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{{comic<br />
| number = 1311<br />
| date = January 1, 2014<br />
| title = 2014<br />
| before = [[#Explanation|↓ Skip to explanation ↓]]<br />
| image = 2014.png<br />
| titletext = Some future reader, who may see the term, without knowing the history of it, may imagine that it had reference to some antiquated bridge of the immortal Poet, thrown across the silver Avon, to facilitate his escape after some marauding excursion in a neighbouring park; and in some Gentleman's Magazine of the next century, it is not impossible, but that future antiquaries may occupy page after page in discussing so interesting a matter. We think it right, therefore, to put it on record in the Oriental Herald that the 'Shakesperian Rope Bridges' are of much less classic origin; that Mr Colin Shakespear, who, besides his dignity as Postmaster, now signs himself 'Superintendent General of Shakesperian Rope Bridges', is a person of much less genius than the Bard of Avon. --The Oriental Herald, 1825<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
This [[:Category:New Year|New Year comic]] is to commemorate the {{w|New Year}} by giving us a view of the coming year (2014) from the past. The comic includes many quotes from the 1800s and early 1900s that speak to a time close to 2014. Many of them are for the twenty-first century in general, and only three mention a year that would be 2014 exactly. All but one of them is a prediction, yet some of these are quotes from fictional literature, and therefore are not true predictions. Words are in boldface to highlight the relevant content in the quote. The grey or non-bold text is non-essential to the point Randall is interested in, and only to be used to understand the context of the quote.<br />
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The title text refers to a certain British officer, Mr. Colin Shakespeare, who experimented with and [http://books.google.com/books?id=aZRPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA367 promoted the use of rope suspension bridges in India.] The reference to "The Bard of Avon" is a reference to {{w|William Shakespeare|Shakespeare (the playwright)}}, as {{w|River Avon (Warwickshire)|Avon}} is the river on which {{w|Stratford upon Avon}} is set, and is where the playwright was born and spent his youth. The author of this quote under the guise of eliminating the potential confusion that might result after decades or centuries have washed away the context, ironically and possibly vindictively, makes a point to note that the bridge is not named after the playwright, but Mr. Colin Shakespeare, whom he considers considerably less intelligent. This topic was previously covered in [[771: Period Speech]]. <br />
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Two years before, another New Years comic with just the new years number as the title was released: [[998: 2012]]. But actually the content of this comic is more related to the comic coming out just before the 2012 comic: [[997: Wait Wait]], which is also a New Year comic, that took a look at what could happen in 2012, just as this one does for 2014... In 2016 another comic, with only the new year as the name theme, occurred again [[1624: 2016]]. For some reason this only seemed to happen in the even years, until [[1779: 2017]] was released, with [[1935: 2018]] being the next one.<br />
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The style of the comic is very similar to that of [[1227: The Pace of Modern Life]], which was released half a year earlier.<br />
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===Additional information===<br />
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{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Quote<br />
! Author or publisher<br />
! Year<br />
! Years realized<br />
! Description<br />
|-<br />
| "It's desirable '''every thing printed should be preserved,''' for we '''cannot now tell how useful it may become''' two centuries hence." <br />
| Christopher Baldwin<br />
| 1834<br />
| Not a prediction<br />
| A good idea. Now, with services like the Internet Archive, this can be done in an easier manner. Unfortunately, many books that were printed between the mid-19th century and the widespread usage of acid-free wood-pulp paper starting from the early 1990s are either no longer known to exist, are heavily damaged (mostly through deterioration — see {{w|slow fire}}) or are very scarce.<br />
|-<br />
| "I predict that a century hence the '''Canadian people''' will be '''the noblest specimens of humanity on the face of the earth'''"<br />
| Rev John Bredin<br />
| 1863<br />
| Subjective<br />
| Calling the citizens of any nation "the noblest" is difficult to quantify. Canada, in general, has a reputation as a safe, healthy and polite society, but, like any nation, they have both positive and negative qualities. The rest of the quote goes as follows: ''"all that was good in the Celt, the Saxon, the Gaul and other races, combining to form neither English, Irish, nor Welsh, but Canadians, who would take their place among the churches of Christendom and the nations of the earth."'' This religious prediction probably wasn't believed even by its author. It's only a harangue.<br />
|-<br />
| "In the twenty-first century '''mankind will subsist entirely upon jellies.'''"<br />
| The Book Lover<br />
| 1903<br />
| Not yet, but we still have time to do so<br />
| Concentrates, which are gelatin-like, form a large part of our food sources. Absurd if taken literally, because it would be nigh impossible to rely on only concentrates for nutrients,{{Citation needed}} but if he's talking about processed foods in general then he's not too far off the mark.<br />
|-<br />
| "The twenty-first century baby is destined to be rocked and cradled by electricity, warmed and coddled by electricity, perhaps fathered and mothered by electricity. '''Probably the only thing he will be left to do unaided will be to make love.'''"<br />
| Mrs John Lane, The Fortnightly<br />
| 1905<br />
| 1960s–1980s<br />
| The parameters of this prediction are fairly ambiguous. Certainly, electricity impacts nearly every aspect of modern life, from the time most children are born. While child-rearing is very much a human activity (and parents today arguably spend more time and effort on children than in past eras), electrically powered aids are everywhere. Children are indeed "rocked and cradled" in automatic swings, and "warmed and coddled" by means of electric heaters and incubators (in medical cases). In fact, most aspects of child-rearing can be aided by some electronic gadget or other. As of 2020, no children have been born without biological mothers and fathers, but the process of ''in vitro'' fertilization, in which conception is mediated by technology, has been in use since 1978. As for making love unaided, Mrs. Lane may have underestimated the implications of technology, as there are now a wide range of devices and aides, electronic and otherwise, which are designed to assist in sexual gratification, both with and without partners. <br />
|-<br />
| "To-day, in the city of New York, sixty-six different tongues are spoken. '''A century hence, there will probably be only one.'''"<br />
| The American Historical Magazine<br />
| 1907<br />
| Not realized<br />
| The number of languages spoken in New York City is believed to be greater than 100; some estimate as many as 800 languages are spoken there. The U.S. Census Bureau reports that in the greater New York metropolitan area, almost 7 million people speak a language other than English at home, including over 3.5 million who speak Spanish, 2 million who speak other Indo-European languages, 1 million who speak Asian or Pacific Island languages, and 300,000 who speak other languages. Also, New York City is the location of the headquarters of the United Nations, with diplomats from nearly every country in the world, and several official languages.<br />
|-<br />
| "I often think '''what interesting history we are making for the student of the twenty-first century.'''"<br />
| William Carey Jones<br />
| 1908<br />
| 1900's–present<br />
| Referring to the events that led to {{w|World War I}}. In 1908, {{w|Bosnian crisis|Austria-Hungary annexed Bosnia and Herzegovina}}. This led to the {{w|Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria|Sarajevo Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria}} in 1914 that is considered the starting event of the World War.<br />
|-<br />
| "China may be a '''great shoe market''' a decade or a century from now."<br />
| Boot and Shoe Recorder<br />
| 1914<br />
| 1970's–present<br />
| The publication in question appears only interested in footwear, while, in fact, China has become one of the world's largest economies, making it a huge consumer and producer of a full array of products. The range of "a decade or a century from now" makes for a pretty vague prediction. China didn't really qualify as a "great market" for western goods until trade barriers were removed in the 1970's. This was well over a decade from the prediction, but well under a century.<br />
|-<br />
| "'''We cannot settle the problem,''' and I venture the prophecy that perhaps '''a century from now this same question may be brought before some future society and discussed very much as it is tonight.'''<br />
| Dr. Barton C. Hirst (on abortion)<br />
| 1914<br />
| 1914–present<br />
| Abortion is still heavily debated. Various societies have different levels of legal regulation, social stigma, and assumed moral implications, and even within societies there is often not a clear consensus. While laws have changed heavily over the last century, and attitudes have very likely shifted, the debate has certainly not ended, and arguably hasn't substantially changed. <br />
|-<br />
| "By the twenty-first century '''we shall all be telepaths.'''" <br />
| Gumbril, a character in {{w|Aldous Huxley}}'s novel ''{{w|Antic Hay}}''<br />
| 1923<br />
| Not realized{{Citation needed}}<br />
| [http://books.google.com/books?id=pdXj2SZ1mT8C&pg=PA205]: "And it's my firm belief," said Gumbril Senior, adding notes to his epic, "that they [the birds] make use of some sort of telepathy, some kind of direct mind-to-mind communication between themselves. You can't watch them without coming to that conclusion." [...] "It's a faculty," Gumbril Senior went on, "we all possess, I believe. All we animals." [...] "By the twenty-first century, I believe, we shall all be telepaths. Meanwhile, these delightful birds have forestalled us."<br />
|-<br />
| "The physician of the twenty-first century… may even criticize the language of the times, and may find that '''some of our words have become as offensive to him as the term "lunatic" has become offensive to us.'''"<br />
| Dr. C. Macfie Cambell<br />
| 1924<br />
| 1950's–present<br />
| The word "lunatic" is still considered derogatory and because of that it would never be used in a clinical sense. He correctly predicts the trajectory of terms like "{{w|mentally retarded}}", itself adopted by his day to replace earlier terms for the intellectually disabled, such as "moron" and "imbecile", which had become pejorative. Soon enough the word "retard" joined them in that regard, and it has now largely been abandoned as a medical term. This cycle is a common one, known as (among other things) the "{{w|euphemism treadmill}}".<br />
|-<br />
| "Historians of the twenty-first century will look back with well-placed scorn on the '''shallow-minded days''' of the early twentieth century '''when football games and petting parties were considered the most important elements of a college education.'''" <br />
| Mary Eileen Ahern, Library Bureau<br />
| 1926<br />
| Subjective<br />
| This item is likely included somewhat sardonically, because an emphasis on college athletics and wild parties remains an important part of the college experience for many people, and that emphasis is likely at least as common as it was 90 years ago, and probably condemned less often. They're not considered "the most important elements" by most people, either now or then, but many students consider them to be an essential part of being in college. There's little to no evidence that college students have become more studious or less inclined to have fun over the last century. <br />
|-<br />
| "'''In the year A.D. 2014''' journalists will be writing on the centenary of the great war — '''that is, if there has not been a greater war.'''"<br />
| F.J.M, The Journalist<br />
| 1934<br />
| 2014 and 1939 respectively<br />
| At the time of this prediction, {{w|World War I}} was generally referred to as "The Great War". Five years after this prediction was made, {{w|World War II}} began, tragically fulfilling the condition of "a greater war". As bloody and brutal as World War I was, World War II was worse, by almost every possible metric. Journalists definitely wrote articles about World War I on its anniversary, and the war is still remembered and studied, but it has very certainly been overshadowed in most of the world by the "greater war". <br />
|}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:(This is a series of quotes from various people of various timeframes. Each quote is followed by the author, the document of publication if applicable, and the year.)<br />
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:'''Notes from the past'''<br />
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:It's desirable '''every thing printed should be preserved,''' for we '''cannot now tell how useful it may become''' two centuries hence.<br />
::Christopher Baldwin<br />
:::'''1834'''<br />
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:I predict that a century hence the '''Canadian people''' will be '''the noblest specimens of humanity on the face of the earth'''<br />
::Rev. John Bredin<br />
:::'''1863'''<br />
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:In the twenty-first century '''mankind will subsist entirely upon jellies.'''<br />
::''The Booklover''<br />
:::'''1903'''<br />
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:The twenty-first century baby is destined to be rocked and cradled by electricity, warmed and coddled by electricity, perhaps fathered and mothered by electricity. '''Probably the only thing he will be left to do unaided will be to make love.'''<br />
::Mrs. John Lane, ''The fortnightly''<br />
:::'''1905'''<br />
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:To-day, in the city of New York, sixty-six different tongues are spoken. '''A century hence, there will probably be only one.'''<br />
::''The American Historical Magazine''<br />
:::'''1907'''<br />
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:I often think '''what interesting history we are making for the student of the twenty-first century.'''<br />
::Willian Carey Jones<br />
:::'''1908'''<br />
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:China may be a '''great shoe market''' a decade or a century from now.<br />
::''Boot and Shoe Recorder''<br />
:::'''1914'''<br />
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:'''We cannot settle the problem,''' and I venture the prophecy that perhaps '''a century from now this same question may be brought before some future society and discussed very much as it is tonight.'''<br />
::Dr. Barton C. Hirst on the subject of '''abortion'''<br />
:::'''1914'''<br />
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:By the twenty-first century I believe '''we shall all be telepaths.'''<br />
::Gumbriel, character in ''Antic Hay''<br />
:::'''1923'''<br />
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:The physician of the twenty-first century… may even criticize the language of the times, and may find that '''some of our words have become as offensive to him as the term "lunatic" has become offensive to us.'''<br />
::Dr. C. Macfie Campbell<br />
:::'''1924'''<br />
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:Historians of the twenty-first century will look back with well-placed scorn on the '''shallow-minded days''' of the early twentieth century '''when football games and petting parties were considered the most important elements of a college education.'''<br />
::Mary Eileen Ahern, ''Library Bureau''<br />
:::'''1926'''<br />
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:'''In the year A.D. 2014''' journalists will be writing on the centenary of the great war — '''that is, if there has not been a greater war.'''<br />
::F.J.M, ''The Journalist''<br />
:::'''1934'''<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
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This may be the comic with the highest word count in the [[Title text| title text]]. (highest character count: [[1363|1363: xkcd phone]])<br />
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| number = 1363<br />
| date = May 2, 2014<br />
| title = xkcd Phone<br />
| image = xkcd_phone.png<br />
| titletext = Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce. Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts. Price includes 2-year Knicks contract. Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles. If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives. Do not remove lead casing. Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal. Volume adjustable (requires root). If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately. Do not submerge in water; phone will drown. Exterior may be frictionless. Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures. Avert eyes while replacing battery. Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
This comic is a parody of a multitude of mobile-technology related issues that, when brought together, create a general satire of smartphone advertising. It was the first entry in the ongoing [[:Category:xkcd Phones|xkcd Phone series]] with the next [[1465: xkcd Phone 2]] released about nine months later. The advertised features here either make previously useful capabilities useless or add features nobody wants. <br />
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The phone's tagline, "Your mobile world just went digital", is purposefully outdated. It references a time when cell phones transitioned from analog to digital technology, which happened many years before the comic's publication. By marketing the xkcd Phone as "going digital," the implication is that it's a groundbreaking advancement, integrating computers and the internet into a market that has always involved these elements. However, the mobile phone market had already been digital for a long time, making the marketing of the xkcd phone seem dated and clueless.<br />
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=== Phone features ===<br />
From the top, going clockwise:<br />
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; Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
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: iOS and Android are offered by different conglomerates and run on different kernels ({{w|Darwin (operating system)|Darwin}} and {{w|Linux kernel|Linux}}, respectively). A "custom blend" would probably be a nightmare to work with. <br />
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; Simulates alternative speed of light (default<nowiki>:</nowiki> 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
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: This renders the clock useless as a means of telling time. The {{w|speed of light}} is 299,792,458&nbsp;meters per second; relativistic effects, such as {{w|time dilation}}, are only noticeable at significant fractions of the speed of light. Since the phone is simulating a much slower speed of light, driving at even highway speeds will cause a significant amount of time dilation. For example, driving at 90&nbsp;mph (90% of the default simulated speed of light) will give a time dilation factor of about 2.29, causing the clock to advance only 26&nbsp;minutes for each hour; driving at exactly 100&nbsp;mph makes the dilation factor infinite and will stop the clock entirely. Driving beyond 100&nbsp;mph would make the clock start advancing through imaginary/complex time rather than real time, somehow, or maybe the phone will refuse to travel faster than 100&nbsp;mph.<br />
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; Wireless<br />
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: Here it's indented as "cordless phone". This is the bare minimum a phone has to have in order to be a mobile phone, so advertising it as a feature feels dated by decades. The alternative explanation, as in the phone has no wires at all, even inside, would render the phone either useless or extremely advanced technologically.<br />
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; Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
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: A humorous function. Rather than having some sort of feature to prevent breakage or cracking when a drop is detected, the phone just makes you more aware of its potential imminent doom.<br />
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; When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
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: Bait and switch, and also a build from the previous joke. The implied feature is that the screen or camera will automatically adjust, but instead the phone is weirdly anthropomorphized. This may also be an annoying feature as many people's phones are exposed to light quite frequently.{{citation needed}}<br />
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; FlightAware partnership<nowiki>:</nowiki> makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
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: This is a reference to the [http://www.flightaware.com/ FlightAware] flight tracking service. This FlightAware partnership results in the phone playing airplane engine noise whenever a flight passes over the phone's current location, an annoying and arbitrary feature. It may also be superfluous, as such noise may be heard from the plane itself, depending on altitude. This app was referenced in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
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; Realistic case<br />
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: It's possibly a joke on various audiovisual devices like gaming consoles that advertise realistic sound, graphics, etc. Of course, applying "realistic" to an actual physical case is ridiculous. Either the case is actually real, or it doesn't actually function as a case. Possible reference to [[331: Photoshops]], where [[Cueball]] finds a physical object to not look realistic. Could also be a reference to "case" as in "best case" or "worst case", which would make this the realistic case. This would also be ridiculous. It may be possible this is implying that most phone cases are organic, and this one is fake, so it is "realistic" in comparison to other phone cases. <br />
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; Clear screen<br />
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: This is a pointless descriptor from the perspective of the consumer because it's obvious that the screen is clear. This joke works in tandem with the previous joke, as a play on "clear case, realistic screen," which are both hypothetically viable selling points. It could also mean that the screen is clear all the way through, allowing you to see the electronics inside.<br />
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; Side-facing camera<br />
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: There was a recent controversy surrounding an [https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spy-cam-peek-i Indiegogo for a surreptitious, side-mounted camera device] for smartphones due to the advertisement of the device as a good way to take creep shots, which are illegal in many places. Widespread dissemination of these devices as a built-in feature would likely result in a sharp increase in delinquency of this nature. May also be an ''ad absurdum'' extension of devices with both forward and backward facing cameras.<br />
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=== Title text ===<br />
The ominous warnings and disclaimers in the title text are probably a reference to the ''Saturday Night Live'' parody ad for {{w|Happy Fun Ball}} ([https://youtu.be/GmqeZl8OI2M watch on YouTube]).<br />
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; Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce.<br />
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: {{w|Qualcomm}} is a semiconductor company that designs and produces chips for mobile phones. {{w|Whirlpool Corporation}} is a large American multinational manufacturer and marketer of home appliances, while {{w|Whirlpool (website)|Whirlpool}} is a prominent Australian tech forum website, originally created for discussion of Australian broadband providers but now extending to cover general tech topics, including mobile phones. The other companies and lobbying organizations mentioned here have no association with mobile phones<!-- do explain them -->, though there is a long history of unrelated companies attempting to leverage their respective brands to help promote each other. {{w|Craigslist}} is a website which displays classified advertisements such as apartments for rent and items for sale. {{w|Hostess}} is a brand of snack cakes, whose best known product is {{w|Twinkies}}. {{w|LifeStyles}} is a brand of {{w|condom}}. The {{w|US Chamber of Commerce}} is a lobbyist group known for sponsoring political campaign ads, so their partnership with a phone manufacturer would imply some sort of political motive to its design.<br />
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; Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts.<br />
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: A warning often seen on candy and other foods for people with a peanut allergy. It is highly unlikely that equipment used to produce mobile phones would also process food.{{Citation needed}}<br />
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; Price includes 2-year Knicks contract.<br />
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: Mobile phones are often sold by phone companies in combination with a cell phone contract. The {{w|New York Knicks|Knicks}}, a team with a history of questionable personnel decisions, might in fact be willing to offer 2-year contracts (worth at least $1,100,000) to cellular phone purchasers regardless of their skill at basketball, though the vast majority of customers wouldn't be interested.<br />
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; Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles.<br />
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: A rather oddly specific capability, which might also be annoying for anyone attempting to host a birthday party. As to how it would do this, a very powerful directional speaker would be able to blow out a nearby candle, but the speakers in mobile phones aren't going to be that big. It is also difficult to work out how the phone would detect and identify birthday candles. Perhaps when the phone senses light from candles, it says "hi" (see above) so loudly that they blow out. This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
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; If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives.<br />
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: {{w|Siri}} is a virtual personal assistant application for Apple devices. Not speaking to it and not following its instructions would defeat its purpose. It may suggest that a malevolent "Siri AI" has sneaked itself onto some devices, at the manufacturing stage, for some diabolical purpose. This may be a reference to the Companion Cube in the game {{w|Portal (video game)|Portal}}, in which the player is instructed by GLaDOS to disregard its advice if the cube appears to be animate, or it may be a reference to the [[1450: AI-Box Experiment|AI-Box Experiment]], in which allowing the AI to engage you in conversation will almost certainly result in it successfully convincing you to let it out of the box (here, probably connecting the phone to a data network).<br />
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; Do not remove lead casing.<br />
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: A mobile phone encased in lead would not function because it could not transmit or receive data. Devices that emit high levels of ionizing radiation are often encased in lead, but a phone that would emit that level of radiation would be unhealthy to carry around. If encased in sufficient lead to mitigate the danger, it would be uncomfortably heavy. This might be reference to [[925: Cell Phones]] where Randall makes fun of the {{w|WHO}} claiming that cell phones might cause cancer despite huge studies showing the opposite. This could also mean the device is an actual bananaphone as regular phones emit no ionizing radiation ([http://xkcd.com/radiation xkcd Radiation Dose Chart]). Regrettably, the lead casing would render the phone inedible, although this somewhat mitigates the issues with having been manufactured on equipment that also processes peanuts.<br />
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; Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal.<br />
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: Some plants, like the {{w|Venus flytrap}}, attract and trap insects, but mobile phones are not known to exhibit this behavior.{{Citation needed}} This could possibly be a play on software ''bugs'' being introduced to the phone more easily than usual, depending on the specifics of its operating system (made much more likely by its apparent custom-made blended OS (see above)). Also may be a reference to {{w|Rasberry crazy ants}} which are attracted to electronics.<br />
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; Volume adjustable (requires root). <br />
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: {{w|Android rooting|Rooting}} is the method to gain privileged access on Android phones, allowing one to access features that normal users would not and should not normally modify. Adjusting the volume should be available to any user and should not be restricted to root access only.{{Citation needed}}<br />
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; If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately.<br />
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: These symptoms are usually associated with chemical or {{w|radiation poisoning}}. It is unclear why these would be cured by a {{w|factory reset}}, though software apps could plausibly be used to display nauseating visual effects. Radiation poisoning as a possible cause may also relate to the lead casing mentioned above. It is unclear how a (software-only) factory reset would repair a damaged lead casing. This may also be a reference to the series of similar disclaimers at the end of many medical advertisements.<br />
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; Do not submerge in water; phone will drown.<br />
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: Most phones are not waterproof and will probably short-circuit when submerged. The specific term of drowning would however imply that the phone breathes air (which actually would be possible if it had a {{w|Lithium–air battery}}). This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
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; Exterior may be frictionless.<br />
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: The front of a smartphone is usually made of glass and should have a surface with very low friction. The back of a phone is usually made from a material that has higher friction to make it pleasant to hold and to make sure it doesn't slide off objects it is placed on. A [[669: Experiment|completely frictionless surface]] would make it almost impossible to hold and would make it very susceptible to drops (at which point the phone will scream).<br />
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; Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures.<br />
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: These are all side effects that are associated with certain kinds of medication or radiation treatment of the brain and would not be acceptable for mobile phones. This may be the explanation for the memory loss in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
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; Avert eyes while replacing battery.<br />
<br />
: Actions that would warrant averting your eyes are usually associated with high-intensity light capable of causing eye damage. Depending on the specific energy source, this may be accompanied by high levels of other types of radiation (e.g. making an {{w|X-ray}} photo). This may hint that the phone might be powered by a {{w|radionuclide}} battery which would explain the lead casing and the possible radiation side effects. A phone that emits X-ray radiation would not be healthy to be around. Alternately, this may be a reference to the {{w|Ark Of The Covenant}}, implying that gazing upon the battery or the compartment wall behind it is forbidden on pain of severe punishment. Or merely that with its back removed the phone would be naked, and the user should avert their eyes to preserve the phone's modesty.<br />
<br />
; Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
<br />
: In {{w|monotheistic religions}}, God is the omnipotent creator of the universe; the very notion that He could be controlled is both heretical and, under some definitions of omnipotence, impossible (under others, omnipotence includes the ability to be or not to be controlled).<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
:[An image of a smartphone standing up with a small dot on the side and a single button at the bottom. Many labels are pointing to different parts of it. Clockwise from the top left they read:]<br />
:Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
:Simulates alternative speed of light (default: 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
:Wireless<br />
:Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
:When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
:FlightAware partnership: Makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
:Realistic case<br />
:Clear screen<br />
:Side-facing camera<br />
<br />
:''Introducing''<br />
:<big><big>'''The xkcd Phone'''</big></big><br />
:Your mobile world just went digital® <br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
This might be the comic with the highest character count in the [[Title text|title text]], with a word count of 112.<br />
(highest word count: [[1311|1311:2014]])<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Comics sharing name|xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Religion]] <!-- Control God in title text --><br />
[[Category:Virtual Assistants]]<br />
[[Category:Aviation]] <!-- FlightAware --></div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1363:_xkcd_Phone&diff=3733831363: xkcd Phone2025-04-18T15:17:52Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Trivia */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1363<br />
| date = May 2, 2014<br />
| title = xkcd Phone<br />
| image = xkcd_phone.png<br />
| titletext = Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce. Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts. Price includes 2-year Knicks contract. Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles. If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives. Do not remove lead casing. Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal. Volume adjustable (requires root). If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately. Do not submerge in water; phone will drown. Exterior may be frictionless. Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures. Avert eyes while replacing battery. Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Explanation==<br />
This comic is a parody of a multitude of mobile-technology related issues that, when brought together, create a general satire of smartphone advertising. It was the first entry in the ongoing [[:Category:xkcd Phones|xkcd Phone series]] with the next [[1465: xkcd Phone 2]] released about nine months later. The advertised features here either make previously useful capabilities useless or add features nobody wants. <br />
<br />
The phone's tagline, "Your mobile world just went digital", is purposefully outdated. It references a time when cell phones transitioned from analog to digital technology, which happened many years before the comic's publication. By marketing the xkcd Phone as "going digital," the implication is that it's a groundbreaking advancement, integrating computers and the internet into a market that has always involved these elements. However, the mobile phone market had already been digital for a long time, making the marketing of the xkcd phone seem dated and clueless.<br />
<br />
=== Phone features ===<br />
From the top, going clockwise:<br />
<br />
; Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
<br />
: iOS and Android are offered by different conglomerates and run on different kernels ({{w|Darwin (operating system)|Darwin}} and {{w|Linux kernel|Linux}}, respectively). A "custom blend" would probably be a nightmare to work with. <br />
<br />
; Simulates alternative speed of light (default<nowiki>:</nowiki> 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
<br />
: This renders the clock useless as a means of telling time. The {{w|speed of light}} is 299,792,458&nbsp;meters per second; relativistic effects, such as {{w|time dilation}}, are only noticeable at significant fractions of the speed of light. Since the phone is simulating a much slower speed of light, driving at even highway speeds will cause a significant amount of time dilation. For example, driving at 90&nbsp;mph (90% of the default simulated speed of light) will give a time dilation factor of about 2.29, causing the clock to advance only 26&nbsp;minutes for each hour; driving at exactly 100&nbsp;mph makes the dilation factor infinite and will stop the clock entirely. Driving beyond 100&nbsp;mph would make the clock start advancing through imaginary/complex time rather than real time, somehow, or maybe the phone will refuse to travel faster than 100&nbsp;mph.<br />
<br />
; Wireless<br />
<br />
: Here it's indented as "cordless phone". This is the bare minimum a phone has to have in order to be a mobile phone, so advertising it as a feature feels dated by decades. The alternative explanation, as in the phone has no wires at all, even inside, would render the phone either useless or extremely advanced technologically.<br />
<br />
; Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
<br />
: A humorous function. Rather than having some sort of feature to prevent breakage or cracking when a drop is detected, the phone just makes you more aware of its potential imminent doom.<br />
<br />
; When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
<br />
: Bait and switch, and also a build from the previous joke. The implied feature is that the screen or camera will automatically adjust, but instead the phone is weirdly anthropomorphized. This may also be an annoying feature as many people's phones are exposed to light quite frequently.{{citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; FlightAware partnership<nowiki>:</nowiki> makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
<br />
: This is a reference to the [http://www.flightaware.com/ FlightAware] flight tracking service. This FlightAware partnership results in the phone playing airplane engine noise whenever a flight passes over the phone's current location, an annoying and arbitrary feature. It may also be superfluous, as such noise may be heard from the plane itself, depending on altitude. This app was referenced in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
<br />
; Realistic case<br />
<br />
: It's possibly a joke on various audiovisual devices like gaming consoles that advertise realistic sound, graphics, etc. Of course, applying "realistic" to an actual physical case is ridiculous. Either the case is actually real, or it doesn't actually function as a case. Possible reference to [[331: Photoshops]], where [[Cueball]] finds a physical object to not look realistic. Could also be a reference to "case" as in "best case" or "worst case", which would make this the realistic case. This would also be ridiculous. It may be possible this is implying that most phone cases are organic, and this one is fake, so it is "realistic" in comparison to other phone cases. <br />
<br />
; Clear screen<br />
<br />
: This is a pointless descriptor from the perspective of the consumer because it's obvious that the screen is clear. This joke works in tandem with the previous joke, as a play on "clear case, realistic screen," which are both hypothetically viable selling points. It could also mean that the screen is clear all the way through, allowing you to see the electronics inside.<br />
<br />
; Side-facing camera<br />
<br />
: There was a recent controversy surrounding an [https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spy-cam-peek-i Indiegogo for a surreptitious, side-mounted camera device] for smartphones due to the advertisement of the device as a good way to take creep shots, which are illegal in many places. Widespread dissemination of these devices as a built-in feature would likely result in a sharp increase in delinquency of this nature. May also be an ''ad absurdum'' extension of devices with both forward and backward facing cameras.<br />
<!--<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
--><br />
=== Title text ===<br />
The ominous warnings and disclaimers in the title text are probably a reference to the ''Saturday Night Live'' parody ad for {{w|Happy Fun Ball}} ([https://youtu.be/GmqeZl8OI2M watch on YouTube]).<br />
<br />
; Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce.<br />
<br />
: {{w|Qualcomm}} is a semiconductor company that designs and produces chips for mobile phones. {{w|Whirlpool Corporation}} is a large American multinational manufacturer and marketer of home appliances, while {{w|Whirlpool (website)|Whirlpool}} is a prominent Australian tech forum website, originally created for discussion of Australian broadband providers but now extending to cover general tech topics, including mobile phones. The other companies and lobbying organizations mentioned here have no association with mobile phones<!-- do explain them -->, though there is a long history of unrelated companies attempting to leverage their respective brands to help promote each other. {{w|Craigslist}} is a website which displays classified advertisements such as apartments for rent and items for sale. {{w|Hostess}} is a brand of snack cakes, whose best known product is {{w|Twinkies}}. {{w|LifeStyles}} is a brand of {{w|condom}}. The {{w|US Chamber of Commerce}} is a lobbyist group known for sponsoring political campaign ads, so their partnership with a phone manufacturer would imply some sort of political motive to its design.<br />
<br />
; Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts.<br />
<br />
: A warning often seen on candy and other foods for people with a peanut allergy. It is highly unlikely that equipment used to produce mobile phones would also process food.{{Citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; Price includes 2-year Knicks contract.<br />
<br />
: Mobile phones are often sold by phone companies in combination with a cell phone contract. The {{w|New York Knicks|Knicks}}, a team with a history of questionable personnel decisions, might in fact be willing to offer 2-year contracts (worth at least $1,100,000) to cellular phone purchasers regardless of their skill at basketball, though the vast majority of customers wouldn't be interested.<br />
<br />
; Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles.<br />
<br />
: A rather oddly specific capability, which might also be annoying for anyone attempting to host a birthday party. As to how it would do this, a very powerful directional speaker would be able to blow out a nearby candle, but the speakers in mobile phones aren't going to be that big. It is also difficult to work out how the phone would detect and identify birthday candles. Perhaps when the phone senses light from candles, it says "hi" (see above) so loudly that they blow out. This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
<br />
; If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives.<br />
<br />
: {{w|Siri}} is a virtual personal assistant application for Apple devices. Not speaking to it and not following its instructions would defeat its purpose. It may suggest that a malevolent "Siri AI" has sneaked itself onto some devices, at the manufacturing stage, for some diabolical purpose. This may be a reference to the Companion Cube in the game {{w|Portal (video game)|Portal}}, in which the player is instructed by GLaDOS to disregard its advice if the cube appears to be animate, or it may be a reference to the [[1450: AI-Box Experiment|AI-Box Experiment]], in which allowing the AI to engage you in conversation will almost certainly result in it successfully convincing you to let it out of the box (here, probably connecting the phone to a data network).<br />
<br />
; Do not remove lead casing.<br />
<br />
: A mobile phone encased in lead would not function because it could not transmit or receive data. Devices that emit high levels of ionizing radiation are often encased in lead, but a phone that would emit that level of radiation would be unhealthy to carry around. If encased in sufficient lead to mitigate the danger, it would be uncomfortably heavy. This might be reference to [[925: Cell Phones]] where Randall makes fun of the {{w|WHO}} claiming that cell phones might cause cancer despite huge studies showing the opposite. This could also mean the device is an actual bananaphone as regular phones emit no ionizing radiation ([http://xkcd.com/radiation xkcd Radiation Dose Chart]). Regrettably, the lead casing would render the phone inedible, although this somewhat mitigates the issues with having been manufactured on equipment that also processes peanuts.<br />
<br />
; Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal.<br />
<br />
: Some plants, like the {{w|Venus flytrap}}, attract and trap insects, but mobile phones are not known to exhibit this behavior.{{Citation needed}} This could possibly be a play on software ''bugs'' being introduced to the phone more easily than usual, depending on the specifics of its operating system (made much more likely by its apparent custom-made blended OS (see above)). Also may be a reference to {{w|Rasberry crazy ants}} which are attracted to electronics.<br />
<br />
; Volume adjustable (requires root). <br />
<br />
: {{w|Android rooting|Rooting}} is the method to gain privileged access on Android phones, allowing one to access features that normal users would not and should not normally modify. Adjusting the volume should be available to any user and should not be restricted to root access only.{{Citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately.<br />
<br />
: These symptoms are usually associated with chemical or {{w|radiation poisoning}}. It is unclear why these would be cured by a {{w|factory reset}}, though software apps could plausibly be used to display nauseating visual effects. Radiation poisoning as a possible cause may also relate to the lead casing mentioned above. It is unclear how a (software-only) factory reset would repair a damaged lead casing. This may also be a reference to the series of similar disclaimers at the end of many medical advertisements.<br />
<br />
; Do not submerge in water; phone will drown.<br />
<br />
: Most phones are not waterproof and will probably short-circuit when submerged. The specific term of drowning would however imply that the phone breathes air (which actually would be possible if it had a {{w|Lithium–air battery}}). This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
<br />
; Exterior may be frictionless.<br />
<br />
: The front of a smartphone is usually made of glass and should have a surface with very low friction. The back of a phone is usually made from a material that has higher friction to make it pleasant to hold and to make sure it doesn't slide off objects it is placed on. A [[669: Experiment|completely frictionless surface]] would make it almost impossible to hold and would make it very susceptible to drops (at which point the phone will scream).<br />
<br />
; Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures.<br />
<br />
: These are all side effects that are associated with certain kinds of medication or radiation treatment of the brain and would not be acceptable for mobile phones. This may be the explanation for the memory loss in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
<br />
; Avert eyes while replacing battery.<br />
<br />
: Actions that would warrant averting your eyes are usually associated with high-intensity light capable of causing eye damage. Depending on the specific energy source, this may be accompanied by high levels of other types of radiation (e.g. making an {{w|X-ray}} photo). This may hint that the phone might be powered by a {{w|radionuclide}} battery which would explain the lead casing and the possible radiation side effects. A phone that emits X-ray radiation would not be healthy to be around. Alternately, this may be a reference to the {{w|Ark Of The Covenant}}, implying that gazing upon the battery or the compartment wall behind it is forbidden on pain of severe punishment. Or merely that with its back removed the phone would be naked, and the user should avert their eyes to preserve the phone's modesty.<br />
<br />
; Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
<br />
: In {{w|monotheistic religions}}, God is the omnipotent creator of the universe; the very notion that He could be controlled is both heretical and, under some definitions of omnipotence, impossible (under others, omnipotence includes the ability to be or not to be controlled).<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
:[An image of a smartphone standing up with a small dot on the side and a single button at the bottom. Many labels are pointing to different parts of it. Clockwise from the top left they read:]<br />
:Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
:Simulates alternative speed of light (default: 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
:Wireless<br />
:Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
:When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
:FlightAware partnership: Makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
:Realistic case<br />
:Clear screen<br />
:Side-facing camera<br />
<br />
:''Introducing''<br />
:<big><big>'''The xkcd Phone'''</big></big><br />
:Your mobile world just went digital® <br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
This might be the comic with the highest character count in the [[Title text|title text]], with a word count of 112.<br />
(highest word count: [[1311]])<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Comics sharing name|xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Religion]] <!-- Control God in title text --><br />
[[Category:Virtual Assistants]]<br />
[[Category:Aviation]] <!-- FlightAware --></div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1363:_xkcd_Phone&diff=3733821363: xkcd Phone2025-04-18T15:17:18Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Trivia */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1363<br />
| date = May 2, 2014<br />
| title = xkcd Phone<br />
| image = xkcd_phone.png<br />
| titletext = Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce. Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts. Price includes 2-year Knicks contract. Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles. If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives. Do not remove lead casing. Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal. Volume adjustable (requires root). If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately. Do not submerge in water; phone will drown. Exterior may be frictionless. Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures. Avert eyes while replacing battery. Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Explanation==<br />
This comic is a parody of a multitude of mobile-technology related issues that, when brought together, create a general satire of smartphone advertising. It was the first entry in the ongoing [[:Category:xkcd Phones|xkcd Phone series]] with the next [[1465: xkcd Phone 2]] released about nine months later. The advertised features here either make previously useful capabilities useless or add features nobody wants. <br />
<br />
The phone's tagline, "Your mobile world just went digital", is purposefully outdated. It references a time when cell phones transitioned from analog to digital technology, which happened many years before the comic's publication. By marketing the xkcd Phone as "going digital," the implication is that it's a groundbreaking advancement, integrating computers and the internet into a market that has always involved these elements. However, the mobile phone market had already been digital for a long time, making the marketing of the xkcd phone seem dated and clueless.<br />
<br />
=== Phone features ===<br />
From the top, going clockwise:<br />
<br />
; Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
<br />
: iOS and Android are offered by different conglomerates and run on different kernels ({{w|Darwin (operating system)|Darwin}} and {{w|Linux kernel|Linux}}, respectively). A "custom blend" would probably be a nightmare to work with. <br />
<br />
; Simulates alternative speed of light (default<nowiki>:</nowiki> 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
<br />
: This renders the clock useless as a means of telling time. The {{w|speed of light}} is 299,792,458&nbsp;meters per second; relativistic effects, such as {{w|time dilation}}, are only noticeable at significant fractions of the speed of light. Since the phone is simulating a much slower speed of light, driving at even highway speeds will cause a significant amount of time dilation. For example, driving at 90&nbsp;mph (90% of the default simulated speed of light) will give a time dilation factor of about 2.29, causing the clock to advance only 26&nbsp;minutes for each hour; driving at exactly 100&nbsp;mph makes the dilation factor infinite and will stop the clock entirely. Driving beyond 100&nbsp;mph would make the clock start advancing through imaginary/complex time rather than real time, somehow, or maybe the phone will refuse to travel faster than 100&nbsp;mph.<br />
<br />
; Wireless<br />
<br />
: Here it's indented as "cordless phone". This is the bare minimum a phone has to have in order to be a mobile phone, so advertising it as a feature feels dated by decades. The alternative explanation, as in the phone has no wires at all, even inside, would render the phone either useless or extremely advanced technologically.<br />
<br />
; Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
<br />
: A humorous function. Rather than having some sort of feature to prevent breakage or cracking when a drop is detected, the phone just makes you more aware of its potential imminent doom.<br />
<br />
; When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
<br />
: Bait and switch, and also a build from the previous joke. The implied feature is that the screen or camera will automatically adjust, but instead the phone is weirdly anthropomorphized. This may also be an annoying feature as many people's phones are exposed to light quite frequently.{{citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; FlightAware partnership<nowiki>:</nowiki> makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
<br />
: This is a reference to the [http://www.flightaware.com/ FlightAware] flight tracking service. This FlightAware partnership results in the phone playing airplane engine noise whenever a flight passes over the phone's current location, an annoying and arbitrary feature. It may also be superfluous, as such noise may be heard from the plane itself, depending on altitude. This app was referenced in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
<br />
; Realistic case<br />
<br />
: It's possibly a joke on various audiovisual devices like gaming consoles that advertise realistic sound, graphics, etc. Of course, applying "realistic" to an actual physical case is ridiculous. Either the case is actually real, or it doesn't actually function as a case. Possible reference to [[331: Photoshops]], where [[Cueball]] finds a physical object to not look realistic. Could also be a reference to "case" as in "best case" or "worst case", which would make this the realistic case. This would also be ridiculous. It may be possible this is implying that most phone cases are organic, and this one is fake, so it is "realistic" in comparison to other phone cases. <br />
<br />
; Clear screen<br />
<br />
: This is a pointless descriptor from the perspective of the consumer because it's obvious that the screen is clear. This joke works in tandem with the previous joke, as a play on "clear case, realistic screen," which are both hypothetically viable selling points. It could also mean that the screen is clear all the way through, allowing you to see the electronics inside.<br />
<br />
; Side-facing camera<br />
<br />
: There was a recent controversy surrounding an [https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spy-cam-peek-i Indiegogo for a surreptitious, side-mounted camera device] for smartphones due to the advertisement of the device as a good way to take creep shots, which are illegal in many places. Widespread dissemination of these devices as a built-in feature would likely result in a sharp increase in delinquency of this nature. May also be an ''ad absurdum'' extension of devices with both forward and backward facing cameras.<br />
<!--<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
--><br />
=== Title text ===<br />
The ominous warnings and disclaimers in the title text are probably a reference to the ''Saturday Night Live'' parody ad for {{w|Happy Fun Ball}} ([https://youtu.be/GmqeZl8OI2M watch on YouTube]).<br />
<br />
; Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce.<br />
<br />
: {{w|Qualcomm}} is a semiconductor company that designs and produces chips for mobile phones. {{w|Whirlpool Corporation}} is a large American multinational manufacturer and marketer of home appliances, while {{w|Whirlpool (website)|Whirlpool}} is a prominent Australian tech forum website, originally created for discussion of Australian broadband providers but now extending to cover general tech topics, including mobile phones. The other companies and lobbying organizations mentioned here have no association with mobile phones<!-- do explain them -->, though there is a long history of unrelated companies attempting to leverage their respective brands to help promote each other. {{w|Craigslist}} is a website which displays classified advertisements such as apartments for rent and items for sale. {{w|Hostess}} is a brand of snack cakes, whose best known product is {{w|Twinkies}}. {{w|LifeStyles}} is a brand of {{w|condom}}. The {{w|US Chamber of Commerce}} is a lobbyist group known for sponsoring political campaign ads, so their partnership with a phone manufacturer would imply some sort of political motive to its design.<br />
<br />
; Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts.<br />
<br />
: A warning often seen on candy and other foods for people with a peanut allergy. It is highly unlikely that equipment used to produce mobile phones would also process food.{{Citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; Price includes 2-year Knicks contract.<br />
<br />
: Mobile phones are often sold by phone companies in combination with a cell phone contract. The {{w|New York Knicks|Knicks}}, a team with a history of questionable personnel decisions, might in fact be willing to offer 2-year contracts (worth at least $1,100,000) to cellular phone purchasers regardless of their skill at basketball, though the vast majority of customers wouldn't be interested.<br />
<br />
; Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles.<br />
<br />
: A rather oddly specific capability, which might also be annoying for anyone attempting to host a birthday party. As to how it would do this, a very powerful directional speaker would be able to blow out a nearby candle, but the speakers in mobile phones aren't going to be that big. It is also difficult to work out how the phone would detect and identify birthday candles. Perhaps when the phone senses light from candles, it says "hi" (see above) so loudly that they blow out. This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
<br />
; If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives.<br />
<br />
: {{w|Siri}} is a virtual personal assistant application for Apple devices. Not speaking to it and not following its instructions would defeat its purpose. It may suggest that a malevolent "Siri AI" has sneaked itself onto some devices, at the manufacturing stage, for some diabolical purpose. This may be a reference to the Companion Cube in the game {{w|Portal (video game)|Portal}}, in which the player is instructed by GLaDOS to disregard its advice if the cube appears to be animate, or it may be a reference to the [[1450: AI-Box Experiment|AI-Box Experiment]], in which allowing the AI to engage you in conversation will almost certainly result in it successfully convincing you to let it out of the box (here, probably connecting the phone to a data network).<br />
<br />
; Do not remove lead casing.<br />
<br />
: A mobile phone encased in lead would not function because it could not transmit or receive data. Devices that emit high levels of ionizing radiation are often encased in lead, but a phone that would emit that level of radiation would be unhealthy to carry around. If encased in sufficient lead to mitigate the danger, it would be uncomfortably heavy. This might be reference to [[925: Cell Phones]] where Randall makes fun of the {{w|WHO}} claiming that cell phones might cause cancer despite huge studies showing the opposite. This could also mean the device is an actual bananaphone as regular phones emit no ionizing radiation ([http://xkcd.com/radiation xkcd Radiation Dose Chart]). Regrettably, the lead casing would render the phone inedible, although this somewhat mitigates the issues with having been manufactured on equipment that also processes peanuts.<br />
<br />
; Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal.<br />
<br />
: Some plants, like the {{w|Venus flytrap}}, attract and trap insects, but mobile phones are not known to exhibit this behavior.{{Citation needed}} This could possibly be a play on software ''bugs'' being introduced to the phone more easily than usual, depending on the specifics of its operating system (made much more likely by its apparent custom-made blended OS (see above)). Also may be a reference to {{w|Rasberry crazy ants}} which are attracted to electronics.<br />
<br />
; Volume adjustable (requires root). <br />
<br />
: {{w|Android rooting|Rooting}} is the method to gain privileged access on Android phones, allowing one to access features that normal users would not and should not normally modify. Adjusting the volume should be available to any user and should not be restricted to root access only.{{Citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately.<br />
<br />
: These symptoms are usually associated with chemical or {{w|radiation poisoning}}. It is unclear why these would be cured by a {{w|factory reset}}, though software apps could plausibly be used to display nauseating visual effects. Radiation poisoning as a possible cause may also relate to the lead casing mentioned above. It is unclear how a (software-only) factory reset would repair a damaged lead casing. This may also be a reference to the series of similar disclaimers at the end of many medical advertisements.<br />
<br />
; Do not submerge in water; phone will drown.<br />
<br />
: Most phones are not waterproof and will probably short-circuit when submerged. The specific term of drowning would however imply that the phone breathes air (which actually would be possible if it had a {{w|Lithium–air battery}}). This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
<br />
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: The front of a smartphone is usually made of glass and should have a surface with very low friction. The back of a phone is usually made from a material that has higher friction to make it pleasant to hold and to make sure it doesn't slide off objects it is placed on. A [[669: Experiment|completely frictionless surface]] would make it almost impossible to hold and would make it very susceptible to drops (at which point the phone will scream).<br />
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; Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures.<br />
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: These are all side effects that are associated with certain kinds of medication or radiation treatment of the brain and would not be acceptable for mobile phones. This may be the explanation for the memory loss in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
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; Avert eyes while replacing battery.<br />
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: Actions that would warrant averting your eyes are usually associated with high-intensity light capable of causing eye damage. Depending on the specific energy source, this may be accompanied by high levels of other types of radiation (e.g. making an {{w|X-ray}} photo). This may hint that the phone might be powered by a {{w|radionuclide}} battery which would explain the lead casing and the possible radiation side effects. A phone that emits X-ray radiation would not be healthy to be around. Alternately, this may be a reference to the {{w|Ark Of The Covenant}}, implying that gazing upon the battery or the compartment wall behind it is forbidden on pain of severe punishment. Or merely that with its back removed the phone would be naked, and the user should avert their eyes to preserve the phone's modesty.<br />
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; Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
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: In {{w|monotheistic religions}}, God is the omnipotent creator of the universe; the very notion that He could be controlled is both heretical and, under some definitions of omnipotence, impossible (under others, omnipotence includes the ability to be or not to be controlled).<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[An image of a smartphone standing up with a small dot on the side and a single button at the bottom. Many labels are pointing to different parts of it. Clockwise from the top left they read:]<br />
:Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
:Simulates alternative speed of light (default: 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
:Wireless<br />
:Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
:When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
:FlightAware partnership: Makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
:Realistic case<br />
:Clear screen<br />
:Side-facing camera<br />
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:''Introducing''<br />
:<big><big>'''The xkcd Phone'''</big></big><br />
:Your mobile world just went digital® <br />
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==Trivia==<br />
This might be the comic with the highest character count in the [[Title text|title text]], with a word count of 112.<br />
(highest word count: [[1113]])<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Comics sharing name|xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Religion]] <!-- Control God in title text --><br />
[[Category:Virtual Assistants]]<br />
[[Category:Aviation]] <!-- FlightAware --></div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1363:_xkcd_Phone&diff=373381Talk:1363: xkcd Phone2025-04-18T15:13:59Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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<div>[[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.216|108.162.249.216]]<br />
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Where, exactly, would one find a citation that mobile phones are not known to trap insects? Is the "citation needed" meant to be funny? It's like making the statement that humans aren't entirely made of glass- who would bother to write anything that could serve as a citation for that? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.139|172.69.68.139]] 22:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's a running joke on ExplainXKCD. See [[Wikipedian Protester#Trivia]]. {{User:PoolloverNathan/Signature}} 15:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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14:14, 4 August 2014 (UTC) Mobile phones haven't always been electronic. Remember the old 'bricks' from the '80s and '90s? More machine than computer.<br />
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This seems like an SCP artifact [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.220|108.162.249.220]] 10:09, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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^someone get on this, please [[User:Whiskey07|Whiskey07]] ([[User talk:Whiskey07|talk]]) 16:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I really dislike the tone of the explanation. I mean it's so negative about the features! Not that they are all useful, but isn't this a wiki and should be neutral? It takes also the fun out of it. I would like a screaming while falling phone and the relativity thing would be great for teaching relativity! [[User:RecentlyChanged|RecentlyChanged]] ([[User talk:RecentlyChanged|talk]])<br />
