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803: Airfoil

2013-03-30T05:16:58Z

Nwt: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 803
| date = October 8, 2010
| title = Airfoil
| image = airfoil.png
| titletext = This is a fun explanation to prepare your kids for; it's common and totally wrong. Good lines include "why does the air have to travel on both sides at the same time?" and "I saw the Wright brothers plane and those wings were curved the same on the top and bottom!"
}}

==Explanation==
This comic is about the common teaching that an {{w|airfoil}} works because the air on top of the wing must travel faster to "keep up" with the air flowing across the bottom of the wing. The theory goes that, because the air on top of the wing is traveling faster, it must, as a result of {{w|Bernoulli's Principle}}, create an area of lower pressure above the wing; this causes {{w|lift (force)|lift}} (that is, the wing rises) because the higher pressure below the wing (symbolized thick "up" arrow arrow) pushes it up more than the low pressure above the wing. As it turns, out this is, to put it mildly, a vast oversimplification of how lift is truly created.

In the next panel, a student asks a particularly insightful question: Why, if the theory is true, can planes fly upside down? (If the simple airfoil theory is all that permits planes to stay up in the air, then flying upside down should reverse the pressures--pushing the plane down and causing it to crash.) The teacher thinks about it and clearly has no answer.

The final set of panels posit three potential responses from the teacher, upon realizing her theory has been disproved. In the "right" one, the teacher realizes that perhaps the model she's been using to explain how an airfoil is wrong (or, at a minimum, too simple). She is curious about it and suggests that this is an area for further exploration, and encourages additional study--in effect, rewarding the student for his insight. In the "wrong" panel, the teacher, out of apparent embarrassment, avoids the question entirely, saying simply that it's complicated (and implying that such questions are outside the student's understanding). In the "very wrong" panel, not only does the teacher avoid answering the question, she attempts to distract them (or even punish them for asking such an insightful question) by telling the kids that Santa Claus isn't real and that Santa Claus is really their parents--something that would obviously distress them (in addition to distracting them from the question they've asked) and constitute harsh punishment for pointing out the teacher's ignorance.

The alt-text suggests additional reasons for re-thinking the common theory as to how airfoils create lift. It points out that (1) it is absurd to believe the air has to get across the airfoil's two sides in the same amount of time, and (2) the Wright brothers plane's wings were curved the same amount on both sides of the airfoil, meaning that the distance that the air needs to travel to get across the wing is not the dispositive factor in creating lift.

The strip is correct in noting that lift is a far more complicated process than the simple theory posited by the teacher. While the role of Bernoulli's Principle (that is, the difference in pressures) cannot be entirely discounted, the theory here is vastly too simple. As an initial matter, as suggested by the alt-text, there is no reason that the air on top of the wing should be compelled to "keep up" with the air on the bottom of the wing. Indeed, as demonstrated by the illustration below, in the time that the air below the wing travels across, the air on top of the wing has not only traveled the length of the entire top of the wing (a distance that may be farther than the distance under the wing, due to its shape), but often additional distance.

[[File:Karman_trefftz.gif]]

Lift may be more usefully described as resulting from the deflection of air, although this explanation still does not explain how symmetrical wings will work (at least, absent effects caused by a change in the "angle of attack") nor how a plane may fly upside down. The Wikipedia article on {{w|lift (force)|lift}} provides a more detailed explanation.

==Transcript==
:Handling a student who challenges your expertise with an insightful question:
:[There's a picture of the cross section of an airfoil, with an arrow above and below, pointing from right to left. Layered on top of these arrows, pointing up and down at the cross section, are a larger arrow below and a smaller arrow above.]
:(This panel just contains text, and has a speech curlique hanging towards the person in the next panel.)
:Teacher: So, kids, the air above the wing travels a longer distance, so it has to go faster to keep up. Faster air exerts less pressure, so :the wing is lifted upward.

:Student: But then why can planes fly upside down?

:(The teacher is standing, pondering the question. Three arrows point out of this panel, leading to each of the next three panels which are :arranged vertically.)

:(This is a label at the top of the panel, not a character speaking.)
:Right:
:(This is the character speaking.)
:Teacher: Wow, good question! Maybe this picture is simplified -- or wrong! We should learn more.

:Wrong:
:Teacher: It's... complicated.
:Teacher: And we need to move on.

:Very wrong:
:Teacher: Santa Claus is your parents.

