquet'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A game in which a number of metal hoops are placed in the ground such that a given number of players (or teams of players) must each propel their own ball(s), and possibly those of their opponents, through each loop either directly with their own mallet or through contact between balls.&lt;br /&gt;
 Many variations exist with differing numbers of hoops and variations of rules and winning conditions. Randall appears to favour the &amp;quot;Nine-wicket Croquet&amp;quot; popular to North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The topological simplification of nine hoops across a flat surface can be thought of as the Type 4 topology displayed.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Table Football (&amp;quot;'''Foosball'''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Table Soccer&amp;quot;) - as per title-text&lt;br /&gt;
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 An enclosed playing surface with (typically) eight rotatable and extendable bars supporting representative (soccer) 'footballer' figures, ready to strike a small ball across the surface, as might be desired by the two or more opposing players who are each able to control the movements of half of the 'bars' (each team's-worth having a goalkeeper, defence, midfield and attacking 'layer'). By skill and/or luck, the aim is to propel the ball into the opposing's player's goal.&lt;br /&gt;
 On coin-operated games, often the playing area is usually sealed off from direct manual interference, and a ball that goes into the goalmouth finds itself in a lower chamber that stores the ball(s) and deposits them via some feed to carry the ball back up and 'thrown in' towards the centre of the table to start the next attempt at goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With eight bars across, and potentially two goalmouth sinks, this may not actually add up to a nine-hole Type 4 field of play. But presumably Randall is thinking of a version that does.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Skee-Ball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 An arcade game in which a ball is propelled by the player to land in (according to skill) one of various holes in a target-ridden surface (to return back to the player for another go).&lt;br /&gt;
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 It would depend upon the exact confuguration of Skee-Ball machine but, again, Randall seems to think this matches the Type 4 topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Further (football) examples, unmentioned&lt;br /&gt;
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 Australian Rules Football ('Aussie Rules'&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed oval field with four simple vertical posts upon the perimiter arcs at each end.&lt;br /&gt;
 The ball passing between the (taller) central pair of each end's posts (projected upwards indefinitely) is a Goal. Passing between the outer posts and the adjacent central one (or bouncing off these) is a Behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Type 1 if the protruding poles are rationalised to zero, without respect to scoring zones. Four ''or perhaps six'' topological holes (two or three per end) if respecting the imaginary projections indefinitely upwards for scoring purposes, depending upon if you care about chirality of the ball path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Gaelic football ('Gaelic') - fields also used for Hurling&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular field with an H-shaped set of goalposts at each end, the area below the crossbar often being netted, while the upper verticals being nominally considered as projecting upwards without limit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Valid balls sent over the crossbar and between the verticals are awarded Points; those sent into the netted goalmouth are Goals (equivalent to three Points for scoring purposes).&lt;br /&gt;
 There is no in-play use of the area behind the line of the goalposts, unlike various other football codes with similar-looking posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 |- Topologically, probably considered a Type 1. Goal-shots are into a 'pocket' extension (if nets are used), and Point-shots are topologically indistinguishable from passing over any other part of the boundary line.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Rugby League/Union ('Rugby'/'Rugby Football'/'Football')&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'In Goal' areas continuing on behind the 'Try Line' upon which the H-shaped goalposts sit.&lt;br /&gt;
 The field of play extends into this area, the lower parts of the vertical posts play no purpose other than to hold the upper elements in the air. A 'Try' (roughly equivalent to a Touchdown) can be scored by placing the ball somewhere over the line or by touching the base of the (often padded) posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 The cross-bar and the verticals upwards of it (towards and bounded at infinity) count as the hard boundary of a scoring area for &amp;quot;conversions&amp;quot; (taken immediately after a try) and other kicks (penalties and drop-goals).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Might be treated as Type 3 (two holes), unless concerned about whether balls kicked through the goals or taking across the try line weave back one or other side of, or between, the lower vertical posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 Alternately, is a Type 3 for the lower (not more special for scoring than any adjacent lower area) frames, while the open tops (meaningful for scoring purposes) rationalise as topologically irrelevent.&lt;br /&gt;
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(TL;DR; - It's too long, you may not want to read it...) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.213|162.158.34.213]] 21:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The extended discussion in the explanation about the issues with &amp;quot;two-holes for football&amp;quot; goes away if the goals are the H-shaped kind rather then the Y-shaped kind.  Since the comic specifically states that these fields belong to the Topology Department - and are NOT generalized across all sports fields - then we can use the &amp;quot;two hole&amp;quot; information to deduce that the department's fields have the H-shaped kind...which solves 100% of the confusion and eliminates the long (and excessively intricate) digression about other weird forms of &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; with different topologies. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 13:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this really explainxkcd? Asking since I don't see the obvious stated anywhere. Hell, '''the obvious question and last statement of the image isn't even addressed'''. Why does no one ever want to use the topology department's athletic fields? Its a mystery right? Whats wrong with a soccer field that has a topology like that? It make detecting when the ball crossed the line so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how has no one talked about the geographic/field topology that the last question implies along with the obvious reprecusions (ball roll down hill. stuck in middle. habing to climb. tripping in holes and breaking legs)? Why is everything so freaking high level here? '''Where the hell is the explanation of the joke's? Something is terribly wrong!''' [[Special:Contributions/172.71.82.81|172.71.82.81]] 17:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: One of the more serious problems with explainxkcd is the well-known phenomenon that explaining a joke often kills the humor.  So, quite often, in the course of fully explaining the cartoon - we do indeed shred the actual humor into tiny, tiny fragments.   However, we're here to explain it - and that's that.&lt;br /&gt;
: I guess the joke is that the topology department are so obsessed with the topological shape of their sport's fields that they have lost the shape and dimensions of the fields - and thereby made them useless for playing actual sports on.&lt;br /&gt;
: Two fields that are topologically equivalent are not necessarily capable of being used for playing multiple sports.  Swimming on a croquet field - or playing croquet in a swimming pool does not work.  [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.199|172.69.71.199]] 18:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The goal is to explain the joke in '''laymans terms''' yaknow, &amp;quot;because your dumb&amp;quot;. Since the joke is missed by those outside the fields and don't know how definitions of terms differ in different fields and whatnot. Its the whole purpose. The thing above explains nothing in laymans terms. There is no joke. All there is is an explanation on how field theory and topolgy work and then why the resulting images make sense. Nothing on why this is supposed to be funny. The one thing we actually have to explain at minimum. The joke seems to be that this field which is created for the reasons already described is the actual field we would play on (something completly unaddressed in the explanation above). This could be dangerous with those holes (also unaddressed). And then there is the unadressed question of is this a raised plot of land thats been cut out, or is this all that exist, and kicking the ball off field or falling in a hole goes into a void. This needs to be an explanation for people who are much, much, much dumber. We are not supposed to be explaining field theory, just enough of it to get the joke [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.124|162.158.187.124]] 18:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wondering if any topologists understand American football, and if any football fans understand topology.  I am a football fan who doesn't understand topology.  As requested before, I would like to understand why there is any topological difference in analyzing the American football gameplay and playing field, between H-shaped and Y-shaped goals.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The field-goal-space is functionally a rectangle above the crossbar, and the width between the uprights, but of undefined height, in both the H and Y cases.  The one or two supports for the crossbar are irrelevant to gameplay.  All supports below the bar would be eliminated, if the engineering problem could be solved.  Why does the existence of one vs. two engineering kludges make a critical difference in the number of topological holes?  &lt;br /&gt;
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The endzone, that is, all of the space on the playing field (grass) behind, in front of, and on either side of the goalposts is valid and legal for every player and for the ball on every play, potentially with scoring implications at the termination of the play.  All of the space above the grass, above the endzone, both under and above the horizontal crossbar, are also legal and valid for play by the players and by the ball on every play.  In one case, a play involving a legally kicked field goal, the space above the crossbar and between the uprights, has scoring significance.  A field goal has the same name and the same general mechanics in basketball and in American football.  In neither case do the engineering contrivances supporting and suspending the goal rectangle (football) or circle (basketball) play a conceptual role in the gameplay.  Why, then, do the topologists here treat football and basketball differently, and why are H-shaped and Y-shaped goals in football not equivalent?  I look forward to learning something.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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First [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 12:50, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To me the topological fields look like toilet seats  with three  more or less seashells. --[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Why is football on the two-hole field? Where are the holes? I don't think the goal posts in American football introduce any since they're not closed. Maybe it's soccer? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88|172.69.68.88]] 12:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it is because the goal posts extend into infinity and the topological definition of a hole: something you can draw a circle around that you cannot contract to a point. [the user placed a horizontal rule instead of a signature by accident.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, you might still be able to call them holes. They would be if they were fully rectangles. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Gridiron football's field contains two areas (the endzones) that can be thought of as not being part of the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; field of play, for lack of a better way of saying that pre-coffee. Association football likewise has the areas within the nets. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: My immediate thoughts were also that football (soccer) and football (gridiron) are the same, or indeed the other way round. In both cases the closed hole (assuming not a Y-like vertical holder, but H-like as per rugby football) plays no more or less topological part. Threading through the hole from behind has no relevence in either, and in fact defining it as a region that is 'a special enclosed gap with meaning' (which doesn't really matter in the topology sense, just like golf would be a topologically hole-less surface and as a coffee-cup's inside 'dimple' doesn't count, just its handle-hole that makes it equivalent to a doughnut) actually counts for something in association football. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It's not the space bounded by the goal that is the 'hole' - it's the goal post itself (or in the case of the high jump, it's the bar, not the space under it). The reason soccer doesn't have 'holes' where the goals are is that they're positioned on the edge of the playable area - you can't play around the bars, because as soon as you cross the goal line you're out of play. And it doesn't matter whether it's a Y-shaped or H-shaped goal - topologically, they both form one continuous 'hole'. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't think that's the reason why soccer doesn't have holes. The goalposts in football are also outside the playable area, and so are the poles in volleyball. I think soccer is listed as zero-holes because soccer goals are typically not fixed to the field, and are instead separate objects that can be dragged around and removed from the field. On the other hand, the same is true of volleyball and badminton nets (and those nets contain many holes!) so the comic seems a bit inconsistent.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146|172.70.175.146]] 14:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Speaking from a &amp;quot;football is soccer&amp;quot; nation (well, mostly, the exceptional subregions would argue that it's rugby) a soccer goal is typically ''not'' draggable around the field, but permanent (or a unit frame that has to be painstakingly hoisted out of the ground if you ''don't'' want them in your football stadium, when you repurpose it for other purposes) and it's only the optional net that gets added to the park's permanent goalposts for the official five-aside competition evening or day of the weekend. Draggable goalposts need a further level of intermediate organisation that goes beyond the typical &amp;quot;shipping container with windows cut in it (with shutters bolted over them) as a cheap changing room/officials' cabin&amp;quot; that might be found near the edge of the field but rarely even has as much as a corner flag left in them, between games&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I presume that US 'football' posts are considered holes because they are an infinitely-tall window (even though the delineating poles only reach so high) that is a meaningful slice (where the goal is, you have to loop around it in mutually different unsimplifiable paths to reach the other side), but then that should make for ''two'' holes per end, if you count getting a field-goal and then returning round the sides (or vice-versa) as another valid surface-path.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: ...but, yeah, I can imagine the problem of definition (and cultural famiarity) here is going to produce more problems even than the understanding of topology. One of the less internationally-accepted comics, this. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 18:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: O_O . Randall is united-statesian, so football means the thing where you tackle each other and hold the ball in your hands. I've never been into football, and I've always seen it with two large goal posts with a horizontal bar between them. The hole is formed under the horizontal bar. When I played football in computer games, you had to get the ball over the horizontal bar. After this, I'll search the web to see if the horizontal bar still exists. Regarding soccer, there aren't two holes because the nets are closed at the back. You cannot pass through the field structure by going through a goal: you bump into the net the ball bounces off of when a goal is made. So, Randall is considering soccer fields topologically equivalent to a plane (ignoring all the holes in the netting). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.229|172.70.114.229]] 14:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I looked up the goal thing and found that what I was imagining are called H-frame or H-style goal posts. Not the norm; the have two posts instead of one. I'm a weirdo that I thought they were what was up. But Randall could have been thinking of H-frame goals. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 15:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Many high school and amateur football fields still use H-frame goals. The resulting space can be used as a goal in some other sports. That does raise the question of why they didn't just have one field with lots of holes, and just plug the ones up that aren't needed for the sport being played. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tetherball, in many variants, does contain an obstruction -- the pole, which you're not allowed to touch. The Topology Department is getting tired of having to switch out the fields. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But you can surely jump over it, so it's topologically the same as a zero-height pole... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Tetherball does not have a *hole*. The pole, rope, and ball are just a stretched out bit of the continuous surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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Croquet has six hoops and a peg. How does that make for nine holes? Is it including the opponents' two balls as holes? And if so, why aren't opposing players counted as holes in the other sports? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquet#Nine-wicket] 'Nine-wicket croquet, sometimes called &amp;quot;backyard croquet&amp;quot;, is played mainly in Canada and the United States, and is the game most recreational players in those countries call simply &amp;quot;croquet&amp;quot;.' (Wikipedia) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 18:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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American football goals are Y-shaped. Rugby goals are H-shaped. Did... did Randall get those confused? Also, I fail to see how basketball and American football get two, croquet gets a bunch, but soccer gets zero. Aren't soccer goals (in-game at least) basically the same shape as croquet wickets, just waaaay bigger? Granted, I don't know anything about topology and I came to this wiki specifically cuz I'm dumb, so I'd love if someone could splain this all for me ;) --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.170|172.69.69.170]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The soccer goal has a net, so the ball can't go through it. Topologically it's just a wall (Randall seems to be ignoring all the tiny holes in netting, presumaby because they're smaller than the balls so they're insignificant to the sports). [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with that explanation - the net is the only thing that makes the soccer field not to have holes. It should be included in the comic explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
::The hole for the volleyball only makes sense taking in account that the bottom of the net doesn't reach the floor, although this space is not used in the game.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree about soccer; the explanation should be that soccer goals (with net) are topologically part of the plane. The same is true of ice hockey, even though you can travel &amp;quot;around&amp;quot; the net, it is topologically part of the field with no holes. As for (American) football, the topology only makes sense for H-shaped goals, which are more often seen on primary/secondary play fields than in higher level play. [[User:Aramisuvla|Aramisuvla]] ([[User talk:Aramisuvla|talk]]) 16:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. Soccer goals are shaped such that their bottoms connect smoothly to the ground in a single continuous piece. So they are topologically equivalent to the plane. This wouldn't be the case if not for the back part holding the net. That's unlike basketball hoops, which are actual holes. The holes in football must be referring to the H-shaped uprights that were standard until 1967 in professional leagues and are still seen in some high school fields and even a couple college fields. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.128|172.70.131.128]] 03:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::EDIT: I should point out that the net actually has, like, hundreds of holes. But I think the net here is being treated as a continuous sheet. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 03:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I mentioned all the little holes in the net in my comment that you're replying to. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The group link pointing to group (mathematics) doesn't bear any relation with the sentence or the comic. I would remove the link.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The joke seems important to me because their no consideration of the word 'field' being a math pun, and it raises the idea in readers. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.74|162.158.79.74]] 15:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:When I first saw the comic title I assumed that part of the joke would be a pun on the word &amp;quot;field&amp;quot; being used for both sports and math. And even though the comic doesn't explicitly make this joke, I'll bet it inspired Randall. It's worth mentioning. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In rugby (both League and Union) the goalposts are within the field of play: significant game activity takes place behind them. This is not the case with soccer. I have no clue what difference this makes topologically.{{unsigned ip|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been thinking about this classification system, and can't quite work out the baseline for it. I think we're supposed to assume that the whole 3d manifold is represented in a 2d 'field', or at least any path through the air flattened to an arbitrarily thin surface 'bulge' during topological rationalisation. But there are several possible field-of-play definitions we can be using...&lt;br /&gt;
* A single valid 'play' or traversal&lt;br /&gt;
** For ball-sports (or indeed other play-objects) this could be where the item can travel. But in this case I think almost 'all' codes of football are Type 1 (first of the topologies) as almost every football code deals with both 'goal' and 'endzone' (where valid) as the same as a hole (dimple) in golf... It goes into it and it might as well come out of it again, there's no continuation of play 'through the defined' space, and so the topological hole (the barrier defined the scoring membrane's edge) never comes into play.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Unlike in Gridiron, where a touchdown doesn't even need the 'ball' to touch the ground, rugby (league and/or union, and possibly further derivatives) requires this and a player can fail to score a Try if (s)he passes bodily over the line but is unable to plant the ball (not allowed to throw/drop it) and I'd have to check what happens if the defending player(s) keeping them sufficiently off the ground (assuming that's done in an allowable fashion) returns the intended scorer back over the line via a circuitous route around /back-through the suspended goal-mouth (above the cross-bar, between the verticals)... They keep changing those kinds of technical rules, so I can't be sure of the current technicalities involved.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Likewise, a volleyball or shuttlecock that passes under the net-top-edge is out of play, so it is really a Type 1 under this definition. (Might as well be a solid barrier, floor-to-top-height, rather than a thin bar or a partial net.)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;The basketball case is interesting. Although a dunk ends the play of the ball, I'm not sure if the path of a ball ''up'' through the hoop does not. In that circumstance I could believe it is a Type 3 case, but if that's a game-stopping thing then Type 1.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Croquet is indeed a varying number of paths through (I ''think'') an unordered set of holes, or at least nothing to say that they can be taken out of order (or 'un-passed-through'), and you can't necessarily restrict a 'play' to one shot at a time if certain conditions allow you to play on, so dodging in and around all scoring zones defined by the hoops gives you something like.&lt;br /&gt;
** For player/competitor/participant movement, similarly passing under the bar is not valid for the High Jump.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I don't think there's anything to stop such transitions upon the Parallel Bars, but it is much more a feature of the ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars, whereas from what I've seen of the sport, the even-variety tends to be topologically used much as the pommel-horse.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Players of football (American variations certainly, rugby of course, proper football if you don't bother with the nets) are not restricted from passing through the scoring area (either way) on a circuitous path that may be off the field of play but isn't off the field ''of players''.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;For the Olympic Swimming, I'm not suring porpoising over and under the lane-delineations is a thing, so I would have said that (under this definition), it should be a number of entirely disconnected Type 1 'zones', with no valid movement between them at all.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;So far as I'm aware, there are no rules for/against croquet ''players'' passing through hoops (intentionally or perhaps because they severely annoyed an opponent) so maybe that stands in this case, too. Ditto for basketball, if hoisted. Although in both cases it may prevent the balls passing through immediately afterwards, without game-stoppage to resolve the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
* If it's a game's-worth of play, then the status of the basket in basketball (unlike the pocket in snooker/pool/some-versions-of-billards) might be defined by the topological-hole-that-is-the-physical-hole's-edge, rather than treat it as the old basket-with-bottom from which the precusor to the net-ring almost immediately evolved. And the same could be said about the suspended scoring-hole (whether supported as Y-post or an H-post, the lower limb(s) are merely physical necessities that play little part in the gameplay specifics except as a general hazard to avoid, it is the crossbar and verticals-to-infinity (and the infinity itself) that is the gap through which a circular path cannot be rationalised back to a point). For most of the rest (including the participant-paths, with there being nothing to stop the traversal of a footballer of whatever stripe jumping the cross-bar, but that may only mean something in the topology of some variations, as far as the game is concerned...) it seems meaningless. Even in an Aussie Rules field with four 'posts' per end, and probably more interest in whether jumping onto an opposing player is against the rules or indeed an entirely legitimate and expected tactic.&lt;br /&gt;
* The general arena-wide area is a further superset (perhaps with no additional complications, i.e. exactly congruent) of the field-of-play(er) definition. For coin-operated table-top games (foosball/table-football) the path from each goal may (additionally to any on-top topological loop-disconnections) force passage of the ball underneath and out into the new-play insertion spot. So add a couple more (unidirectional) paths, at least. Or six for a coin-operated pool/etc table, and I assume the Skeeball (not something I'm familar with, at least by that name) is defined that way already...&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I found I needed to say a lot more than I thought I did, so the first point (and sub-points) went on a bit and I cut down what I might have said for the following points. I may come back to re-edit this. I've got a handy little table, in mind, but I'm not sure it'll work much better to summarise everything I've been cogitating about for most of today while away from the keyboard... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;hole&amp;quot; in the goalpost in American football is relevant for field goals, not touchdowns. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm not sure it's relevent for either. The field-goal passes over the crossbar and between (but also maybe above) the raised verticles, but that route is topologically the same as one above the crossbar but wide, which is in turn the same as one rolling along the ground and wide... Or indeed carried across just like most touchdowns (any that isn't run through the middle of the H-post', un-netted but otherwise soccer-like 'goalmouth' lower section).&lt;br /&gt;
::Possibly running around the post(s) that support the field-goal defining beams counts as the path around the topological hole because any change to that route that attempts to transform it to a useless loop within the main field of play must either (at some point) pass through the support for the crossbar or else wholly through the region that defines (in one direction, at least) the goal-scoring area. Can anyone get Word Of God in his intentions, here? It looks weird, to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 03:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As has been alluded to, this must be an American university's topology department. A rest-of-the-world university would include four holes for cricket. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 17:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is my (not yet properly tabularised, or properly wikimedialinked) idea of all the kinds of information I'd suggest go in there.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;But it's a monstrocity and I don't want to remove the very useful existing information already in the Explanation (that may even be better/more accurate than my interpretation).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;...so here it is for review. If anything in it is useful to anybody else as inspiration for future edits then... well, your choice!&lt;br /&gt;
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 Field diagram&lt;br /&gt;
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 Usage description&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topology&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 1 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (First image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path looping around this area can be moved at will and shrunk to just one point that could result from any other path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with no other notable features.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Baseball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Partial!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball#/media/File:Baseball_diamond.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 The playing area for baseball contains many important physical features for scoring and playing purposes, but is essentially one flat area (and continuous airspace) when you disregard the elevation of the pitcher's mound or even the outfield fence  and stands (for any ball that carries that far, upon being hit).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall explicitly classes this in the Type 1 diagram, and there isn't any obvious reason to argue this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Association Football (&amp;quot;'''Soccer''''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Football&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Football_pitch_metric_and_imperial.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstruted rectangular playing area with a goal formed of two vertical posts connected between the tops by a crossbar. In official competition (and where otherwise desired) there is a net stretched behind each goalmouth to stop any ball that passes completely through it (with or without hitting any of the posts), although games can be played with no net in place, or in street/schoolyard situations by goals defined only as a goalpost-like markings painted upon a solid wall (hitting the  wall within the bounds of the painted line constitutes a goal, give or take arguments about whether it counts if it hit the line).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 1 (a single unobstructed zone), which is likely due to the 'pocket' of the net-backed goalmouth being nothing more than a straight extension of the playing area.&lt;br /&gt;
 However, an un-netted set of goalposts might be considered a Type 3, with each set of goalposts defining an impassible frame (the hole in the topology, ''not'' the same thing as the physical hole formed by the goal-frame) within which the balls can freely pass and return ''not'' through the goalmouth, or vice-versa.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Tetherball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tetherball_in_Georgetown,_Seattle,_Washington.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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 A ball attached to a cord anchored at the tip of a pole that is in turn stuck in the ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Although the mechanism used to allow free swivelling of the tether around the pole may be quite complex (including being looped around a helical thread to help register how many excess orbits of the pole the ball has made in either direction), the basic premise can be simplified to a single extrusion from the playing area, which is topologically identical to a playing area with no extrusion at all. Thus Randall properly states this as a Type 1 variant.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 2 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Second image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will be pass around the unpassable hole in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with a single central hole in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Volleyball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volleyball#/media/File:VolleyballCourt.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 A volleyball court consists of a flat area disected by a raised net in the centre. Valid shots pass over the net, but it is possible for the ball (or players) to pass between the net and the floor.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall lists this under the Type 2 diagram. An argument can be made that the net could effectively reach to the ground, or questions asked about anchoring the net top/bottom to the posts at either side with separate straps (adding left and right 'passages' between the elements of the obstacle that is the net) but he clearly intends the loop around the hole to represent the ability to passing over the net one way and under the net the other (or vice-versa) as a topologically irreducible loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Badminton'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Badminton_court_3d.svg&lt;br /&gt;
 (Note that this diagram completely abstracts the under-net area away.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 The net setup is very similar to volleyball, i.e. raised above the ground, with very similar rules regarding valid shots between the areas on each side.&lt;br /&gt;
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 As with Volleyball, Randall feels justified in this being classed as a Class 2, having similar reasons for this as well as possible arguments against.&lt;br /&gt;
 (Note that another form of {{w|Badminton Horse Trials|Badminton}} is arguably far more topologically complex!)&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''High Jump'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 A bar supported at height between two supports. The idea is to successfully pass over the bar (without knocking it off, the bar being only supported to the supports, not firmly attached to them), although a competitor who decides to abort their attempt mid-run might well choose to pass underneath to default the attempt with the least physical and organisational aftermath.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With an 'above' and 'below' path to potentially loop around (though not in a single jump), Randall chooses to ascribe this as a Type 2. If a competitor displaces the bar, during a failed jump, it can morph the topology into a Type 1 scenario&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 3 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Third image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around one ot other ''or both'' of the holes in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with two holes in it, towards each end.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Basketball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Basketball_terms.png&lt;br /&gt;
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 Played upon a court, at each end of which is a tall pole (or supporting wall or other structure) from which a 'basket' is projected over the playing area. The earliest baskets were an actual closed-bottom basket, but this required climbing up to retrieve balls successfully landed within them. By removing the bottoms of the baskets and, later, using just a hoop (with or without a bottomless net). Points are scored by sending the ball through the basket-loop ''from above'', to be retrieved for further play as it exits below.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topologically, the edge of each loop is directly connected to the ground, so it can be smplified as a two-hole Type 3 field (the hole in the field is the impassible rim in the basket-loop). This does not preserve the orientation (or intended unidirectional nature) of the basketball-shot, but this is Topology's fault, not Randall's!&lt;br /&gt;
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 American/Canadian Football (&amp;quot;Gridiron&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;'''Football'''&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football_field#/media/File:AmFBfield.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 A unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'Endzones' at each end. Goalposts are either of an &amp;quot;H&amp;quot; shape or essentially a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot; (crossbar, upper verticals and a single utilitarian post, usually set back beyond normal playing area with an extension over to hold the crossbar directly over the goal-line. The verticals are tall but are also conceptually projected upwards without limit, for scoring purposes, should a field-goal/etc be kicked high enough to exceed the structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 3 (a topological hole at each end of the field), which ''may'' represent the bound surrounding the elevated goal-scoring area. Alternately it represents the physical structure of the H-shaped posts which rationalise down to the open-backed ground-touching goalpost footings and the crossbar.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Parallel Bars''' or perhaps ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars&lt;br /&gt;
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 PB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AlejandroonParallelBars.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
 UPB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paksaltoliukin.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Parallel Bars are two horizontal bars supported at roughly hand-height, upon which a gymnast will perform various hand-supported feats strength and coordination. The participant will not usually fully use the space beneath either bar (and between the two supports for the bar), but a  will needs the opportunity to grip fully around the bar, especially when the other hand is released for a complicated body movement and it would be impractical or a different discipline entirely to used a 'filled' bar-support.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Uneven Parallel Bars are two similarly supported bars but at two different (and greater) heights, with the performance being generally that of keeping the grip of both hands (or knees/etc) on either one or other of the bars whilst rotating around its axis, when not actively transfering across between the bars themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Effectively two loops (as per basketball hoops but in a different orientation and scale). The Type 3 topology suggested by Randall is more meaningful for the use of Uneven Parallel Bars, but is probably applicable to the 'even' version in its own way.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 4 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Fourth image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around at least one (and possibly several) of the nine holes in this topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with nine small holes dotted into it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Olympic Swimming'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Swimming_pool_50m_2008.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 In competitive swimming, a swimming pool is often delineated into lanes (for Olympic purposes, Lane 0 to Lane 9, though usually not all will be used) by floating barriers and other markings. These provide a limited amount of wave-reduction but mostly keep competitors from inadvertently drifting across or into each others' paths.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall considers this setup to require nine 'holes' in the competition area, presumably where the floats pass along the surface of the water, to make a Type 4 field of competition. He must then consider it perfectly possible for competitors to pass under ''or over'' these barriers, at will, with complete disregard for the usual competition (and risking disqualification). Otherwise, it might be best considered as (up to) ten ''separate'' Type 1 arenas, with just one swimmer in each.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Croquet'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Modern_croquet_equipment.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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 A game in which a number of metal hoops are placed in the ground such that a given number of players (or teams of players) must each propel their own ball(s), and possibly those of their opponents, through each loop either directly with their own mallet or through contact between balls.&lt;br /&gt;
 Many variations exist with differing numbers of hoops and variations of rules and winning conditions. Randall appears to favour the &amp;quot;Nine-wicket Croquet&amp;quot; popular to North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The topological simplification of nine hoops across a flat surface can be thought of as the Type 4 topology displayed.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Table Football (&amp;quot;'''Foosball'''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Table Soccer&amp;quot;) - as per title-text&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Foosball_garlando_aerial.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An enclosed playing surface with (typically) eight rotatable and extendable bars supporting representative (soccer) 'footballer' figures, ready to strike a small ball across the surface, as might be desired by the two or more opposing players who are each able to control the movements of half of the 'bars' (each team's-worth having a goalkeeper, defence, midfield and attacking 'layer'). By skill and/or luck, the aim is to propel the ball into the opposing's player's goal.&lt;br /&gt;
 On coin-operated games, often the playing area is usually sealed off from direct manual interference, and a ball that goes into the goalmouth finds itself in a lower chamber that stores the ball(s) and deposits them via some feed to carry the ball back up and 'thrown in' towards the centre of the table to start the next attempt at goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With eight bars across, and potentially two goalmouth sinks, this may not actually add up to a nine-hole Type 4 field of play. But presumably Randall is thinking of a version that does.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Skee-Ball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Skee_Ball.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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 An arcade game in which a ball is propelled by the player to land in (according to skill) one of various holes in a target-ridden surface (to return back to the player for another go).&lt;br /&gt;
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 It would depend upon the exact confuguration of Skee-Ball machine but, again, Randall seems to think this matches the Type 4 topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Further (football) examples, unmentioned&lt;br /&gt;
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 Australian Rules Football ('Aussie Rules'&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Footygroundfix.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed oval field with four simple vertical posts upon the perimiter arcs at each end.&lt;br /&gt;
 The ball passing between the (taller) central pair of each end's posts (projected upwards indefinitely) is a Goal. Passing between the outer posts and the adjacent central one (or bouncing off these) is a Behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Type 1 if the protruding poles are rationalised to zero, without respect to scoring zones. Four ''or perhaps six'' topological holes (two or three per end) if respecting the imaginary projections indefinitely upwards for scoring purposes, depending upon if you care about chirality of the ball path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Gaelic football ('Gaelic') - fields also used for Hurling&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football#/media/File:Gaelic_football_pitch_diagram.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular field with an H-shaped set of goalposts at each end, the area below the crossbar often being netted, while the upper verticals being nominally considered as projecting upwards without limit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Valid balls sent over the crossbar and between the verticals are awarded Points; those sent into the netted goalmouth are Goals (equivalent to three Points for scoring purposes).&lt;br /&gt;
 There is no in-play use of the area behind the line of the goalposts, unlike various other football codes with similar-looking posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 |- Topologically, probably considered a Type 1. Goal-shots are into a 'pocket' extension (if nets are used), and Point-shots are topologically indistinguishable from passing over any other part of the boundary line.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Rugby League/Union ('Rugby'/'Rugby Football'/'Football')&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union#/media/File:RugbyPitchMetricDetailed.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'In Goal' areas continuing on behind the 'Try Line' upon which the H-shaped goalposts sit.&lt;br /&gt;
 The field of play extends into this area, the lower parts of the vertical posts play no purpose other than to hold the upper elements in the air. A 'Try' (roughly equivalent to a Touchdown) can be scored by placing the ball somewhere over the line or by touching the base of the (often padded) posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 The cross-bar and the verticals upwards of it (towards and bounded at infinity) count as the hard boundary of a scoring area for &amp;quot;conversions&amp;quot; (taken immediately after a try) and other kicks (penalties and drop-goals).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Might be treated as Type 3 (two holes), unless concerned about whether balls kicked through the goals or taking across the try line weave back one or other side of, or between, the lower vertical posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 Alternately, is a Type 3 for the lower (not more special for scoring than any adjacent lower area) frames, while the open tops (meaningful for scoring purposes) rationalise as topologically irrelevent.&lt;br /&gt;
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(TL;DR; - It's too long, you may not want to read it...) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.213|162.158.34.213]] 21:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The extended discussion in the explanation about the issues with &amp;quot;two-holes for football&amp;quot; goes away if the goals are the H-shaped kind rather then the Y-shaped kind.  Since the comic specifically states that these fields belong to the Topology Department - and are NOT generalized across all sports fields - then we can use the &amp;quot;two hole&amp;quot; information to deduce that the department's fields have the H-shaped kind...which solves 100% of the confusion and eliminates the long (and excessively intricate) digression about other weird forms of &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; with different topologies. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 13:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
- agree [[User:Boatster|Boatster]] ([[User talk:Boatster|talk]]) 15:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this really explainxkcd? Asking since I don't see the obvious stated anywhere. Hell, '''the obvious question and last statement of the image isn't even addressed'''. Why does no one ever want to use the topology department's athletic fields? Its a mystery right? Whats wrong with a soccer field that has a topology like that? It make detecting when the ball crossed the line so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how has no one talked about the geographic/field topology that the last question implies along with the obvious reprecusions (ball roll down hill. stuck in middle. habing to climb. tripping in holes and breaking legs)? Why is everything so freaking high level here? '''Where the hell is the explanation of the joke's? Something is terribly wrong!''' [[Special:Contributions/172.71.82.81|172.71.82.81]] 17:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: One of the more serious problems with explainxkcd is the well-known phenomenon that explaining a joke often kills the humor.  So, quite often, in the course of fully explaining the cartoon - we do indeed shred the actual humor into tiny, tiny fragments.   However, we're here to explain it - and that's that.&lt;br /&gt;
: I guess the joke is that the topology department are so obsessed with the topological shape of their sport's fields that they have lost the shape and dimensions of the fields - and thereby made them useless for playing actual sports on.&lt;br /&gt;
: Two fields that are topologically equivalent are not necessarily capable of being used for playing multiple sports.  Swimming on a croquet field - or playing croquet in a swimming pool does not work.  [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.199|172.69.71.199]] 18:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The goal is to explain the joke in '''laymans terms''' yaknow, &amp;quot;because your dumb&amp;quot;. Since the joke is missed by those outside the fields and don't know how definitions of terms differ in different fields and whatnot. Its the whole purpose. The thing above explains nothing in laymans terms. There is no joke. All there is is an explanation on how field theory and topolgy work and then why the resulting images make sense. Nothing on why this is supposed to be funny. The one thing we actually have to explain at minimum. The joke seems to be that this field which is created for the reasons already described is the actual field we would play on (something completly unaddressed in the explanation above). This could be dangerous with those holes (also unaddressed). And then there is the unadressed question of is this a raised plot of land thats been cut out, or is this all that exist, and kicking the ball off field or falling in a hole goes into a void. This needs to be an explanation for people who are much, much, much dumber. We are not supposed to be explaining field theory, just enough of it to get the joke [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.124|162.158.187.124]] 18:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wondering if any topologists understand American football, and if any football fans understand topology.  I am a football fan who doesn't understand topology.  As requested before, I would like to understand why there is any topological difference in analyzing the American football gameplay and playing field, between H-shaped and Y-shaped goals.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The field-goal-space is functionally a rectangle above the crossbar, and the width between the uprights, but of undefined height, in both cases.  The one or two supports for the crossbar are irrelevant to gameplay.  All supports below the bar would be eliminated, if the engineering problem could be solved.  Why does the existence of one vs. two engineering kludges make a critical difference in the number of topological holes?  &lt;br /&gt;