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Where can i get one of these? :D [[User:UniTrader|UniTrader]] ([[User talk:UniTrader|talk]]) 04:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I'm pretty sure the "scream when falling" thing and the "flightaware" stuff can be done somehow with Tasker. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.103.206|141.101.103.206]] 04:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I suspect it was either Black Hat or Beret Guy, but I'm not sure which. A collaboration? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.45|173.245.54.45]] 04:47, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This sounds like something straight out of aperture. {{unsigned ip|108.162.221.55}}<br />
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Yes, useless as a feature on all the time; but it would be a cool app. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 05:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Absolutely. Where can I get an app like that?[[Special:Contributions/108.162.225.157|108.162.225.157]] 06:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Here: [http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pandorica.xkcdclock XKCD Clock] [[Special:Contributions/173.245.53.114|173.245.53.114]] 16:11, 7 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Travelling at above the simulated speed of light should give an imaginary time dilation, not a negative time dilation.<br />
gamma = 1/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}<br />
Thus, after such travel, the value of the clock would be a complex number. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.35|108.162.219.35]] 15:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Does the alternate speed of light simulator also dynamically adjust the mass of the phone? Better yet, does it also dynamically adjust the mass of its comoving surroundings (person holding phone, vehicle phone is traveling in)?[[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.27|172.69.23.27]] 01:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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'''Changed the speed of light to 2.99x10^8'''<br />
:You guys should probably clarify that the relativisic affects actually depend on how long your trip is or how long you wait to sync your phone. For relativity to be observable on a 12 hour trip, Minimum speed for a phone would have to be 300 m/s or 3000 m/s for the clock to measure even a microsecond/millisecond difference in time. This is well known thanks to the certain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation#Velocity_and_gravitational_time_dilation_combined-effect_tests time dilation experiments with planes]. Your GPS chip helps account for an error of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_analysis_for_the_Global_Positioning_System#Relativity 7 to 47 microseconds per day]. My point is in terms of time dilation, relativity mattering depends on how long a trip or waiting for synchronization is. By synching, I literally mean with the atomic time clock or with a GPS satellite. The synchronization of your phone with satellites is actually a couple of hundred microseconds, so normally even a light changing clock might not have as noticable changes as you might think. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.225|108.162.238.225]] 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC) --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.225|108.162.238.225]] 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
Yeah sorry forgot to login. does anyone know how to do the indices formatting other than eg 2.99x10(littlex) rather then 2.99x10^x? [[User:Jonv4n|Jonv4n]] ([[User talk:Jonv4n|talk]]) 06:29, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
: Whas<sup>sup</sup>? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.89.220|141.101.89.220]] 07:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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; relativistic effect<br />
Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not a physicist but the above explanation says that relativistic time dilation affects only occur at a significant fraction of the speed of light. It is my understanding that time dilation occurs at any speed, but is only perceptible/noticeable/measurable at very large fraction of the speed of light. Unless I'm mistaken the above it should reflect this. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.91|173.245.56.91]] 22:24, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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; putting "Relative" back into relativity<br />
First time poster, please forgive my transgressions :)<br />
My understanding regarding relativistic effects is that, for a given frame of reference (e.g. phone operator travelling at 0.9c) would be absolutely none. Relativistic effects (as I understand them) would only apply between two different frames of reference. The only effect I can see in this case is if you are moving towards, or away from the phone while operating, and red/blue shift of the radio frequencies. In general, wifi and bluetooth are used locally so wouldn't apply; only the phone network would be affected.<br />
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Also, perhaps the adjustable speed of light is a reference to the the game "A slower speed of light" by MIT Game Lab http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/ (in which you walk around collecting objects; each object slows light down, and increases relativistic effects).<br />
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'''Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal.'''<br />
Funnier if you take it as a reference to the [http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/04/07/mazda_issues_recall_because_spiders_invade_fuel_tank_causing_fire_risk.html spider problems] Mazda keeps on having... {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.64}}<br />
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About the attracting insects ... I would expect this to be normal feature in night. Trapping, however ... -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 09:08, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
: There are other indications that the phone is at least partly biological, this being the strongest evidence of that. Insects could be the power source for the biological part(s). [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.45|173.245.54.45]] 14:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This could also be a reference to computer bugs and the [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:H96566k.jpg Harvard Mark II]. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.249|199.27.128.249]] 08:31, 15 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Siri'''<br />
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Could the Siri bit be a reference to Portal? When I first read it, I remembered this GLaDOS quote: "Your Aperture Science Weighted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and in fact cannot speak. If your Weighted Companion Cube does speak, please disregard its advice." Could be completely wrong; just a thought. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.51|173.245.54.51]] 10:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Perhaps Siri is beling likened to the "ATMOS" device in the Doctor Who episode "The Sontaran Stratagem" [[User:Esp666|Esp666]] ([[User talk:Esp666|talk]]) 11:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Lamest. Comic. Ever. And I'm not just saying that because he doesn't mention the Ubuntu Touch OS. ''– [[User:Tbc|tbc]] ([[User talk:Tbc|talk]]) 12:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)''<br />
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'''Realistic case'''<br />
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Car telephones and the first cellphones were rather expensive, at least in Germany fake "realistic cases" were sold without any working electronics in it. Usage was to impress silly friends. {{unsigned ip|173.245.52.204}}<br />
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I thought this was aimed at the iPhone. Apparently these have an elegant case, but I have never actually seen one. Everyone I know covers their iPhone with some hideous plastic monstrosity, since the design is not practical.--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.59|108.162.218.59]] 14:10, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Could possibly be a reference to the "Realistic" brand, which was used on various products sold by Radio Shack (U.S. electronics retail chain) from 1954 to some time in the '90s.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.76|108.162.219.76]] 16:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I am not a native speaker of English. I thought the joke was on the double meaning of "case", meaning both "something that happened or might happen" (like "realistic scenario") and "something that covers something else". Does that make sense to you guys? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.17|108.162.219.17]] 10:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Screaming when in free fall: my first Android app!'''<br />
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I love the bit about screaming when in free fall: that was the first Android app I hacked together back in 2009 (based on the tricorder app). [[User:Nealmcb|Nealmcb]] ([[User talk:Nealmcb|talk]]) 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I actually made this app that simulates that [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.siluxmedia.frefall freeFall app][[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.32|108.162.212.32]] 19:03, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Title Text'''<br />
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Hover-over title text was truncated; love it.<br />
14:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[[User:Pocono Chuck|Pocono Chuck]] ([[User talk:Pocono Chuck|talk]])<br />
: you must have an really old firefox browser -- you should update !!! [[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.210|199.27.130.210]] 16:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:: Happened to me. Using whatever the latest IE is at the moment. It cut off at nause-. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Price includes 2-year Knicks contract.''' ... but a contract with the Knicks would only appeal to pro basketball players.<br />
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Nonsense. Lots of "regular" folks would buy this phone it it meant they got to play in the NBA. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.84|199.27.128.84]] 16:26, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: I agree with this. A whole lot of people who think they have "skillz" would buy the phone if they got into the NBA. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:14, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This may also be an indirect way of stating that it is incredibly expensive, seeing as those sort of contracts usually involve ''you'' getting compensated. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.33|108.162.216.33]] 13:41, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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"Your mobile world just went digital" is an inversion of the marketing-speak that was common when what we'd now regard as smartphones first began to be adopted by the mainstream (iPhone/G1 era, since Symbians, Blackberries, and early WinMo tended to be business or enthusiast devices). People already ubiquitously e-mailed, browsed the Web, etc...what was presented as 'new' was that you could now do it from your phone. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.58|173.245.54.58]] 19:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I think the "Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God" statement might be a reference to how transmitting devices have to comply with FCC regulation and not interfere with aircraft or government communications. Perhaps this phone is intended to be noncompliant so as to control high-level electronics, even at supernatural levels. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.66|173.245.56.66]] 21:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)Dbrak<br />
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'''Frictionless''' <br />
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You could hold a frictionless phone just by hooking your little finger under the bottom edge, regardless of friction gravity will hold it into your hand. Just like you could leave it in a bowl without it jumping out. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.72|108.162.229.72]] 19:12, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Unless you held your pinky perfectly balanced, horizontal and motionless, a frictionless object would slide right off it, as it would off any flat surface that is not perfectly horizontal.<br />
14:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.242.4|108.162.242.4]] 13:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)DCollins<br />
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Wouldn't you be able to hold it somewhat like a normal phone, if you hold a finger under the bottom of it? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:08, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Saying a frictionless phone can't be held is like saying prisoners would slide out of prisons if they had frictionless surfaces. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.218|108.162.237.218]] 14:50, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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If it was frictionless, it would be only slightly harder to hold than a wet bar of soap. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.186|108.162.219.186]] 22:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think it would be a lot harder than that. <span style="text-shadow:0 0 6px black">[[User:Beanie|<span style="font-size:11pt;color:#dddddd">Beanie</span>]]</span> <sup><span style="text-shadow:0 0 3px #000000">[[User talk:Beanie|<span style="font-size:8pt;color:#dddddd">talk</span>]]</span></sup> 13:44, 7 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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;Why the hell this funny phone isn't available at the xkcd store?<br />
I would buy if the price would be in the range of other articles there. Just for fun...--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:30, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, having a phone that causes symptoms of radiation poisoning would be very funny indeed. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.10.44|172.68.10.44]] 11:03, 16 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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'''Root needed'''<br />
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I think that needing root for ajust the volume may be a allusion people needing to root Android to change fonts or to take screenshots (untill version 4.x). [[User:FlavianusEP|FlavianusEP]] ([[User talk:FlavianusEP|talk]]) 23:04, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Or does volume refer to the overall size of the phone? {{unsigned ip|141.101.77.252}}<br />
:Probably not. It sufficiently works as humour in the original sense not to want to stretch (NPI!) the reference further.<br />
:PS, I de-edited FlavianusEP's thing. There was no reason to edit that. And, if you did, you could have made it grammatical too. "...needing root '''to''' a'''d'''just the volume...", not just the typo.<br />
:And I also credited you with your unsigned ip, which you forgot to provide yourself. Consider it the Pedant's Curse. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.121|172.70.90.121]] 23:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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'''Alternative meaning: The spirit of xkcd'''<br />
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I think there's a secondary possible interpretation for this comic -- that the various features of the phone represent the overall "spirit" or "attitude" of xkcd, in a way reminiscent of an early strip -- http://xkcd.com/207/ -- about "what xkcd means." More specifically, a common theme in xkcd is taking advanced concepts in science and technology, and applying them to whimsical, humorous, impractical, or outright impossible uses. Several of phone's features -- such as the simulated speed of light -- touch on the same theme. Wordplay, another common xkcd theme, is present as well; and the anthropomorphism of technology, along with making devices appear 'cute', is also present, and also is something that has come up in xkcd many times in the past.<br />
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The comic is called "xkcd Phone", after all -- I think simultaneously with being a parody of phone advertisements, the comic is also meant to show us what a phone that fits into the xkcd world would be like. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.114|108.162.241.114]] 17:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I agree; it seems like a basic comic at first glance, but I'm wondering if there's a meta-meaning if you put all of the pieces together. Each feature, and warning, is a clue to the overarching purpose of the phone, or to the true joke that this phone embodies. [[User:Imtrbl|imtrbl]] ([[User talk:Imtrbl|talk]]) 19:11, 8 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Blowing out candles....'''<br />
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For the birthday candles thing: I do remember seeing a video ad for an app back when the iphone was first opened up to outside developers that would turn the phone into a fan, and it demonstrated that it was strong enough to blow out a birthday candle. Seemed quite useless at the time. Still does today for that matter {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.47}}<br />
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'''Side-facing camera'''<br />
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I thought the joke here was that the camera ''only'' contained a side-facing camera rather than a side camera in addition to a front and back camera. While you can see the camera on the side, you don't see a camera on the front and they don't talk about a rear camera. It'd be pretty annoying to use a side-facing camera for anything but the surreptitious case you described. [[User:S|S]] ([[User talk:S|talk]]) 16:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Do not submerge in water'''<br />
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I assumed this was also referencing the 4chan, etc pranks with the waterproof iPhone [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.79|173.245.55.79]] 18:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Wireless'''<br />
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A completely wireless phone would not be unuseable. The only wire phones need nowadays is for recharging their battery, but this can be done by induction, like with the Qi system with which some Nokia and Google (Nexus) phones are compatible. [[User:Zoyd|Zoyd]] ([[User talk:Zoyd|talk]]) 12:25, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''FoxTrot reference?''' I think this one could be a reference to th J-Pad in the foxtrot webcomic http://www.foxtrot.com/2012/03/03042012/ . Foxtrot's author has already published a guest comic for XKCD a few years ago, so Randall should know about it. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.203|108.162.212.203]] 16:31, 11 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Cell Phones Cure Cancer?'''<br />
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I know, I know, the editor who added "makes fun of the WHO claiming that cell phones might cause cancer despite huge studies showing the opposite" probably didn't mean that, but it's kind of amusing to interpret it that way. [[User:Nyperold|Nyperold]] ([[User talk:Nyperold|talk]]) 19:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Some fake phones actually feature things like that. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubd2dX0YeSI this]. It does have a rear cam, but no front-facing one. [[User:Real English|Real English]] ([[User talk:Real English|talk]]) 15:41, 24 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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"Prolonged use may cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, or seizures" could also be referencing the adverse health effects commonly associated with spending too much time using a smartphone. Mood swings could be caused by the bewildering variety of content found on social media apps, which could result in the user's mood changing rapidly as they browse through unrelated topics that influence the way they feel. Short-term memory loss could be attributed to the fact that many users rely on their smartphones to take notes and set reminders. If a person depends almost solely on their phone to remember things for them, their short-term memory may degrade over time due to disuse. I don't know how seizures fits into this analogy, but it might've been included for the reasons described in the main explanation page. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.77|172.69.33.77]] 20:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Is this officially the longest title text record in XKCD? [[User:Xnerkcd|Xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 09:59, 12 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:That's interesting! it might be. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 10:42, 12 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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I believe I've set some more nerds on a pointless mission again...[[User:Xnerkcd|&#60;b&#62;&#60;i&#62;xnerkcd&#60;/b&#62;&#60;/i&#62;]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 06:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Wait! Look at comic number 1311! That's a longer title-text! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 09:38, 15 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Nope, it's shorter. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 17:13, 16 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:It's a higher word count, lower character count. --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 15:13, 18 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=685:_G-Spot&diff=373251685: G-Spot2025-04-17T13:27:21Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Transcript */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 685<br />
| date = January 6, 2010<br />
| title = G-Spot<br />
| image = g-spot.png<br />
| titletext = The BBC lead was 'The elusive erogenous zone said to exist in some women may be a myth, say researchers who have hunted for it.' I couldn't read it with a straight face.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
The {{w|G-Spot}} is, as the [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8439000.stm BBC has quoted] saying in the title text, an elusive erogenous zone some women claim to have that can be stimulated to enhance their sexual experience. <br />
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In this comic, a live press conference has been held due to a peer-reviewed study suggesting the G-Spot may not exist. But the press have entered the wrong meeting where [[Cueball]] (the researcher) has performed a study on solar cells. So initially he tries to claim that he has not been researching the G-Spot. But he also ends up shamefully admitting that he has tried but failed finding it anyway. That is, he has had difficulty making his lover orgasm through the use of G-spot stimulation.<br />
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In the title text [[Randall]] notes that he could not read the lead from the BBC story: ''The elusive erogenous zone said to exist in some women may be a myth, say researchers who have hunted for it.'' with a straight face. This is probably because Randall assumes that "hunted for it" means the researchers had frequent sexual intercourse.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[To the left of the main comic there is an explanation text without a frame around it:]<br />
:A study published in the journal of sexual medicine suggests that the g-spot may not actually exist.<br />
:We go live to the researchers' press conference:<br />
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:[Two reporters with microphones, Ponytail and a Cueball-like guy, stand below a podium where Cueball stands behind a lectern. Ponytail reach out with her microphone towards Cueball:]<br />
:Ponytail: Is it true you've been unable to find evidence that the G-spot exists?<br />
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:[Zoom in on Cueball and the top of the lectern:]<br />
:Cueball: My research is in solar cells. I think you have the wrong press conference.<br />
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:[Beat panel with the same view as before.]<br />
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:[Same view but now Cueball hangs his head. Smaller text.]<br />
:Cueball: But... yes.<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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the titletext still needs an explanation, but i'm not sure i get the connection to conformal field theory; i suspect it has to do with the explosive rate at which hyperolic space seems to "expand" when travelled through, as a pun on the club expanding at a similar rate? - [[User:Vaedez|Vaedez]] ([[User talk:Vaedez|talk]]) 07:01, 17 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.137|162.158.90.137]] 07:21, 17 April 2025 (UTC) I think it's alluding to {{w|AdS/CFT correspondence}}, which I think is a string theory thing.<br />
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In hyperbolic space, parallel lines DON'T meet when extended, and in elliptic space they DO. Also, the rotation thing looks strange. In any of the basic geometries you have 360 degrees in a circle. The sum of angles in triangle will be different (smaller than 180 in hyperbolic space, larger in elliptic space). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.213.151|172.68.213.151]] 07:58, 17 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
* Agreed. I went and changed it. Though technically, the stuff about parallel lines is still wrong. Parallel lines don't meet by definition, and spherical geometry doesn't have them. Maybe someone can add a better explanation? [[User:DanielLC|DanielLC]] ([[User talk:DanielLC|talk]]) 09:19, 17 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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The yellow wood is a hyperbolic space.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.4|141.101.99.4]] 08:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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maybe a pun on "babysitters are not welcome here" [[User:Translated ORK|Translated ORK]] ([[User talk:Translated ORK|talk]]) 09:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Fun Fact: the german version of Anti-de Sitter space in wikipedia refers to a [Randall–Sundrum model|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall%E2%80%93Sundrum_model]<br />
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"...less than 180° in a full rotation"<br />
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Shouldn't this be either "...less than 360° in a full rotation" (or perhaps "...the angles of a triangle add up to less than 180°").<br />
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I've started to explain the title-text, but not well. I don't really understand either of these concepts.</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=3077:_de_Sitter&diff=3732263077: de Sitter2025-04-17T09:58:50Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Explanation */</p>
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An {{w|anti-de Sitter space}} is a space which has hyperbolic (negative) spatial curvature, in which there are less than 180° in a full rotation and two parallel lines will diverge when extended. This is in contrast to a {{w|de Sitter space}} which has elliptic (positive) curvature, more than 180° in a triangle, and two parallel lines will meet. The caption "My house is an anti-de Sitter space" refers instead to their house being against the actual physicist {{w|Willem de Sitter}} which both spatial geometries are named after, because the speaker themselves forbids de Sitter from entering their house.<br />
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The title-text refers to "conformal field theory". Anti-de Sitter space is a theoretical space with weird curves and extra dimensions. Conformal Field Theory is a set of rules for how tiny particles behave on boundaries. So the ideas of conformal field theory and Anti-de Sitter space are closely linked. For everything in Anti-de Sitter space has a parallel in conformal field theory.<br />
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:[A note taped to a closed door:]<br />
:20th century Dutch physicist Willem de Sitter is '''''not''''' welcome here<br />
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:My house is an anti-de Sitter space.<br />
{{comic discussion}}</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=373112User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-16T10:17:21Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Creating pages. */</p>
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<div>So originally, this had just been flooded with me trying to tell people wrong information, and then telling them stuff that they already knew. So I've decided to just start over again. If your comment(s) were deleted, I don't mean any offense, I just wanted to start over again.<br />
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So, with that over, welcome to my talk page! You can ask me any questions or whatever, just use it as a normal discussion page. --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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== Creating pages. ==<br />
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Hi again (and, as someone who was deleted in your start-over, yup, that was fine...). Just want to repeat (then exand upon) something I said on a User page that you created. i.e. that anybody who hasn't got a User page, and has been around a while, ''probably'' isn't looking to get one. And, as you have discovered, anyone too new to create their own can always ask for it. It is good that you're now have page-creation rights, but best not to do that too much (if at all) until you have a bit more experience behind you. There are many cases where pages have to be marked for deletion (not that they get deleted very quickly, but the intent is valid) that might have been better not to have been made real in the first place.<br />
<br/>If in doubt, you could always ask. But, as far as User (and User Talk) pages, there's nothing wrong with redtext links in Talk comment signatures.<br />
<br/>Elsewhere, the problem is probably with the link being wrong, if red, but it's also usually not a good reason to create a page 'begging' to exist in this way. Best to suggest something new (e.g. a new comic category), rather than add its markup and create the page from there. Get to know the standards and conventions a bit more. There are plenty of regular long-term users who can either advise you or even do the job in a way that works both for you and how things work. Counting just the ''named'' ones, that is, as I (nameless IP) can only do the advising bit, like now... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.57|172.70.162.57]] 15:24, 15 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Where, exactly, would one find a citation that mobile phones are not known to trap insects? Is the "citation needed" meant to be funny? It's like making the statement that humans aren't entirely made of glass- who would bother to write anything that could serve as a citation for that? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.139|172.69.68.139]] 22:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's a running joke on ExplainXKCD. See [[Wikipedian Protester#Trivia]]. {{User:PoolloverNathan/Signature}} 15:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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14:14, 4 August 2014 (UTC) Mobile phones haven't always been electronic. Remember the old 'bricks' from the '80s and '90s? More machine than computer.<br />
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This seems like an SCP artifact [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.220|108.162.249.220]] 10:09, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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^someone get on this, please [[User:Whiskey07|Whiskey07]] ([[User talk:Whiskey07|talk]]) 16:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I really dislike the tone of the explanation. I mean it's so negative about the features! Not that they are all useful, but isn't this a wiki and should be neutral? It takes also the fun out of it. I would like a screaming while falling phone and the relativity thing would be great for teaching relativity! [[User:RecentlyChanged|RecentlyChanged]] ([[User talk:RecentlyChanged|talk]])<br />
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Where can i get one of these? :D [[User:UniTrader|UniTrader]] ([[User talk:UniTrader|talk]]) 04:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I'm pretty sure the "scream when falling" thing and the "flightaware" stuff can be done somehow with Tasker. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.103.206|141.101.103.206]] 04:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I suspect it was either Black Hat or Beret Guy, but I'm not sure which. A collaboration? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.45|173.245.54.45]] 04:47, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This sounds like something straight out of aperture. {{unsigned ip|108.162.221.55}}<br />
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;Simulates alternate speeds of light<br />
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Yes, useless as a feature on all the time; but it would be a cool app. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 05:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Absolutely. Where can I get an app like that?[[Special:Contributions/108.162.225.157|108.162.225.157]] 06:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Here: [http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pandorica.xkcdclock XKCD Clock] [[Special:Contributions/173.245.53.114|173.245.53.114]] 16:11, 7 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Travelling at above the simulated speed of light should give an imaginary time dilation, not a negative time dilation.<br />
gamma = 1/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}<br />
Thus, after such travel, the value of the clock would be a complex number. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.35|108.162.219.35]] 15:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Does the alternate speed of light simulator also dynamically adjust the mass of the phone? Better yet, does it also dynamically adjust the mass of its comoving surroundings (person holding phone, vehicle phone is traveling in)?[[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.27|172.69.23.27]] 01:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:You guys should probably clarify that the relativisic affects actually depend on how long your trip is or how long you wait to sync your phone. For relativity to be observable on a 12 hour trip, Minimum speed for a phone would have to be 300 m/s or 3000 m/s for the clock to measure even a microsecond/millisecond difference in time. This is well known thanks to the certain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation#Velocity_and_gravitational_time_dilation_combined-effect_tests time dilation experiments with planes]. Your GPS chip helps account for an error of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_analysis_for_the_Global_Positioning_System#Relativity 7 to 47 microseconds per day]. My point is in terms of time dilation, relativity mattering depends on how long a trip or waiting for synchronization is. By synching, I literally mean with the atomic time clock or with a GPS satellite. The synchronization of your phone with satellites is actually a couple of hundred microseconds, so normally even a light changing clock might not have as noticable changes as you might think. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.225|108.162.238.225]] 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC) --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.225|108.162.238.225]] 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
Yeah sorry forgot to login. does anyone know how to do the indices formatting other than eg 2.99x10(littlex) rather then 2.99x10^x? [[User:Jonv4n|Jonv4n]] ([[User talk:Jonv4n|talk]]) 06:29, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
: Whas<sup>sup</sup>? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.89.220|141.101.89.220]] 07:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not a physicist but the above explanation says that relativistic time dilation affects only occur at a significant fraction of the speed of light. It is my understanding that time dilation occurs at any speed, but is only perceptible/noticeable/measurable at very large fraction of the speed of light. Unless I'm mistaken the above it should reflect this. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.91|173.245.56.91]] 22:24, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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First time poster, please forgive my transgressions :)<br />
My understanding regarding relativistic effects is that, for a given frame of reference (e.g. phone operator travelling at 0.9c) would be absolutely none. Relativistic effects (as I understand them) would only apply between two different frames of reference. The only effect I can see in this case is if you are moving towards, or away from the phone while operating, and red/blue shift of the radio frequencies. In general, wifi and bluetooth are used locally so wouldn't apply; only the phone network would be affected.<br />
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Also, perhaps the adjustable speed of light is a reference to the the game "A slower speed of light" by MIT Game Lab http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/ (in which you walk around collecting objects; each object slows light down, and increases relativistic effects).<br />
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'''Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal.'''<br />
Funnier if you take it as a reference to the [http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/04/07/mazda_issues_recall_because_spiders_invade_fuel_tank_causing_fire_risk.html spider problems] Mazda keeps on having... {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.64}}<br />
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About the attracting insects ... I would expect this to be normal feature in night. Trapping, however ... -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 09:08, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
: There are other indications that the phone is at least partly biological, this being the strongest evidence of that. Insects could be the power source for the biological part(s). [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.45|173.245.54.45]] 14:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This could also be a reference to computer bugs and the [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:H96566k.jpg Harvard Mark II]. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.249|199.27.128.249]] 08:31, 15 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Could the Siri bit be a reference to Portal? When I first read it, I remembered this GLaDOS quote: "Your Aperture Science Weighted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and in fact cannot speak. If your Weighted Companion Cube does speak, please disregard its advice." Could be completely wrong; just a thought. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.51|173.245.54.51]] 10:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Perhaps Siri is beling likened to the "ATMOS" device in the Doctor Who episode "The Sontaran Stratagem" [[User:Esp666|Esp666]] ([[User talk:Esp666|talk]]) 11:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Lamest. Comic. Ever. And I'm not just saying that because he doesn't mention the Ubuntu Touch OS. ''– [[User:Tbc|tbc]] ([[User talk:Tbc|talk]]) 12:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)''<br />
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'''Realistic case'''<br />
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Car telephones and the first cellphones were rather expensive, at least in Germany fake "realistic cases" were sold without any working electronics in it. Usage was to impress silly friends. {{unsigned ip|173.245.52.204}}<br />
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I thought this was aimed at the iPhone. Apparently these have an elegant case, but I have never actually seen one. Everyone I know covers their iPhone with some hideous plastic monstrosity, since the design is not practical.--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.59|108.162.218.59]] 14:10, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Could possibly be a reference to the "Realistic" brand, which was used on various products sold by Radio Shack (U.S. electronics retail chain) from 1954 to some time in the '90s.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.76|108.162.219.76]] 16:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I am not a native speaker of English. I thought the joke was on the double meaning of "case", meaning both "something that happened or might happen" (like "realistic scenario") and "something that covers something else". Does that make sense to you guys? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.17|108.162.219.17]] 10:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Screaming when in free fall: my first Android app!'''<br />
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I love the bit about screaming when in free fall: that was the first Android app I hacked together back in 2009 (based on the tricorder app). [[User:Nealmcb|Nealmcb]] ([[User talk:Nealmcb|talk]]) 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I actually made this app that simulates that [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.siluxmedia.frefall freeFall app][[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.32|108.162.212.32]] 19:03, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Hover-over title text was truncated; love it.<br />
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: you must have an really old firefox browser -- you should update !!! [[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.210|199.27.130.210]] 16:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:: Happened to me. Using whatever the latest IE is at the moment. It cut off at nause-. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Price includes 2-year Knicks contract.''' ... but a contract with the Knicks would only appeal to pro basketball players.<br />
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Nonsense. Lots of "regular" folks would buy this phone it it meant they got to play in the NBA. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.84|199.27.128.84]] 16:26, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: I agree with this. A whole lot of people who think they have "skillz" would buy the phone if they got into the NBA. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:14, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This may also be an indirect way of stating that it is incredibly expensive, seeing as those sort of contracts usually involve ''you'' getting compensated. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.33|108.162.216.33]] 13:41, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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"Your mobile world just went digital" is an inversion of the marketing-speak that was common when what we'd now regard as smartphones first began to be adopted by the mainstream (iPhone/G1 era, since Symbians, Blackberries, and early WinMo tended to be business or enthusiast devices). People already ubiquitously e-mailed, browsed the Web, etc...what was presented as 'new' was that you could now do it from your phone. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.58|173.245.54.58]] 19:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I think the "Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God" statement might be a reference to how transmitting devices have to comply with FCC regulation and not interfere with aircraft or government communications. Perhaps this phone is intended to be noncompliant so as to control high-level electronics, even at supernatural levels. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.66|173.245.56.66]] 21:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)Dbrak<br />
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'''Frictionless''' <br />
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You could hold a frictionless phone just by hooking your little finger under the bottom edge, regardless of friction gravity will hold it into your hand. Just like you could leave it in a bowl without it jumping out. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.72|108.162.229.72]] 19:12, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Unless you held your pinky perfectly balanced, horizontal and motionless, a frictionless object would slide right off it, as it would off any flat surface that is not perfectly horizontal.<br />
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Wouldn't you be able to hold it somewhat like a normal phone, if you hold a finger under the bottom of it? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:08, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Saying a frictionless phone can't be held is like saying prisoners would slide out of prisons if they had frictionless surfaces. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.218|108.162.237.218]] 14:50, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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If it was frictionless, it would be only slightly harder to hold than a wet bar of soap. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.186|108.162.219.186]] 22:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think it would be a lot harder than that. <span style="text-shadow:0 0 6px black">[[User:Beanie|<span style="font-size:11pt;color:#dddddd">Beanie</span>]]</span> <sup><span style="text-shadow:0 0 3px #000000">[[User talk:Beanie|<span style="font-size:8pt;color:#dddddd">talk</span>]]</span></sup> 13:44, 7 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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;Why the hell this funny phone isn't available at the xkcd store?<br />
I would buy if the price would be in the range of other articles there. Just for fun...--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:30, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, having a phone that causes symptoms of radiation poisoning would be very funny indeed. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.10.44|172.68.10.44]] 11:03, 16 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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'''Root needed'''<br />
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I think that needing root for ajust the volume may be a allusion people needing to root Android to change fonts or to take screenshots (untill version 4.x). [[User:FlavianusEP|FlavianusEP]] ([[User talk:FlavianusEP|talk]]) 23:04, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Or does volume refer to the overall size of the phone? {{unsigned ip|141.101.77.252}}<br />
:Probably not. It sufficiently works as humour in the original sense not to want to stretch (NPI!) the reference further.<br />
:PS, I de-edited FlavianusEP's thing. There was no reason to edit that. And, if you did, you could have made it grammatical too. "...needing root '''to''' a'''d'''just the volume...", not just the typo.<br />
:And I also credited you with your unsigned ip, which you forgot to provide yourself. Consider it the Pedant's Curse. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.121|172.70.90.121]] 23:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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'''Alternative meaning: The spirit of xkcd'''<br />
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I think there's a secondary possible interpretation for this comic -- that the various features of the phone represent the overall "spirit" or "attitude" of xkcd, in a way reminiscent of an early strip -- http://xkcd.com/207/ -- about "what xkcd means." More specifically, a common theme in xkcd is taking advanced concepts in science and technology, and applying them to whimsical, humorous, impractical, or outright impossible uses. Several of phone's features -- such as the simulated speed of light -- touch on the same theme. Wordplay, another common xkcd theme, is present as well; and the anthropomorphism of technology, along with making devices appear 'cute', is also present, and also is something that has come up in xkcd many times in the past.<br />
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The comic is called "xkcd Phone", after all -- I think simultaneously with being a parody of phone advertisements, the comic is also meant to show us what a phone that fits into the xkcd world would be like. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.114|108.162.241.114]] 17:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I agree; it seems like a basic comic at first glance, but I'm wondering if there's a meta-meaning if you put all of the pieces together. Each feature, and warning, is a clue to the overarching purpose of the phone, or to the true joke that this phone embodies. [[User:Imtrbl|imtrbl]] ([[User talk:Imtrbl|talk]]) 19:11, 8 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Blowing out candles....'''<br />
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For the birthday candles thing: I do remember seeing a video ad for an app back when the iphone was first opened up to outside developers that would turn the phone into a fan, and it demonstrated that it was strong enough to blow out a birthday candle. Seemed quite useless at the time. Still does today for that matter {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.47}}<br />
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'''Side-facing camera'''<br />
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I thought the joke here was that the camera ''only'' contained a side-facing camera rather than a side camera in addition to a front and back camera. While you can see the camera on the side, you don't see a camera on the front and they don't talk about a rear camera. It'd be pretty annoying to use a side-facing camera for anything but the surreptitious case you described. [[User:S|S]] ([[User talk:S|talk]]) 16:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Do not submerge in water'''<br />
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I assumed this was also referencing the 4chan, etc pranks with the waterproof iPhone [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.79|173.245.55.79]] 18:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Wireless'''<br />
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A completely wireless phone would not be unuseable. The only wire phones need nowadays is for recharging their battery, but this can be done by induction, like with the Qi system with which some Nokia and Google (Nexus) phones are compatible. [[User:Zoyd|Zoyd]] ([[User talk:Zoyd|talk]]) 12:25, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''FoxTrot reference?''' I think this one could be a reference to th J-Pad in the foxtrot webcomic http://www.foxtrot.com/2012/03/03042012/ . Foxtrot's author has already published a guest comic for XKCD a few years ago, so Randall should know about it. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.203|108.162.212.203]] 16:31, 11 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Cell Phones Cure Cancer?'''<br />
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I know, I know, the editor who added "makes fun of the WHO claiming that cell phones might cause cancer despite huge studies showing the opposite" probably didn't mean that, but it's kind of amusing to interpret it that way. [[User:Nyperold|Nyperold]] ([[User talk:Nyperold|talk]]) 19:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Some fake phones actually feature things like that. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubd2dX0YeSI this]. It does have a rear cam, but no front-facing one. [[User:Real English|Real English]] ([[User talk:Real English|talk]]) 15:41, 24 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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"Prolonged use may cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, or seizures" could also be referencing the adverse health effects commonly associated with spending too much time using a smartphone. Mood swings could be caused by the bewildering variety of content found on social media apps, which could result in the user's mood changing rapidly as they browse through unrelated topics that influence the way they feel. Short-term memory loss could be attributed to the fact that many users rely on their smartphones to take notes and set reminders. If a person depends almost solely on their phone to remember things for them, their short-term memory may degrade over time due to disuse. I don't know how seizures fits into this analogy, but it might've been included for the reasons described in the main explanation page. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.77|172.69.33.77]] 20:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Is this officially the longest title text record in XKCD? [[User:Xnerkcd|Xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 09:59, 12 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:That's interesting! it might be. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 10:42, 12 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Wait! Look at comic number 1311! That's a longer title-text! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 09:38, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1363:_xkcd_Phone&diff=373028Talk:1363: xkcd Phone2025-04-15T09:37:48Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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Where, exactly, would one find a citation that mobile phones are not known to trap insects? Is the "citation needed" meant to be funny? It's like making the statement that humans aren't entirely made of glass- who would bother to write anything that could serve as a citation for that? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.139|172.69.68.139]] 22:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's a running joke on ExplainXKCD. See [[Wikipedian Protester#Trivia]]. {{User:PoolloverNathan/Signature}} 15:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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14:14, 4 August 2014 (UTC) Mobile phones haven't always been electronic. Remember the old 'bricks' from the '80s and '90s? More machine than computer.<br />
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This seems like an SCP artifact [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.220|108.162.249.220]] 10:09, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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^someone get on this, please [[User:Whiskey07|Whiskey07]] ([[User talk:Whiskey07|talk]]) 16:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I really dislike the tone of the explanation. I mean it's so negative about the features! Not that they are all useful, but isn't this a wiki and should be neutral? It takes also the fun out of it. I would like a screaming while falling phone and the relativity thing would be great for teaching relativity! [[User:RecentlyChanged|RecentlyChanged]] ([[User talk:RecentlyChanged|talk]])<br />
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Where can i get one of these? :D [[User:UniTrader|UniTrader]] ([[User talk:UniTrader|talk]]) 04:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I'm pretty sure the "scream when falling" thing and the "flightaware" stuff can be done somehow with Tasker. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.103.206|141.101.103.206]] 04:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I suspect it was either Black Hat or Beret Guy, but I'm not sure which. A collaboration? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.45|173.245.54.45]] 04:47, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This sounds like something straight out of aperture. {{unsigned ip|108.162.221.55}}<br />
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Yes, useless as a feature on all the time; but it would be a cool app. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 05:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Absolutely. Where can I get an app like that?[[Special:Contributions/108.162.225.157|108.162.225.157]] 06:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Here: [http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pandorica.xkcdclock XKCD Clock] [[Special:Contributions/173.245.53.114|173.245.53.114]] 16:11, 7 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Travelling at above the simulated speed of light should give an imaginary time dilation, not a negative time dilation.<br />
gamma = 1/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}<br />
Thus, after such travel, the value of the clock would be a complex number. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.35|108.162.219.35]] 15:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Does the alternate speed of light simulator also dynamically adjust the mass of the phone? Better yet, does it also dynamically adjust the mass of its comoving surroundings (person holding phone, vehicle phone is traveling in)?[[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.27|172.69.23.27]] 01:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:You guys should probably clarify that the relativisic affects actually depend on how long your trip is or how long you wait to sync your phone. For relativity to be observable on a 12 hour trip, Minimum speed for a phone would have to be 300 m/s or 3000 m/s for the clock to measure even a microsecond/millisecond difference in time. This is well known thanks to the certain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation#Velocity_and_gravitational_time_dilation_combined-effect_tests time dilation experiments with planes]. Your GPS chip helps account for an error of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_analysis_for_the_Global_Positioning_System#Relativity 7 to 47 microseconds per day]. My point is in terms of time dilation, relativity mattering depends on how long a trip or waiting for synchronization is. By synching, I literally mean with the atomic time clock or with a GPS satellite. The synchronization of your phone with satellites is actually a couple of hundred microseconds, so normally even a light changing clock might not have as noticable changes as you might think. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.225|108.162.238.225]] 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC) --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.225|108.162.238.225]] 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
Yeah sorry forgot to login. does anyone know how to do the indices formatting other than eg 2.99x10(littlex) rather then 2.99x10^x? [[User:Jonv4n|Jonv4n]] ([[User talk:Jonv4n|talk]]) 06:29, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
: Whas<sup>sup</sup>? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.89.220|141.101.89.220]] 07:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not a physicist but the above explanation says that relativistic time dilation affects only occur at a significant fraction of the speed of light. It is my understanding that time dilation occurs at any speed, but is only perceptible/noticeable/measurable at very large fraction of the speed of light. Unless I'm mistaken the above it should reflect this. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.91|173.245.56.91]] 22:24, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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First time poster, please forgive my transgressions :)<br />
My understanding regarding relativistic effects is that, for a given frame of reference (e.g. phone operator travelling at 0.9c) would be absolutely none. Relativistic effects (as I understand them) would only apply between two different frames of reference. The only effect I can see in this case is if you are moving towards, or away from the phone while operating, and red/blue shift of the radio frequencies. In general, wifi and bluetooth are used locally so wouldn't apply; only the phone network would be affected.<br />
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Also, perhaps the adjustable speed of light is a reference to the the game "A slower speed of light" by MIT Game Lab http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/ (in which you walk around collecting objects; each object slows light down, and increases relativistic effects).<br />
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'''Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal.'''<br />
Funnier if you take it as a reference to the [http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/04/07/mazda_issues_recall_because_spiders_invade_fuel_tank_causing_fire_risk.html spider problems] Mazda keeps on having... {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.64}}<br />
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About the attracting insects ... I would expect this to be normal feature in night. Trapping, however ... -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 09:08, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
: There are other indications that the phone is at least partly biological, this being the strongest evidence of that. Insects could be the power source for the biological part(s). [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.45|173.245.54.45]] 14:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This could also be a reference to computer bugs and the [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:H96566k.jpg Harvard Mark II]. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.249|199.27.128.249]] 08:31, 15 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Could the Siri bit be a reference to Portal? When I first read it, I remembered this GLaDOS quote: "Your Aperture Science Weighted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and in fact cannot speak. If your Weighted Companion Cube does speak, please disregard its advice." Could be completely wrong; just a thought. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.51|173.245.54.51]] 10:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Perhaps Siri is beling likened to the "ATMOS" device in the Doctor Who episode "The Sontaran Stratagem" [[User:Esp666|Esp666]] ([[User talk:Esp666|talk]]) 11:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Lamest. Comic. Ever. And I'm not just saying that because he doesn't mention the Ubuntu Touch OS. ''– [[User:Tbc|tbc]] ([[User talk:Tbc|talk]]) 12:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)''<br />
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'''Realistic case'''<br />
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Car telephones and the first cellphones were rather expensive, at least in Germany fake "realistic cases" were sold without any working electronics in it. Usage was to impress silly friends. {{unsigned ip|173.245.52.204}}<br />
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I thought this was aimed at the iPhone. Apparently these have an elegant case, but I have never actually seen one. Everyone I know covers their iPhone with some hideous plastic monstrosity, since the design is not practical.--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.59|108.162.218.59]] 14:10, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Could possibly be a reference to the "Realistic" brand, which was used on various products sold by Radio Shack (U.S. electronics retail chain) from 1954 to some time in the '90s.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.76|108.162.219.76]] 16:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I am not a native speaker of English. I thought the joke was on the double meaning of "case", meaning both "something that happened or might happen" (like "realistic scenario") and "something that covers something else". Does that make sense to you guys? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.17|108.162.219.17]] 10:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Screaming when in free fall: my first Android app!'''<br />
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I love the bit about screaming when in free fall: that was the first Android app I hacked together back in 2009 (based on the tricorder app). [[User:Nealmcb|Nealmcb]] ([[User talk:Nealmcb|talk]]) 13:49, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I actually made this app that simulates that [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.siluxmedia.frefall freeFall app][[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.32|108.162.212.32]] 19:03, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Hover-over title text was truncated; love it.<br />
14:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[[User:Pocono Chuck|Pocono Chuck]] ([[User talk:Pocono Chuck|talk]])<br />
: you must have an really old firefox browser -- you should update !!! [[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.210|199.27.130.210]] 16:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:: Happened to me. Using whatever the latest IE is at the moment. It cut off at nause-. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Price includes 2-year Knicks contract.''' ... but a contract with the Knicks would only appeal to pro basketball players.<br />
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Nonsense. Lots of "regular" folks would buy this phone it it meant they got to play in the NBA. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.84|199.27.128.84]] 16:26, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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: I agree with this. A whole lot of people who think they have "skillz" would buy the phone if they got into the NBA. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:14, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This may also be an indirect way of stating that it is incredibly expensive, seeing as those sort of contracts usually involve ''you'' getting compensated. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.33|108.162.216.33]] 13:41, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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"Your mobile world just went digital" is an inversion of the marketing-speak that was common when what we'd now regard as smartphones first began to be adopted by the mainstream (iPhone/G1 era, since Symbians, Blackberries, and early WinMo tended to be business or enthusiast devices). People already ubiquitously e-mailed, browsed the Web, etc...what was presented as 'new' was that you could now do it from your phone. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.58|173.245.54.58]] 19:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I think the "Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God" statement might be a reference to how transmitting devices have to comply with FCC regulation and not interfere with aircraft or government communications. Perhaps this phone is intended to be noncompliant so as to control high-level electronics, even at supernatural levels. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.66|173.245.56.66]] 21:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)Dbrak<br />
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'''Frictionless''' <br />
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You could hold a frictionless phone just by hooking your little finger under the bottom edge, regardless of friction gravity will hold it into your hand. Just like you could leave it in a bowl without it jumping out. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.72|108.162.229.72]] 19:12, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Unless you held your pinky perfectly balanced, horizontal and motionless, a frictionless object would slide right off it, as it would off any flat surface that is not perfectly horizontal.<br />
14:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.242.4|108.162.242.4]] 13:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)DCollins<br />