{{comic discussion}}

803: Airfoil

2013-03-30T05:16:19Z

Nwt: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 803
| date = October 8, 2010
| title = Airfoil
| image = airfoil.png
| titletext = This is a fun explanation to prepare your kids for; it's common and totally wrong. Good lines include "why does the air have to travel on both sides at the same time?" and "I saw the Wright brothers plane and those wings were curved the same on the top and bottom!"
}}

==Explanation==
This comic is about the common teaching that an {{w|airfoil}} works because the air on top of the wing must travel faster to "keep up" with the air flowing across the bottom of the wing. The theory goes that, because the air on top of the wing is traveling faster, it must, as a result of {{w|Bernoulli's Principle}}, create an area of lower pressure above the wing; this causes {{w|lift (force)|lift}} (that is, the wing rises) because the higher pressure below the wing (symbolized thick "up" arrow arrow) pushes it up more than the low pressure above the wing. As it turns, out this is, to put it mildly, a vast oversimplification of how lift is truly created.

In the next panel, a student asks a particularly insightful question: Why, if the theory is true, can planes fly upside down? (If the simple airfoil theory is all that permits planes to stay up in the air, then flying upside down should reverse the pressures--pushing the plane down and causing it to crash.) The teacher thinks about it and clearly has no answer.

The final set of panels posit three potential responses from the teacher, upon realizing her theory has been disproved. In the "right" one, the teacher realizes that perhaps the model she's been using to explain how an airfoil is wrong (or, at a minimum, too simple). She is curious about it and suggests that this is an area for further exploration, and encourages additional study--in effect, rewarding the student for his insight. In the "wrong" panel, the teacher, out of apparent embarrassment, avoids the question entirely, saying simply that it's complicated (and implying that such questions are outside the student's understanding). In the "very wrong" panel, not only does the teacher avoid answering the question, she attempts to distract them (or even punish them for asking such an insightful question) by telling the kids that Santa Claus isn't real and that Santa Claus is really their parents--something that would obviously distress them (in addition to distracting them from the question they've asked) and constitute harsh punishment for pointing out the teacher's ignorance.

The alt-text suggests additional reasons for re-thinking the common theory as to how airfoils create lift. It points out that (1) it is absurd to believe the air has to get across the airfoil's two sides in the same amount of time, and (2) the Wright brothers plane's wings were curved the same amount on both sides of the airfoil, meaning that the distance that the air needs to travel to get across the wing is not the dispositive factor in creating lift.

The strip is correct in noting that lift is a far more complicated process than the simple theory posited by the teacher. While the role of Bernoulli's Principle (that is, the difference in pressures) cannot be entirely discounted, the theory here is vastly too simple. As an initial matter, as suggested by the alt-text, there is no reason that the air on top of the wing should be compelled to "keep up" with the air on the bottom of the wing. Indeed, as demonstrated by the illustration below, in the time that the air below the wing travels across, the air on top of the wing has not only traveled the length of the entire top of the wing (a distance that may be farther than the distance under the wing, due to its shape), but often additional distance.

[[File:Karman_trefftz.gif]]

Lift may be more usefully described as resulting from the deflection of air (although this explanation still does not explain how symmetrical wings will work--at least, absent effects caused by a change in the "angle of attack") nor how a plane may fly upside down. The Wikipedia article on {{w|lift (force)|lift}} provides a more detailed explanation.

==Transcript==
:Handling a student who challenges your expertise with an insightful question:
:[There's a picture of the cross section of an airfoil, with an arrow above and below, pointing from right to left. Layered on top of these arrows, pointing up and down at the cross section, are a larger arrow below and a smaller arrow above.]
:(This panel just contains text, and has a speech curlique hanging towards the person in the next panel.)
:Teacher: So, kids, the air above the wing travels a longer distance, so it has to go faster to keep up. Faster air exerts less pressure, so :the wing is lifted upward.

:Student: But then why can planes fly upside down?

:(The teacher is standing, pondering the question. Three arrows point out of this panel, leading to each of the next three panels which are :arranged vertically.)

:(This is a label at the top of the panel, not a character speaking.)
:Right:
:(This is the character speaking.)
:Teacher: Wow, good question! Maybe this picture is simplified -- or wrong! We should learn more.

:Wrong:
:Teacher: It's... complicated.
:Teacher: And we need to move on.

:Very wrong:
:Teacher: Santa Claus is your parents.