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The endzone, that is, all of the space on the playing field (grass) behind, in front of, and on either side of the goalposts is valid and legal for every player and for the ball on every play, potentially with scoring implications at the termination of the play.  All of the space above the grass, above the endzone, both under and above the horizontal crossbar, are also legal and valid for play by the players and by the ball on every play.  In one case, a play involving a legally kicked field goal, the space above the crossbar and between the uprights, has scoring significance.  A field goal has the same name and the same general mechanics in basketball and in American football.  In neither case do the engineering contrivances supporting and suspending the goal rectangle (football) or circle (basketball) play a conceptual role in the gameplay.  Why, then, do the topologists here treat football and basketball differently, and why are H-shaped and Y-shaped goals in football not equivalent?  I look forward to learning something.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: H-shaped and Y-shaped American Football goals have no relevance in game play.  Why are they topologically different?&lt;/p&gt;
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To me the topological fields look like toilet seats  with three  more or less seashells. --[[User:Gunterkoenigsmann|Gunterkoenigsmann]] ([[User talk:Gunterkoenigsmann|talk]]) 16:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Why is football on the two-hole field? Where are the holes? I don't think the goal posts in American football introduce any since they're not closed. Maybe it's soccer? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88|172.69.68.88]] 12:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it is because the goal posts extend into infinity and the topological definition of a hole: something you can draw a circle around that you cannot contract to a point. [the user placed a horizontal rule instead of a signature by accident.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, you might still be able to call them holes. They would be if they were fully rectangles. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Gridiron football's field contains two areas (the endzones) that can be thought of as not being part of the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; field of play, for lack of a better way of saying that pre-coffee. Association football likewise has the areas within the nets. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: My immediate thoughts were also that football (soccer) and football (gridiron) are the same, or indeed the other way round. In both cases the closed hole (assuming not a Y-like vertical holder, but H-like as per rugby football) plays no more or less topological part. Threading through the hole from behind has no relevence in either, and in fact defining it as a region that is 'a special enclosed gap with meaning' (which doesn't really matter in the topology sense, just like golf would be a topologically hole-less surface and as a coffee-cup's inside 'dimple' doesn't count, just its handle-hole that makes it equivalent to a doughnut) actually counts for something in association football. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It's not the space bounded by the goal that is the 'hole' - it's the goal post itself (or in the case of the high jump, it's the bar, not the space under it). The reason soccer doesn't have 'holes' where the goals are is that they're positioned on the edge of the playable area - you can't play around the bars, because as soon as you cross the goal line you're out of play. And it doesn't matter whether it's a Y-shaped or H-shaped goal - topologically, they both form one continuous 'hole'. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't think that's the reason why soccer doesn't have holes. The goalposts in football are also outside the playable area, and so are the poles in volleyball. I think soccer is listed as zero-holes because soccer goals are typically not fixed to the field, and are instead separate objects that can be dragged around and removed from the field. On the other hand, the same is true of volleyball and badminton nets (and those nets contain many holes!) so the comic seems a bit inconsistent.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146|172.70.175.146]] 14:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Speaking from a &amp;quot;football is soccer&amp;quot; nation (well, mostly, the exceptional subregions would argue that it's rugby) a soccer goal is typically ''not'' draggable around the field, but permanent (or a unit frame that has to be painstakingly hoisted out of the ground if you ''don't'' want them in your football stadium, when you repurpose it for other purposes) and it's only the optional net that gets added to the park's permanent goalposts for the official five-aside competition evening or day of the weekend. Draggable goalposts need a further level of intermediate organisation that goes beyond the typical &amp;quot;shipping container with windows cut in it (with shutters bolted over them) as a cheap changing room/officials' cabin&amp;quot; that might be found near the edge of the field but rarely even has as much as a corner flag left in them, between games&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I presume that US 'football' posts are considered holes because they are an infinitely-tall window (even though the delineating poles only reach so high) that is a meaningful slice (where the goal is, you have to loop around it in mutually different unsimplifiable paths to reach the other side), but then that should make for ''two'' holes per end, if you count getting a field-goal and then returning round the sides (or vice-versa) as another valid surface-path.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: ...but, yeah, I can imagine the problem of definition (and cultural famiarity) here is going to produce more problems even than the understanding of topology. One of the less internationally-accepted comics, this. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 18:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: O_O . Randall is united-statesian, so football means the thing where you tackle each other and hold the ball in your hands. I've never been into football, and I've always seen it with two large goal posts with a horizontal bar between them. The hole is formed under the horizontal bar. When I played football in computer games, you had to get the ball over the horizontal bar. After this, I'll search the web to see if the horizontal bar still exists. Regarding soccer, there aren't two holes because the nets are closed at the back. You cannot pass through the field structure by going through a goal: you bump into the net the ball bounces off of when a goal is made. So, Randall is considering soccer fields topologically equivalent to a plane (ignoring all the holes in the netting). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.229|172.70.114.229]] 14:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I looked up the goal thing and found that what I was imagining are called H-frame or H-style goal posts. Not the norm; the have two posts instead of one. I'm a weirdo that I thought they were what was up. But Randall could have been thinking of H-frame goals. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 15:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Many high school and amateur football fields still use H-frame goals. The resulting space can be used as a goal in some other sports. That does raise the question of why they didn't just have one field with lots of holes, and just plug the ones up that aren't needed for the sport being played. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tetherball, in many variants, does contain an obstruction -- the pole, which you're not allowed to touch. The Topology Department is getting tired of having to switch out the fields. [[User:Noëlle|Noëlle]] ([[User talk:Noëlle|talk]]) 13:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But you can surely jump over it, so it's topologically the same as a zero-height pole... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Tetherball does not have a *hole*. The pole, rope, and ball are just a stretched out bit of the continuous surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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Croquet has six hoops and a peg. How does that make for nine holes? Is it including the opponents' two balls as holes? And if so, why aren't opposing players counted as holes in the other sports? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 13:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquet#Nine-wicket] 'Nine-wicket croquet, sometimes called &amp;quot;backyard croquet&amp;quot;, is played mainly in Canada and the United States, and is the game most recreational players in those countries call simply &amp;quot;croquet&amp;quot;.' (Wikipedia) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 18:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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American football goals are Y-shaped. Rugby goals are H-shaped. Did... did Randall get those confused? Also, I fail to see how basketball and American football get two, croquet gets a bunch, but soccer gets zero. Aren't soccer goals (in-game at least) basically the same shape as croquet wickets, just waaaay bigger? Granted, I don't know anything about topology and I came to this wiki specifically cuz I'm dumb, so I'd love if someone could splain this all for me ;) --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.170|172.69.69.170]] 13:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The soccer goal has a net, so the ball can't go through it. Topologically it's just a wall (Randall seems to be ignoring all the tiny holes in netting, presumaby because they're smaller than the balls so they're insignificant to the sports). [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with that explanation - the net is the only thing that makes the soccer field not to have holes. It should be included in the comic explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
::The hole for the volleyball only makes sense taking in account that the bottom of the net doesn't reach the floor, although this space is not used in the game.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree about soccer; the explanation should be that soccer goals (with net) are topologically part of the plane. The same is true of ice hockey, even though you can travel &amp;quot;around&amp;quot; the net, it is topologically part of the field with no holes. As for (American) football, the topology only makes sense for H-shaped goals, which are more often seen on primary/secondary play fields than in higher level play. [[User:Aramisuvla|Aramisuvla]] ([[User talk:Aramisuvla|talk]]) 16:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. Soccer goals are shaped such that their bottoms connect smoothly to the ground in a single continuous piece. So they are topologically equivalent to the plane. This wouldn't be the case if not for the back part holding the net. That's unlike basketball hoops, which are actual holes. The holes in football must be referring to the H-shaped uprights that were standard until 1967 in professional leagues and are still seen in some high school fields and even a couple college fields. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.128|172.70.131.128]] 03:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::EDIT: I should point out that the net actually has, like, hundreds of holes. But I think the net here is being treated as a continuous sheet. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.215|172.70.126.215]] 03:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I mentioned all the little holes in the net in my comment that you're replying to. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The group link pointing to group (mathematics) doesn't bear any relation with the sentence or the comic. I would remove the link.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 14:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: The joke seems important to me because their no consideration of the word 'field' being a math pun, and it raises the idea in readers. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.74|162.158.79.74]] 15:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:When I first saw the comic title I assumed that part of the joke would be a pun on the word &amp;quot;field&amp;quot; being used for both sports and math. And even though the comic doesn't explicitly make this joke, I'll bet it inspired Randall. It's worth mentioning. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In rugby (both League and Union) the goalposts are within the field of play: significant game activity takes place behind them. This is not the case with soccer. I have no clue what difference this makes topologically.{{unsigned ip|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been thinking about this classification system, and can't quite work out the baseline for it. I think we're supposed to assume that the whole 3d manifold is represented in a 2d 'field', or at least any path through the air flattened to an arbitrarily thin surface 'bulge' during topological rationalisation. But there are several possible field-of-play definitions we can be using...&lt;br /&gt;
* A single valid 'play' or traversal&lt;br /&gt;
** For ball-sports (or indeed other play-objects) this could be where the item can travel. But in this case I think almost 'all' codes of football are Type 1 (first of the topologies) as almost every football code deals with both 'goal' and 'endzone' (where valid) as the same as a hole (dimple) in golf... It goes into it and it might as well come out of it again, there's no continuation of play 'through the defined' space, and so the topological hole (the barrier defined the scoring membrane's edge) never comes into play.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Unlike in Gridiron, where a touchdown doesn't even need the 'ball' to touch the ground, rugby (league and/or union, and possibly further derivatives) requires this and a player can fail to score a Try if (s)he passes bodily over the line but is unable to plant the ball (not allowed to throw/drop it) and I'd have to check what happens if the defending player(s) keeping them sufficiently off the ground (assuming that's done in an allowable fashion) returns the intended scorer back over the line via a circuitous route around /back-through the suspended goal-mouth (above the cross-bar, between the verticals)... They keep changing those kinds of technical rules, so I can't be sure of the current technicalities involved.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Likewise, a volleyball or shuttlecock that passes under the net-top-edge is out of play, so it is really a Type 1 under this definition. (Might as well be a solid barrier, floor-to-top-height, rather than a thin bar or a partial net.)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;The basketball case is interesting. Although a dunk ends the play of the ball, I'm not sure if the path of a ball ''up'' through the hoop does not. In that circumstance I could believe it is a Type 3 case, but if that's a game-stopping thing then Type 1.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Croquet is indeed a varying number of paths through (I ''think'') an unordered set of holes, or at least nothing to say that they can be taken out of order (or 'un-passed-through'), and you can't necessarily restrict a 'play' to one shot at a time if certain conditions allow you to play on, so dodging in and around all scoring zones defined by the hoops gives you something like.&lt;br /&gt;
** For player/competitor/participant movement, similarly passing under the bar is not valid for the High Jump.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I don't think there's anything to stop such transitions upon the Parallel Bars, but it is much more a feature of the ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars, whereas from what I've seen of the sport, the even-variety tends to be topologically used much as the pommel-horse.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Players of football (American variations certainly, rugby of course, proper football if you don't bother with the nets) are not restricted from passing through the scoring area (either way) on a circuitous path that may be off the field of play but isn't off the field ''of players''.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;For the Olympic Swimming, I'm not suring porpoising over and under the lane-delineations is a thing, so I would have said that (under this definition), it should be a number of entirely disconnected Type 1 'zones', with no valid movement between them at all.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;So far as I'm aware, there are no rules for/against croquet ''players'' passing through hoops (intentionally or perhaps because they severely annoyed an opponent) so maybe that stands in this case, too. Ditto for basketball, if hoisted. Although in both cases it may prevent the balls passing through immediately afterwards, without game-stoppage to resolve the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
* If it's a game's-worth of play, then the status of the basket in basketball (unlike the pocket in snooker/pool/some-versions-of-billards) might be defined by the topological-hole-that-is-the-physical-hole's-edge, rather than treat it as the old basket-with-bottom from which the precusor to the net-ring almost immediately evolved. And the same could be said about the suspended scoring-hole (whether supported as Y-post or an H-post, the lower limb(s) are merely physical necessities that play little part in the gameplay specifics except as a general hazard to avoid, it is the crossbar and verticals-to-infinity (and the infinity itself) that is the gap through which a circular path cannot be rationalised back to a point). For most of the rest (including the participant-paths, with there being nothing to stop the traversal of a footballer of whatever stripe jumping the cross-bar, but that may only mean something in the topology of some variations, as far as the game is concerned...) it seems meaningless. Even in an Aussie Rules field with four 'posts' per end, and probably more interest in whether jumping onto an opposing player is against the rules or indeed an entirely legitimate and expected tactic.&lt;br /&gt;
* The general arena-wide area is a further superset (perhaps with no additional complications, i.e. exactly congruent) of the field-of-play(er) definition. For coin-operated table-top games (foosball/table-football) the path from each goal may (additionally to any on-top topological loop-disconnections) force passage of the ball underneath and out into the new-play insertion spot. So add a couple more (unidirectional) paths, at least. Or six for a coin-operated pool/etc table, and I assume the Skeeball (not something I'm familar with, at least by that name) is defined that way already...&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I found I needed to say a lot more than I thought I did, so the first point (and sub-points) went on a bit and I cut down what I might have said for the following points. I may come back to re-edit this. I've got a handy little table, in mind, but I'm not sure it'll work much better to summarise everything I've been cogitating about for most of today while away from the keyboard... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 15:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;hole&amp;quot; in the goalpost in American football is relevant for field goals, not touchdowns. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm not sure it's relevent for either. The field-goal passes over the crossbar and between (but also maybe above) the raised verticles, but that route is topologically the same as one above the crossbar but wide, which is in turn the same as one rolling along the ground and wide... Or indeed carried across just like most touchdowns (any that isn't run through the middle of the H-post', un-netted but otherwise soccer-like 'goalmouth' lower section).&lt;br /&gt;
::Possibly running around the post(s) that support the field-goal defining beams counts as the path around the topological hole because any change to that route that attempts to transform it to a useless loop within the main field of play must either (at some point) pass through the support for the crossbar or else wholly through the region that defines (in one direction, at least) the goal-scoring area. Can anyone get Word Of God in his intentions, here? It looks weird, to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 03:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As has been alluded to, this must be an American university's topology department. A rest-of-the-world university would include four holes for cricket. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.191|172.70.134.191]] 17:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is my (not yet properly tabularised, or properly wikimedialinked) idea of all the kinds of information I'd suggest go in there.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;But it's a monstrocity and I don't want to remove the very useful existing information already in the Explanation (that may even be better/more accurate than my interpretation).&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;...so here it is for review. If anything in it is useful to anybody else as inspiration for future edits then... well, your choice!&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path looping around this area can be moved at will and shrunk to just one point that could result from any other path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstruted rectangular playing area with a goal formed of two vertical posts connected between the tops by a crossbar. In official competition (and where otherwise desired) there is a net stretched behind each goalmouth to stop any ball that passes completely through it (with or without hitting any of the posts), although games can be played with no net in place, or in street/schoolyard situations by goals defined only as a goalpost-like markings painted upon a solid wall (hitting the  wall within the bounds of the painted line constitutes a goal, give or take arguments about whether it counts if it hit the line).&lt;br /&gt;
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 However, an un-netted set of goalposts might be considered a Type 3, with each set of goalposts defining an impassible frame (the hole in the topology, ''not'' the same thing as the physical hole formed by the goal-frame) within which the balls can freely pass and return ''not'' through the goalmouth, or vice-versa.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will be pass around the unpassable hole in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with a single central hole in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Volleyball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volleyball#/media/File:VolleyballCourt.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 A volleyball court consists of a flat area disected by a raised net in the centre. Valid shots pass over the net, but it is possible for the ball (or players) to pass between the net and the floor.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall lists this under the Type 2 diagram. An argument can be made that the net could effectively reach to the ground, or questions asked about anchoring the net top/bottom to the posts at either side with separate straps (adding left and right 'passages' between the elements of the obstacle that is the net) but he clearly intends the loop around the hole to represent the ability to passing over the net one way and under the net the other (or vice-versa) as a topologically irreducible loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Badminton'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Badminton_court_3d.svg&lt;br /&gt;
 (Note that this diagram completely abstracts the under-net area away.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 The net setup is very similar to volleyball, i.e. raised above the ground, with very similar rules regarding valid shots between the areas on each side.&lt;br /&gt;
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 As with Volleyball, Randall feels justified in this being classed as a Class 2, having similar reasons for this as well as possible arguments against.&lt;br /&gt;
 (Note that another form of {{w|Badminton Horse Trials|Badminton}} is arguably far more topologically complex!)&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''High Jump'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1912_Platt_Adams5.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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 A bar supported at height between two supports. The idea is to successfully pass over the bar (without knocking it off, the bar being only supported to the supports, not firmly attached to them), although a competitor who decides to abort their attempt mid-run might well choose to pass underneath to default the attempt with the least physical and organisational aftermath.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With an 'above' and 'below' path to potentially loop around (though not in a single jump), Randall chooses to ascribe this as a Type 2. If a competitor displaces the bar, during a failed jump, it can morph the topology into a Type 1 scenario&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 3 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Third image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around one ot other ''or both'' of the holes in the topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with two holes in it, towards each end.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Basketball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Basketball_terms.png&lt;br /&gt;
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 Played upon a court, at each end of which is a tall pole (or supporting wall or other structure) from which a 'basket' is projected over the playing area. The earliest baskets were an actual closed-bottom basket, but this required climbing up to retrieve balls successfully landed within them. By removing the bottoms of the baskets and, later, using just a hoop (with or without a bottomless net). Points are scored by sending the ball through the basket-loop ''from above'', to be retrieved for further play as it exits below.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Topologically, the edge of each loop is directly connected to the ground, so it can be smplified as a two-hole Type 3 field (the hole in the field is the impassible rim in the basket-loop). This does not preserve the orientation (or intended unidirectional nature) of the basketball-shot, but this is Topology's fault, not Randall's!&lt;br /&gt;
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 American/Canadian Football (&amp;quot;Gridiron&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;'''Football'''&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football_field#/media/File:AmFBfield.svg&lt;br /&gt;
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Canadian_football_field.png&lt;br /&gt;
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 A unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'Endzones' at each end. Goalposts are either of an &amp;quot;H&amp;quot; shape or essentially a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot; (crossbar, upper verticals and a single utilitarian post, usually set back beyond normal playing area with an extension over to hold the crossbar directly over the goal-line. The verticals are tall but are also conceptually projected upwards without limit, for scoring purposes, should a field-goal/etc be kicked high enough to exceed the structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Stated by Randall as a Type 3 (a topological hole at each end of the field), which ''may'' represent the bound surrounding the elevated goal-scoring area. Alternately it represents the physical structure of the H-shaped posts which rationalise down to the open-backed ground-touching goalpost footings and the crossbar.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Parallel Bars''' or perhaps ''Uneven'' Parallel Bars&lt;br /&gt;
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 PB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AlejandroonParallelBars.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
 UPB: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paksaltoliukin.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Parallel Bars are two horizontal bars supported at roughly hand-height, upon which a gymnast will perform various hand-supported feats strength and coordination. The participant will not usually fully use the space beneath either bar (and between the two supports for the bar), but a  will needs the opportunity to grip fully around the bar, especially when the other hand is released for a complicated body movement and it would be impractical or a different discipline entirely to used a 'filled' bar-support.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Uneven Parallel Bars are two similarly supported bars but at two different (and greater) heights, with the performance being generally that of keeping the grip of both hands (or knees/etc) on either one or other of the bars whilst rotating around its axis, when not actively transfering across between the bars themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Effectively two loops (as per basketball hoops but in a different orientation and scale). The Type 3 topology suggested by Randall is more meaningful for the use of Uneven Parallel Bars, but is probably applicable to the 'even' version in its own way.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Type 4 Field'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 (Fourth image in comic.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 Any path that canot be shrunk to just one point will pass around at least one (and possibly several) of the nine holes in this topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 A homogonously flat lozange surface with nine small holes dotted into it.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Olympic Swimming'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Swimming_pool_50m_2008.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 In competitive swimming, a swimming pool is often delineated into lanes (for Olympic purposes, Lane 0 to Lane 9, though usually not all will be used) by floating barriers and other markings. These provide a limited amount of wave-reduction but mostly keep competitors from inadvertently drifting across or into each others' paths.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Randall considers this setup to require nine 'holes' in the competition area, presumably where the floats pass along the surface of the water, to make a Type 4 field of competition. He must then consider it perfectly possible for competitors to pass under ''or over'' these barriers, at will, with complete disregard for the usual competition (and risking disqualification). Otherwise, it might be best considered as (up to) ten ''separate'' Type 1 arenas, with just one swimmer in each.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Croquet'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Modern_croquet_equipment.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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 A game in which a number of metal hoops are placed in the ground such that a given number of players (or teams of players) must each propel their own ball(s), and possibly those of their opponents, through each loop either directly with their own mallet or through contact between balls.&lt;br /&gt;
 Many variations exist with differing numbers of hoops and variations of rules and winning conditions. Randall appears to favour the &amp;quot;Nine-wicket Croquet&amp;quot; popular to North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The topological simplification of nine hoops across a flat surface can be thought of as the Type 4 topology displayed.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Table Football (&amp;quot;'''Foosball'''&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;Table Soccer&amp;quot;) - as per title-text&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Foosball_garlando_aerial.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An enclosed playing surface with (typically) eight rotatable and extendable bars supporting representative (soccer) 'footballer' figures, ready to strike a small ball across the surface, as might be desired by the two or more opposing players who are each able to control the movements of half of the 'bars' (each team's-worth having a goalkeeper, defence, midfield and attacking 'layer'). By skill and/or luck, the aim is to propel the ball into the opposing's player's goal.&lt;br /&gt;
 On coin-operated games, often the playing area is usually sealed off from direct manual interference, and a ball that goes into the goalmouth finds itself in a lower chamber that stores the ball(s) and deposits them via some feed to carry the ball back up and 'thrown in' towards the centre of the table to start the next attempt at goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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 With eight bars across, and potentially two goalmouth sinks, this may not actually add up to a nine-hole Type 4 field of play. But presumably Randall is thinking of a version that does.&lt;br /&gt;
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 '''Skee-Ball'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Skee_Ball.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
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 An arcade game in which a ball is propelled by the player to land in (according to skill) one of various holes in a target-ridden surface (to return back to the player for another go).&lt;br /&gt;
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 It would depend upon the exact confuguration of Skee-Ball machine but, again, Randall seems to think this matches the Type 4 topology.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Further (football) examples, unmentioned&lt;br /&gt;
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 Australian Rules Football ('Aussie Rules'&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Footygroundfix.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed oval field with four simple vertical posts upon the perimiter arcs at each end.&lt;br /&gt;
 The ball passing between the (taller) central pair of each end's posts (projected upwards indefinitely) is a Goal. Passing between the outer posts and the adjacent central one (or bouncing off these) is a Behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Type 1 if the protruding poles are rationalised to zero, without respect to scoring zones. Four ''or perhaps six'' topological holes (two or three per end) if respecting the imaginary projections indefinitely upwards for scoring purposes, depending upon if you care about chirality of the ball path.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Gaelic football ('Gaelic') - fields also used for Hurling&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football#/media/File:Gaelic_football_pitch_diagram.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular field with an H-shaped set of goalposts at each end, the area below the crossbar often being netted, while the upper verticals being nominally considered as projecting upwards without limit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Valid balls sent over the crossbar and between the verticals are awarded Points; those sent into the netted goalmouth are Goals (equivalent to three Points for scoring purposes).&lt;br /&gt;
 There is no in-play use of the area behind the line of the goalposts, unlike various other football codes with similar-looking posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 |- Topologically, probably considered a Type 1. Goal-shots are into a 'pocket' extension (if nets are used), and Point-shots are topologically indistinguishable from passing over any other part of the boundary line.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Rugby League/Union ('Rugby'/'Rugby Football'/'Football')&lt;br /&gt;
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union#/media/File:RugbyPitchMetricDetailed.svg&lt;br /&gt;
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league_playing_field#/media/File:NRL_Rugby_League_field.svg&lt;br /&gt;
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 An unobstructed rectangular playing area and two 'In Goal' areas continuing on behind the 'Try Line' upon which the H-shaped goalposts sit.&lt;br /&gt;
 The field of play extends into this area, the lower parts of the vertical posts play no purpose other than to hold the upper elements in the air. A 'Try' (roughly equivalent to a Touchdown) can be scored by placing the ball somewhere over the line or by touching the base of the (often padded) posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 The cross-bar and the verticals upwards of it (towards and bounded at infinity) count as the hard boundary of a scoring area for &amp;quot;conversions&amp;quot; (taken immediately after a try) and other kicks (penalties and drop-goals).&lt;br /&gt;
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 Might be treated as Type 3 (two holes), unless concerned about whether balls kicked through the goals or taking across the try line weave back one or other side of, or between, the lower vertical posts.&lt;br /&gt;
 Alternately, is a Type 3 for the lower (not more special for scoring than any adjacent lower area) frames, while the open tops (meaningful for scoring purposes) rationalise as topologically irrelevent.&lt;br /&gt;
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(TL;DR; - It's too long, you may not want to read it...) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.213|162.158.34.213]] 21:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The extended discussion in the explanation about the issues with &amp;quot;two-holes for football&amp;quot; goes away if the goals are the H-shaped kind rather then the Y-shaped kind.  Since the comic specifically states that these fields belong to the Topology Department - and are NOT generalized across all sports fields - then we can use the &amp;quot;two hole&amp;quot; information to deduce that the department's fields have the H-shaped kind...which solves 100% of the confusion and eliminates the long (and excessively intricate) digression about other weird forms of &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; with different topologies. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 13:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
- agree [[User:Boatster|Boatster]] ([[User talk:Boatster|talk]]) 15:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this really explainxkcd? Asking since I don't see the obvious stated anywhere. Hell, '''the obvious question and last statement of the image isn't even addressed'''. Why does no one ever want to use the topology department's athletic fields? Its a mystery right? Whats wrong with a soccer field that has a topology like that? It make detecting when the ball crossed the line so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how has no one talked about the geographic/field topology that the last question implies along with the obvious reprecusions (ball roll down hill. stuck in middle. habing to climb. tripping in holes and breaking legs)? Why is everything so freaking high level here? '''Where the hell is the explanation of the joke's? Something is terribly wrong!''' [[Special:Contributions/172.71.82.81|172.71.82.81]] 17:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: One of the more serious problems with explainxkcd is the well-known phenomenon that explaining a joke often kills the humor.  So, quite often, in the course of fully explaining the cartoon - we do indeed shred the actual humor into tiny, tiny fragments.   However, we're here to explain it - and that's that.&lt;br /&gt;
: I guess the joke is that the topology department are so obsessed with the topological shape of their sport's fields that they have lost the shape and dimensions of the fields - and thereby made them useless for playing actual sports on.&lt;br /&gt;
: Two fields that are topologically equivalent are not necessarily capable of being used for playing multiple sports.  Swimming on a croquet field - or playing croquet in a swimming pool does not work.  [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.199|172.69.71.199]] 18:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The goal is to explain the joke in '''laymans terms''' yaknow, &amp;quot;because your dumb&amp;quot;. Since the joke is missed by those outside the fields and don't know how definitions of terms differ in different fields and whatnot. Its the whole purpose. The thing above explains nothing in laymans terms. There is no joke. All there is is an explanation on how field theory and topolgy work and then why the resulting images make sense. Nothing on why this is supposed to be funny. The one thing we actually have to explain at minimum. The joke seems to be that this field which is created for the reasons already described is the actual field we would play on (something completly unaddressed in the explanation above). This could be dangerous with those holes (also unaddressed). And then there is the unadressed question of is this a raised plot of land thats been cut out, or is this all that exist, and kicking the ball off field or falling in a hole goes into a void. This needs to be an explanation for people who are much, much, much dumber. We are not supposed to be explaining field theory, just enough of it to get the joke [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.124|162.158.187.124]] 18:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wondering if any topologists understand American football, and if any football fans understand topology.  I am a football fan who doesn't understand topology.  As requested before, I would like to understand why there is any topological difference in analyzing the American football gameplay and playing field, between H-shaped and Y-shaped goals.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The goal-space is functionally a rectangle above the crossbar, and the width between the uprights, but of undefined height, in both cases.  The one or two supports for the crossbar are irrelevant to gameplay.  All supports below the bar would be eliminated, if the engineering problem could be solved.  Why does the existence of one vs. two engineering kludges make a critical difference in the number of topological holes?  &lt;br /&gt;
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The endzone, that is, all of the space on the playing field (grass) behind, in front of, and on either side of the goalposts is valid and legal for every player and for the ball on every play, potentially with scoring implications at the termination of the play.  All of the space above the grass, above the endzone, both under and above the horizontal crossbar, are also legal and valid for play by the players and by the ball on every play.  In one case, a play involving a legally kicked field goal, the space above the crossbar and between the uprights, has scoring significance.  A field goal has the same name and the same general mechanics in basketball and in American football.  In neither case do the engineering contrivances supporting and suspending the goal rectangle (football) or circle (basketball) play a conceptual role in the gameplay.  Why, then, do the topologists here treat football and basketball differently, and why are H-shaped and Y-shaped goals in football not equivalent?  I look forward to learning something.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>2552: The Last Molecule</title>
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| number    = 2552&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = December 8, 2021&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = The Last Molecule&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = the_last_molecule.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Biology is really struggling; they're barely at 93% and they keep finding more ants.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by a CONFUSED PARTIAL BIOCHEMIST - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
This comic jokingly proposes a situation in which chemists have discovered and catalogued every single possible molecule. Thus they declare they have &amp;quot;completed chemistry.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In real life the number of ways to arrange atoms into molecules is growing combinatorial with the number of atoms in a molecule. Hence the number of possible combinations approaches rather quickly the number of particles in the observable universe making the full cataloging of all molecules impossible. Thus, a &amp;quot;final molecule&amp;quot; cannot be reached. In addition, chemistry is the study of the interaction and changing states of atoms and molecules, not simply the cataloging of all specimens of molecule. Even if we had a list of every molecule, there are a far greater number of ways to continue studying them, so the field would still be nowhere near completed.  To quote the famous chemistry researcher, educator, businessman and philanthropist {{w|Walter White (Breaking Bad)|Walter White}}, &amp;quot;Chemistry is the study of change&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is reminiscent of biology's focus in previous centuries on simply cataloging the species on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further, the goal of science is not to &amp;quot;complete&amp;quot; a field, but to understand it better and better.  No scientific field is considered fully understood. As readers are aware of this, part of the humor comes from the relative percentages given to the different fields. The title text in particular makes fun of Biology lagging behind due to the inherent difficulty of cataloging all species, when there's no way to know how many new ones remain to be found.&lt;br /&gt;
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Putting Biology at 93% and Physics at 98% is patently absurd. As mentioned in the comic, we don't even know how many kinds of ants there are yet. When J.B.S Haldane, founder of the field of population genetics, was asked what could be inferred about the creator from the creation, he reportedly said, &amp;quot;He has an inordinate fondness for beetles&amp;quot;. Insects aside, fundamental and important problems such as what genes promote which traits, the nature of cognition, and the mechanism behind several diseases remain complete mysteries. We know less about our own ocean floor than we do about the surface of Mars. Needless to say, Biology is nowhere close to 93% solved. As for Physics, questions such as &amp;quot;what the actual hell is dark matter?&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;how do we unify the four fundamental forces?&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;how do we make nuclear fusion possible on earth?&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;how fast does light travel in one direction?&amp;quot; make it clear that the field still has a long, long way to go.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Ponytail is presenting on a stage. To the top-center of the slide which Ponytail is pointing to, there is a circled &amp;quot;100% complete&amp;quot; under &amp;quot;Chemistry&amp;quot;, then to the left is &amp;quot;Biology&amp;quot; which is at &amp;quot;93% complete&amp;quot; and to the right is &amp;quot;Physics&amp;quot; which is at &amp;quot;98% complete&amp;quot;. The bottom of the slide shows the [[wikipedia:structural formula|structural formula]] of a molecule which is captioned &amp;quot;The Last One&amp;quot;, along with a few smaller captions around it drawn as squiggles.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ponytail: With the discovery of the last molecule, I'm pleased to announce that chemistry is finally complete.&lt;br /&gt;
:Ponytail: Best of luck to our competitors in their race for second place.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Ponytail]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Biology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Chemistry]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>1937: IATA Airport Abbreviations</title>
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| number    = 1937&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = January 3, 2018&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = IATA Airport Abbreviations&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = iata_airport_abbreviations.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = IATA stands for International AirporT Abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
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This comic is making fun of the three-letter codes assigned to mostly all {{w|IATA airport code|airports}} in the world. These codes are overseen by the {{w|International Air Transport Association|IATA (International Air Transport Association)}}. Some airport codes are very intuitive, taking letters from the city name (e.g., DEN for Denver). Other codes are somewhat intuitive, taking a letter or two from the nearby city name but adding an additional letter (e.g., LAX for Los Angeles). Other codes make seemingly no sense at all (e.g., ORD for Chicago's O'Hare International, due to it formerly being named Orchard Field). In many cases, the airport codes appear to have been chosen (or invented) because they are also common abbreviations and acronyms. &lt;br /&gt;
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If we use the table provided, Randall's friend is flying into Edwards Air Force Base and then &amp;quot;down to whatever&amp;quot; -- not a real flight. In actuality, the friend is flying into Newark tonight and Detroit tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 |'''IATA Code''' || '''Actual Assigned City/Airport''' || '''Description in the comic''' || '''Explanation'''&lt;br /&gt;
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 | AMD || {{w|Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport|Ahmedabad}} || {{w|Amsterdam }}|| Amsterdam is the capital of the Netherlands. Its airport (called {{w|Amsterdam Airport Schiphol|Schiphol}}) has the IATA code AMS. &amp;quot;AMD&amp;quot; is also an abbreviated name for &amp;quot;{{w|Advanced Micro Devices}}&amp;quot;, a company that makes computer processors and graphics cards, among other products.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | ANC || {{w|Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport|Anchorage}} || {{w|Ankh-Morpork}} || Ankh-Morpork is a fictional city-state featured in ''{{w|Discworld}}''.  ANC is also an abbreviated name for the {{w|African National Congress}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | ATL || {{w|Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport|Atlanta}} || Atalantë || Another name for J.R.R. Tolkien's fictional island of {{w|Númenor}} (which is in turn a reference to the sinking of {{w|Atlantis}}). This may also be an intentional misspelling of &amp;quot;Atlanta&amp;quot;. ATL may also be an abbreviation for &amp;quot;above the line&amp;quot; - the area in an internet article or post containing the main content; as contrasted with BTL (&amp;quot;below the line&amp;quot;) where readers' comments appear.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | BAE || {{w|Barcelonnette – Saint-Pons Airfield|Barcelonnette}} || {{w|Beijing}} || Beijing is the capital of China. {{w|Beijing Capital International Airport|Its airport}} has the IATA code PEK (probably from Peking, alternate former spelling of its name). {{w|BAE Systems}} is the world's second-largest defense contractor, while &amp;quot;{{w|Bae (word)|Bae}}&amp;quot; is a slang term meaning girlfriend,  boyfriend, or significant other. Randall has presumably assigned this to Beijing as, when pronounced as a word, rather than an abbreviation, it resembles the first syllable.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | BLT || {{w|Blackwater Airport|Blackwater}} || {{w|Baltimore}} || A &amp;quot;{{w|BLT}}&amp;quot; is a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich. Baltimore is served by two airports with the codes BWI and MTN.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | BUF || {{w|Buffalo Niagara International Airport|Buffalo}} || {{w|Sunnydale}} || Sunnydale is a fictional California city that serves as the primary setting for ''{{w|Buffy the Vampire Slayer|'''Buf'''fy the Vampire Slayer}}''.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | CLT || {{w|Charlotte Douglas International Airport|Charlotte}} || [CENSORED] || The censored word may be &amp;quot;{{w|clitoris}}&amp;quot;. [[Randall]] has used this word in the comic before ([[243: Appropriate Term]]), but it is censored here for comic effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | DFW || {{w|Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport|Dallas/Fort Worth}} || Down For Whatever || &amp;quot;Down for Whatever&amp;quot; is an expression used to indicate that one is okay with doing whatever his or her friends are doing in a social situation, or whatever comes up during a social situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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 |DTF || ''not assigned'' || {{w|Dartford}} || &amp;quot;DTF&amp;quot; is an abbreviation used to indicate &amp;quot;Down To Fuck&amp;quot;. Dartford is a town in Kent, UK, about 10 miles SE of London. It does not have an airport. The nearest is probably {{w|London City Airport}}, LCY.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | DTW || {{w|Detroit Metropolitan Airport|Detroit}} || Down To Whatever || See &amp;quot;DFW&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;Down to Whatever&amp;quot; could indicate that one is getting on a plane with the intention of being fine with whatever the plane's destination turns out to be.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | DWI || ''not assigned'' || Delaware International || &amp;quot;DWI&amp;quot; is an abbreviation for &amp;quot;Driving While Intoxicated&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Driving While Impaired.&amp;quot; Randall notes in the ''{{w|What If?: Serious Scientific Answers to Absurd Hypothetical Questions|what if?}}'' book that Delaware has no commercial airports.  This entry is also a play on the nearby real airport BWI, Baltimore-Washington International.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | EWR || {{w|Newark Liberty International Airport|Newark}} || {{w|Edwards Air Force Base}} || Edwards Air Force Base (which has the IATA code EDW) is a United States Air Force installation north of Los Angeles in southern California. It is notable for its pivotal role in NASA spaceflight development.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | FFS || ''not assigned'' || {{w|Flagstaff station|Flagstaff Station}} || &amp;quot;FFS&amp;quot; is an abbreviation for &amp;quot;For Fuck's Sake.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;FLG&amp;quot; is the code for the Flagstaff, AZ airport.  Wikipedia has a page titled &amp;quot;Flagstaff station&amp;quot; (lowercase 's'), which references the former Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway depot, and is now an Amtrak station.  However, Amtrak calls the station simply &amp;quot;Flagstaff&amp;quot;, without the word &amp;quot;station&amp;quot;, on their station lists.  &lt;br /&gt;