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Wouldn't you be able to hold it somewhat like a normal phone, if you hold a finger under the bottom of it? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.54|173.245.54.54]] 17:08, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Saying a frictionless phone can't be held is like saying prisoners would slide out of prisons if they had frictionless surfaces. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.218|108.162.237.218]] 14:50, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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If it was frictionless, it would be only slightly harder to hold than a wet bar of soap. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.186|108.162.219.186]] 22:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think it would be a lot harder than that. <span style="text-shadow:0 0 6px black">[[User:Beanie|<span style="font-size:11pt;color:#dddddd">Beanie</span>]]</span> <sup><span style="text-shadow:0 0 3px #000000">[[User talk:Beanie|<span style="font-size:8pt;color:#dddddd">talk</span>]]</span></sup> 13:44, 7 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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;Why the hell this funny phone isn't available at the xkcd store?<br />
I would buy if the price would be in the range of other articles there. Just for fun...--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:30, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, having a phone that causes symptoms of radiation poisoning would be very funny indeed. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.10.44|172.68.10.44]] 11:03, 16 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I think that needing root for ajust the volume may be a allusion people needing to root Android to change fonts or to take screenshots (untill version 4.x). [[User:FlavianusEP|FlavianusEP]] ([[User talk:FlavianusEP|talk]]) 23:04, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Or does volume refer to the overall size of the phone? {{unsigned ip|141.101.77.252}}<br />
:Probably not. It sufficiently works as humour in the original sense not to want to stretch (NPI!) the reference further.<br />
:PS, I de-edited FlavianusEP's thing. There was no reason to edit that. And, if you did, you could have made it grammatical too. "...needing root '''to''' a'''d'''just the volume...", not just the typo.<br />
:And I also credited you with your unsigned ip, which you forgot to provide yourself. Consider it the Pedant's Curse. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.121|172.70.90.121]] 23:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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'''Alternative meaning: The spirit of xkcd'''<br />
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I think there's a secondary possible interpretation for this comic -- that the various features of the phone represent the overall "spirit" or "attitude" of xkcd, in a way reminiscent of an early strip -- http://xkcd.com/207/ -- about "what xkcd means." More specifically, a common theme in xkcd is taking advanced concepts in science and technology, and applying them to whimsical, humorous, impractical, or outright impossible uses. Several of phone's features -- such as the simulated speed of light -- touch on the same theme. Wordplay, another common xkcd theme, is present as well; and the anthropomorphism of technology, along with making devices appear 'cute', is also present, and also is something that has come up in xkcd many times in the past.<br />
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The comic is called "xkcd Phone", after all -- I think simultaneously with being a parody of phone advertisements, the comic is also meant to show us what a phone that fits into the xkcd world would be like. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.114|108.162.241.114]] 17:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I agree; it seems like a basic comic at first glance, but I'm wondering if there's a meta-meaning if you put all of the pieces together. Each feature, and warning, is a clue to the overarching purpose of the phone, or to the true joke that this phone embodies. [[User:Imtrbl|imtrbl]] ([[User talk:Imtrbl|talk]]) 19:11, 8 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Blowing out candles....'''<br />
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For the birthday candles thing: I do remember seeing a video ad for an app back when the iphone was first opened up to outside developers that would turn the phone into a fan, and it demonstrated that it was strong enough to blow out a birthday candle. Seemed quite useless at the time. Still does today for that matter {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.47}}<br />
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I thought the joke here was that the camera ''only'' contained a side-facing camera rather than a side camera in addition to a front and back camera. While you can see the camera on the side, you don't see a camera on the front and they don't talk about a rear camera. It'd be pretty annoying to use a side-facing camera for anything but the surreptitious case you described. [[User:S|S]] ([[User talk:S|talk]]) 16:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I assumed this was also referencing the 4chan, etc pranks with the waterproof iPhone [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.79|173.245.55.79]] 18:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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A completely wireless phone would not be unuseable. The only wire phones need nowadays is for recharging their battery, but this can be done by induction, like with the Qi system with which some Nokia and Google (Nexus) phones are compatible. [[User:Zoyd|Zoyd]] ([[User talk:Zoyd|talk]]) 12:25, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''FoxTrot reference?''' I think this one could be a reference to th J-Pad in the foxtrot webcomic http://www.foxtrot.com/2012/03/03042012/ . Foxtrot's author has already published a guest comic for XKCD a few years ago, so Randall should know about it. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.203|108.162.212.203]] 16:31, 11 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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'''Cell Phones Cure Cancer?'''<br />
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I know, I know, the editor who added "makes fun of the WHO claiming that cell phones might cause cancer despite huge studies showing the opposite" probably didn't mean that, but it's kind of amusing to interpret it that way. [[User:Nyperold|Nyperold]] ([[User talk:Nyperold|talk]]) 19:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Some fake phones actually feature things like that. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubd2dX0YeSI this]. It does have a rear cam, but no front-facing one. [[User:Real English|Real English]] ([[User talk:Real English|talk]]) 15:41, 24 August 2020 (UTC)<br />
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"Prolonged use may cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, or seizures" could also be referencing the adverse health effects commonly associated with spending too much time using a smartphone. Mood swings could be caused by the bewildering variety of content found on social media apps, which could result in the user's mood changing rapidly as they browse through unrelated topics that influence the way they feel. Short-term memory loss could be attributed to the fact that many users rely on their smartphones to take notes and set reminders. If a person depends almost solely on their phone to remember things for them, their short-term memory may degrade over time due to disuse. I don't know how seizures fits into this analogy, but it might've been included for the reasons described in the main explanation page. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.77|172.69.33.77]] 20:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Is this officially the longest title text record in XKCD? [[User:Xnerkcd|Xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 09:59, 12 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:That's interesting! it might be. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 10:42, 12 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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I believe I've set some more nerds on a pointless mission again...[[User:Xnerkcd|&#60;b&#62;&#60;i&#62;xnerkcd&#60;/b&#62;&#60;/i&#62;]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 06:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Wait! Look at [[xkcd|1311|number 1311: 2014!]] That's a longer title-text!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sqrt-1&diff=373026User talk:Sqrt-12025-04-15T09:31:45Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Creating blank pages */</p>
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My signature = (<span> — [[User:Sqrt-1|The <b>𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">stalk</span>]]</sup></span>)<br />
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:So do I. how did you get the tumbleweed, and are there any others? [[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]] ([[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]])<br />
::It was originally from [https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Main_Page Uncyclopedia], but are now used in many other wikis as a form of joke. [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_scientifically_controlled_double_blind_studies_which_have_conclusively_demonstrated_the_efficacy_of_homeopathy like here]. Since I am talentless at actually explaining xkcd (which is what this wiki is about), I do other things to give myself the illusion of actually contributing to this wiki. I don't understand what you mean by "are there any others". I am also at other wikis, small or big, and they too use it, so I added it here.<span> — [[User:Sqrt-1|The <b>𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">stalk</span>]]</sup></span> 03:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Are there any other templates is what I was asking [[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]] ([[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]])<br />
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Did you create those templates? (crickets, rw, troll, etc.) If so, how do I create one (is it even possible) [[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]] ([[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]]) 16:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I did create those templates, and it is pretty easy to make one. For example the citation needed template: (<sup>&#91;[[285: Wikipedian Protester|''citation needed'']]&#93;</sup>) In order to use this text many times, instead of typing the wikitext code and all the syntax for it, you can simply create a template of it ([[Template:Citation needed]]). See the Wikipedia page explaining wiki templates: {{w|Wikipedia:Templates}}<br />
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==SWOTI==<br />
You said on your [[User:Sqrt-1|page]] you have SWOTI syndrome. May I assume you are referencing [[SWOTI Syndrome]]? <span style="background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(left, grey, white); border-radius: 5px; font-family:cursive; color: blue;"><i><b>-[[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]]</b></i><sup>[[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]]</sup></span><br />
:yes, that syndrome. (PS: it’s SIWOTI syndrome, not SWOTI syndrome)<span> — [[User:Sqrt-1|The <b>𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">stalk</span>]]</sup></span> 12:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Oh wutever<span style="background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(left, grey, white); border-radius: 5px; font-family:cursive; color: blue;"><i><b>-[[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]]</b></i><sup>[[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]]</sup></span><br />
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== Creating blank pages ==<br />
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Please don't create blank pages, especially other people's userpages, just because you have a personal dislike of redlinks. --[[User:V2Blast|V2Blast]] ([[User talk:V2Blast|talk]]) 20:38, 25 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
: :( <span> — [[User:Sqrt-1|The <b>𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">stalk</span>]]</sup></span> 17:04, 31 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
:New users can't make them on their own, so they should be made... but alright...<br />
::can you create mine? -[[User:Bb777|Bb777]] ([[User talk:Bb777|talk]])<br />
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How do you make your signature weird like that? I know how to change it, but I thought that signatures weren't affected by wiki formatting. --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 09:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2862&diff=37302528622025-04-15T09:11:52Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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EDIT: This is not spam. Again: please don't hurt me</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:FaviFake&diff=373024User talk:FaviFake2025-04-15T09:10:19Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* User page creation */</p>
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== Objects table ==<br />
Thanks for replying. The current table in the main text looks good, but still it is a ''description'' or just ''enumeration'' of game objects, not an ''explanation'' (or in some cases: partly an explanation). Supposing we keep the current structure, it is possible to add explanations for the planet names in the '''Explanation''' column. For example, first sentence of the second paragraph is a good ''explanation'' for the Uzumaki planet's name. On the other hand, Andal has only a ''description'' (what it looks like and what features are present on the surface) and no ''explanation'' (that it refers to Animorphs series of books). There's also a question where one should put explanations of items and messages. Some do not need an explanation ('You found a stick'), but most do: what they mean and what they refer to, both in xkcd context (such as when there's a comic about the thing) and in general context. I hope you understand the difference between ''description'' and ''explanation''. Maybe there's also some misunderstanding resulting from a language barrier; English is not my native language.<br />
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What is also missing in the table are many structures or objects found on the planets and, most importantly, dialogues or monologous of the characters, which contain many puns and references, and also hints for the player. There's simply no place for them in the current structure. Making more columns may be messsy. That's why I proposed making several tables covering different aspects.<br />
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Please take my remarks as proposals to improve the structure and not as a criticism or request for you to make everything right and fill every cell of the table. I think we need to create a clear structure for everyone else to fill in with details; but also to provide good examples to follow.<br />
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Technical remarks:<br />
* In my opinion, the filename column is not needed, it does not appear anywhere while playing, it's in source code only. Better remove it to have more horizontal space for the rest. The names given to the planets by the editors of the explanation page shown in the Description column are fine.<br />
* Coordinates are also not useful for a regular player, who does not use some Javascript addition/cheats, maybe remove it as well; textual directions in '''Explanation''' column are sufficient.<br />
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-- [[User:Malgond|Malgond]] ([[User talk:Malgond|talk]]) 19:59, 2 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
:> Thanks for replying. The current table in the main text looks good, but still it is a ''description'' or just ''enumeration'' of game objects, not an ''explanation'' (or in some cases: partly an explanation). Supposing we keep the current structure, it is possible to add explanations for the planet names in the '''Explanation''' column. For example, first sentence of the second paragraph is a good ''explanation'' for the Uzumaki planet's name. On the other hand, Andal has only a ''description'' (what it looks like and what features are present on the surface) and no ''explanation'' (that it refers to Animorphs series of books).<br />
:Hey! Yeah, that's the state of the table ''right now'', and I 100% percent agree with everything you're saying here. All planets and items that need an explanation should be explained and not just described. I mostly just copied and pasted the "planet description/explanations" from the old list to the table: creating the table was way more painful than i thought. I was actually surprized to see that nobody explained what Andal referred to, but I don't know anything about it so more knowledgeable people will have to chip in on that<br />
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:>There's also a question where one should put explanations of items and messages. Some do not need an explanation ('You found a stick'), but most do: what they mean and what they refer to, both in xkcd context (such as when there's a comic about the thing) and in general context. I hope you understand the difference between ''description'' and ''explanation''. <br />
:I do! And I wish other people could help here. I'm not sure if you've seen it, but this is the banner i put above the table:<br />
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'''ALL ITEM EXPLANATIONS NEED TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE OLD PLANET LIST TO THE NEW TABLE'''<br><br />
We are currently switching from a disorganized list (below, inside the green banner) to the new organized table, but the explanations for specific items are missing from the new table. Please help by copying the item explanations from the old list and adding them to the new table ''<u>in this format</u>:''<br><br />
<code>The item message &amp;ndash; <nowiki>''Where to find it &amp;ndash; Explanation, such as references etc''</nowiki></code><br><br />
Example: You found a cheese platter (Your tanks recharge faster) &ndash; ''Next to the cell tower &ndash; The cheese is a reference to [https://example.com 1234: Cheese]''<br />
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* upgrades that end in "???" need to be replaced by the exact upgrade message shown to the user.<br />
* the "Tiles (X, Y)" column for planet coordinates is empty<br />
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:As you can see, the explanations should be put right next to the items and messages. Unfortunately no one has started to add them to the table yet<br />
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:> Maybe there's also some misunderstanding resulting from a language barrier; English is not my native language.<br />
:Your English is excellent :)<br />
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:> dialogues or monologous of the characters, which contain many puns and references, and also hints for the player. There's simply no place for them in the current structure. Making more columns may be messsy. That's why I proposed making several tables covering different aspects.<br />
Almost all the dialogues are on the [[2765: Escape Speed/Transcript]] page, so I guess they should be added there. I don't know if they're already here, I haven't looked at it enough<br />
:: The transcript is not the place for explanations. Puns and references shall be explained elsewhere. I continue working on the transcript but there's still quite a way to go. -- [[User:Malgond|Malgond]] ([[User talk:Malgond|talk]]) 5 May 2023<br />
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:> Please take my remarks as proposals to improve the structure and not as a criticism or request for you to make everything right and fill every cell of the table. I think we need to create a clear structure for everyone else to fill in with details; but also to provide good examples to follow.<br />
:Yeah; i totally get everything you said. In my last reply I think I was a bit too rude for some reason, maybe it's because I just finished the table and was tired.<br />
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:>* In my opinion, the filename column is not needed, it does not appear anywhere while playing, it's in source code only. Better remove it to have more horizontal space for the rest. The names given to the planets by the editors of the explanation page shown in the Description column are fine.<br />
:* Coordinates are also not useful for a regular player, who does not use some Javascript addition/cheats, maybe remove it as well; textual directions in '''Explanation''' column are sufficient.<br />
I was heavily inspired by the table in the [[2712: Gravity]] explanation, which included these. I kind of agree that the filename could be removed, and the filenames could be added to the planet name or explanation, i didn't think about that. About the tiles, someone might use them someday, but if the column keeps remaining empty, i don't mind seeing it disappear<br />
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:I really liked your ideas, if you don't mind I'll copy and paste this discussion in the actual comic discussion page and see what others think --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 21:37, 2 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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::Update: I found a way and added all the coordinates, and moved the planet filenames to the Planet Name column to make more space for the other columns :)<br />
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::: Hi, what about dividing planets and objects like in [[User:Malgond/Drafts/Escape_Speed|my experiment]]? There's plenty of horizontal space for explanations and the entries are quite compact vertically. I also think about color-coding the different Types of game objects. -- [[User:Malgond|Malgond]] ([[User talk:Malgond|talk]]) 5 May 2023<br />
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::::Hmm, I think it looks a little messy and maybe too complicated. Do any other comics have two different tables? Also, I'm personally not a fan of mixing items, landscapes, and people. I think most people reading the table are there to get an overview of the planets and what they contain. Do we really have to explain everything in such detail? [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 14:09, 6 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:::::We do not have to follow other explanations too closely, we could use a new form if it seems clearer and better. The current form has no place neither for explaining items nor for dialogues/monologues. More columns could be problematic (specifically in today's world of high and narrow screens of smartphones). Should we explain everything? Well, it us up to collective "us". Personally, I would like someone explain a few puns/dialogues I do not understand.<br />
:::::For now, there's only a handful of people still interested in somehow finishing the explanation for this huge comic. Maybe if we two can agree on some format we could put it in discussion page and ask for votes. (Discussion needs a cleanup, BTW). -- [[User:Malgond|Malgond]] ([[User talk:Malgond|talk]]) 22:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Hey, I'm back. I see you're enhancing your example table, and iI was wondering, do you plan to move your edits to the actual article after you're done and use the test to see how the formatting looks? Isn't it easier to just add them to the main page directly? Just wondering. If you want I can help you port them over :)<br />
:::::Keeping the contents of the table on your talk page and then porting them over afterwards could lead to a loss of information added after you started editing your user page [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 13:11, 13 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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::::::I'm back too. Yes, I intend to put it in the main article, but I am a bit shy to replace a lot of your work; I've asked for opinions in the talk page. Let's see how it sorts out. Maybe someone has a still better idea. -- [[User:Malgond|Malgond]] ([[User talk:Malgond|talk]]) 21:50, 13 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Oh. I think the structure of the current table in the article is better than the one you've been working on: for example, it's easier to sort for items, is more compact, and is just one. Why don't you just add a "transcript" column like the table on [[2712: Gravity]] to put what things and people say, and add the rest of the information on the respective columns? Personally, I think you're making it a little bit too complicated. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:26, 14 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Haltones ==<br />
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"They're not **predominantly** gray, the two main colors are just white and black. Sometimes he uses the gray color just like when he uses any other color" ... It didn't say that they were predominantly grey(/'gray'), any more than it said that they'd be predominently black (as [[:Category:Comics with inverted brightness]], often, in preference to white). The point being that even the most "black and white" images aren't monochrome, but have degrees of grey at the boundaries, with smoothly antialiased boundaries between the full black of the line (or filled area) and the full white of the background (or inverted detail). You'll see this if you zoom in, with your favourite image editor. And very often in images with a default RGB colourspace, even if the effective pallette employed covers just greyscale values. But greys actually do feature a lot, too (often the first choice of non-black-and-white, for slight lessening of prominence, as opposed to 'red pen' ''increased'' visibility). So it's technically inaccurate to describe them as pretty much monochrome. But how to convey this in <...counts...> less than 157ish words? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.173|172.71.242.173]] 16:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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::::"xkcd comics are usually plain, predominantly black-and-white line drawings, but sometimes they make use of hues beyond the usual monochrome colors, even if it is just red-penned annotations.<br />
:I think it's enough, since, even if grey is more used than other non-monochrome colors, I don't believe it's so important that it needs to be included as a "third" main color. If Randall uses many bright colors, that he will obviously also use simpler hues of grey when needed. What do you think? [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:51, 17 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
:Aside from the antialising edging gradient, I just used the Random Page link and landed on [[1301: File Extensions|something with functional greys]], [[734: Outbreak|an unusual use of 'Post-It' yellow]], an unremarkably "just black pen" comic and then [[1788: Barge|more functional grey]]. I'd argue against "monochrome" as a description, as clearly there is more than just #000000 and #FFFFFF, often enough, in an actual fill-colour/broad-brush context. Even if that's #808080 or another no-hue shade. (I was expecting to land on a "grey pen" comic to assess, after enough clicks but, having seen what I got in the random first handful, I saw no need to go on.)<br />
:And "monochrome" can be/often is coloured. Sepia photographs or "night vision" green displays are perfect examples of monochrome (with or without halftones/dithering/whatever). As is [[267: Choices: Part 4]] (other Choices comics may be considered "duotone", in different ways).<br />
:Maybe "...are often drawn as black shapes on white, or occasionally white shapes on a dark background, but may feature at least one additional highlighting shade or an even fuller colour pallette." Does that sufficiently cover that whole breadth of use? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.154|172.70.86.154]] 19:48, 17 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Childish slang. ==<br />
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Agree with you on the recent change that you (generic 'you', not ''you'' 'you'!) sound infantile, any which way, upon use of the words mentioned. Which is how it was still said before the revert in that version of edit. But with <code>"pretty gay" and "retarded" are infantile and offensive slang for "foolish" or "contemptible"</code>, you miss the point. Foolishness is just one distant contender for what "pretty gay" is often intended to mean (even if not actually being used for someone/something 'effeminate'). And "retarded" is more in the whole "thick, stupid, dumb" line of insult than "contemptible" (which is more "horrible, dislikable, repulsive"..?).<br />
<br />Personally, I also thought it better with not actually defining insults (correctly or otherwise), as it adds power to them. I can call someone a "numpty" in jest, for example, and colloquially that might be understood as the low-level insult (if that) which it is intended to be. But if I start to bandy around its {{wiktionary|numpty#Scots|dictionary definition}} then it becomes more of a seriously accusatory description.<br />
<br />Just my opinion. Not really understanding the latest revert when it had seemed to be improved (if anything) in the version you reverted away. Just putting it there. I know you're doing a lot of editing (good stuff!) just wondering if you considered this one carefully enough in your obvious zeal. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.182.89|172.71.182.89]] 16:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
:Addendum. Meant to say, if you decide to undo/reform your own revert (I won't do it, but on the offchance you see my point), I'd have not said "''commonly'' used". They're used in slang, but I don't think we can say how frequently they pop up. They're "used in slang" (and also not in slang, or at least not insulting slang, where "gay" has a long history of just meaning "happy", whilst "retarded" is often to do with decceleration/minimised acceleration of physical systems) but I'm not sure they're no more than minority words in the whole world of such language. They depict a subset of insult-givers (like the character in the comic, for whom it adds a certain additional characterisation) amongst all the many and varied insult-givers, and Randall surely chose such semi-bowlderised terms to not have to write any of all the far worse words he might also have done. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.94.31|172.71.94.31]] 16:46, 28 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== IP page to delete ==<br />
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I didn't see your thinking about why the Deletion category was not needed there. And, believe me as an IP myself, I've never known anything useful being said on an IP's User or User Talk page. With that example not breaking the pattern any. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.131|172.70.85.131]] 00:41, 22 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
:I just don't think there's a reason to delete it, it's useful to have a previous talk page if the IP continues to edit and people want to communicate with them [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 10:51, 30 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
::"The IP" is whichever one of 'us' happens to land on that particular Cloudflare route.<br />
::I'm not going to go back and find out which IP it represents, to check if it's in their current stock of connected gateways, but it might not be. Or it was even (depending on date) a pre-Cloudflare 'straight' access unproxied and thus no longer seen, even if the exact same editor on the exact same IP lucked on ''their'' initial gateway.<br />
::Certainly it won't map to a meaningful 'user', chances may even be that it doesn't map to ''any'' user. IP-version User/User Talk pages are anachronisms pretty much as soon as they're created. Or before, if based upon trying to contact an author of an older edit. I was on 172.70.85.131, above, but who knows (before I submit it) what this reply's sign-off will say.<br />
::And a one-shot editor may never ever see the results of any conversation that was tried to be started. Whereas I ''might'' see any response, anywhere, that contextually makes it plain that they're talking about an edit I once made.<br />
::Honestly, I think it'd be worthwhile checking ''every'' IP-focussed namespace page and archiving anything truly interesting that found itself in there in some other central location then condemning them all to deletion. Maybe, if possible, prevent their creation too. But I don't have the ability to do anything (except sift through them for any of the very rare gems of quality, but I wouldn't be able to do anything about it from there on in, so...<br />
::...not gonna do anything more about it (I can't, other than reinstate the To Be Deleted membership, whch I won't bother with), but I hope you understand my perspective on this. I've seen you become a very useful member of the community, who I generally respect for your input and tweaks to the site, and don't expect you to take instruction from li'l ol' me (not even working with an established identity). Just consider this as food for thought, and leave it at that if you wish. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.19|162.158.34.19]] 20:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== RTL/LTR: "...but I think it refers to me" ==<br />
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Yeah, it does. The point being that we might not do anything about the smartarses who vandalise knowingly (and I don't see a problem with what you otherwise did), but when someone thinks ''they'' have unique and funny joke (along the lines of putting "Citation needed"s ''everywhere'') they might spot the comment and then realise how we've seen it all done before so refrain from the prank. I can't even recall how many times we have had to revert things, but best to put off the casual comedian, and it won't change the outcome either way for the dedicated vandal with their blood up and looking to cause trouble. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.107|141.101.98.107]] 20:00, 29 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
:I guess you're right, I just thought it was very clear for everyone that rendering an entire article unreadable was an act of pure vandalism, but I guess an editor comment doesn't hurt. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 10:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== The reason "the image size wasn't there"? ==<br />
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...because it didn't need an image-size restriction, originally? Compare the [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/File:Miss_lenhart.png previous and current version sizes]. Nice to have a (''huge!'') high-res headshot, no doubt, but clearly that's why you found that it now needs artificially constraining... No actual mystery. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.63|172.70.85.63]] 17:16, 5 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:Yeah you're right, I just assumed every comic had the image size to be future-proof. The weird thing was that the "imagesize: " part was already there, but there was no value. Anyway, nothing important.<br />
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== I disagree with Oxford commas. ==<br />
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"For breakfast I had some bread, toast, and jam." - A legitimate(ish) case of ", and ". Or "I created the world, and saw that it was good." I otherwise prefer to suscribe to replacing all non-final conjunctions in sequence with commas but ''not'' adding one before the ultimate (remaining) conjunction. That's like having "Fish, and chips", where it isn't an actual afterthought. And best to rephrase or repunctuate (e.g. with super-listing semicolons to separate) if you have confusing comma-breakout clauses that ''so'' easily clash (or lead you down funny garden paths) with Oxford Commas. My opinion, but this is why syntax is clearer when leaving out OCs. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.93|172.70.85.93]] 13:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
:I just think it's better to use it everywhere to avoid any possible confusion. If we used it half the time, it would be inconsistent. But it's no big deal.<br />
::Similarly, no big deal. Except that it ''looked'' like an error. You've done a lot of useful changes, recently... A ''lot''... Which is not a bad thing, I must add. Occasionally I've seen what (I thought!) you intended to say, and I've helped out with a misplaced word or two. And I honestly do not feel like OCs read correctly in many circumstances. How would you even OC something like "...you should paint it red, yellow or, maybe, orange"?<br />
::The comma already does a lot of heavy lifting, four or five different uses can occur in the same sentence, with it commonly doing duty as a sub-clause parenthetical (except without the clear open/close distinction of an actual parenthetical) ''as well as'' conjunction-replacement within a list. You will find many instances of non-OCed lists on the site. In fact I find the "Please note that all contributions to explain xkcd..." bit, below this edit box, to be the exception and not the rule.<br />
::Anyhoo... I 'corrected' an example, but did not re'correct' it once you made it obvious what rule you were working to. I think you're less right than me, naturally, even if I wouldn't say that you're more wrong. ;) But I thought I'd make you a brief note of my thoughts rather than edit-warring the issue. Less brief, now, but I hope you still take it in good humour. (Oh, yeah, I'm sort of Ok with Oxford Spelling, insofar as it's mostly what I use naturally. Except for the "-ize" bit. That and their Comma are totally against how I was taught at school, a number of decades ago. :P ) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.71|172.71.242.71]] 15:26, 6 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::You really seem to care about this a lot more than I do, if you want feel free to revert my edit back. I'm not even sure why we're here talking about commas lol<br />
:::I'm no expert and I just like commas. Thanks for checking my edits, I think I've seen a few of your corrections. I have a lot of free time at the moment and I seem to like fixing up unorganized things here --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 21:42, 6 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Science Girl/Hairbun ==<br />
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You may have noted that several of the Talk pages attached to those you changed already had discussions about whether someone was Hairbun or (a possibly grown-up version of) Science Girl, and you had people like Kynde support the change ''to'' treating her as Science Girl. No skin off my nose, but I'm not sure your arguments are strong enough to support your broad sweep changes in that regard. I think I'd side with "bun with trailing hair" being SG (regardless of apparent age/maturity, as the description only really says ''usually'' a child, whether you take that as prescriptivist or descriptivist) but not enough that I'd reverse your considerable efforts in this matter. But on the off-chance that you hadn't noticed the prior discussions and conclusions, before making your own assessment. FYI, only. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.204|172.71.178.204]] 14:01, 7 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:I will properly reply to you tomorrow since it's midnight here. Btw thanks for letting me know these hyperlinks were rendered correctly, and for fixing my 1 typo <s>(after i corrected 100)</s><br />
::Guys, some things may be being taken too seriously. Assuming [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1608:_Hoverboard&diff=prev&oldid=317396 this was the 'one error'], yeah, the Pedant's Curse hits us all, that's the point. Easy to see how it was done (read as "a Category:Interactive..." rather than "an interactive", or whatever). Happens to the best of us, when concentrating on loads of other things. Not sure about the Jill thing, at all, myself, but that discussion is probably for soewhere else. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.158|172.69.79.158]] 22:22, 7 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:::Nonononono I wasn't serious when I thanked you about the typo, I was also just kidding. I was joking about how after I corrected a ton of typos I added one more.<br />
:::On the main topic you brought up: I think Jill's main characteristics (I'll talk about why I renamed her) are that she is a child, she is usually interested in science, and has always one or two buns with trailing hair. [[Hairbun]] isn't as defined as Jill: she just has a bun. This is what the page [[Hairbun]] (written entirely by Kynde, I haven't reformatted to remove the bullet points yet), say about the bun:<br />
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:::*Her appearance, apart from her glasses, can also change.<br />
:::**In 703: Honor Societies, 708: Sex Dice, 1511: Spice Girl, 1601: Isolation and in every instance in 1608: Hoverboard her hair looks somewhat different, curly and with some kind of ponytail, but since '''her main distinguishing characteristic is the hair bun''', these comics are included.<br />
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:::*There are some characters with hair buns that are not Hairbun:<br />
:::**Since she is a grown woman, she should not be confused with Jill or any other small girls with hair bun like in 1584: Moments of Inspiration.<br />
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:::And on the Page for Jill, before I ever touched it, it said:<br />
:::*As she is usually also clearly a child she usually cannot be confused with Hairbun<br />
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:::Kynde mentioned [[1511: Spice Girl]] and [[1601: Isolation]] as featuring Hairbun and not Jill, but they look exactly like a grown-up Jill. Plus, on the gallery section on [[Hairbun]] (I'm working on adding back a better one since the old one was kinda broken UPDATE 11:13, 8 July 2023 (UTC): Added the gallery back with vector images), this was the first picture of Hairbun:<br />
:::[[File:Hair Bun Girl with curly hair and ponytail.png]]<br />
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:::So, to recap: Hairbun has always had a version with a bun with trailing hair, but it was inconsistent between comics, so I settled on Jill is a girl that always has trailing hair and Hairbun is an adult that sometimes has trailing hair.<br />
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:::On the topic of renaming Jill:<br />
:::*I searched the wiki for Jill and found 3 discussions. One of them ended up "why world we even create a page for that girl, there aren't many comics featuring her.", but didn't criticize the name too much iirc<br />
:::*We did the same thing for [[Danish]]. The only time she was given ''any'' name ("Danish in the sense of "darling" iirc), that was the name used.<br />
:::*If we change our minds and Jill also becomes a woman, we don't have to remove the "girl" part.<br />
:::*I'm not sure about this, but I think she's slowing being added more and more outside science comics.<br />
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:::Wow this was long --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 10:20, 8 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== In reply to [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2794:_Alphabet_Notes&curid=26437&diff=321127&oldid=320916 this query]... ==<br />
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There's {{w|Welsh orthography|the Welsh}}, at the very least! (Well, you did ask! Even if it's truly not so relevent. ;) ) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.159|172.70.86.159]] 11:29, 18 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
:Lol. TIL! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 20:13, 18 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Plural animals ==<br />
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Following on from Ferret->Ferrets, what about the last remaining singular that is Category:Apatosaurus? (I must admit, all your edits/re-edits are making my head spin, as worthy as they often are, but this seems like the next logical step that I thought you might have done to finish that particular neatening job.) But I'll leave it up to you as to whether it's Apatosauruses, Apatosaurii or whatever else you might consider most appropriate... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.98|172.70.85.98]] 10:15, 24 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
:I actually thought about it, and I came to the conclusion that I don't know what the plural of that word is. Feel free to research if there's a "right" word and rename that category :)<br />
:> (I must admit, all your edits/re-edits are making my head spin,<br />
:Yeah I don't really organize everything I want to change beforehand, so whenever i notice a little thing is missing, I add it to every page that needs it. I guess it's easier to review my edits in bulk from a page's version history lol --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 10:53, 24 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Username ==<br />
I spotted a spam-like user named "Papyrus". [[User:ChristmasGospel|ChristmasGospel]] ([[User talk:ChristmasGospel|talk]]) 21:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Interesting, i edited that comic's page yesterday. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 07:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
== Community portal spam ==<br />
The spammers seem to be deleting text from Community Portal. [[User:ConscriptGlossary|ConscriptGlossary]] ([[User talk:ConscriptGlossary|talk]]) 07:28, 3 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, but I couldn't find any recent example concerning me. Do you mind giving an example? --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 07:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible Adminship? ==<br />
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Hi FaviFake, I’m Victoria. I’m planning on reaching out to Jeff via Twitter/X because there’s a long list of things that only he can do. You can see the list at my [[User:42.book.addict#To_Do_List_for_Jeff|user page]]. One of these tasks is promoting more admins. Seeing as you are quite active, and have done quite a lot of edits (top 10 in CS score-wow!), would you like to be mentioned in my message as a possible admin candidate? [[User:42.book.addict|42.book.addict]] ([[User talk:42.book.addict|talk]]) 17:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Oh hey, thanks for messaging me! I started caring a lot for this site about a year ago, went on a complete pause for a few months, and came back this week. You seem very active, love to see some new active users! I saw your message on the community portal saying you were trying to find a way to contact Jeff. That's actually something I've thought about doing for a long time but never actually tried since not even Davidy22 was able to contact him at one point iirc.<br />
:Anyway, yes, I'd love to be an admin for this site since there are so many things I can't do as a user (i have my own to-do list, which includes 1) actually deleting pages in Pages to delete and 2) improving/fixing the comic templates and Main page).<br />
: So yeah, I wish you good luck contacting him! My only advice is to use any possible way to (or to get someone else to) contact him without worrying too much about annoying him. His last contribution was more than a year ago, he can totally jump back in for a moment after being unreachable for so long. I really like your message, it's very well-written, now the hard part is getting it to him. Asking Davidy22 for his email address (or finding it online) sounds like a great idea to me. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 22:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia below transcript ==<br />
The FAQ page says that trivia is below transcript. I'm very sorry about this. [[User:ConscriptGlossary|ConscriptGlossary]] ([[User talk:ConscriptGlossary|talk]]) 00:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Nono don't be sorry, you're totally right! I came back here after months of being offline and forgot about the order! I realised my mistake yesterday but didn't have the time to go look for the article to revert my edit. Please revert it if you get the chance to do it before me. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 04:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
::There, I should've fixed it now. I see you also reverted my edit, thanks! [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 04:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== On the Ghosts in the NavPane ==<br />
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When I saw 42's inclusion of Ghosts in the Character NavPane, I was pondering asking for Demons and Aliens (the blob-monster types, or near variations, from both UFO-ish comics and far-future) to be added alongside.<br />
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But I agree with you that they're not ''really'' minor characters. Yet I think they (all of them) deserve a slot there, as they are as much a feature as the (Animals/)Squirrels section. Originally thought to suggest "Groups" (could include "Multiple Cueballs" and even "Children" for groups with otherwise un-IDed child characters), which you could still ''also'' add (but for human-character groups only), but now thinking "Other Beings" could hold Ghosts, Demons and Aliens (maybe "Future Beings" separate from the latter, or at least the differently-futuristic "Floating Orbs" as ''another'' other classification category in there). As a section between Real People and Animals, I thought, unless it's decided best to put them after Animals.<br />
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Food for thought, anyway. You (and 42, and maybe others) may have your own ideas on this, and I wouldn't (and can't) spring my own ideas upon you by suddenly just editing the appropriate source. It probably needs discussion. I nearly put my earlier thoughts in the Community Portal area, but as you're personally active on this at the moment I thought it might be easier for you to ponder if I finally commited it to writing just here. (Feel free to move this contrib/advertise it wider, if you see fit.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.62|172.70.91.62]] 14:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Just popping in to add my 2 cents-I wholeheartedly agree with the idea of having “other beings” in the navbox. '''[[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#db97bf">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#97b6db">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 16:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Hey there, thanks a lot for messaging me about this. I disagree with you for one specific reason: the navbox was initially supposed to catalogue the recurring characters in the comics which displayed more or less the same behaviours across comics, such as [[Black Hat]] and [[Beret Guy]]. It then expanded to include real people, such as politicians, which still remained the same characters across different comics. The animal section is different in that some of them are the same animals across comics (such as bobcats and red spiders, for example), but since we had to include them, we included EVERY animal, even when they were completely different every time, because it'd look weird if the only animals there were the specific ones i mentioned.<br />
::If we included a section such as Other beings that includes ghosts, I believe it would be filled with characters that are not the same in every comic they appear in and the navbox would completely lose its intended purpose. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== (Whoops, forgot a header!) ...FYC ==<br />
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If you agree with {{diff|356369|these additions/changes}}, with or without other adjustments, I was wondering if you'd like to do the respective changes to the Incomplete Article category page, as I find it's semi-protected and I'm thus locked out from the edits that I thought I might duplicate there too (in my IP state – yes, I know I could change this, but I'm happier just to leave it up to you/whoever). Anyway, for your consideration. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.75|162.158.202.75]] 17:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Done! Thanks. I removed a few technical details. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 07:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==The [[What If? chapters|''What If?'' article index]] project==<br />
''The messages regarding the [[What If? chapters|''What If?'' article index]] project have been moved to '''[[Talk:What If? chapters]]'''. To add a new topic regarding the index, [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:What_If?_chapters&action=edit&section=new click here].'' --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 09:15, 2 February 2025 (UTC)<br />
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== Removed "Discussion" super-header. ==<br />
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I had wondered, as (at that time) you hadn't bothered to remove any of the ''other'' equivalent super-headers. It looked a bit like an accidental select-and-cut, like sometimes editors do, given your actual edit was waaay down the other end of the page. (It was a bit too neat, not like the usual case of somehow snipping off just one of the "="s, make a =="header"== into a ="header="=, effectively, but I've also seen similarly unmessy accidents happen, so your decent tightening up of the whitespace could have just as easily been a part of the same misclicking.)<br />
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I did check the companion pages, and they were all happyily as they (once) were. Note that the extra level of header ''does'' have use for (e.g.) putting a similar level of header at the bottom to give Archive, FAQ, etc, sections (not part of the now-top-levelisted points), or even such that we can have "for <foo>, see <otherPortal#section>" to gather things up with less repeats. Not to have their own subheaders (unless they, too, get so large that we have to further split them!), but to be seperate-but-appended like a Transcript (and maybe Trivia) section, regardless of how subheadered an in-depth Explanation gets. If we ever get that (and, really, we could do with a ''lot'' of archival for most of the Community Pages, and maybe some FAQing, for which I ''might'' suggest a subheadering to easily scan for... e.g. ... the situation with the MathML that seems to get revisited more often than not), then we probably need the superheaders back, unless we put messy indented-bullet-trees (at the top? with or without "expand"-hiding?) ''only'' for non-discussion items.<br />
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Not that I totally agree that "1.<many...>" (and the occasional "1.<something>.<subsubitem>" was unreadable, either, but ''so long'' as we don't have a further main(ish) header, of equal import, then ''maybe'' it's ok to do it your way. Just it seemed like a big decision to make, to cut out all the (admitedly untaken) options out of the equation. ...And that is a summary of the mental arithmatic whizzing through my head when I had decided (on balance) that you'd probably just made an unknowing misedit that needed bringing back in line with the others. Just to explain the snap decision to undo your 'accident'. Not sure whether you'd been purposefully thinking about it for far longer, of course. Maybe even a couple of minutes! ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.58|172.71.178.58]] 14:53, 8 February 2025 (UTC)<br />
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:I totally agree with everything you said! One day I noticed there was a useless superheader at the top which was making the TOC unnecessarily slightly harder to scan through. We should definitely bring it back if someone decides to organise the portals, but I figured since it was untouched for more than a decade, it's likely it won't happen in the near future. There was no need to explain the reasoning behind your revert, but I appreciate you reaching out! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:06, 8 February 2025 (UTC)<br />
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==A simple Thank-you==<br />
Thank you so much for expanding my knowledge of xkcd, the wiki, and wikis overall. That user page creation left a bit of a mark on me lol. I have found out that I have reached a high enough level to create user pages. I have created 2 user pages and 2 discussion pages for other worthy members of the community. Thank you for the very helpful advice, and thanks again for providing helpful information from the community. Sincerely, [[User:DollarStoreBa&#39;al|DollarStoreBa&#39;al]] ([[User talk:DollarStoreBa&#39;al|talk]]) 05:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)<br />
:No worries! I'm glad we have another active contributor <3 &nbsp; --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:09, 27 February 2025 (UTC)<br />
::It's relevant to note that we only create User pages when people explicitly ask for them. On the other hand, '''User talk''' pages are created if you want to talk to that specific member privately. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)<br />
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== Removing references to order of LiveJournal comics ==<br />
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[https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1%3A_Barrel_-_Part_1&type=revision&diff=320394&oldid=320342 But WHY?]<br><br />
I'm very unhappy to realize you have deleted my hard work giving people a possibility to click through the first comics in the order they where released on livejournal. I have not checked them all, but I'm not happy that it has been deleted and would like to get it back. Pleas try to explain why you found it a good idea to remove this info from so many comics! I'm quite upset about it at the moment. And since you removed it would like you to restore it if you cannot make me see why! Seems there is also more info I put in that have been deleted? :-( --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:31, 10 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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:You are mistaken! I actually liked the idea of browsing the first comics in the original order ''so much'' that I moved it above the explanation! This means it's now much easier to browse them in the correct order, because the user is no longer required to scroll to the bottom of the page: the links are right below the comic.<br />
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:I did this for all the 50ish comics. I think you might also have missed the "Original title" and "Original caption" parts of these first comics. In every one of these comics, right under the title (above the image) there's an "Original title". Likewise, below every Title text there's now an "Original caption" part, which contains the LiveJournal caption. See for example comics [[4: Landscape (sketch)]] or [[8: Red spiders]]. I also added a link to the specific LiveJournal post both on the title and caption parts, so users can see them for themselves. Your hard work no longer sits in the hidden Trivia section, but is actually above everything else and easier to read and use!<br />
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:I do think it's still not perfect, especially part to browse the comics. I'd like to create a custom template with real buttons (not just links) and an actual explanation of the situation, or maybe integrate it directly into the {{tl|comic}} template. But still, a much better solution than putting everything in the last section! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm sorry for the harsh words. Late that night I realized all my trivia info was deleted (did see the original title text was added), but did not realize that the info was relegated to a more prominent place. So I take back my comment, and instead now thank you for improving my work. Hope you accept this apology from a message written at a bad time. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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:::Of course! You were very polite. I'm glad you're still active in this wiki :) --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:16, 12 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
::::Me to, so there at least is one active admin. Sadly I'm not very good at the tech stuff a<nd also do not have time to look into all kinds of wiki policies... Glad there are others like you who lift the mantle on those parts. We really need a guy like Davidy... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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:::::UPDATE: I moved the sentences above the ==Explanation==, so it should now be clearer. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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== Jill's renaming ==<br />
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Hi FaviFake <br><br />
Just came around to think about the renaming og Science Girl, that I created, to Jill. I really do not like it, and we do not generally give generic figures a name, Megan and Danish the exceptions. And because she is in a comic based on a children song, the name is clearly from the song not because the generic Science Girl is called Jill. Jill is not even used in the comic, only in the title text. You wrote there where no less than three discussions regarding this name change, agreeing with you. But they are not on the talk page of Science Girls page. I'm seriously considering changing it back, so let me know where these discussions are located. I also think it was a mistake to call Danish, Danish, but it beats calling her Black Hats girlfriend. It was just a nickname he used, and they killed the witness as no one must know... But that was done way before I began editing this page. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:21, 30 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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:Hey, thanks for your message! I'll respond tomorrow because I don't have time, but for now I just wanted to note somewhere (before I forget) that I looked though all 41 appearances and counted the times where science is the main theme of the comic. The result was that the majority of Jill appearences are not related to science. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 20:07, 30 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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::Well I will have to check that but the first instance was included because it was a girl who where interested in science even though she doesn't look like ScienceGirl. And an adult version of her was included because it was science again. The question is of course if there are now a different girl... But I do not like the naming of her. We did refrain from naming Cueball Rob, and there was also someone who did not like Megan. But that I like now. I prefer keeping Danish, but do not like the reason why she got than name. And other generic characters have been given a name in some comics without we used this. And really feel it is wrong to name her after a children song just because she was in a comic about that song! --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Hey. <br />
And an adult version of her was included because it was science again.<br />
I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to, but this would actually help my case! "Girl" implies she's either a teenager or a child. This means that, if you wanted to broaden her definition to also include "adult versions", you'd have to use another name. Science Woman? Science Female Charachter? I think Jill is better: it sounds like a name a child would have, but doesn't prevent us from giving the name Jill to adult versions. If we change our minds and Jill also becomes a woman, we don't have to remove the "girl" part.<br />
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We do not generally give '''generic figures''' a name<br />
But I don't think she's a generic figure. In a bit more than a third of the comic appearences, she's specifically interested in science. This, to me, means she's likely the same person on most of the comics. SHe also has a similar behaviour.<br />
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Even if that weren't the case, we would still have to find a name for her that's generic enough, that represents her qualities, AND that's not a proper name. Or, we could just call her what Randall called her, "[[Jill]]". There is precendent on this wiki for giving a name to a character based solely on one instance, where the name wasn't even intended: that's [[Danish]]. Even more: Danish was used by Randall as an adjective, but here Randall gave us a proper name!<br />
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There where no less than three discussions regarding this name change, agreeing with you.<br />
I didn't say they agreed with me. There was no consensus on all of them, iirc, mainly because few people partecipated. Yes, I remember they weren't on her talk page, which is weird, but they were somewhere else. I remember they were mostly even.<br />
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The first instance was included [...] even though she doesn't look like Science Girl<br />
That specific comic is an exception, in all other comics she has a bun with trailing hair. Randall may have drawn a ponytail because of the limited space. Anyways, as I said, the majority of the comics featuring her aren't mainly about science. (Of course, almost all Randall comics relate to science, but I counted comics where it was intented.)<br />
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We did refrain from naming Cueball Rob<br />
That's because there was consensus on the fact that Cueball is an everyman, while Rob is the same charachter.<br />
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And really feel it is wrong to name her after a children song just because she was in a comic about that song!<br />
Well that's the only mention of her name we have, even if it's unrelated. I like that she was named after a nursery rhyme, it fits her character, since she's a child.<br />
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[...] I really do not like it, [...]<br />
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[...] I do not like the naming of her. [...]<br />
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[...] There was also someone who did not like Megan. But I like [Megan] now. [...]<br />
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[...] I really '''feel''' it is wrong to name her after a children song [...]<br />
I'm starting to see a trend here. Do you think it could be possible you're against the name change because you simply... don’t like how it sounds? I didn't like how "Science Girl" sounded, but that's not why I changed her name...<br />
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--[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:34, 31 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the reply. Sadly you could not show me any discussion about the name change. Only that you said there where. So that did not help. Yes maybe I used the same wording many time. Also not native English speaker so may have less options to express my meaning... What I do not like about Jill and using that comic to name her, is that I do not think that comic at all is representative of the character I had identified and named Science Girl. But I do agree that if there are several instances where she is represented as an adult it could be a problem. I only new her as adult in [[1520: Degree-Off]] and I can see this has been changes, although I believe this should be reverted as this is not hairbun bu Science Girl. I did not know it had been removed. In this [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1520:_Degree-Off&oldid=123879 version] she was named Science Girl] but it was removed without my knowing. And that she was an adult version was in this [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jill&oldid=123921 version]. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:35, 31 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
::Looking at comics now, and just found this one, without looking for Jill and saw her here: [[2747: Presents for Biologists]]. To me the important thing is the interest in science and that the hairbun is not tight but with strings of hair hanging loose. So maybe the explanation to Jill should be changed to a young woman, often a child with a loose hairbun, not to be3 confused with the generic every woman Hairbun... Then Degree-Off is also clearly Jill. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 17:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Also not native English speaker so may have less options to express my meaning<br />
I'm also not a native speaker, I'm Italian! :D I wasn't pointing out your choice of words but rather what you were trying to say, which is (I think?) that you don't like the name. Anyways:<br />