{{comic discussion}}

803: Airfoil

2013-03-30T05:15:24Z

Nwt: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 803
| date = October 8, 2010
| title = Airfoil
| image = airfoil.png
| titletext = This is a fun explanation to prepare your kids for; it's common and totally wrong. Good lines include "why does the air have to travel on both sides at the same time?" and "I saw the Wright brothers plane and those wings were curved the same on the top and bottom!"
}}

==Explanation==
This comic is about the common teaching that an {{w|airfoil}} works because the air on top of the wing must travel faster to "keep up" with the air flowing across the bottom of the wing. The theory goes that, because the air on top of the wing is traveling faster, it must, as a result of {{w|Bernoulli's Principle}}, create an area of lower pressure above the wing; this causes {{w|lift (force)|lift}} (that is, the wing rises) because the higher pressure below the wing (symbolized thick "up" arrow arrow) pushes it up more than the low pressure above the wing. As it turns, out this is, to put it mildly, a vast oversimplification of how lift is truly created.

In the next panel, a student asks a particularly insightful question: Why, if the theory is true, can planes fly upside down? (If the simple airfoil theory is all that permits planes to stay up in the air, then flying upside down should reverse the pressures--pushing the plane down and causing it to crash.) The teacher thinks about it and clearly has no answer.

The final set of panels posit three potential responses from the teacher, upon realizing her theory has been disproved. In the "right" one, the teacher realizes that perhaps the model she's been using to explain how an airfoil is wrong (or, at a minimum, too simple). She is curious about it and suggests that this is an area for further exploration, and encourages additional study--in effect, rewarding the student for his insight. In the "wrong" panel, the teacher, out of apparent embarrassment, avoids the question entirely, saying simply that it's complicated (and implying that such questions are outside the student's understanding). In the "very wrong" panel, not only does the teacher avoid answering the question, she attempts to distract them (or even punish them for asking such an insightful question) by telling the kids that Santa Claus isn't real and that Santa Claus is really their parents--something that would obviously distress them (in addition to distracting them from the question they've asked) and constitute harsh punishment for pointing out the teacher's ignorance.

The alt-text suggests additional reasons for re-thinking the common theory as to how airfoils create lift. It points out that (1) it is absurd to believe the air has to get across the airfoil's two sides in the same amount of time, and (2) the Wright brothers plane's wings were curved the same amount on both sides of the airfoil, meaning that the distance that the air needs to travel to get across the wing is not the dispositive factor in creating lift.

The strip is correct in noting that lift is a far more complicated process than the simple theory posited by the teacher. While the role of Bernoulli's Principle (that is, the difference in pressures) cannot be entirely discounted, the theory here is vastly too simple. As an initial matter, as suggested by the alt-text, there is no reason that the air on top of the wing should be compelled to "keep up" with the air on the bottom of the wing. Indeed, as demonstrated by the illustration below, in the time that the air below the wing travels across, the air on top of the wing has not only traveled the same entire additional length of the wing, but often some additional distance.

[[File:Karman_trefftz.gif]]

Lift may be more usefully described as resulting from the deflection of air (although this explanation still does not explain how symmetrical wings will work--at least, absent effects caused by a change in the "angle of attack") nor how a plane may fly upside down. The Wikipedia article on {{w|lift (force)|lift}} provides a more detailed explanation.

==Transcript==
:Handling a student who challenges your expertise with an insightful question:
:[There's a picture of the cross section of an airfoil, with an arrow above and below, pointing from right to left. Layered on top of these arrows, pointing up and down at the cross section, are a larger arrow below and a smaller arrow above.]
:(This panel just contains text, and has a speech curlique hanging towards the person in the next panel.)
:Teacher: So, kids, the air above the wing travels a longer distance, so it has to go faster to keep up. Faster air exerts less pressure, so :the wing is lifted upward.

:Student: But then why can planes fly upside down?

:(The teacher is standing, pondering the question. Three arrows point out of this panel, leading to each of the next three panels which are :arranged vertically.)

:(This is a label at the top of the panel, not a character speaking.)
:Right:
:(This is the character speaking.)
:Teacher: Wow, good question! Maybe this picture is simplified -- or wrong! We should learn more.

:Wrong:
:Teacher: It's... complicated.
:Teacher: And we need to move on.

:Very wrong:
:Teacher: Santa Claus is your parents.

{{comic discussion}}

803: Airfoil

2013-03-30T05:13:57Z

Nwt: /* Explanation */

{{comic
| number = 803
| date = October 8, 2010
| title = Airfoil
| image = airfoil.png
| titletext = This is a fun explanation to prepare your kids for; it's common and totally wrong. Good lines include "why does the air have to travel on both sides at the same time?" and "I saw the Wright brothers plane and those wings were curved the same on the top and bottom!"
}}

==Explanation==
This comic is about the common teaching that an {{w|airfoil}} works because the air on top of the wing must travel faster to "keep up" with the air flowing across the bottom of the wing. The theory goes that, because the air on top of the wing is traveling faster, it must, as a result of {{w|Bernoulli's Principle}}, create an area of lower pressure above the wing; this causes {{w|lift (force)|lift}} (that is, the wing rises) because the higher pressure below the wing (symbolized thick "up" arrow arrow) pushes it up more than the low pressure above the wing. As it turns, out this is, to put it mildly, a vast oversimplification of how lift is truly created.