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 | FHQ || ''not assigned'' || FHQWHGADS || The string &amp;quot;fhqwhgads&amp;quot; appeared as the first part of the sender name in the email &amp;quot;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lml_AKkhCVY i love you]&amp;quot; sent to Strong Bad in the {{w|Homestar Runner}} cartoons; Strong Bad ended up [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=votBDwhTu1E writing a song] dedicated to the &amp;quot;character&amp;quot;, and, after this comic's release, Strong Bad's official Twitter account [https://twitter.com/StrongBadActual/status/948696499885694976 posted about the reference].&lt;br /&gt;
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 | FYI || {{w|Fresno Yosemite International Airport}} || Fayetteville || &amp;quot;FYI&amp;quot; often stands for &amp;quot;For Your Information&amp;quot;. Fresno Yosemite International also has the code FAT for Fresno Air Terminal. Fayetteville is the name of many cities in the United States. Fayetteville, NC is the only Fayetteville served by airports: POB and FAY.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | HGM || ''not assigned'' || Hogsmeade || {{w|Places_in_Harry_Potter#Hogsmeade|Hogsmeade}} is a fictional location in the ''{{w|Harry Potter}}'' series.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | HSV || {{w|Huntsville International Airport|Huntsville}} || {{w|Huntsville, Alabama|Huntsville}} || This is one where Randall and the IATA agree. HSV is better known as the Hue-Saturation-Value color space or German soccer club Hamburger SV.  It is also Herpes Simplex Virus, a venereal disease. It is worth noting that the {{w|Marshall Space Flight Center|Marshall Space Flight Center}} and the {{w|U.S._Space_%26_Rocket_Center|U.S. Space &amp;amp; Rocket Center}} are both located in Huntsville and linked to NASA, which {{w|Randall_Munroe#NASA|Randall worked for}} prior to October 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | IAD || {{w|Washington Dulles International Airport|Washington (Dulles)}} || {{w|Boise Airport|Idaho (Boise)}} || IAD is the symbol for Dulles International Airport (which was originally &amp;quot;DIA&amp;quot; but it was felt that could be confused when hand-written with &amp;quot;DCA&amp;quot;, the sign for nearby {{w|Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport}}). The Idaho Falls airport is IDA, while Idaho (Boise) is BOI; Randall probably chose Boise as it is the largest and best-known city in Idaho.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | IUD || Doha || Washington (Dulles) || An &amp;quot;IUD&amp;quot; is an &amp;quot;IntraUterine Device,&amp;quot; or form of birth control.  Doha is the capital of Qatar in the Middle East and Persian Gulf. The actual IATA code for Dulles is IAD (see above).&lt;br /&gt;
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 | JFC || ''not assigned'' || {{w|Jefferson City}} || &amp;quot;JFC&amp;quot; is an abbreviation for &amp;quot;Jesus Fucking Christ.&amp;quot; JFK is John F. Kennedy International Airport, New York's main airport and one of the most famous in the world. Jefferson City is the state capital of Missouri served by the JEF airport, and also the name of several other cities.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | KUL || {{w|Kuala Lumpur International Airport|Kuala Lumpur}} || {{w|Kingdom of Loathing}} || Kingdom of Loathing is an online, browser-based RPG. It contains an [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Elemental_International_Airport International Airport], previously lacking a three digit code. Kuala Lumpur is the capital city of Malaysia.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | LAX || {{w|Los Angeles International Airport|Los Angeles}} || Las Angalas || &amp;quot;Las Angalas&amp;quot; is a &amp;quot;Los Angeles&amp;quot; with every vowel replaced with an &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; character. It's sometimes used as a joking nickname for &amp;quot;Los Angeles.&amp;quot; The Frank Black song &amp;quot;Los Angeles&amp;quot; uses this pronunciation.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | LOL || {{w|Derby Field|Lovelock, NV}} || {{w|Louisville}} || &amp;quot;LOL&amp;quot; often stands for &amp;quot;Laughing Out Loud&amp;quot;. Lovelock is a city in the state of Nevada. Louisville is the largest city in the state of Kentucky. The latter is served by the LJC and the SDF airport.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | MDW || {{w|Midway International Airport|Chicago, IL (Midway)}} || {{w|Midway Atoll}} || Midway Atoll was the site of one of the most significant World War II Pacific naval battles and is the namesake of the Chicago airport. Its actual IATA code is MDY.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | MIA || {{w|Miami International Airport|Miami}} || {{w|Colombo, Sri Lanka}} || M.I.A. is the stage name of a {{w|M.I.A. (rapper)|rapper of Sri Lankan heritage}}, although as a supporter of separatists from the north and east, where her family are from, she might not appreciate being associated with the southern capital. Colombo, Sri Lanka is served by three airports: CMB, RML (domestic) and BYV (domestic, seaplanes only). The use of MIA for Colombo may be a reference to the {{w|Columbo_(character)|fictional TV detective Columbo}}, whom one might have consulted in the case of a missing person. MIA also stands for &amp;quot;Missing In Action&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | OMW || ''not assigned'' || {{w|Omaha}} || Eppley Airfield in East Omaha, Nebraska, has an IATA code of OMA. &amp;quot;OMW&amp;quot; is an abbreviation for &amp;quot;On My Way.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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 | ORD || {{w|O'Hare International Airport|Chicago, IL (O'Hare)}} || {{w|Orlando}} || O'Hare Airport was once known as {{w|O'Hare International Airport#World_War_II|Orchard Field Airport}}, hence ORD. Orlando is served by four airports: ORL, DWS, MCO and SFB.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | PDX || {{w|Portland International Airport|Portland}} || Pordlanx || Consider how LAX has a random &amp;quot;X&amp;quot; at the end. And &amp;quot;ORD&amp;quot; is an actual IATA code. Randall messes with &amp;quot;Portland&amp;quot; here in much the same way.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | PHL || {{w|Philadelphia International Airport|Philadelphia, PA}} || {{w|Pittsburgh}} || Pittsburgh International Airport has a IATA code of PIT. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are the two largest cities in Pennsylvania and are at opposite ends of the state.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | SAN || {{w|San Diego International Airport|San Diego}} || San Diego&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Juan&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Jose&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Francisco&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Antonio || San Diego International Airport has SAN; nearby airports include Montgomery Field (MYF), MCAS Miramar (NKX), NAS North Island (NZY), Brown Field (SDM), and Gillespie Field (SEE).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;There are several cities named San Juan or San Jose. Their airport codes are as follows: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Juan, Puerto Rico: SJU and SIG.  &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Juan, Argentina: UAQ.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Jose, California, USA: SJC.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; San Jose, Costa Rica: SJO. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Jose, Mexico: SJD. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Jose, Philippines: SJI&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Francisco, CA has the airport  code of SFO.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;San Antonio, TX has the airport code of SAT.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Randall is perhaps commenting on the arbitrariness of assigning SAN to San Diego rather than any of the other cities starting with &amp;quot;San&amp;quot;; his plan to assign the code SAN to every place name beginning &amp;quot;San&amp;quot; would likely cause chaos for travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | SEA || {{w|Seattle–Tacoma International Airport|Seattle/Tacoma or SeaTac}} || [Indicates Water Landing] || This is presumably a reference to the fact that &amp;quot;SEA&amp;quot; could be interpreted as &amp;quot;Sea&amp;quot;. Unlike some other major airports (e.g., {{w|San Francisco International Airport}} and {{w|LaGuardia Airport}}), SeaTac is not actually on a major body of water, but missing the airport could still result in a water landing, as it is located only a few miles east of {{w|Puget Sound}} between the cities of Seattle and Tacoma, WA. Seattle has a water-landing-only airport on Lake Union run by Kenmore Air, but its IATA code is LKE. SEA is also a common abbreviation for {{w|Southeast Asia}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | SMH || Sapmanga || Smithfield || &amp;quot;SMH&amp;quot; often stands for &amp;quot;Shaking My Head&amp;quot;. Sapmanga is a location in Papua New Guinea. There are various cities named Smithfield around the world, none of them having airports.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | STL || {{w|St. Louis Lambert International Airport|St. Louis}} || {{w|Silent Hill}} || Silent Hill is a fictional city appearing in the series of video games and movies with the same name. &lt;br /&gt;
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 | SWF || {{w|Stewart International Airport|Newburgh, New York}} || {{w|Sherwood Forest}} || .swf is the file extension for ShockWave Flash files. &amp;quot;SWF&amp;quot; can also stand for &amp;quot;Single White Female&amp;quot; in personal ads. In legend, {{w|Sherwood Forest}} was the location of Robin Hood's hideout, and Doncaster Sheffield Airport (IATA DSA) was formerly called Robin Hood Airport.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | TBA || Tabibuga || {{w|Tribeca}} || &amp;quot;TBA&amp;quot; often stands for &amp;quot;To Be Announced&amp;quot;. Tabibuga is a location in Papua New Guinea. Tribeca (original styled TriBeCa) is an area in New York City, which does not have an airport. The closest airport to it is Downtown Manhattan Heliport (JRB). ''{{w|Angie Tribeca}}'' is an American comedy television series. &amp;quot;TBA&amp;quot; is a similar indication of uncertainty to &amp;quot;TBC&amp;quot;, which often stands for &amp;quot;To Be Confirmed&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | TMI || {{w|Tumlingtar Airport| Tumlingtar, Nepal}} || {{w|Turkmenistan}} International || &amp;quot;TMI&amp;quot; often stands for &amp;quot;Too Much Information&amp;quot;. Tumlingtar is a city in Nepal. Turkmenistan is a country in Central Asia which has six airports: ASB, CRZ, KRW, MYP, TAZ and URL. None of them are called &amp;quot;Turkmenistan International&amp;quot;, but KRW is called &amp;quot;Turkmenbashi International&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | YYY || {{w|Mont-Joli Airport|Mont-Joli, QC}} || {{w|Toronto}} Downtown || Mont-Joli is a city in Quebec,  Canada. The small airport in downtown Toronto is {{w|Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport}}, which has an actual IATA code of YTZ. This may be a play on the below designation for the larger Toronto airport, YYZ. It could also be Randall asking &amp;quot;why why why&amp;quot; some of these codes are so odd. Aside from YTZ, most airports in Canada have IATA code designations beginning with the letter Y, as many codes were created by adding the letter Y to preexisting two letter National Weather Station city designations. &lt;br /&gt;
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 | YYZ || {{w|Toronto Pearson International Airport|Toronto}} || {{w|Toronto Pearson International Airport|Toronto Pearson}} || This one is correct. The band Rush is from Toronto and named an instrumental song after the airport call sign. See {{w|YYZ (instrumental)}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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The title text is a pun about the acronym ''IATA'', stating it stands for '''I'''nternational '''A'''irpor'''T''' '''A'''bbreviation. This is as wrong as almost everything else here, because the real ''International Air Transport Association'' is not an organization only responsible for abbreviations in aviation. This acronym also leads to some redundancy in the title by making the true title of the comic be &amp;quot;International Airport Abbreviations Airport Abbreviations.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This comic could be inspired by the [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/02/indian-man-charged-over-airport-bomb-threat-says-phone-operator-misheard recent news] about an Indian businessman charged with making a bomb threat at a Mumbai airport claiming he was misheard by a telephone operator while asking for the {{w|Chhatrapati_Shivaji_International_Airport|BOM}} to {{w|Indira_Gandhi_International_Airport|DEL}} flight status.&lt;br /&gt;
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It may also be a reference to tongue-in-cheek '[http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1259621-internet-slang teen texting code]' explanations for older generations.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
:[A list with abbreviations and their meaning is shown in two columns.]&lt;br /&gt;
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:[On top left the header reads:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Confused by those airport abbreviations used by your friends who fly a lot?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just memorize this list!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[On top right some social media conversation is shown:]&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm flying into EWR tonight, then DTW tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Answer (in blue, two message bubbles):]&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok, cool&lt;br /&gt;
:I definitely know what those mean without Googling&lt;br /&gt;
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:[The list:]&lt;br /&gt;
:{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable style=border:none;&amp;quot;| &lt;br /&gt;
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| AMD || Amsterdam&lt;br /&gt;
| TMI || Turkmenistan International&lt;br /&gt;
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| BAE || Beijing&lt;br /&gt;
| LAX || Las Angalas&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| ORD || Orlando&lt;br /&gt;
| EWR || Edwards Air Force Base&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| IAD || Idaho (Boise)&lt;br /&gt;
| PHL || Pittsburgh&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| JFC || Jefferson City&lt;br /&gt;
| SWF || Sherwood Forest&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| IUD || Washington Dulles&lt;br /&gt;
| KUL || Kingdom of Loathing&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| FYI || Fayetteville&lt;br /&gt;
| STL || Silent Hill&lt;br /&gt;
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| LOL || Louisville&lt;br /&gt;
| BUF || Sunnydale&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| ATL || Atalante&lt;br /&gt;
| TBA || Tribeca&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| HGM || Hogsmeade&lt;br /&gt;
| SMH || Smithfield&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| OMW || Omaha&lt;br /&gt;
| BLT || Baltimore&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| ANC || Ankh-Morpork&lt;br /&gt;
| YYY || Toronto Downtown&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| HSV || Hunstville&lt;br /&gt;
| YYZ || Toronto Pearson&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| SAN || San Diego&lt;br /&gt;
| MIA || Colombo, Sri Lanka&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| SAN || San Juan&lt;br /&gt;
| CLT || [Censored]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| SAN || San Jose&lt;br /&gt;
| FHQ || Fhqwhgads&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| SAN || San Francisco&lt;br /&gt;
| FFS || Flagstaff Station&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| SAN || San Antonio&lt;br /&gt;
| DTF || Dartford&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| DWI || Delaware International&lt;br /&gt;
| MDW || Midway Atoll&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| DFW || Down for Whatever&lt;br /&gt;
| PDX || Pordlanx&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| DTW || Down to Whatever&lt;br /&gt;
| SEA || [Indicates Water Landing]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>1874: Geologic Faults</title>
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| number    = 1874&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = August 9, 2017&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Geologic Faults&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = geologic_faults.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = I live on a torn-bag-of-potato-chips-where-the-tear-is-rapidly-growing fault, which is terrifying.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by several fools with no knowledge of faults. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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This comic appears to be a successor to [[1714: Volcano Types]]. Similar to its predecessor, the comic explores several phenomena (in this case, geologic faults), both real phenomena and several made up for the point of a joke.&lt;br /&gt;
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A {{w|Fault (geology)|fault}} is a geologic feature involving a planar fracture with displacement in a large mass of rock, including the boundaries of two {{w|tectonic plates}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thrust faults were previously mentioned in [[1082: Geology]], and in the title text of [[1388: Subduction License]], [[Beret Guy]] tells [[Cueball]] he can't be a 'normal' roomate because in his motion he is creating a reverse fault.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Real geologic faults====&lt;br /&gt;
;Normal fault&lt;br /&gt;
In a {{w|Fault (geology)#Dip-slip faults|normal fault}}, the hanging wall (the lower wall; right) moves downward relative to the footwall (the upper wall; left). The Earth's crust is extended in this type of fault. &lt;br /&gt;
;Reverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
A reverse fault is basically the opposite of a normal fault. The hanging wall (left) moves upward relative to the footwall (right), and the Earth's crust is compressed.&lt;br /&gt;
;Transverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
A transverse fault, also known as a {{w|transform fault}}, is where the two plates move parallel to each other, but in opposite directions.&lt;br /&gt;
;Thrust fault&lt;br /&gt;
A {{w|thrust fault}} is when older rocks are pushed (or thrust) on top of younger rocks. The angles are typically lower (more horizontal) than in reverse faults.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fictional joke faults====&lt;br /&gt;
;Taffy fault&lt;br /&gt;
This appears to involve one tectonic plate, that is being stretched out like a piece of {{w|Taffy (candy)|taffy}}.&lt;br /&gt;
;Splinted fault&lt;br /&gt;
This appears to be a normal or reverse fault to which someone has attached a large splint.&lt;br /&gt;
;Squeezed-bar-of-soap fault&lt;br /&gt;
Two plates seem to be moving towards each other, while a third smaller plate is squeezed between them and pushed upwards, depicting a slippery bar of soap sliding between hands.&lt;br /&gt;
;Apple power cable fault&lt;br /&gt;
The plate appears to have been twisted and bent so many times that parts of it are fraying, similar a frayed Apple {{w|MagSafe}} connector. A similar joke is used in [[1406: Universal Converter Box]].&lt;br /&gt;
;Brio fault&lt;br /&gt;
The Brio fault seems to be two tectonic plates which join together like the Brio train track pieces do. {{w|Brio (company)|BRIO}} is a company from Sweden that makes wooden toys.&lt;br /&gt;
;Torn-bag-of-potato-chips-where-the-tear-is-rapidly-growing fault&lt;br /&gt;
The title text refers to when a bag of chips gets a tear in it. When that happens, it will almost always continue to grow as people get chips out of the bag, sometimes very quickly. It would be frightening to live near a fault that behaved like this because that could cause major seismic events very quickly. If you were close enough to the fault, you might also be afraid that the crack would grow underneath you and you would fall into the bag of chips.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon. Lacks small description for each item.}}&lt;br /&gt;
:[The comic shows nine different schematic views to present geographic faults and some more.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes with a slip fault drifting away to the left and right.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Normal fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes with a slip fault drifting against each other from left and right.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Reverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes moving sidewards.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Transverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[The left plane moves above the other to the right.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Thrust fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes drifting away and the connection between them gets smaller.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Taffy fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[On top of both planes a small piece with splints holds them together.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Splinted fault&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[The two planes pressing together with a piece in the middle moving topwards.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Squeezed-bar-of-soap fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[The right plane is connected to the left and swinging up and down.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Apple power cable fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[One side with a thin connector and the other with an evenly spaced hole connecting the planes together.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Brio fault&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1874:_Geologic_Faults&amp;diff=143933</id>
		<title>1874: Geologic Faults</title>
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				<updated>2017-08-10T22:48:39Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1874&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = August 9, 2017&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Geologic Faults&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = geologic_faults.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = I live on a torn-bag-of-potato-chips-where-the-tear-is-rapidly-growing fault, which is terrifying.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by several fools with no knowledge of faults. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comic appears to be a successor to [[1714: Volcano Types]]. Similar to its predecessor, the comic explores several phenomena (in this case, geologic faults), both real phenomena and several made up for the point of a joke.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A {{w|Fault (geology)|fault}} is a geologic feature involving a planar fracture and displacement in a large mass of rock, including the boundaries of two {{w|tectonic plates}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thrust faults were previously mentioned in [[1082: Geology]], and in the title text of [[1388: Subduction License]], [[Beret Guy]] tells [[Cueball]] he can't be a 'normal' roomate because in his motion he is creating a reverse fault.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Real geologic faults====&lt;br /&gt;
;Normal fault&lt;br /&gt;
In a {{w|Fault (geology)#Dip-slip faults|normal fault}}, the hanging wall (the lower wall; right) moves downward relative to the footwall (the upper wall; left). The Earth's crust is extended in this type of fault. &lt;br /&gt;
;Reverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
A reverse fault is basically the opposite of a normal fault. The hanging wall (left) moves upward relative to the footwall (right), and the Earth's crust is compressed.&lt;br /&gt;
;Transverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
A transverse fault, also known as a {{w|transform fault}}, is where the two plates move parallel to each other, but in opposite directions.&lt;br /&gt;
;Thrust fault&lt;br /&gt;
A {{w|thrust fault}} is when older rocks are pushed (or thrust) on top of younger rocks. The angles are typically lower (more horizontal) than in reverse faults.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Fictional joke faults====&lt;br /&gt;
;Taffy fault&lt;br /&gt;
This appears to involve one tectonic plate, that is being stretched out like a piece of {{w|Taffy (candy)|taffy}}.&lt;br /&gt;
;Splinted fault&lt;br /&gt;
This appears to be a normal or reverse fault to which someone has attached a large splint.&lt;br /&gt;
;Squeezed-bar-of-soap fault&lt;br /&gt;
Two plates seem to be moving towards each other, while a third smaller plate is squeezed between them and pushed upwards, depicting a slippery bar of soap sliding between hands.&lt;br /&gt;
;Apple power cable fault&lt;br /&gt;
The plate appears to have been twisted and bent so many times that parts of it are fraying, similar a frayed Apple {{w|MagSafe}} connector. A similar joke is used in [[1406: Universal Converter Box]].&lt;br /&gt;
;Brio fault&lt;br /&gt;
The Brio fault seems to be two tectonic plates which join together like the Brio train track pieces do. {{w|Brio (company)|BRIO}} is a company from Sweden that makes wooden toys.&lt;br /&gt;
;Torn-bag-of-potato-chips-where-the-tear-is-rapidly-growing fault&lt;br /&gt;
The title text refers to when a bag of chips gets a tear in it. When that happens, it will almost always continue to grow as people get chips out of the bag, sometimes very quickly. It would be frightening to live near a fault that behaved like this because that could cause major seismic events very quickly. If you were close enough to the fault, you might also be afraid that the crack would grow underneath you and you would fall into the bag of chips.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon. Lacks small description for each item.}}&lt;br /&gt;
:[The comic shows nine different schematic views to present geographic faults and some more.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes with a slip fault drifting away to the left and right.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Normal fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes with a slip fault drifting against each other from left and right.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Reverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes moving sidewards.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Transverse fault&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[The left plane moves above the other to the right.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Thrust fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[Two planes drifting away and the connection between them gets smaller.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Taffy fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[On top of both planes a small piece with splints holds them together.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Splinted fault&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[The two planes pressing together with a piece in the middle moving topwards.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Squeezed-bar-of-soap fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[The right plane is connected to the left and swinging up and down.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Apple power cable fault&lt;br /&gt;
:[One side with a thin connector and the other with an evenly spaced hole connecting the planes together.]&lt;br /&gt;
:Brio fault&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1688:_Map_Age_Guide&amp;diff=121313</id>
		<title>1688: Map Age Guide</title>
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				<updated>2016-06-03T13:37:32Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: corrected typos in I-25 item&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1688&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = June 1, 2016&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Map Age Guide&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = map_age_guide.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death? If yes, banshee. If no, seagull.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*A [http://xkcd.com/1688/large/ larger version] of this image can be found by clicking the image at xkcd.com - the comic's page can also be accessed by clicking on the comic number above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Another table with the possible year ranges and the length of their interval would be interesting. (Only for the political maps) What are the longest range after 1805 and how finely disected are the maps closer to today?}}&lt;br /&gt;
The comic consists of a flowchart depicting various ways to tell what era a map is from based on present country borders and land forms. (Except in the Not a Political Map Branch (from &amp;quot;Can you see the familiar continents?&amp;quot; downwards), the comic applies to a political map.) While many of the options are very serious, a few bizarre options reference to fictional maps ({{w|Discworld}}, {{w|Narnia}} and Tolkien's {{w|Middle-earth}}), or consider that seagulls, staplers, tubas or breadboxes could be mistaken for a map. Randall also mentions US President {{w|Jimmy Carter}} being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit, an event previously referenced as one we must never forget in [[204: America]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The flowchart, although probably effective in eventually identifying the production year of certain maps, is designed in a rather inefficient way as some early distinctions are already on a very detailed level before some really important distinctions (fictional or non-political map) are made. This, of course, adds to the humorous tone of the comic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, (possible) future maps including a &amp;quot;Radioactive Exclusion Zone&amp;quot; in the place of Colorado are mentioned. It predicts that some kind of nuclear incident will occur in Colorado (possibly at Rulison or Rio Blanco nuclear testing sites) in 2022. It also predicts that the area will be infested by radioactive spiders one year later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text continues the path where the user has confused a seagull for a map by inquiring if the (presumed) seagull might be a banshee based on the effect of its screams.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Table===&lt;br /&gt;
*Going through the flowchart, taking the leftmost path first, recursively. (Note there is no recursive loop). See also {{w|Depth-first search}}. &lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Prior Date Range&amp;quot; is the range determined immediately before the question, carried over from the previous question.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Question Date Range&amp;quot; is the range each answer choice implies. &lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;New Date Range&amp;quot; is the intersection of the Prior Date Range and the Question Date Range for each choice, and is the range determined by all questions hitherto answered.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border =1 width=100% cellpadding=5 class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! # !! Question !! Explanation !! Prior Date Range !! Question Date Range !! New Date Range&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 1&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Istanbul or Constantinople'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The largest city in Turkey is famous for having different names at different times or to different people. Variations on both names go back at least 1,000 years. Other names have also been used at various points. {{w|İstanbul}} has been the official name since the 1920's, although Western maps often referred to it as Constantinople as late as the 1960's; on the flowchart, the choice of name appears to go with the 1920's date. The name changes are the subject of a [http://mentalfloss.com/article/60314/original-istanbul-not-constantinople song], originally by the Four Lads, but now mainly known for the They Might Be Giants recording.&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Start here'''&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Constantinople: 330 A.D. - A.D. 1928 &lt;br /&gt;
* Neither: inconclusive&lt;br /&gt;
* Istanbul: 1928+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Constantinople: 330 A.D. - A.D. 1928 (Go to 2)&lt;br /&gt;
* Neither: inconclusive (Go to 19)&lt;br /&gt;
* Istanbul: 1928+ (Go to 52)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | '''Note:''' the chart splits here into three divisions, each from a choice in question 1. The Neither Division will attempt to use other indicators to sort maps into one of the other two divisions or branches thereof, or, after 5 failures to find a country, conclude that the &amp;quot;map&amp;quot; in question is not a political map and proceed to find out what it is (the Not a Political Map Branch). The Constantinople and Istanbul Divisions are linear except where the Neither Division joins them as stated above.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Constantinople Division&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 2&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Do any of these exist?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Independent Canada'''&lt;br /&gt;
* '''US Territory of Alaska'''&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Tokyo'''&lt;br /&gt;
| All these seem to specify a date cut-off of 1867/8, but there are caveats attached to each:&lt;br /&gt;
* Canada gained its independence gradually, but it would appear as its own country on maps some time between the {{w|Constitution Act, 1867}} (which created Canada as a British dominion) and the {{w|Statute of Westminster 1931}} (which made Canada largely self-governing).&lt;br /&gt;
* The {{w|Territory of Alaska}} existed between 1912 (previously, it was a US district) and 1959 (when it became a state). The US has owned Alaska since the 1867 {{w|Alaska Purchase}}, but it was not a territory then.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{w|Tokyo}} was once called Edo. It was renamed Tokyo (which means &amp;quot;Eastern Capital&amp;quot;) when it became the capital in 1868. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Tokyo%2CTokei&amp;amp;year_start=1870&amp;amp;year_end=1880&amp;amp;corpus=15&amp;amp;smoothing=3&amp;amp;share=&amp;amp;direct_url=t1%3B%2CTokyo%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CTokei%3B%2Cc0 Most English books around then] would actually have called it &amp;quot;Tokei&amp;quot;, the Chinese reading. The name Tokyo didn't take off until {{w|Hepburn romanization}} was popularized in the 1880s.&lt;br /&gt;
| 330 A.D. - A.D. 1928 (from 1)&lt;br /&gt;
1299 - 1922 (from 19 in the Neither Division)&lt;br /&gt;
(from 24 in the Neither Division)&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1867-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1868+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 330 A.D. - A.D. 1867 (Go to 3)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1868 - 1928 (Go to 11)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Holy Roman Empire Branch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 3&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The Holy Roman Empire'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The predecessor to modern Germany, the {{w|Holy Roman Empire}} was a union of hundreds of small states in Central Europe. Nationalism and the concept of the {{w|nation state}} hadn't taken off yet, so countries as we know them didn't really exist. There were just small lands, often with keenly contested borders, owned by minor aristocracy who pledged allegiance to one of the big powers. The HRE was dissolved in 1806 after it was invaded by Napoleon, arguably the first leader to realise the potential of making a nation salute a flag.&lt;br /&gt;
| 330 A.D. - A.D. 1867&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 899 - 1806&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 899- or 1806+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 899 - 1806 (Stated in comic as &amp;quot;1805 or earlier&amp;quot;, since modern map-making was fuzzy as a concept prior) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 330 A.D. - A.D. 899 or 1806-67 (Go to 4)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 4&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The United States?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The original 13 colonies declared independence in 1776. A map that does not include ''either'' the HRE ''or'' the USA must be older than the HRE which would put the map some time prior to 1000 AD, when there really were no countries, and English wasn't used yet, hence Randall's comment.&lt;br /&gt;
| 330 A.D. - A.D. 899 or 1806-67&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1776-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1776+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 330 A.D. - A.D. 899 (Not stated in comic, since a map in this period is probably not in English, which violates a proviso of the comic) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1806-67 (Go to 5)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 5&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Texas is...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of Mexico?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Independent?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of the US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Mexico occupied the area modern day Texas from around 1718 ({{w|Spanish Texas|when the first permanent Spanish settlements were founded}}) to the {{w|Texas Declaration of Independence}} in 1836 (the comic apparently cited 1834 as the date) - the land called &amp;quot;Texas&amp;quot; was only a small part of the modern day state. The {{w|Republic of Texas}} only lasted a decade, and joined the US in 1846.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1806-67&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Part of Mexico: 1718 - 1836&lt;br /&gt;
* Independent: 1836-46&lt;br /&gt;
* Part of the US: 1846+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Part of Mexico: 1806-36 (Go to 6)&lt;br /&gt;
* Independent: 1836-46 (stated in comic as 1834-45 - a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Part of the US: 1846-67 (Go to 9)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 6&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Florida is part of...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Spain?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Spain occupied {{w|Florida}} (as East Florida and West Florida) but frankly they didn't actually want it - it was expensive to send people to settle it, and there wasn't much economic value in it. So they gave it to the US for free in the 1819 {{w|Adams–Onís Treaty}} (which took effect in 1821) in exchange for the US giving up parts of Mexico and paying off angry Spanish settlers. (For some reason, the comic treats Florida as part of the US in 1818; see questions 7 and 8.)&lt;br /&gt;
| 1806-36&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Spain: 1565 - 1763 or 1783 - 1821&lt;br /&gt;
* The US: 1821+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Spain: 1806-21 (Go to 7)&lt;br /&gt;
* The US: 1821-36 (Go to 8)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 7&lt;br /&gt;
| '''{{w|Paraguay}}?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Declared independence from Spain in 1811 (although it might appear on older maps as the Spanish Province of Paraguay).&lt;br /&gt;
| 1806-21&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1811-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1811+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1806-11 (stated in comic as 1806-10) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1811-21 (stated in comic as 1811-17 - a discrepancy (see question 6)) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 8&lt;br /&gt;
| '''{{w|Venezuela}} and/or {{w|Ecuador?}}'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Both declared independence from {{w|Gran Colombia}} (Greater Colombia) in 1830.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1821-36&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1830-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1830+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1821-30 (stated in comic as 1818-29 - a discrepancy (see question 6)) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1830-36 (stated in comic as 1830-33 - a discrepancy (see question 5)) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 9&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The 1858 {{w|Treaty of Aigun}} brought the Russian border to the Sea of Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1846-67&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1858-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1858+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1846-58 (Go to 10)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1858-67 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 10&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The US's southern border looks... &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Weird &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Normal'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The last southward expansion of the US is the 1854 {{w|Gadsden Purchase}}, where the US bought a chunk of what is now Arizona and New Mexico so they could build a railway that avoided unfavourable terrain. The southern border looks &amp;quot;weird&amp;quot; before that because we are accustomed to the current border shape.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1846-58&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Weird: 1854-&lt;br /&gt;
* Normal: 1854+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Weird: 1846-54 (stated in comic as 1846-53) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Normal: 1854-58 (stated in comic as 1854-56 - a discrepancy (where is 1857?)) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | South Africa Branch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 11&lt;br /&gt;
| '''{{w|South Africa}}?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The Union of South Africa was created in 1910, although South Africa was then not yet fully independent from the United Kingdom (which would not happen until 1931).&lt;br /&gt;
| 1868 - 1928&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1910-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1910+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1868 - 1910 (Go to 12)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1910-28 (Go to 16)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 12&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Rhodesia?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The region was named {{w|Rhodesia_(region)|&amp;quot;Rhodesia&amp;quot;}} by the British South Africa Company in 1895. An {{w|Rhodesia|unrecognised state}} (1965-79) and a {{w|Southern_Rhodesia|colony}} (1923-80 on-and-off) also born this name, but they are both outside the Prior Date Range.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1868 - 1910&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1895-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1895+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1868-95 (Go to 13)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1895 - 1910 (Go to 15)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 13&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is Bolivia landlocked?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Bolivia}} lost its coastal territory to Chile in the {{w|War of the Pacific}}, ceding Antofagasta in the {{w|Treaty of Valparaiso}} in 1884.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1868-95&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1825-84&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1884+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1868-84 (Go to 14)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1884-95 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 14&lt;br /&gt;
| '''&amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| In 1873, the cities of {{w|Buda}} and {{w|Pest,_Hungary|Pest}} joined together to form the city of {{w|Budapest}}.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1868-84&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Buda and Pest: 1247 - 1873&lt;br /&gt;
* Budapest: 1873+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Buda and Pest: 1868-73 (stated in comic as 1868-72) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Budapest: 1873-84 (stated in comic as 1873-83) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 15&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is Norway part of Sweden?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Norway}} was ceded to Sweden in 1814, from which it separated in 1905.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1895 - 1910&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1814 - 1905&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1814- or 1905+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1895-1905 (Stated in comic as 1896-1905) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1905-10 (Stated in comic as 1906-09) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 16&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Austria-Hungary?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Austria-Hungary}} formed in 1867 and dissolved in 1918.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1910-28&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1867-1918&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1918+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1910-18 (Go to 17)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1918-28 (Go to 18)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 17&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Albania?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Albania}} declared independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1912.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1910-18 &lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1912-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1912+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1910-12 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1912-18 (stated in comic as 1913-18) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 18&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Leningrad?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Saint Petersburg}} was known as Leningrad between 1924 and 1991.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1918-28&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1924- or 1991+&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1924-91&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1918-24 (stated in comic as 1919-23) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1924-28 (stated in comic as 1924-29) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Neither Division&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 19&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does the Ottoman Empire exist?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The {{w|Ottoman Empire}} was founded in 1299, and defeated and dissolved on November 1, 1922 when the sultanate was abolished.&lt;br /&gt;
| Inconclusive&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1299-1922&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1299- or 1922+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1299-1922 (Go to 2 in the Constantinople Division)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1299- or 1922+ (Go to 20)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 20&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The Soviet Union?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The {{w|Soviet Union}} is one of the largest countries ever to exist consisting of Russia and large portions of eastern Europe and central Asia. It was a major political force from December 28, 1922, when several allied Soviet republics united, to 1991, when it broke up.&lt;br /&gt;
''Note:'' This question is the same as question 52 in the Istanbul Division, but because there a Prior Date Range of 1928+ has already been established by the presence of Istanbul, we need one more question to determine whether we are within the range of 1928+.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1299- or 1922+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1922-91&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1922- or 1991+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1922-91 (Go to 21)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) or 1991+ (Go to 22)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 21&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Saudi Arabia?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The kingdom of {{w|Saudi Arabia}} was founded in 1932.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1922-91&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1932+&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1932-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1932-91 (Go to 53 in the Istanbul Division)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1922-32 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 22&lt;br /&gt;
| '''North Korea?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The Korean Peninsula was divided into two regions, the north of which would be known as {{w|North Korea}}, at the end of World War II in 1945.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) or 1991+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1945+&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1945-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1991+ (Go to 69 in the Istanbul Division)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) (Go to 23)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 23&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Saint Trimble's Island'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Since [[Randall]] just made up this place, it is impossible that a map would include it.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28)&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: inconclusive&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: impossible&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) (Go to 24)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: impossible ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 24&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is Jan Mayen part of the kingdom of Norway?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Jurisdiction over the island of {{w|Jan Mayen}} was given to Norway around 1920, and it officially joined in 1930.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;'''Note:''' Strictly speaking, it should be almost impossible to answer &amp;quot;Yes&amp;quot; to this question - the Ottoman Empire existed until 1922, the Soviet Union existed from 1922 to 1991, and North Korea from 1945 onwards, so by answering &amp;quot;No&amp;quot; to the previous three questions, the user has ruled out the entire period during which Norway has officially owned Jan Mayen, and almost the entire period it controlled it bar an extremely slim sliver of time between November 1, 1922 to December 28, 1922. The following questions ignore the previous ones (East Germany only existed at the same time as the USSR, and Pakistan was founded later than North Korea, so both should have already been excluded) - essentially, the Jan Mayen question reboots the test.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28)&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Not yet: prior to 1930&lt;br /&gt;
* What?: Not a political map&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1930+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Not yet: (Go to 2 in the Constantinople Division)&lt;br /&gt;
* What?: (Go to 25)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: (Go to 54 in the Istanbul Division)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Not a Political Map Branch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 26&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Can you see the familiar continents?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| At this point it is clear that the map in question is not a political map from any time. Therefore the comic tries to determine whether it is a map of the Earth at all by asking if the continents are there.&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: map of the Earth (Go to 27)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 33)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Topographical Map / Satellite Image Subbranch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 27&lt;br /&gt;
| '''This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo.'''&lt;br /&gt;
| A map of the Earth that does not label political regions must be a topological map; or, it can be a satellite image of the Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
| Map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes, that's it: topographical map or satellite image of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes, that's it: topographical map or satellite image of the Earth (Go to 28)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 28&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is Lake Chad missing?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Lake Chad}} lost 3/4 of its area in the 1970s, becoming too small to be included in a map or picture of the Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
| Topographical map or satellite image of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1970s-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1970s+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1970s- (Go to 29)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1970s+ (Go to 32)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 29&lt;br /&gt;