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To me the important thing is the interest in science [...] So maybe the explanation to Jill should be changed to a young woman [...]<br />
It seems your opinion has changed completely then! This is what [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jill&oldid=123921 you wrote] about [[Hairbun]] before I joined this wiki:<br />
''Since she [Hairbun] is a '''grown woman''', she should not be confused with Science Girl or any other '''small girls''' with hair bun like in [[1584: Moments of Inspiration]].''<br />
According to this logic in this comic:<br />
* [[1520: Degree-Off]] - taller than other woman and man, so a woman → '''not Jill'''<br />
* [[2747: Presents for Biologists]] - as tall as other woman and man, so a woman → '''not Jill'''<br />
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Also, this would mean we'd have to rename Jill to someone else in a third or a fourth of her appearences.<br />
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But I do agree that if there are several instances where she is represented as an adult it could be a problem<br />
I agree! If there's one thing that I think everyone can agreen on is that we shoudn't call a grown woman a "girl". And "Science Woman" sounds like a superhero.<br />
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So, to avoid naming Hairbun '''based on how she looks''' and Jill '''based on her displayed interest''' (I'll remind you, you said in Hairbun's page that this is Hairbun:)<br />
[[File:Hair Bun Girl with curly hair and ponytail.png]]<br />
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...all i did was standardise the matter:<br />
*'''Jill is a child OR girl that always has trailing hair''' (except 1 comic), and<br />
*'''Hairbun is an adult that sometimes has trailing hair.'''<br />
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I think any other definition would be incredibly confusing. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:03, 1 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Well I originally put in degree off as Science Girl as she both looked and behaved like Science Girl. So I may have changed my mind. Cannot find the picture you said that I said was Hairbun? Maybe it was from before I introduced Science Girl. I have created both of these characters and then others have changed the explanation and the name. I also called her [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hairbun&oldid=88388 Hair Bun Girl], which I can now see it wrong since she was a woman, but again, not native English. Here is my first creation of [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jill&oldid=123862 Science Girl]. There where more than a year between, so maybe I changed my mind regarding which could be hairbun in between? I'm certainly more interested in having those characters with hairbun and dangling hair to be another than normal hairbun now. And would today have collected those that looks like that together. Also there are many instances of Jill where she do not have a speaking part, thus saying she is always interested in science doesn't fit with how she is listed now... It is difficult. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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::Oh yeah that makes sense, I didn't consider the fact that Science Jirl was created possibly years after Hairbun. I'm not sure I understood your last sentence, about Jill not speaking? --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 14:26, 2 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:::I think only a year after. But still. I meant that there are several instances with Jill where she do not have a speaking part in the comic, and thus cannot be said to have a special interest in science or her sharp wit. So if science should be her main indicator then she has to say something. But I do not really know how to make this as best as it could be. (Science Jirl, Jirl a combination of Jill and Girl ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:46, 4 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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::::It'd be so funny if we settled on Science Jirl haha. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:10, 4 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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== As I can't edit it... ==<br />
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Regarding the Editor FAQ:<br />
For headlines, you have to use wiki-style code. The simplest way is a preceding semicolon at the beginning of the line which causes the entire line to be rendered in bold.<br />
...I might be tempted to say something like "This makes use of {{w|Help:Wikitext#Description_lists|Description List}} markup", given how there are circumstances when a ";something:fuller description of something" is also actually useful. And then go on to say something about how this is functionally simpler than the actual (sub-)header use of =s, ==s, ===s, etc, (which you'd be advised to check what 'level' of (sub-)header you're already working in and go for the next level on from that) and would the usually be recorded in a Table Of Contents of either the page concerned or any page which it is transcluded within.<br />
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Except that we're going into really ''technical'' territory with the latter bit. Generally, ==s are for Explanation, Transcript, Trivia headers in comics, you could say. (The reason being is that the Main Page has a single-= header under which the Latest Comic is transcluded and so ==s are best to be inherited as transient sub-headers - but you don't need to say that... it's just an obvious reasong behind the stylistic decision.) Headering a section other than these, in a comic (such as a place for a Table Of Things, or similar) would generally be ===ed (or, rarely, ====ed, as a sub-sub-header of the Explanation/whatever). It is best to avoid any ===+ing at all in the Comic Talk page because, if the Comic page itself gets a TOC (some do, most don't, but all ''potentially'' could) then the transcluded Discussion gets (probably!) inadvertently and improperly added in. (You can force a NOTOC, and some other tricks, but I've never been able to find a NOTOCIFTRANSCLUDED-like thing, not without peppering noinclude sections around section headers, which is... getting ''far'' too complicated.) So, just saying "Don't use '==...'s in Talk Pages, stick to ';'s..." (even without the reasoning) might be an advisable statement.<br />
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Yeah, I'm giving you a lot of stuff here (I think you know all of it, actually), hopefully you can tease out some of the bits actually useful to suggest in the FAQ. :P [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.164|172.68.205.164]] 21:52, 11 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Darnit, also meant to add that in the {{template|Citation needed}} explanation you wrote, could you change {{template|actual citation needed}} to {{template|Actual citation needed}}? The latter is the actual template, the former is just a redirect. No harm in ''using'' the redirect-needing ones (generally), but you might as well advertise the correct ones. Like you don't advertise {{template|cn}} or {{template|fact}} (both ->{{template|Citation needed}}, as are {{template|citation needed}}, {{template|Citation Needed}} and other case-accomadating variations), though people still are able to use them. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.164|172.68.205.164]] 21:58, 11 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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:Sorry but you're gonna have to give me exactly what you want me to paste in the article, I haven't understood a word of what you said. I changed the actual cit needed thinghy--[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 09:45, 12 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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==User page creation==<br />
I just wanted to say thanks again for making my user page! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:38, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:No worries! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:22, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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==Admin==<br />
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What does an admin do? Are they just the people that can create pages?</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Davidy22&diff=373023User talk:Davidy222025-04-15T09:06:05Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* too much downtime */</p>
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<div>==Thanks for helping roll back the vandalism==<br />
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Hi Davidy22,<br />
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Just a quick thanks for helping roll back so much of the vandalism. Per your recent log comment, yes, there has been a recent spate of vandalism; before yesterday, it was the odd spammer that I've had to remove. But with the advent of ''Click and Drag'', there's also been an insurgence of ip-based vandalism. I'm hoping this is just a spike owing to the popularity of the comic, but I'm with you; if it doesn't die down, something more drastic is going to have to be done.<br />
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But again, thanks for helping...<br />
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== Please don't ==<br />
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Please don't create the redirects to explanations that haven't been created yet. It breaks the next and previous buttons, and gives people that are browsing through the explanations the false impression that the site is more complete than it is. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah, I'll stop then. Didn't know that. [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]] ([[User talk:Davidy22|talk]]) 07:17, 25 September 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::Glad I'm not the only one who didn't know. Sorry about [[1633]] this morning. /.\ &mdash; ''[[User:Tbc|tbc]] ([[User talk:Tbc|talk]]) 19:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)''<br />
:::It's fine, just had to do a few things manually. Good intentions. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:34, 22 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==Dani22, the spam connoisseur==<br />
Congratulations on transcending from being annoyed at all spam to recognizing the truly beautiful works of spammage from the rest of the cruddy heap. We should throw a party, lol. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 16:33, 1 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Hey, it *was* a well written bit of spam. It was one of those copy/paste types of spam, except it was nicely formatted and coherent all the way through. It was informative too. A great change from the mindless template drivel or gibberish that we usually get. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>(talk)</tt>]] 23:11, 1 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Just asking ==<br />
:::Mostly cuz that didn't work when it was on the main page, and calling attention to specific comics has worked exceedingly well. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 06:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
Was there a reason you deleted most of the List of all comics? [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 05:21, 11 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:What on- shi-<br />
:I was adding comic number 1132, and the preview was really slow, so I copied everything in the edit box and refreshed the page. I think half of the page hadn't finished loading in the edit box, and I only copied the first half. Derp [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>(talk)</tt>]] 08:21, 11 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::I figured it was something like that. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 04:56, 12 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Just so you know, it happened again. But SlashMe fixed it. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:07, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Mother of fracking- I'm going to figure out what's causing this and I'm going to fix this. Godammit. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>(talk)</tt>]] 23:20, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Durr dee-durr, and now I've done it. Thanks for spotting that. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:22, 1 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Ahem... You gonna finish that? ==<br />
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Have you taken a look at the front page recently (say within since you created the [[1134]] redirect)? [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 05:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I have it open right now. Please don't ninja me again. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>(talk)</tt>]] 05:44, 14 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::<nowiki>*Sits tight and twiddles thumbs*</nowiki> Actually, if you've got this I'll go back to the pitiful bit of literature I'm calling this year's NaNo. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 05:53, 14 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== The Anonymous editor of 1132 ==<br />
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Has been 50.0.38.245 all along. For a while he changed his signature to be a userpage that didn't exist, and wasn't a registered user. He has now changed it back to being the IP address again. Just thought I should do some out-of-band communication about that. If you want to change your last comment about the anonymous user, that would be good. (I almost offered to edit it for you, but then realized the subject we're talking about, and decided that if 50.0 ever learns about looking at the edit history and diffs, I don't need to be called a hypocrite as well as a banhammer wielding {{w|BOFH}}) [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 03:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Broken mirror... ==<br />
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Sorry for the "ninja"... I guess we probably don't need 2 versions of the image though... Feel free to distill the explain part...--[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 07:15, 19 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Godammit, I even had the window open waiting for the article. The definitions can be merged into one paragraph, and wiki magic will explain how the comic works. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>(talk)</tt>]] 07:20, 19 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Fooooooooor He's a Jolly Good Fellow... ==<br />
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You are the man, man. Keep it up! [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:50, 21 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Seconded. Great work, you deserved the milestone! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:26, 21 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Please take a look ==<br />
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...at [[User talk:Lcarsos#Deletion|this]]. Nothing new to you, I suppose (spam fighting can be quite hard if we're overly cautious on every step), but I'm dropping the note just in case :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:52, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== autoblocking suspicious users ==<br />
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Once again, it looks like auto-blocking users that have suspicious usernames would require someone with more power than we have.<br />
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However, I very nearly blocked those three when I noticed the account creation. But, I didn't because I thought they might be legitimate users with stupid usernames. But now I've read up on {{w|Wikipedia:New_admin_school/Blocking|Wikipedia's block policy}} and from now on I'll be posting {{tl|uw-blockindef}} (which I've bungled fantastically right now, but shortly should be working) which should allow the rare legitimate user (with bad taste in usernames) to reclaim their good account, but allow us to block bad people.<br />
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You're ever friendly, massive toddler of an admin, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 03:41, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:I've also just found this page {{w|Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide}} which I will be reading very thoroughly and beginning to use this blacklist. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 04:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::Hum. A great many of these templates could be condensed into a few bigger ones, but at least the documentation links are there for us to use. Also, you do know that Template:UserBox already exists, right? [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, crud. You switched, I switched. I do like the one we had better, mostly because of the descriptive labels and the nice thick borders. The name's in convenient CamelCase too. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::::As a general rule I loathe my shift key, using more keys to achieve the same goal is wasted time, and I could be called ruthless about wasted time. Saving a single keypress seems petty. But I had a CS professor point out that by specially crafting what you have to type (creating shortcuts) saving a keypress here and there can add up to saving several thousand keypresses every 8 hours, which over a long enough quantity of time can equal hours and days. That's my long winded explanation for why I like using {{tl|userbox}} instead of {{tl|UserBox}}.<br />
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::::Also, I like the wikipedia userboxen, it's more flexible. And that allows anyone who comes over from Wikipedia to know how to work userboxen here too. That's my case for it. I hope you agree because I don't want to have to push my shift key, but I'll take your input, and if we end up in a tie, we might ask Waldir to tie break for us, as he'd be a neutral third party. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:44, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:::::In CS, I learned that descriptive variable names and easy to recognize naming conventions can save heaps of debugging time. I personally like the CamelCase version better because it uses variable names like left-bg instead of id-c for the background color in the box on the left, which makes the template self-documenting and easier to grok for a new user who's just reading the source. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 07:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:::::: I was asked to comment. Here are my thoughts:<br />
::::::* Regarding CamelCase, it is indeed a neat convention but we don't use it elsewhere on the wiki. In fact, MediaWiki itself, in its early versions, used to rely on CamelCase for linking, but moved to the free-form, space enabled link syntax, which is better in many cases. Not everything converts nicely into CamelCase. So while I appreciate the argument to use CamelCase as the template name, I think the regular case version fits the wiki better. Besides, redirects are cheap and work well, so if the CamelCase title redirects to the lowercase one, whoever wants to use the CamelCase version can still do so seamlessly. Not an issue, therefore.<br />
::::::* I agree with Davidy22 on the parameter names. In fact, the code of the template can be arranged in a more readable form (using whitespace and indentation) so not only its uses can be deciphered, but the template itself too. Renaming parameters is a simple matter, especially for templates with not many uses as these are, which means there isn't a lot of replacements to perform.<br />
:::::: In summary, I think the two templates should definitely be merged and the best features of each kept in the final version: the title being [[Template:userbox]] (with redirects from [[Template:UserBox]] and [[Template:Userbox]]), and the parameters using intuitive names as {{tl|UserBox}}.<br />
:::::: --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:06, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::::::: Sounds good to me. The wikicode looks god-awful ugly though, who's up for cleaning that thing up? [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::: If you guys do the merge, I can clean it up afterwards :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 01:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== separate section for title text ==<br />
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I agree that in the two instances you removed the section header for the title text, it wasn't justified, but in some cases it does make sense. See [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Subsection for title text explanation|here]]. Cheers, [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== No more imagesize ==<br />
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I made a comment on [[Template Talk: comic#Imagesize]], essentially imagesize isn't necessary, and I've changed the {{tl|create}} template to not include it. So rejoice, and forget imagesize ever existed (until the bug gets fixed). [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 03:02, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
: Bah, what was that parameter good for anyways? Clicking on the image should take you to the XKCD site anyways. What user cares about the image pages that the template currently takes you to? [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 06:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: That's an interesting point. It's technically doable. But I think there should be a way to access the comic images (granted, I'm not sure why exactly, but I'm not comfortable leaving them "orphans" —linkless— either) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:08, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::: There's the list of all comics page, and we could make the titletext link to the image page or something. I dunno, any excuse to kill imagesize. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 12:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::: To clarify, linking the image directly to xkcd has nothing to do with killing imagesize. That, for what I understand, has already been done. Good point about the list of comics page. I'll wait for more comments before implementing the change in the image link target. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::: Imagesize isn't *quite* dead yet. There's still four or five comics that still use it. Permission to upload the thumbnail versions of those comics, as we do with the other large comics, and end that broken thing once and for all? [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:05, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::: I don't like the idea of uploading smaller versions of images. We ought to be able to use mediawiki's own image scaling abilities as soon as we can do some [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Technical#We need more maintainers|testing in the wiki setup]] and make the image scaling issue go away. Apart from that, what exactly are the problems of imagesize, again? I haven't followed the discussions about it, sorry. Feel free to give me pointers to the appropriate places where the issues have been discussed. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 13:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Please move pages ==<br />
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I'm noticing that when someone creates a new page with the wrong title you're just copy/pasting the content onto the new page. Please don't do that. Please use the move page feature on the drop down of the page, that way we can keep the edit history for the page intact, and that way it doesn't look like you created these oddly poor quality pages. Thanks much. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 00:49, 6 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Righty ho. '''[[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:09, 6 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sorry ==<br />
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I have been working contra u by routinely adding a white line above the categories. I instantly raise white flag! And say good night! -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 00:40, 7 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia placement ==<br />
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Cheers mate! Please check the comment I made some time ago in the section you started, [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Section style and usage|"Section style and usage"]] on the Proposals community page. –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 23:10, 27 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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If you disagree with the trivia placement between explanation and transcript, why don't you say so, and explain why? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 14:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I made a section for discussion of this, so that we can come to some agreement: [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Trivia and transcript]]. –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Moved to [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Coordination#Trivia and transcript placement]] –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 23:05, 6 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Jurassic Park category ==<br />
Hi, you wrote you don't like how I created a new category for Jurassic Park. I thought it appropriate: there's a *lot* of references to Jurassic Park and/or velociraptors in the comics. And not all reference are to both... But what did you not like? Thanks for enlightening me! [[User:Kaa-ching|Kaa-ching]] ([[User talk:Kaa-ching|talk]]) 09:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:There's a lot of categories on this wiki. When adding categories to a page, it can get extremely difficult to make sure that you've gotten every category that applies to the comic. For regular editors, the amount that we have to remember when maintaining pages is already quite onerous; more categories hurt our dinky heads. If you're willing to steward that category, go ahead, but you'll have to remember to put in the explanation pages yourself when you find a comic that it applies to. '''[[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: OK. [[User:Kaa-ching|Kaa-ching]] ([[User talk:Kaa-ching|talk]]) 08:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==[[220: Philosophy]]==<br />
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Actually, what happened was: This being my first new page edit, I copy-pasted the format from another page, and then edited all the information to fit the correct comic. Then I realized I'd forgotten to remove the date of the original page's comic, so I did so. *blushes* No trolling intended, just a newbie mistake. Is 2/7/07 the correct date for this comic? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oooh. I thought you had gotten the date then removed it after seeing earlier rants concerning omitted dates. You can check a comic's date by clicking on the "All Comics" button in the sidebar on the left. All dates are in YYYY-MM-DD format. '''[[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yep. I see that now, and now that I know it's there, I create new pages straight from [[List of all comics]]. No offense taken. Thanks for the useful advice! [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 05:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character names in transcripts ==<br />
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Ah, I see now that you've been cleaning up after me, adding character names to transcripts instead of "Man", "Woman", et cetera. Now realizing that's the wiki's standard, I'll endeavor to do that myself from now on. Thanks for your patience with the new guy. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 07:40, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:It's k, just doing maintenance. You're really prolific, do you write all of those yourself or are you getting those explanations off the forums somehow? '''[[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 10:38, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I write them all myself. It's been some time since I've looked at the xkcd forums, actually. Sometimes I get a little help from Wikipedia when a particular detail escapes me. But you'll notice I don't make an attempt to explain the math ones. *laughs* [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 02:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== My unexplained hobbies. ==<br />
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I just want to make sure that you are getting this, but I restored "My Unexplained Hobbies." You can now explain them. [[User:Greyson|Greyson]] ([[User talk:Greyson|talk]]) 14:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Shweet. '''[[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I suck at wiki stuff but am a real human - sorry for the confusion. {{unsigned|Schmammel}}<br />
:No matter. Also, see the blue box above the talk page edit box for instruction on how to sign your posts. '''[[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== About your new admin powers ==<br />
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Actually just the rollback hammer. I've learned this after being burned a few times.<br />
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Rollback will actually not revert just the one edit you are looking at, but will go back until it hits a revision that wasn't done by that user, so its useful for pure spam accounts, but if you're just undoing a single edit, you may still want to use the undo tool.<br />
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Also, once or twice I actually had it revert all the way back to the last patrolled edit, which meant it actually got rid of the edits of a few anonymous editors too.<br />
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Just a caution that with great power comes great responsibility.<br />
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--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 04:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Oh damn, did I do that? Welp. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u><font color="purple" title="I want you">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><font color="indigo" size="4px">²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Removed Level 2 headings from Discussion page ==<br />
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Hi, I noticed you removed the level 2 headings in the discussion of comic 1188. I'm guessing it's the application of some formatting rule established on this wiki, so I'm curious where I can find a list of these standards that I should adhere to, so I don't make such a mistake again in the future. [[User:Jfresen|Jfresen]] ([[User talk:Jfresen|talk]]) 15:10, 20 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:It's not really a formatting convention, more of a workaround to technical limitations of the wiki. The way discussion pages are embedded into comic pages, headings in talk pages cause breakages when tables of contents are spawned. It's ugly and bad and it's the reason why we delete discussion page headers. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|purple|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 15:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Captcha help ==<br />
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:''This thread was moved to [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#Captcha help]].''<br />
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== RE: Signature ==<br />
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Sweet, thanks David. {{User:Omega/sig}} 14:51, 28 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Time is hard... ==<br />
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... and not only that, she also is, just like her sister Gravity, a heartless b**** :D <br />
Thanks for taking care! :) [[User:Caranhyas|Caranhyas]] ([[User talk:Caranhyas|talk]]) 09:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Feedback ==<br />
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Hey David. It's nice that you're so responsive to requests such as those at [[Mediawiki talk:Sitenotice]] (or [[explain_xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#Captcha help|this one]]), but please take also a moment to report the request as completed, as that not only provides feedback to the requester, but is also a reference for the future (which removes the need to dig through the relevant page's history if, for example, one decides to check whether a request ever got implemented), and exemplifies desired behavior for future administrators. Cheers, [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Alright. Was just trying to get through everything quickly, and forgot to reply to those requests. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:55, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== 262 correction: Thanks! ==<br />
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Hi there!<br />
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Unfortunately, I was not aware that I had incorrectly created the page for xkcd 262. Thanks for fixing that. My only question is whether the page "262" should be redirected to xkcd 262 rather than just showing the deletion template.<br />
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[[User:Milar Kayne|Milar Kayne]] ([[User talk:Milar Kayne|talk]]) 07:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:The page "262" and all other pages consisting of only numbers are used internally to handle page linking. You don't really need to worry about them, you just need to know that making explanation pages in those numbered pages is baaad and that the create templates in the [[List of all comics]] will set up everything relevant for you. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::So all of the xkcd comic pages theoretically "exist" on the site, but not all have connected pages? Also, how do I create a new page from the "All comics" page? Thanks for being so patient--I really want to be able to contribute meaningfully here. [[User:Milar Kayne|Milar Kayne]] ([[User talk:Milar Kayne|talk]]) 20:27, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No, we just link to the xckd comic pages. The numbered pages handle links between explanation pages. On the "List of all comics" page, there are (create) buttons next to all the red links; click those to start explaining those comics. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:12, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::OK thanks for explaining! I'll try to do better next time :). [[User:Milar Kayne|Milar Kayne]] ([[User talk:Milar Kayne|talk]]) 01:36, 10 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== List of unexplained comics ==<br />
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Thanks for the vote of confidence - hoping it'll encourage more contributors! [[User:Sean|Sean]] ([[User talk:Sean|talk]]) 21:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== New sections in comic talk pages ==<br />
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Re [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&curid=8457&diff=35146&oldid=35143 this correction] (especially your edit summary!): while there is the "Add topic" tab at the top of talk pages, you'll get new sections added to comic talk pages too.<br />
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Perhaps reducing them to ; headings is a better alternative that still marks a new topic.<br />
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;Just testing that I have the right formatting character<br />
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Of course this won't fix the automatically supplied heading from the "Add topic" tab, but then we do still want that functionality in other talk pages, like here...<br />
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:Ooh, the semicolon does that? You learn something new every day. Noted. There might be a way to change those controls at the top, I'll look into that. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Time frames 1008-1014 have an artefact in your upload ==<br />
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In your uploads "under the ground" between frames 1008 and 1014 there is a grey horizontal line with unmoving "ticks" while the terrain does change above. This is not reflected in the live hash for the only hash in this range recorded so far. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 10:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hrm, I've just been pulling the images from the xkcd site and uploading them straight. Imma check on this. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:29, 1 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, it's not just you, the [http://geekwagon.net/projects/xkcd1190/?frame=1014&framediff=1007 geekwagon.net/projects/xkcd1190] has it too. Randall must have had a snafu that he's fixed. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 12:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Time1190 - but sometimes I also have NO time ==<br />
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I did register in here mainly for 1190, I am sure you did see this.<br />
This weekend I will work on a script giving me an easy update for the next day template, for now I am doing manual.<br />
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THANKS for your great job on all the other comics!<br />
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I just do need more TIME...<br />
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And I am not native English, so I am still happy about everyone correcting me.<br />
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Archive discussion I did start here [[Talk:1190:_Time]]<br />
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--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I actually already have a script to do that. I thought you had made one of your own though when you were filling in for new days, so I was just letting you go ahead with that. Here's my script: [http://pastebin.com/RQGGia3L]. Change the variables at the top of the script, run it and copy/paste the output into the page for time. The fields should be self-evident, but ask me if you have any questions. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: Oh, PYTHON - I prefer Perl or just a simple bash script.<br />
:: So I will ask Randall for a translator for Python to Perl ;)<br />
:: And tomorrow I hopefully will have some more time, your script is helpful.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Just for fun I did the script in PERL. Here is the link: [http://pastebin.com/PG5j56Nv template]--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:29, 12 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== And sometimes I do have time ==<br />
Just tell me what I did do wrong (I will follow you...). I am still new to WIKI syntax, it is still new to me. But I am learning as you can see.<br />
And after all that I will write a Perl Script with a missing close paren...<br />
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I like jokes but I also like a clean Wiki here!<br />
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--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Uh, the explanation for that page is a wee bit thin for the size and complexity of the comic, and it uses terms like the hibbert curve without defining them. It's not enough of an explanation to cover the whole comic. Also, there were a few missing categories and a bunch of trailing spaces in the transcript. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:46, 23 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::"a wee bit thin for the size and complexity of the comic" so sure this is still incomplete (I just did forget to add that template). Oh, and we have so many more complex comics with a need for more explanations. And while I am still not native English, which does mean I have to goooogle fore many memes, I am hoping I can support this wiki. I just try to do my best - any help on me is welcome! --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 00:12, 24 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::And I'm pretty sure they're all tagged as incomplete too, so all is well. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== User talk page deleted? ==<br />
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Hey there, apparently my talk page was deleted because the only content on it was "buttsex", which is fine, but I just thought I should let you know that I did not add that ;). Can I restore my talk page blank? --[[User:Mynotoar|Mynotoar]] ([[User talk:Mynotoar|talk]]) 11:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, sure, I saw the edit log when I deleted it. Do whatever you want with your user page. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:50, 25 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete explanations ==<br />
Hello [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]], I will stop creating incomplete new pages even when I think it's good idea to have a page for each comic here and work afterwards on all those incomplete ones. The pages [[Help:How to add a new comic explanation]] and [[List of unexplained comics]] should clarify this issue. Furthermore there are many more incomplete comics here not marked as incomplete so you can't find them here: [[:Category:Incomplete explanations|Incomplete explanations]]. I am trying to give my best to support this wiki--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 17:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:One add: I am not a youngster, my first computer was a C64 and the next one was a IBM compatible PC 286 (512 KByte main memory, 20 MByte hard drive). And right now I'm just trying to encourage other people to help here. But I don't want to fight against windmills.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't making any implication as to your age. It is actually harder to track incomplete articles than nonexistent ones - the wiki has no way of automagically detecting them the way it automatically provides red links for missing explanations. We have the incomplete tag, but people delete it from pages that still haven't quite been explained completely, and I sometimes forget to tag a new incomplete explanation as incomplete. Also, the fact that some incomplete articles exist that are not tagged as incomplete does not justify the creation of more stubs; if you find an unsatisfactory explanation, mark it as incomplete yourself. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:15, 3 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Various requests ==<br />
Could you delete the spam page [[User:Inkovic]] and block the user who created it? And delete [[Talk:283: Projection]] as well, since it was apparently created by mistake?<br />
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Also, [[1225: Ice Sheets]] is still missing a transcript. Could you help add it? And [[266: Choices: Part 3]] and [[267: Choices: Part 4]] lack explanations, but have been removed from the [[List of unexplained comics]]. Should we re-add them to that page, or create some basic explanations for them? --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 20:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Incomplete articles are marked as incomplete, we'll deal with all the unsatisfactory articles on this wiki after we have a page for every comic. Still not an excuse to make more stubs, mind you. Did all the rest though. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Please block spammer 70.50.106.152, he did kill 1190 Time.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 08:53, 18 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Looks like a mistake. Not ban-worthy. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 10:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::This was the only edit he/she ever did. I am hoping this will not happen again, that big page was really hard to load.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 10:32, 18 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The main page needs to be edited, as the recent deletion of the [[List of unexplained comics]] was recently deleted, making the wiki comic count one less than the actual number. Also, could you delete [[Talk:List of unexplained comics]] and [[:File:a matter of some gravity.jpg]]? The former is an orphaned talk page, and the latter was superseded by [[:File:A Matter of Some Gravity.png]]. --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 20:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:08, 20 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I created an explanation for 1228 (Prometheus). What I wrote didn't appear for a few minutes and then when I tried to check why, I found you'd deleted a page, but the text I wrote then appeared where I was expecting it. Your comment on the deletion referred to "a thing on the front page" I should have read. I looked for this "thing", but I've still no idea what I did wrong, or what happened with all the page creation / deletion jiggery pokery. I created the explanation after clicking a box which told me to do so if I wanted to provide / improve the explanation. I apologise for my mistake, but perhaps it would be better not to put boxes on the main page which invite edits if those edits end up in the wrong place? [[Special:Contributions/87.115.172.168|87.115.172.168]] 08:55, 21 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I manually create the comic page and set it to show up on the front page usually within an hour of every new xkcd comic. The explanation pages for every comic follow a naming convention, with the comic number followed by the comic name. We also make a few redirects for the wiki to use to make the back/forwards buttons work. In addition to that, every explanation page has a template; note how every other page on this site has a particular look to it. The page that you created didn't follow any of that, so I deleted it and copy/pasted it to the correct location. The thing on the front page that I was referring to was the correct explanation page location that I had created 21 minutes earlier. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the explanation - quite a manual process! I didn't realise I was creating a page - it looked to me like the page had already been created (which it had, it seems) and I would just be editing the empty section for the explanation. Now I realise that the "please edit" box should have shown up in the editor, perhaps alarm bells should have wrung. Nevertheless, I'm still wondering if it would be better, if possible, to somehow remove or modify the "please edit" box when it appears on the main page so it doesn't create an incorrect new page when one already exists! [[Special:Contributions/87.115.172.168|87.115.172.168]] 09:29, 21 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Hopiakuta|hopiakuta DonFphrnqTaub Persina hopiakuta]] ([[User talk:Hopiakuta|talk]]) 09:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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There are a couple of xkcd comics that link to an extra image on the site when they are clicked. On this wiki, most of the time, the explanations just contain a direct link to this image. However, sometimes, users upload the secondary images and link to those. This is rather inefficient, especially since some images are too large to be displayed directly after they are clicked on the wiki. So, I was wondering if you could delete the few secondary images from the wiki. They are: [[:File:lakes and oceans large.png]], [[:File:na make it better.png]], [[:File:subways large.png]], and [[:File:lojban translated.png]].<br />
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In addition, I suggest that some [[Special:UnusedFiles|unused files]] also be nuked. [[:File:combination vision test fullcolor.jpg]] was superseded by [[:File:combination vision test fullcolor.png]]. [[:File:22 pieces.png]] was uploaded by a user who apparently just wanted to show off his Tetris skills. [[:File:2008 christmas special original.png]] is an xkcd comic before it was updated, which I doubt is necessary to include on the wiki. [[:File:starsmove.png]] doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose. --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 23:50, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Na make it better and the translated lojban do add to the comic. The two larger versions of comic images and the junk files have been deleted. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:12, 14 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I think you might have forgotten to delete [[:File:22 pieces.png]]. And [[404: 404 Error]] was created by mistake and also needs to go. <br />
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Also, could some admin tackle the issue that involves thumbnails not displaying properly? Dgbrt suggested [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#Image_Thumbnails_not_working_and.2For_appearing this fix]. Perhaps it could be tried? --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 16:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:The 404 page needs to exist for the previous/next comic buttons to work properly. It also explains why comic 404 is missing, which may be confusing to some xkcd readers. Mostly the forward/backwards buttons though. The scrap image is gone, and I'm looking into the proposed fix. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 12:21, 21 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Nope. The page [[404: 404 Error]] is a duplicate to [[404: Not Found ]]. I just did a redirect there because I can't delete it.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 17:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Whoop, deleted. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:08, 21 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, but there is still the discussion page. I did the same redirect there.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:26, 21 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Spam at 1190 Time ==<br />
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Hi, IP 68.100.149.94 is still doing annoying edits here. I do not like that.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Su Doku ==<br />
Hi Davidy22, I'm trying to enhance explains. People do read and understand shorter explains more easy, but the link to the details must be always included. I just did add the incomplete tag because my edit is maybe not complete. Everyone is welcome to help. But please keep short as possible, otherwise people won't read.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:19, 2 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That explanation is hardly too long. Our explanations should be self-sufficient, with the links there just to provide further context on things that we talk about in the explanations. A description of the format of sudoku is an important part of the explanation for comic 74, as the comic deviates from it in a notable way that not all visitors may recognize, be it because they haven't heard of sudoku before or because they aren't particularly familiar with the puzzles. There's a wee difference between cutting information and condensing the wording of a passage, and what you did with that explanation leads further towards cutting content. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I prefer explains people will read. The wiki link for Su Doku is already there but I will work on a small explain soon.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 15:07, 2 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::What, three full paragraphs is too much for people to read? Three full paragraphs of a complete explanation are better than a paragraph and two sentences of incomplete description? I'd rather we follow the name of the wiki and actually explain the comics. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 15:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Read my version completely, I did adopt your hints on explain Su Doku and did some more polish. PLEASE just read before you undo! Tell me what's missing but I still prefer a more simple explain. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:10, 2 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::You made a complete explanation incomplete in the name of simplicity. At least you bothered re-adding the relevant information back in post-hoc this time. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== 1190 Time pictures after major changes ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
any ideas to get new file uploads here? After your change we have some silence...--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 00:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Geekwagon, Aubronwood and many other sites keep archives of past frame hashes. We can look up our last hash and upload all proceeding images here. I did that for the first 500-odd frames, until people started doing it faster than me. I'll probably start again since other editors seem to be on holiday. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::You did upload all the images manual, is this the new way to do this? I thought your scripts don't like file names like 1234a, 1234b..., so do you not use a bot to upload the images? Further more: Since hashes from other sites do not map to the new naming here I think we have to document them here. But it seems I'm just running against windmills.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Post-hoc scripts; instead of an image archive littered with special cases, scripts need only iterate in numerical order. It's slightly more difficult to upload, but it's a consistent naming scheme for future use. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:03, 7 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== 1190 Time pictures - Do you use a bot or not... ==<br />
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...it seems not - why?<br />
Lazy as I am! You're not like this.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I have a script to help with backlog uploads, but then I also manually upload new images while I'm awake and am near my computer. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::What do you think about a bot? My computer is downloading the images by 24/7 so an upload here should be possible. But first I will start some tests at my local MediaWiki installation.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 12:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::A bot would be nice. Slashme's Slashbot actually did time image uploads, but he stopped cuz electricity bills or something. We could ask him if he's willing to share. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I am thinking about a bot like ''DgbrtBot''. I never have done this before (WikiBot) but I know the fucking manuals and while Randall does not like Perl I will use this language ;). Tomorrow I will start some tests at my local MediaWiki and then I will need an account for a bot.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 14:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Outage from Friday to Saturday ==<br />
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Did you recognize this, every error was just a "access denied for user ... on database ...". This board was dead for 24 hours.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:32, 21 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yep, purged cache to fix it. Not currently in a place with perfect access to internet though, so I'm not quite as fast with that as I usually am. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:33, 23 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::The same happened yesterday. Do you have chronic disk space/quota shortage? --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 13:13, 25 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yep. We added a donate button and the sidebar ads when these issues started happening - a few days after time - to buy better hardware. Money comes slow. We could probably stand to upgrade mediawiki and PHP too sometime. Sometime. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:43, 25 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Hi - I'm wondering if there has been any traction or progress in upgrading mediawiki - I was thinking especially with the recent comic [http://www.explainxkcd.com/1434 comic 1434] - but also historic comics like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/826:_Guest_Week:_Zach_Weiner_(SMBC) 826] - that an [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap imagemap] would be useful in the explanation, which is apparently bundled with [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21#Bundled_extensions mediawiki 1.21], but also available as a extension(?) -- [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 16:24, 16 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::Imagemap seems to be compatible with our version of Mediawiki. I'll get to adding it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:58, 16 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::Done. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:40, 18 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks! -- [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 11:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I tried to create an imagemap for [[1434]] on a separate page, but any attempt to include the imagemap caused the submission to hang (sitting showing only a blank page whether I tried to submit for a preview or to actually edit) - I believe it was Friday, but might have been Thursday if you're looking for error logs. This is in contrast to the behavior when I tried to use wiki image maps before you said you added the extension (it would:::::::: simply strip out the tags and show the text content). I don't know how much time you have to contribute to this site every day, or how high a priority fiddling with this extension would be, but I'd appreciate anything you can do to look into this. Specifically, I used the [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/File:where_do_birds_go_clips_only.png cropped image I uploaded] and the [http://www.maschek.hu/imagemap/imgmap Online image map editor] markup generator, which was linked from the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap#See_also MediaWiki:ImageMap page] as it "supports all shapes, [and is] Extension:ImageMap compatible".<br />
::::::::Alrighty, I'll get on it. Do you have the imagemap markup you were trying to use saved somewhere? '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 15:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Tested it, the error appears to be an old friend of mine. All the more reason to try and resolve it. Disabled the extension in the meantime, but it's still installed. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I don't have the markup handy, but it's pretty easy to create sample markup (which is why I included the links for errythang) - I'm not even sure how to escape it in a wiki to make it postable here, since it doesn't even commit the change - I appreciate your efforts! Do you get more money if I ''click'' on Ads? :-) -- [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 19:18, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::The way our pricing works, ad clicks don't directly translate to income, but they make the ad space more attractive to potential buyers which leads to them bidding up the price. Our base prices are rock bottom though to encourage our own users to advertise with us, and we wouldn't mind if you pointed your boss/marketing dept at work towards our bargain bin ad space. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:01, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::A long-time friend has been dealt with, the plugin is now re-enabled. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== User RouterIncident and a bunch of templates ==<br />
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Hi, I'm hoping you have had nice holidays. We all do need recovery. But it's bad when no active admin is available here.<br />
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Please delete that citation template, or just enter a link to [[285: Wikipedian Protester]]. Please delete also this categories: "All articles lacking reliable references" and "Articles lacking reliable references". We still have the incomplete category, that should be enough.<br />
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BTW: RouterIncident is maybe also on holiday, no action the last days.<br />
--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 17:04, 28 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I could not find these categories you speak of in the page creation log, but citation needed is gone now. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Please move some pages and edit the "List of all comics" ==<br />
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I can't move pages here, but this should work:<br />
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<nowiki>{{comicsrow|1245|2013-07-31|10 Day Forecast}}</nowiki><br />
*the correct page must be: "1245: 10 Day Forecast"<br />
*the ''title'' must be: "10 Day Forecast"<br />
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So I did not save this update because it would result into corrupt links:<br />
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<nowiki>xkcd.com/1245 | 10 Day Forecast (create) | number / title / talk | 10_day_forecast.png | 2013-07-31</nowiki><br />
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Please help, or give me the power to do this on my own.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:03, 1 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ooor instead of deviating from the title on xkcd, we could use an excellent feature to the comicsrow template put in by Waldir. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:20, 1 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Uh, I didn't know this feature.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 08:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:Verification needed ==<br />
This template is unnecessary, please delete it.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 08:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Please also delete the templates behind this non existing categories:<br />
:*Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates (2 members)<br />
:*Wikipedia protected templates (2 members)<br />
:--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 08:07, 2 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Holy dependency hell. Purged the lot. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 12:42, 2 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Can you nuke [[Talk:404: 404 Error]]? You forgot to delete it when you got rid of [[404: 404 Error]].<br />
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Also, any update on the thumbnail issue? They are still not displaying correctly See [[Special:UnusedFiles|unused files]]. --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 22:03, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Deleted. Thumbnails are a bit trickier, seeing as Jeff is the only one who has direct access to the server. Still plugging. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:08, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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For some reason, the wiki places the [[Main Page]] in the same categories as the current comic. This should be fixed, as the only category it should belong to is the [[:Category:Root category|root category]]. --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 16:30, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:FYI I have answered [[User:Oneforfortytwo]] on [[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|his talk page]]. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 19:01, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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One more thing: Can you edit [[1190: Time]] and remove all links to images after 2973:00? Seeing as there will not be any more of them uploaded, and some of them are showing up on the [[Special:WantedFiles|wanted files page]]. Also, can you restore the deleted image [[:File:starsmove.png]]? Originally, I thought there was nowhere to put it, but I realized that I can link to it at [[1190: Time/Pictures]]. --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 06:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 06:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Oh, can you delete [[1360: Old Files/info]]? Also, could we possibly get a page where people can post pages to be deleted? That would make it easier to report them. --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 19:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Can do. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Mkay, deleted the page, was in the process of making the page when I recalled that [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests]] and [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals]] tend to be the pages used for proposing deletion of pages. Page deletion doesn't come up incredibly often, although I could create the page if people really want it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:25, 30 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I found [[:Category:Pages to delete]]. Although you can't explain why to delete a page. Perhaps a template would be more appropriate. Speaking of which, can you delete [[:Category:Commissioned]], [[:File:16px-BlackHat head.png]], [[:File:spirit rewrite unknown author.png]], [[:File:tongue awareness.jpg]], [[Special:ListFiles/ImVeryAngryItsNotButter|all of these uploads]], and [[Special:ListFiles/Spongebog|the Lorenz uploads here]]?<br />
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By the way, [[User:DgbrtBOT]] is not selecting the xkcd.com licensing choice when uploading new comic images, causing all of them to show up in [[:Special:UncategorizedFiles]]. And [[User:Dgbrt]] appears to have gone AWOL. Is there any way we can contact him and get him to change his bot?<br />
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Finally, I think there should be a category for the pages listed [[:Special:UncategorizedPages|here]]. Maybe helper comic pages, seeing as there is a helper comic images? Or comic subpages? --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 23:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The template [[template:spam]] automagically includes the delete template. We used to have a delete template, but it literally saw no use. The black hat head is the site favicon and the tongue awareness image is used in an explanation. The others seem justifiable though. I'll submit a patch to dgbrt that oughta fix the image categorization thing. Comic subpages oughta be a fine name. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:19, 4 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Time animation—a little help maybe? ==<br />
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About the animated Time GIF, I actually prepared one right away at the end, but I haven't been able to get it to upload here, even though it's rather less than the stated size limit, 12 MB out of I think 40 MB. If anyone can suggest what might be going on, I'll be happy to try it out. I did ask in the XKCD forum, but didn't get any help there. Just in case it was a temporary thing, I'll go give it a shot here again after I post this. Wouldn't want to save face or anything if it actually works all of a sudden, after all.—[[User:KarMann|KarMann]] ([[User talk:KarMann|talk]]) 20:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Clean explains ==<br />
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Oh, I did some reverts (undo) today again, I'm not happy:<br />
*Ninja Turtles still belong to NASA<br />
*Bullsh.. sorry<br />
*Duplicate on some chess jokes<br />
*Math<br />
*And math again at some statistics (Increased Risk). <- ok, or (Increased Risk.)<br />
While you do fight against spam, I simply do fight against some similar windmills. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Many of these were hamfisted ones that were targeted at one change, and reverted everything else contained in the same edit. Some of them were legitimate, some of them seem to show minimal effort to look at context before you edit. It's getting to the point where it's actually kind of disruptive now. If something is not in your area of expertise, don't revert like you do currently. There's a reason why rollback privileges are not given to all users. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== 1269: Privacy Opinions ==<br />
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This edit war is useless. The add is just '''TL;DR'''. And I'm sure even you did not read it all. Please keep explains as short as possible, otherwise people don't read. For understanding my post read this (read it all, there is a final statement at the bottom):<br />