In the next panel, a student asks a particularly insightful question: Why, if the theory is true, can planes fly upside down? (If the simple airfoil theory is all that permits planes to stay up in the air, then flying upside down should reverse the pressures--pushing the plane down and causing it to crash.) The teacher thinks about it and clearly has no answer.

The final set of panels posit three potential responses from the teacher, upon realizing her theory has been disproved. In the "right" one, the teacher realizes that perhaps the model she's been using to explain how an airfoil is wrong (or, at a minimum, too simple). She is curious about it and suggests that this is an area for further exploration, and encourages additional study--in effect, rewarding the student for his insight. In the "wrong" panel, the teacher, out of apparent embarrassment, avoids the question entirely, saying simply that it's complicated (and implying that such questions are outside the student's understanding). In the "very wrong" panel, not only does the teacher avoid answering the question, she attempts to distract them (or even punish them for asking such an insightful question) by telling the kids that Santa Claus isn't real and that Santa Claus is really their parents--something that would obviously distress them (in addition to distracting them from the question they've asked) and constitute harsh punishment for pointing out the teacher's ignorance.

The alt-text suggests additional reasons for re-thinking the common theory as to how airfoils create lift. It points out that (1) it is absurd to believe the air has to get across the airfoil's two sides in the same amount of time, and (2) the Wright brothers plane's wings were curved the same amount on both sides of the airfoil, meaning that the distance that the air needs to travel to get across the wing is not the dispositive factor in creating lift.

The strip is correct in noting that lift is a far more complicated process than the simple theory posited by the teacher. While the role of Bernoulli's Principle (that is, the difference in pressures) cannot be entirely discounted, the theory here is vastly too simple. As an initial matter, as suggested by the alt-text, there is no reason that the air on top of the wing should be compelled to "keep up" with the air on the bottom of the wing. Indeed, as demonstrated by the illustration below, in the time that the air below the wing travels across, the air on top of the wing has not only traveled the same entire additional length of the wing, but often some additional distance.

[[File|Karman_trefftz.gif]]

Lift may be more usefully described as resulting from the deflection of air (although this explanation still does not explain how symmetrical wings will work--at least, absent effects caused by a change in the "angle of attack") nor how a plane may fly upside down. The Wikipedia article on {{w|lift (force)|lift}} provides a more detailed explanation.

==Transcript==
:Handling a student who challenges your expertise with an insightful question:
:[There's a picture of the cross section of an airfoil, with an arrow above and below, pointing from right to left. Layered on top of these arrows, pointing up and down at the cross section, are a larger arrow below and a smaller arrow above.]
:(This panel just contains text, and has a speech curlique hanging towards the person in the next panel.)
:Teacher: So, kids, the air above the wing travels a longer distance, so it has to go faster to keep up. Faster air exerts less pressure, so :the wing is lifted upward.

:Student: But then why can planes fly upside down?

:(The teacher is standing, pondering the question. Three arrows point out of this panel, leading to each of the next three panels which are :arranged vertically.)

:(This is a label at the top of the panel, not a character speaking.)
:Right:
:(This is the character speaking.)
:Teacher: Wow, good question! Maybe this picture is simplified -- or wrong! We should learn more.

:Wrong:
:Teacher: It's... complicated.
:Teacher: And we need to move on.

:Very wrong:
:Teacher: Santa Claus is your parents.

{{comic discussion}}

File:Karman trefftz.gif

2013-03-30T05:11:24Z

Nwt: English: Flow around an airfoil. The dots move with the flow. Note that the velocities are much higher at the upper surface than at the lower surface, and that black dots on a timeline below the airfoil do not catch up with those above. The airfoil is ...

English: Flow around an airfoil. The dots move with the flow. Note that the velocities are much higher at the upper surface than at the lower surface, and that black dots on a timeline below the airfoil do not catch up with those above. The airfoil is a Kármán–Trefftz airfoil, with parameters μx = –0.08, μy = +0.08 and n = 1.94. While the angle of attack is 8°. The flow is a potential flow.

This file taken from Wikimedia Commons. Originally produced by Kraaiennest - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Kraaiennest.