| '''How far east do the American prairies reach?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| As settlers made their way west, the prairie land in the {{w|Great Plains}} region was steadily replaced by farmland and ranches. By the 1920s, most of the land had been converted to agricultural use, and the last of the prairie was largely obliterated by the {{w|Dust Bowl}}s in the 1930s. The dividing lines correspond roughly to the three types of prairie: {{w|tallgrass prairie}} grew between the Mississippi and Indiana, {{w|mixed grass prairie}} covered Nebraska and other states on the {{w|100th meridian west}}, and {{w|shortgrass prairie}} covered the remaining area east of the Rocky Mountains. There's some overlap in the dates, since it's fairly arbitrary where you draw the line between prairies and plains.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| 1970s-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Indiana: Before 1830&lt;br /&gt;
* The Mississippi: 1830 - 1880s&lt;br /&gt;
* Nebraska: 1860s - 1910s&lt;br /&gt;
* What prairies?: 1920s+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Indiana: Before 1830 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* The Mississippi: 1830 - 80s ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Nebraska: 1860s - 1910s (Go to 30)&lt;br /&gt;
* What prairies?: 1920s - 1970s (Go to 31)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 30&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is there a big lake in the middle of Southern California? (created by mistake)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| This is {{w|Salton Sea}}, a previously dry lake bed accidentally flooded in 1905 while attempting to increase irrigation to the area from the Colorado River&lt;br /&gt;
| 1860s - 1910s&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: before 1905&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1905+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1860s - 1900s ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1910s ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 31&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (created on purpose)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Lake Volta}}, formed by the {{w|Akosombo Dam}} which was built in the 1960s&lt;br /&gt;
| 1920s - 1970s&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: before 1960s&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1960s+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1920s - 50s ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1960s - 70s ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 32&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is the Aral Sea missing?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Shrinking since the 1930s, the {{w|Aral Sea}} would be too small to be on maps or images of the Earth by the 2000s.&lt;br /&gt;
| 1970s+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1990s-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2000s+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1970s-90s ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2000s+ ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | ''Topograpical Map / Satellite Image Subbranch ends''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Fictional Map / Non-Map Subbranch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 33&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Rivers &amp;quot;Sirion&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Anduin&amp;quot;?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The rivers {{w|List_of_Middle-earth_rivers#Sirion|Sirion}} and {{w|Anduin}} are part of {{w|Middle-earth|Middle Earth}}, the fictional setting of J.R.R. Tolkien's ''Lord of the Rings'' books.&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: map of Middle Earth&lt;br /&gt;
* No: inconclusive&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: map of Middle Earth (Go to 34)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 38)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Middle Earth Subbranch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 34&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Mordor?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Mordor}} is the base of operations of {{w|Sauron}}, who settled there c. 1000 in the {{w|Second Age}} (which lasted for 3,441 years).&lt;br /&gt;
| Map of Middle Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: S.A. c. 1000-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: S.A. c. 1000+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: S.A. c. 1000- (Go to 35)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: S.A. c. 1000+ (Go to 36)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 35&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Beleriand?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Beleriand}} was broken in the {{w|War of Wrath}} in the year 583 in the {{w|Years of the Sun}} in the {{w|First Age}} The First Age itself ran for 450 Valian Years and 590 Years of the Sun, adding up to between 5,023 and 65,390 Years of the Sun, depending on the conversion factor used ({{w|J. R. R. Tolkien}} has given several during the years). Note that Randall has apparently ignored the time before the First Age (4,550 Valian Years).&lt;br /&gt;
| S.A. c. 1000-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: Y.S. 583 First Age-&lt;br /&gt;
* No: Y.S. 583 First Age+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: Y.S. 583 First Age- (stated in comic as First Age) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: Y.S. 583 First Age - S.A. c. 1000 (stated in comic as early Second Age) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 36&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Númenor?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The island of {{w|Númenor}} was raised from the sea at the start of the Second Age. It sank back into the sea in 3319 in the Second Age, as the formerly flat Earth was made into a globe.&lt;br /&gt;
| S.A. c. 1000+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: S.A. 1 - 3319&lt;br /&gt;
* No: First Age- or S.A. 3319+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: S.A. c. 1000 - 3319 (stated in comic as late Second Age) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: S.A. 3319+ (Go to 37)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 37&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The forest east of the Misty Mountains is...'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The forest {{w|Mirkwood}} was called Greenwood the Great from its discovery by the Elves c. V.Y. 4620 in the First Age to 1050 in the {{w|Third Age}} when the shadow of Sauron fell upon it and it was renamed. It was cleansed on 'March' 28, 3019 in the Third Age (which ran for 3,021 years), after which it is called the Wood of Greenleaves. Note that Randall ignores the Fifth Age and onwards; although Tolkien said that the present day is about the end of the Sixth Age or the beginning of the Seventh, nothing is written about these later Ages.&lt;br /&gt;
| S.A. 3319+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Greenwood the Great: c. V.Y. 4620 - T.A. 1050&lt;br /&gt;
* Mirkwood: T.A. 1050 - 3019-03-28&lt;br /&gt;
* The Wood of Greenleaves: T.A. 3019-03-28+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Greenwood the Great: S.A. 3319 - T.A. 1050 (stated in comic as early Third Age) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Mirkwood: T.A. 1050 - 3019-03-28 (stated in comic as Late Third Age) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* The Wood of Greenleaves: T.A. 3019-03-28+ (stated in comic as Fourth Age) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | ''Middle Earth Subbranch ends''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 38&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Cair Paravel?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Cair Paravel}} is the fictional castle where the Kings and Queens of Narnia rule in ''{{w|The Chronicles of Narnia}}''.&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: map of Narnia&lt;br /&gt;
* No: inconclusive&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: map of Narnia (Go to 39)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 43)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Narnia Subbranch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | '''Note:''' This series contains seven books, whose original publication order does not match their chronological order. Specifically, ''The Magician's Nephew'' is earlier than ''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'', and ''The Horse and His Boy'' is between ''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'' and ''Prince Caspian''. Questions in this subbranch concern whether the place referenced can be found in the map contained in each book, not in which books' time the place exists. Therefore, places that exist in a book published later but is chronologically earlier than another book will not appear in the latter book, even if canonically they still exist in its time. Here are the seven books in their original publication order, which they will be referred to as.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe}}''&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|Prince Caspian}}''&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Voyage of the Dawn Treader}}''&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Silver Chair}}''&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Horse and His Boy}}''&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Magician's Nephew}}''&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Last Battle}}''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 39&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Calormen?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Calormen}} is a foreign empire in ''The Chronicles of Narnia''.  While it was indirectly referenced in the first three books, it was not included in maps until the later books in the series.&lt;br /&gt;
| Map of Narnia&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 3-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 4+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 3- (Go to 40)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 4+ (Go to 42)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 40&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Lotta islands?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Refers to [http://www.charliewstarr.com/_Media/mapdawntreader.gif this map] from ''The Voyage of the Dawn Treader'', which focused on a ship voyage from Cair Paravel to the eastern edge of the world and back.&lt;br /&gt;
| 3-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not 3&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 3&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 2- (Go to 41)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 3 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 41&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Beruna'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Refers to [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-54_2TDRUbHY/TpJHzFBzmiI/AAAAAAAALOA/q3RnPSvfdJ0/s1600/IMG.jpg the map] of Narnia originally published in Prince Caspian. During the time of ''The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe'', the people of Beruna crossed the Great River via a ford, but it had been replaced by a bridge at the beginning of ''Prince Caspian''.&lt;br /&gt;
| 2-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Ford: 1&lt;br /&gt;
* Bridge: 2&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Ford: 1 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Bridge: 2 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 42&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Weird recursive heaven?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Refers to ''The Last Battle'', where the protagonists find themselves in {{w|Aslan's Country}}, a glorious afterlife of which Narnia (along with Earth and presumably every other world) is only a shadowy reflection.&lt;br /&gt;
| 4+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 6-&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 7&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 4 - 6 (stated in comic as one of the random later books) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 7 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | ''Narnia Subbranch ends''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 43&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Mossflower?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| A forest from the ''{{w|Redwall}}'' book series.&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: ''Redwall''&lt;br /&gt;
* No: inconclusive&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: ''Redwall'' ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 44)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 44&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is the world on the back of a turtle?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The comic fantasy book series ''{{w|Discworld}}'' is set on the fictional Discworld, a flat disc balanced on the backs of four elephants which in turn stand on the back of a giant turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: ''Discworld''&lt;br /&gt;
* No: inconclusive&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: ''Discworld'' ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 45)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 45&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Are you ''sure'' this is a map?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| After incorrectly guessing several popular fictional world, it is fair to doubt whether the subject being identified here is a map at all.&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a map of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: a map ''for sure'', just not of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: a map ''for sure'', just not of the Earth (Go to 46)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: not a map (Go to 48)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 46&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Did you make it yourself?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| At this point, the map can only be a homemade map of some other fictional world.&lt;br /&gt;
| A map ''for sure'', just not of the Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: a homemade map&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: a homemade map (Go to 47)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 47&lt;br /&gt;
| '''It's very nice.'''&lt;br /&gt;
| A stock response to &amp;quot;[It's] Very nice&amp;quot; is &amp;quot;Thanks, I made it myself&amp;quot;. Since we have already done the &amp;quot;made it myself&amp;quot; part, we need to do the other parts too, albeit out of sequence.&lt;br /&gt;
| A homemade map&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Thank you!: something &amp;quot;very nice&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Thank you!: a &amp;quot;very nice&amp;quot; homemade map ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Not a Map Subbranch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 48&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is it trying to bite you?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Now we are trying to guess something that is not a map. Makes sense to ask if it's something that bites, right? Right?&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a map&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: doesn't bite&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: bites&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: doesn't bite and not a map (Go to 49)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: bites (Go to 50)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 49&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is it larger than a breadbox?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The most common reference to breadboxes is the phrase &amp;quot;Is it bigger than a breadbox?&amp;quot; when trying to guess what some surprise object may be in the game {{w|Twenty_Questions|Twenty Questions}}. However, instead of asking further questions to narrow down the choices, the comic just gives a guess for each response. The comic guesses a breadbox itself as something about the same size as a breadbox. &lt;br /&gt;
| Doesn't bite and not a map&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: larger than a breadbox&lt;br /&gt;
* No: smaller than a breadbox&lt;br /&gt;
* About the same: about the same size as a breadbox&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: larger than a breadbox, doesn't bite, and not a map (comic guesses a tuba) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: smaller than a breadbox, doesn't bite, and not a map (comic guesses a stapler) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* About the same: about the same size as a breadbox, doesn't bite, and not a map (comic guesses a breadbox) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 50&lt;br /&gt;
| '''If you let it go, what does it do?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
| Bites&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Hisses and runs away: hisses and runs away if let go&lt;br /&gt;
* Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Hisses and runs away: bites, and hisses and runs away if let go (comic guesses a cat) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: bites, and screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go (comic guesses a seagull) ('''Stop''' (however, see 51))&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 51&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| ''Note: Title text question.''&lt;br /&gt;
| Bites, and screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: Screeching chills your blood and heralds death&lt;br /&gt;
* No: Screeching does not chill your blood and herald death; or does not screech&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: bites; screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go; screeching chills your blood and heralds death (title text guesses a banshee) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: bites; screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go; screeching does not chill your blood and herald death (title text guesses a seagull) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Istanbul Division&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 52&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does the Soviet Union exist?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The Soviet Union,  officially the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, existed from 1922 - 1991. After 1991, the Soviet Union split up into Russia and 15 other post-Soviet states.&lt;br /&gt;
|1928+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1928 - 1991 &lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1991+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1928 - 1991 (Go to 53)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1991+ (Go to 70)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | West Africa branch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 53&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is most of West Africa a giant French blob?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Before 1960, most of West Africa consisted of a number of French colonies united under {{w|French_West_Africa|French West Africa}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|1928 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1928 - 1960 &lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1960 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1928 - 1960  (Go to 54)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1960 - 1991 (Go to 61)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 54&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Pakistan?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Pakistan was officially recognized as its own country separate from India in 1947.&lt;br /&gt;
|1928 - 1960&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1928 - 1947&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1947 - 1960 &lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1928 - 1947 (Go to 55)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1948 - 1960  (Go to 57)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 55&lt;br /&gt;
| '''How many Germanys are there?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| During WWII, the Nazi Party invaded a large swath of Europe, which would make Nazi Germany huge on the map during that period. After the war, it split up into two countries — West Germany which was part of NATO, and East Germany which was part of the Warsaw Pact. Note that by modern standards, pre-WWII Germany was also quite huge, since at that point Germany included {{w|Prussia}} which contained much of modern Poland as well as Russian {{w|Kaliningrad}}, and in 1938 Germany took control of Austria in the {{w|Anschluss}} and the {{w|Sudetenland}} in {{w|Czechoslovakia}} following the {{w|Munich Agreement}}. Not all maps produced during WWII used the Nazi borders, since the Allies refused to recognize German occupation and supported the {{w|government-in-exile|governments-in-exile}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|1928 - 1947 &lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* One: 1928 - 1940 &lt;br /&gt;
* One, but it's ''huge'': 1941 - 1945&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: 1946 - 1947&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* One: 1928 - 1940 (Go to 56) &lt;br /&gt;
* One, but it's ''huge'': 1941 - 1945 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: 1946 - 1947 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 56&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Persia or Iran?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Persia was renamed Iran in 1935. The interval from 1928 - 1930 is dropped from this branch, but it would fall under Persia.&lt;br /&gt;
|1928 - 1940 &lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Persia: 1930 - 1934&lt;br /&gt;
* Iran: 1935 - 1940&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Persia: 1930 - 1934 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Iran: 1935 - 1940 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 57&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Cambodia?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Cambodia (or Kampuchea) declared independence from France in 1953.&lt;br /&gt;
|1948 - 1960 &lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1948 - 1953&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1953 - 1960&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1948 - 1953 (Go to 58)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1953 - 1960 (Go to 60)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 58&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Eritrea is a part of...'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Eritrea declared independence from Italy in 1952, joining Ethiopia to create the {{w|Federation of Ethiopia and Eritrea}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|1947 - 1953&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Italy: 1948 - 1952&lt;br /&gt;
* Ethiopia: 1952 - 1953&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Italy: 1948 - 1952 (Go to 59)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ethiopia: 1952 - 1953 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 59&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Canada is...'''&lt;br /&gt;
| In 1949, the {{w|Dominion of Newfoundland}} became a part of Canada. Before that, it was marked as its own region on the map, so maps from 1948 and before would have Canada &amp;quot;missing a piece&amp;quot; on its east coast as compared to how it looks today.&lt;br /&gt;
|1947 - 1952 &lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Missing a piece: 1948&lt;br /&gt;
* Fine: 1949 - 1952&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Missing a piece: 1948 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Fine: 1949 - 1952 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 60&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The United Arab Republic?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The {{w|The United Arab Republic}} was a short-lived political union between Egypt and Syria. The union began in 1958 and existed until 1961.&lt;br /&gt;
This had been forgotten (and two placed had been pointed wrong)&lt;br /&gt;
|1953 - 1960&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1953-1958&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1958-1960&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1953-58 (stated in comic as 1954-47 - a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1958-60 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 61&lt;br /&gt;
| '''How many Vietnams are there?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| On April 30, 1975, forces from North Vietnam captured Saigon, and reunified the country, in an event known as {{w|Reunification Day}}, which marked the end of the Vietnam War. Maps before this date would have &amp;quot;North Vietnam&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;South Vietnam&amp;quot; on them rather than a single &amp;quot;Vietnam&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|1960 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: 1960 - 1975&lt;br /&gt;
* One: 1975 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: 1960 - 1975 (Go to 62)&lt;br /&gt;
* One: 1975 - 1991 (Go to 65)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 62&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Bangladesh?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Bangladesh declared independence from Pakistan in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
|1960 - 1975&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1960 - 1972&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1972 - 1975&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1960 - 1972 (Go to 63)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1972 - 1975 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 63&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is the area south of Lake Victoria...'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The area south of {{w|Lake Victoria}} was called {{w|Tanganyika}}, and it declared independence from Britain to form its own country in 1961, and unified with {{w|Zanzibar}} to create {{w|Tanzania}} in 1964.&lt;br /&gt;
|1960 - 1972 &lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* British: 1960 - 1961&lt;br /&gt;
* Tanganyika: 1961 - 1964&lt;br /&gt;
* Tanzania: 1965 - 1971&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* British: 1960 - 1961 (Go to 64)&lt;br /&gt;
* Tanganyika: 1961 - 1964 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Tanzania: 1965 - 1972 (stated in comic as 1964-1971 - a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 64&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is... '''&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Interstate 25 in New Mexico|I-25}} didn't exist for any of the years listed for this item, since the Interstate Highway System wasn't launched until 1956.  The highway designation on maps printed during the years listed was {{w|U.S._Route_85#New_Mexico|U.S. 85}}, and it was first replaced by the I-25 in 1970-1990.  The town changed it name from Hot Springs to &amp;quot;{{w|Truth or Consequences, New Mexico|Truth or Consequences}}&amp;quot; in 1950, although locals say that it provides more of the latter than of the former. Still the question would have made sense (although it should have been US 85) had it not been for the fact that the whole question is for the wrong time period, as the search tree leading to a British Tanganyika is only the period from 1960-1961. Actually this seems to fit with the &amp;quot;Canada is..&amp;quot; from 59 as it is the same time period.&lt;br /&gt;
|1960 - 1961&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Hot Springs: 1916-49&lt;br /&gt;
* Truth or Consequences: 1950+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Hot Springs: 1948-49 ('''Stop''') (a discrepancy as this is for a period from 1960-61)&lt;br /&gt;
* Truth or Consequences: 1950-52 ('''Stop''') (a discrepancy as this is for a period from 1960-61)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 65&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Jimmy Carter is...'''&lt;br /&gt;
| On April 20, 1979, Jimmy Carter was &amp;quot;{{w|Jimmy Carter rabbit incident|attacked}}&amp;quot; by a swamp rabbit, a fact referenced in [[204|204: America]]. This fact would not normally be referenced on a map, however, and is simply a joke entry that leads to the next question.&lt;br /&gt;
|1975 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: April 20, 1979&lt;br /&gt;
* Fine: 1975 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: April 20, 1979 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Fine: 1975 - 1991 (Go to 66)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 66&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The Sinai is part of what country?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| In 1979, Israel signed a peace treaty in which it would gradually retreat from the entire Sinai Peninsula, handing that area to Egypt. This happened over a period of three years, completing in 1982.&lt;br /&gt;
|1975 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Israel: 1976 - 1979&lt;br /&gt;
* Mostly Israel: 1980&lt;br /&gt;
* Mostly Egypt: 1981&lt;br /&gt;
* Egypt: 1982 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Israel: 1976 - 1979 (missing 1975?) ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Mostly Israel: 1980 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Mostly Egypt: 1981 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Egypt: 1982 - 1991 (Go to 67)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 67&lt;br /&gt;
| '''What's the capital of Micronesia?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| The {{w| Federated States of Micronesia}} are a group of small islands in the Pacific Ocean. Their capital was Kolonia until 1989, when it changed to Palikir, on the same island.&lt;br /&gt;
|1982 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Kolonia: 1982 - 1988&lt;br /&gt;
* Palikir: 1989 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Kolonia: 1982 - 1988 (Go to 68)&lt;br /&gt;
* Palikir: 1989 - 1991 (Go to 69)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 68&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Burkina Faso was named the Republic of the Upper Volta until 1984, when the president Thomas Sankara decided to rename it.&lt;br /&gt;
|1982 - 1988&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Upper Volta: 1982 - 1984&lt;br /&gt;
* Burkina Faso: 1985 - 1988&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Upper Volta: 1982 - 1984 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Burkina Faso: 1985 - 1988 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 69&lt;br /&gt;
| '''(Number of Yemens) + (Number of Germanys) = ?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| In 1990, two unification events took place: the {{w| Yemeni unification}} on May 22, and the {{w|German_reunification}} on October 3. Before these events, in early 1990, there would have been four Yemens and Germanys total. In mid-1990, when only the Yemeni unification had taken place, there would be one Yemen and two Germanys, for a total of three. and in late 1990, after both events took place, there would be one of each for a total of two.&lt;br /&gt;
|1989 - 1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Four: 1989 - early 1990&lt;br /&gt;
* Three: mid-1990&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: late 1990-1991&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Four: 1989 - early 1990 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Three: mid-1990 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: late 1990-1991 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; | Post-Soviet branch&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 70&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Zaire? or: &amp;quot;Hong Kong (UK)&amp;quot;''' &lt;br /&gt;
| Zaire was one of a series of names for what is today called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In 1996 a (successful) revolt began to oust the reigning government from power. As part of this revolution, the country was renamed. The original name change away from 'Congo' was part of an 'Africanisation' naming campaign, although 'Congo' is in origin an authentic African name for the river that set the boundaries of the nation. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Hong Kong}} was taken by the British in 1843 at the end of the {{w|First Opium War}}, and an additional area (the New Territories) were leased from China in 1898 on a 99-year lease. When the lease expired in 1997, {{w|Transfer of sovereignty over Hong Kong|the whole of Hong Kong was returned to China}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|1991+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1992 - 1996&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1996+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 1992 - 1996  ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1996+ (Go to 71)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 71&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Serbia and Montenegro are...'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Serbia and Montenegro were a remnant of Yugoslavia. Montenegro voted to become its own country in 2006.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;'''Note:''' For much of the prior date range, &amp;quot;Serbia and Montenegro&amp;quot; did not appear on maps - the states still went by the name Yugoslavia. {{w|Serbia and Montenegro#State union|Serbia and Montenegro only came into existence in 2003}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|1996+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* One country: 1996 - 2006&lt;br /&gt;
* Two countries: 2007+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* One country: 1996 - 2006  (Go to 72)&lt;br /&gt;
* Two countries: 2007+ (Go to 73)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 72&lt;br /&gt;
| '''East Timor?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| East Timor is a nation north of Australia and south east of Indonesia. During the dutch colonization of Indonesia east Timor remained in Portuguese hands. While occupied and annexed by Indonesia since 1976, east Timor retained its own culture and voted for independence, then had a nasty militia action that required UN peacekeeping action, and finally become independent in 2002.&lt;br /&gt;
|1996 - 2006&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1997 - 2001&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2002 - 2006&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 1997 - 2001 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2002 - 2006 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 73&lt;br /&gt;
| '''How many Sudans are there?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| In 2011, after a long history of violence between the two portions of the country (which can be characterized as Islamic vs. Christian and Traditional Religions), South Sudan became independent from its northern neighbor.&lt;br /&gt;
|2006+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* One: 2007 - 2011&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: 2011+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* One: 2007 - 2011 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Two: 2011+ (Go to 74)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 74&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Is Crimea disputed?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| In 2014, a revolution ousted the current Ukrainian president. Crimea had its own civil unrest, and Russian troops exploited the unrest to launch an invasion. A referendum, where many nations, including all member states of the EU, the USA, and Canada, disputed the democratic legitimacy of the referendum, was held during this and ostensibly decided in favor of Russian annexation. Depending on where you get your maps, Crimea might not be marked as disputed - [http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/04/12/302337754/google-maps-displays-crimean-border-differently-in-russia-u-s Google Maps Ukraine shows it as solely Ukrainian while Google Maps Russia shows it as Russian].&lt;br /&gt;
|2011+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2014+&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 2012 - 2013&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2014+ (Go to 75)&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 2012 - 2013 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 75&lt;br /&gt;
| '''&amp;quot;Colorado&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid&amp;quot;?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| This entry and the one below it are now referring to hypothetical future events: specifically, a huge radioactivity event in Colorado that takes place some time in 2022. Colorado has a previous history of radioactive contamination - it was home to uranium mines, nuclear tests (including {{w|Project Rulison}}, an attempt to nuclear bombs to drill for natural gas that ended up making the gas radioactive) and the controversial {{w|Rocky Flats Plant}}, a nuclear weapons manufacturing facility that suffered {{w|Radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant|several fires and leaks}} and was ultimately raided and shut down by the FBI. None of these has yet caused spiders to mutate.{{Citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
|2014+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Colorado: 2014 - 2021&lt;br /&gt;
* Danger: 2022+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* Colorado: 2014 - 2021 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Danger: 2022+ (Go to 76)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! 76&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does the warning mention the spiders?'''&lt;br /&gt;
| Presumably some time in 2023, the radioactive exclusion zone also becomes infested with mutant spiders.&lt;br /&gt;
|2022+&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 2022&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2023 or later&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* No: 2022 ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes: 2023 or later ('''Stop''')&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Guide to figuring out the age of an undated world map&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Assuming it's complete, labeled in english, and detailed enough)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start:&lt;br /&gt;
* Istanbul or Constantinople?&lt;br /&gt;
** Constantinople:&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;canada-alaska-tokyo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Do any of these exist? Independent Canada; US Territory of Alaska; Tokyo.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Holy Roman Empire?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* 1805 or earlier (before this point, the modern idea of a complete political map of the world gets hard to apply.)&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* The United States?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* How sure are you that this map is in english?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Texas is...&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of Mexico:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Florida is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
************ Spain:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Paraguay?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1806-10'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1811-17'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ The US:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Venezuela and/or ecuador?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1818-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1830-33'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Independent: '''1834-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of the US:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* The US's southern border looks...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Weird: '''1846-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Normal: '''1854-56'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1858-67'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** South Africa?&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Rhodesia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Bolivia landlocked?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Buda and Pest: '''1868-72'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Budapest: '''1873-83'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1884-95'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Norway part of Sweden?&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1896-1905'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1906-09'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Austria-Hungary?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Albania?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1910-12'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1913-18'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Leningrad?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1919-23'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1924-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Neither:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Ottoman Empire exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes: '''[[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Soviet Union?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Saudi Arabia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;west-africa-french-blob&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Is most of West Africa a giant french blob?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;bangladesh&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Bangladesh?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Is the area south of Lake Victoria...&lt;br /&gt;
************** British:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Hot Springs: '''1948-49'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Truth or Consequences: '''1950-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanganyika: '''1961-64'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanzania: '''1965-71'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1972-75'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** How many Vietnams are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#bangladesh]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ One:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Jimmy Carter is...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: '''April 20, 1979'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Fine:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The Sinai is part of what country?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Israel: '''1976-79'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Israel: '''1980'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Egypt: '''1981'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Egypt:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** What's the capital of Micronesia?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Kolonia:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Upper Volta: '''1982-84'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Burkina Faso: '''1985-88'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Palikir:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* (number of Yemens) + (number of Germanys) = ?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Four: '''1989-early 1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Three: '''mid-1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Two: '''late 1990-1991'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No: '''1922-1932'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* North Korea?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;zaire&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Zaire? or: '''&amp;quot;Hong Kong (UK)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1992-96'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Serbia/Montenegro are...&lt;br /&gt;
************ One country:&lt;br /&gt;
************* East Timor?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1997-2001'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''2002-06'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two countries:&lt;br /&gt;
************* How many Sudans are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************** One: '''2007-11'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Two:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Is Crimea disputed?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** &amp;quot;Colorado&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Colorado: '''2014-21'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Danger:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Does the warning mention the spiders?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''2022'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''2023 or later'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No: '''2012-13'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Saint Trimble's Island&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Is Jan Mayen part of the Kingdom of Norway?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Not yet:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ What?&lt;br /&gt;
************* Can you see the familiar continents?&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo.&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes, that's it&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Is Lake Chad missing?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* How far east do the American Prairies reach?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Indiana: '''before 1830'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** The Mississippi: '''1830s-80s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Nebraska:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Southern California? (created by mistake)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1860s-1900s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1910s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** What prairies?&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (created on purpose)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1920s-50s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1960s-70s'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Is the Aral Sea missing?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''1970s-90s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''2000s+'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Rivers &amp;quot;Sirion&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Anduin&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Mordor?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Beleriand?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''First Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''Early Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Númenor?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''Late Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* The forest east of the Misty Mountains is...&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Greenwood: '''Early Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Mirkwood: '''Late Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** The Wood of Greenleaves: '''Fourth Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Cair Paravel?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Calormen?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Lotta Islands?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Beruna&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Ford: '''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Bridge: '''Prince Caspian'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Dawn Treader'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Weird recursive heaven?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''One of the random later books'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''The Last Battle'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Mossflower?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Redwall&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is the world on the back of a turtle?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Discworld'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Are you ''sure'' this is a map?&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Did you make it yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** It's very nice.&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
************************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Is it trying to bite you?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** Is it larger than a breadbox?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Yes: '''tuba'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** No: '''stapler'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** About the same: '''breadbox'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** If you let it go, what does it do?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Hisses and runs away: '''cat'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: '''seagull'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Pakistan?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** How many Germanys are there?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Persia or Iran?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Persia: '''1930-34'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Iran: '''1935-40'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One, but it's ''huge'': '''1941-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Two: '''1946-47'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Cambodia?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Eritrea is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Italy:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Canada is...&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Missing a piece: '''1948'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Fine: '''1949-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Ethiopia: '''1952-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** The United Arab Republic?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No: '''1954-57'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes: '''1958-60'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''No, I made that one up.'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Istanbul:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Soviet Union exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#west-africa-french-blob]]&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#zaire]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Large drawings]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Flowcharts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Maps]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Time]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Geography]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring politicians]]   &amp;lt;!-- Jimmy Carter --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]   &amp;lt;!-- Cat and seagull --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:LOTR]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1688:_Map_Age_Guide&amp;diff=121149</id>
		<title>1688: Map Age Guide</title>
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				<updated>2016-06-01T21:08:31Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: clearer wording on &amp;quot;I-25 town&amp;quot; item.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1688&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = June 1, 2016&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Map Age Guide&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = map_age_guide.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death? If yes, banshee. If no, seagull.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*A [http://xkcd.com/1688/large/ larger version] of this image can be found by clicking the image at xkcd.com - the comic's page can also be accessed by clicking on the comic number above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Many is still missing.}}&lt;br /&gt;
Flowchart depicting various ways to tell what era a map is from based on present country borders and land forms. Most of the options are very serious,with a few bizarre options (mistaking a seagull and breadbox for a map) or references to things like the {{w|Discworld}} books and Middle-earth, the setting of the Lord Of the Rings series. He also mentions US President Jimmy Carter being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit, an event previously referenced by [[204]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, (possible) future maps including a &amp;quot;Radioactive Exclusion Zone&amp;quot; in the place of Colorado are mentioned. It predicts that some kind of nuclear incident will occur in Colorado (possibly at Rulison or Rio Blanco nuclear testing sites) in 2022. It also predicts that the area will be infested by radioactive spiders one year later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text continues the path where the user has confused a seagull for a map by inquiring if the (presumed) seagull might be a banshee based on the effect of its screams.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(First Draft, please expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Going through the flowchart, taking the leftmost path first, recursively. See {{w|Depth-first search}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border =1 width=100% cellpadding=5 class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|'''Question''' || '''Explanation''' &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|'''Istanbul or Constantinople'''&lt;br /&gt;