According to the title, the comic is about “opinions on internet privacy” in general. Six positions are offered as options. Four of the positions are tagged negatively by the author by their subtitles alone: the Crypto Nut, the Conspiracist, the Nihilist, and the Exhibitionist, all of which have negative valences in contemporary English. That the viewer is encouraged to identify negatively with these four positions is further encouraged by the content of the panels, as those characters are depicted either as having such boring lives that they have no need for privacy (the Crypto Nut, the Nihilist), or as being crazy (the Conspiracist, the Exhibitionist).<br />
A fifth position, the Philosopher, is tagged somewhat ambivalently by the author: Megan is depicted as boring her interlocutor, yet in the title text, the author admits that he is usually the Philosopher. Also, “Philosopher” in vernacular English is neutrally valenced, potentially having the ability to expound either wisdom (sophia) or sophistry. It is also a synonym for Sage, the sixth position. As the author condones his own movement from Philosopher to Sage, he thus indicates that the Philosopher is to be viewed negatively, even if it is a tempting position to hold.<br />
The title of the sixth position, the “Sage”, is positively valenced in contemporary English, and the author in the title text states that once he obtains a “burrito” – i.e., a “real” thing, he switches from the Philosopher to the Sage. The internal evidence presented thus far therefore is entirely consistent; the author encourages the reader to identify with the Sage.<br />
By presenting five negatively tagged positions followed by a positively tagged sixth and final one, the author follows a rhetorical commonplace of listing and refuting a number of positions one by one, concluding with the favored and best one, which is not refuted and should be accepted both on its own merits and by virtue of being the last one standing. The comic therefore implies that no other (significant) positions exist.<br />
Having completed the rhetorical analysis of the comic, we are now in a position to understand the meaning of “Internet Privacy”.<br />
Panels #3 and 5 directly reference the American NSA. Panel #5’s “exhibitionist” also references Google, but the characters in the panel appear to be NSA agents (one wears an official cap and they are viewing the exhibitionist on an official, government-looking monitor). Likewise, the focus of the “Nihilist” is that the joke is on the people who gather the data, rather than those who are subsequently able to make use of it (such as Facebook’s users rather than "Facebook" itself; i.e., Facebook's employees and, by extension, its advertisers). The content of the actual data is only mentioned in panels #2, 4, and 5, and in each panel, it is suggested that it is meaningless or trivial. The Sage underscores the notion that any data known about him does not bother him, and therefore must be meaningless or trivial. The reader is thus encouraged to believe that it does not actually matter whether others discover personal data abou t him/her.<br />
The comic is therefore what social theorists call *reductive*, because it reduces the range of possibilities of “Opinions on Internet Privacy” to an artificially and simplistically narrow subset; in this case, individuals concerned with government or corporate agencies using data that they have gathered on individuals, and the futility of worrying about such things. The comic does not admit the possibility of other “opinions on internet privacy” – namely, that individuals might have legitimate concerns with governmental or corporate uses of their data, let alone other individuals’ access to data that is assembled and distributed by corporations such as Facebook. The comic likewise does not consider the possibility of individuals having more interesting lives than the characters depicted, and therefore very real concerns about their privacy due to the activities that they engage in that are potentially more career limiting (should they be discovered) than obsessing about cryptography or eating a burrito.<br />
The comic is “functionally” reductive, as opposed to “intentionally” reductive, because the reduction is the function or effect of the comic for readers who read it straightforwardly (such as the poster who claimed it was “about” Edward Snowden), whether or not the author intended this reduction to occur. There is not enough internal evidence in the literary text (i.e., the comic) to maintain that the author intentionally excluded other viable opinions on internet privacy; it could be that they are just not on his radar. For example, we do not have enough information in the comic to claim that the author is against civil rights; it could be simply that he doesn’t often think about them. Likewise, it would exceed the evidence of the comic to claim that the author believes that schoolteachers who use the internet to facilitate legal but frowned-upon sexual behaviors should lose their jobs if they are found out due to internet privacy breaches; it could be that the author simply hasn’t bothered to worry about these matters if they don’t affect him personally. This adjudication – whether the comic is “intentionally” reductive or not – may only be made on the basis of external evidence; that is, data known about the author from sources beyond this comic.<br />
Use of such external evidence – historical, personal, psychological information about an author – is valid in determining the meaning of an author’s text, and is increasingly viable due to the accessibility of information about an individual on the internet today.<br />
Additional observations about the comic follow. <br />
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And when you did complete all that readings maybe you can summarize it, just in a way a reader would read.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:15, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:PRO TIP: explainxkcd is not guessxkcd.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:19, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I did actually read it, and goes well past merely defining words in the comic. It covers writer's craft and all of it is derived from valid analysis of text from the comic. There's maybe a couple of excess words that I edited out, but length is not a bad thing. I read it the first time, and it was a valuable analytical contribution to the explanation; I question the value of flat-out reverting major edits that significantly improve pages. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 18:33, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::First sentence is mapped to the title, the TL;DR section is at the bottom. OK?--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:10, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Uh, you cut the passage in half and split it up when it was referring back on itself? And you're accusing me of not bothering to read it? '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:26, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Uh, Oh, Ahh, I did not delete any content, I just asked about improvements. Read my comments, still much smaller than this adds.<br />
:::::Are you happy when people do not visit this site again because the explain is bullshit? TL;DR... I still prefer articles people will read.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:49, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I know you didn't delete anything. You cut it down the middle and pasted half the passage at the end of the article, with little regard for flow or structure. That's not a valuable edit, even if it's a smaller change than the initial passage addition. Having short explanations is not worth cutting out valuable information. Cutting out content that's irrelevant to the comic, yeah. Cutting out false relations and waffle, that's fine. Don't cut out well-written analysis.<br />
::::::Also, I'm noticing concurrent issues being raised against your edits again. Consider editing and working on top of edits instead of straight reverting them, and avoid antagonistic language. You already have one warning from the last time this happened. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:59, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I still disagree. The list of panel explains is overruled by a massive amount of text before. This is still not a helpful explanation.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 06:58, 30 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::It's not a helpful explanation for those incapable of reading or scanning a sizeable passage of text. It contains all the relevant information in a coherent and laid-out manner, with a bullet pointed list to draw attention to the frame-by-frame explanations for those who want to skip the intention and analysis. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 07:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Advertising ==<br />
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My Firefox AddOn NoScript did block the external page "projectwonderful.com". The untrusted picture [http://www.projectwonderful.com/img/uploads/pics/91967-1378268302.png] does not belong to "explainxkcd.com". Then clicking the picture brings me to this link: [[explain_xkcd:Advertise_Here]]. But, I still do not see any advertisement here at all, only this "wonderful project world", what's wrong?<br />
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I would like to pay here for a link to Randall's store (he doesn't know), but it has to be an internal picture to an external link. A user action is required, ask Randall about this security. External clicks do count, embedded content to external sites is a real insecure solution. Many modern browsers will not allow this. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The image does belong to us, it's just served by project wonderful when no advertisers are currently bidding on us. The word "advertise" used in the link title is in the verb form, not the noun; that page describes how to advertise on our site. That page contains our advertising guidelines and a few links to our project wonderful bidding page. There, you can create an account and bid on any of the four regions we have on offer. Our minimum rate is USD$3.8 per day, and they let you link any image to any site. If you still can't advertise with us, post imgur links to screenshots to show me what you're doing.<br />
:Have you not said in the past that you are an employed software developer? Instead of advertising a site wholly unaffiliated to you, why not ask your boss to try his hand at advertising on explain xkcd? It's cheaper than most advertising outlets, and we have a large and valuable audience for your average technology company. Your company can probably easily muster the ~$15 per day needed to advertise in all our available regions, and the process takes about as long as creating an account on any other site on the internet. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 07:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A database error has occurred... ==<br />
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I did clean the cache, it seems no admin is required to fix this damn problem. Site was down but available now again. I will also talk to JEFF about this.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 14:54, 3 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
: New server coming soon. Hopefully these DB issues will stop... forever. --[[User:Jeff|<b><font color="orange">Jeff</font></b>]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== IP Users ==<br />
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I still do not like this mess: [[User:108.162.216.45]] and [[User:50.151.2.168]]. Users have to register for this.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 11:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No they don't? {{w|User:70.21.5.28}}. The page takes up so little space, it's not worth forcing them to do something they may not want to do. When our IP friend wants an account, they will make that choice on their own. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 16:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Someone else will use the IP 50.151.2.168 in the future. If that user also likes xkcd and explainxkcd he will find a history he never has done. Still a mess. Nevertheless you can be sure that I never will edit this without admins permission.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:39, 8 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Question: — or - ==<br />
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You're changing — to -, even while it looks to me like a (typical American) loooong dash at the picture. Original transcript by Randal on [[752]] is "Do you--", so I don't understand some of your latest edits. I'm changing &mdash to — ( on Linux). I did opt for removing the double spaces after a sentence, but is this dash also history? Like miles... --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:01, 22 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Eh, I just do it because it's only one character in the original comics. I don't actually have easy access to an mdash on my keyboard when I'm editing, I'll probably bind that to a key for future use. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:12, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
::My question was just: Is "—" wrong or not. You know I am German, but my OS and much more programs are running on English. That's because all that translations are just annoying. Nevertheless, at [[752]] the original transcript shows this: "Blonde: Do you--". this should be a long dash. And you did change many &mdash to "—", I just want to understand how to behave on this.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::There isn't really a codified grammatical rule for the length of a dash. It's mostly stylistic, but it seems to be a rather common convention that a short dash is for joining words, and a long mdash is for punctuation dashes. Again though, it's not on the keyboard and the vast majority of people probably don't pay attention to dash length when reading. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:41, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::You did introduce this in the past, my keyboard gives me on "ALT GR + SHIFT + -" just a "—". but we still have to decide about a rule on this. "-"--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Extension:Comments ==<br />
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Have you thought about trying [[mw:Extension:Comments|Extension:Comments]]? It was recently updated (July 2013) and looks like it would make commenting the explanations much more user-friendly. Could you make a little experiment to see if it works well? Say, install it so we can test and see if it works well? I'd be willing to help in the conversion of current comments to the new format, and we could even make it a long-term goal to eventually bring back all the comments from the blog :D --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:24, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
: I did edit the incomplete template, ERROR is not correct. But a hint to the missing reason is great.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:24, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
: From prior experience, the comments plugin does generate a lot of meta-pages with scrambled names that made me prioritize other things over it, but I can totally run it for a few days to see how things go. In a few weeks, my free time will skyrocket and I should be able to install and monitor the plugin then. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:40, 24 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Hey Davidy. I wonder if you're able to try this out. If so, let me know how I can help!<br />
:: On the other hand, I am disappointed to hear that the comments extension doesn't integrate neatly with mediawiki. Are you aware of any similar choice that may be better-behaved? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:33, 4 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== New comics BOT ==<br />
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I think that BOT is doing the job right now. Maybe there is a possibility to install it on this server, not much but some PERL modules are required, it should work on any OS. Nevertheless since I could see the updates in general did happen at 04:00 UTC I will implement a new script starting at 04:00 UTC, polling again after that again. But since I don't want to poll xkcd too much that poll would stop after fifteen minutes. Then there will be just a five minute schedule, until a new comic is found.<br />
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BTW: <nowiki>$text .= "{{comicsrow|$comic_num|$date|$comic_name|$picture_name}}\n"; </nowiki> means I will always add the optional parameter for the picture. Not all picture did work properly in the past, so I decided to include this parameter to get a working picture link on the main page. Any suggestions are welcome. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:50, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I have an idea for that, but I have a metric buttload of things that I need to do by the end of this week. I've seen comics come out several hours late so I think polling for four hours would still be apt, and I'm sure Randall's server could handle us polling him a little faster. Having a explanation page up at the same time as a new comic is really huge. I believe I have a solution for the comicsrow problem, but I also don't know Perl. I could probably figure it out in a weekend though. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:19, 27 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete tag at main page ==<br />
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Am I wrong, or is every new comic complete at the main page in the future? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:16, 9 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:When we include a comic page on the main page, templates and categories are preserved. While that's good for page layout and the like, it's not so good when we have templates that impart their categories upon the inheriting page, like the incomplete template did. It was tagging the main page as incomplete whenever the newest comic was marked as incomplete. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:27, 9 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yezzz, I understand. But presenting a new incomplete page in this way is not good. The counter has to be adjusted. But I'm serious on this and maybe some ''noinclude'' tags may help. While the main page should not be counted, the page it presents, if incomplete or not (<-the problem), should presented at the proper state. My bot will cover any solutions for further uploads. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:40, 9 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::What counter? The counter on the main page doesn't take into account the main page itself, and the transcluded page is shown in its entirety, save for the discussion page and one category. What's the problem here? '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:37, 10 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== I don't mind about a 24 hour ban... ==<br />
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...but after that I did try to do some more talks here:<br />
http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mrarch&curid=13771&diff=55110&oldid=55109<br />
DELETED!<br />
I'm still the pest here, or what? I'm still hoping you will understand my actions here. I'm working much on the health of this board, talking to Jeff and many more here. And Mrarch just did delete my message. I'm German, so it could happen that I do use a sentence which could be interpreted different to my meanings. BUT: I just want to support this site as much I can do. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 00:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh nuts, didn't see that. I though he was just setting up his own user and talk pages. I'll leave a notice. Also, try to cooperate, and practice your English. There ''are'' a few naunces in his arguments that you're gliding over. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:45, 13 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::And oh nuts, we need some more people to review all the updates here. We have many new people here, doing great edits, but sometimes a correction is needed. I will still do this here, but you can be sure I will be much more polite when an edit-war does happen. I don't mind - xkcd is just fun. That counts! --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 00:26, 14 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== BOT uploads at the comic list ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
I can remove that "Picture.png" add, but I think it's more safe to use this optional parameter. Sometimes upper case and lower case did cause some problems. I'm trying to prevent this by providing the image link my BOT did upload here.<br />
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On January 1 my BOT did fail because the picture was not accepted at this Wiki, and my BOT stops on every unexpected error. The BOT doesn't understand Randall and so, when the BOT is running on problems it simply does nothing.<br />
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I've had serious problems to connect this site since a few deys, I don't understand why, but my BOT is doing it's job as planed.<br />
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Looking forward to some translations...<br />
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--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Hm? What cases cause it to fail? Imma make this work. In cases of ambiguity, we could always err on the side of caution and include the parameter. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::The BOT did fail on January 1. because the "PNG" was in fact an "Adobe XMP" format and the upload was rejected by this site. A BOT barely can't handle this unexpected mess. This requires human action and the BOT stops further actions. The optional parameter will be posted anyway; if BOT doesn't fail.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Incompleteness Tag. ==<br />
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My browser (Chrome) is showing that 137: Dreams is the incomplete comic of the day. I used the tags there as the page instructed. Did I use them incorrectly? (possibly it was supposed to be in the main page edit instead of the discussion? I am fairly new here)This is the algorithm now. 19:10, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The explanation page is already tagged. Tagging the discussion page marks the discussion page as incomplete. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:31, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I did edit this discussion page with a nowiki marker. And Anomulus please sign your comments in the proper way, it's much more easy to discuss with an user instead of just a date. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I did move some comics back to the incomplete section, a full explain is still more worth than a 0% ratio here. Nevertheless I am still thinking, not really working, on a German translation. But just because the ratio looks great here I will focus on that translation soon. Stay tuned...--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:18, 2 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:If our numbers are right, a very healthy portion of our visitors should be German and you shouldn't have to be concerned with taking on the entire burden of translation. It's probably good to be conservative with the incomplete tag, it reduces the burden on of research on translators if they only have to change the language. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:33, 2 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete Explanation of the Day ==<br />
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Some thoughts:<br />
*[[explain xkcd:Incomplete Explanation of the Day]]: No need for the daily update, it's also still at the top.<br />
*[[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] should contain a link to this: [[:Category:Incomplete explanations|Incomplete explanations]].<br />
--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:It takes very little extra effort to also update the project page, so I just do it anyways. The incomplete explanation of the day is supposed to be a focusing effort, to finish off one comic at a time. A link to the list of all the incomplete comics wasn't working, which is why I started drawing attention to individual comics in the sitenotice. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:55, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
::So tell me what's wrong with this link: [[:Category:Incomplete explanations|Incomplete explanations]]. In my opinion this could be still placed at the top.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:26, 10 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Mostly cuz that didn't work when it was on the main page, and calling attention to specific comics has worked exceedingly well. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 06:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't understand, there was a similar link in the past.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:13, 11 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::And in the past, that link had almost no effect on the incomplete pages count. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:54, 11 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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===I just did remove a typo===<br />
<code>:"1930s" has "Santa Claus is Coming to Town". a</code><br />
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If you can not accept my typo correction on that simple damn "a" I will give up here. And I'm not sorry. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 00:40, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:In the same edit I removed whitespace from the page, as is not immediately obvious from diffs but can be seen from the edit size numbers. The "a" has been gone in each of my proceeding edits, as you can see in the revision log if you would care to read it. Autoreverting is bad. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== 1037: Umwelt ==<br />
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Hi, I'm sorry. But as my comments did say, some texts maybe helpful; but I can't fix all that layout issues. The individual pictures are still great, some ideas on that edits are nice, but it does not work in the full context. And those massive edits don't give both of us a way to review them all. I just did that revert because it doesn't work. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The layout is still broken... I don't like edits without using a preview to verify a proper layout — and I do not like massive edits no one can follow.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Image resizing will be fixed soon. Give it at most three weeks. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== New admin proposal ==<br />
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Please take a look [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#New admin|here]]. Cheers, [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:36, 4 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:comic ==<br />
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Isn't this just a revert and a freeze to a former revert done by me? Others did play then again on the main page appearance, but changes at this should be only possible for people not experimenting. The entire main page has to be protected. That page isn't a playground.<br />
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And on that admin discussions on me: My most posts are related to language, layout, and something — and I still don't like all those esoteric explains on ASSes, PENISpumps, ... But an admin has to work mostly on different issues.<br />
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Randall does primarily focus on "romance, sarcasm, math, and language.". Randall does more, so the SEX category is here, but I think we have to focus on the "primarily focus" at the headlines on explain pages first.<br />
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My advice here: Do NOT try to enhance well working templates, other statements are much more important.<br />
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--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 00:18, 8 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:It's not quite a revert, he changed how linking works for the first comic page, added jump links to the first and last pages and attempted a few fixes. I just fixed a few omissions that he made. Admin work usually tends to be focused on non-content stuff, yeah, but I feel like those people maybe probably might be right. Innuendo in comics not explicitly mentioning sex exist. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Mail send ==<br />
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It's still not easy to find important mails, I nearly lost yours but now you got a reply. Your issues needs a test, I will do that soon. And sorry for this three month late reply. Maybe I have been blind, I just found your message today.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:46, 17 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The site GitHub.com did send a message to me from "David ???(possibly your surname)" but the address was in fact <nowiki>notifications@github.com</nowiki>. So this reply was stupid by me because that mail will never reach you.<br />
:Please send me a notification here because I don't visit that GitHub site on a regular base. Last visit was two or three months ago. It's just a backup for myself and available to everyone who likes.<br />
:Your request could remove links to GIF or JPG files, so I decided to include the picture link always because it does work on that template. Dynamic comics are much more complicated and my BOT stops to post any update here if something went wrong. I'm still thinking about a better logging on that, My idea is still: If the BOT decides not to post chaos here it should save any content for later manual analysis. But that's a big deal because Randall's comics are so different...<br />
:Nevertheless the BOT covers most comics just in time, I know people are happy on this — and when the comic is too sophisticated, it just stops to prevent chaos here.<br />
:--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:41, 18 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== File:lorenz-new.png ==<br />
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Moving this to File:lorenz.png does not work like my former updates, maybe it's some cache on the server. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:31, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Huh. I'll have to take a look at that. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The file on the server looks right. It'll probably update itself on the caching servers in good time. The distortion is annoying though. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Can you clear the cache? The page [[1350]] still looks bad like my former reverted updates. But maybe we use this just a test for the servers. Uploads are easy, but updates are the hell. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Eff it, let's wait on it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::One idea: Try "Lorenz.png" instead of "lorenz.png". While WIKI is mostly case insensitive the servers maybe are. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== German page ==<br />
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Is it still possible to create a German page here? I'm complete (honestly mostly) on my investigations for presenting a proper German page. On a positive reply I will present some more details (maybe screenshots) of my local wiki and a plan on how to bring it up to public. And consider, this would not only be for German readers, we have Austria, Switzerland, and many other parts in Europe. I would be happy to support this, and my BOT would be too. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:37, 30 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:It's still possible, gonna do it after we clear out all the incomplete pages as promised.'''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::So then this never would be happen. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:50, 30 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::No, because we'll eventually clear out our backlog of old, incomplete articles. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:24, 30 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== /r/xkcd sitenotice ==<br />
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May I ask why you've added a sitenotice about /r/xkcd? The /r/xkcd sub is controlled by /u/soccer, who links to racist, xenophobic and misogynistic content regularly. Randall has even spoken in support of a petition for /u/soccer to be removed as a mod (which of course didn't happen because reddit doesn't do that). /r/xkcdcomic is a non-hateful alternative, one that Randall supports, and it has more users than /r/xkcd. [[User:LadyMondegreen|LadyMondegreen]] ([[User talk:LadyMondegreen|talk]]) 13:19, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:If you look closely at the text and click on the link, you'll see that it actually says and links to xkcdcomic. Also, /r/xkcd is currently at 40000 subs and hit 10000 a few years ago. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:38, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Hmmm, yeah, I'm not sure how I got that backwards, but I did. Someone pointed it out to me on IRC and I guess I didn't look closely enough. Sorry about that. [[User:LadyMondegreen|LadyMondegreen]] ([[User talk:LadyMondegreen|talk]]) 19:35, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Any idea on this: [[A Smarter Planet]] ==<br />
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This should be mentioned here, but that article doesn't represent a comic from the main page. Maybe it should be merged to [[Randall]]? What do you think? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:17, 6 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:That's not a bad idea. I'll put that on the list of things to do. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:56, 10 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry, I've forgotten to post a reply here. I did put in a new template for this special issue because it's different to a common comic from xkcd. A standard comic template never can cover this. And when this template is complete it should be protected, but the resulting category page is still bad and I need help on this. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:55, 28 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I figured that when I tried it myself. It might be a bug with parserfunctions though. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:17, 29 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Do we have active admins here? ==<br />
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This site seems to be running into chaos. The former approved admins do not work that much here; and now I'm even missing you.<br />
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Maybe you are on holidays; if so, I'm just greeting with "Happy holiday". BUT this site still needs an admin.<br />
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You know I'm still looking forward on a German page for this, but this English page is still on my main focus. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:16, 9 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The image caching issue is caused by Cloudflare not refreshing the image that it serves as fast as we'd like it to. Outstanding admin requests and unsigned messages were left for one day. That's not inactivity. The only thing I saw being raised was the admin request, which was closer to a progress update to which you butted in with an irrelevant remark. The only conflict I see in talk pages is between you and other editors, and it's only mild disagreements and mostly civil discussion at the moment, so I'm pretty fine with it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:56, 10 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Minor edits ==<br />
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Hi, you are often doing minor edits like fixing some syntax or missing parentheses. If you would mark them as "minor edits" it could be ignored at the "Recent changes" page. Major changes could be found much more easier. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Incoming confirmation email: Domain of sender address expla0@vps.explainxkcd.com does not exist ==<br />
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Since the email address of incoming confirmation emails come from a non-existing domain, they are bounced so never reach me.<br />
<br />
From the mail logs:<br />
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<code><br />
2014-05-30T08:36:21.455368+02:00 snap sendmail[12564]: NOQUEUE: connect from vps.lunarpages.com [67.210.100.50] (may be forged) <br />
2014-05-30T08:36:22.049902+02:00 snap sendmail[12564]: s4U6aLdn012564: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=<expla0@vps.explainxkcd.com>, relay=vps.lunarpages.com [67.210.100.50] (may be forged), reject=553 5.1.8 <expla0@vps.explainxkcd.com>... Domain of sender address expla0@vps.explainxkcd.com does not exist <br />
2014-05-30T08:36:22.219369+02:00 snap sendmail[12564]: s4U6aLdn012564: from=<expla0@vps.explainxkcd.com>, size=2306, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=vps.lunarpages.com [67.210.100.50] (may be forged)<br />
</code> {{unsigned|Jeroenp}}<br />
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:You shouldn't need a confirmation email to contribute and use the site. Uh, that feature'll probably be turned off; how did you request the email that generated the above error? '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:21, 31 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Because at http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Preferences it says:<br />
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<blockquote><blockquote>E-mail address is optional, but is needed for password resets, should you forget your password.You can also choose to let others contact you by e-mail through a link on your user or talk page. Your e-mail address is not revealed when other users contact you.<br /><br />
E-mail confirmation: Your e-mail address is not yet authenticated. No e-mail will be sent for any of the following features. <br /><br />
[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:ConfirmEmail Confirm your e-mail address]<br /><br />
* Enable e-mail from other users<br />
* Send me copies of e-mails I send to other users<br />
* E-mail me when a page on my watchlist is changed<br />
* E-mail me when my user talk page is changed<br />
* E-mail me also for minor edits of pages<br />
</blockquote></blockquote><br />
::So I used this to send a confirmation email: http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:ConfirmEmail<br />
::[[User:Jeroenp|Jeroenp]] ([[User talk:Jeroenp|talk]]) 19:13, 31 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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The lunarpages do not know to set up a proper Mail Server. My Mail Servers also would never accept this until I whitelist them. Sadly I still have to do this for some customers — also big customers in the US. Reasons because this mail isn't valid:<br />
*dig vps.lunarpages.com:<br />
;; ANSWER SECTION:<br />
vps.lunarpages.com. 3600 IN A 80.156.86.78<br />
vps.lunarpages.com. 3600 IN A 62.157.140.133<br />
*whois 67.210.100.50:<br />
The answer belongs to LunarPages.<br />
*But 67.210.100.50 isn't a registered MX entry for the domain "lunarpages.com":<br />
lunarpages.com. 300 IN MX 0 sharpmail-new.lunarpages.com.<br />
*which is:<br />
sharpmail-new.lunarpages.com. 300 IN A 74.50.25.50<br />
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I'm sorry, but fighting against SPAM is important and a proper Mail and DNS configuration is mandatory. Maybe those admins at LP do need some help and advise.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:06, 2 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:If you don't have anything useful to say, don't say it. You don't have to be in on every single conversation on the wiki. The issue is being dealt with. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:45, 3 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== "Feeling old" category ==<br />
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Hello, Davidy22. I noticed that you deleted the "Feeling old" category I made a while ago due to being "tenuous, not significant enough." In the interest of becoming a better contributor to the wiki, could you explain further on significance for a new category?<br />
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I realize that there are various qualifications that a category has to fulfill, lest it only add clutter to the wiki. A category ought to be simple, memorable, and concise. It should refer to something within or about the strip, be deliberate, and be objective. And, ideally, it should apply to a fair number of strips. I figured that the four strips that included the motif of "character/Randall reflects on how distant the seemingly-recent past is" all used it significantly, as a central theme or as a punchline. I personally feel that Randall hasn't exhausted his use of this motif, and therefore it warrants its own category for future comics, saving time in future explanations and aiding readers of past explanations.<br />
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(My one personal issue with it is that the phrase "feeling old" does not feel concise or specific enough, but I couldn't think of a single word or a better two-word phrase to describe it.) -- [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.21|108.162.216.21]] 18:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:I hope you (Or Davidy22) don't mind me starting off this conversation. Categories are not meant to be used as a tag cloud. Categories are a concrete thing in the comic such as [[:Category:Comics with color]], [[:Category:Red Spiders]]. They are not motifs or feelings about the comic. We don't have categories for happy comics and sad comics, and I can't think of a persuasive enough argument to allow them. Until there's a significant number of comics with "I feel old" or "I'm getting old" or "#FeelingOld" (eww) in the text, I'd hold off on trying to push this one through. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 05:55, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Part of the deletion ''was'' because it only had four comics under it. The only times I've allowed categories with that few comics behind them was when they were put forward by registered users who I could make promise to maintain them. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::: Okay, so ''feeling'' old is a bad category name. Categories that sound subjective in general are bad. Perhaps "Aging" could work? And also, courtesy of two particular xkcd blogs, I know of at least 10 comics that would belong to it: [[218]], [[354]], [[447]], [[493]], [[647]], [[891]], [[973]], [[1093]], [[1393]], and the recently posted [[1408]]. - [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.21|108.162.216.21]] 03:38, 16 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Weird formatting bug ==<br />
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I remember back when I had asked about skins you had told me to mention if there was anything off. Well, it's nothing major, but [http://puu.sh/ceEv7.png this] seems to happen on the Main Page alone on the monobook skin. I can't say I've ever seen this before... [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 16:55, 16 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Mmmm, testing does not give me the same bug, but that part of the page is still malformed. I'll get on that. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:58, 16 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Dont change other peoples comments ==<br />
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When the user clicks "add a topic" in the comments block a new section is added. When a user does this you modify it to a heading style you prefer. This is against every design principal I know of. You have 3 legitimate choices: remove the button, style the header so it pleases you more, or let it be. Since this is a standard part of the wiki and updading versions would likely undo your changes, I would sugest that you simply learn to live with it, as it is not objectivly ugly. <br />
When I find myself in times of trouble<br />
Mother Mary comes to me<br />
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be<br />
And in my hour of darkness<br />
She is standing right in front of me<br />
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be<br />
Let it be, let it be<br />
Let it be, let it be<br />
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be<br />
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.209|108.162.216.209]] 13:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:It's not actually done because the header is ugly, it's done because of an error case that occurs when the discussion page is transcluded onto the main explanation page, that came up a while back. It would probably be better to remove that button instead of having to manually change every discussion page header, and I'll get to that when I have the time. Also, note how I only modify headers in explanation talk pages, where the error can occur; headers in user talk pages and the community portal are unchanged. Also, updating between mediawiki versions does not change the contents of (most) pages, so it wouldn't actually undo what I'm doing. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 14:54, 21 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Am I allowed to undo other peoples comments when they include blatant racism? See Weatherlawyer's comments on [[500: Election]] and [[522: Google Trends]]. --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 09:28, 31 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::No. You are not the judge of what other people are allowed to say. If other people say something questionable, they will be warned and/or banned. On the subject his his specific comments, they doesn't seem overtly racist in 500, just heavily politically skewed, but 522 seems pushing it. I'll warn him for now. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:32, 31 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::With respect, referring to 'Only having voted for a chimpanzee twice' is (to me at least) an obvious racial slur aimed at Obama. I have no issue with anyone posting inflammatory comments with regard to his politics/policy/decisions as President/what he stands for etc etc etc, but racism is not ok. --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 21:10, 31 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::Chimp in the general lexicon is used to describe someone mentally challenged, not black. I must say it's quite hard to discern exactly who or what he's talking about because it feels like he's just making comments for the sake of making lots of comments. His statement about texas being granted statehood probably doesn't support the idea that he's talking about Obama, since they're not very supportive of him to begin with. Texas to my knowledge has been a republican state, so unless he really doesn't know what he's talking about, I'd say it's more likely that he's talking about one or more of the recent Republican presidents. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:47, 31 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Other explanations ==<br />
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What if we tried to include explanations for the What if? portion of xkcd? -- [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 19:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
{{Color|#AAA|(p.s. - I'm not sure how to get my question to look like it's written on graph paper)}}<br />
:That question comes up every once in a while. My response to the first one was that those things tend to be self explanatory and that the wiki is for the comic, but this'll be the fourth time it's been suggested. I dunno, how would it be formatted on the main page? '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:01, 4 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Format indeed... also I understand what you mean about self explanatory - I'd say at least 85% of each entry is quite plain, simple, and straightforward. Most of the humor of the feature is not traditional "ah-ha!" humor (that comes from revelation of a twist on assumptions, or which might benefit from explanation). Every once in a while, though, that remaining 15% (often from the images, but sometimes from a {{w|factlet}} or two) contains a few nuggets of knowledge that make me yearn for discussion or comment, and occasionally clarification to one degree or another. In addition to possible issues of cherry-picking what's explained, and questions on how to format it, there's the question of the variability in release date of the comics (used to be every Tuesday, then Thursday and, if I'm not mistaken, the last two(?) have been on Friday, with a few weeks missed (sometimes with and sometimes without notice or explanation) - so how to catalog that? I'll append to this conversation whenever I get that feeling of "if only there was" and we'll keep it open for discussion, if that sounds good to you(?) -- [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 12:33, 5 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Probably just note the release date of each article, although I don't fancy to task of cataloging that. I dunno, drop me a message whenever you want. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 16:37, 5 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:i ==<br />
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I created that template for a reason. Unicode doesn't work right in many circumstances, especially on phones. Now people without Unicode support will see incorrect equations. Plus typing in a Unicode character is not easy, and not having an easy way to do it will guarantee it won't be used. That's why character templates exist on other wikis. <br />
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I copied the way of making the imaginary constant from Wikipedia. That's how the math template works. The Unicode version doesn't even look like an i in many fonts--the dot is missing. It looks like a weird squiggle that people won't recognize.<br />
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I really wish you would have done like other wikis and had a discussion (and let me know) before just deleting something. I'm lucky I happened to leave the tab open and happened to see it was deleted. <br />
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--[[User:Trlkly|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly|talk]]) 22:54, 23 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Huh, tested and it does seem to be broken on phones. I'll get restoring that. A lot of these templates don't tend to end up being used though, past their creation. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:33, 24 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Strong Language ==<br />
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Hey - I find it interesting that someone chose to create the category about "strong language" or something that you chose to delete because it had one comic. There are countless examples of "strong language", pretty much irrespective of what you consider to be "strong" (just search for one of the various "strong" words) but it's fascinating noone has felt strongly enough about it to make a category until 2015 -- [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 15:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:It's also that "Strong language" is a really subjective category name that doesn't hold the same boundary for everyone, and is gonna be tough to populate to a degree that satisfies everyone. Although the person who made the category still frequents the wiki, so maybe he's capable of maintaining it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Delete a page ==<br />
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I created a page [[Test Page]] to test a potential feature. I intended to delete it afterwards, but it seems I don't have permission to delete it. Could you do so? Alternatively, make it into a sandbox [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 03:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, sure. In the future, use [[explain xkcd:Sandbox]]. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::K [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 05:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Comic template ==<br />
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I made an upgraded version of the comic template that'll deal with [[Radiation]]'s broken navigation bar for once and for all. Could you please look over it to make sure it's all working fine, then replace the current template with it? Updated template is over [[User:Pixali/comictemplate/|here]] and can be viewed in action [[User_talk:Pixali/comictemplate/|here]]. [[User:Pixali|<font color="008000">Pixali</font>]] ([[User talk:Pixali|<font color="004b00">talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Pixali|<font color="004b00">contribs</font>]]) 02:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Tested, this implementation seems to break the back button. Documentation is incomplete and may need usage examples for the new parameters, but I can probably write that when this makes it to the actual implementation. When I'm free, I'll try and get it to work, there's a good start here. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:52, 4 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Got there before ya. I effectively rewrote the entire experimental template, fixing formatting & the broken back buttons while keeping the support for undefined numbers. I still have the examples up over at [[User_talk:Pixali/comictemplate/|the talk page]] for the new template so you can check it out there. I also tried to document it a bit better (inc. explaining the sort key better), but I'm not sure if it's satisfactory yet. [[User:Pixali|<font color="008000">Pixali</font>]] ([[User talk:Pixali|<font color="004b00">talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Pixali|<font color="004b00">contribs</font>]]) 04:51, 6 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Seems pretty solid. I'll fold it into the main template. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 06:42, 6 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Advertising? ==<br />
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Check the recent changes log. A page appears to have been made for the purpose of advertising or political rant or something (I didn't read much, it's long).<br />
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In any case, it's not relevant to this wiki. {{unsigned ip|Mikemk}}<br />
:Yeah, it happens. Looks like another admin got to it before I came home. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:46, 5 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== dgbrtBOT Problems ==<br />
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While I did update my OS to CentOS 7 this weekend I did some tests on my bot. But it seems that problem doesn't belong to my update because I can't get this site via https - only http works.<br />
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Broken: [https://explainxkcd.com//wiki/api.php https://explainxkcd.com//wiki/api.php]<br />
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Working: [http://explainxkcd.com//wiki/api.php http://explainxkcd.com//wiki/api.php]<br />
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My bot requires a secure login via https so I don't know how to fix this.<br />
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Browser request gives me "Error 521" and my bot is "Error code 2: 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable". <br />
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Even [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page] doesn't work for me.<br />
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Unless this is fixed my bot will not work.<br />
--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:57, 8 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:On it. Would it be possible for you to fall back on http while we work on that? xkcd comics aren't hugely security sensitive, so it should be fine. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:13, 8 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm glad to reach you so soon. And sadly this WIKI requires HTTPS for a bot to login. My attempts on plain HTTP did fail, I do need SSL. Did you change something here? On Friday my bot did work. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:28, 8 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::What's the error message with HTTP? '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:04, 9 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::"Logging in over plain HTTP is a bad idea, we would be sending secrets (passwords or cookies) in plaintext over an insecure connection. To protect against eavesdroppers, set protocol => 'https'..."<br />
::::I do accept this restriction; using https should be possible here for BOTs because a BOT can do many. If someone missuses my BOT account it would be bad for this site.<br />
::::Maybe I have to import a non trusted certificate (costs money to make it public), but I want still to be on a save path.<br />
::::--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hum, it would be bad if another party got your address. In other news, have you tried it again recently? It should work, I believe. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::PROBLEM SOLVED! And the secrets are reset, just in case...<br />
::::::I got an expected error message while trying to update the LATEST COMIC. Not allowed because it just exist. Looks good...<br />
::::::Next BOT run should work until it's an unexpected dynamic one done by Randall. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:24, 10 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
Bad news: Picture upload did work but then my bot failed. Error messages are not very helpful but I'm sure I'll figure it out. So I will do some tests tomorrow on that damn API changes. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Oof. If there's anything you need server side, tell me. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
More BAD news: I still have to figure out the reason for error messages like this: "Error code 0: at /opt/xkcd/xkcdtest.pl line 104." What the hell is "Error code 0"??? Sadly it seems I have to work on this a little bit more. AND gooooogle doesn't help me... --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:06, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Error code 0 is the default exit value in perl. It seems like you're terminating the script at line 104. It's a natural exit though, so it's probably part of your error checking. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:51, 13 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for help ==<br />
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I'm in the midst of a [[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals#Merge_Cueball_.26_Rob disagreement]] with another user about some general stylistic issues and I'd like to solicit broader input from the wiki community. Do you know a mechanism by which I can request such input? Thanks! [[User:Djbrasier|Djbrasier]] ([[User talk:Djbrasier|talk]]) 00:04, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Davidy22&action=edit&section=77<br />
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:The community portal would be the place to do it. People don't usually frequent there, but you'll get input over an extended period of time. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:24, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks. [[User:Djbrasier|Djbrasier]] ([[User talk:Djbrasier|talk]]) 15:29, 12 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== List of all comics broke recently ==<br />
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Thanks for adding "For comics from 1001-1500, see [[List of all comics (1001-1500)]]" to http://explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/List_of_all_comics_(full)<br />
But now links are being added in the wrong place. I'm just not sure why/how. [[User:Nealmcb|Nealmcb]] ([[User talk:Nealmcb|talk]]) 18:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:There's a couple of things I did wrong. Fix'd '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:40, 23 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The "incomplete explanation of the day" doesn't seem to be updated daily... ==<br />
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Should this be the case?--[[User:17jiangz1|17jiangz1]] ([[User talk:17jiangz1|talk]]) 08:06, 9 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Currently, it's whenever the current one is completed. It used to be per day, but we don't have as many incomplete comics left to cycle through, and the ones that are left, are difficult to fix and don't get frequent changes. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==What Ifs taken down? ==<br />
Hey man, I saw you took down the 'Short Answer Section', 'Alternate Universe Whatifs' and the 'Growth Rate' page. Is this because of the Creative Commons license, because you maybe don't want whatif-pages on this wiki or is it of something else? I really spent some time working on those two and maybe a genuine reason for taking them down would be appreciated [[User:Nk22|Nk22]] ([[User talk:Nk22|talk]]) 19:55, 21 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:The what if pages were literally just the contents of the main articles transferred over to here. Those articles are already Randall's answers to questions, well explained in-of themselves. They don't need any further assistance from us, and we're not providing a lot of value by just copying the text of his articles. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:02, 21 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::OK, I see the point you're making. Most of those don't go as deep as some of the comics and are basicly explinations themselves. I might as well just add links to the what-if.xkcd.com website for more info. [[User:Nk22|Nk22]] ([[User talk:Nk22|talk]]) 20:05, 21 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== You're a hero ==<br />
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I don't know how often you're told that. But you're a hero, and you're my hero. Keep doing an amazing job and avoid burn out. I'll be coming back in 2 weeks. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:07, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Being able to just set up pages and let users fill everything in really helps with the load. Makes it much less work than it may seem. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:19, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Green Hat ==<br />
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If Green Hat's one appearance is not sufficient for his own page, why does [[Brown Hat]] have his own page with only one appearance in [[399: Travelling Salesman Problem]]? --{{User:17jiangz1/signature|12:46, 05 May 2015}}<br />
:I was not a part of making that, and am not a huge fan of the existence of that page because of the precedent set. Weak precedent doesn't really justify making more though, as there are enough one-off characters to easily make the characters navbox very cluttered and unusable while providing little real value to visitors. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Unicode Theme ==<br />
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I'm sorry, I don't quite understand how unicode wasn't a significant theme in xkcd. It has been mentioned directly and indirectly, from the past into the present. Compared to "no title text", it seemed at least as significant of a category. What kinds of categories are considered significant? (It was significant to me.) {{unsigned|Azule}}<br />
:Hum, looking back, it *is* a central point of all four comics included. Might be more justifiable than the typical marginal category page. Just remember to maintain it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:10, 15 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Bot Problems==<br />
Can you see anything at the log files why my BOT can't create/edit a simple page here? Since I still get only "Error code: 0". I maybe have to debug the API itself. Picture upload should be fixed now. Someone did beautify the LATESTCOMIC template my bot didn't expect this and did a save STOP at that point. Let's see if the picture works again tomorrow, but I want to do the entire comic again. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I'll check soon, wee bit busy at the moment '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:28, 27 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for help. Picture upload works again since I adopt the beautified LATESTCOMIC page - I need that number to verify a new comic. My bot is doing nothing if that test fails. <br />
::But when I try to create a new page I still get NO information about the error. And I did many investigations so far. It's frustrating... --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::Please delete this:<br />
:::2 June 2015<br />
:::: (diff | hist) . . Nb Test 000001; 20:23 . . (+33) . . DgbrtBOT (Talk | contribs) (Created by dgbrtBOT)<br />
:::: (diff | hist) . . Nb 000001: Test 000001; 20:23 . . (+288) . . DgbrtBOT (Talk | contribs) (Created by dgbrtBOT)<br />
:::Bullshit... downgrading my BOT API to the former version did solve the problem. The documentation for the current MediaWiki:Bot is WRONG!!! I don't know why I haven't had this idea before.<br />
:::If my bot works again I will update the dgbrtBOT page on that status tomorrow. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:34, 2 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Huh. It might be that we're out of date, and you upgraded to a version incompatible with our mediawiki version. I'm gonna have to get on that eventually. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't think it's your MediaWiki version, my BOT API was just crap. Let's see if it does work again tomorrow. Picture uploads are already done by my bot again - even when people overwrite it. But maybe I've to do some minor fixes tomorrow, let's see. May the SCHWARTZ be with my MOG... --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::I suspect your newer version wasn't trying to break things, we *are* very out-of-date. The only way to really know is by upgrading the wiki and seeing if it breaks the bot again, I guess. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::::My latest API client was corrupt, not the wiki here itself. Your guess sounds a little bit like the test was done in "2001: A Space Odyssey" on HAL. But since my BOT can't talk like HAL I have to check the log-files afterwards. Today there was only ONE PROBLEM: An user here was faster than my BOT within just 2 minutes - should not happen very often.<br />
:::::::But if this happens again my BOT will get a new enhancement: If my BOT finds a just a few minutes old upload here it will override them all and create all the edits needed here. Nobody can write an explain by that time but my BOT would ensure all the proper changes would be done here. What do you think? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Sounds good. I could also restrict page creation to certain groups, so that an anonymous user doesn't pull the trigger so fast either. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:58, 3 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Let's see first if my BOT works again. But restricting page creation should not affect/effect the creation of TALK pages. Maybe overwrite this posts by my BOT would be the better option. Everything wrong would be cleaned up. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:09, 4 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
The problems are '''solved''' and I'm happy about that. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:40, 5 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I noticed. Good stuff. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Bad uppercase==<br />
Please delete this: [[:File:Antique_Factory.PNG]]. The correct lowercase picture is done by me. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Done '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Please delete==<br />
Please delete this [[:File:1540.jpg]] because it's the wrong name. I did change [[1540: Hemingway]] to the correct file uploaded by my BOT.<br />
For the first time my BOT reverted an existing page because some standards did miss. My BOT was late (13:35 Nk22 vs. 13:48 dgbrtBOT) but my BOT was still acting correct and did all the further actions needed. [[User:Nk22|Nk22]] got a message by me. My BOT acts every 2 minutes so it seems I have to solve a cache problem, maybe at Randall's cloud... --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Dunnered '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. A new upload on the correct image did last more than three hours for me to see. My BOT suffers on the same Cloud Cache problems. I've no idea to solve this damn clod cache. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:54, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== BOT problems, CLOUD problems ==<br />
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My BOT still got the old comic while other people did upload the new one in a corrupt way. So let's define some rules for my BOT to be slightly more violent. For now I'm only checking if also the comic-name redirect exists. But I think that my BOT should test all required updates here, and if something is missing it would do a clean job here. Wrong picture uploads and more will still have to be solved manually. It will only a few minutes and I don't think that it will delete many essential contents, and even if it does it will be available at the history.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:11, 22 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Delete Template ==<br />
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Really? That's weird, [[Template:Delete]] is showing up blank and redlinked for me. <span style="background:#0064de;font-size:12px;padding:4px 12px;border-radius:8px;">[[User talk:AgentMuffin|<span style="color:#f0faff;">~AgentMuffin</span>]]</span><br />
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== Kudos on fighting spam ! ==<br />
I don't know if anyone tells you this.. You do an amazing job to keep all this working smoothly. It was especially evident in your current spam fighting. You were able to undo things even before anyone sees it. Amazing work man ! Keep it up. We are all with you, just holler somewhere on main page if you need help and we'll be there. (Well I haven't opened an account yet but I try to help anonymously...) Kudos again.. I'll buy you a drink if we ever meet and you mention that you are Davidy22 :D [[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.216|199.27.130.216]] 10:48, 12 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:If I was good at this sysadmin thing, there just shouldn't be any spam. Took a whole day to figure out a configuration that keeps it at a manageable level, but stuff is still slipping through the cracks. I'll get to polishing it off in the weekend. Thanks for the support though. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 17:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I second the anonymous praise here. All of it, both spam and keeping the page up and running. I did not even notice any spam, not before I read your note at the bottom below the ''Should we change the tagline?'' discussion. How does it manifest it self (can you shown an example, or is it not just reverted but completely deleted from the pages?). Great work no matter! --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 22:24, 13 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::If you take a look at the deletion log, you'll see [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Log/delete all the garbage] that appeared here in the last few days. There's also some vandalism in [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Miscellaneous&action=history Miscellaneous], and no other community portal, which is suspicious. This just cropped up in the last few days, not sure why spammers decided to target us again. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::Did it fall together with the "Should we change the tagline? What do you want the new one to be? Discuss it here!" banner at the top, that links to the site that was spammed? That might make sense? Thanks for answering, now I understand what type of Spam we are being subjected too, and also why I did not see these pages from normal use. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:29, 14 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yeah, links from the main page probably determine where the spammers are targeting, but I don't know why they decided to start targeting us after all this time leaving us alone. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 07:42, 14 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Someone might have linked the misc page from some other site (reddit/tumblr/etc.) after banner was put up and the spammers might have just followed the link when crawling that site. That seems to be logical explanation of why it started just after we put up that banner. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.216|199.27.130.216]] 22:08, 14 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::::: Well, i personally think that Davidy is doing a great job with handling this spam situation, and he deserves a lot more credit than what he's getting. So thanks, Davidy, for making sure the site is still functional. P.S. Sorry about the lack of signature. i just joined the channel today and i haven't figured everything out yet. {{unsigned|Flamewolf}}<br />
::::::::If I were doing a good job, there wouldn't be spam to clean up in the first place. I'm trying a bunch of things but the spammers are fairly smart. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 18:27, 18 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:This thread has gone too deep, I'm coming out to first level. ;-) Alright, you could try couple of things. You first want to know where the spammers are coming from and if you can stop them at source. You might have to add tracking on what previous site is the user coming from. If all spam bots are coming from single source, we could request the source site that links us to modify/hide their links. Second, are the spam accounts posting from different IPs every time ? Otherwise you could place a temporary IP based ban. Third, I'm interested in knowing why the bots are creating accounts while they could edit the pages anonymously. This might tell us about the algorithm they are using. And how are accounts treated differently than anon users ? Do they not get captcha while posting ? In which case, you could enable captacha's for users with accounts as well. EDIT: I'm the same guy as the OP of this thread (IP : 199.27.130.216). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.153|108.162.245.153]] 11:18, 19 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:And in case you haven't seen this, take a look at [[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam this mediawiki page]] about spam fighting. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.153|108.162.245.153]] 11:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Another observation by looking at recent changes / deletion log, half the edits seem to be by bots, while half of them appear as if real people are behind this. There are companies out there that take contracts to and employ people to manually circumvent the spam protection strategies. If this is the case, we need a different strategy. That's why it's so important to know the nature of spammers and what are they using.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.153|108.162.245.153]] 11:48, 19 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, i've had an idea for maybe stopping or slowing this. Maybe we could find a way to trace where all these accounts are coming from and block that place's IP from connecting to the website? --[[User:Flamewolf|Flamewolf]] ([[User talk:Flamewolf|talk]]) 15:26, 19 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Alright, so, we're using cloudflare as a CDN and intermediary for traffic for performance reasons, and they obscure IP addresses. There's a fix that we've yet to implement, but something always seems to get in the way in real life. IP banning is a little weak because of this. Users with accounts also get CAPTCHA'd, until they are at least 3 days old and have at least 10 edits. I'm not sure why the spambots make accounts, besides gunking up our database with more garbage. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:00, 20 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: Hey, good job! Whatever steps you took, seem to be working. Spam is nowhere to be seen. [[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:RecentChanges Recent changes]] are all clean. Well done ! :) [[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.216|199.27.130.216]] 05:38, 22 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::The last thing I changed was a permissions thing shutting off talk page creation for new users. Now that's over with, I'm going to have to dive back into that mess of a discussion over the tagline again. Blergh, with finals coming up too. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:54, 23 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about spam ==<br />
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If I see spam on a talk page, such as what is present on the current comic's talk page, should I delete it? I don't want to get in trouble for messing with other people's posts. [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 13:31, 20 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Spambots aren't people, go nuts. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 18:25, 20 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I just spotted this [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1613:_The_Three_Laws_of_Robotics&oldid=112929 spam] where the entire [[1613]] was deleted. I had just added something today, and found it was missing. I have of course corrected it, but could there be more? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:52, 20 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Creation of disussion pages for new comics ==<br />
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Hi Davidy22. I have recently seen at least two cases where people wish to make a comment on a new comic, but cannot because the page has no been created (and they do not have the right to do so). For instance I even had [[User_talk:Kynde#Please_create_the_discussion_page_for_today.27s_comic.|a message]] from someone who could see I was making changes (I guess). Would it be possible for the BOT to create the discussion page empty like I did here [[Talk:1654: Universal Install Script]], with a not shown reminder about signing comments? That would help some users of explain xkcd who do not wish to make a user account. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:45, 11 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I can leave a message in dgbrt's talk page. I'll push him the changes needed to make it happen as well. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:51, 11 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Great, it would help some of the early users :-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 22:22, 12 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi Davidy22 and hi [[User:Kynde|Kynde]]. Sorry, I'm late. Please check my talk page for further progress.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Davidy does the boot not work at all now? Posted a reply on [[User_talk:Dgbrt#Making_discussion_pages|Dgbrt's talk page]]. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 17:06, 11 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Errors in counting "known appearances" for characters ==<br />
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Hi Davidy22. I have seen this error more than once, and today with a comic featuring [[Danish]] it once again became very clear that something was wrong (impossible to spot for Cueball and the other main characters). On her page it says 16 know appearances. But on the page [[:Category:Comics featuring Danish]] it says 18, and even though one of these are the main page (which will change Wednesday when the next comic is released) there is one too few in the count. Maybe it will correct it self later? I think I have seen the same for [[Hair Bun Girl]] but her count is up to date now. But it is typically on the release days that people would pass these pages, so it is a shame if it first works later. Just so you can check it out, and if you know what's going on let me know ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:08, 21 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
:So, the way the explanation on the main page works, we take the number in [[Template:LATESTCOMIC]] and find the page that is named that number. Every comic in this wiki must have a correspoding page for their number that redirects to the comic explanation to make the forward/backward buttons work and for the main page to automatically point to the latest explanation without need for us to allow bots to modify the main page directly. The entire text of the explanation is included in the main page in this process, including categories. The [[Template:comic discussion|discussion template]] actually has a check for the title of the current page, and it doesn't render if it's the main page. We can do a similar thing to prevent categories from being assimilated into the main page, create a template that inserts the check around the categories and have a bot remove the template when the comic isn't the newest one anymore. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:47, 26 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
::That would be great. Guess you have more important things on your mind right now. Such a shame this should happen when this crazy april fool came out. It probably hinders some people in using this page to help explain. Good luck with making it work. I tried to read the post on the community page but did not really understand why it happened. It cannot be related to the Garden comic can it? And it was working fine all weekend. So nothing with April 1st either... [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:14, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::The traffic is slugging our servers around and making a bunch of things on the wiki weird. I'm trying to alleviate the symptoms, but stuff like styles not working is the traffic's fault. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::So because people come in here due to the Garden comic there is so much run on Explain for a work week that it is still not working? If that is true Randall has done it again with his Nerd sniping! And yes I'm very guilty and would have been smeared all over the side walk by the truck had it been Black Hat rather than Randall who did this to me ;-) [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:53, 8 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki continuity ==<br />
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Hey - I noticed that neither of the two 'crats have been active since mid-late 2015. Have you been in contact with them? People may come and go from a wiki, but it'd be a shame to lose contact with the only folks who have the ability to promote admins. A wiki-reader, ''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]</sup> 01:32, 24 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I do actually keep in touch with [[User:Jeff|Jeff]] still, but Lcarsos is AWOL as far as I know. Jeff and I have server access, and I technically could make myself a beauracrat if I wanted to, I just wanted Jeff to be ok with it first and never asked. Jeff is still alive though, and I can get him to promote an admin if the community ever agrees that a user should be upgraded. I'm looking at kynde in particular, he does a lot here. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:47, 26 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Hey thanks Davidy. I'm not sure I'm up for the task though. I do actually not know that much about computers or what it means being an admin on such a page here. But I really appreciate the thought and the notice. Funny that Jeff wrote the note of the 100 mil. views only six days after the post from Philosopher. I had not heard about Jeff before, but read about him after that. Oh and also spotted that DGBRt works on the bot making auto discussion pages. Maybe it works here on April 1st (a comic I'm looking much forward to. Where is it. It's noon in Europe I cannot wait any longer ;-)--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:50, 1 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi Davidy. As you can obviously see I have been contributing quite a lot to explain xkcd lately. But it is time I took a break as I simply have spend too much time on xkcd... So I will take a break at least for the rest of 2016 from posting here. I hope to return later. Since I plan to stop completely from contributing after this post, I thought I at least would let someone know that it was a choice ;-) Best regards --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for all the work you've put in here, have a good holiday and I hope you'll be able to come back some time soon. You do good work here. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 17:21, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hi Davidy. Thanks for those words. I will not be back to me normal amount of editing, but I will start to contribute again some times. Just did on the [[2017]] comic. Nice to be back. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 10:25, 2 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Oh, good to see you back already. Take your time with it, don't burn yourself out on editing. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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;Complaining about Dbgrt:<br />
:Hi Davidy. I'm a bit tired of what happens lately with no. four top contributor back in the warzone. I would like to write something to you about why I feel I might end up taking another (longer?) break due to this... I hope you still would be sad to see me go, but these last few weeks it has been more with dread than enjoyment I come to these pages to see what has been written about my edits... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:55, 7 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::By the way just read through [[Talk:1806: Borrow Your Laptop]]. I have said a lot of what I have been thinking there now... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:31, 8 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I've had problems with dgbrt and other users before, I'll look into it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:15, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. It is developing into a heated discussion between mainly Dgbrt and the rest... I'm sure I also sometimes make bad edits, and could cause problems... But at the moment Dgbrt seems to believed I had agreed with him on his other points rather than just the transcript. I tried to write that it was the tone and style that provoked me (and it seems others). And also that he seems to wish different style than the others involved at the moment. He claims there are many who have issues with the current style, but apart from the transcript I have not seen many examples, and none that he links to. Mainly it is to be expected that those who has issues write, and those that have not are much less likely to write that they like something. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 10:08, 10 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hi again. I'm really getting sooo tired of the way Dgbrt writes to my edits (and others). So I have now written an angry reply to him here [[Talk:1805:_Unpublished_Discoveries]], and explained to him that I have also complained to you directly. Because it is just not OK to become personal because I missed a "]" or write as I explain in my comment on that talk page. Hope you will find time to do something about it before he scares other editors than me away! --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:06, 13 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Hope you will soon find time Davidy, because it just gets more and more out of hand between the two of us. I had not been back to edit since the March 11th until today (long time for me when a new comic was up yesterday), because I'm really getting depressed by the way Dgbrt acts. See his comment (and my reply) to my admission that I had talked to you here in the link above. As I said he scrutinizes everything I do and find it lacking. If I think I'm improving something he says I have ruined other peoples work, but he also just undos others work as well... I see that you also undid one of his undoings as your most recent edit here... For the newest comic [[1810]] I really believed I only followed the consensus in the discussion and made some really nice additions, in my opinion of course. I hardly deleted any info, but moved it around. And then almost instantly I [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKynde&diff=137247&oldid=136552 get this message]. And again he only looks at the red not at what I have actually written. When deleting a paragraph or moving around everything turns red. This is thus the second time in a row he goes after my edits like this. I have almost not looked at what he have done to my many edits from this weekend, but the one I for other reasons did look at today [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1803:_Location_Reviews&action=history he had undone]. I redid it, but to what purpose...? I'm really sad that it has come to this, and have no proof yet that it is other than Dgbrt that has anything in general against my edits. Though he keeps claiming so. Of course there will be some negative comments, but he writes as if he knows that many other editors dislike what I do. Maybe I should have agreed to be an admin back then... ;-) well probably not when I end up in such a stupid edit war :/ --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 22:14, 14 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Current lack of styles etc. ==<br />
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You obviously have more access than me, but simply turning on Chrome's Developer Tools shows all ''load.php'' script and style references are returning 404 status, but when you go to those references directly in a new tab they all display "No input file specified.".<br />
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And for me, the site doesn't seem to be slow in any way that would suggest lots of load.<br />
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[[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 16:04, 18 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:A simple search at google gave me this: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Load.php Manual:Load.php]. So someone with access to the server has to edit the file ".htaccess". If this doesn't help I would need the log-files from the server for further investigations. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 12:47, 7 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::It was permissions, didn't change htaccess when the problems started. Had a good few red herrings, figured it out eventually. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Looks much better now. Thanks! --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:01, 17 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== The current incomplete explanation in the spotlight is not incomplete. (Help us fix it!) ==<br />
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Every page says "The current incomplete explanation in the spotlight is 1338: Land Mammals. Help us fix it!"<br />
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But 1338: Land Mammals doesn't have an incomplete notice, and the list of all complete pages does not list 1338: Land Mammals.<br />
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I think someone removed the incomplete status from 1338: Land Mammals but no one picked a new one for the spotlight.<br />
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[[Special:Contributions/108.162.215.131|108.162.215.131]] 03:16, 5 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for reminding me, I'll get better about checking on that. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:01, 17 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Category that should be deleted ==<br />
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Hi Davidy22. When [[1724]] came up someone added the [[:Category:Axiom of Choice]]. That took this category up to three. But I believe this may be warranted to keep that category. But I'll leave that to you. You deleted one I made once with three comics [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Ba%27al&action=edit&redlink=1 Category:Ba'al] (see [[1419: On the Phone]]).<br />
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But there was another category: [[:Category:Set theory]], which only referred to the two old Axiom of Choice comics and then as an under category had the Axiom of Choice category. So it was redundant. So I have removed any references to this category and moved relevant text to the axiom of choice.<br />
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So I will suggest that the set theory category page is deleted as with Ba'al. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:12, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Oh, how'd I miss that. Removed both categories, the axiom of choice category was too narrow and too infrequent to merit a category page. Thanks for telling me. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:56, 10 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I guess it is hard to keep up with all that happens here. I have made several new categories but now try to wait for at least five entries. For instance [[:Category:Google Glass]] and [[:Category:Climate change]] are recent addition, the latter very actual you could say with [[1732]]... And then I also just added [[Blondie]] and [[:Category:News anchor]] as new categories. I rephrased all three axiom of choice comics to refer to each other rather than to the category, so there is no loss of data for deleting both those categories. Let me know if you think I create too narrow categories. But as soon as there are more than five of anything, it become very tedious to refer back to each of them from each comic and a category is much to prefer. And with five already the chance that Randall soon add more comics is realistic. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:20, 13 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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New category to delete. Maybe there should be a category but not with this hopeless name: [[:Category:Comics featuring the floating sphere from the future]] --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:18, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Done '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:48, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Great. Now that we know it was only a two comic series I have made a new category for that series: [[:Category:Time traveling Sphere]]. I have also made a chronological list on the [[:Category:Comic series]] of each series to see how special this new series was in it's release schedule. There have been similar series, but never just like this. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 23:49, 25 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Why do you keep disorganizing my comments? ==<br />
I've run into the instance where I would leave a comment on a page and then get an email later, only to find out it was just you moving my comments around. I know you told me posts like this were supposed to follow a chronological order, but comments don't need to (nor do they have to) follow a chronological order, so why do you keep disorganizing my comments and put them all the way at the bottom of the page (even when they are in chronological order or mine aren't the only comments out of order, yet you move only mine anyways)? --[[User:JayRulesXKCD|JayRulesXKCD]] ([[User talk:JayRulesXKCD|talk]]) 22:45, 10 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:They do actually go in order. You break chronology when replying to a comment, and you signify that with indentation, but otherwise the custom on wikis is that new comments and comment threads go to the bottom. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:04, 10 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
::If they go in chronological order, then why don't others follow that formula? Because on the same thread (and others) I've noticed out-of-order comments. --[[User:JayRulesXKCD|JayRulesXKCD]] ([[User talk:JayRulesXKCD|talk]]) 23:13, 10 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Every top level comment goes in chronological order. The exception is when you're replying to another comment. Everyone else puts new top level comments at the bottom of the talk page. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:33, 11 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::I was talking about top level comments. --[[User:JayRulesXKCD|JayRulesXKCD]] ([[User talk:JayRulesXKCD|talk]]) 11:10, 11 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::And they should be in time order. Minor mistakes happpen sometimes, but posting straight to the top is just deliberately disregarding the flow of comments. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 18:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Current incomplete explanation ==<br />
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The "current incomplete explanation in the spotlight" has been the same for 5 months now and the last edit was almost a month ago.<br />
May I suggest to either (a) mark the comic as complete and move on or (b) put a different comic in the spotlight and send this one back to the backlog?<br />
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Pro (a): All regular visitors who are willing to edit have probably read the notice, visited the explanation multiple times and simply don't have anything more to add at this point and won't be re-reading everything again.<br />
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Pro (b): If the comic comes into spotlight again at a later date, people are more likely to click on it because it's different from their last visit and they may actually go through with re-reading everything.<br />
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P.S. What's the criteria for completion on a comic like this where you can essentially explore a whole world and write about pretty much anything in it?<br />
--[[User:7he3rain|7he3rain]] ([[User talk:7he3rain|talk]]) 10:50, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I don't want to just mark it as complete when I can't say that it is, I'll just change the comic. This kind of stuff does happen with the larger comics though, the pages get really unwieldy and they're older pages that people aren't necessarily interested in. I think there's a fairly good criteria for completion for 1608, set by the very large table, but it's an awful long way off still. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:46, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Yep mostly my work and I lost interest and time when other big comics came out. I would like to complete it but it is a big task. There are also other reasons given for why it is incomplete. And so it should not be marjed as complete. But yes maybe it should be changed to another comic in the searchlight? Which has already happened. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:16, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Signature concerns ==<br />
I have tried numerous times, and I don't know if it's because I'm an idiot or not, but I cannot find a way to make a signature for my page. I've tried codes and other things in the 'new signature' bar, but all it does is replace 'JayRulesXKCD' with the code I typed before... What am I doing wrong? --[[User:JayRulesXKCD|JayRulesXKCD]] ([[User talk:JayRulesXKCD|talk]]) 17:34, 9 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Signature for your page? You mean a custom signature, right? You want to put <nowiki>{{SUBST:User:JayRulesXKCD/sig}}</nowiki> in the new signature box, then make a page containing the signature. You can view mine for a template. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:11, 9 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Yes. I meant a custom signature. Thank you. --[[User:JayRulesXKCD|JayRulesXKCD]] ([[User talk:JayRulesXKCD|talk]]) 12:10, 10 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Falsehoods ==<br />
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>I'm not willing to keep making points that you'll brush off as false and state your own claims as true<br />
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It is literally the other way round. It is you who declare that 'signing' is good and I whose examples how it isn't you consistently ignore and vocally state that I have failed to provide. In light of this eerie brand of apparent self-victimization of yours, it doesn't seem to make much sense any longer to point out the nonsense of how you claim to have to 'clean mess' while the 'mess' in question is literally just freedom from screen clutter.<br />
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>this talk page is now locked for anonymous users<br />
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In a way befitting of an admin who spoke almost exclusively in falsehoods over this whole 'discussion', this is literally false as well. The page is locked to regular users as well. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip|198.41.243.245}}<br />
:The talk page is locked for user accounts under 10 days old and with less than 10 edits in other places. It's the same protection level used for page creation. I used it on the talk page because in addition to yur willful refusal to recognize or follow site rules, there were multiple other anonymous users who were behaving poorly towards other users, for whom banning was also going to prove ineffective because of shifting IP addresses. I'm not going to waste unpaid volunteer time dealng with people who think they're being clever defying formatting rules on internet forums because they think 20 additional charaters of information is discussion crippling clutter. If you're going to waste my time on my talk page as well, I'm going to raise privilege levels here. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: >yur willful refusal to recognize<br />
:: Not only did I recognize them, I also explained why you made them, why they damage the community, why you're refusing to admit that they damage the community, how you refuse to acknowledge any of the prior, and how you repeatedly vocally deny that I have explained all of the prior (owing to your discussion style, much of it more than once). Also, stellar job using the word 'other' in two so different contexts: first by implying that I am 'behaving poorly', and second, that no one behaved poorly towards me. To anyone who might read this comment, [[ Talk:1756: I'm With Her |search the page for the word 'civility' for the extent to which I abused other users]]. (Also, if you had a modicum of decency, you would have made a template explaining that owing to the page having been locked, any threads left unfinished do not reflect one of the participant deserting them, but just your interruption. But then, we've already established that it's not the site that you're caring about here.) (Oh, and shave your talkpage, it's fucking disgusting.) <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip|198.41.243.238}}<br />
:::Damage is some kind of hyperbole to use to describe a convention so baked into wiki discussion, there's a rendered shortcut for it baked into the software. Also, you're not the only offender on the talk page, the whole page was locked for anonymous users because you, some of the users you were conversing with, and certain other people throwing slurs at randall and admins were on changing IP addresses, making blocks impossible for behavior that would typically justify temporary blocks. This is a problem with IP users in general, and letting anonymous users comment is a motion of trust that the user won't deliberately ignore written rules while swearing at admins through the protection of being impossible to ban. You are not the only reason the page is locked, though the time I wasted on you certainly contributed to the decision. I've issued an ineffective ban on a commenter on the page already, and the discussion is far off topic in multiple branches of your comment trees and aggressive sporadically throughout. The page is locked so that moderation can actually happen, and because anonymous users haven't shown their best side today. Also, your tendency to assert that statements you disagree with are unequivocally false is very irritating. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::Great response Davidy - and very polite compared to what you faced. By the way also interesting to hear what happens behind the curtain for an admin. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:03, 28 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Sad comic trivia ==<br />
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Hi Davidy.<br />
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As you can see I'm back editing. Specifically I have been busy connecting the sad post Trumps election comics and have made the post as a trivia to [[1790: Sad]] - see [[1790#Sad_comics|here]].<br />
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I would like to hear your opinion on the placement. I do not think these comics fit into a category as their relation needs to be seen in a broader light that I have tried to shine here. But maybe a separate page could be created, but I really do not know what to call it. Sad comics in general would also cover lots of other comics especially many of the cancer comics. So Sad Comics alone would not do it. Also Trump should not be part of the name, as Randall has as far as I know never mentioned his name in his comics yet? But to me it is crystal clear that the comic is either a direct reaction to the election or to peoples behavior online (or around Randall). Although I'm quite sure he is sad about the way politic is going especially with his concern for global warming.<br />
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When I first made the trivia someone deleted it entirely, but it was also just a short sum up of those three other comics [[Blame]], [[Negativity]] and [[1779: 2017|2017]]. Now I have also included he [[I'm With Her]] as it seems to have started the series of sad comics. But I think it is important for the understanding of these comics to have them collected somewhere, and if they are sad, then a comic called [[Sad]] seems to be the right place if no single page would do. <br />
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What do you think about this, and about my current trivia on Sad's page?<br />
:--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:57, 28 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Given the absence direct references to Trump in the comic, I would refrain from implicating him until Randall makes it explicitly clear that he's talking about Trump. The portions that talk about other comics' relation to Trump definitely fall outside the scope of the explanation page for 1790 and their removal was probably appropriate. Also, the word sad is a little tenuous of a link to trump and 1761, 1773 and 1779 all seem like similarly loose connections. They all depict feelings that may result from the election, but are not necessarily directly connected or caused by the election and linking them in a category or section for this and not other, older comics showing sadness is going to be difficult to support in the future. Also, constructing links between miscellaneous comics to Trump when none of them directly reference Trump seems like taking a side when we as a wiki should be firmly neutral. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:05, 29 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Hi Davidy. Thanks for the constructive critique. What about the release days in relation the the election, the electoral college vote, new year (of the year he will be president) and finally the first comic after his first real workday. Personally I'm not in any doubt that his sad comics is a result of the election. Maybe they reflect more on other peoples sadness than Randall's own, but with the [[1732]] comic in mind I'm sure he is not only worried about the wall and Muslims banned from the states, but really really worried about the global warming that Trump will help increase. And he has made a direct comic related to his opinion on Trump in I'm With Her. By placing it in a trivia people can also choose not to read it, and I find that the increase in such sad comics is very relevant. I do not remember any real sad comics the year before his election.--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 11:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::PS Just ran through the all comics a year back from I'm with her (or rather Blame) and on from blame. There are four depressing in those last 30 comics Blame included. The only remotely sad or disturbing comic in the 157 a year back from Blame is the global warming comic I just linked above here. And that is not really sad because it is also funny. But the end is scary. Also I checked the 15 pages listed under cancer. I would only say five of those are sad, the other are mainly funny or just something to be thoughtful of. The five sad comics came out over a range of 324 comics [[818]] in November 2010 until [[1141]] November 2012. SO instead of four in just three months it was only five over two years and on a subject he had real cause to be sad, negative or worried about. So I think it is very relevant for explain xkcd to note this increase in sad comics. Of course there could have been other sad comics in between those, but I just don't remember many comics like this. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 11:59, 29 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::The difference between the cancer category and these comics that may or may not have something to do with Trump is that there are explicit references to cancer in the comics in the cancer category. It takes some amount of inference to link those four comics to Trump, and they aren't necessarily linked to the election. They may typify things that Randall noticed after the election, but they can be used in vastly different contexts and the correlation does not necessarily indication causation. The only comic among the five in the trivia section that genuinely merits a sizeable amount of of text on trump is [[1756]], because he's actually directly relevant to the comic. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 20:24, 29 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hmmm. So would you suggest to remove it completely from the trivia. I could put it on my own page as a theory and link people with interest to it from the comics talk pages. Or would it be enough to remove Trump references and then keep the four sad negative comics as a worth of mentioning due to the fact that they do seem to take a negative view of the world which is not usually Randall's style. I'm of course sad... because I put a lot of work into that section. Just like I just did with the so far empty transcript of [[1461:_Payloads]] (not that much though!). See by the way an interesting [[1461:_Payloads#Trivia|trivia]] I found regarding that comic and the transcript on xkcd for said comic. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 01:03, 30 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Personal interpretation of a comic or loose perceived links between comics are what the discussion section is for. If users want to discuss speculative links between comics that aren't necessarily mentioned within the comic itself, they should do it in the discussion page and not the comic explanation. I'm usually actually somewhat against trivia because the kind of content that gets inserted in such a section is usually better suited to the discussion page, but it's sometimes appropriate. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::OK- I have moved it away from Sad which is not about Trump. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:51, 3 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Oversized texting ==<br />
Hi David, I would like to see your opinion on this topic [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Kynde#Transcript_TLDR.3B]. And then I found this (also done by Kynde): [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=xkcd&diff=134457&oldid=109437]. It really needs a major rework. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:37, 17 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'll take a look, swamped right now. Quick skim seems to tell me that kynde is somewhat compromising, though the solution he's chosen seems to be employing slightly needless cruft. I'll comment when I get back to my desk. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:34, 18 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Hi Dgbrt and Davidy22. <br />
::I have tried to change the latest transcripts according to Zetfr's comments. <br />
::And yes I did realize that my changes to the [[xkcd]] page was way too much on that specific page. And that was also why I removed most of the content to other specialized pages (maybe there is still too much in the [[xkcd#History|xkcd history]]?) <br />
::I did this before I saw the comment Dgbrt made about it to me [[User_talk:Dgbrt#xkcd_page_and_more|on his page]]. That was where I had begun a thread [[User_talk:Dgbrt#Transcript_and_other_features|Transcript and other features]] because I was ''really happy how our transcript discussion went in the end''... I guess we were not on the same page there though :/ <br />
::I'm sorry we are taking your precious time with our problems. I just wish to get as much information about correlations between comics etc. on xkcd into this wiki. Maybe it will not always end in the right place?<br />
::For that same reason I did not understand why Dgbrt's new category for comics where Randall has mentioned explain xkcd was not interesting enough (it just needed a better title IMHO), as I also [[User_talk:Dgbrt#Keep_it_compact|just wrote]] to Dgbrt. <br />
::I will not do any further edits regarding the issues mentioned here above though, before hearing from you guys. <br />
::Best regards --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:52, 20 February 20 don't understand a comic17 (UTC)<br />
:::People come here because they don't understand a comic or part of a comic. First up, information that was found in metadata that otherwise has nothing to do with the comic is about as interesting to visitors as the [[773|letter from the president]] on a university website. A similar deal with the transcript, there are details that don't particularly contribute to comprehension of the comic that a blind person probably doesn't need to hear about, although you seem to have resolved your issues there. Explaining concepts used in a comic is useful, though you should try to use the <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> template where possible, as wikipedia is going to just be a better format for learning about something, and they'll remain up to date better than we probably can. It also has the side effect of cutting the length of explanations and leaving the extra reading to people who really want it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I disagree. There are also many people coming here investing many hours to write the big explains. Why just not let them know that Randall recognizes and mention this. The JSON pages a no secret content; but since many people don't know it has to be explained. And, why do not make those editors a little bit proud about their work. I will talk to [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] about a different approach on this issue.<br />
::::Since you have not reacted on all the massive enhancements by Kynde on the [[xkcd]] pages I will also discuss this with himself.<br />
::::I'm hoping you will have a little bit more time in the future on such issue and not just pressing the UNDO button.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::I concur with Dgbrt on the extra details, but maybe less in the main explanation. But trivia or sub pages etc I think it cool for those who use their time on these page. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:22, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== incomplete transcript 933 ==<br />
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Hi, <br />
I saw you worked on 933, reverting and re-reverting. Do you think my way of transcript is ok and I can go on this way? Perhaps you can also give me some feedback or references to my approach for the 657 transcript? Anyway, is there a "how to" for transcripts? Thanks & best regards, LaVe--[[User:LaVe|LaVe]] ([[User talk:LaVe|talk]]) 19:37, 23 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, your work is fine, I just misclicked on the rollback button. Continue as you were. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Sitenotice ==<br />
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Could the [[Mediawiki:Sitenotice|sitenotice]] be updated to randomly pull a comic from the [[:Category:Incomplete explanations|incomplete explanations category]]? There's an example of how to do this on {{w|Template:Random page in category|Wikipedia}}. And perhaps it could be set to update after a fixed interval of time - say, a week? It would be easier than updating it manually, and you could avoid situations where the highlighted "incomplete explanation" is no longer incomplete, but remains in the sitenotice.<br />
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EDIT: Well, it seems that the second part is not really feasible. However, I still think the first part should be implemented. Instead of linking to a specific comic that could easily go stale, the sitenotice could just say "click here to see an incomplete comic" or something like that. The actual link would take you to a random incomplete comic using the aforementioned method. --[[User:Oneforfortytwo|Oneforfortytwo]] ([[User talk:Oneforfortytwo|talk]]) 05:18, 10 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Explain xkcd doesn't have the random in category special page (or dpl which could also be used), the sitenotice does need updating though. [[User:E^ipi|E^ipi]] ([[User talk:E^ipi|talk]]) 10:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I wanted to do a specific comic so that people could focus on the large incomplete comics remaining, though at this stage there's not that many incomplete pages left, perhaps I could make it random. Getting brutalised by finals right now, will just change it for now '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:47, 13 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Ads that interrupt content ==<br />
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In recent months there have been a number of users seeing massive ads right smack in the middle of the articles. These ads are extremely disruptive and are not acceptable by any means.<br />
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The ads have since seemingly disappeared, so we thought an admin might have disabled them, however today I see them again.<br />
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Please take a look: [[Talk:2220: Imagine Going Back in Time/Ads]]<br />
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--[[User:NeatNit|NeatNit]] ([[User talk:NeatNit|talk]]) 23:21, 11 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I actually don't know when the site got moved to google ads, seems like it might be part of the mediawiki suite but I took my long abrupt hiatus somewhere between project wonderful going out of business and whenever the google ad plugin got added, don't even know if the server credentials are the same '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Set up X-Forwarded-For for correct IP address reporting ==<br />
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This should be done server-side, as right now (and for a very long time) it's been reporting load balancer / cache IP addresses for all the users. With recent vandalism, it'd help. [[User:BytEfLUSh|BytEfLUSh]] ([[User talk:BytEfLUSh|talk]]) 22:21, 29 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Oh I remember this being a thing since way back when we went on a CDN. If I can still access the server and I find the time to take a look I could maybe '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Shutting down the crappifier==<br />
Thanks for deleting that common.js page<br />
[[User:Wafflefly21|Wafflefly21]] ([[User talk:Wafflefly21|talk]])<br />
:Heartily seconded. Many thanks David! [[User:Jrfarah|Jrfarah]] ([[User talk:Jrfarah|talk]]) 01:50, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks as well, this is a lot better. [[User:Marethyu|⟨Winter is coming⟩ Marethyu]] ([[User talk:Marethyu|talk]]) 12:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I've been away for a very long time, this looked like it really needed some attention though '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==do you have...==<br />
... any good mass-reversion tools so we can revert the "crap (x 5000)" pages [[User:Stilloes|When even the muppets were on xkcd.com]] ([[User talk:Stilloes|talk]]) 02:11, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I have better rollback options, done. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Are you back Davidy22? After five years. We have been missing admins on this page for years now...--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:10, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh word it's been a while, I remember your name well and you've apparently stuck around far more consistently than I have. I'm an admin, not a beaureaucrat, so I can't actually promote you myself but jeff's twitter is open and I'm sure he's still alive, he maybe remembers you and I can vouch for you too. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:17, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::We might need to assign some new admins (who meet the criteria to be an admin) that actually frequent the wiki. Having only one admin that is active is annoying, since we are limited by their availability. [[User:Marethyu|⟨Winter is coming⟩ Marethyu]] ([[User talk:Marethyu|talk]]) 19:32, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes I hope for some better admins than me, as I'm not very tech minded, and could have done nothing about the current situation. But it would be great if we could find a way to get hold of you in such cases. I'm not particularly interested in being an admin... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:23, 6 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== The vandalizer is back — please re-ban them ==<br />
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Hello — just wanted to let you know that the vandalizer's back under the username "Ex Kay Cee Dee". Can you re-ban them? (Also, how is the vandal not getting CAPTCHA'd, lol?) [[User:PaintspotInfez|PaintspotInfez]] ([[User talk:PaintspotInfez|talk]]) 17:20, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:The user has enough edits that they are auto-captcha'd. Check discussions [[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Admin_requests#Vandalism|here]]. [[User:Marethyu|⟨Winter is coming⟩ Marethyu]] ([[User talk:Marethyu|talk]]) 19:40, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I could crank the autoconfirm minimum to make it a little more onerous to get past captcha permissions, and take away $wgAllowUserJs wiki wide. A little unfortunate for anyone who was using it for their theme/ui but looks like some people would like to make sure we can't have nice things. My server login from five years ago doesn't actually work anymore, which I kind of expected, so I'm going to have to get in contact with jeff again, with a new twitter account too because I deleted the twitter account that I used to message him with. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks for being here, first of all. But mainly you sound like you've got a gameplan, and I don't want to mention my ideas in case the guilty party can organise in advance how to get around them (or rather, chat on whatever darkweb forum they're getting advice from, I expect, because they show signs of being very unoriginal in many ways), so I expect you've got a few more things up your sleeve.<br />
:::I very much expect a repeat of (whatever possible) vandalism from the same moron, as soon as they can be bothered, of course. So I shall continue to do my bit to counter any, from this anonymous sideline, as much as I can. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.145|172.70.90.145]] 03:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Can we please get some more active admins? [[User:Marethyu|⟨Winter is coming⟩ Marethyu]] ([[User talk:Marethyu|talk]]) 12:47, 5 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm an admin, not a bureaucrat, so I can't actually make more admins. Pinged jeff on twitter to recommend kynde already to go with the the request for new server credentials/variable setting. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:44, 5 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah, ok. [[User:Marethyu|⟨Winter is coming⟩ Marethyu]] ([[User talk:Marethyu|talk]]) 15:25, 5 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::What could I have done if I was an admin? I'm not very tech minded and not sure I would be the best choice for admin in such cases like this. We need some of those that actively fought the crapper this time to become admin. Think they proved their worth already... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:27, 6 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::I've been skimming edit logs and history and I've got my eye on the person who made the current comic update bot, theusaf. and the person who did the last revert script, jacky. Looks like they both joined fairly shortly after my unannounced hiatus, which is why I don't recognise them, but they've been around a good solid while it seems. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:37, 6 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== DAVID!! VANDALISM BOTS ARE IMMINENT! ==<br />
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OH CRAP, Ex Kay Cee Dee is spamming everything, similar to last time. idk what else to say other than pls fix<br />
:It's likely the same user with an alt account. [[User:Marethyu|⟨Winter is coming⟩ Marethyu]] ([[User talk:Marethyu|talk]]) 19:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Something for you to check? ==<br />
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I just [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Crap&diff=264798&oldid=264797 reverted something], and I'm on my phone right now so not really in the best position to demunge it, but it looks like an attempt to socially-engineer a 'useful idiot' attack-by-proxy.<br />
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If you know otherwise, then we could trust you (after checking for character-spoofing of your account, obviously), but I don't think it'll be legit at all. Ball's in your court. At least until I get home and dig into it myself at more leisure, but I couldn't use it myself anyway. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 17:19, 5 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Pushed it through a deobfuscator and it's still obtuse, it's not a quick obfuscation pass of jacky's revert script and there's a section of obtuse operations selecting characters out of a string "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789+/=" in a function that infinite loops when I copy paste it into a console and I don't have enough time in a day to walk through this to see what it does so I'm going to not restore it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:05, 6 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I'm the one wrote it. It is based on Jacky's script, but it has a secret algorithm for detecting spam edits that it is very unlikely that the vandal will be able to reverse engineer and bypass. I obfuscated it so the vandal can't see how it works, and unfortunately I'm not willing to publicly give out more information, because much more could allow the vandal to figure it out. Anyway, it's no big deal that it's removed; Jacky's script could probably be adapted to most future bots, and my script is still available in the edit history. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.47|172.70.178.47]] 04:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::As the (double-)reverter, perhaps I need to apologise. You just edit-conflicted my "what I thought about the submission, and why I thought it suspicious" message (which I spent a while snippeling back down mightily, before actually trying to post). At the core though, you should realise (if a legit helper) that the obfussing creates more suspicion than confidence. And 'secret algorithms' with the usage instructions you provided... Sorry, I would not personally risk it. Rang alarm bells.<br />
:::I did get some way into being a 'human interpreter' to your code, but hadn't yet got past enough 'munge' and onto the meat-and-two-veg to confirm either conclusion. So reserving my judgement. With all due respect, if you truly aren't "Ex Kay Cee Dee"/whoever, and I hope you appreciate my reasoning and (for what it's worth, to Davidy22 and the rest) my personal inclinations as to what colour hats are involved here.<br />
:::But I'll shut up, for now. Lest I be thought too self-indulgent. Hmmmm.. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.41|162.158.159.41]] 05:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::It's me, the self-indulgant one, again. Now a quadruple-reverter.<br />
:::My arguments are basically:<br />
:::* We can't trust this code.<br />
:::* We can't trust you (presumably the same submitter, all four times).<br />
:::* We can't trust that, even ''if'' you have honestly written it for honest purposes, it does not contain unintended flaws. (c.f. The (original) Internet Worm, albeit locked into this site... One hopes!)<br />
:::* And we couldn't really fix it if we even knew that it was perfectly good except for some minor implementation error.<br />
:::And I know I'm just as unidentified as you (the other IP party in this little squabble, sorry Davidy22 for using your pages to make this conversation), but I'm not the person trying to get as many users as possible to run something from as many tabs as possible. I respectfully submit my opinion (take it or leave it) that the risks outweigh the claimed usefulness.<br />
:::We've fought the vandalism with manual and non-obfuscated scripts, previously. There's no reason to imagine that your solution is the necessary panacea, without which we are doomed. The opposite, however, is all too distinct a possibility.<br />
:::I'm being civil towards you, IP, because I'm open-minded enough to believe that you still haven't realised how much you are presenting several problematic aspects. I'm sorry if I'm rejecting a truly helpful effort. But consider the various better ways of making use of your benevolent insights, and I'm sure your help would be welcomed if presented in less problematic circumstances.<br />
:::If you're actually the bad-guy, then obviously you already know this, and are just going to be annoyed that you're found out. But then this means you have no valid arguments and my apologies are obviously moot. To ''this'' version of you, I invite you to just go away. Not that I'm under any illusion that this request would work. But I will still try to be polite about it, at least to your face. <br />
:::Ok. That'll do for now. I've made my point, and whoever wants to read it can read it and decide for themselves what sounds more right. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 00:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Just spent some time deobsfuscating the program. It is code for crapping pages. —[[User:Theusaf|theusaf]] ([[User talk:Theusaf|talk]]) 01:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::Alright that saved me the effort that I already wasn't going to put in to walk through that hedge, semiprotected the page since there's probably not much good that's coming out of not doing so. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 02:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== New users deluge ==<br />
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Hi Davidy<br />
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Is the many new users part of the spam and vandalism? <br />
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https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Log/newusers<br />
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Looks crazy... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:08, 11 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I mean, it's been like that forever, hasn't it? It was certainly like that before I left, although I did a bunch of permissions stuff that stopped those accounts from generating actual spam before my long break. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:32, 11 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I'm real at least. I made an account to make it easier to roll back some of the vandalism. You can also find me on a few other wikis like Sarna. That does seem like an unusual amount of new users. I wonder if they are wanting them to age so that they can use them for mass edits later. [[User:Shockeray|Shockeray]] ([[User talk:Shockeray|talk]]) 19:09, 11 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::From my experience (long enough, without a username as I am) the volume and/or frequency is 'normal'.<br />
:::I believe ''mein host'' (upon whose page we are) has said elsewhere that procedures he put in place to prevent auto-spammers spamming are working - insofar as the accounts get created but then never get to do much of the commercial spam-stuff they were being created for.<br />
:::What's unusual, is that on the current view offered by the Log/newusers there are ''four'' (or so I spotted) such users without their Contrib being redlinked (i.e. they ''have'' contributed). I think you're one of them, Shockeray... TBH, I just skimmed to see if it had gone up by an order of magnitude. Which it hasn't.<br />
:::My habitual lurk on this site is via the "Recent pages" link (with 500 'most recent items', usually) to keep me abreast of interesting things and things of interest. And the single-entry representing all of the latest accounts (per calendar-day block) is an old, old friend but one that I don't feel the need to dig into too much.<br />
:::Noting that the latest troublesome account ("pants on fire", via emoji) was created a week or so ago and appeared to be a counter-vandal, IIRC (unless that was a different emoji-named account I'm remembering) and then showed itself to be controlled by the vandal anyway. Those accounts that have never posted are probably of no concern. Unless they start making subtle forays into doing so, maybe. Except for being a background level of resource-use. But I have no idea how much storage a Wiki has to reserve for unused feeler-accounts, etc. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 01:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::If we check the edit log and sort by oldest, that account was made some days before the first automated vandalism wave that brought me back into activity, and their first edits were all vandalism. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Why does the main page say "2616 comics" instead of "2618 comics"==<br />
[[User:Reerolmses|Reerolmses]] ([[User talk:Reerolmses|talk]]) 01:30, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:One of those (that doesn't exist) ''may'' be 404. But (whether or not), there are occasional glitches in the totalling system. Check which number(s) will not apparently count towards the total? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.109|162.158.159.109]] 01:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::One is 404, which is permanently invalid, and the other one is fixed now. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::I think that is wrong. [[404]] is listed here: [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:All_comics&pagefrom=0401%0A401%3A+Large+Hadron+Collider#mw-pages List of comics]. And that list counts all comics, but the total on the front page is one lower... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:43, 14 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Front page has a line to subtract to account for 404. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:42, 15 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== New admins ==<br />