||The largest city in Turkey is famous for having different names at different times or to different people. Variations on both names go back at least 1,000 years. Other names have also been used at various points. İstanbul has been the official name since the 1920's, although Western maps often referred to it as Constantinople as late as the 1960's; on the flowchart, the choice of name appears to go with the 1920's date. The name changes are the subject of a [http://mentalfloss.com/article/60314/original-istanbul-not-constantinople song], originally by the Four Lads, but now mainly known for the They Might Be Giants recording.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Do any of these exist? &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Independent Canada &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; US Territory of Alaska &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Tokyo'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| All these seem to specify a date cut-off of 1867/8, but there are caveats attached to each:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Canada gained its independence gradually, but it would appear as its own country on maps some time between the {{w|Constitution Act, 1867}} (which created Canada as a British dominion) and the {{w|Statute of Westminster 1931}} (which made Canada largely self-governing).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The {{w|Territory of Alaska}} existed between 1912 (previously, it was a US district) and 1959 (when it became a state). The US has owned Alaska since the 1867 {{w|Alaska Purchase}}, but it was not a territory then.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{w|Tokyo}} was once called Edo. It was renamed Tokyo (which means &amp;quot;Eastern Capital&amp;quot;) when it became the capital in 1868. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Tokyo%2CTokei&amp;amp;year_start=1870&amp;amp;year_end=1880&amp;amp;corpus=15&amp;amp;smoothing=3&amp;amp;share=&amp;amp;direct_url=t1%3B%2CTokyo%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CTokei%3B%2Cc0 Most English books around then] would actually have called it &amp;quot;Tokei&amp;quot;, the Chinese reading. The name Tokyo didn't take off until {{w|Hepburn romanization}} was popularized in the 1880s.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The Holy Roman Empire'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The predecessor to modern Germany, the {{w|Holy Roman Empire}} was a union of hundreds of small states in Central Europe. Nationalism and the concept of the {{w|nation state}} hadn't taken off yet, so countries as we know them didn't really exist. There were just small lands, often with keenly contested borders, owned by minor aristocracy who pledged allegiance to one of the big powers. The HRE was dissolved in 1806 after it was invaded by Napoleon, arguably the first leader to realise the potential of making a nation salute a flag.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The United States?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The original 13 colonies declared independence in 1776. A map that does not include ''either'' the HRE ''or'' the USA must be older than the HRE which would put the map some time prior to 1000 AD, when there really were no countries, hence Randall's confusion.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Texas is...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of Mexico?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Independent?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of the US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Mexico occupied the area modern day Texas from around 1718 ([[w:Spanish Texas|when the first permanent Spanish settlements were founded]]) to the {{w|Texas Declaration of Independence}} in 1836 - the land called &amp;quot;Texas&amp;quot; was only a small part of the modern day state. The {{w|Republic of Texas}} only lasted a decade, and joined the US in 1846.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Florida is part of...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Spain?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Spain occupied Florida (as East Florida and West Florida) but frankly they didn't actually want it - it was expensive to send people to settle it, and there wasn't much economic value in it. So they gave it to the US for free in the 1819 {{w|Adams–Onís Treaty}} in exchange for the US giving up parts of Mexico and paying off angry Spanish settlers.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Paraguay?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Declared independence from Spain in 1811 (although it might appear on older maps as the Spanish Province of Paraguay).&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Venezuela and/or Ecuador?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Both declared independence from {{w|Gran Colombia}} (Greater Colombia) in 1830.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?'''&lt;br /&gt;
||Russia currently borders the sea of Japan so the 1867 upper limit is because of Tokyo not existing higher in the chain.  The 1858 limit is to do with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Aigun Treaty of Aigun]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The US's southern border looks... &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Weird &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Normal'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The 1853 cut-off date suggests that this is about the {{w|Gadsden Purchase}}, when the US bought a chunk of what is now Arizona and New Mexico so they could build a railway that avoided unfavourable terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Constantinople / Do any of these exist? / '''Independent Canada - US Territory or Alaska - Tokyo''' No&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Constantinople / Do any of these exist? / No / '''The United States'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Neither / Does the Ottoman Empire exist? /  No / '''The Soviet Union?''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Soviet Union is one of the largest countries ever to exist consisting of Russia and large portions of eastern Europe and central Asia. It was a major political force from 1922, when several allied soviets republics united, to 1991, when it broke up. Its very simple to find on any map that has it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Zaire was one of a series of names for what is today called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In 1996 a (successful) revolt began to oust the reigning government from power. As part of this revolution, the country was renamed. The origonal name change away from 'Congo' was part of an 'Africanisation' naming campaign, although 'Congo' is in origin an authentic African name for the river that set the boundaries of the nation.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Serbia and Montenegro were a remnant of Yugoslavia. Montenegro voted to become its own country in 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
East Timor is a nation north of Australia and south east of Indonesia. During the dutch colonization of Indonesia east Timor remained in Portuguese hands. While occupied and annexed by Indonesia since 1976, east Timor retained its own culture and voted for independence, then had a nasty militia action that required UN peacekeeping action, and finally become independent in 2002.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2011, after a long history of violence between the two portions of the country (which can be characterized as Islamic vs. Christian and Traditional Religions), South Sudan became independent from its northern neighbor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2014, a revolution ousted the current Ukrainian president. The Crimea had its own civil unrest, and Russian troops intervened to restore order. A referendum held during this time has decided in favor of russian annexation. Many nations, including all member states of the EU and the USA, dispute the results of the referendum. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo''' &lt;br /&gt;
The following questions are about physical geography. Many of these features are not generally tracked accurately in maps - many maps still show the Aral Sea, even though it's now mostly evaporated - but are clearly visible in photos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Is there a big lake in Southern California? (Created by Mistake)''' &lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea Salton Sea] A previously dry lakebed accidentally flooded in 1905 while attempting to increase irrigation to the area from the Colorado River&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''How far East do the American Prairies reach?'''&lt;br /&gt;
The Northwest Territory was incorporated in pieces ~1820s, there may be something more relevant to draw the line at Indiana though.  Likely this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_removals_in_Indiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (Created on Purpose)'''&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Volta Lake Volta]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The US's southern border looks'''&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Purchase Gadsden Purchase]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest#Etymology Buda and Pest] were originally two different cities&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Rhodesia?''' The dates down the chain suggest this is about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia_(region) Rhodesia the Region] not [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia Rhodesia the Unrecognized state] nor [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Rhodesia Southern Rhodesia] the British Colony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Cair Paravel?'''&lt;br /&gt;
Cair Paravel is a castle in the Narnia book series where the Kings and Queens of Old reigned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Calormen?'''&lt;br /&gt;
Calormen is yet another area in the Narnia book series, a country southeast of Narnia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Weird Recursive Heaven?'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to the last book in the Narnia series, The Last Battle, where the protagonists find themselves in a &amp;quot;heaven&amp;quot; containing many more of itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Lotta Islands?'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to the Lone Islands, a group of islands of Narnian territory off the country's coast.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Beruna (Ford/Bridge)'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to both The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe and Prince Caspian; in the former book, set centuries before Prince Caspian, there existed a ford named Beruna. In Prince Caspian, centuries had passed after the preceding book, and the ford eventually turned into a bridge to transport foreign troops.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Mossflower'''&lt;br /&gt;
A forest from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwall Redwall] book series.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(For the Istanbul branch) '''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is [Hot Springs 1948-49] or [Truth or Consequences 1950-52]'''&lt;br /&gt;
I-25 didn't exist for any of the years listed for this item, since the Interstate Highway System wasn't launched until 1956.  The highway designation on maps printed during the years listed was U.S. 85.  The town continues to be called &amp;quot;Truth or Consequences&amp;quot;, although locals say that it provides more of the latter than of the former.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Guide to figuring out the age of an undated world map&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Assuming it's complete, labeled in english, and detailed enough)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start:&lt;br /&gt;
* Istanbul or Constantinople?&lt;br /&gt;
** Constantinople:&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;canada-alaska-tokyo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Do any of these exist? Independent Canada; US Territory of Alaska; Tokyo.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Holy Roman Empire?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* 1805 or earlier (before this point, the modern idea of a complete political map of the world gets hard to apply.)&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* The United States?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* How sure are you that this map is in english?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Texas is...&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of Mexico:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Florida is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
************ Spain:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Paraguay?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1806-10'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1811-17'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ The US:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Venezuela and/or ecuador?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1818-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1830-33'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Independent: '''1834-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of the US:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* The US's southern border looks...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Weird: '''1846-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Normal: '''1854-56'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1858-67'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** South Africa?&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Rhodesia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Bolivia landlocked?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Buda and Pest: '''1868-72'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Budapest: '''1873-83'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1884-95'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Norway part of Sweden?&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1896-1905'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1906-09'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Austria-Hungary?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Albania?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1910-12'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1913-18'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Leningrad?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1919-23'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1924-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Neither:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Ottoman Empire exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes: '''[[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Soviet Union?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Saudi Arabia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;west-africa-french-blob&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Is most of West Africa a giant french blob?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;bangladesh&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Bangladesh?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Is the area south of Lake Victoria...&lt;br /&gt;
************** British:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Hot Springs: '''1948-49'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Truth or Consequences: '''1950-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanganyika: '''1961-64'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanzania: '''1965-71'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1972-75'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** How many Vietnams are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#bangladesh]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ One:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Jimmy Carter is...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: '''April 20, 1979'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Fine:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The Sinai is part of what country?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Israel: '''1976-79'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Israel: '''1980'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Egypt: '''1981'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Egypt:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** What's the capital of Micronesia?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Kolonia:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Upper Volta: '''1982-84'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** 1985-88&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Palikir:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* (number of Yemens) + (number of Germanys) = ?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Four: '''1989-early 1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Three: '''mid-1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Two: '''late 1990-1991'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No: '''1922-1932'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* North Korea?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;zaire&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Zaire? or: '''&amp;quot;Hong Kong (UK)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1992-96'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Serbia/Montenegro are...&lt;br /&gt;
************ One country:&lt;br /&gt;
************* East Timor?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1997-2001'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''2002-06'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two countries:&lt;br /&gt;
************* How many Sudans are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************** One: '''2007-11'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Two:&lt;br /&gt;
************** Is Crimea disputed?&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
**************** &amp;quot;Colorado&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Colorado: '''2014-21'''&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Danger:&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Does the warning mention the spiders?&lt;br /&gt;
******************* No: '''2022'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Yes: '''2023 or later'''&lt;br /&gt;
*************** No: '''2012-13'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Saint Trimble's Island&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Is Jan Mayen part of the Kingdom of Norway?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Not yet:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ What?&lt;br /&gt;
************* Can you see the familiar continents?&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo.&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes, that's it&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Is Lake Chad missing?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* How far east do the American Prairies reach?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Indiana: '''before 1830'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** The Mississippi: '''1830s-80s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Nebraska:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Southern California? (created by mistake)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1860s-1900s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1910s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** What prairies?&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (created on purpose)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1920s-50s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1960s-70s'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Is the Aral Sea missing?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''1970s-90s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''2000s+'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Rivers &amp;quot;Sirion&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Anduin&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Mordor?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Beleriand?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''First Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''Early Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Númenor?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''Late Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* The forest east of the Misty Mountains is...&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Greenwood: '''Early Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Mirkwood: '''Late Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** The Wood of Greenleaves: '''Fourth Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Cair Paravel?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Calormen?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Lotta Islands?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Beruna&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Ford: '''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Bridge:&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Prince Caspian'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Weird recursive heaven?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''one of the random later books'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''The Last Battle'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Mossflower?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Redwall&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is the world on the back of a turtle?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Discworld'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Are you ''sure'' this is a map?&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Did you make it yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** It's very nice.&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
************************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Is it trying to bite you?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** Is it larger than a breadbox?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Yes: '''tuba'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** No: '''stapler'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** About the same: '''breadbox'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** If you let it go, what does it do?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Hisses and runs away: '''cat'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: '''seagull'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Pakistan?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** How many Germanys are there?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Persia or Iran?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Persia: '''1930-34'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Iran: '''1935-40'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One, but it's ''huge'': '''1941-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Two: '''1946-47'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Cambodia?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Eritrea is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Italy:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Canada is...&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Missing a piece: '''1948'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Fine: '''1949-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Ethiopia: '''1952-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** The United Arab Republic?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No: '''1954-57'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes: '''1958-60'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''No, I made that one up.'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Istanbul:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Soviet Union exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#west-africa-french-blob]]&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#zaire]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Time]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>1688: Map Age Guide</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: rewording for clarity- &amp;quot;The town on I-25...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1688&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = June 1, 2016&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Map Age Guide&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = map_age_guide.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death? If yes, banshee. If no, seagull.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*A [http://xkcd.com/1688/large/ larger version] of this image can be found by clicking the image at xkcd.com - the comic's page can also be accessed by clicking on the comic number above.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Many is still missing.}}&lt;br /&gt;
Flowchart depicting various ways to tell what era a map is from based on present country borders and land forms. Most of the options are very serious,with a few bizarre options (mistaking a seagull and breadbox for a map) or references to things like the {{w|Discworld}} books and Middle-earth, the setting of the Lord Of the Rings series. He also mentions US President Jimmy Carter being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit, an event previously referenced by [[204]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, (possible) future maps including a &amp;quot;Radioactive Exclusion Zone&amp;quot; in the place of Colorado are mentioned. It predicts that some kind of nuclear incident will occur in Colorado (possibly at Rulison or Rio Blanco nuclear testing sites) in 2022. It also predicts that the area will be infested by radioactive spiders one year later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text continues the path where the user has confused a seagull for a map by inquiring if the (presumed) seagull might be a banshee based on the effect of its screams.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(First Draft, please expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Going through the flowchart, taking the leftmost path first, recursively. See {{w|Depth-first search}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border =1 width=100% cellpadding=5 class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|'''Question''' || '''Explanation''' &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|'''Istanbul or Constantinople'''&lt;br /&gt;
||The largest city in Turkey is famous for having different names at different times or to different people. Variations on both names go back at least 1,000 years. Other names have also been used at various points. İstanbul has been the official name since the 1920's, although Western maps often referred to it as Constantinople as late as the 1960's; on the flowchart, the choice of name appears to go with the 1920's date. The name changes are the subject of a [http://mentalfloss.com/article/60314/original-istanbul-not-constantinople song], originally by the Four Lads, but now mainly known for the They Might Be Giants recording.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Do any of these exist? &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Independent Canada &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; US Territory of Alaska &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Tokyo'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| All these seem to specify a date cut-off of 1867/8, but there are caveats attached to each:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Canada gained its independence gradually, but it would appear as its own country on maps some time between the {{w|Constitution Act, 1867}} (which created Canada as a British dominion) and the {{w|Statute of Westminster 1931}} (which made Canada largely self-governing).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The {{w|Territory of Alaska}} existed between 1912 (previously, it was a US district) and 1959 (when it became a state). The US has owned Alaska since the 1867 {{w|Alaska Purchase}}, but it was not a territory then.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{w|Tokyo}} was once called Edo. It was renamed Tokyo (which means &amp;quot;Eastern Capital&amp;quot;) when it became the capital in 1868. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Tokyo%2CTokei&amp;amp;year_start=1870&amp;amp;year_end=1880&amp;amp;corpus=15&amp;amp;smoothing=3&amp;amp;share=&amp;amp;direct_url=t1%3B%2CTokyo%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CTokei%3B%2Cc0 Most English books around then] would actually have called it &amp;quot;Tokei&amp;quot;, the Chinese reading. The name Tokyo didn't take off until {{w|Hepburn romanization}} was popularized in the 1880s.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The Holy Roman Empire'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The predecessor to modern Germany, the {{w|Holy Roman Empire}} was a union of hundreds of small states in Central Europe. Nationalism and the concept of the {{w|nation state}} hadn't taken off yet, so countries as we know them didn't really exist. There were just small lands, often with keenly contested borders, owned by minor aristocracy who pledged allegiance to one of the big powers. The HRE was dissolved in 1806 after it was invaded by Napoleon, arguably the first leader to realise the potential of making a nation salute a flag.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The United States?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The original 13 colonies declared independence in 1776. A map that does not include ''either'' the HRE ''or'' the USA must be older than the HRE which would put the map some time prior to 1000 AD, when there really were no countries, hence Randall's confusion.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Texas is...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of Mexico?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Independent?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of the US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Mexico occupied the area modern day Texas from around 1718 ([[w:Spanish Texas|when the first permanent Spanish settlements were founded]]) to the {{w|Texas Declaration of Independence}} in 1836 - the land called &amp;quot;Texas&amp;quot; was only a small part of the modern day state. The {{w|Republic of Texas}} only lasted a decade, and joined the US in 1846.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Florida is part of...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Spain?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Spain occupied Florida (as East Florida and West Florida) but frankly they didn't actually want it - it was expensive to send people to settle it, and there wasn't much economic value in it. So they gave it to the US for free in the 1819 {{w|Adams–Onís Treaty}} in exchange for the US giving up parts of Mexico and paying off angry Spanish settlers.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Paraguay?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Declared independence from Spain in 1811 (although it might appear on older maps as the Spanish Province of Paraguay).&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Venezuela and/or Ecuador?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Both declared independence from {{w|Gran Colombia}} (Greater Colombia) in 1830.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?'''&lt;br /&gt;
||Russia currently borders the sea of Japan so the 1867 upper limit is because of Tokyo not existing higher in the chain.  The 1858 limit is to do with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Aigun Treaty of Aigun]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The US's southern border looks... &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Weird &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Normal'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The 1853 cut-off date suggests that this is about the {{w|Gadsden Purchase}}, when the US bought a chunk of what is now Arizona and New Mexico so they could build a railway that avoided unfavourable terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Constantinople / Do any of these exist? / '''Independent Canada - US Territory or Alaska - Tokyo''' No&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Constantinople / Do any of these exist? / No / '''The United States'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Neither / Does the Ottoman Empire exist? /  No / '''The Soviet Union?''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Soviet Union is one of the largest countries ever to exist consisting of Russia and large portions of eastern Europe and central Asia. It was a major political force from 1922, when several allied soviets republics united, to 1991, when it broke up. Its very simple to find on any map that has it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Zaire was one of a series of names for what is today called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In 1996 a (successful) revolt began to oust the reigning government from power. As part of this revolution, the country was renamed. The origonal name change away from 'Congo' was part of an 'Africanisation' naming campaign, although 'Congo' is in origin an authentic African name for the river that set the boundaries of the nation.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Serbia and Montenegro were a remnant of Yugoslavia. Montenegro voted to become its own country in 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
East Timor is a nation north of Australia and south east of Indonesia. During the dutch colonization of Indonesia east Timor remained in Portuguese hands. While occupied and annexed by Indonesia since 1976, east Timor retained its own culture and voted for independence, then had a nasty militia action that required UN peacekeeping action, and finally become independent in 2002.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2011, after a long history of violence between the two portions of the country (which can be characterized as Islamic vs. Christian and Traditional Religions), South Sudan became independent from its northern neighbor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2014, a revolution ousted the current Ukrainian president. The Crimea had its own civil unrest, and Russian troops intervened to restore order. A referendum held during this time has decided in favor of russian annexation. Many nations, including all member states of the EU and the USA, dispute the results of the referendum. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo''' &lt;br /&gt;
The following questions are about physical geography. Many of these features are not generally tracked accurately in maps - many maps still show the Aral Sea, even though it's now mostly evaporated - but are clearly visible in photos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Is there a big lake in Southern California? (Created by Mistake)''' &lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea Salton Sea] A previously dry lakebed accidentally flooded in 1905 while attempting to increase irrigation to the area from the Colorado River&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''How far East do the American Prairies reach?'''&lt;br /&gt;
The Northwest Territory was incorporated in pieces ~1820s, there may be something more relevant to draw the line at Indiana though.  Likely this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_removals_in_Indiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (Created on Purpose)'''&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Volta Lake Volta]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The US's southern border looks'''&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Purchase Gadsden Purchase]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest#Etymology Buda and Pest] were originally two different cities&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Rhodesia?''' The dates down the chain suggest this is about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia_(region) Rhodesia the Region] not [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia Rhodesia the Unrecognized state] nor [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Rhodesia Southern Rhodesia] the British Colony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Cair Paravel?'''&lt;br /&gt;
Cair Paravel is a castle in the Narnia book series where the Kings and Queens of Old reigned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Calormen?'''&lt;br /&gt;
Calormen is yet another area in the Narnia book series, a country southeast of Narnia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Weird Recursive Heaven?'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to the last book in the Narnia series, The Last Battle, where the protagonists find themselves in a &amp;quot;heaven&amp;quot; containing many more of itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Lotta Islands?'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to the Lone Islands, a group of islands of Narnian territory off the country's coast.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Beruna (Ford/Bridge)'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to both The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe and Prince Caspian; in the former book, set centuries before Prince Caspian, there existed a ford named Beruna. In Prince Caspian, centuries had passed after the preceding book, and the ford eventually turned into a bridge to transport foreign troops.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(For the Istanbul branch) '''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is [Hot Springs 1948-49] or [Truth or Consequences 1950-52]'''&lt;br /&gt;
I-25 didn't exist for any of the years listed for this item, since the Interstate Highway System wasn't launched until 1956.  The highway designation during the times listed was US 85.  The town continues to be called &amp;quot;Truth or Consequences&amp;quot;, although locals say that it provides more of the latter than of the former.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Guide to figuring out the age of an undated world map&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Assuming it's complete, labeled in english, and detailed enough)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start:&lt;br /&gt;
* Istanbul or Constantinople?&lt;br /&gt;
** Constantinople:&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;canada-alaska-tokyo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Do any of these exist? Independent Canada; US Territory of Alaska; Tokyo.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Holy Roman Empire?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* 1805 or earlier (before this point, the modern idea of a complete political map of the world gets hard to apply.)&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* The United States?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* How sure are you that this map is in english?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Texas is...&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of Mexico:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Florida is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
************ Spain:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Paraguay?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1806-10'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1811-17'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ The US:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Venezuela and/or ecuador?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1818-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1830-33'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Independent: '''1834-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of the US:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* The US's southern border looks...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Weird: '''1846-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Normal: '''1854-56'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1858-67'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** South Africa?&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Rhodesia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Bolivia landlocked?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Buda and Pest: '''1868-72'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Budapest: '''1873-83'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1884-95'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Norway part of Sweden?&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1896-1905'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1906-09'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Austria-Hungary?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Albania?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1910-12'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1913-18'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Leningrad?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1919-23'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1924-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Neither:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Ottoman Empire exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes: '''[[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Soviet Union?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Saudi Arabia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;west-africa-french-blob&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Is most of West Africa a giant french blob?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;bangladesh&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Bangladesh?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Is the area south of Lake Victoria...&lt;br /&gt;
************** British:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Hot Springs: '''1948-49'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Truth or Consequences: '''1950-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanganyika: '''1961-64'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanzania: '''1965-71'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1972-75'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** How many Vietnams are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#bangladesh]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ One:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Jimmy Carter is...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: '''April 20, 1979'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Fine:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The Sinai is part of what country?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Israel: '''1976-79'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Israel: '''1980'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Egypt: '''1981'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Egypt:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** What's the capital of Micronesia?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Kolonia:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Upper Volta: '''1982-84'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** 1985-88&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Palikir:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* (number of Yemens) + (number of Germanys) = ?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Four: '''1989-early 1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Three: '''mid-1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Two: '''late 1990-1991'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No: '''1922-1932'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* North Korea?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;zaire&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Zaire? or: '''&amp;quot;Hong Kong (UK)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1992-96'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Serbia/Montenegro are...&lt;br /&gt;
************ One country:&lt;br /&gt;
************* East Timor?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1997-2001'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''2002-06'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two countries:&lt;br /&gt;
************* How many Sudans are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************** One: '''2007-11'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Two:&lt;br /&gt;
************** Is Crimea disputed?&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
**************** &amp;quot;Colorado&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Colorado: '''2014-21'''&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Danger:&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Does the warning mention the spiders?&lt;br /&gt;
******************* No: '''2022'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Yes: '''2023 or later'''&lt;br /&gt;
*************** No: '''2012-13'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Saint Trimble's Island&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Is Jan Mayen part of the Kingdom of Norway?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Not yet:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ What?&lt;br /&gt;
************* Can you see the familiar continents?&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo.&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes, that's it&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Is Lake Chad missing?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* How far east do the American Prairies reach?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Indiana: '''before 1830'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** The Mississippi: '''1830s-80s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Nebraska:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Southern California? (created by mistake)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1860s-1900s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1910s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** What prairies?&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (created on purpose)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1920s-50s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1960s-70s'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Is the Aral Sea missing?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''1970s-90s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''2000s+'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Rivers &amp;quot;Sirion&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Anduin&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Mordor?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Beleriand?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''First Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''Early Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Númenor?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''Late Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* The forest east of the Misty Mountains is...&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Greenwood: '''Early Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Mirkwood: '''Late Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** The Wood of Greenleaves: '''Fourth Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Cair Paravel?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Calormen?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Lotta Islands?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Beruna&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Ford: '''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Bridge:&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Prince Caspian'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Weird recursive heaven?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''one of the random later books'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''The Last Battle'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Mossflower?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Redwall&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is the world on the back of a turtle?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Discworld'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Are you ''sure'' this is a map?&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Did you make it yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** It's very nice.&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
************************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Is it trying to bite you?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** Is it larger than a breadbox?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Yes: '''tuba'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** No: '''stapler'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** About the same: '''breadbox'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** If you let it go, what does it do?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Hisses and runs away: '''cat'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: '''seagull'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Pakistan?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** How many Germanys are there?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Persia or Iran?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Persia: '''1930-34'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Iran: '''1935-40'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One, but it's ''huge'': '''1941-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Two: '''1946-47'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Cambodia?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Eritrea is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Italy:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Canada is...&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Missing a piece: '''1948'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Fine: '''1949-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Ethiopia: '''1952-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** The United Arab Republic?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No: '''1954-57'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes: '''1958-60'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''No, I made that one up.'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Istanbul:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Soviet Union exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#west-africa-french-blob]]&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#zaire]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>1688: Map Age Guide</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: One historical factoid about I-25 town of Hot Springs/Truth or Consequences.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1688&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = June 1, 2016&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Map Age Guide&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = map_age_guide.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death? If yes, banshee. If no, seagull.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*A [http://xkcd.com/1688/large/ larger version] of this image can be found by clicking the image at xkcd.com - the comic's page can also be accessed by clicking on the comic number above.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Many is still missing.}}&lt;br /&gt;
Flowchart depicting various ways to tell what era a map is from based on present country borders and land forms. Most of the options are very serious,with a few bizarre options (mistaking a seagull and breadbox for a map) or references to things like the {{w|Discworld}} books and Middle-earth, the setting of the Lord Of the Rings series. He also mentions US President Jimmy Carter being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit, an event previously referenced by [[204]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, (possible) future maps including a &amp;quot;Radioactive Exclusion Zone&amp;quot; in the place of Colorado are mentioned. It predicts that some kind of nuclear incident will occur in Colorado (possibly at Rulison or Rio Blanco nuclear testing sites) in 2022. It also predicts that the area will be infested by radioactive spiders one year later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text continues the path where the user has confused a seagull for a map by inquiring if the (presumed) seagull might be a banshee based on the effect of its screams.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(First Draft, please expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Going through the flowchart, taking the leftmost path first, recursively. See {{w|Depth-first search}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border =1 width=100% cellpadding=5 class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|'''Question''' || '''Explanation''' &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|'''Istanbul or Constantinople'''&lt;br /&gt;
||The largest city in Turkey is famous for having different names at different times or to different people. Variations on both names go back at least 1,000 years. Other names have also been used at various points. İstanbul has been the official name since the 1920's, although Western maps often referred to it as Constantinople as late as the 1960's; on the flowchart, the choice of name appears to go with the 1920's date. The name changes are the subject of a [http://mentalfloss.com/article/60314/original-istanbul-not-constantinople song], originally by the Four Lads, but now mainly known for the They Might Be Giants recording.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Do any of these exist? &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Independent Canada &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; US Territory of Alaska &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Tokyo'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| All these seem to specify a date cut-off of 1867/8, but there are caveats attached to each:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Canada gained its independence gradually, but it would appear as its own country on maps some time between the {{w|Constitution Act, 1867}} (which created Canada as a British dominion) and the {{w|Statute of Westminster 1931}} (which made Canada largely self-governing).&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The {{w|Territory of Alaska}} existed between 1912 (previously, it was a US district) and 1959 (when it became a state). The US has owned Alaska since the 1867 {{w|Alaska Purchase}}, but it was not a territory then.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{w|Tokyo}} was once called Edo. It was renamed Tokyo (which means &amp;quot;Eastern Capital&amp;quot;) when it became the capital in 1868. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Tokyo%2CTokei&amp;amp;year_start=1870&amp;amp;year_end=1880&amp;amp;corpus=15&amp;amp;smoothing=3&amp;amp;share=&amp;amp;direct_url=t1%3B%2CTokyo%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CTokei%3B%2Cc0 Most English books around then] would actually have called it &amp;quot;Tokei&amp;quot;, the Chinese reading. The name Tokyo didn't take off until {{w|Hepburn romanization}} was popularized in the 1880s.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The Holy Roman Empire'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The predecessor to modern Germany, the {{w|Holy Roman Empire}} was a union of hundreds of small states in Central Europe. Nationalism and the concept of the {{w|nation state}} hadn't taken off yet, so countries as we know them didn't really exist. There were just small lands, often with keenly contested borders, owned by minor aristocracy who pledged allegiance to one of the big powers. The HRE was dissolved in 1806 after it was invaded by Napoleon, arguably the first leader to realise the potential of making a nation salute a flag.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The United States?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The original 13 colonies declared independence in 1776. A map that does not include ''either'' the HRE ''or'' the USA must be older than the HRE which would put the map some time prior to 1000 AD, when there really were no countries, hence Randall's confusion.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Texas is...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of Mexico?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Independent?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Part of the US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Mexico occupied the area modern day Texas from around 1718 ([[w:Spanish Texas|when the first permanent Spanish settlements were founded]]) to the {{w|Texas Declaration of Independence}} in 1836 - the land called &amp;quot;Texas&amp;quot; was only a small part of the modern day state. The {{w|Republic of Texas}} only lasted a decade, and joined the US in 1846.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Florida is part of...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Spain?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;The US?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Spain occupied Florida (as East Florida and West Florida) but frankly they didn't actually want it - it was expensive to send people to settle it, and there wasn't much economic value in it. So they gave it to the US for free in the 1819 {{w|Adams–Onís Treaty}} in exchange for the US giving up parts of Mexico and paying off angry Spanish settlers.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Paraguay?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Declared independence from Spain in 1811 (although it might appear on older maps as the Spanish Province of Paraguay).&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Venezuela and/or Ecuador?'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| Both declared independence from {{w|Gran Colombia}} (Greater Colombia) in 1830.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?'''&lt;br /&gt;