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Hi Davidy. Seems you need to push Jeff if he should add us other two up for [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Coordination#New_admins being approved as Admin]? It is four days ago I accepted and same with Jacky720 --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:46, 14 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:He sometimes takes a little while to respond, pinged again. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 01:42, 15 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. I'm not on twitter. But I could create an account, if that would enable us to write directly. And would make it possible for me as admin to get in contact with you or Jeff, in case there are some issues with this site, and in case you again take a longer break from looking here ;-) We have had some serious troubles with long down time in between, with no one of the users here, knowing if the page would get back up again, and having no one to ask, and no one that made any comment on why and how it got up again. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::I now have a twitter account. I found only one person by searching on Davidy22. But That was a new account. How do we connect... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 10:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::davidy22 was taken, I made davidy2222, it's brand new, I don't really use twitter for anything but pinging jeff and but you can dm me if you need me. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 04:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm new to twitter... Found you there. Cannot write to you... Do not know what "dm" means? Get this message "David @davidy2222 can’t be messaged" Still waiting for Jeff to make the other two of your suggestions into admins. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:34, 18 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::Davidy did you see this message? I can see you are active still... Hope you stay here. But really would like to be able to contact you off site also. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Didn't get anything via twitter. I see a person named kynde followed me, so I know you've found the right account. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 19:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandalbots ==<br />
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Thank you for stopping the vandal! If that happens again, would you please not delete the JS files? The vandal probably saves them anyway, and leaving them up would make development of counter-bots simpler. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.65|172.70.126.65]] 23:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If you really want to see them, they're always available in the deletion log. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Only admins can see deleted pages; others can only see short excerpts in log entries. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.65|172.70.126.65]] 23:37, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not comfortable with archiving the vandalcode, personally. There's little benefit to knowing ''exactly'' what common.js caused something (with such obvious footprints of what it has done, with nary a sign of finesse or adaptive intelligence imbued within) and all too much opportunity for a completely unrelated potential copycat to opportunistically copypasta a script that they don't even understand.<br />
:It's not like we're up against a [[810: Constructive|sophisticated]] vandalism, after all.<br />
:(The chances are that it's the same idiot each time, what with other little clues they seem not to help leaving around, but the bar is ''really'' low for someone else to become the next incarnation.)<br />
:More than that, it seems a bit 'meta', even for us. Document the ins and outs of the changing appearance of the comic frontpage (hello Kynde, et al!) is a decent sideline for this wiki, beyond merely ''explain''ing the ''xkcd'' jokes, but once you start canonising (to coin a phrase) the various things that happened to this very wiki (<nowiki>http://explainexplainxkcd.com/wiki</nowiki>, anyone?), then it's a level or two beyond merely the self-authored User:page potted biogs, etc, that we might expect and embrace. IMO. YMMV. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 00:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:(PS: Oh, come on... Only two of the CAPTCHA squares had bicycles in them. I looked carefully, and I'm sure. But you insist there's more. Rather than click on the motorbikes' square (probably where it is itself mistaken!) I'm going to add to my edit and wait for the challenge to expire... as it now has... and see what fresh hell it'll ask me to identify the next time round.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 00:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC) (PPS. Buses. 6 of them. Typing this quickly to not lose that verification...)<br />
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== Blocked IP ==<br />
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You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:<br />
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Your IP address has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Davidy22. The reason given is:<br />
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Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "MeaganGilson8".<br />
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The reason given for MeaganGilson8's block is ""<br />
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Start of block: 08:57, 19 May 2022<br />
Expiration of block: 08:57, 20 May 2022<br />
Intended blockee: 172.70.126.215<br />
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You may contact Davidy22 or one of the other administrators to discuss the block.<br />
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Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you have a valid email address registered in your user preferences and you have not been blocked from using it.<br />
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Your current IP address is 172.70.126.215, and the block ID is #10010. Please include all above details in any queries you make.<br />
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[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.119|108.162.216.119]] 21:45, 19 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Spam Bot ==<br />
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This user,<br />
[[Special:Contributions/Explain xkcd server admin]], is replacing entire pages contents with the word "crap." Been trying to revert their changes, but seems to be a bot. They've changed thousands of pages. <br />
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[[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.124|172.70.131.124]] 00:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Technical]] ==<br />
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This noticeboard seems unattended for years and there are serious technical issues that should be brought up.. I know you have contact with Jeff, who I imagine is the sysadmin, so if possible please relay my message at [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Technical#Please update MediaWiki + AbuseFilter]]. [[User:CRLF|CRLF]] ([[User talk:CRLF|talk]]) 00:49, 21 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I've already requested revocation of $wgallowuserjs for regular users, but jeff hasn't checked his twitter in a while. Gonna try email in a bit. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Problems again with vandals ==<br />
Hi Davidy. Hope you sees this. There is some big issues on the [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/explain_xkcd:Community_portal community portal] and also other pages, so a large image of an old comic blocks everything from being seen. Even your talk page. A Donald Trump account, that I have now blocked was crapping 1000 of pages also. Do not know if he has something to do with this other part as well, but it makes it hard to discuss it as we cannot see the community pages or your talk page... We still need a way for me to get into contact with you, in case you fail to spot these post on your page here... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:49, 26 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Well the image thing seems to have been fixed, it was probably some cage issue. But there is still tons of pages crapped, but seems like other users have reverted all of them already. Great... I was alerted here about [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Kynde#Block_User:Donald_Trump Trump user]. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:57, 26 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Been in the back helping jeff get server side things sorted, you should be able to fix anything from the recent changes page via rollback without having to see the vandalised page. The twitter account you followed was the right one, I don't actually check it but I get email pings when jeff DMs me there so your DMs should also email ping me. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Lost Account? ==<br />
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I do have access to most of my old email addresses from 2013 as I can see that's the last time my account was accessed but for the life of me I can't remember which one I was using at the time, especially under the username of PheagleAdler which I am still using across the internet today. And naturally I also forgot the password. (hey cut me some slack it's been 9 years lol)<br />
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I was wondering if maybe you could look into this for me, I could send all my known email addresses to you privately if possible and you could match it to the account. I'm actually surprised it's not the one I tried when I clicked Forgot Password but who the hell knows what I was thinking in 2013.<br />
:Huh, I think I actually remember your name, been a hefty while. Looking at registered emails isn't among the powers that an admin has and I also lost access to the server after a long long bout of inactivity, currently only jeff can look around the guts, you can ping him see if he can help you. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 18:35, 27 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::I'll try contacting Jeff then, thank you.<br />
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== Mierda ==<br />
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Why did you block Mierda? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.105|172.70.130.105]] 03:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Obvious alt '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:59, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::How could you tell that? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.195|172.70.130.195]] 13:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::"Mierda" means "crap" or "shit" in Spanish. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 14:16, 29 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Sockpuppet ==<br />
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[[User:Κραππερ]] edited the Admin Request board in a manner consistent with [[User:Anticrap]], asking how to fight vandalism. Also note that their username is Greek and transliterates to "crapper". As such, I think it is very likely that this is a sockpuppet. Thank you for your time.<br />
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Edit: Also likely sockpuppets: [[User:Εχπλαιν ξκκδ]] (Explain XKCD), [[User:Vανδαλβανε]] (Vandalbane), [[User:Dookie]], and [[User:CrapZap]].<br />
:Yeah done '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 07:08, 30 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Another one ==<br />
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[[User:Vаndalbane]] with a cyrillic "а" instead of latin.<br />
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== Deleting from my talk page...? ==<br />
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Hi Davidy. [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Kynde&action=history What's up with this]? Seems like the guy really tries to write something. What has his user name (user names like his) done to deserve it? I get a message every time you two roll back each others edits...--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 10:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:See account creation log for May 25, 2022 in relation to the Maria D. Armstrong account used for the latest bot spam attempt, four accounts created in the same username pattern within 2 minutes. Vandal doesn't get an audience. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 10:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hmmm checked, and there are only that one Danny and that one Chorda and no other names near that time that reminds me of those name. He managed to do some edits before you blocked him, that looked harmless, but of course that could be to overcome CAPTCHA? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 11:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::And also... If he was a Vandal, why then continue writing about Chorda, instead of just creating a new account that you would not seem suspicious to you? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 11:36, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Go by timestamp, not text search. You can find the four account names that had been created within a 2 minute span in the block log, and you can view the contribution log of the latest spam attempt that was deterred by new policy, which now has the vandal falling back to persistent lying. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 11:43, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::I just edited a brief (but less brief than yours, David) pointer to the info, then rumbled on a bit about other things. Edit-conflicted with last two edits, and perhaps for the best, I kept the clues down to a minimum as to how even I (not even an account user, let alone Admin) saw the connections, but no point saying too much and the above is more than enough to find what I think we all have been able to see.<br />
:::::Blatant and obvious, really. Then complaints from the 'cleanskin' identity, then an overly obsessive IP that protesteth far too much, methinks. (A normal person would surely have just gone on to another account much sooner.)<br />
:::::Noting that a more recent account has been created that has [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/DCorchado so far] only been used to ''sensibly'' edit a single thing (like a normal editor) the last I noted. If this account only ever does such things then I'd personally leave it, as a [[810: Constructive]] editor, but if it's the same source as suspected then it ought to know by now that we don't tolerate a deliberate mess being left, whether from an obvious sock-puppet or any old contributor who tries to slip in under the radar by just not initially being so insultingly obvious.<br />
:::::I've mentioned before ("hate the sin, love the sinner") I believe in redemption, but there is always the risk of recidivism as well. Which I trust both of you (and the others currently enrolled) to handle as fairly as you can.<br />
:::::But I would encourage use of off-site channels (or possibly pages viewable to admins only? ...do Wikis even have such things?) to go into the sensitive details and keep abreast of all the more subtle information that you might need to be communally aware of. No need to give out ideas of what abusive strategies are blown and which aren't yet even suspected, if not in this case, if there's no further threat, then in hypothetical future ones.<br />
:::::I also don't think I'm capable of doing your jobs for you, so apologies for jumping in with my armchair-opinions... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.82|172.70.91.82]] 12:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::Mediawiki by design doesn't really do private backrooms. Vandal tends to figure out what doesn't work on their own when it stops working. Missed the new obvious alt, if you take a look at the rest of my talk page you may guess that I have a much less lenient history for spam and vandals, they won't keep an account for as long as they make it identifiable that it's them. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 12:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Is there any chance we could set up a block appeals process like Wikipedia has? This was probably a vandal, but a similar response to a legitimate user who was accidentally blocked would definitely discourage contributions. Basically it would just be the user posting an appeal somewhere, and another admin decides whether or not to unblock. The blocking admin would be allowed to give information why they blocked the user, but would not be allowed to interfere in the process for any reason. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.62|108.162.246.62]] 14:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I have actually been trying to get a way of communicating with Davidy off site, but it has failed so far. We cannot write any direct contact details here, if we wish to stay anonymous. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:35, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Blocks for anything but spam follow a gradient of warning suspensions. Vandalism blocks are indefinite and not up for negotiation. Kynde, you've already found the new account that I'm using to contact jeff, just send a dm. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 15:03, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Yes I would have but it says your account can't be messaged, guess you have turned that off (or not on?). I'm following you, maybe you can find my account that way and send me a message, then maybe I can reply? Managed to get hold of Jeff that way. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:44, 10 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Oh, didn't notice, opened it up. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:52, 10 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Cool. Wrote to you now. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:26, 11 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::Thanks Davidy. I misunderstood the meaning. But is there not a constant flow of new accounts created? I mean it would be difficult to crate one without there being four other created close to it... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:35, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::Compare timing and patterns to the entire rest of the adjacent block log '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 15:03, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
If a former vandal decides to stop spamming and start contributing helpfully, do you think they should be allowed to? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.198|162.158.107.198]] 16:26, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If they want to they'll have to do it from a fresh start '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 17:51, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::But that account ''was'' a fresh start. None of the Corchado accounts have been used for vandalism. (This is assuming these accounts were even created by the vandal; it's very likely but not definitively proven.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.130.105|172.70.130.105]] 21:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Being a preparatory vandal alt to beat the autoconfirm time limit in the same manner as previously done several times is not a fresh start, and if this is the vandal you're not getting those accounts back. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 23:47, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== New vandal out again ==<br />
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Hi Davidy. Are you online here at the moment? Have you seen this: [[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Admin_requests#More_reports|More reports]] --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:03, 21 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah saw it, my own personal email chain with jeff asking him to install the spam extension has gotten long and one-sided '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:25, 21 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Good to know you are still active. Too bad you cannot get hold of Jeff. He did actually reply to me to make me admin...--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Check the user creation history, we just had several 'users' created. I bet some of them are intended for spam purposes. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.164|172.70.131.164]] 08:34, 21 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hundreds of users are created every day. But they have to make several edits with CAPTCHA before they can be used to spam. There seems to be nothing we can do about this creation of users.--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== 2652 ==<br />
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Please restore the revised version on its talk page. Thanks also for your help with protection. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.123|172.69.33.123]] 20:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello hello, media request! ==<br />
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Hi Davidy22, thanks for all your contributions here. I'm a wiki enthusiast and I'm writing about the Explain xkcd wiki. I'd love to hear how you got started on the site. Let me know if you'd be willing to chat! I'm Annie and you can email me at annierau at umich dot edu. Thank you very much for building something so wonderful! [[User:Postgradpredeath|Postgradpredeath]] ([[User talk:Postgradpredeath|talk]]) 03:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah sure, I replied to the email. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 14:48, 25 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== New type of vandalism ==<br />
Hello, just wanted to say there's been some vandals changing the image files on some comics to random images, nothing explicit as far as I've seen but some can be rather triggering or upsetting. I've seen this on Journal, Methodology Trial, and Radians are Cursed so far. [[User:Char Latte49|Char Latte]] ([[User talk:Char Latte49|talk]]) 03:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Changing capitalization of page names? ==<br />
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Hi Davidy22<br><br />
Are you online?<br><br />
Got a question regarding capitalization of a link. Agree on the problem, but it is not easy to solve. Do you have more power than me on that subject. See the question on [[User_talk:Kynde#Changing_category_name.2C_and_the_creation_of_Category:Comics_with_red_corrections|My talk page]] Regards --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Confirmation email not arriving ==<br />
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Hey,<br />
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First, I saw your message on Kynde's talk page. After all the efforts to transfer every comic and update every link, I think I'll leave the category where it is, but thanks for the help. <br />
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Second, I've not been able to get my email verified on this site for months since I joined. Whenever I click the button to send an email [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Special:ConfirmEmail on this page], nothing happens. I can't get email notifications without verifying, do you know if this is fixable? Thanks, --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:41, 24 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
:Hum, been a long while, I'll look around '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 14:18, 31 May 2023 (UTC)<br />
::Did you find anything after looking around? It still doesn't work :( [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 20:38, 23 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::This issue might me connected with this other section on this talk page: [[#Incoming confirmation email: Domain of sender address expla0@vps.explainxkcd.com does not exist]]. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 21:30, 23 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Contacting Jeff offline ==<br />
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Hi. I understand that you may be able to contact the Wiki owner [[User:Jeff|Jeff]] offline. If so, would you mind pointing him to my comments in his talk page, i.e.: https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Jeff#Staying_an_admin ? (I'm just hoping for one or two more bureaucrats; there are no active ones these days.)<br />
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Thanks. -- [[User:Dtgriscom|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom|talk]]) 02:09, 30 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Inappropriate content ==<br />
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Hi I saw inappropriate content being added by the ip address 172.69.195.23 at 17:29 15 February 2023 (UTC) (an image of porn). Could you please ban that person? --[[User:1234231587678|1234231587678]] ([[User talk:1234231587678|talk]]) 18:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Unfortunately, there are currently no active admins, so there's nobody that could ban users like that. -- [[User:Dtgriscom|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom|talk]]) 18:20, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: It's not so much that, but 'that person' being an IP (much as I am, though I'm not them) adds other complications. While actual admins don't tend to ban IP(-ranges), that's mostly because a combination of the current main monitoring 'Bot and the rest of the community quickly handle these sort of issues. As in this case... the 'bot restored from one or two attempts, named users did a subsequent restore before/instead of the 'bot seeing the next attempt, and I also helped out when I noticed something overlooked by the prior username who helped out.<br />
:: This is not the first time such things have been done (that image has been used before, and clearly the instigator has picked up tips and tricks to refine their vandalism, as we've picked up on how to counter it). Totally locking out vandals from this sort of thing is never going to be as easy as simply banning a user (or IP), although such suggestions then also cue up the obvious discussion of "update the wiki, then add this/that/the other mediaWiki extension" (with various pros and cons).<br />
:: Personally, I like the current setup, where we don't need a group of active moderators to whitelist everything, because we have a good community of users who can rectify (most) issues as they happen. Even restricting to registered users only wouldn't help much (we've seen enough usernames spam-or-vandalise the site, and yet there's also already good reason to praise the background systems that intercept almost all the spam-accounts).<br />
:: I think the current balance works well. Yes, it'd be nice to have a bit more active moderation. That some of the few registered accounts that go onto spam haven't been banned indefinitely is hard to accept, but the fact that these ones (that got through the main anti-spam protection but then got sorted out by the community/'bots reverting again) have seemingly not even ''tried'' anything else (either not been as lucky to get further attempts to work or the script behind them had 'moved on' to its next fake-username) seems to suggest that this balance is working well enough.<br />
:: Preferably, none of the idiots who do this sort of thing would do it at all. But we have seen that we can get past these occasional issues. You (@1234...) are fairly new here, but take it from me, with quite a few years lurking (and posting) here. It's a different contribution scenario to the xkcd fora (where I was originally far more active, until they finally fell over for unrelated technical reasons that yet shows how full-username interaction has its ''own'' potential issues), but all the problems here over the last decade-or-so have generally been dealt with promptly. With top-level moderators intervening when ''really'' necessary.<br />
:: Still, horses for courses. This is my assessment of both the recent incident and all the rest I've been around to help deal with, but YMMV. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.165|172.70.86.165]] 20:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Confirmation Emails ==<br />
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Hi Davidy22. I’ve seen your message on the Technical Page of the Community portal in regards to confirmation emails (hopefully you still remember 10 years later). I have a reason for you to add confirmation emails. I use my email a lot, and I would like to be able to see when the pages on my watchlist (talk page, community portal, etc.) are edited. Kynde had recommended me to you, as you’re on of the more technical admins. Could you please kindly advise? Thanks. [[User:42.book.addict|42.book.addict]] ([[User talk:42.book.addict|talk]]) 16:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== too much downtime ==<br />
there have been too many 503's, search google errors, and loss of session errors when i try to edit. also, load times are noticeably longer. can you check on the servers? [[user talk:lettherebedarklight|youtu.be/miLcaqq2Zpk]] 02:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Admin ==<br />
How do you know if you're an admin? Is it just if you have the ability to create pages? And what do admins do? --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 09:06, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2862&diff=37302128622025-04-15T08:57:39Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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<b>23,15,18,4 ... 2, 50,"8, 12, 50,,,15"</b><br />
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This text is part of an elaborate treasure hunt I'm doing for some people, please leave it alone if you are here and have found this, I will delete it once this is done. Thank you. Please don't hurt me.</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=373019User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T08:33:36Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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<div>So originally, this had just been flooded with me trying to tell people wrong information, and then telling them stuff that they already knew. So I've decided to just start over again. If your comment(s) were deleted, I don't mean any offense, I just wanted to start over again.<br />
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So, with that over, welcome to my talk page! You can ask me any questions or whatever, just use it as a normal discussion page. --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=373018User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T08:33:25Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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So originally, this had just been flooded with me trying to tell people wrong information, and then telling them stuff that they already knew. So I've decided to just start over again. If your comment(s) were deleted, I don't mean any offense, I just wanted to start over again.<br />
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So, with that over, welcome to my talk page! You can ask me any questions or whatever, just use it as a normal discussion page. --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Ninojin3DD&diff=373017User talk:Ninojin3DD2025-04-15T08:29:34Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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<div>Hey, I noticed you didn't have a talk page yet, so I thought you might want one! Here you go! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 08:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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{{Welcome}}</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd_talk:Editor_FAQ&diff=373016explain xkcd talk:Editor FAQ2025-04-15T08:27:15Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* How do I..? */</p>
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<div>Feel free to enter any question about editing this Wiki and don't forget to sign you comment. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Formatting of explanations ==<br />
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Many pages contain tables where a definition list would be 1) easier to read 2) mobile friendly, for example: [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1957:_2018_CVE_List&oldid=160469 1957]. <br />
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I was also involved in rewriting the transcript for [[1963]], where the discussion came up about how those should be styled. ("as if you were reading the comic to someone")<br />
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I think we should have a small style guide to encourage sane formatting. What else should such guidelines contain? <br />
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Edit: One more thing I'd love to see: semantic headlines (i.e. < h3> headlines for explanation subchapters instead of < h2> which is the same level as the explanation itself)<br />
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<small>(Sidenote: I've been active on explainxkcd for quite some time, but only now got around making an account.)</small> [[User:Gir|//gir.st/]] ([[User talk:Gir|talk]]) 15:01, 19 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your remarks. First: There is no need to start every new sentence at a new line. Tables are meant for small content in all other cases it's bad layout. I recently changed this [[2034: Equations]] to a proper floating text. At the transcript tables should never be used, even when there is a table in the comic image it should be described by text. The guide here was mainly written by me because there was nothing like this here before. Some people already helped and I'm happy for any further remarks to enhance it. And this table issue is definitely one; I just not wanted to be the only (arrogant) layout master. Your help is welcome to write something, otherwise I will do so soon.<br />
:For headlines we don't use HTML-code but WIKI-code. The main headlines are written like this: <nowiki>==Explanation==</nowiki>, <nowiki>==Transcript==</nowiki>, and (optional) <nowiki>==Trivia==</nowiki>. Headlines inside that chapters should be done in this way: <nowiki>;Subtitle</nowiki>. The preceding semicolon causes the entire line to be rendered in bold. Only when the explanation really needs sub-chapters it can be done by this: <nowiki>===Sub header===</nowiki> (three equal signs before and after the text). I will put this also into the FAQ.<br />
:Welcome and thanks for helping. PROTIP: Always use the preview button to check the layout before saving. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::hi, I'm aware about the headlines and stuff, it was just shorter to write it this way in the comment. I see you started a bit with a styleguide already; I hope I can contribute to it next week, when things cool down at work a bit. //gir.st/, who is to lazy to log in [[Special:Contributions/172.68.51.190|172.68.51.190]] 06:51, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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So, one more thing, regarding 'What is the proper layout for headers?'. I think we should better use small <code><nowiki>====headings====</nowiki></code> instead of just description titles (<code><nowiki>;bold text</nowiki></code>), since it makes the intent clearer. what is your reasoning behind suggesting it the other way round? greetings, [[User:Gir|//gir.st/]] ([[User talk:Gir|talk]]) 14:49, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for your input and of course Wiki markup headers should be valid. I just believe that the simplest way should also be valid for less experienced writers. When a new explanation starts it's often awful and chaotic; giving a simple but effective structure at the beginning helps against this chaos. So, I'm thinking about dividing the section "What is the proper layout for headers?" (it's a question because it's a FAQ) into two subsections:<br />
:*easy: a semicolon, the colon at the following paragraph may be mentioned - but I'm not sure about the colon because it should be ''easy''<br />
:*advanced: <code><nowiki>===headings===</nowiki></code> if the comic really can be divided into chapters; <code><nowiki>====headings====</nowiki></code> as a replacement for the semicolon; and <code><nowiki>==headings==</nowiki></code> is forbidden because it belongs to expl, trnsc, trivia. The semicolon, colon issue should be mentioned here.<br />
:Please consider that there was many chaos in the past and many writers will do their edits without reading this FAQ. So keeping this simple as possible seems to me to be inevitable. And dividing sections by using the semicolon for a header is still much better than many of those tables. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 17:41, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Based on this discussion I edited the current comic here: [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2037%3A_Supreme_Court_Bracket&type=revision&diff=161880&oldid=161841] and compare it to this former version [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2037:_Supreme_Court_Bracket&diff=prev&oldid=161841]. Do not focus on the edits, just scroll down to the resulting page.<br />
::This brought me to another important issue: NO links in a header. At Wikipedia this is also not welcome. This site isn't Wikipedia but in this case I feel this is a good rule. But the TOC (Table of content) is shown in the preview while it's not at the resulting page. The result is preferred but the TOC in the preview may confuse editors here.<br />
::So, I'm still looking for simple instructions, layouts which advanced people always can enhance.<br />
::And consider that some editors are probably younger than xkcd is. Not sure about this but there are definitely young people here and I welcome them all. And I'm NOT getting old like Randall sometimes feel, I like to support every editor despite any other background. And this has to be simple on the first place. STOP(I could talk much more) --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:49, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry, I missed this. I'd personally go with the "advanced" option, but mentioning both is fine too. Nice work on 2037! Really enjoying our conversations about this, I hope i'm not a bother ;-) [[User:Gir|//gir.st/]] ([[User talk:Gir|talk]]) 11:20, 28 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
OK, after a few days and some more edits (for example see here: [[2035: Dark Matter Candidates]]) I believe this would be the best guide:<br />
*<code><nowiki>====headings====</nowiki></code> should be preferred because the advantage is that each header has it's own edit button. One other advantage is that the header text will be shown at the summary in the history.<br />
*The semicolon may be used as a preliminary layout for new comics until it's clear of what content the explanation is composed of.<br />
*On more rare circumstances the <code><nowiki>===headings===</nowiki></code> may divide the explanation into different larger chapters.<br />
*<code><nowiki>==headings==</nowiki></code> is reserved to the general layout and has not to be used.<br />
And I still oppose to the colon at the beginning of any paragraph at all. Any thoughts? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:17, 29 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry if it's any bother, or if it's rude to ask (I'm not really very sure about the wiki's etiquette system beyond editing), but could someone create my user page? Thanks, [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 14:22, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Done! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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== Please '''''do not''''' use semicolon-lines as "headings" ==<br />
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Hi, sorry to butt in, but I was going to mention this here anyway after I saw it in the FAQ. Please ''don't'' continue to give this advice to editors:<br />
<blockquote>For headlines you have to use Wiki-style code. The simplest way is a preceding semicolon at the beginning of the line which causes the entire line to be rendered in bold.<ref>§ [[explain xkcd:Editor FAQ#What_is_the_proper_layout_for_headers.3F|What is the proper layout for headers?]] of the [[explain xkcd:Editor FAQ|Editor FAQ]]</ref><br />
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The [[explain xkcd:Editor FAQ#In_which_case_tables_are_meaningful_and_when_not.3F|previous Editor FAQ section]] has it right: in wikicode, the semicolon opens a ''description list'', and will be translated into equivalent HTML. In other words, the wikicode is processed as follows:<br />
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: a popular webcomic</pre><br />
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&lt;dt&gt;xkcd&lt;/dt&gt;<br />
&lt;dd&gt;a popular webcomic&lt;/dd&gt;<br />
&lt;/dl&gt;</pre><br />
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One or more lines started with a semicolon ''must'' be followed by at least one line that starts with a colon, to provide the <code>&lt;dd&gt;...&lt;/dd&gt;</code> part of the description list block.<br />
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It is a {{w|Help:List#Common_mistakes|common mistake}} to use semicolon-lines as "headings". Unfortunately the result is '''invalid HTML''', since the HTML spec requires that a <code>&lt;dl&gt;</code> block contain:<br />
<blockquote>Zero or more groups each consisting of one or more dt elements followed by one or more dd elements</blockquote><br />
It's fine to have multiple semicolon-lines in a row (as the HTML standard allows for groups of several <code>&lt;dt&gt;...&lt;/dt&gt;</code> blocks in sequence), but they must '''always''' be followed by at least one <code>&lt;dd&gt;...&lt;/dd&gt;</code> block, created in wikicode by following a line started with a semicolon with another line that starts with a colon. <br />
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Just like lines started with <code>*</code> or <code>#</code>, a line started with a <code>;</code> creates a list element, and has syntactic requirements that must be followed. Abusing the description-term wikicode for purposes other than description-list creation not only breaks the HTML on the resulting page, but it makes the content much harder for screen readers and other assistive technologies to parse and accurately reproduce. <br />
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(And, yes, technically Mediawiki's use of <code>:</code>-lines for indenting, as on talk pages, is also invalid since it creates a <code>&lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;...&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt;</code> block with no <code>&lt;dt&gt;</code> element. So it's bad enough on talk pages, it's 100x worse to encourage doing it on '''article''' pages.) Please consider removing this bad advice from the Editor FAQ. Thanks. -- [[User:FeRDNYC|FeRDNYC]] ([[User talk:FeRDNYC|talk]]) 05:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your remarks, that's why I started this FAQ and the discussion about it. Especially the header section is still preliminary, just check the section above here at the talk page.<br />
:My first purpose is to keep it as simple as possible for writers having not much or no knowledge about wiki code or HTML. After that an advanced section should follow and define the rules for a complete article.<br />
:Please check my summary from 29 August 2018 just above here. You're right the semicolon isn't a header, that's why I'm saying it should be used only temporary. And after reading your remarks here I would propose a single line with bold text and a following empty line instead of that semicolon thing.<br />
:Keep it simple for people who just want to write something here; advanced users will change it to an appropriate layout later. Consider: When a new comic is out the explanation often starts in chaos. And for now I'm really happy that the overwhelming usage of tables is stopped.<br />
:Let me know what you do think about the bold text line (not by semicolon) and the more sophisticated header guidance for the final layout as I've mentioned on 29 August 2018. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 12:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::And of course the usage of a semicolon should also be mentioned together with the colon because it's a list. An entire paragraph "How do I format lists?" has still to be written yet. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 12:51, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::One more: I've checked the definition for <code>dd/dt/dl</code> and it's clear the <code>dd</code> tag must be followed by at least one (either <code>dt</code> or <code>dl</code>) child. This tells me that the indent done by a colon is proper HTML. This is very important because every transcript since the first comic uses this indentation. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:20, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::On one hand, yes, the HTML is technically invalid, but on the other hand, every browser gets the intended layout correct, in no small part because these sorts of errors have been parts of industry-wide regression test suites since the mid-1990s. Asking users to try to achieve completely unnecessary perfection is a waste of time. Even screenreaders are completely unfazed by this nominal flaw. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.36|172.70.211.36]] 01:29, 11 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Incomplete tags==<br />
The FAQ says to use <code><nowiki>{{incomplete transcript|YOUR REASON}}</nowiki></code> but instead of rendering like this (like with the incomplete template):<br />
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{{notice|'''This transcript is incomplete:''' ''YOUR REASON'' <br/>If you can address this issue, please '''[{{fullurl:{{{target|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}|action=edit}} edit the page]!''' Thanks.}}<br />
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It renders like this:<br />
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{{notice|'''This transcript is incomplete.''' Please help [{{fullurl:{{{target|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}|action=edit}} editing] it! Thanks.}}<br />
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Can someone please change this? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.133.180|172.68.133.180]] 02:55, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The FAQ also says: "The reason at the transcript is not shown to the viewer." You can see it when you edit the transcript. And because the reason for the comic is also often not given this should be enough for the transcript. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:49, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== math markup ==<br />
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Just to note - I was curious about the "math markup" message at the top of each page, and duly followed the link to the Editor FAQ as instructed, but ther--e is no mention of why it shouldn't be used... (no account yet, as I've not made any edits - yet! and i use google data saver, so this is not my ip -->) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.22|162.158.34.22]] 23:49, 11 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:damn, I'm tired - just re-read the section titles, and there it is. It's late, so sorry! --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.22|162.158.34.22]] 23:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I think the reason given is incomplete, but wanted to check here before I amended it. Transcripts are for the benefit of visually-challenged visitors, so using math markup, and thus rendering the text as images, is counterproductive. Right? -- [[User:Dtgriscom|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom|talk]]) 15:06, 20 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:::The explanation is (in my opinion) somewhat silly, as the image generated by MathML has an alt tag for text browsers/accessible use. Further, if this wiki's settings were chosen correctly, the image would be output with MathML alongside, which is the ''actual'' (non-plaintext) accessible solution for displaying mathematical formulas on the web. See also: https://accessibility.princeton.edu/about/blog/mathml-accessible-math-markup [[User:DimeCadmium|DimeCadmium]] ([[User talk:DimeCadmium|talk]]) 02:20, 12 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Create page for new comic ==<br />
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Should there be a paragraph about this?<br />
Since the bot is not working anymore, people need to do this. I know I have seen isntructions somewhere on this wiki, but cannot find them... [btw: there is a new comic up, right now, as I post this line, which is not yet in the wiki. SO if you know how to do it, do it before explaining it on the FAQ :)] --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:27, 3 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Page targeted by Spam ==<br />
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The page is currently targeted heavily by Spambots. I am not sure why they target this specific page. It might be, because it is linked in the header? Since Admins (who could protect the FAQ) seem to be currently absent from the page, anyone got any ideas what to do about it? leave it to spam and create a seperate FAQ with the same content? --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 10:08, 26 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Spaces ==<br />
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Seriously, why oh why is [[1285:_Third_Way|1285]] not linked into the statement about the one space / two space [[1285:_Third_Way | controversy]]? This feels like an inexplicable gap. Is there a policy insisting the FAQ remain fastidiously humorless in all ways? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.231|162.158.107.231]] 02:10, 29 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Duplicating the hover text/title in the transcript section? ==<br />
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Is there a reason not to duplicate the title/hovertext in the transcript section, so a screenreader user can be sent there and not have to page back up for that bit (besides "one or more editors would need to check all entries and edit it in where missing")? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.68.43|141.101.68.43]] 00:11, 28 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
:For my two (or three) cents:<br />
:1) You'd be duplicating it, so you ought to lose the sub-image record if you do that or you could get silly with all kinds of repeating of everything..<br />
:2) It's a Transcript to try to record/present the text (and imagery) you cannot already screen-read.<br />
:3) It doesn't need manual editing (and manual editing is more likely to have mistakes, anyway).<br />
:...Perhaps some Template(-pair?) could be developed to sit post-template to "display:screenreader-only" (or whatever the markup format would be) the upper-templated titletext field? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.12|172.70.86.12]] 04:00, 28 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== it's/its typo ==<br />
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At §[[explain_xkcd:Editor_FAQ#How_do_I_enter_mathematical_or_chemical_formulas.3F| How_do_I_enter_mathematical_or_chemical_formulas?]] please change “it's Wikipedia help page” to “'''its''' Wikipedia help page” (for the same reason that "our" and "their" don't have apostrophes).<br />
[[User:Kurahaupo|Kurahaupo]] ([[User talk:Kurahaupo|talk]]) 23:44, 29 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
: Came here to say this, but I see I'm two months too late. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.64|172.70.86.64]] 12:32, 9 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Punctuation inside quotes and parentheses ==<br />
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Can we add a section saying <tt>."</tt> or <tt>,"</tt> is always better than putting the quotation mark first, and <tt>.)</tt> or <tt>.")</tt> are similarly preferable to <tt>).</tt> and <tt>").</tt> please? We also need to remind editors that numbered hyperlinks come after periods, commas, and parentheses, not before them. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.83|172.69.33.83]] 03:30, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:...Erm. For quotes, it depends. If a proper sentence(-fragment) then I'd put punctuation in front (entry and exit), with ','=>'.' or vice-versa, as required by the full container sentence, but retaining notable exclamation- and question-marks. <tt>He said, "Erm," with a hint of hesitation, "For quotes, it depends."</tt> I know this is how I was taught to deal with quoted speech (close on fifty years ago), although I know standards change, and it may not even then have been so necessary for non-speech quotations. Yet certainly if I were to mention a set of randomish words like "Red green blue" (or "Red", "Green" and "Blue", perhaps) I would unhesitatingly consider it utterly wrong to move punctuation within any such quotation section. And note that an Oxford Comma (even without the quotes) would confuse matters in that second example.<br />
:As for <tt>.)</tt> (etc), I've seen somebody ''wrongly'' do this. Do not do it if you have a in-sentence parenthesis (like this). I have never seen any suggestion that you'd do that (like this.) [<= Deliberately wrong!] And, even if it works "like a quote", it ''really'' looks wrong to me. (The clear exception is when you entirely make a sentence parenthetical, like this.)<br />
:Now, this is just my own experience/preference/habituation. I have no doubt there are alternative points of view, which I would welcome to be added hereafter. But, whilst supporting the ''initial'' idea to precede quotes with punctuation (yet content to let it slip when others have prior authorship and it causes no additional confusion), I rail against it as an unwavering/absolutist style for all quotes ("quotes" ''and'' 'quotes', and maybe even «quotes» and the rest?) and especially it having any bearing at all in any bracketting/bracing/parenthesi(s|z)ing situations where full and proper start/end mark nesting should be adhered to as the ''only'' useful criteria.<br />
:An interesting counter-examplee, however, might even mean individualised punctuation either side of a close-paren (if the sentence somehow does not require the same mark as the aside somehow begs, whether that be exclamation, question or even… ellipsis…?!?). Just so. But I'd normally consider rewriting that, as too stream-of-consciousness-like. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.73|162.158.159.73]] 04:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::This is covered in sections [https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/16/ch06/ch06_sec005.html 6.5] and [https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/16/ch06/ch06_sec009.html 6.9] of the ''Chicago Manual of Style''. The intent is to aid readability. The reasons for variation from such style guidelines are evident when they are compelling, but whether a quotation doesn't actually end with a comma is simply not a compelling reason to write typography which distracts the ordinary reader. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.213|172.70.206.213]] 09:32, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::(Chicago links need registration to access, so no idea whose arguments/what alternative it supports.)<br />
:::There are many Style Manuals (I'd defer to H. W. Fowler's ''Modern English Usage'', if forced). But, I would say, clarity is king above all. And I think the original suggestion is incorrect in that regard.<br />
:::And depends upon medium. I was taught to put a little finger between words when learning to write with nibbed-pens (and don't smudge/flick the ink!) and a thumb-width indent to each paragraph's first line. Later two spacebars between sentences (and four as indent) when typing.<br />
:::But that's old-hat (and doesn't survive whitespace condensing in XMLish context, etc, anyway). Spell things correctly (or, because of where Randall lives, all Americanised!) and try not to be accidentally ambiguous! And "-1" to original suggestion. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.80|172.70.91.80]] 12:04, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::A Google search on, "Fowler's Modern English on quotation," returns the question, "What is the correct punctuation for quotes?," in the second paragraph of results. Clicking on it shows the answer, "Commas and periods always go inside the quotation marks in American English; dashes, colons, and semicolons almost always go outside the quotation marks; question marks and exclamation marks sometimes go inside, sometimes stay outside."[https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/] Does ''Fowler'' diverge from ''Chicago'' in any of these respects? The paywall has a free 30-day trial, and it isn't difficult to find citations to those sections elsewhere. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.163|172.70.206.163]] 21:38, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::(On principle, I don't do 'free trials', but that's just me and a comment on being asked to check something that has hoops to it.)<br />
:::::Like I said, ''if forced'', I'd defer to Fowler of the many options, after the clear suggestion that Chicago was effectively the ''Académie Française'' of English, no matter which flavo[u]r of the lingo you're defaulting to. And [https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/british-versus-american-style.html this article is interesting], but I'm not sure I agree with its single-/double-quotes mark primacy suggestion.<br />
:::::Anyway, when it's an actual speech-quoting-quote I'd probably adhere to preceding the quotation marks. But was resonding to OP's (your?) suggestion that it "is always better". And, coincidentally, just there it is not. Furthermore, Fowler does suggest that where a sentence is equally clear with and without punctuation, one should leave it out. I may not always stick to that myself, with an inordinate love of comma-bound sub-clausing, but I find it a decent principle to aspire to.<br />
:::::As for "Foo (bar.)"-form sentences. No. Just no. Though "(Foo bar.)", and then always so in that case! Noting that you've not defended this part of the original idea, so I don't feel the need to continue to flog that aparently terminal equine.<br />
:::::It's all just opinions, however, just to demonstrate my feelings on the subject as sympathetic to the gist of OP's first respondant. I have no idea if OP and Chicago-linker (and, in turn Chicago-trialler) are the same person or just separately of the opposing opinion. Let those who actually administer the site have the ultimate say (if they wish to have), naturally. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.201|172.69.79.201]] 23:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::The reason we don't try to assign identities to the sources of ideas when we discuss them, is because we believe, as Oscar Wilde once said, the value of the idea is greater than the value of the person expressing the idea. Would you please answer the question about whether ''Fowler'' diverges from ''Chicago?'' [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.83|172.69.33.83]] 23:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I have yet to delve into the Windy City's precise text. And Fowler has said much, but how about:<br />
[...] Neatness is the sole consideration; just as the ears may be regarded as not hearing organs, but 'handsome volutes of the human capital', so quotation marks may be welcomed as giving a good picturesque finish to a sentence; those who are of this way of thinking must feel that, if they allowed outside them anything short of fine handsome stops like the exclamation and question marks, they would be countenancing an anticlimax. But they are really mere conservatives, masquerading only as aesthetes; and their conservatism will soon have to yield. Argument on the subject is impossible; it is only a question whether the printer's love for the old ways that seem to him so neat, or the writer's and reader's desire to be understood and to understand fully, is to prevail."<br />
:::::::And later, as part of a conclusion, the interesting:<br />
[...] We recommend that the Times method should be abandoned, and the first or second of the others used according to circumstances.<br />
The next question is, Whence is this income derived?—Times.<br />
The next question is 'Whence is this income derived?'. (Full direct quotation. Observe the 'monstrosity' stop)<br />
The next question is whence this income is derived. (Indirect quotation)<br />
The next question is 'Whence this income is derived'. (Indirect quotation with quotation marks, or half-and-half quotation, like the Borrow sentence)<br />
:::::::Far too much to copypasta. The concluding para just over-eggs my already eggy pudding, so above are just two of the many interesting bits that popped up in the source given at the top of my own definitive search (by exactly the same terms as given above), that demonstrate the evolution of what might be considered acceptible (and why) going into the future, ''[https://www.bartleby.com/116/406.html from 1908]''! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.11|162.158.159.11]] 10:06, 4 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Math Formatting==<br />
Math formatting seems to be broken. For example, the following (from [[2435: Geothmetic Meandian]]) doesn't compile:<br />
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<math>\left(\prod_{i=1}^n x_i\right)^\frac{1}{n} = \sqrt[n]{x_1 x_2 \cdots x_n}</math><br />
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Perhaps a configuration error? The LaTeX markup is correct, and it works on Wikipedia and TeX processing systems like Overleaf, but not here. Simple things like <math>E=mc^2</math> seem to work, but more slightly more advanced things like uppercase greek letters (e.g., ''\Pi'') and delimiters (e.g., ''\left('' or ''\right)'') don't seem to.<br />
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Or is this by design, and math formulas really shouldn't be part of explanations? That seems a bit odd to me (especially for an xkcd explanation wiki), but I'm new here and I'm not sure.<br />
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:Math formulas should be a part of the explanation. I think this is an error. I am having trouble with this too. I am correcting a formula on 2117. A simple change of superscript positioning triggers the same error for me. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.141|172.69.58.141]] 19:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Clarify "removing Discussion (from main comic article) if it gets too long" ==<br />
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''What'' gets too long: Article or Discussion (or the net sum of both)? How much ''is'' too long? Is there a 'hmm maybe' buffer, given the inconsistencies in application across articles? Do you just scrap {{template|comic discussion}} (noting header-tab to the Talk: page is always there), or do you leave an explanatory surrogate link for the no-longer-embedded section (especially as others may arrive later and presume that it was missed/removed for no good reason, never mind actually disagreeing over the utility...). And do you do it unilaterally/anonymously, or is it better to posit the change (RFC it, on the relevent Talk: page, or perhaps a Community Portal-like global review page/section) ''before'' stepping in to do so without opposing voices?<br />
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I can see why it's a sensible guideline, but I'm not confident that it is being consistently applied (one way or another, or both), and it could do with concensus rather than seemingly arbitrary application at the whim of any old editor. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.235|172.70.91.235]] 10:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== How do I..? ==<br />
How do I add text in my user page?[[User:Ninojin3DD|/&#124;/ i /&#124;/ () jin 3 &#124;) &#124;)]] ([[User talk:Ninojin3DD|talk]]) 12:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)<br />
:I ''think'' you're asking about why your User Page doesn't actually exist yet, and why you can't create it.<br />
:Direct answer: It takes a small but significant amount of time spent on the site before you get the ability to create pages yourself (standard procedure). If you wait a while (and ideally show your ability to be a good editor), then you'll get granted that possibility.<br />
:Indirect (but probably quicker to happen) answer: Convince someone else, already a regular named editor, to create the page(s) for you. Ask nicely, obviously. Or (the lazy way), consider the above as your request and wait for someone to take pity on you on the basis of this. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.93|172.68.205.93]] 18:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC) (PS, moved it from a rather unrelated secction. But you'll get the hang of that kind of thing, I'm sure.) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.205.93|172.68.205.93]] 18:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)<br />
::Done '''[[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#A9C6CA">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#516874">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 21:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)<br />
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How do I add information tags that aren't incomplete tags? --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 08:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=373015User:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T08:21:29Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Pet peeves */</p>
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<div>==Welcome==<br />
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Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
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==Things about me!!==<br />
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*I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br />
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*I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet)<br />
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*My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron!<br />
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*My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences.<br />
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*I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale.<br />
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*I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to!<br />
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==My favorites!==<br />
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*Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br />
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*Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and you can just look it up yourself, like a normal person. Or, if you're too lazy, just click [https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.color-hex.com%2Fcolor%2Fd2993d here], you absolute...lazy...person...that didn't land as well as I had thought it would.<br />
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*Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br />
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*Favorite word: {{xkcd|1932|Autometalogolex}}, previously indubitably. <br />
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*Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br />
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*Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br />
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==Cool things I can do==<br />
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*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
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*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
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*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
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*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
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==Pet peeves==<br />
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*The phrase "pet peeves"<br />
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==Things I hate==<br />
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*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
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*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
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==Updates!==<br />
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*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
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*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great! My first 3D movie ever!<br />
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*(2025/04/15) I've just realized I can create new pages now! (if you're wondering, I asked someone else to make the page for me). It's a bit ironic that I didn't need to ask someone else and that I could have waited literally two days.</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=373014User:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T08:20:19Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Updates! */</p>
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<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
*I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br />
<br />
*I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet)<br />
<br />
*My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron!<br />
<br />
*My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences.<br />
<br />
*I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale.<br />
<br />
*I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to!<br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
*Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br />
<br />
*Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and you can just look it up yourself, like a normal person. Or, if you're too lazy, just click [https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.color-hex.com%2Fcolor%2Fd2993d here], you absolute...lazy...person...that didn't land as well as I had thought it would.<br />
<br />
*Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br />
<br />
*Favorite word: {{xkcd|1932|Autometalogolex}}, previously indubitably. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
<br />
*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
<br />
*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
<br />
*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great! My first 3D movie ever!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/15) I've just realized I can create new pages now! (if you're wondering, I asked someone else to make the page for me). It's a bit ironic that I didn't need to ask someone else and that I could have waited literally two days.</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Ninojin3DD&diff=373013User talk:Ninojin3DD2025-04-15T08:17:30Z<p>Xnerkcd: Created page with "Hey, I noticed you didn't have a talk page yet, so I thought you might want one! Here you go! --~~~~"</p>
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<div>Hey, I noticed you didn't have a talk page yet, so I thought you might want one! Here you go! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 08:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=373011User:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T07:47:21Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* My favorites! */</p>
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<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
*I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br />
<br />
*I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet)<br />
<br />
*My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron!<br />
<br />
*My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences.<br />
<br />
*I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale.<br />
<br />
*I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to!<br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
*Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br />
<br />
*Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and you can just look it up yourself, like a normal person. Or, if you're too lazy, just click [https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.color-hex.com%2Fcolor%2Fd2993d here], you absolute...lazy...person...that didn't land as well as I had thought it would.<br />
<br />
*Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br />
<br />
*Favorite word: {{xkcd|1932|Autometalogolex}}, previously indubitably. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
<br />
*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
<br />
*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
<br />
*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great! My first 3D movie ever!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=373010User:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T07:46:15Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* My favorites! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
*I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br />
<br />
*I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet)<br />
<br />
*My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron!<br />
<br />
*My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences.<br />
<br />
*I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale.<br />
<br />
*I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to!<br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
*Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br />
<br />
*Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and you can just look it up. Or, if you're too lazy, just click [https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.color-hex.com%2Fcolor%2Fd2993d here], you absolute...lazy...person...that didn't land as well as I had thought it would.<br />
<br />
*Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br />
<br />
*Favorite word: {{xkcd|1932|Autometalogolex}}, previously indubitably. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
<br />
*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
<br />
*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
<br />
*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great! My first 3D movie ever!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=373009User:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T07:45:11Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Updates! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
*I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br />
<br />
*I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet)<br />
<br />
*My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron!<br />
<br />
*My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences.<br />
<br />
*I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale.<br />
<br />
*I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to!<br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
*Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br />
<br />
*Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and you can just look it up. Or, if you're too lazy, just click [https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.color-hex.com%2Fcolor%2Fd2993d here]<br />
<br />
*Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br />
<br />
*Favorite word: {{xkcd|1932|Autometalogolex}}, previously indubitably. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
<br />
*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
<br />
*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
<br />
*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great! My first 3D movie ever!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=373008User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-15T07:42:15Z<p>Xnerkcd: Replaced content with "So originally, this had just been flooded with me trying to tell people wrong information, and then telling them stuff that they already knew. So I've decided to just star..."</p>
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<div>So originally, this had just been flooded with me trying to tell people wrong information, and then telling them stuff that they already knew. So I've decided to just start over again. If your comment(s) were deleted, I don't mean any offense, I just wanted to start over again.<br />
<br />
So, with that over, welcome to my talk page! You can ask me any questions or whatever, just use it as a normal discussion page. --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372956User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T18:00:41Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Things about me!! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
*I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br />
<br />
*I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet)<br />
<br />
*My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron!<br />
<br />
*My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences.<br />
<br />
*I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale.<br />
<br />
*I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to!<br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
*Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br />
<br />
*Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and you can just look it up. Or, if you're too lazy, just click [https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.color-hex.com%2Fcolor%2Fd2993d here]<br />
<br />
*Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br />
<br />
*Favorite word: {{xkcd|1932|Autometalogolex}}, previously indubitably. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
<br />
*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
<br />
*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
<br />
*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=372950User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T17:57:05Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* After comments, add two new lines. To reply to someone else's comment, use one new line, but add a colon at the start! */</p>
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<div>There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
<font color="#D2993D"><s>Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki></s></font> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:Huh, sure. I'm curious, why did you pick "xnerkcd" instead of "'''xkc'''ner'''d'''"? Also, no worries for the page creation! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:<font color= "#D2993D">I didn't really think of that! I might change that later, maybe. Thanks! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)</font><br />
=== Demonstrative section ===<br />
There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
::<font color="#D2993D"><s>Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki></s></font> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:::The standard method is to add an indent (or an extra one, on top of what's already there) when making a reply. A line starting with one or more :s will automatically line-feed itself from whatever is prior. Demonstrated for you (having copied ''just before'' Favi replied again), hope you don't mind.<br />
:::And if you're doing multiple paragraphs at the same level of reply (other than zero indent - see below), it sorts itself. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Or, if someone starts a new comment, two line-feeds forces the newline (where one doesn't render after just the one). And it also looks better in the editor, as the gap (together with the observeed number of colons, or lack of them) shows what's separate and what follows on from elsewhere. Not that all Talk pages are always so neat, but if you go and look at the appearance/'edit text' of any fairly busy comic Talk page, you'll probably see how it works.<br />
<br/>Personally, I restrict br-tags for when I'm starting a new paragraph of the same (no-indent) comment, like this. But I suspect there's multiple schools of thoughts whether the br should sit at the end of one stretch of text (where it might indicate "no, I haven't forgotten to sign, continues on next line") or at the start of the next (as I've done here, for completely different aesthetic reasons).<br />
<br/>...anyway, welcome! May all your edits be fun to make and useful to read! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Hah! You violated the only rule of this talk page! You shall now be banished. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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<font color="#D2993D">Yeah, sorry! I forgot how comments worked for a second and was confused by like, why doesn't enter start a newline here? I figured it out later, but I had already said the things. Yeah, so, do that.</font><br />
<br />
<b>After comments, add <i>two</i> new lines. To reply to someone else's comment, use <i>one</i> new line, but <i> add a colon at the start!</i></b><br />
<font color="#D2993D"> Also, if you see this color text, that's me! Please don't steal it and pretend you're me!<br />
Sorry for being such a noob! Thanks! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)</font><br />
:Oh jesus whats going on here? I don't really think we need that heading, but I'll let IP explain why. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 17:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372946User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T17:55:09Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* My favorites! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
*Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br />
<br />
*Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and you can just look it up. Or, if you're too lazy, just click [https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.color-hex.com%2Fcolor%2Fd2993d here]<br />
<br />
*Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br />
<br />
*Favorite word: {{xkcd|1932|Autometalogolex}}, previously indubitably. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br />
<br />
*Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
<br />
*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
<br />
*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
<br />
*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372939User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T17:42:56Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Cool things I can do */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
*Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br />
<br />
*Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br />
<br />
*Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br />
<br />
*It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372937User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T17:42:03Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Pet peeves */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
*People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br />
<br />
*People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372936User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T17:41:32Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Updates! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
*(2025/04/14) Watched the Minecraft movie earlier today! It was great!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=xkcd&diff=372908xkcd2025-04-14T11:08:56Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* The name xkcd */</p>
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[[File:Terrible small logo.png|200px|right]]{{TOC}}{{Quote|A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language.|[https://xkcd.com xkcd.com]}}<br />
<br />
'''''xkcd''''' is a webcomic drawn by [[Randall Munroe]] and hosted at [https://xkcd.com xkcd.com]. It focuses on {{w|science}}, {{w|mathematics}}, {{w|technology}}, and general {{w|geek|geekiness}}, told with a light, quirky sense of humor, and at times profound philosophizing. Its art style is minimalist, told through simple [[stick figure]]s. New comics are posted every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and are accompanied by a [[Title text|title text]], serving as Randall's commentary.<br />
<br />
==Style==<br />
''xkcd'' comics are usually plain, predominantly black-and-white line drawings, but [[:Category:Comics with color|sometimes]] they make use of hues beyond the usual monochrome colors, even if it is just [[:Category:Comics with red annotations|red annotations]]. Although quite complex objects can be drawn, or conventionally cartoon-like representations of things and [[:Category:Squirrels|animals]], a majority of the people featured are [[stick figure]]s who have become a cast of recurring [[characters]]. The ''xkcd'' art style has undergone many changes over time. Initially, the comics were made by scanning hand-drawn sketches. However, they eventually transitioned to being entirely digitally inked and lettered. Another notable change was in the style of text used. While [[:Category:Comics with lowercase text|early comics featured sentence-case text]], Randall began writing in all-caps non-cursive handwriting with [[90: Jacket]]. It took several comics for this to become the standard practice. In the early days of ''xkcd'', Randall used [[:Category:Checkered paper|checkered paper]] with a grid for most of his initial drawings. This grid became a distinctive part of the style of the early ''xkcd'' comics, as it was used for most of his LiveJournal comics, and the last comic by date to use it was [[39: Bowl]]. The faint remains of gridlines in some comics suggest that Randall may have erased gridlines in these comics. In 2012, Randall revived the blue grid as a background image for ''[[what if? (blog)|what if?]]''.<br />
<br />
Occasionally, Randall releases comics that go beyond the norm. These unique comics might involve user interactivity, utilize specific HTTP behaviors, or explore innovative graphic techniques, setting them apart from the ordinary static comics. He will use {{w|GIF#Animated GIF|animated GIFs}}, rather than standard formats, for some of the simpler [[:Category:Comics with animation|dynamic comic]] images and will engage with complex page and server-side scripting to present the reader with the more immersive or interactive content.<br />
<br />
==The name ''xkcd''==<br />
</noinclude><!--PAGE TRANSCLUDED IN [[207]], DON'T REMOVE <noinclude> TAGS PLEASE -->{{Quote|It's not actually an acronym. It's just a word with no phonetic pronunciation — a treasured and carefully-guarded point in the space of four-character strings.|[[Randall Munroe]]|[https://xkcd.com/about/ About xkcd]}}<br />
<br />
{{Quote|Actually, I've been using [''xkcd''] as just a unique point in the space of four-character strings to point to me. I've been using it as my name on every service box since at least the nineties, because I got tired of changing my name every time my interest changed. I started out when I was 10 years old when AOL first popped up and I was on there as, I think I had, first, "Skywalker4", then "Animorph7", and then [...] other names [...] like "Redtailedhawk6" or something. Eventually, I was like, I'm tired of names that point to other things, that identify me with those things. I want to get a string that will just point uniquely to me that's not my name, because that's kind of boring. And so, I [decided] to generate random strings and find one that had a certain set of qualities, which included:<br />
*''none of the letters could be mistaken for other letters [or] numbers, so no "L", because "L", lower-cased, can look like "i" or "1";''<br />
*''it couldn't have any obvious acronym decoding [...] or be an existing acronym;''<br />
*''it couldn't be pronounceable because then it would sound like [...] a word, and people would think of other words like it.''<br />
''So, I searched though a bunch of names that weren't taken, until I found one that wasn't taken on all the services I wanted.|[[Randall Munroe]]|in a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}zJOS0sV2a24#t{{=}}44m31s speech for Google]}}<br />
<br />
According to the [https://xkcd.com/about ''xkcd FAQ''] and [[Randall Munroe]] himself, the name ''xkcd'' doesn't stand for anything. He [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24#t=44m31s says] it originated as a previously unused random four-letter string which he used as his username on various internet services. <noinclude><!-- PAGE TRANSCLUDED IN [[207]], DON'T REMOVE <noinclude> TAGS PLEASE -->See also the comic titled [[207: What xkcd Means]]. </noinclude>There are other theories about what ''xkcd'' might stand for:<br />
* If each letter of the alphabet is [https://web.archive.org/web/20090908204959im_/http://explainxkcd.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/XKCD1.jpg mapped to 1 through 26], the sum of the values for "x", "k", "c", and "d" is equal to 42, which is the answer given to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything by the supercomputer in ''{{w|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy}}''. However, according to Randall himself, this is a coincidence.{{Actual citation needed}}<br />
* A [https://web.archive.org/web/20200728001540/https://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/c2049n/the_names_mystery_unveiled/ now-deleted] Reddit account noted that typing "xkcd" on a Persian QWERTY keyboard returns "طنزی", which means satirical, sarcastic, and comic.<br />
* "x", "k", "c", and "d" are consecutive letters when typed on a left-handed [[:Category:Dvorak|Dvorak]] keyboard.<br />
* "xkcd" should always be either entirely lowercase (xkcd) or entirely uppercase (XKCD). Standard capitalization should <b><i>not</i></b> be used (Xkcd). (see [https://xkcd.com/about/ here])<!--<br />
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{{incomplete|Need to add info about capitalization ([https://xkcd.com/about/ should always be lowercase], but here are some examples where he himself used the uppercase version, etc.)}}<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
:''Main article: [[LiveJournal]].''<br />
<br />
{{:LiveJournal}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:xkcd| 1]]{{xkcdmeta}}</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=xkcd&diff=372907xkcd2025-04-14T11:06:11Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* The name xkcd */</p>
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[[File:Terrible small logo.png|200px|right]]{{TOC}}{{Quote|A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language.|[https://xkcd.com xkcd.com]}}<br />
<br />
'''''xkcd''''' is a webcomic drawn by [[Randall Munroe]] and hosted at [https://xkcd.com xkcd.com]. It focuses on {{w|science}}, {{w|mathematics}}, {{w|technology}}, and general {{w|geek|geekiness}}, told with a light, quirky sense of humor, and at times profound philosophizing. Its art style is minimalist, told through simple [[stick figure]]s. New comics are posted every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and are accompanied by a [[Title text|title text]], serving as Randall's commentary.<br />
<br />
==Style==<br />
''xkcd'' comics are usually plain, predominantly black-and-white line drawings, but [[:Category:Comics with color|sometimes]] they make use of hues beyond the usual monochrome colors, even if it is just [[:Category:Comics with red annotations|red annotations]]. Although quite complex objects can be drawn, or conventionally cartoon-like representations of things and [[:Category:Squirrels|animals]], a majority of the people featured are [[stick figure]]s who have become a cast of recurring [[characters]]. The ''xkcd'' art style has undergone many changes over time. Initially, the comics were made by scanning hand-drawn sketches. However, they eventually transitioned to being entirely digitally inked and lettered. Another notable change was in the style of text used. While [[:Category:Comics with lowercase text|early comics featured sentence-case text]], Randall began writing in all-caps non-cursive handwriting with [[90: Jacket]]. It took several comics for this to become the standard practice. In the early days of ''xkcd'', Randall used [[:Category:Checkered paper|checkered paper]] with a grid for most of his initial drawings. This grid became a distinctive part of the style of the early ''xkcd'' comics, as it was used for most of his LiveJournal comics, and the last comic by date to use it was [[39: Bowl]]. The faint remains of gridlines in some comics suggest that Randall may have erased gridlines in these comics. In 2012, Randall revived the blue grid as a background image for ''[[what if? (blog)|what if?]]''.<br />
<br />
Occasionally, Randall releases comics that go beyond the norm. These unique comics might involve user interactivity, utilize specific HTTP behaviors, or explore innovative graphic techniques, setting them apart from the ordinary static comics. He will use {{w|GIF#Animated GIF|animated GIFs}}, rather than standard formats, for some of the simpler [[:Category:Comics with animation|dynamic comic]] images and will engage with complex page and server-side scripting to present the reader with the more immersive or interactive content.<br />
<br />
==The name ''xkcd''==<br />
</noinclude><!--PAGE TRANSCLUDED IN [[207]], DON'T REMOVE <noinclude> TAGS PLEASE -->{{Quote|It's not actually an acronym. It's just a word with no phonetic pronunciation — a treasured and carefully-guarded point in the space of four-character strings.|[[Randall Munroe]]|[https://xkcd.com/about/ About xkcd]}}<br />
<br />
{{Quote|Actually, I've been using [''xkcd''] as just a unique point in the space of four-character strings to point to me. I've been using it as my name on every service box since at least the nineties, because I got tired of changing my name every time my interest changed. I started out when I was 10 years old when AOL first popped up and I was on there as, I think I had, first, "Skywalker4", then "Animorph7", and then [...] other names [...] like "Redtailedhawk6" or something. Eventually, I was like, I'm tired of names that point to other things, that identify me with those things. I want to get a string that will just point uniquely to me that's not my name, because that's kind of boring. And so, I [decided] to generate random strings and find one that had a certain set of qualities, which included:<br />
*''none of the letters could be mistaken for other letters [or] numbers, so no "L", because "L", lower-cased, can look like "i" or "1";''<br />
*''it couldn't have any obvious acronym decoding [...] or be an existing acronym;''<br />
*''it couldn't be pronounceable because then it would sound like [...] a word, and people would think of other words like it.''<br />
''So, I searched though a bunch of names that weren't taken, until I found one that wasn't taken on all the services I wanted.|[[Randall Munroe]]|in a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}zJOS0sV2a24#t{{=}}44m31s speech for Google]}}<br />
<br />
According to the [https://xkcd.com/about ''xkcd FAQ''] and [[Randall Munroe]] himself, the name ''xkcd'' doesn't stand for anything. He [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24#t=44m31s says] it originated as a previously unused random four-letter string which he used as his username on various internet services. <noinclude><!-- PAGE TRANSCLUDED IN [[207]], DON'T REMOVE <noinclude> TAGS PLEASE -->See also the comic titled [[207: What xkcd Means]]. </noinclude>There are other theories about what ''xkcd'' might stand for:<br />
* If each letter of the alphabet is [https://web.archive.org/web/20090908204959im_/http://explainxkcd.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/XKCD1.jpg mapped to 1 through 26], the sum of the values for "x", "k", "c", and "d" is equal to 42, which is the answer given to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything by the supercomputer in ''{{w|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy}}''. However, according to Randall himself, this is a coincidence.{{Actual citation needed}}<br />
* A [https://web.archive.org/web/20200728001540/https://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/c2049n/the_names_mystery_unveiled/ now-deleted] Reddit account noted that typing "xkcd" on a Persian QWERTY keyboard returns "طنزی", which means satirical, sarcastic, and comic.<br />
* "x", "k", "c", and "d" are consecutive letters when typed on a left-handed [[:Category:Dvorak|Dvorak]] keyboard.<br />
* "xkcd" should always be either entirely lowercase (xkcd) or entirely uppercase (XKCD). Standard capitalization should <b><i>not</i></b> be used (Xkcd). <!--<br />
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{{incomplete|Need to add info about capitalization ([https://xkcd.com/about/ should always be lowercase], but here are some examples where he himself used the uppercase version, etc.)}}<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
:''Main article: [[LiveJournal]].''<br />
<br />
{{:LiveJournal}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:xkcd| 1]]{{xkcdmeta}}</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=xkcd&diff=372906xkcd2025-04-14T11:04:35Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
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[[File:Terrible small logo.png|200px|right]]{{TOC}}{{Quote|A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language.|[https://xkcd.com xkcd.com]}}<br />
<br />
'''''xkcd''''' is a webcomic drawn by [[Randall Munroe]] and hosted at [https://xkcd.com xkcd.com]. It focuses on {{w|science}}, {{w|mathematics}}, {{w|technology}}, and general {{w|geek|geekiness}}, told with a light, quirky sense of humor, and at times profound philosophizing. Its art style is minimalist, told through simple [[stick figure]]s. New comics are posted every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and are accompanied by a [[Title text|title text]], serving as Randall's commentary.<br />
<br />
==Style==<br />
''xkcd'' comics are usually plain, predominantly black-and-white line drawings, but [[:Category:Comics with color|sometimes]] they make use of hues beyond the usual monochrome colors, even if it is just [[:Category:Comics with red annotations|red annotations]]. Although quite complex objects can be drawn, or conventionally cartoon-like representations of things and [[:Category:Squirrels|animals]], a majority of the people featured are [[stick figure]]s who have become a cast of recurring [[characters]]. The ''xkcd'' art style has undergone many changes over time. Initially, the comics were made by scanning hand-drawn sketches. However, they eventually transitioned to being entirely digitally inked and lettered. Another notable change was in the style of text used. While [[:Category:Comics with lowercase text|early comics featured sentence-case text]], Randall began writing in all-caps non-cursive handwriting with [[90: Jacket]]. It took several comics for this to become the standard practice. In the early days of ''xkcd'', Randall used [[:Category:Checkered paper|checkered paper]] with a grid for most of his initial drawings. This grid became a distinctive part of the style of the early ''xkcd'' comics, as it was used for most of his LiveJournal comics, and the last comic by date to use it was [[39: Bowl]]. The faint remains of gridlines in some comics suggest that Randall may have erased gridlines in these comics. In 2012, Randall revived the blue grid as a background image for ''[[what if? (blog)|what if?]]''.<br />
<br />
Occasionally, Randall releases comics that go beyond the norm. These unique comics might involve user interactivity, utilize specific HTTP behaviors, or explore innovative graphic techniques, setting them apart from the ordinary static comics. He will use {{w|GIF#Animated GIF|animated GIFs}}, rather than standard formats, for some of the simpler [[:Category:Comics with animation|dynamic comic]] images and will engage with complex page and server-side scripting to present the reader with the more immersive or interactive content.<br />
<br />
==The name ''xkcd''==<br />
</noinclude><!--PAGE TRANSCLUDED IN [[207]], DON'T REMOVE <noinclude> TAGS PLEASE -->{{Quote|It's not actually an acronym. It's just a word with no phonetic pronunciation — a treasured and carefully-guarded point in the space of four-character strings.|[[Randall Munroe]]|[https://xkcd.com/about/ About xkcd]}}<br />
<br />
{{Quote|Actually, I've been using [''xkcd''] as just a unique point in the space of four-character strings to point to me. I've been using it as my name on every service box since at least the nineties, because I got tired of changing my name every time my interest changed. I started out when I was 10 years old when AOL first popped up and I was on there as, I think I had, first, "Skywalker4", then "Animorph7", and then [...] other names [...] like "Redtailedhawk6" or something. Eventually, I was like, I'm tired of names that point to other things, that identify me with those things. I want to get a string that will just point uniquely to me that's not my name, because that's kind of boring. And so, I [decided] to generate random strings and find one that had a certain set of qualities, which included:<br />
*''none of the letters could be mistaken for other letters [or] numbers, so no "L", because "L", lower-cased, can look like "i" or "1";''<br />
*''it couldn't have any obvious acronym decoding [...] or be an existing acronym;''<br />
*''it couldn't be pronounceable because then it would sound like [...] a word, and people would think of other words like it.''<br />
''So, I searched though a bunch of names that weren't taken, until I found one that wasn't taken on all the services I wanted.|[[Randall Munroe]]|in a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}zJOS0sV2a24#t{{=}}44m31s speech for Google]}}<br />
<br />
According to the [https://xkcd.com/about ''xkcd FAQ''] and [[Randall Munroe]] himself, the name ''xkcd'' doesn't stand for anything. He [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24#t=44m31s says] it originated as a previously unused random four-letter string which he used as his username on various internet services. <noinclude><!-- PAGE TRANSCLUDED IN [[207]], DON'T REMOVE <noinclude> TAGS PLEASE -->See also the comic titled [[207: What xkcd Means]]. </noinclude>There are other theories about what ''xkcd'' might stand for:<br />
* If each letter of the alphabet is [https://web.archive.org/web/20090908204959im_/http://explainxkcd.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/XKCD1.jpg mapped to 1 through 26], the sum of the values for "x", "k", "c", and "d" is equal to 42, which is the answer given to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything by the supercomputer in ''{{w|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy}}''. However, according to Randall himself, this is a coincidence.{{Actual citation needed}}<br />
* A [https://web.archive.org/web/20200728001540/https://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/c2049n/the_names_mystery_unveiled/ now-deleted] Reddit account noted that typing "xkcd" on a Persian QWERTY keyboard returns "طنزی", which means satirical, sarcastic, and comic.<br />
* "x", "k", "c", and "d" are consecutive letters when typed on a left-handed [[:Category:Dvorak|Dvorak]] keyboard.<br />
* "xkcd" should always be either entirely lowercase (xkcd) or entirely uppercase (XKCD). Standard capitalization should <b><i>not</b></i> be used (Xkcd). <!--<br />
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==History==<br />
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[[Category:xkcd| 1]]{{xkcdmeta}}</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1363:_xkcd_Phone&diff=3729051363: xkcd Phone2025-04-14T10:57:47Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Trivia */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1363<br />
| date = May 2, 2014<br />
| title = xkcd Phone<br />
| image = xkcd_phone.png<br />
| titletext = Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce. Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts. Price includes 2-year Knicks contract. Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles. If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives. Do not remove lead casing. Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal. Volume adjustable (requires root). If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately. Do not submerge in water; phone will drown. Exterior may be frictionless. Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures. Avert eyes while replacing battery. Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
This comic is a parody of a multitude of mobile-technology related issues that, when brought together, create a general satire of smartphone advertising. It was the first entry in the ongoing [[:Category:xkcd Phones|xkcd Phone series]] with the next [[1465: xkcd Phone 2]] released about nine months later. The advertised features here either make previously useful capabilities useless or add features nobody wants. <br />
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The phone's tagline, "Your mobile world just went digital", is purposefully outdated. It references a time when cell phones transitioned from analog to digital technology, which happened many years before the comic's publication. By marketing the xkcd Phone as "going digital," the implication is that it's a groundbreaking advancement, integrating computers and the internet into a market that has always involved these elements. However, the mobile phone market had already been digital for a long time, making the marketing of the xkcd phone seem dated and clueless.<br />
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=== Phone features ===<br />
From the top, going clockwise:<br />
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; Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
<br />
: iOS and Android are offered by different conglomerates and run on different kernels ({{w|Darwin (operating system)|Darwin}} and {{w|Linux kernel|Linux}}, respectively). A "custom blend" would probably be a nightmare to work with. <br />
<br />
; Simulates alternative speed of light (default<nowiki>:</nowiki> 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
<br />
: This renders the clock useless as a means of telling time. The {{w|speed of light}} is 299,792,458&nbsp;meters per second; relativistic effects, such as {{w|time dilation}}, are only noticeable at significant fractions of the speed of light. Since the phone is simulating a much slower speed of light, driving at even highway speeds will cause a significant amount of time dilation. For example, driving at 90&nbsp;mph (90% of the default simulated speed of light) will give a time dilation factor of about 2.29, causing the clock to advance only 26&nbsp;minutes for each hour; driving at exactly 100&nbsp;mph makes the dilation factor infinite and will stop the clock entirely. Driving beyond 100&nbsp;mph would make the clock start advancing through imaginary/complex time rather than real time, somehow, or maybe the phone will refuse to travel faster than 100&nbsp;mph.<br />
<br />
; Wireless<br />
<br />
: Here it's indented as "cordless phone". This is the bare minimum a phone has to have in order to be a mobile phone, so advertising it as a feature feels dated by decades. The alternative explanation, as in the phone has no wires at all, even inside, would render the phone either useless or extremely advanced technologically.<br />
<br />
; Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
<br />
: A humorous function. Rather than having some sort of feature to prevent breakage or cracking when a drop is detected, the phone just makes you more aware of its potential imminent doom.<br />
<br />
; When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
<br />
: Bait and switch, and also a build from the previous joke. The implied feature is that the screen or camera will automatically adjust, but instead the phone is weirdly anthropomorphized. This may also be an annoying feature as many people's phones are exposed to light quite frequently.{{citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; FlightAware partnership<nowiki>:</nowiki> makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
<br />
: This is a reference to the [http://www.flightaware.com/ FlightAware] flight tracking service. This FlightAware partnership results in the phone playing airplane engine noise whenever a flight passes over the phone's current location, an annoying and arbitrary feature. It may also be superfluous, as such noise may be heard from the plane itself, depending on altitude. This app was referenced in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
<br />
; Realistic case<br />
<br />
: It's possibly a joke on various audiovisual devices like gaming consoles that advertise realistic sound, graphics, etc. Of course, applying "realistic" to an actual physical case is ridiculous. Either the case is actually real, or it doesn't actually function as a case. Possible reference to [[331: Photoshops]], where [[Cueball]] finds a physical object to not look realistic. Could also be a reference to "case" as in "best case" or "worst case", which would make this the realistic case. This would also be ridiculous. It may be possible this is implying that most phone cases are organic, and this one is fake, so it is "realistic" in comparison to other phone cases. <br />
<br />
; Clear screen<br />
<br />
: This is a pointless descriptor from the perspective of the consumer because it's obvious that the screen is clear. This joke works in tandem with the previous joke, as a play on "clear case, realistic screen," which are both hypothetically viable selling points. It could also mean that the screen is clear all the way through, allowing you to see the electronics inside.<br />
<br />
; Side-facing camera<br />
<br />
: There was a recent controversy surrounding an [https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spy-cam-peek-i Indiegogo for a surreptitious, side-mounted camera device] for smartphones due to the advertisement of the device as a good way to take creep shots, which are illegal in many places. Widespread dissemination of these devices as a built-in feature would likely result in a sharp increase in delinquency of this nature. May also be an ''ad absurdum'' extension of devices with both forward and backward facing cameras.<br />
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=== Title text ===<br />
The ominous warnings and disclaimers in the title text are probably a reference to the ''Saturday Night Live'' parody ad for {{w|Happy Fun Ball}} ([https://youtu.be/GmqeZl8OI2M watch on YouTube]).<br />
<br />
; Presented in partnership with Qualcomm, Craigslist, Whirlpool, Hostess, LifeStyles, and the US Chamber of Commerce.<br />
<br />
: {{w|Qualcomm}} is a semiconductor company that designs and produces chips for mobile phones. {{w|Whirlpool Corporation}} is a large American multinational manufacturer and marketer of home appliances, while {{w|Whirlpool (website)|Whirlpool}} is a prominent Australian tech forum website, originally created for discussion of Australian broadband providers but now extending to cover general tech topics, including mobile phones. The other companies and lobbying organizations mentioned here have no association with mobile phones<!-- do explain them -->, though there is a long history of unrelated companies attempting to leverage their respective brands to help promote each other. {{w|Craigslist}} is a website which displays classified advertisements such as apartments for rent and items for sale. {{w|Hostess}} is a brand of snack cakes, whose best known product is {{w|Twinkies}}. {{w|LifeStyles}} is a brand of {{w|condom}}. The {{w|US Chamber of Commerce}} is a lobbyist group known for sponsoring political campaign ads, so their partnership with a phone manufacturer would imply some sort of political motive to its design.<br />
<br />
; Manufactured on equipment which also processes peanuts.<br />
<br />
: A warning often seen on candy and other foods for people with a peanut allergy. It is highly unlikely that equipment used to produce mobile phones would also process food.{{Citation needed}}<br />
<br />
; Price includes 2-year Knicks contract.<br />
<br />
: Mobile phones are often sold by phone companies in combination with a cell phone contract. The {{w|New York Knicks|Knicks}}, a team with a history of questionable personnel decisions, might in fact be willing to offer 2-year contracts (worth at least $1,100,000) to cellular phone purchasers regardless of their skill at basketball, though the vast majority of customers wouldn't be interested.<br />
<br />
; Phone may extinguish nearby birthday candles.<br />
<br />
: A rather oddly specific capability, which might also be annoying for anyone attempting to host a birthday party. As to how it would do this, a very powerful directional speaker would be able to blow out a nearby candle, but the speakers in mobile phones aren't going to be that big. It is also difficult to work out how the phone would detect and identify birthday candles. Perhaps when the phone senses light from candles, it says "hi" (see above) so loudly that they blow out. This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
<br />
; If phone ships with Siri, return immediately; do not speak to her and ignore any instructions she gives.<br />
<br />
: {{w|Siri}} is a virtual personal assistant application for Apple devices. Not speaking to it and not following its instructions would defeat its purpose. It may suggest that a malevolent "Siri AI" has sneaked itself onto some devices, at the manufacturing stage, for some diabolical purpose. This may be a reference to the Companion Cube in the game {{w|Portal (video game)|Portal}}, in which the player is instructed by GLaDOS to disregard its advice if the cube appears to be animate, or it may be a reference to the [[1450: AI-Box Experiment|AI-Box Experiment]], in which allowing the AI to engage you in conversation will almost certainly result in it successfully convincing you to let it out of the box (here, probably connecting the phone to a data network).<br />
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; Do not remove lead casing.<br />
<br />
: A mobile phone encased in lead would not function because it could not transmit or receive data. Devices that emit high levels of ionizing radiation are often encased in lead, but a phone that would emit that level of radiation would be unhealthy to carry around. If encased in sufficient lead to mitigate the danger, it would be uncomfortably heavy. This might be reference to [[925: Cell Phones]] where Randall makes fun of the {{w|WHO}} claiming that cell phones might cause cancer despite huge studies showing the opposite. This could also mean the device is an actual bananaphone as regular phones emit no ionizing radiation ([http://xkcd.com/radiation xkcd Radiation Dose Chart]). Regrettably, the lead casing would render the phone inedible, although this somewhat mitigates the issues with having been manufactured on equipment that also processes peanuts.<br />
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; Phone may attract/trap insects; this is normal.<br />
<br />
: Some plants, like the {{w|Venus flytrap}}, attract and trap insects, but mobile phones are not known to exhibit this behavior.{{Citation needed}} This could possibly be a play on software ''bugs'' being introduced to the phone more easily than usual, depending on the specifics of its operating system (made much more likely by its apparent custom-made blended OS (see above)). Also may be a reference to {{w|Rasberry crazy ants}} which are attracted to electronics.<br />
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; Volume adjustable (requires root). <br />
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: {{w|Android rooting|Rooting}} is the method to gain privileged access on Android phones, allowing one to access features that normal users would not and should not normally modify. Adjusting the volume should be available to any user and should not be restricted to root access only.{{Citation needed}}<br />
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; If you experience sudden tingling, nausea, or vomiting, perform a factory reset immediately.<br />
<br />
: These symptoms are usually associated with chemical or {{w|radiation poisoning}}. It is unclear why these would be cured by a {{w|factory reset}}, though software apps could plausibly be used to display nauseating visual effects. Radiation poisoning as a possible cause may also relate to the lead casing mentioned above. It is unclear how a (software-only) factory reset would repair a damaged lead casing. This may also be a reference to the series of similar disclaimers at the end of many medical advertisements.<br />
<br />
; Do not submerge in water; phone will drown.<br />
<br />
: Most phones are not waterproof and will probably short-circuit when submerged. The specific term of drowning would however imply that the phone breathes air (which actually would be possible if it had a {{w|Lithium–air battery}}). This may be to further anthropomorphize the phone.<br />
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; Exterior may be frictionless.<br />
<br />
: The front of a smartphone is usually made of glass and should have a surface with very low friction. The back of a phone is usually made from a material that has higher friction to make it pleasant to hold and to make sure it doesn't slide off objects it is placed on. A [[669: Experiment|completely frictionless surface]] would make it almost impossible to hold and would make it very susceptible to drops (at which point the phone will scream).<br />
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; Prolonged use can cause mood swings, short-term memory loss, and seizures.<br />
<br />
: These are all side effects that are associated with certain kinds of medication or radiation treatment of the brain and would not be acceptable for mobile phones. This may be the explanation for the memory loss in [[1660: Captain Speaking]].<br />
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; Avert eyes while replacing battery.<br />
<br />
: Actions that would warrant averting your eyes are usually associated with high-intensity light capable of causing eye damage. Depending on the specific energy source, this may be accompanied by high levels of other types of radiation (e.g. making an {{w|X-ray}} photo). This may hint that the phone might be powered by a {{w|radionuclide}} battery which would explain the lead casing and the possible radiation side effects. A phone that emits X-ray radiation would not be healthy to be around. Alternately, this may be a reference to the {{w|Ark Of The Covenant}}, implying that gazing upon the battery or the compartment wall behind it is forbidden on pain of severe punishment. Or merely that with its back removed the phone would be naked, and the user should avert their eyes to preserve the phone's modesty.<br />
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; Under certain circumstances, wireless transmitter may control God.<br />
<br />
: In {{w|monotheistic religions}}, God is the omnipotent creator of the universe; the very notion that He could be controlled is both heretical and, under some definitions of omnipotence, impossible (under others, omnipotence includes the ability to be or not to be controlled).<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[An image of a smartphone standing up with a small dot on the side and a single button at the bottom. Many labels are pointing to different parts of it. Clockwise from the top left they read:]<br />
:Runs custom blend of Android and iOS<br />
:Simulates alternative speed of light (default: 100 miles per hour) and adjusts clock as phone accelerates<br />
:Wireless<br />
:Accelerometer detects when phone is in free fall and makes it scream<br />
:When exposed to light, phone says "Hi!"<br />
:FlightAware partnership: Makes airplane noise when flights pass overhead<br />
:Realistic case<br />
:Clear screen<br />
:Side-facing camera<br />
<br />
:''Introducing''<br />
:<big><big>'''The xkcd Phone'''</big></big><br />
:Your mobile world just went digital® <br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
This might be the comic with the longest [[Title text|title text]], with a word count of 112.<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Comics sharing name|xkcd Phones]]<br />
[[Category:Religion]] <!-- Control God in title text --><br />
[[Category:Virtual Assistants]]<br />
[[Category:Aviation]] <!-- FlightAware --></div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372904User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T10:41:06Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Things about me!! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard). I just kind of like, <i>understand</i> math and science etc.<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/14) Watching the Minecraft movie later today! I'll tell you how it was after I've seen it!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372903User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T10:37:36Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* My favorites! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard).<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{xkcd|2862|Typical Seating Chart}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/14) Watching the Minecraft movie later today! I'll tell you how it was after I've seen it!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372902User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T10:36:54Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* My favorites! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard).<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|Click and Drag}} or {{xkcd|494|the Secretary series}}. Probably {{Typical Seating Chart|2862|xkcd.com}}. But otherwise, it would be {{xkcd|2765|Escape Speed}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/14) Watching the Minecraft movie later today! I'll tell you how it was after I've seen it!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372901User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T10:35:27Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* My favorites! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard).<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{xkcd|1110|xkcd.com}} or {{the Secretary series|494|xkcd.com}}. Probably {{Typical Seating Chart|2862|xkcd.com}}. But otherwise, it would be {{Escape Speed|2765|xkcd.com}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/14) Watching the Minecraft movie later today! I'll tell you how it was after I've seen it!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372900User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T10:34:09Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* My favorites! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard).<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either {{Click and Drag|1110|xkcd.com}} or {{the Secretary series|494|xkcd.com}}. Probably {{Typical Seating Chart|2862|xkcd.com}}. But otherwise, it would be {{Escape Speed|2765|xkcd.com}}. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/14) Watching the Minecraft movie later today! I'll tell you how it was after I've seen it!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372897User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T08:12:27Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Updates! */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard).<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either Click and Drag or the Secretary series. Probably Typical Seating Chart. But otherwise, it would be Escape Speed. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/13) I've made an updates subsection! Yay!<br />
<br />
-(2025/04/14) Watching the Minecraft movie later today! I'll tell you how it was after I've seen it!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Xnerkcd&diff=372895User:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T08:01:55Z<p>Xnerkcd: /* Pet peeves */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Welcome==<br />
<br />
Hey, this is my page! I'm so glad you decided to waste precious moments of your life reading this when you could literally be doing anything else right now!<br />
<br />
==Things about me!!==<br />
<br />
-I am a massive nerd (which I am told often, and I personally take it as a compliment in the <i>highest</i> regard).<br><br />
-I am going to try to become an astronaut for either the ESA or NASA (I haven't decided which yet) <br><br />
-My real name is nice try! I'm not <i>actually</i> going to give away personal information on the Internet! I'm not 5 years old! You moron! <br><br />
-My mom is American, but met my dad online and moved to the UK and got married, so I have always had a bit of a struggle with cultural differences. <br><br />
-I love D&D! I am currently playing a Mastermind rogue named Elara Nightingale. <br><br />
-I'm Christian! I go to church regularly, and I love God. If you want to talk about my faith with me, or just Christianity in general, then I'd love to! <br><br />
<br />
==My favorites!==<br />
<br />
-Favorite subject: Math, or Science, or 3D Design (or as I call it, 3DD)<br><br />
-Favorite color: #D2993D. It's hexagesimal, and makes a sort of orange-brown<br><br />
-Favorite videogame: Gah, I don't know. Maybe Marvel Rivals. Maybe Zelda Ocarina Of Time. Maybe Skyrim. Maybe Mario Bros. Maybe Minecraft. I don't know.<br><br />
-Favorite word: Autometalogolex, previously indubitably. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD comic: If you're just talking about <i>comic</i> comics, then probably either Click and Drag or the Secretary series. Probably Typical Seating Chart. But otherwise, it would be Escape Speed. <br><br />
-Favorite XKCD character: Black Hat. Easy.<br><br />
<br />
==Cool things I can do==<br />
<br />
-Play piano (only a Grade 1, but I did get it with Distinction)<br><br />
-Write code (I can write Python fairly fluently-ish, HTML reasonably well, and I'm learning Lua for Pico-8. I can also use Scratch better than most, but that doesn't feel like proper coding to me)<br><br />
-Speak Spanish (Well, I do well in Spanish class. I also do my Duolingo. But I'm not fluent)<br><br />
-It's not a cool thing I can do <i> yet,</i> but I'm hoping to learn to do ham radio. My grandfather has one, and I want to learn.<br />
<br />
==Pet peeves==<br />
<br />
-People using CAPSLOCK instead of shift. It's right there guys, and you end up pressing the same button twice for one letter. IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL SENTENCE THEN OF COURSE USE IT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR but otherwise just use shift. Come on.<br><br />
-People watching the Harry Potter MOVIES before the BOOKS! LUPIN DOESN'T HAVE A MUSTACHE MY DAYS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
<br />
==Updates!==<br />
<br />
-I've made an updates subsection! Yay!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=372894User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T07:59:31Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
<hr />
<div>There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
<font color="#D2993D"><s>Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki></s></font> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:Huh, sure. I'm curious, why did you pick "xnerkcd" instead of "'''xkc'''ner'''d'''"? Also, no worries for the page creation! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:<font color= "#D2993D">I didn't really think of that! I might change that later, maybe. Thanks! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)</font><br />
=== Demonstrative section ===<br />
There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
::<font color="#D2993D"><s>Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki></s></font> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:::The standard method is to add an indent (or an extra one, on top of what's already there) when making a reply. A line starting with one or more :s will automatically line-feed itself from whatever is prior. Demonstrated for you (having copied ''just before'' Favi replied again), hope you don't mind.<br />
:::And if you're doing multiple paragraphs at the same level of reply (other than zero indent - see below), it sorts itself. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Or, if someone starts a new comment, two line-feeds forces the newline (where one doesn't render after just the one). And it also looks better in the editor, as the gap (together with the observeed number of colons, or lack of them) shows what's separate and what follows on from elsewhere. Not that all Talk pages are always so neat, but if you go and look at the appearance/'edit text' of any fairly busy comic Talk page, you'll probably see how it works.<br />
<br/>Personally, I restrict br-tags for when I'm starting a new paragraph of the same (no-indent) comment, like this. But I suspect there's multiple schools of thoughts whether the br should sit at the end of one stretch of text (where it might indicate "no, I haven't forgotten to sign, continues on next line") or at the start of the next (as I've done here, for completely different aesthetic reasons).<br />
<br/>...anyway, welcome! May all your edits be fun to make and useful to read! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Hah! You violated the only rule of this talk page! You shall now be banished. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<font color="#D2993D">Yeah, sorry! I forgot how comments worked for a second and was confused by like, why doesn't enter start a newline here? I figured it out later, but I had already said the things. Yeah, so, do that.</font><br />
<br />
==<b>After comments, add <i>two</i> new lines. To reply to someone else's comment, use <i>one</i> new line, but <i> add a colon at the start!</i></b>==<br />
<font color="#D2993D"> Also, if you see this color text, that's me! Please don't steal it and pretend you're me!<br />
Sorry for being such a noob! Thanks! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)</font></div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=372893User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T07:58:02Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
<hr />
<div>There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:Huh, sure. I'm curious, why did you pick "xnerkcd" instead of "'''xkc'''ner'''d'''"? Also, no worries for the page creation! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:<font color= "#D2993D">I didn't really think of that! I might change that later, maybe. Thanks! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 07:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)</font><br />
=== Demonstrative section ===<br />
There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
::<s>Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki></s> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:::The standard method is to add an indent (or an extra one, on top of what's already there) when making a reply. A line starting with one or more :s will automatically line-feed itself from whatever is prior. Demonstrated for you (having copied ''just before'' Favi replied again), hope you don't mind.<br />
:::And if you're doing multiple paragraphs at the same level of reply (other than zero indent - see below), it sorts itself. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Or, if someone starts a new comment, two line-feeds forces the newline (where one doesn't render after just the one). And it also looks better in the editor, as the gap (together with the observeed number of colons, or lack of them) shows what's separate and what follows on from elsewhere. Not that all Talk pages are always so neat, but if you go and look at the appearance/'edit text' of any fairly busy comic Talk page, you'll probably see how it works.<br />
<br/>Personally, I restrict br-tags for when I'm starting a new paragraph of the same (no-indent) comment, like this. But I suspect there's multiple schools of thoughts whether the br should sit at the end of one stretch of text (where it might indicate "no, I haven't forgotten to sign, continues on next line") or at the start of the next (as I've done here, for completely different aesthetic reasons).<br />
<br/>...anyway, welcome! May all your edits be fun to make and useful to read! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Hah! You violated the only rule of this talk page! You shall now be banished. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<font color="#D2993D">Yeah, sorry! I forgot how comments worked for a second and was confused by like, why doesn't enter start a newline here? I figured it out later, but I had already said the things. Yeah, so, do that.</font><br />
<br />
==<b>After comments, add <i>two</i> new lines. To reply to someone else's comment, use <i>one</i> new line, but <i> add a colon at the start!</i></b>==<br />
<font color="#D2993D"> Also, if you see this color text, that's me! Please don't steal it and pretend you're me!<br />
Sorry for being such a noob! Thanks!</font></div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=372892User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T07:53:03Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
<hr />
<div>There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:Huh, sure. I'm curious, why did you pick "xnerkcd" instead of "'''xkc'''ner'''d'''"? Also, no worries for the page creation! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:I didn't really think of that! I might change that later, maybe. Thanks!<br />
=== Demonstrative section ===<br />
There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
::<s>Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki></s> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:::The standard method is to add an indent (or an extra one, on top of what's already there) when making a reply. A line starting with one or more :s will automatically line-feed itself from whatever is prior. Demonstrated for you (having copied ''just before'' Favi replied again), hope you don't mind.<br />
:::And if you're doing multiple paragraphs at the same level of reply (other than zero indent - see below), it sorts itself. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Or, if someone starts a new comment, two line-feeds forces the newline (where one doesn't render after just the one). And it also looks better in the editor, as the gap (together with the observeed number of colons, or lack of them) shows what's separate and what follows on from elsewhere. Not that all Talk pages are always so neat, but if you go and look at the appearance/'edit text' of any fairly busy comic Talk page, you'll probably see how it works.<br />
<br/>Personally, I restrict br-tags for when I'm starting a new paragraph of the same (no-indent) comment, like this. But I suspect there's multiple schools of thoughts whether the br should sit at the end of one stretch of text (where it might indicate "no, I haven't forgotten to sign, continues on next line") or at the start of the next (as I've done here, for completely different aesthetic reasons).<br />
<br/>...anyway, welcome! May all your edits be fun to make and useful to read! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Hah! You violated the only rule of this talk page! You shall now be banished. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Yeah, sorry! I forgot how comments worked for a second and was confused by like, why doesn't enter start a newline here? I figured it out later, but I had already said the things. Yeah, so, do that.<br />
<br />
==<b>After comments, add <i>two</i> new lines. To reply to someone else's comment, use <i>one</i> new line, but <i> add a colon at the start!</i></b>==<br />
<br />
Sorry for being such a noob! Thanks!</div>Xnerkcdhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Xnerkcd&diff=372891User talk:Xnerkcd2025-04-14T07:50:21Z<p>Xnerkcd: </p>
<hr />
<div>There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:Huh, sure. I'm curious, why did you pick "xnerkcd" instead of "'''xkc'''ner'''d'''"? Also, no worries for the page creation! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 18:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
<br />
=== Demonstrative section ===<br />
There you go! --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 15:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks so much!! --[[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 16:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
::<s>Hey guys! This is my talk page, don't be afraid to use it! Just use it like a normal discussion page, but add a <nowiki> "<br>" after your ~~~~ please! Thanks!</nowiki></s> [[User:Xnerkcd|xnerkcd]] ([[User talk:Xnerkcd|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br><br />
:::The standard method is to add an indent (or an extra one, on top of what's already there) when making a reply. A line starting with one or more :s will automatically line-feed itself from whatever is prior. Demonstrated for you (having copied ''just before'' Favi replied again), hope you don't mind.<br />
:::And if you're doing multiple paragraphs at the same level of reply (other than zero indent - see below), it sorts itself. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Or, if someone starts a new comment, two line-feeds forces the newline (where one doesn't render after just the one). And it also looks better in the editor, as the gap (together with the observeed number of colons, or lack of them) shows what's separate and what follows on from elsewhere. Not that all Talk pages are always so neat, but if you go and look at the appearance/'edit text' of any fairly busy comic Talk page, you'll probably see how it works.<br />
<br/>Personally, I restrict br-tags for when I'm starting a new paragraph of the same (no-indent) comment, like this. But I suspect there's multiple schools of thoughts whether the br should sit at the end of one stretch of text (where it might indicate "no, I haven't forgotten to sign, continues on next line") or at the start of the next (as I've done here, for completely different aesthetic reasons).<br />
<br/>...anyway, welcome! May all your edits be fun to make and useful to read! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.15|162.158.74.15]] 18:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
:Hah! You violated the only rule of this talk page! You shall now be banished. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah, sorry! I forgot how comments worked for a second and was confused by like, why doesn't enter start a newline here? I figured it out later, but I had already said the things. Yeah, so, do that.<br />
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==<b>After comments, add <i>two</i> new lines. To reply to someone else's comment, use <i>one</i> new line, but <i> add a colon at the start!</i>==<br />
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Sorry for being such a noob! Thanks!</div>Xnerkcd