||Russia currently borders the sea of Japan so the 1867 upper limit is because of Tokyo not existing higher in the chain.  The 1858 limit is to do with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Aigun Treaty of Aigun]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''The US's southern border looks... &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Weird &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Normal'''&lt;br /&gt;
|| The 1853 cut-off date suggests that this is about the {{w|Gadsden Purchase}}, when the US bought a chunk of what is now Arizona and New Mexico so they could build a railway that avoided unfavourable terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
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Constantinople / Do any of these exist? / '''Independent Canada - US Territory or Alaska - Tokyo''' No&lt;br /&gt;
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Constantinople / Do any of these exist? / No / '''The United States'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Neither / Does the Ottoman Empire exist? /  No / '''The Soviet Union?''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Soviet Union is one of the largest countries ever to exist consisting of Russia and large portions of eastern Europe and central Asia. It was a major political force from 1922, when several allied soviets republics united, to 1991, when it broke up. Its very simple to find on any map that has it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Zaire was one of a series of names for what is today called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In 1996 a (successful) revolt began to oust the reigning government from power. As part of this revolution, the country was renamed. The origonal name change away from 'Congo' was part of an 'Africanisation' naming campaign, although 'Congo' is in origin an authentic African name for the river that set the boundaries of the nation.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Serbia and Montenegro were a remnant of Yugoslavia. Montenegro voted to become its own country in 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
East Timor is a nation north of Australia and south east of Indonesia. During the dutch colonization of Indonesia east Timor remained in Portuguese hands. While occupied and annexed by Indonesia since 1976, east Timor retained its own culture and voted for independence, then had a nasty militia action that required UN peacekeeping action, and finally become independent in 2002.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2011, after a long history of violence between the two portions of the country (which can be characterized as Islamic vs. Christian and Traditional Religions), South Sudan became independent from its northern neighbor.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2014, a revolution ousted the current Ukrainian president. The Crimea had its own civil unrest, and Russian troops intervened to restore order. A referendum held during this time has decided in favor of russian annexation. Many nations, including all member states of the EU and the USA, dispute the results of the referendum. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo''' &lt;br /&gt;
The following questions are about physical geography. Many of these features are not generally tracked accurately in maps - many maps still show the Aral Sea, even though it's now mostly evaporated - but are clearly visible in photos.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Is there a big lake in Southern California? (Created by Mistake)''' &lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea Salton Sea] A previously dry lakebed accidentally flooded in 1905 while attempting to increase irrigation to the area from the Colorado River&lt;br /&gt;
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'''How far East do the American Prairies reach?'''&lt;br /&gt;
The Northwest Territory was incorporated in pieces ~1820s, there may be something more relevant to draw the line at Indiana though.  Likely this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_removals_in_Indiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (Created on Purpose)'''&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Volta Lake Volta]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The US's southern border looks'''&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_Purchase Gadsden Purchase]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest#Etymology Buda and Pest] were originally two different cities&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Rhodesia?''' The dates down the chain suggest this is about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia_(region) Rhodesia the Region] not [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia Rhodesia the Unrecognized state] nor [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Rhodesia Southern Rhodesia] the British Colony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Cair Paravel?'''&lt;br /&gt;
Cair Paravel is a castle in the Narnia book series where the Kings and Queens of Old reigned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Calormen?'''&lt;br /&gt;
Calormen is yet another area in the Narnia book series, a country southeast of Narnia.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Weird Recursive Heaven?'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to the last book in the Narnia series, The Last Battle, where the protagonists find themselves in a &amp;quot;heaven&amp;quot; containing many more of itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Lotta Islands?'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to the Lone Islands, a group of islands of Narnian territory off the country's coast.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Beruna (Ford/Bridge)'''&lt;br /&gt;
This refers to both The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe and Prince Caspian; in the former book, set centuries before Prince Caspian, there existed a ford named Beruna. In Prince Caspian, centuries had passed after the preceding book, and the ford eventually turned into a bridge to transport foreign troops.&lt;br /&gt;
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(For the Istanbul branch) '''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is [Hot Springs 1948-49] or [Truth or Consequences 1950-52]'''&lt;br /&gt;
I-25 didn't exist for either of the date ranges listed, since the Interstate Highway System wasn't launched until 1956.  The highway designation during the times listed was US 85.  The town continues to be called &amp;quot;Truth or Consequences&amp;quot;, although locals say that it provides more of the latter than of the former.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Guide to figuring out the age of an undated world map&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Assuming it's complete, labeled in english, and detailed enough)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start:&lt;br /&gt;
* Istanbul or Constantinople?&lt;br /&gt;
** Constantinople:&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;canada-alaska-tokyo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Do any of these exist? Independent Canada; US Territory of Alaska; Tokyo.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Holy Roman Empire?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* 1805 or earlier (before this point, the modern idea of a complete political map of the world gets hard to apply.)&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* The United States?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* How sure are you that this map is in english?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Texas is...&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of Mexico:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Florida is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
************ Spain:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Paraguay?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1806-10'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1811-17'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ The US:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Venezuela and/or ecuador?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1818-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''1830-33'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Independent: '''1834-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Part of the US:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* The US's southern border looks...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Weird: '''1846-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Normal: '''1854-56'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1858-67'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** South Africa?&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Rhodesia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Bolivia landlocked?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;quot;Buda&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pest&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Budapest&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Buda and Pest: '''1868-72'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Budapest: '''1873-83'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1884-95'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Is Norway part of Sweden?&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1896-1905'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1906-09'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Austria-Hungary?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Albania?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1910-12'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1913-18'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Leningrad?&lt;br /&gt;
********** No: '''1919-23'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1924-29'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Neither:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Ottoman Empire exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes: '''[[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** The Soviet Union?&lt;br /&gt;
****** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******* Saudi Arabia?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;west-africa-french-blob&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Is most of West Africa a giant french blob?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;bangladesh&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Bangladesh?&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Is the area south of Lake Victoria...&lt;br /&gt;
************** British:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Hot Springs: '''1948-49'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Truth or Consequences: '''1950-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanganyika: '''1961-64'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Tanzania: '''1965-71'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes: '''1972-75'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** How many Vietnams are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#bangladesh]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ One:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Jimmy Carter is...&lt;br /&gt;
************** Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: '''April 20, 1979'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Fine:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** The Sinai is part of what country?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Israel: '''1976-79'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Israel: '''1980'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Mostly Egypt: '''1981'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Egypt:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** What's the capital of Micronesia?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Kolonia:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Upper Volta: '''1982-84'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** 1985-88&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Palikir:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* (number of Yemens) + (number of Germanys) = ?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Four: '''1989-early 1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Three: '''mid-1990'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Two: '''late 1990-1991'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No: '''1922-1932'''&lt;br /&gt;
****** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******* North Korea?&lt;br /&gt;
******** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********* &amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;zaire&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Zaire? or: '''&amp;quot;Hong Kong (UK)&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''1992-96'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Serbia/Montenegro are...&lt;br /&gt;
************ One country:&lt;br /&gt;
************* East Timor?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No: '''1997-2001'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes: '''2002-06'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Two countries:&lt;br /&gt;
************* How many Sudans are there?&lt;br /&gt;
************** One: '''2007-11'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Two:&lt;br /&gt;
************** Is Crimea disputed?&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
**************** &amp;quot;Colorado&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Colorado: '''2014-21'''&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Danger:&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Does the warning mention the spiders?&lt;br /&gt;
******************* No: '''2022'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Yes: '''2023 or later'''&lt;br /&gt;
*************** No: '''2012-13'''&lt;br /&gt;
******** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********* Saint Trimble's Island&lt;br /&gt;
********** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********** Is Jan Mayen part of the Kingdom of Norway?&lt;br /&gt;
************ Not yet:&lt;br /&gt;
************* [[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]&lt;br /&gt;
************ What?&lt;br /&gt;
************* Can you see the familiar continents?&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo.&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes, that's it&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Is Lake Chad missing?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* How far east do the American Prairies reach?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Indiana: '''before 1830'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** The Mississippi: '''1830s-80s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Nebraska:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Southern California? (created by mistake)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1860s-1900s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1910s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** What prairies?&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (created on purpose)&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''1920s-50s'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''1960s-70s'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Is the Aral Sea missing?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''1970s-90s'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''2000s+'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Rivers &amp;quot;Sirion&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Anduin&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Mordor?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Beleriand?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''First Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No: '''Early Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Númenor?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes: '''Late Second Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* The forest east of the Misty Mountains is...&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Greenwood: '''Early Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Mirkwood: '''Late Third Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** The Wood of Greenleaves: '''Fourth Age'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Cair Paravel?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Calormen?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Lotta Islands?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Beruna&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Ford: '''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Bridge:&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Prince Caspian'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Weird recursive heaven?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No: '''one of the random later books'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''The Last Battle'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Mossflower?&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Redwall&lt;br /&gt;
******************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
********************* Is the world on the back of a turtle?&lt;br /&gt;
********************** Yes: '''Discworld'''&lt;br /&gt;
********************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*********************** Are you ''sure'' this is a map?&lt;br /&gt;
************************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Did you make it yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** It's very nice.&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
************************ No:&lt;br /&gt;
************************* Is it trying to bite you?&lt;br /&gt;
************************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** Is it larger than a breadbox?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Yes: '''tuba'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** No: '''stapler'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** About the same: '''breadbox'''&lt;br /&gt;
************************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************************** If you let it go, what does it do?&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Hisses and runs away: '''cat'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************************** Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: '''seagull'''&lt;br /&gt;
************ Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
************* Pakistan?&lt;br /&gt;
************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** How many Germanys are there?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Persia or Iran?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Persia: '''1930-34'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Iran: '''1935-40'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** One, but it's ''huge'': '''1941-45'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Two: '''1946-47'''&lt;br /&gt;
************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
*************** Cambodia?&lt;br /&gt;
**************** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** Eritrea is part of...&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Italy:&lt;br /&gt;
******************* Canada is...&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Missing a piece: '''1948'''&lt;br /&gt;
******************** Fine: '''1949-52'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Ethiopia: '''1952-53'''&lt;br /&gt;
**************** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***************** The United Arab Republic?&lt;br /&gt;
****************** No: '''1954-57'''&lt;br /&gt;
****************** Yes: '''1958-60'''&lt;br /&gt;
********** Yes: '''No, I made that one up.'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Istanbul:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the Soviet Union exist?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#west-africa-french-blob]]&lt;br /&gt;
**** No:&lt;br /&gt;
***** [[#zaire]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Maps]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Time]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Are we sure &amp;quot;single-payer&amp;quot; is not a typo, making it &amp;quot;single-player&amp;quot; to fit with &amp;quot;RealPlayer&amp;quot;? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.144|162.158.202.144]] 11:18, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's what I thought as well. [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 11:19, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes it is not a typo as Single-payer refers to Single-payer healthcare as now explained above. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm fairly certain this comic is in reference to the &amp;quot;Fall Out Boy&amp;quot; song, entitled &amp;quot;Champagne For My Real Friends And Real Pain For My Sham Friends&amp;quot;, from their 2005 album &amp;quot;From Under The Cork Tree&amp;quot;; though he could also be referencing Francis Bacon, Tom Waits, the television show Happy Days, the show One Tree Hill, or Spike Lee's &amp;quot;25th Hour&amp;quot;. If you do a Google search for the phrase, it requires some exclusions (like -&amp;quot;fall out boy&amp;quot;) to prevent that song from dominating the first page of results. It's one of their most famous titles.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.48|108.162.216.48]] 12:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Please just include links to these relevant songs etc. in the explanation. And thanks for the comment. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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 :White Hat thus wish that his real friends have access to free health care, and all his single friends will get RealPlayer. Maybe he wishes to impress these singles with a present and hope he gets lucky. (If it has been Hairy this would have seemed very likely… see 1178: Pickup Artists. White Hat has not previously displayed thse tendencies to clearly).&lt;br /&gt;
I doubt this. RealPlayer was a terrible piece of software nobody wanted and was often bundled with spyware (see wikipedia)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well I wrote it and disagree. Since it has been on the market for 10 years, and has just been updated, then it cannot be that terrible, and I cannot find what you say should be on Wikipedia to show that it should be bad still at present. But of course if it has just been upgraded to a new name, then giving the old app is not so hot. Has addressed this in the explanation. Aqlso please feel free to update something you find in error yourself ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: You wrote the source code for RealPlayer or the explantation here? If first you should know why it has such a bad reputation, if second: RealPlayer was some time ago bundled with spyware that sent unique ID's with other userdata to a server, also it had several other problems and is considered by several tech magazines as one of the worst software programs. It might not mention that in the english wikipedia but the german has a section for it. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealPlayer#Kritik To stay on topic: Maybe he wishes his single friends RealPlayer so they need his help to get the malware off their computers and he can impress them? Is way more probable from my experience. [[User:Bobylein|Bobylein]] ([[User talk:Bobylein|talk]]) 12:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And to stay in English for those who are not native Germans... we can also take the English wiki link to the {{w|RealPlayer#Reviews_and_critiques|critique}}! ;-) As I can read from that it was in 1999 and 2007 that it was bad, and as this is now 9 years ago at least, and they keep updating it, the errors may have been improved out? Why would anyone else continue to make it better or using it? But again feel free to update the explanation even more with these kinds of info. I still think it is not so bad to get a free app, unless it is the spy ware version. I expect this doesn't exist anymore, and it is not explicitly stated that he would give them that.--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:53, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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None of these negative interpretations of RealPlayer fit with White Hat's personality.--[[User:Nekoninda|Nekoninda]] 13:34, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the first comic with [[Hair Bun Girl]] since [[User:Jkshapiro|Jkshapiro]] proposed a name change to for instance Hairbun. I take this chance to get more comments on this subject by posting his note, that is now posted on her site:&lt;br /&gt;
 Should [[Hair Bun Girl]] be renamed to Hairbun? [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals#Rename_Hair_Bun_Girl See here]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:04, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As a non-native speaker, when I first read it, I though &amp;quot;petty friends&amp;quot; could mean &amp;quot;pet animals&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;real coats&amp;quot; would then refer to them having real fur as coats - which is often an aspect animal friends don't like on certain rich people (wearing real fur coats), but completely normal for the animals itself.&lt;br /&gt;
Also &amp;quot;Realplayer&amp;quot;, aside from its repuration as not-so-useable software, is used for video streaming, including on porn sites. So (male?) &amp;quot;single friends&amp;quot;, being single, might have to resort using Realplayer/porn to satisfy their needs.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Zefiro|Zefiro]] ([[User talk:Zefiro|talk]]) 13:16, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the second tile, I read it at first to mean that the girl's real friends are pseudopods and that all her human acquaintances are &amp;quot;pseudo-friends&amp;quot;. This would be like a stereotypical &amp;quot;lab nerd&amp;quot;. Doesn't track with any other slide, but I thought it might add to the conversation...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Are we sure &amp;quot;single-payer&amp;quot; is not a typo, making it &amp;quot;single-player&amp;quot; to fit with &amp;quot;RealPlayer&amp;quot;? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.144|162.158.202.144]] 11:18, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's what I thought as well. [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 11:19, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes it is not a typo as Single-payer refers to Single-payer healthcare as now explained above. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm fairly certain this comic is in reference to the &amp;quot;Fall Out Boy&amp;quot; song, entitled &amp;quot;Champagne For My Real Friends And Real Pain For My Sham Friends&amp;quot;, from their 2005 album &amp;quot;From Under The Cork Tree&amp;quot;; though he could also be referencing Francis Bacon, Tom Waits, the television show Happy Days, the show One Tree Hill, or Spike Lee's &amp;quot;25th Hour&amp;quot;. If you do a Google search for the phrase, it requires some exclusions (like -&amp;quot;fall out boy&amp;quot;) to prevent that song from dominating the first page of results. It's one of their most famous titles.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.48|108.162.216.48]] 12:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Please just include links to these relevant songs etc. in the explanation. And thanks for the comment. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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 :White Hat thus wish that his real friends have access to free health care, and all his single friends will get RealPlayer. Maybe he wishes to impress these singles with a present and hope he gets lucky. (If it has been Hairy this would have seemed very likely… see 1178: Pickup Artists. White Hat has not previously displayed thse tendencies to clearly).&lt;br /&gt;
I doubt this. RealPlayer was a terrible piece of software nobody wanted and was often bundled with spyware (see wikipedia)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well I wrote it and disagree. Since it has been on the market for 10 years, and has just been updated, then it cannot be that terrible, and I cannot find what you say should be on Wikipedia to show that it should be bad still at present. But of course if it has just been upgraded to a new name, then giving the old app is not so hot. Has addressed this in the explanation. Aqlso please feel free to update something you find in error yourself ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: You wrote the source code for RealPlayer or the explantation here? If first you should know why it has such a bad reputation, if second: RealPlayer was some time ago bundled with spyware that sent unique ID's with other userdata to a server, also it had several other problems and is considered by several tech magazines as one of the worst software programs. It might not mention that in the english wikipedia but the german has a section for it. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealPlayer#Kritik To stay on topic: Maybe he wishes his single friends RealPlayer so they need his help to get the malware off their computers and he can impress them? Is way more probable from my experience. [[User:Bobylein|Bobylein]] ([[User talk:Bobylein|talk]]) 12:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And to stay in English for those who are not native Germans... we can also take the English wiki link to the {{w|RealPlayer#Reviews_and_critiques|critique}}! ;-) As I can read from that it was in 1999 and 2007 that it was bad, and as this is now 9 years ago at least, and they keep updating it, the errors may have been improved out? Why would anyone else continue to make it better or using it? But again feel free to update the explanation even more with these kinds of info. I still think it is not so bad to get a free app, unless it is the spy ware version. I expect this doesn't exist anymore, and it is not explicitly stated that he would give them that.--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:53, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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None of these negative interpretations of RealPlayer fit with White Hat's personality.--Nekoninda&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the first comic with [[Hair Bun Girl]] since [[User:Jkshapiro|Jkshapiro]] proposed a name change to for instance Hairbun. I take this chance to get more comments on this subject by posting his note, that is now posted on her site:&lt;br /&gt;
 Should [[Hair Bun Girl]] be renamed to Hairbun? [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals#Rename_Hair_Bun_Girl See here]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:04, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As a non-native speaker, when I first read it, I though &amp;quot;petty friends&amp;quot; could mean &amp;quot;pet animals&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;real coats&amp;quot; would then refer to them having real fur as coats - which is often an aspect animal friends don't like on certain rich people (wearing real fur coats), but completely normal for the animals itself.&lt;br /&gt;
Also &amp;quot;Realplayer&amp;quot;, aside from its repuration as not-so-useable software, is used for video streaming, including on porn sites. So (male?) &amp;quot;single friends&amp;quot;, being single, might have to resort using Realplayer/porn to satisfy their needs.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Zefiro|Zefiro]] ([[User talk:Zefiro|talk]]) 13:16, 19 February 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the second tile, I read it at first to mean that the girl's real friends are pseudopods and that all her human acquaintances are &amp;quot;pseudo-friends&amp;quot;. This would be like a stereotypical &amp;quot;lab nerd&amp;quot;. Doesn't track with any other slide, but I thought it might add to the conversation...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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| title     = Toasts&lt;br /&gt;
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| titletext = Platonic solids for my real friends and real solids for my platonic friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
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A {{w|Toast (honor)|toast}} is a ritual in which a drink is taken as an expression of honor or goodwill. The term may be applied to the person or thing so honored, the drink taken, or the verbal expression accompanying the drink. Thus, a person could be &amp;quot;the toast of the evening,&amp;quot; for whom someone &amp;quot;proposes a toast&amp;quot; to congratulate and for whom a third person &amp;quot;toasts&amp;quot; in agreement&lt;br /&gt;
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The comic is based on the quote {{w|Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends}} which, though often attributed to the painter {{w|Francis Bacon (artist)|Francis Bacon}} or to {{w|Tom Waits}}, is a toast dating back to at least the nineteenth century. It is also the entire title of a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7q9i6KYmzQ song], the {{w|From_Under_the_Cork_Tree#Track_listing|ninth track}} on {{w|From  Under the Cork Tree}}, a 2005 album by {{w|Fall Out Boy}}. &lt;br /&gt;
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The comic plays on a permutation structure between two words (a [[wikipedia:Spoonerism|Spoonerism]]), yielding puns with various effects &lt;br /&gt;
In this comic eight persons drink a '''toast''' for their &amp;quot;real friends&amp;quot; and then for some other type of &amp;quot;friends&amp;quot;. For the real friend they wish them to have one specific thing. This something is a word (X-Y) that can be split up in two meanings (X and Y), where one of them are then put in front the word friend, to explain what type of friends they are now toasting (often a bad/false type of friend) and then these friends get a wish for having what the word that are left of the original word means: &amp;quot;X-Y for my real friends and real Y for my X friends&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The first example is a typical toast, in Champagne, where this word can be split in the two phonetically similar words Sham and Pain, and the sham friends then get pain. [[#The toasts|Below]] all examples (including the ninth from the title text) are listed with explanation for all words.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The toasts===&lt;br /&gt;
*''Champagne'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''sham'' and ''pain''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Champagne}} is an expensive sparkling wine.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sham Sham] friends means false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pain}} is not so nice to hand out.&lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Cueball]] toast his real friends in Champagne and wishes real pain to his false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Pseudopods'' can be divided into ''pseudo-'' and ''pods''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudopods}} (which translates to &amp;quot;false feet&amp;quot;) are temporary cytoplasm-filled parts of the cell wall that are able to change their form in order to move. They are used in some eukaryotic cells to move around or to eat. Most cells that do this are called {{w|Amoeba|amoeboids}}. The {{w|Amoeba (genus)|amoeba}} is a common example.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudo-}} (lying, false) is used to mark something that superficially appears to be (or behaves like) one thing, but actually is another.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pods}} or {{w|pod}} is not clearly defined. It could refer to {{w|Glossary_of_plant_morphology#Fruit_types|seedpod}} – a dry dehiscent fruit containing many seeds.  Pods, both malevolent and benignant, appear in many works of SF and Fantasy.  In this toast, it could refer to the pods in {{w|Invasion of the Body Snatchers}}, which take over or replace humans with alien creatures.  It might refer to the dangerous podracers in {{w|Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace}}. It could also refer to the [http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Pod pods] from {{w|The Hunger Games}} where they are specifically used as the city defense in the last book {{w|Mockingjay}}. &lt;br /&gt;
***So the blonde girl will give her real friends a special part/adaptation of the amoeba (Doesn't everyone wish they had pseudopods?  I'm sure Randall does.), while her pseudo-friends receive real pods with intricate ways to kill them.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Petticoats'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''petty'' and ''coats''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Petticoats}} or underskirt is an article of clothing; specifically an undergarment to be worn under a skirt or a dress.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/petty Petty] means small (in rank of importance), insignificant or narrow-minded. See for instance {{w|petty crime}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**A {{w|Coat (clothing)|coat}} is a garment worn by both men and women, for warmth or fashion.  &lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Megan]] will hand out undergarments for her real friends and really nice coats for her less important/insignificant or narrow-minded friends (they seem to be the luckier ones here).&lt;br /&gt;
*''Loosestrife'' can be divided into ''loose'' and ''strife''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Loosestrife}} is a common name for plants within two different genera (which are not related): {{w|Lythrum}}  (example:  {{w|Lythrum salicaria|purple loosestrife}}) and {{w|Lysimachia}} (example:  {{w|Lysimachia ciliata|Fringed Loosestrife}})&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/loose Loose] in this case means free from restraints, as the opposite of {{w|close friend}}. Loose can also refer to being sexually promiscuous, especially when used as an adjective for people. &lt;br /&gt;
**[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/strife Strife] refers to bitter, sometimes violent, conflict or discord.&lt;br /&gt;
***So the &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) will give her real friends flowers and her promiscuous friend she wishes to end up in a real violent conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Ladybugs'' can be divided into ''lady'' and ''bugs''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Ladybugs}} (or Ladybird) is a family of insects common all over the world. They are considered cute: [https://pinterest.com/lisalynnburns/lady-bugs-so-cute/], [http://photobucket.com/images/cute%20ladybug], [http://www.zazzle.com/cute+ladybug].&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Lady}} is a civil term of respect for a woman, specifically the female equivalent to {{w|gentleman}} or {{w|lord}}, but in many contexts a term for any adult woman.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Bugs}} in this case refer to to {{w|insects}} or {{w|arachnids}}&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Hair Bun Girl]] will give ladybugs for her real friends (a cute type of bug that most people are not afraid of), and real bugs (beetles, flies or spiders) to her lady friends. This is not necessarily all her female friends, it could be only those that are {{w|Lady#British_nobility|noble}} or at least think they are more important and thus would like to be called lady. No matter what most ladies dislike most types of animals that are commonly referred to as bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Single-payer'' can be divided into ''single,'' and payer, a word that rhymes with ''player''. In this case this word is then put together with real to form the word ''RealPlayer''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single-payer}} refers to single-payer healthcare, a system in which the state, rather than private insurers, pays for all {{w|healthcare}} costs, a system used in several countries, but not so far in the US, although {{w|Barack Obama}} has gone some of the way with {{w|Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single person|Single}} refers to a person who is not in a relationship or is unmarried.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|RealPlayer}} is a cross-platform media player app, developed by RealNetworks. It is compatible with numerous container file formats of the multimedia realm. In the past it has been {{w|RealPlayer#Reviews_and_critiques|criticized}} for containing adware and spyware. This was back from 1999 and up to the 2004 version.&lt;br /&gt;
**It is specifically not the word ''{{w|Single-player video game|single-player}}'' that is used! this word could refer to video games that only one player can play at a time, or when choosing to play single-player in a game where more could have played. ''RealPayer'' is not a word in use.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[White Hat]] thus wishes that his real friends have access to state-funded health care, and all his single friends will get RealPlayer. Since [[White Hat]] is normally benevolent, if naïve, he may imagine that RealPlayer will help his single friends enjoy Internet media, when they are home alone.  Maybe he wishes to impress these singles with a free app as a present in the hope that he {{w|Get Lucky (Daft Punk song)|gets lucky}}. (If it has been [[Hairy]] this would have seemed very likely… see [[1178: Pickup Artists]]. White Hat has not previously displayed these tendencies too clearly). As mentioned there have been some issues with RealPlayer in the past, but it has stayed on the market for more than a decade. However, since it has {{w|RealPlayer#Current_Status|recently been change}} into ''RealTimes'' it may not be so cool a gift anyway. Also White Hat might wish to give away the old spy ware version of RealPlayer. But as opposed to most of the special friends, single-friends is not in it self negative, especially not if you are yourself single. So no direct reason to make bad wished for single friends as opposed to sham friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Tumbleweeds'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''Tumblr'' and ''weed''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Tumbleweed}} is a structural part of the above-ground anatomy of a number of species of plants, a {{w|Diaspore (botany)|diaspore}} (of seeds) that, once it is mature and dry, detaches from its root or stem, and tumbles away in the wind. The tumbleweed's {{w| Tumbleweed#Symbolism|association}} with the Western film genre has led to a highly symbolic meaning in visual media.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|tumblr}} is a microblogging platform and social networking website&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Weed}} is a plant considered undesirable in a particular situation but in this case it refers to {{w|Cannabis (drug)|Cannabis}} also known as marijuana and many other names including weed and would be used (again in this comic) as a {{w|psychoactive drug}}, i.e. to {{w|getting high|get high}}.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Ponytail]] thus gives her &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; friends a western movie symbol, that will spread seeds over their house, but with her friends on her favorite blogsite Tumblr she will share her expensive weed.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Fauxhawks'' can be divided into ''faux'' and ''hawks''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Mohawk_hairstyle#Fauxhawk_variants |Fauxhawks}} copies the style of a {{w|Mohawk hairstyle}}, but without shaving the sides of the head and not extending past the peak of the cranium.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Faux}} is a French word for &amp;quot;false&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Hawks}} is a common name for some small to medium-sized diurnal birds of prey, widely distributed and varying greatly in size.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Beret Guy]] thus wishes to cut his real friends hair in a very special way, maybe to his liking and thought of as a favor, but not necessarily liked by all his friends, cause although Beret Guy is weird, it seems that those around him are not. His false friends can have a predatory bird (maybe coming after them), but rather knowing Beret Guys love of all things, just as a present of something he likes, like animals.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Title text:'''&lt;br /&gt;
*''Platonic solids'' can be divided into ''platonic'' and ''solids''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Platonic solids}}: In three-dimensional space, a platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron. It is constructed by congruent regular polygonal faces with the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces: Tetrahedron, Cube, Octahedron, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/platonic Platonic] means ''not sexual in nature'' as in {{w|platonic love}}, which is a type of love that is celibate and non-sexual. Typically friends would not be called platonic, but they are normally also not the opposite.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Solid}} is one of the four fundamental states of matter (the others being liquid, gas, and plasma). ''Doing someone a solid'' can also mean ''doing someone a favor''.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Randall]], must be speaking the title text and he wishes his real friends to have material in regular, convex polyhedron shape where as his {{w|platonic friends}} can get any other kind of solid material.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:[There are two rows of 4 panels each. Each panel shows a different person offering a toast. Each one has some kind of drink in one hand which they hold up.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Cueball holding up a wine glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Cueball : Champaign for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[A blonde girl holding up a regular glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Blonde girl: Pseudopods for my real friends and real pods for my pseudo-friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Megan holding up a drinks glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Megan : Petticoats for my real friends and real coats for my petty friends.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[A &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) holding up a normal glass with a small umbrella in it to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Brunette girl: Loosestrife for my real friends and real strife for my loose friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Hair Bun Girl holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Hair Bun Girl: Ladybugs for my real friends and real bugs for my lady friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[White Hat holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:White Hat: Single-payer for my real friends and RealPlayer for my single friends.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Ponytail holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Ponytail: Tumbleweeds for my real friends and real weed for my Tumblr friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Beret Guy holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Beret Guy: Fauxhawks for my real friends and real hawks for my faux friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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| date      = February 19, 2016&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Toasts&lt;br /&gt;
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| titletext = Platonic solids for my real friends and real solids for my platonic friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|There may be more jokes and more on the different words.}}&lt;br /&gt;
A {{w|Toast (honor)|toast}} is a ritual in which a drink is taken as an expression of honor or goodwill. The term may be applied to the person or thing so honored, the drink taken, or the verbal expression accompanying the drink. Thus, a person could be &amp;quot;the toast of the evening,&amp;quot; for whom someone &amp;quot;proposes a toast&amp;quot; to congratulate and for whom a third person &amp;quot;toasts&amp;quot; in agreement&lt;br /&gt;
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The comic is based on the quote {{w|Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends}} which, though often attributed to the painter {{w|Francis Bacon (artist)|Francis Bacon}} or to {{w|Tom Waits}}, is a toast dating back to at least the nineteenth century. It is also the entire title of a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7q9i6KYmzQ song], the {{w|From_Under_the_Cork_Tree#Track_listing|ninth track}} on {{w|From  Under the Cork Tree}}, a 2005 album by {{w|Fall Out Boy}}. &lt;br /&gt;
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The comic plays on a permutation structure between two words (a [[wikipedia:Spoonerism|Spoonerism]]), yielding puns with various effects &lt;br /&gt;
In this comic eight persons drink a '''toast''' for their &amp;quot;real friends&amp;quot; and then for some other type of &amp;quot;friends&amp;quot;. For the real friend they wish them to have one specific thing. This something is a word (X-Y) that can be split up in two meanings (X and Y), where one of them are then put in front the word friend, to explain what type of friends they are now toasting (often a bad/false type of friend) and then these friends get a wish for having what the word that are left of the original word means: &amp;quot;X-Y for my real friends and real Y for my X friends&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The first example is a typical toast, in Champagne, where this word can be split in the two phonetically similar words Sham and Pain, and the sham friends then get pain. [[#The toasts|Below]] all examples (including the ninth from the title text) are listed with explanation for all words.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The toasts===&lt;br /&gt;
*''Champagne'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''sham'' and ''pain''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Champagne}} is an expensive sparkling wine.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sham Sham] friends means false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pain}} is not so nice to hand out.&lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Cueball]] toast his real friends in Champagne and wishes real pain to his false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Pseudopods'' can be divided into ''pseudo-'' and ''pods''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudopods}} (which translates to &amp;quot;false feet&amp;quot;) are temporary cytoplasm-filled parts of the cell wall that are able to change their form in order to move. They are used in some eukaryotic cells to move around or to eat. Most cells that do this are called {{w|Amoeba|amoeboids}}. The {{w|Amoeba (genus)|amoeba}} is a common example.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudo-}} (lying, false) is used to mark something that superficially appears to be (or behaves like) one thing, but actually is another.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pods}} or {{w|pod}} is not clearly defined. It could refer to {{w|Glossary_of_plant_morphology#Fruit_types|seedpod}} – a dry dehiscent fruit containing many seeds.  Pods, both malevolent and benignant, appear in many works of SF and Fantasy.  In this toast, it could refer to the pods in {{w|Invasion of the Body Snatchers}}, which take over or replace humans with alien creatures.  It might refer to the dangerous podracers in {{w|Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace}}. It could also refer to the [http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Pod pods] from {{w|The Hunger Games}} where they are specifically used as the city defense in the last book {{w|Mockingjay}}. &lt;br /&gt;
***So the blonde girl will give her real friends a special part/adaptation of the amoeba (Doesn't everyone wish they had pseudopods?  I'm sure Randall does.), while her pseudo-friends receive real pods with intricate ways to kill them.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Petticoats'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''petty'' and ''coats''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Petticoats}} or underskirt is an article of clothing; specifically an undergarment to be worn under a skirt or a dress.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/petty Petty] means small (in rank of importance), insignificant or narrow-minded. See for instance {{w|petty crime}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**A {{w|Coat (clothing)|coat}} is a garment worn by both men and women, for warmth or fashion.  &lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Megan]] will hand out undergarments for her real friends and really nice coats for her less important/insignificant or narrow-minded friends (they seem to be the luckier ones here).&lt;br /&gt;
*''Loosestrife'' can be divided into ''loose'' and ''strife''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Loosestrife}} is a common name for plants within two different genera (which are not related): {{w|Lythrum}}  (example:  {{w|Lythrum salicaria|purple loosestrife}}) and {{w|Lysimachia}} (example:  {{w|Lysimachia ciliata|Fringed Loosestrife}})&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/loose Loose] in this case means free from restraints, as the opposite of {{w|close friend}}. Loose can also refer to being sexually promiscuous, especially when used as an adjective for people. &lt;br /&gt;
**[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/strife Strife] comes from the name of {{w|Eris (mythology)|Eris}} the Greek goddess of chaos, strife, and discord. It refers to a bitter sometimes violent conflict or discord.&lt;br /&gt;
***So the &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) will give her real friends flowers and her promiscuous friend she wishes to end up in a real violent conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Ladybugs'' can be divided into ''lady'' and ''bugs''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Ladybugs}} (or Ladybird) is a family of insects common all over the world. They are considered cute: [https://pinterest.com/lisalynnburns/lady-bugs-so-cute/], [http://photobucket.com/images/cute%20ladybug], [http://www.zazzle.com/cute+ladybug].&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Lady}} is a civil term of respect for a woman, specifically the female equivalent to {{w|gentleman}} or {{w|lord}}, but in many contexts a term for any adult woman.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Bugs}} in this case refer to to {{w|insects}} or {{w|arachnids}}&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Hair Bun Girl]] will give ladybugs for her real friends (a cute type of bug that most people are not afraid of), and real bugs (beetles, flies or spiders) to her lady friends. This is not necessarily all her female friends, it could be only those that are {{w|Lady#British_nobility|noble}} or at least think they are more important and thus would like to be called lady. No matter what most ladies dislike most types of animals that are commonly referred to as bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Single-payer'' can be divided into ''single,'' and payer, a word that rhymes with ''player''. In this case this word is then put together with real to form the word ''RealPlayer''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single-payer}} refers to single-payer healthcare, a system in which the state, rather than private insurers, pays for all {{w|healthcare}} costs, a system used in several countries, but not so far in the US, although {{w|Barack Obama}} has gone some of the way with {{w|Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single person|Single}} refers to a person who is not in a relationship or is unmarried.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|RealPlayer}} is a cross-platform media player app, developed by RealNetworks. It is compatible with numerous container file formats of the multimedia realm. In the past it has been {{w|RealPlayer#Reviews_and_critiques|criticized}} for containing adware and spyware. This was back from 1999 and up to the 2004 version.&lt;br /&gt;
**It is specifically not the word ''{{w|Single-player video game|single-player}}'' that is used! this word could refer to video games that only one player can play at a time, or when choosing to play single-player in a game where more could have played. ''RealPayer'' is not a word in use.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[White Hat]] thus wish that his real friends have access to state-funded health care, and all his single friends will get RealPlayer. Since White Hat is normally benevolent, if naïve, he may imagine that RealPlayer will help his single friends enjoy Internet media, when they are home alone.  Maybe he wishes to impress these singles with a free app as a present in the hope that he {{w|Get Lucky (Daft Punk song)|gets lucky}}. (If it has been [[Hairy]] this would have seemed very likely… see [[1178: Pickup Artists]]. White Hat has not previously displayed these tendencies too clearly). As mentioned there have been some issues with RealPlayer in the past, but it has stayed on the market for more than a decade. However, since it has {{w|RealPlayer#Current_Status|recently been change}} into ''RealTimes'' it may not be so cool a gift anyway. Also White Hat might wish to give away the old spy ware version of RealPlayer. But as opposed to most of the special friends, single-friends is not in it self negative, especially not if you are yourself single. So no direct reason to make bad wished for single friends as opposed to sham friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Tumbleweeds'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''Tumblr'' and ''weed''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Tumbleweed}} is a structural part of the above-ground anatomy of a number of species of plants, a {{w|Diaspore (botany)|diaspore}} (of seeds) that, once it is mature and dry, detaches from its root or stem, and tumbles away in the wind. The tumbleweed's {{w| Tumbleweed#Symbolism|association}} with the Western film genre has led to a highly symbolic meaning in visual media.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|tumblr}} is a microblogging platform and social networking website&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Weed}} is a plant considered undesirable in a particular situation but in this case it refers to {{w|Cannabis (drug)|Cannabis}} also known as marijuana and many other names including weed and would be used (again in this comic) as a {{w|psychoactive drug}}, i.e. to {{w|getting high|get high}}.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Ponytail]] thus gives her &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; friends a western movie symbol, that will spread seeds over their house, but with her friends on her favorite blogsite Tumblr she will share her expensive weed.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Fauxhawks'' can be divided into ''faux'' and ''hawks''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Mohawk_hairstyle#Fauxhawk_variants |Fauxhawks}} copies the style of a {{w|Mohawk hairstyle}}, but without shaving the sides of the head and not extending past the peak of the cranium.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Faux}} is a French word for &amp;quot;false&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Hawks}} is a common name for some small to medium-sized diurnal birds of prey, widely distributed and varying greatly in size.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Beret Guy]] thus wishes to cut his real friends hair in a very special way, maybe to his liking and thought of as a favor, but not necessarily liked by all his friends, cause although Beret Guy is weird, it seems that those around him are not. His false friends can have a predatory bird (maybe coming after them), but rather knowing Beret Guys love of all things, just as a present of something he likes, like animals.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Title text:'''&lt;br /&gt;
*''Platonic solids'' can be divided into ''platonic'' and ''solids''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Platonic solids}}: In three-dimensional space, a platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron. It is constructed by congruent regular polygonal faces with the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces: Tetrahedron, Cube, Octahedron, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/platonic Platonic] means ''not sexual in nature'' as in {{w|platonic love}}, which is a type of love that is celibate and non-sexual. Typically friends would not be called platonic, but they are normally also not the opposite.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Solid}} is one of the four fundamental states of matter (the others being liquid, gas, and plasma). ''Doing someone a solid'' can also mean ''doing someone a favor''.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Randall]], must be speaking the title text and he wishes his real friends to have material in regular, convex polyhedron shape where as his {{w|platonic friends}} can get any other kind of solid material.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:[There are two rows of 4 panels each. Each panel shows a different person offering a toast. Each one has some kind of drink in one hand which they hold up.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Cueball holding up a wine glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Cueball : Champaign for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[A blonde girl holding up a regular glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Blonde girl: Pseudopods for my real friends and real pods for my pseudo-friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Megan holding up a drinks glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Megan : Petticoats for my real friends and real coats for my petty friends.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[A &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) holding up a normal glass with a small umbrella in it to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Brunette girl: Loosestrife for my real friends and real strife for my loose friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Hair Bun Girl holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Hair Bun Girl: Ladybugs for my real friends and real bugs for my lady friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[White Hat holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:White Hat: Single-payer for my real friends and RealPlayer for my single friends.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Ponytail holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Ponytail: Tumbleweeds for my real friends and real weed for my Tumblr friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Beret Guy holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Beret Guy: Fauxhawks for my real friends and real hawks for my faux friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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| number    = 1645&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = February 19, 2016&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Toasts&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = toasts.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Platonic solids for my real friends and real solids for my platonic friends!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|There may be more jokes and more on the different words.}}&lt;br /&gt;
A {{w|Toast (honor)|toast}} is a ritual in which a drink is taken as an expression of honor or goodwill. The term may be applied to the person or thing so honored, the drink taken, or the verbal expression accompanying the drink. Thus, a person could be &amp;quot;the toast of the evening,&amp;quot; for whom someone &amp;quot;proposes a toast&amp;quot; to congratulate and for whom a third person &amp;quot;toasts&amp;quot; in agreement&lt;br /&gt;
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The comic is based on the quote {{w|Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends}} which, though often attributed to the painter {{w|Francis Bacon (artist)|Francis Bacon}} or to {{w|Tom Waits}}, is a toast dating back to at least the nineteenth century. It is also the entire title of a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7q9i6KYmzQ song], the {{w|From_Under_the_Cork_Tree#Track_listing|ninth track}} on {{w|From  Under the Cork Tree}}, a 2005 album by {{w|Fall Out Boy}}. &lt;br /&gt;
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The comic plays on a permutation structure between two words (a [[wikipedia:Spoonerism|Spoonerism]]), yielding puns with various effects &lt;br /&gt;
In this comic eight persons drink a '''toast''' for their &amp;quot;real friends&amp;quot; and then for some other type of &amp;quot;friends&amp;quot;. For the real friend they wish them to have one specific thing. This something is a word (X-Y) that can be split up in two meanings (X and Y), where one of them are then put in front the word friend, to explain what type of friends they are now toasting (often a bad/false type of friend) and then these friends get a wish for having what the word that are left of the original word means: &amp;quot;X-Y for my real friends and real Y for my X friends&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first example is a typical toast, in Champagne, where this word can be split in the two phonetically similar words Sham and Pain, and the sham friends then get pain. [[#The toasts|Below]] all examples (including the ninth from the title text) are listed with explanation for all words.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The toasts===&lt;br /&gt;
*''Champagne'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''sham'' and ''pain''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Champagne}} is an expensive sparkling wine.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sham Sham] friends means false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pain}} is not so nice to hand out.&lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Cueball]] toast his real friends in Champagne and wishes real pain to his false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Pseudopods'' can be divided into ''pseudo-'' and ''pods''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudopods}} (which translates to &amp;quot;false feet&amp;quot;) are temporary cytoplasm-filled parts of the cell wall that are able to change their form in order to move. They are used in some eukaryotic cells to move around or to eat. Most cells that do this are called {{w|Amoeba|amoeboids}}. The {{w|Amoeba (genus)|amoeba}} is a common example.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudo-}} (lying, false) is used to mark something that superficially appears to be (or behaves like) one thing, but actually is another.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pods}} or {{w|pod}} is not clearly defined. It could refer to {{w|Glossary_of_plant_morphology#Fruit_types|seedpod}} – a dry dehiscent fruit containing many seeds.  Pods, both malevolent and benignant, appear in many works of SF and Fantasy.  In this toast, it could refer to the pods in {{w|Invasion of the Body Snatchers}}, which take over or replace humans with alien creatures.  It might refer to the dangerous podracers in {{w|Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace}}. It could also refer to the [http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Pod pods] from {{w|The Hunger Games}} where they are specifically used as the city defense in the last book {{w|Mockingjay}}. &lt;br /&gt;
***So the blonde girl will give her real friends a special part/adaptation of the amoeba (Doesn't everyone wish they had pseudopods?  I'm sure Randall does.), while her pseudo-friends receive real pods with intricate ways to kill them.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Petticoats'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''petty'' and ''coats''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Petticoats}} or underskirt is an article of clothing; specifically an undergarment to be worn under a skirt or a dress.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/petty Petty] means small (in rank of importance), insignificant or narrow-minded. See for instance {{w|petty crime}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**A {{w|Coat (clothing)|coat}} is a garment worn by both men and women, for warmth or fashion.  &lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Megan]] will hand out undergarments for her real friends and really nice coats for her less important/insignificant or narrow-minded friends (they seem to be the luckier ones here).&lt;br /&gt;
*''Loosestrife'' can be divided into ''loose'' and ''strife''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Loosestrife}} is a common name for plants within two different genera (which are not related): {{w|Lythrum}}  (example:  {{w|Lythrum salicaria|purple loosestrife}}) and {{w|Lysimachia}} (example:  {{w|Lysimachia ciliata|Fringed Loosestrife}})&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/loose Loose] in this case means free from restraints, as the opposite of {{w|close friend}}. Loose can also refer to being sexually promiscuous, especially when used as an adjective for people. &lt;br /&gt;
**[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/strife Strife] comes from the name of {{w|Eris (mythology)|Eris}} the Greek goddess of chaos, strife, and discord. It refers to a bitter sometimes violent conflict or discord.&lt;br /&gt;
***So the &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) will give her real friends flowers and her promiscuous friend she wishes to end up in a real violent conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Ladybugs'' can be divided into ''lady'' and ''bugs''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Ladybugs}} (or Ladybird) is a family of insects common all over the world. They are considered cute: [https://pinterest.com/lisalynnburns/lady-bugs-so-cute/], [http://photobucket.com/images/cute%20ladybug], [http://www.zazzle.com/cute+ladybug].&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Lady}} is a civil term of respect for a woman, specifically the female equivalent to {{w|gentleman}} or {{w|lord}}, but in many contexts a term for any adult woman.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Bugs}} in this case refer to to {{w|insects}} or {{w|arachnids}}&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Hair Bun Girl]] will give ladybugs for her real friends (a cute type of bug that most people are not afraid of), and real bugs (beetles, flies or spiders) to her lady friends. This is not necessarily all her female friends, it could be only those that are {{w|Lady#British_nobility|noble}} or at least think they are more important and thus would like to be called lady. No matter what most ladies dislike most types of animals that are commonly referred to as bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Single-payer'' can be divided into ''single,'' and payer, a word that rhymes with ''player''. In this case this word is then put together with real to form the word ''RealPlayer''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single-payer}} refers to single-payer healthcare, a system in which the state, rather than private insurers, pays for all {{w|healthcare}} costs, a system used in several countries, but not so far in the US, although {{w|Barack Obama}} has gone some of the way with {{w|Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single person|Single}} refers to a person who is not in a relationship or is unmarried.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|RealPlayer}} is a cross-platform media player app, developed by RealNetworks. It is compatible with numerous container file formats of the multimedia realm. In the past it has been {{w|RealPlayer#Reviews_and_critiques|criticized}} for containing adware and spyware. This was back from 1999 and up to the 2004 version.&lt;br /&gt;
**It is specifically not the word ''{{w|Single-player video game|single-player}}'' that is used! this word could refer to video games that only one player can play at a time, or when choosing to play single-player in a game where more could have played. ''RealPayer'' is not a word in use.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[White Hat]] thus wish that his real friends have access to state-funded health care, and all his single friends will get RealPlayer. Maybe he wishes to impress these singles with a free app as a present in the hope that he {{w|Get Lucky (Daft Punk song)|gets lucky}}. (If it has been [[Hairy]] this would have seemed very likely… see [[1178: Pickup Artists]]. White Hat has not previously displayed these tendencies too clearly). As mentioned there have been some issues with RealPlayer in the past, but it has stayed on the market for more than a decade. However, since it has {{w|RealPlayer#Current_Status|recently been change}} into ''RealTimes'' it may not be so cool a gift anyway. Also White Hat might wish to give away the old spy ware version of RealPlayer. But as opposed to most of the special friends, single-friends is not in it self negative, especially not if you are yourself single. So no direct reason to make bad wished for single friends as opposed to sham friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Tumbleweeds'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''Tumblr'' and ''weed''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Tumbleweed}} is a structural part of the above-ground anatomy of a number of species of plants, a {{w|Diaspore (botany)|diaspore}} (of seeds) that, once it is mature and dry, detaches from its root or stem, and tumbles away in the wind. The tumbleweed's {{w| Tumbleweed#Symbolism|association}} with the Western film genre has led to a highly symbolic meaning in visual media.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|tumblr}} is a microblogging platform and social networking website&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Weed}} is a plant considered undesirable in a particular situation but in this case it refers to {{w|Cannabis (drug)|Cannabis}} also known as marijuana and many other names including weed and would be used (again in this comic) as a {{w|psychoactive drug}}, i.e. to {{w|getting high|get high}}.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Ponytail]] thus gives her &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; friends a western movie symbol, that will spread seeds over their house, but with her friends on her favorite blogsite Tumblr she will share her expensive weed.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Fauxhawks'' can be divided into ''faux'' and ''hawks''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Mohawk_hairstyle#Fauxhawk_variants |Fauxhawks}} copies the style of a {{w|Mohawk hairstyle}}, but without shaving the sides of the head and not extending past the peak of the cranium.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Faux}} is a French word for &amp;quot;false&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Hawks}} is a common name for some small to medium-sized diurnal birds of prey, widely distributed and varying greatly in size.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Beret Guy]] thus wishes to cut his real friends hair in a very special way, maybe to his liking and thought of as a favor, but not necessarily liked by all his friends, cause although Beret Guy is weird, it seems that those around him are not. His false friends can have a predatory bird (maybe coming after them), but rather knowing Beret Guys love of all things, just as a present of something he likes, like animals.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Title text:'''&lt;br /&gt;
*''Platonic solids'' can be divided into ''platonic'' and ''solids''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Platonic solids}}: In three-dimensional space, a platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron. It is constructed by congruent regular polygonal faces with the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces: Tetrahedron, Cube, Octahedron, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/platonic Platonic] means ''not sexual in nature'' as in {{w|platonic love}}, which is a type of love that is celibate and non-sexual. Typically friends would not be called platonic, but they are normally also not the opposite.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Solid}} is one of the four fundamental states of matter (the others being liquid, gas, and plasma). ''Doing someone a solid'' can also mean ''doing someone a favor''.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Randall]], must be speaking the title text and he wishes his real friends to have material in regular, convex polyhedron shape where as his {{w|platonic friends}} can get any other kind of solid material.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:[There are two rows of 4 panels each. Each panel shows a different person offering a toast. Each one has some kind of drink in one hand which they hold up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Cueball holding up a wine glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Cueball : Champaign for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[A blonde girl holding up a regular glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Blonde girl: Pseudopods for my real friends and real pods for my pseudo-friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Megan holding up a drinks glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Megan : Petticoats for my real friends and real coats for my petty friends.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[A &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) holding up a normal glass with a small umbrella in it to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Brunette girl: Loosestrife for my real friends and real strife for my loose friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Hair Bun Girl holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Hair Bun Girl: Ladybugs for my real friends and real bugs for my lady friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[White Hat holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:White Hat: Single-payer for my real friends and RealPlayer for my single friends.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Ponytail holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Ponytail: Tumbleweeds for my real friends and real weed for my Tumblr friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Beret Guy holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Beret Guy: Fauxhawks for my real friends and real hawks for my faux friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Megan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Hair Bun Girl]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring White Hat]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Ponytail]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Beret Guy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Language]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]] &amp;lt;!--Ladybug and hawk--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Food]] &amp;lt;!--Drinks--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]] &amp;lt;!--RealPlayer--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Social networking]] &amp;lt;!--Tumblr--&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1645:_Toasts&amp;diff=112853</id>
		<title>1645: Toasts</title>
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| number    = 1645&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = February 19, 2016&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Toasts&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = toasts.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Platonic solids for my real friends and real solids for my platonic friends!&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|There may be more jokes and more on the different words.}}&lt;br /&gt;
A {{w|Toast (honor)|toast}} is a ritual in which a drink is taken as an expression of honor or goodwill. The term may be applied to the person or thing so honored, the drink taken, or the verbal expression accompanying the drink. Thus, a person could be &amp;quot;the toast of the evening,&amp;quot; for whom someone &amp;quot;proposes a toast&amp;quot; to congratulate and for whom a third person &amp;quot;toasts&amp;quot; in agreement&lt;br /&gt;
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The comic is based on the quote {{w|Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends}} which, though often attributed to the painter {{w|Francis Bacon (artist)|Francis Bacon}} or to {{w|Tom Waits}}, is a toast dating back to at least the nineteenth century. It is also the entire title of a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7q9i6KYmzQ song], the {{w|From_Under_the_Cork_Tree#Track_listing|ninth track}} on {{w|From  Under the Cork Tree}}, a 2005 album by {{w|Fall Out Boy}}. &lt;br /&gt;
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The comic plays on a permutation structure between two words (a [[wikipedia:Spoonerism|Spoonerism]]), yielding puns with various effects &lt;br /&gt;
In this comic eight persons drink a '''toast''' for their &amp;quot;real friends&amp;quot; and then for some other type of &amp;quot;friends&amp;quot;. For the real friend they wish them to have one specific thing. This something is a word (X-Y) that can be split up in two meanings (X and Y), where one of them are then put in front the word friend, to explain what type of friends they are now toasting (often a bad/false type of friend) and then these friends get a wish for having what the word that are left of the original word means: &amp;quot;X-Y for my real friends and real Y for my X friends&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The first example is a typical toast, in Champagne, where this word can be split in the two phonetically similar words Sham and Pain, and the sham friends then get pain. [[#The toasts|Below]] all examples (including the ninth from the title text) are listed with explanation for all words.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The toasts===&lt;br /&gt;
*''Champagne'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''sham'' and ''pain''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Champagne}} is an expensive sparkling wine.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sham Sham] friends means false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pain}} is not so nice to hand out.&lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Cueball]] toast his real friends in Champagne and wishes real pain to his false friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Pseudopods'' can be divided into ''pseudo-'' and ''pods''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudopods}} (which translates to &amp;quot;false feet&amp;quot;) are temporary cytoplasm-filled parts of the cell wall that are able to change their form in order to move. They are used in some eukaryotic cells to move around or to eat. Most cells that do this are called {{w|Amoeba|amoeboids}}. The {{w|Amoeba (genus)|amoeba}} is a common example.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pseudo-}} (lying, false) is used to mark something that superficially appears to be (or behaves like) one thing, but actually is another.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Pods}} or {{w|pod}} is not clearly defined. It could refer to {{w|Glossary_of_plant_morphology#Fruit_types|seedpod}} – a dry dehiscent fruit containing many seeds.  Pods, both malevolent and benignant, appear in many works of SF and Fantasy.  In this toast, it could refer to the pods in {{w|Invasion of the Body Snatchers}}, which take over or replace humans with alien creatures.  It might refer to the dangerous podracers in {{w|Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace}}. It could also refer to the [http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Pod pods] from {{w|The Hunger Games}} where they are specifically used as the city defense in the last book {{w|Mockingjay}}. &lt;br /&gt;
***So the blonde girl will give her real friends a special part of amoeba (?) but that is at least better than what her false friend receives – i.e. real pods with intricate ways to kill them.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Petticoats'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''petty'' and ''coats''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Petticoats}} or underskirt is an article of clothing; specifically an undergarment to be worn under a skirt or a dress.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/petty Petty] means small (in rank of importance), insignificant or narrow-minded. See for instance {{w|petty crime}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**A {{w|Coat (clothing)|coat}} is a garment worn by both men and women, for warmth or fashion.  &lt;br /&gt;
***So [[Megan]] will hand out undergarments for her real friends and really nice coats for her less important/insignificant or narrow-minded friends (they seem to be the luckier ones here).&lt;br /&gt;
*''Loosestrife'' can be divided into ''loose'' and ''strife''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Loosestrife}} is a common name for plants within two different genera (which are not related): {{w|Lythrum}}  (example:  {{w|Lythrum salicaria|purple loosestrife}}) and {{w|Lysimachia}} (example:  {{w|Lysimachia ciliata|Fringed Loosestrife}})&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/loose Loose] in this case means free from restraints, as the opposite of {{w|close friend}}. Loose can also refer to being sexually promiscuous, especially when used as an adjective for people. &lt;br /&gt;
**[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/strife Strife] comes from the name of {{w|Eris (mythology)|Eris}} the Greek goddess of chaos, strife, and discord. It refers to a bitter sometimes violent conflict or discord.&lt;br /&gt;
***So the &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) will give her real friends flowers and her promiscuous friend she wishes to end up in a real violent conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Ladybugs'' can be divided into ''lady'' and ''bugs''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Ladybugs}} (or Ladybird) is a family of insects common all over the world. They are considered cute: [https://pinterest.com/lisalynnburns/lady-bugs-so-cute/], [http://photobucket.com/images/cute%20ladybug], [http://www.zazzle.com/cute+ladybug].&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Lady}} is a civil term of respect for a woman, specifically the female equivalent to {{w|gentleman}} or {{w|lord}}, but in many contexts a term for any adult woman.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Bugs}} in this case refer to to {{w|insects}} or {{w|arachnids}}&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Hair Bun Girl]] will give ladybugs for her real friends (a cute type of bug that most people are not afraid of), and real bugs (beetles, flies or spiders) to her lady friends. This is not necessarily all her female friends, it could be only those that are {{w|Lady#British_nobility|noble}} or at least think they are more important and thus would like to be called lady. No matter what most ladies dislike most types of animals that are commonly referred to as bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Single-payer'' can be divided into ''single,'' and payer, a word that rhymes with ''player''. In this case this word is then put together with real to form the word ''RealPlayer''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single-payer}} refers to single-payer healthcare, a system in which the state, rather than private insurers, pays for all {{w|healthcare}} costs, a system used in several countries, but not so far in the US, although {{w|Barack Obama}} has gone some of the way with {{w|Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act}}.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Single person|Single}} refers to a person who is not in a relationship or is unmarried.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|RealPlayer}} is a cross-platform media player app, developed by RealNetworks. It is compatible with numerous container file formats of the multimedia realm. In the past it has been {{w|RealPlayer#Reviews_and_critiques|criticized}} for containing adware and spyware. This was back from 1999 and up to the 2004 version.&lt;br /&gt;
**It is specifically not the word ''{{w|Single-player video game|single-player}}'' that is used! this word could refer to video games that only one player can play at a time, or when choosing to play single-player in a game where more could have played. ''RealPayer'' is not a word in use.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[White Hat]] thus wish that his real friends have access to state-funded health care, and all his single friends will get RealPlayer. Maybe he wishes to impress these singles with a free app as a present in the hope that he {{w|Get Lucky (Daft Punk song)|gets lucky}}. (If it has been [[Hairy]] this would have seemed very likely… see [[1178: Pickup Artists]]. White Hat has not previously displayed these tendencies too clearly). As mentioned there have been some issues with RealPlayer in the past, but it has stayed on the market for more than a decade. However, since it has {{w|RealPlayer#Current_Status|recently been change}} into ''RealTimes'' it may not be so cool a gift anyway. Also White Hat might wish to give away the old spy ware version of RealPlayer. But as opposed to most of the special friends, single-friends is not in it self negative, especially not if you are yourself single. So no direct reason to make bad wished for single friends as opposed to sham friends.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Tumbleweeds'' sounds like a combination of the two words ''Tumblr'' and ''weed''.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Tumbleweed}} is a structural part of the above-ground anatomy of a number of species of plants, a {{w|Diaspore (botany)|diaspore}} (of seeds) that, once it is mature and dry, detaches from its root or stem, and tumbles away in the wind. The tumbleweed's {{w| Tumbleweed#Symbolism|association}} with the Western film genre has led to a highly symbolic meaning in visual media.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|tumblr}} is a microblogging platform and social networking website&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Weed}} is a plant considered undesirable in a particular situation but in this case it refers to {{w|Cannabis (drug)|Cannabis}} also known as marijuana and many other names including weed and would be used (again in this comic) as a {{w|psychoactive drug}}, i.e. to {{w|getting high|get high}}.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Ponytail]] thus gives her &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; friends a western movie symbol, that will spread seeds over their house, but with her friends on her favorite blogsite Tumblr she will share her expensive weed.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Fauxhawks'' can be divided into ''faux'' and ''hawks''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Mohawk_hairstyle#Fauxhawk_variants |Fauxhawks}} copies the style of a {{w|Mohawk hairstyle}}, but without shaving the sides of the head and not extending past the peak of the cranium.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Faux}} is a French word for &amp;quot;false&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Hawks}} is a common name for some small to medium-sized diurnal birds of prey, widely distributed and varying greatly in size.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Beret Guy]] thus wishes to cut his real friends hair in a very special way, maybe to his liking and thought of as a favor, but not necessarily liked by all his friends, cause although Beret Guy is weird, it seems that those around him are not. His false friends can have a predatory bird (maybe coming after them), but rather knowing Beret Guys love of all things, just as a present of something he likes, like animals.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Title text:'''&lt;br /&gt;
*''Platonic solids'' can be divided into ''platonic'' and ''solids''&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Platonic solids}}: In three-dimensional space, a platonic solid is a regular, convex polyhedron. It is constructed by congruent regular polygonal faces with the same number of faces meeting at each vertex. Five solids meet those criteria, and each is named after its number of faces: Tetrahedron, Cube, Octahedron, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron.&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/platonic Platonic] means ''not sexual in nature'' as in {{w|platonic love}}, which is a type of love that is celibate and non-sexual. Typically friends would not be called platonic, but they are normally also not the opposite.&lt;br /&gt;
**{{w|Solid}} is one of the four fundamental states of matter (the others being liquid, gas, and plasma). ''Doing someone a solid'' can also mean ''doing someone a favor''.&lt;br /&gt;
***[[Randall]], must be speaking the title text and he wishes his real friends to have material in regular, convex polyhedron shape where as his {{w|platonic friends}} can get any other kind of solid material.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:[There are two rows of 4 panels each. Each panel shows a different person offering a toast. Each one has some kind of drink in one hand which they hold up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Cueball holding up a wine glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Cueball : Champaign for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[A blonde girl holding up a regular glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Blonde girl: Pseudopods for my real friends and real pods for my pseudo-friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Megan holding up a drinks glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Megan : Petticoats for my real friends and real coats for my petty friends.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[A &amp;quot;brunette&amp;quot; girl (i.e. similar hair but less dark than Megan) holding up a normal glass with a small umbrella in it to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Brunette girl: Loosestrife for my real friends and real strife for my loose friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Hair Bun Girl holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Hair Bun Girl: Ladybugs for my real friends and real bugs for my lady friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[White Hat holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:White Hat: Single-payer for my real friends and RealPlayer for my single friends.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Ponytail holding up a regular glass to the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Ponytail: Tumbleweeds for my real friends and real weed for my Tumblr friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Beret Guy holding up a wine glass to the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Beret Guy: Fauxhawks for my real friends and real hawks for my faux friends!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Megan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Hair Bun Girl]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring White Hat]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Ponytail]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring Beret Guy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Language]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]] &amp;lt;!--Ladybug and hawk--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Food]] &amp;lt;!--Drinks--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]] &amp;lt;!--RealPlayer--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Social networking]] &amp;lt;!--Tumblr--&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1417:_Seven&amp;diff=75267</id>
		<title>1417: Seven</title>
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| number    = 1417&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = September 5, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Seven&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = seven.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = The days of the week are Monday, Arctic, Wellsley, Green, Electra, Synergize, and the Seventh Seal.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
In this comic, [[Cueball]] (or perhaps [[Randall]]) says he can't distinguish between two sets if they both have exactly seven objects. This leads him to exchange the items in the sets without noticing, to the point where, when listing a set, every item truly belongs to a different set.&lt;br /&gt;
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He shows this in the comic when trying to mention the seven dwarfs from ''{{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}} (a task some people might find difficult, but they would not just chose words from other sets of seven to fill in the gaps...) &lt;br /&gt;
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In the title text he also makes it clear that even a simple set of seven like the days of the week also goes completely wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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The comic is a reference to the oldest {{w|Set-theoretic_definition_of_natural_numbers#Oldest_definition|set-theoretic definition of the natural numbers}} in which for each natural number, an equivalence class is defined over all sets which contain the same number of items.  As Cueball is known for mathematical thinking he could be presumed to have taken the underlying equivalence relation to heart, and (over)applying it to real life, genuinely judges sets to be identical if they both contain N objects.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since seven has been considered a holy number, which is also why there ae so many sets of seven to make this comic possible, this is probably the reason why Randall chose that number for the comic. &lt;br /&gt;
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The number seven being the number for when sets become indistinguishable is possibly a reference to {{w|Miller's Law}}, however this refers to elements within the same set becoming indistinguishable, rather than indistinguishability of different sets of the same size.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comic List===&lt;br /&gt;
# Disney's Dwarfs from the movie ''{{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}}''): (1)'''Sneezy''', Dopey, Bashful, Sleepy, Grumpy, Happy and Doc&lt;br /&gt;
# Major {{w|taxonomic ranks}}: Kingdom, (2)'''Phylum''', Class, Order, Family, Genus and Species&lt;br /&gt;
# Continents:  Asia, Africa, (3)'''Europe''', North America, South America, Australia and Antarctica&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven deadly sins|Deadly sins}}: Lust, Gluttony, Greed, (4)'''Sloth''', Wrath, Envy and Pride&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven-layer dip|Seven Layer Dip (recipe)}}: Refried beans, Cheese, Ground beef, Sour cream, (5)'''Guacamole''', Salsa  and Chopped black olives/Chopped tomatoes/Chopped green onions&lt;br /&gt;
# Layers of the {{w|OSI model|Open System Interconnection (OSI) data transmission model}}: Application, Presentation, Session, Transport, Network, (6)'''Data link''' and Physical&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Wonders of the World|Wonders of the Ancient World}}: Great Pyramid of Giza, Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Mausoleum at Halicarnassus, Lighthouse of Alexandria and (7)'''Colossus of Rhodes'''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Title Text List===&lt;br /&gt;
The title text extends this saying he also does the same with the set of the seven days of the week. The sets Cueball's &amp;quot;days of the week&amp;quot; come from are:&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Days of the week}}: '''Monday''', Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven_Seas#Modern|The Seven Seas (modern version)}}: Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, '''Arctic''', Mediterranean, Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico.&lt;br /&gt;
## This could also be a reference to {{w|Climate zones}}: '''Arctic''', North Temperate, Northern Subtropical, Tropical, Southern Subtropical, South Temperate and Antarctic. &lt;br /&gt;
## There are however usually only five mentioned acording to the {{w|Köppen climate classification}}. They are: Tropical, Dry, Temperate, Continental and Polar climate.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven Sisters (colleges)|Seven Sisters}}, historically women's colleges in U.S.: Mount Holyoke, Vassar, '''Wellesley''', Smith,  Radcliffe, Bryn Mawr and Barnard&lt;br /&gt;
# Traditional {{w|spectral color}}s: red, orange, yellow, '''green''', blue, indigo and violet &lt;br /&gt;
## However {{w|Indigo#Classification_as_a_spectral_color|indigo is stuck in}} by {{w|Isaac Newton}} to add up to the seven notes in the {{w|Scale_(music)#Western_music|Western musical scale}}. &lt;br /&gt;
## It should be noted that {{w|Indigo#Classification as a spectral color|Newton probably meant}} the colours {{w|cyan}} and {{w|blue}} as we think of it today, rather than blue and {{w|indigo}}. &lt;br /&gt;
## Also note that in a {{w|rainbow}} you usually {{w|Rainbow#Number_of_colours_in_spectrum_or_rainbow|cannot distinguis more than six colours}} with cyan melting in with green and blue and the same for indigo with blue and violet.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Pleiades (mythology)|Pleiades}}, Seven Sisters, nymphs and daughters of Atlas and Pleone in Greek mythology: '''Electra''', Maia, Taygete, Alcyone, Celaeno, Sterope and Merope&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People}}'' by Dr. Stephen R. Covey:  Be proactive, Begin with the end in mind, Put first things first, Think win-win, Seek first to understand and then to be understood, '''Synergize'''' and Sharpen the saw&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven_Seals|Seals}} in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament: First seal, Second seal, Third seal, Fourth seal, Fifth seal, Sixth seal  and '''Seventh seal'''&lt;br /&gt;
## Although unlikely, ''The Seventh Seal'' could also refer to the 1957 film by Ingmar Bergman.  This was Bergman's seventh film with an English title beginning with the letter ‘S’ (ignoring articles).  ''A Ship Bound for India'', ''Summer Interlude'', ''Secrets of Women'', ''Summer with Monika'', ''Sawdust and Tinsel'', ''Smiles of a Summer Night'', '''''The Seventh Seal'''''.  Similarly, ''The Seventh Seal'' is the seventh Bergman film whose Swedish title starts with ‘S’, although the list has some different members.  ''Skepp till Indialand'', ''Sånt händer inte här'', ''Sommarlek'', ''Sommaren med Monika'', ''Sommarnattens leende'', ''Sista paret ut'', '''''Det sjunde inseglet'''''.  ''The Seventh Seal'' was also one of seven Bergman films submitted by Sweden for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film during the 1950s and 1960s.  '''The Seventh Seal''', ''The Magician'', ''The Virgin Spring'', ''Through a Glass Darkly'', ''The Silence'', ''Persona'', ''Shame''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Transcript=&lt;br /&gt;
: [Megan and Cueball are talking]&lt;br /&gt;
: Megan: Can you name all the dwarves from Snow White?&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball: Sure, there's, um...&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball's thoughts: Sneezy, phylum, Europe, sloth, guacamole, data link, Colossus of Rhodes&lt;br /&gt;
: Caption: I have this problem where all sets of seven things are indistinguishable to me.&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1417:_Seven&amp;diff=75264</id>
		<title>1417: Seven</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1417:_Seven&amp;diff=75264"/>
				<updated>2014-09-05T13:02:25Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1417&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = September 5, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Seven&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = seven.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = The days of the week are Monday, Arctic, Wellsley, Green, Electra, Synergize, and the Seventh Seal.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
In this comic, [[Cueball]] (or perhaps [[Randall]]) says he can't distinguish between two sets if they both have exactly seven objects. This leads him to exchange the items in the sets without noticing, to the point where, when listing a set, every item truly belongs to a different set.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He shows this in the comic when trying to mention the seven dwarfs from ''{{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs(1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}} (a task some people might find difficult, but they would not just chose words from other sets of seven to fill in the gaps...) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the title text he also makes it clear that even a simple set of seven like the days of the week also goes completely wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comic is a reference to the oldest {{w|Set-theoretic_definition_of_natural_numbers#Oldest_definition|set-theoretic definition of the natural numbers}} in which for each natural number, an equivalence class is defined over all sets which contain the same number of items.  As Cueball is known for mathematical thinking he could be presumed to have taken the underlying equivalence relation to heart, and (over)applying it to real life, genuinely judges sets to be identical if they both contain N objects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since seven has been considered a holy number, which is also why there ae so many sets of seven to make this comic possible, this is probably the reason why Randall chose that number for the comic. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The number seven being the number for when sets become indistinguishable is possibly a reference to {{w|Miller's Law}}, however this refers to elements within the same set becoming indistinguishable, rather than indistinguishability of different sets of the same size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Comic List===&lt;br /&gt;
# Disney's Dwarfs from the movie ''{{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs(1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}}''): (1)'''Sneezy''', Dopey, Bashful, Sleepy, Grumpy, Happy and Doc&lt;br /&gt;
# Major {{w|taxonomic ranks}}: Kingdom, (2)'''Phylum''', Class, Order, Family, Genus and Species&lt;br /&gt;
# Continents:  Asia, Africa, (3)'''Europe''', North America, South America, Australia and Antarctica&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven deadly sins|Deadly sins}}: Lust, Gluttony, Greed, (4)'''Sloth''', Wrath, Envy and Pride&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven-layer dip|Seven Layer Dip (recipe)}}: Refried beans, Cheese, Ground beef, Sour cream, (5)'''Guacamole''', Salsa  and Chopped black olives/Chopped tomatoes/Chopped green onions&lt;br /&gt;
# Layers of the {{w|OSI model|Open System Interconnection (OSI) data transmission model}}: Application, Presentation, Session, Transport, Network, (6)'''Data link''' and Physical&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Wonders of the World|Wonders of the Ancient World}}: Great Pyramid of Giza, Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Mausoleum at Halicarnassus, Lighthouse of Alexandria and (7)'''Colossus of Rhodes'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Title Text List===&lt;br /&gt;
The title text extends this saying he also does the same with the set of the seven days of the week. The sets Cueball's &amp;quot;days of the week&amp;quot; come from are:&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Days of the week}}: '''Monday''', Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven_Seas#Modern|The Seven Seas (modern version)}}: Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, '''Arctic''', Mediterranean, Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico.&lt;br /&gt;
## This could also be a reference to {{w|Climate zones}}: '''Arctic''', North Temperate, Northern Subtropical, Tropical, Southern Subtropical, South Temperate and Antarctic. &lt;br /&gt;
## There are however usually only five mentioned acording to the {{w|Köppen climate classification}}. They are: Tropical, Dry, Temperate, Continental and Polar climate.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven Sisters (colleges)|Seven Sisters}}, historically women's colleges in U.S.: Mount Holyoke, Vassar, '''Wellesley''', Smith,  Radcliffe, Bryn Mawr and Barnard&lt;br /&gt;
# Traditional {{w|spectral color}}s: red, orange, yellow, '''green''', blue, indigo and violet &lt;br /&gt;
## However {{w|Indigo#Classification_as_a_spectral_color|indigo is stuck in}} by {{w|Isaac Newton}} to add up to the seven notes in the {{w|Scale_(music)#Western_music|Western musical scale}}. &lt;br /&gt;
## It should be noted that {{w|Indigo#Classification as a spectral color|Newton probably meant}} the colours {{w|cyan}} and {{w|blue}} as we think of it today, rather than blue and {{w|indigo}}. &lt;br /&gt;
## Also note that in a {{w|rainbow}} you usually {{w|Rainbow#Number_of_colours_in_spectrum_or_rainbow|cannot distinguis more than six colours}} with cyan melting in with green and blue and the same for indigo with blue and violet.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Pleiades (mythology)|Pleiades}}, Seven Sisters, nymphs and daughters of Atlas and Pleone in Greek mythology: '''Electra''', Maia, Taygete, Alcyone, Celaeno, Sterope and Merope&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People}}'' by Dr. Stephen R. Covey:  Be proactive, Begin with the end in mind, Put first things first, Think win-win, Seek first to understand and then to be understood, '''Synergize'''' and Sharpen the saw&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven_Seals|Seals}} in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament: First seal, Second seal, Third seal, Fourth seal, Fifth seal, Sixth seal  and '''Seventh seal'''&lt;br /&gt;
## Although unlikely, ''The Seventh Seal'' could also refer to the 1957 film by Ingmar Bergman.  This was Bergman's seventh film with an English title beginning with the letter ‘S’ (ignoring articles).  ''A Ship Bound for India'', ''Summer Interlude'', ''Secrets of Women'', ''Summer with Monika'', ''Sawdust and Tinsel'', ''Smiles of a Summer Night'', '''''The Seventh Seal'''''.  ''The Seventh Seal'' is also the seventh Bergman film whose Swedish title starts with ‘S’, although the list has some different members.  ''Skepp till Indialand'', ''Sånt händer inte här'', ''Sommarlek'', ''Sommaren med Monika'', ''Sommarnattens leende'', ''Sista paret ut'', '''''Det sjunde inseglet'''''.  ''The Seventh Seal'' was also one of seven Bergman films submitted by Sweden for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film during the 1950s and 1960s.  '''''The Seventh Seal''''', ''The Magician'', ''The Virgin Spring'', ''Through a Glass Darkly'', ''The Silence'', ''Persona'', ''Shame''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Transcript=&lt;br /&gt;
: [Megan and Cueball are talking]&lt;br /&gt;
: Megan: Can you name all the dwarves from Snow White?&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball: Sure, there's, um...&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball's thoughts: Sneezy, phylum, Europe, sloth, guacamole, data link, Colossus of Rhodes&lt;br /&gt;
: Caption: I have this problem where all sets of seven things are indistinguishable to me.&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1417:_Seven&amp;diff=75263</id>
		<title>1417: Seven</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1417:_Seven&amp;diff=75263"/>
				<updated>2014-09-05T13:01:01Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1417&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = September 5, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Seven&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = seven.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = The days of the week are Monday, Arctic, Wellsley, Green, Electra, Synergize, and the Seventh Seal.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
In this comic, [[Cueball]] (or perhaps [[Randall]]) says he can't distinguish between two sets if they both have exactly seven objects. This leads him to exchange the items in the sets without noticing, to the point where, when listing a set, every item truly belongs to a different set.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He shows this in the comic when trying to mention the seven dwarfs from ''{{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs(1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}} (a task some people might find difficult, but they would not just chose words from other sets of seven to fill in the gaps...) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the title text he also makes it clear that even a simple set of seven like the days of the week also goes completely wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comic is a reference to the oldest {{w|Set-theoretic_definition_of_natural_numbers#Oldest_definition|set-theoretic definition of the natural numbers}} in which for each natural number, an equivalence class is defined over all sets which contain the same number of items.  As Cueball is known for mathematical thinking he could be presumed to have taken the underlying equivalence relation to heart, and (over)applying it to real life, genuinely judges sets to be identical if they both contain N objects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since seven has been considered a holy number, which is also why there ae so many sets of seven to make this comic possible, this is probably the reason why Randall chose that number for the comic. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The number seven being the number for when sets become indistinguishable is possibly a reference to {{w|Miller's Law}}, however this refers to elements within the same set becoming indistinguishable, rather than indistinguishability of different sets of the same size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Comic List===&lt;br /&gt;
# Disney's Dwarfs from the movie ''{{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs(1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}}''): (1)'''Sneezy''', Dopey, Bashful, Sleepy, Grumpy, Happy and Doc&lt;br /&gt;
# Major {{w|taxonomic ranks}}: Kingdom, (2)'''Phylum''', Class, Order, Family, Genus and Species&lt;br /&gt;
# Continents:  Asia, Africa, (3)'''Europe''', North America, South America, Australia and Antarctica&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven deadly sins|Deadly sins}}: Lust, Gluttony, Greed, (4)'''Sloth''', Wrath, Envy and Pride&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven-layer dip|Seven Layer Dip (recipe)}}: Refried beans, Cheese, Ground beef, Sour cream, (5)'''Guacamole''', Salsa  and Chopped black olives/Chopped tomatoes/Chopped green onions&lt;br /&gt;
# Layers of the {{w|OSI model|Open System Interconnection (OSI) data transmission model}}: Application, Presentation, Session, Transport, Network, (6)'''Data link''' and Physical&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Wonders of the World|Wonders of the Ancient World}}: Great Pyramid of Giza, Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Mausoleum at Halicarnassus, Lighthouse of Alexandria and (7)'''Colossus of Rhodes'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Title Text List===&lt;br /&gt;
The title text extends this saying he also does the same with the set of the seven days of the week. The sets Cueball's &amp;quot;days of the week&amp;quot; come from are:&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Days of the week}}: '''Monday''', Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven_Seas#Modern|The Seven Seas (modern version)}}: Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, '''Arctic''', Mediterranean, Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico.&lt;br /&gt;
## This could also be a reference to {{w|Climate zones}}: '''Arctic''', North Temperate, Northern Subtropical, Tropical, Southern Subtropical, South Temperate and Antarctic. &lt;br /&gt;
## There are however usually only five mentioned acording to the {{w|Köppen climate classification}}. They are: Tropical, Dry, Temperate, Continental and Polar climate.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven Sisters (colleges)|Seven Sisters}}, historically women's colleges in U.S.: Mount Holyoke, Vassar, '''Wellesley''', Smith,  Radcliffe, Bryn Mawr and Barnard&lt;br /&gt;
# Traditional {{w|spectral color}}s: red, orange, yellow, '''green''', blue, indigo and violet &lt;br /&gt;
## However {{w|Indigo#Classification_as_a_spectral_color|indigo is stuck in}} by {{w|Isaac Newton}} to add up to the seven notes in the {{w|Scale_(music)#Western_music|Western musical scale}}. &lt;br /&gt;
## It should be noted that {{w|Indigo#Classification as a spectral color|Newton probably meant}} the colours {{w|cyan}} and {{w|blue}} as we think of it today, rather than blue and {{w|indigo}}. &lt;br /&gt;
## Also note that in a {{w|rainbow}} you usually {{w|Rainbow#Number_of_colours_in_spectrum_or_rainbow|cannot distinguis more than six colours}} with cyan melting in with green and blue and the same for indigo with blue and violet.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Pleiades (mythology)|Pleiades}}, Seven Sisters, nymphs and daughters of Atlas and Pleone in Greek mythology: '''Electra''', Maia, Taygete, Alcyone, Celaeno, Sterope and Merope&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People}}'' by Dr. Stephen R. Covey:  Be proactive, Begin with the end in mind, Put first things first, Think win-win, Seek first to understand and then to be understood, '''Synergize'''' and Sharpen the saw&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven_Seals|Seals}} in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament: First seal, Second seal, Third seal, Fourth seal, Fifth seal, Sixth seal  and '''Seventh seal'''&lt;br /&gt;
## Although unlikely, ''The Seventh Seal'' could also refer to the 1957 film by Ingmar Bergman.  This was Bergman's seventh film with an English title beginning with the letter ‘S’ (ignoring articles).  ''A Ship Bound for India'', ''Summer Interlude'', ''Secrets of Women'', ''Summer with Monika'', ''Sawdust and Tinsel'', ''Smiles of a Summer Night'', '''''The Seventh Seal'''''.  ''The Seventh Seal'' is also the seventh Bergman film whose Swedish title starts with ‘S’, although the list has some different members.  ''Skepp till Indialand'', ''Sånt händer inte här'', ''Sommarlek'', ''Sommaren med Monika'', ''Sommarnattens leende'', ''Sista paret ut'', '''''Det sjunde inseglet'''''.  ''The Seventh Seal'' was also one of seven Bergman films submitted by Sweden for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film during the 1950s and 1960s.  ''The Seventh Seal'', ''The Magician'', ''The Virgin Spring'', ''Through a Glass Darkly'', ''The Silence'', ''Persona'', ''Shame''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Transcript=&lt;br /&gt;
: [Megan and Cueball are talking]&lt;br /&gt;
: Megan: Can you name all the dwarves from Snow White?&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball: Sure, there's, um...&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball's thoughts: Sneezy, phylum, Europe, sloth, guacamole, data link, Colossus of Rhodes&lt;br /&gt;
: Caption: I have this problem where all sets of seven things are indistinguishable to me.&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1417:_Seven&amp;diff=75253</id>
		<title>1417: Seven</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1417:_Seven&amp;diff=75253"/>
				<updated>2014-09-05T12:41:51Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: The Seventh Seal is a significant film by Swedish director Ignmar Bergman.  It is Bergman's seventh film whose title begins with 'S', in both the English and Swedish chronological filmographies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1417&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = September 5, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Seven&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = seven.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = The days of the week are Monday, Arctic, Wellsley, Green, Electra, Synergize, and the Seventh Seal.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
In this comic, Cueball (or perhaps Randall) says he can't distinguish between two sets if they both have exactly seven objects. This leads him to exchange the items in the sets without noticing, to the point where, when listing a set, every item truly belongs to a different set.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comic is a reference to the oldest {{w|Set-theoretic_definition_of_natural_numbers#Oldest_definition|set-theoretic definition of the natural numbers}} in which for each natural number, an equivalence class is defined over all sets which contain the same number of items.  As Cueball is known for mathematical thinking he could be presumed to have taken the underlying equivalence relation to heart, and (over)applying it to real life, genuinely judges sets to be identical if they both contain N objects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The number seven being the number for when sets become indistinguishable is possibly a reference to {{w|Miller's Law}}, however this refers to elements within the same set becoming indistinguishable, rather than indistinguishability of different sets of the same size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Comic List===&lt;br /&gt;
# Disney's Dwarfs from the movie ''{{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs(1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}}'' (1937): '''Sneezy''', Dopey, Bashful, Sleepy, Grumpy, Happy, Doc&lt;br /&gt;
# Major {{w|taxonomic ranks}}: Kingdom, '''Phylum''', Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species&lt;br /&gt;
# Continents:  Asia, Africa, '''Europe''', North America, South America, Australia, Antarctica&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven deadly sins|Deadly sins}}: Lust, Gluttony, Greed, '''Sloth''', Wrath, Envy, Pride&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven-layer dip|Seven Layer Dip (recipe)}}: Refried beans, Cheese, Ground beef, Sour cream, '''Guacamole''', Salsa, Chopped black olives/Chopped tomatoes/Chopped green onions&lt;br /&gt;
# Layers of the {{w|OSI model|Open System Interconnection (OSI) data transmission model}}: Application, Presentation, Session, Transport, Network, '''Data link''', Physical&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Wonders of the World|Wonders of the Ancient World}}: Great Pyramid of Giza, Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, Mausoleum at Halicarnassus, Lighthouse of Alexandria, '''Colossus of Rhodes'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Title Text List===&lt;br /&gt;
The title text extends this saying he also does the same with the set of the seven days of the week. The sets Cueball's &amp;quot;days of the week&amp;quot; come from are:&lt;br /&gt;
# Days of the week: '''Monday''', Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday&lt;br /&gt;
#{{w|Seven_Seas#Modern|The Seven Seas (modern version)}}: Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, '''Arctic''', Mediterranean, Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico.&lt;br /&gt;
## This could also be a reference to {{w|Climate zones}}: '''Arctic''', North Temperate, Northern Subtropical, Tropical, Southern Subtropical, South Temperate and Antarctic. &lt;br /&gt;
##There are however usually only five mentioned acording to the {{w|Köppen climate classification}}. They are: Tropical, Dry, Temperate, Continental and Polar climate.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven Sisters (colleges)|Seven Sisters}}, historically women's colleges in U.S.: Mount Holyoke, Vassar, '''Wellesley''', Smith,  Radcliffe, Bryn Mawr and Barnard&lt;br /&gt;
# Traditional {{w|spectral color}}s: red, orange, yellow, '''green''', blue, indigo and violet (indigo stuck in to add up to seven notes in Western musical scale)&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Pleiades (mythology)|Pleiades}}, Seven Sisters, nymphs and daughters of Atlas and Pleone in Greek mythology: '''Electra''', Maia, Taygete, Alcyone, Celaeno, Sterope and Merope&lt;br /&gt;
# ''{{w|The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People}}'' by Dr. Stephen R. Covey:  Be proactive, Begin with the end in mind, Put first things first, Think win-win, Seek first to understand and then to be understood, '''Synergize'''' and Sharpen the saw&lt;br /&gt;
# {{w|Seven_Seals|Seals}} in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament: First seal, Second seal, Third seal, Fourth seal, Fifth seal, Sixth seal  and '''Seventh seal'''&lt;br /&gt;
## Although unlikely, The Seventh Seal could also refer to the 1957 film by Ingmar Bergman.  This was Bergman's seventh film with an English title beginning with the letter ‘S’ (ignoring articles).  ''A Ship Bound for India'', ''Summer Interlude'', ''Secrets of Women'', ''Summer with Monika'', ''Sawdust and Tinsel'', ''Smiles of a Summer Night'', '''''The Seventh Seal'''''.  ''The Seventh Seal'' is also the seventh Bergman film whose Swedish title starts with ‘S’, although the list has some different members.  ''Skepp till Indialand'', ''Sånt händer inte här'', ''Sommarlek'', ''Sommaren med Monika'', ''Sommarnattens leende'', ''Sista paret ut'', '''''Det sjunde inseglet'''''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Transcript=&lt;br /&gt;
: [Megan and Cueball are talking]&lt;br /&gt;
: Megan: Can you name all the dwarves from Snow White?&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball: Sure, there's, um...&lt;br /&gt;
: Cueball's thoughts: Sneezy, phylum, Europe, sloth, guacamole, data link, Colossus of Rhodes&lt;br /&gt;
: Caption: I have this problem where all sets of seven things are indistinguishable to me.&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1412:_Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles&amp;diff=74269</id>
		<title>1412: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1412:_Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles&amp;diff=74269"/>
				<updated>2014-08-25T16:40:03Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Nekoninda: &amp;quot;lyrics do these songs&amp;quot; corrected to &amp;quot;lyrics to...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1412&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = August 25, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = My upcoming album, 'Linked List', has covers of 'The Purple People Eater', the Ninja Turtles theme, 'Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini', and the Power Rangers theme, with every song played to the tune of the next.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Very early draft.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In reference to the recently released ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' movie, Randall has compiled an alphabetical list of Wikipedia article titles that follow the same syllable-stress pattern as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS-qFdw-v_o the theme song] of the {{w|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series)|1987 cartoon series}}. That pattern appears to be long-short-long-short-long-short-long-short, known in poetry as {{w|trochaic tetrameter}}. Some of the items on this list (e.g. ''{{w|Ace Ventura: Pet Detective}}'') are drawn in the same style as the logo from that series.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these phrases are not actually the titles of Wikipedia articles, but rather the full names given in articles' lede sentences. For instance, the article on Woodrow Wilson &amp;quot;Woody&amp;quot; Guthrie appears under the title &amp;quot;{{w|Woody Guthrie}},&amp;quot; as that is the name by which he is most commonly known, and thus is {{w|Wikipedia:Article_titles#Use_commonly_recognizable_names|preferred by Wikipedia policy}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also [[856: Trochee Fixation]], another comic dealing with a similar concept.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text suggests an album of  songs (&amp;quot;{{w|The Purple People Eater}}&amp;quot;, the aforementioned ''Ninja Turtles'' theme, &amp;quot;{{w|Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini}}&amp;quot;, and the ''{{W|Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers}}'' theme), the title or primary refrain of which are made up entirely of {{w|trochee|trochaic}} {{w|meter (poetry)|meter}}. The the refrains of the songs, respectively are: &amp;quot;One-eyed, one-horned flying purple people eater&amp;quot;; &amp;quot;Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles&amp;quot;; &amp;quot;Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Go go Power Rangers&amp;quot;. The tie to &amp;quot;trochees&amp;quot; seems to be limited to the repeated lines, as the surrounding lines aren't necessarily made up of trochees. Further, it seems to ignore any incidental words between the repeated lines. Randall suggests that the lyrics to these songs might be interchangable to the point that the lyrics of each would be sung to the melody of the song following it in the tracklist. Randall would title the album ''{{w|Linked List}}'' as each song would melodically reference the lyrics of the next song.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
Randall mistyped the word &amp;quot;album&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;alubm&amp;quot; in the title text&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE TITLES&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
With the right syllable stress pattern to be sung to the tune of the original ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' theme song&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Ace Ventura: Pet Detective|''Ace Ventura: Pet Detective''}} [in the style of the logo]&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Biggest Loser: Second Chances|''Biggest Loser: Second Chances''}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Cayman Island blue iguana}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Central Texas pocket gopher}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Church of Jesus Christ Creator}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Climate change and meat production}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon|''Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon''}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Daylight saving time in China}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Denver Airport People Mover}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Easter Island spiny lobster}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Edgar Allan Poe Museum}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Engine failure after take-off}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|English as a second language}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Former Arctic Monkeys members|Former ''Arctic Monkeys'' members}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Fowler's Modern English Usage|''Fowler's Modern English Usage''}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Georgia Game and Fish Department}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Golden-mantled howler monkey}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Greater Cleveland Film Commission}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Hairy flower chafer beetle}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Asian Human Rights Commission}} [in the style of the logo]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|San Diego City Council}} [in the style of the logo]&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Harland David &amp;quot;Colonel&amp;quot; Sanders}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Human Tissue Resource Network}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Klondike-class destroyer tender|''Klondike'' class destroyer tender}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Legal code of North Dakota}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Lesser knapweed flower weevil}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Lockheed Martin Atlas rocket}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Maple syrup urine syndrome}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Mighty Morphin Power Rangers|''Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers''}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Nablus mask-like facial syndrome}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Neo Geo Pocket Color}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|New Year's Eve with Carson Daly|''New Year's Eve with Carson Daly'' }}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Newton's second law of motion}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|North Korean Workers Party}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Orange County Business Council}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Over/under cable coiling}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Places named for Adolf Hitler}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Proton-proton chain reaction}}&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Single payer health insurance}} [in the style of the logo]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Spotted giant flying squirrel}} [in the style of the logo]&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Puerto Rican lizard-cuckoo}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Quantum vacuum plasma thruster|Quantuum vacuum plasma thruster}} [sic]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Rocky Mountain spotted fever}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Royal Flying Doctor Service}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Russian Women's Fascist Movement}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Semi-active laser guidance}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Seven Brides for Seven Brothers|''Seven Brides for Seven Brothers''}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows|''Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows''}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Trailing suction hopper dredger}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Vector graphics markup language}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Viti Levu giant pigeon}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Voting rights in Puerto Rico}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|William Henry, Duke of Gloucester}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Windows Vista startup process}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Woodrow Wilson &amp;quot;Woody&amp;quot; Guthrie}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Yaba monkey tumor virus}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Zack and Miri Make a Porno|''Zack and Miri Make a Porno''}}&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
{{w|Women science fiction authors}} [in the style of the logo]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics with color]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Wikipedia]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1398:_Snake_Facts&amp;diff=72206</id>
		<title>1398: Snake Facts</title>
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				<updated>2014-07-23T22:45:17Z</updated>
		
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&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1398&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = July 23, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Snake Facts&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = snake_facts_new.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Biologically speaking, what we call a 'snake' is actually a human digestive tract which has escaped from its host.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
The comic lists a few '{{w|factoid}}s' about snakes, ranging from the mildly informative to the strictly tongue-in-cheek. The first factoid references the hypothesis that {{w|snake venom}} was an evolutionary development of {{w|saliva}} that, over time, gradually became more toxic as snakes with saliva that was able to assist in subduing their prey possessed an evolutionary advantage.  It then posits that the evolutionary branch that developed into venomous snakes began with a snake whose mutation gave him a mouth that was 'slightly more gross than usual'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The second factoid references the 'longest snake in the world', citing a South American habitat.  Given the habitat listed, it is possible the comic is referring to the Green Anaconda ''({{w|Eunectes murinus}})''. But the Green Anaconda, while an impressive creature and one of the longest snakes in the world (Wikipedia says, &amp;quot;reaching more than 6.6 m (22 ft) long&amp;quot;), is generally not as long as the Reticulated Python ''({{w|Python reticulatus}})'' of Southeast Asia (Wikipedia says they &amp;quot;grow to 6.95 m (22.8 ft)&amp;quot;). The latter is generally recognized as the world's longest snake, though not its largest by mass.  Wikipedia lists numerous reports and measurements of much longer specimens of Anaconda, including the statement, &amp;quot;While in Colombia in 1978, herpetologist William W. Lamar had an encounter with a large female specimen which measured 7.5 m (25 ft) and was estimated to weigh between 136 and 180 kg (300 and 397 lb).&amp;quot;  The article indicates that reports of very large specimens cannot be considered as fully scientifically verified, and part of the humor of these &amp;quot;Snake Facts&amp;quot; is that they fall outside of scientific verification.  The factoid then states that the world's longest snake is 'believed to be over 60 years old'. As Anacondas generally do not live beyond 20 years in captivity, and likely less in the wild, the factoid appears to be in error on this count also. On the other hand, Anacondas are reported to continue growing throughout their lives, so a 60 year old female specimen would likely be the longest snake in the world (females are longer).  Since there are so many exaggerated reports about Anacondas, this may be part of the joke.  Its wording seems intended to imply that the snake in question is not a ''species'', but rather a ''single specimen''. This information may be a parody of factoids, since one would expect to learn about the length of &amp;quot;the world's longest snake&amp;quot;, not its age.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the comic illustration accompanying the second factoid colors in a '{{w|habitat}} range' on a map of South America that is snake-shaped, possibly implying that when it states 'The longest snake is found in {{w|Brazil}}, {{w|Peru}}, and {{w|Chile}}' that this snake is so long that it literally stretches from Brazil, across part of Peru, into Chile, and that the 'habitat' shaded on the map is, in fact, this mammoth snake's {{w|silhouette}}. The Green Anaconda's habitat range includes Colombia, Venezuela, the Guianas, Ecuador, Bolivia, Brazil, Peru, the island of Trinidad, and Paraguay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The final factoid is entirely tongue-in-cheek, beginning with a typical factoid trope in which a collection of related items are laid end-to-end, then the length is compared to something else in a way intended to surprise the reader that the collection of items is indeed, so extensive (literally and figuratively).  For example, &amp;quot;If you laid all the veins and arteries in the human body end-to-end, they would stretch 60,000 miles&amp;quot;.  The third factoid takes the form of that trope and turns it into a joke, &amp;quot;If you laid all the bones in a snake end to end, you would have a snake.&amp;quot;  The resulting length would not be a surprise to anyone, as snake's bodies are long and narrow and thus their bones are roughly arranged 'end to end' already (at least compared to most other creatures).  Obviously, you would not have an entire snake, literally, but you would have a skeleton that was recognizably that of a snake and could reasonably be referred to as 'a snake', albeit a skeletal one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text presents the amusing idea that 'snakes' as we know them are not, in fact, a suborder of reptiles but are instead human {{w|digestive tract}}s that, rather than being a system of organs, are creatures capable of escaping from their 'host' human and living independently.  The idea seems to follow from the superficial resemblance between snakes and the human digestive tract as long, roughly tubular collections of animal matter, which can process the food entering the top end, and getting rid of the waste in the other end.  Actually the human digestive tract is essentially a hole that runs through the body, closed off most of the time only by {{w|sphincter}}s, and digestion thus can be said to take place outside the body.  Nutrients are absorbed across membranes via osmosis, active transport, and diffusion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Correction==&lt;br /&gt;
*Randall had previously posted an incorrect map, that included the snake's habitat in {{w|Bolivia}} instead of Peru. [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/0/0e/snake_facts.png]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Snake Facts:'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Snake venom evolved from saliva, which means it all started with a snake whose mouth was slightly more gross than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake below the text above] &lt;br /&gt;
:Snake: Hi guys!&lt;br /&gt;
:Off-panel voice: Eww, it's Frank.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Map of South America with gray shade in the form of a snake. Text to the left of it] &lt;br /&gt;
:The world's longest snake is found in Brazil, Peru and Chile. It is believed to be over 60 years old. &lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake skeleton between the first and the second of the lines below] &lt;br /&gt;
:If you laid all the bones in a snake end-to-end,&lt;br /&gt;
:you would have a snake&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1398:_Snake_Facts&amp;diff=72205</id>
		<title>1398: Snake Facts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1398:_Snake_Facts&amp;diff=72205"/>
				<updated>2014-07-23T22:42:48Z</updated>
		
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1398&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = July 23, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Snake Facts&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = snake_facts_new.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Biologically speaking, what we call a 'snake' is actually a human digestive tract which has escaped from its host.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
The comic lists a few '{{w|factoid}}s' about snakes, ranging from the mildly informative to the strictly tongue-in-cheek. The first factoid references the hypothesis that {{w|snake venom}} was an evolutionary development of {{w|saliva}} that, over time, gradually became more toxic as snakes with saliva that was able to assist in subduing their prey possessed an evolutionary advantage.  It then posits that the evolutionary branch that developed into venomous snakes began with a snake whose mutation gave him a mouth that was 'slightly more gross than usual'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The second factoid references the 'longest snake in the world', citing a South American habitat.  Given the habitat listed, it is possible the comic is referring to the Green Anaconda ''({{w|Eunectes murinus}})''. But the Green Anaconda, while an impressive creature and one of the longest snakes in the world (Wikipedia says, &amp;quot;reaching more than 6.6 m (22 ft) long&amp;quot;), is generally not as long as the Reticulated Python ''({{w|Python reticulatus}})'' of Southeast Asia (Wikipedia says they &amp;quot;grow to 6.95 m (22.8 ft)&amp;quot;). The latter is generally recognized as the world's longest snake, though not its largest by mass.  Wikipedia lists numerous reports and measurements of much longer specimens of Anaconda, including the statement, &amp;quot;While in Colombia in 1978, herpetologist William W. Lamar had an encounter with a large female specimen which measured 7.5 m (25 ft) and was estimated to weigh between 136 and 180 kg (300 and 397 lb).&amp;quot;  The article indicates that reports of very large specimens cannot be considered as fully scientifically verified, and part of the humor of these &amp;quot;Snake Facts&amp;quot; is that they fall outside of scientific verification.  The factoid then states that the world's longest snake is 'believed to be over 60 years old'. As Anacondas generally do not live beyond 20 years in captivity, and likely less in the wild, the factoid appears to be in error on this count also. On the other hand, Anacondas are reported to continue growing throughout their lives, so a 60 year old female specimen (females are larger) would likely be the largest snake in the world.  Since there are so many exaggerated reports about Anacondas, this may be part of the joke.  Its wording seems intended to imply that the snake in question is not a ''species'', but rather a ''single specimen''. This information may be a parody of factoids, since one would expect to learn about the length of &amp;quot;the world's longest snake&amp;quot;, not its age.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the comic illustration accompanying the second factoid colors in a '{{w|habitat}} range' on a map of South America that is snake-shaped, possibly implying that when it states 'The longest snake is found in {{w|Brazil}}, {{w|Peru}}, and {{w|Chile}}' that this snake is so long that it literally stretches from Brazil, across part of Peru, into Chile, and that the 'habitat' shaded on the map is, in fact, this mammoth snake's {{w|silhouette}}. The Green Anaconda's habitat range includes Colombia, Venezuela, the Guianas, Ecuador, Bolivia, Brazil, Peru, the island of Trinidad, and Paraguay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The final factoid is entirely tongue-in-cheek, beginning with a typical factoid trope in which a collection of related items are laid end-to-end, then the length is compared to something else in a way intended to surprise the reader that the collection of items is indeed, so extensive (literally and figuratively).  For example, &amp;quot;If you laid all the veins and arteries in the human body end-to-end, they would stretch 60,000 miles&amp;quot;.  The third factoid takes the form of that trope and turns it into a joke, &amp;quot;If you laid all the bones in a snake end to end, you would have a snake.&amp;quot;  The resulting length would not be a surprise to anyone, as snake's bodies are long and narrow and thus their bones are roughly arranged 'end to end' already (at least compared to most other creatures).  Obviously, you would not have an entire snake, literally, but you would have a skeleton that was recognizably that of a snake and could reasonably be referred to as 'a snake', albeit a skeletal one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text presents the amusing idea that 'snakes' as we know them are not, in fact, a suborder of reptiles but are instead human {{w|digestive tract}}s that, rather than being a system of organs, are creatures capable of escaping from their 'host' human and living independently.  The idea seems to follow from the superficial resemblance between snakes and the human digestive tract as long, roughly tubular collections of animal matter, which can process the food entering the top end, and getting rid of the waste in the other end.  Actually the human digestive tract is essentially a hole that runs through the body, closed off most of the time only by {{w|sphincter}}s, and digestion thus can be said to take place outside the body.  Nutrients are absorbed across membranes via osmosis, active transport, and diffusion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Correction==&lt;br /&gt;
*Randall had previously posted an incorrect map, that included the snake's habitat in {{w|Bolivia}} instead of Peru. [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/0/0e/snake_facts.png]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Snake Facts:'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Snake venom evolved from saliva, which means it all started with a snake whose mouth was slightly more gross than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake below the text above] &lt;br /&gt;
:Snake: Hi guys!&lt;br /&gt;
:Off-panel voice: Eww, it's Frank.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Map of South America with gray shade in the form of a snake. Text to the left of it] &lt;br /&gt;
:The world's longest snake is found in Brazil, Peru and Chile. It is believed to be over 60 years old. &lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake skeleton between the first and the second of the lines below] &lt;br /&gt;
:If you laid all the bones in a snake end-to-end,&lt;br /&gt;
:you would have a snake&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1398:_Snake_Facts&amp;diff=72204</id>
		<title>1398: Snake Facts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1398:_Snake_Facts&amp;diff=72204"/>
				<updated>2014-07-23T22:35:44Z</updated>
		
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&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1398&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = July 23, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Snake Facts&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = snake_facts_new.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Biologically speaking, what we call a 'snake' is actually a human digestive tract which has escaped from its host.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
The comic lists a few '{{w|factoid}}s' about snakes, ranging from the mildly informative to the strictly tongue-in-cheek. The first factoid references the hypothesis that {{w|snake venom}} was an evolutionary development of {{w|saliva}} that, over time, gradually became more toxic as snakes with saliva that was able to assist in subduing their prey possessed an evolutionary advantage.  It then posits that the evolutionary branch that developed into venomous snakes began with a snake whose mutation gave him a mouth that was 'slightly more gross than usual'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The second factoid references the 'longest snake in the world', citing a South American habitat.  Given the habitat listed, it is possible the comic is referring to the Green Anaconda ''({{w|Eunectes murinus}})''. But the Green Anaconda, while an impressive creature and one of the longest snakes in the world (Wikipedia says, &amp;quot;reaching more than 6.6 m (22 ft) long&amp;quot;), is generally not as long as the Reticulated Python ''({{w|Python reticulatus}})'' of Southeast Asia (Wikipedia says they &amp;quot;grow to 6.95 m (22.8 ft)&amp;quot;). The latter is generally recognized as the world's longest snake, though not its largest by mass.  Wikipedia lists numerous reports and measurements of much longer specimens of Anaconda, including the statement, &amp;quot;While in Colombia in 1978, herpetologist William W. Lamar had an encounter with a large female specimen which measured 7.5 m (25 ft) and was estimated to weigh between 136 and 180 kg (300 and 397 lb).&amp;quot;  The article indicates that reports of very large specimens cannot be considered as fully scientifically verified, and part of the humor of these &amp;quot;Snake Facts&amp;quot; is that they fall outside of scientific verification.  The factoid then states that the world's longest snake is 'believed to be over 60 years old'. As Anacondas generally do not live beyond 20 years in captivity, and likely less in the wild, the factoid appears to be in error on this count also. On the other hand, Anacondas are reported to continue growing throughout their lives, so a 60 year old female specimen (females are larger) would likely be the largest snake in the world.  Since there are so many exaggerated reports about Anacondas, this may be part of the joke.  Its wording seems intended to imply that the snake in question is not a ''species'', but rather a ''single specimen''. This information may be a parody of factoids, since one would expect to learn about the length of &amp;quot;the world's longest snake&amp;quot;, not its age.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the comic illustration accompanying the second factoid colors in a '{{w|habitat}} range' on a map of South America that is snake-shaped, possibly implying that when it states 'The longest snake is found in {{w|Brazil}}, {{w|Peru}}, and {{w|Chile}}' that this snake is so long that it literally stretches from Brazil, across part of Peru, into Chile, and that the 'habitat' shaded on the map is, in fact, this mammoth snake's {{w|silhouette}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The final factoid is entirely tongue-in-cheek, beginning with a typical factoid trope in which a collection of related items are laid end-to-end, then the length is compared to something else in a way intended to surprise the reader that the collection of items is indeed, so extensive (literally and figuratively).  For example, &amp;quot;If you laid all the veins and arteries in the human body end-to-end, they would stretch 60,000 miles&amp;quot;.  The third factoid takes the form of that trope and turns it into a joke, &amp;quot;If you laid all the bones in a snake end to end, you would have a snake.&amp;quot;  The resulting length would not be a surprise to anyone, as snake's bodies are long and narrow and thus their bones are roughly arranged 'end to end' already (at least compared to most other creatures).  Obviously, you would not have an entire snake, literally, but you would have a skeleton that was recognizably that of a snake and could reasonably be referred to as 'a snake', albeit a skeletal one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text presents the amusing idea that 'snakes' as we know them are not, in fact, a suborder of reptiles but are instead human {{w|digestive tract}}s that, rather than being a system of organs, are creatures capable of escaping from their 'host' human and living independently.  The idea seems to follow from the superficial resemblance between snakes and the human digestive tract as long, roughly tubular collections of animal matter, which can process the food entering the top end, and getting rid of the waste in the other end.  Actually the human digestive tract is essentially a hole that runs through the body, closed off most of the time only by {{w|sphincter}}s, and digestion thus can be said to take place outside the body.  Nutrients are absorbed across membranes via osmosis, active transport, and diffusion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Correction==&lt;br /&gt;
*Randall had previously posted an incorrect map, that included the snake's habitat in {{w|Bolivia}} instead of Peru. [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/0/0e/snake_facts.png]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Snake Facts:'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Snake venom evolved from saliva, which means it all started with a snake whose mouth was slightly more gross than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake below the text above] &lt;br /&gt;
:Snake: Hi guys!&lt;br /&gt;
:Off-panel voice: Eww, it's Frank.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Map of South America with gray shade in the form of a snake. Text to the left of it] &lt;br /&gt;
:The world's longest snake is found in Brazil, Peru and Chile. It is believed to be over 60 years old. &lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake skeleton between the first and the second of the lines below] &lt;br /&gt;
:If you laid all the bones in a snake end-to-end,&lt;br /&gt;
:you would have a snake&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>1398: Snake Facts</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 1398&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = July 23, 2014&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Snake Facts&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = snake_facts_new.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Biologically speaking, what we call a 'snake' is actually a human digestive tract which has escaped from its host.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
The comic lists a few '{{w|factoid}}s' about snakes, ranging from the mildly informative to the strictly tongue-in-cheek. The first factoid references the hypothesis that {{w|snake venom}} was an evolutionary development of {{w|saliva}} that, over time, gradually became more toxic as snakes with saliva that was able to assist in subduing their prey possessed an evolutionary advantage.  It then posits that the evolutionary branch that developed into venomous snakes began with a snake whose mutation gave him a mouth that was 'slightly more gross than usual'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The second factoid references the 'longest snake in the world', citing a South American habitat.  Given the habitat listed, it is possible the comic is referring to the Green Anaconda ''({{w|Eunectes murinus}})''. But the Green Anaconda, while an impressive creature and one of the longest snakes in the world (Wikipedia says, &amp;quot;reaching more than 6.6 m (22 ft) long&amp;quot;), is generally not as long as the Reticulated Python ''({{w|Python reticulatus}})'' of Southeast Asia (Wikipedia says &amp;quot;grow to 6.95 m (22.8 ft)&amp;quot;). The latter is generally recognized as the world's longest snake, though not its largest by mass.  Wikipedia lists numerous reports and measurements of much longer specimens of Anaconda, including the statement, &amp;quot;While in Colombia in 1978, herpetologist William W. Lamar had an encounter with a large female specimen which measured 7.5 m (25 ft) and was estimated to weigh between 136 and 180 kg (300 and 397 lb).&amp;quot;  The article indicates that reports of very large specimens cannot be considered as fully scientifically verified, and part of the humor of these &amp;quot;Snake Facts&amp;quot; is that they fall outside of scientific verification.  The factoid then states that the world's longest snake is 'believed to be over 60 years old'. As Anacondas generally do not live beyond 20 years in captivity, and likely less in the wild, the factoid appears to be in error on this count also. On the other hand, Anacondas are reported to continue growing throughout their lives, so a 60 year old female specimen (females are larger) would likely be the largest snake in the world.  Since there are so many exaggerated reports about Anacondas, this may be part of the joke.  Its wording seems intended to imply that the snake in question is not a ''species'', but rather a ''single specimen''. This information may be a parody of factoids, since one would expect to learn about the length of &amp;quot;the world's longest snake&amp;quot;, not its age.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the comic illustration accompanying the second factoid colors in a '{{w|habitat}} range' on a map of South America that is snake-shaped, possibly implying that when it states 'The longest snake is found in {{w|Brazil}}, {{w|Peru}}, and {{w|Chile}}' that this snake is so long that it literally stretches from Brazil, across part of Peru, into Chile, and that the 'habitat' shaded on the map is, in fact, this mammoth snake's {{w|silhouette}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The final factoid is entirely tongue-in-cheek, beginning with a typical factoid trope in which a collection of related items are laid end-to-end, then the length is compared to something else in a way intended to surprise the reader that the collection of items is indeed, so extensive (literally and figuratively).  For example, &amp;quot;If you laid all the veins and arteries in the human body end-to-end, they would stretch 60,000 miles&amp;quot;.  The third factoid takes the form of that trope and turns it into a joke, &amp;quot;If you laid all the bones in a snake end to end, you would have a snake.&amp;quot;  The resulting length would not be a surprise to anyone, as snake's bodies are long and narrow and thus their bones are roughly arranged 'end to end' already (at least compared to most other creatures).  Obviously, you would not have an entire snake, literally, but you would have a skeleton that was recognizably that of a snake and could reasonably be referred to as 'a snake', albeit a skeletal one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text presents the amusing idea that 'snakes' as we know them are not, in fact, a suborder of reptiles but are instead human {{w|digestive tract}}s that, rather than being a system of organs, are creatures capable of escaping from their 'host' human and living independently.  The idea seems to follow from the superficial resemblance between snakes and the human digestive tract as long, roughly tubular collections of animal matter, which can process the food entering the top end, and getting rid of the waste in the other end.  Actually the human digestive tract is essentially a hole that runs through the body, closed off most of the time only by {{w|sphincter}}s, and digestion thus can be said to take place outside the body.  Nutrients are absorbed across membranes via osmosis, active transport, and diffusion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Correction==&lt;br /&gt;
*Randall had previously posted an incorrect map, that included the snake's habitat in {{w|Bolivia}} instead of Peru. [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/0/0e/snake_facts.png]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Snake Facts:'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Snake venom evolved from saliva, which means it all started with a snake whose mouth was slightly more gross than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake below the text above] &lt;br /&gt;
:Snake: Hi guys!&lt;br /&gt;
:Off-panel voice: Eww, it's Frank.&lt;br /&gt;
:[Map of South America with gray shade in the form of a snake. Text to the left of it] &lt;br /&gt;
:The world's longest snake is found in Brazil, Peru and Chile. It is believed to be over 60 years old. &lt;br /&gt;
:[Picture of a snake skeleton between the first and the second of the lines below] &lt;br /&gt;
:If you laid all the bones in a snake end-to-end,&lt;br /&gt;
:you would have a snake&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nekoninda</name></author>	</entry>

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