https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=108.162.249.163&feedformat=atomexplain xkcd - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T12:19:16ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1692:_Man_Page&diff=1216731692: Man Page2016-06-10T07:48:11Z<p>108.162.249.163: /* Explanation */ Minor additions.</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1692<br />
| date = June 10, 2016<br />
| title = Man Page<br />
| image = man_page.png<br />
| titletext = For even more info, see blarbl(2)(3) and birb(3ahhaha I'm kidding, just Google it like a normal person.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|As one of those comics, needs an explanation for each part. Also needs fact-checking.}}<br />
This comic shows a Unix man page for a fictional program called "blerp". It details the command line options for this program, many of which are strange, annoying, or even impossible. These options are mostly in alphabetical order.<br />
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Unix manpages are meant to provide a brief reference on the usage of a command, not verbose and well-written explanations as you may find in manuals which is another common type of documentation. This fictional manpage seems to exaggerate its crypticness, thus making fun of a common trait that many manpages have.<br />
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[[wikipedia:Command-line_interface#Command-line_option|Command-line options]], also known as flags, are typed following a program name to change how the program runs. The following is an example usage.<br />
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<code>blerp -a -d -t -p "AVIGNON"</code><br />
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This would run blerp in attack mode, outputting to DEBUG.EXE, with tumble dry, and with POPE set to AVIGNON. In most cases, any number of flags can be used in any order, and applicable flags can be followed by arguments (such as "AVIGNON" in this example).<br />
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{| class="wikitable"<br />
!Flag!!Description!!Explanation<br />
|-<br />
| -a||ATTACK MODE||This sounds like a command for a robot or something similar. Strange for a command line program. Possibly this is designed to break something?<br />
|-<br />
| -b||SUPPRESS BEES||Nonsensical option. This is a word play, meaning either to suppress [[wikipedia:Bee|Bee]]s (the insects) or the letter '''B'''. This is also a possible Discworld reference, as the long-term storage of the only recurring computer in the series is composed of bees<br />
|-<br />
| -—||FLAGS USE EM DASHES||Command line options (flags) typically use [[wikipedia:Hyphen|hyphens]] (short horizontal lines largely used within words). [[wikipedia:Dash#Em_dash|Em dashes]] (longer, with the same length as the letter "m") can't easily be typed into a command line interface, so switching flags from hyphens to em dashes is excessively difficult and nonsensical.<br />
Also implies a paradox where if flags were to use em dashes, this flag itself would be invalid.<br />
|-<br />
| -c||COUNT NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS||Most likely not useful.<br />
|-<br />
| -d||PIPES OUTPUT TO DEBUG.EXE||[[wikipedia:DEBUG.EXE|DEBUG.EXE]] is the old 16-bit debugger that came with MS-DOS. On a Unix system it is much more likely that one would use the [[wikipedia:GNU debugger|GNU debugger]] (GDB). A debugger is usually called by calling the debugger with the program (or script) to be debugged as parameter.<br />
[[wikipedia:Pipeline (Unix)|Piping]] in Unix means that the output of one program serves as input for another program.<br />
|-<br />
| -D||DEPRECATED||Many programs contain legacy options to avoid breaking scripts that use them. While the option should still work, the documentation is changed to say "deprecated" to discourage further use. Eventually such options usually get removed.<br />
|-<br />
| -e||EXECUTE SOMETHING||Vague.<br />
|-<br />
| -f||FUN MODE||Strange and slightly ominous, given some of the other options. See under -O.<br />
|-<br />
| -g||USE GOOGLE||As an actual program flag, a bit hackjob-ish, but it is possible it is telling the user to use Google to find out what this tag does.<br />
|-<br />
| -h||CHECK WHETHER INPUT HALTS||Completely impossible, by the Halting Theorem. [Wikipedia link, short explanation of why needed]<br />
|-<br />
| -i||IGNORE CASE (LOWER)||Usually, ignoring case means that a program will run without differentiating between upper- and lowercase. This flag suggests that blerp will run ignoring all the lowercase characters completely, or ignoring all the uppercase characters with -I.<br />
|-<br />
| -I||IGNORE CASE (UPPER)||See above. Also possible that all text is converted to upper case, or that upper-case requirements only are ignored<br />
|-<br />
| -jk||KIDDING||A common acronym, not a program flag. Also note that standard behavior of Unix command line options is that a single "-" can be followed by multiple one-letter options, making -jk equivalent to -j -k.<br />
|-<br />
| -n||BEHAVIOR NOT DEFINED||Possibly mathematically ominous? Otherwise useless.(Possible debug/unstable feature flag)<br />
|-<br />
| -o||OVERWRITE||Standard program flag, usually meaning that the program will overwrite a file rather than make a new one when data is output.May work strangely with -d.<br />
|-<br />
| -O||OPPOSITE DAY||Strange flag, possibly means that all other flags (or maybe even including this one!) have the opposite effects - if so, a lot of strange things would happen. (Especially with -b, -e, -f, -jk, -O...)<br />
|-<br />
| -p||SET TRUE POPE; ACCEPTS \"ROME\" OR \"AVIGNON\"||This refers to a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Schism historical schism in the Catholic Church.] In the 14th century, the Pope briefly ruled from Avignon, France, instead of Rome. After the Papacy was returned to Rome in 1377, the Church split (the so-called Western Schism) as not everyone accepted the move and the Pople who ordered it. This flag apparently allows the user to select a preferred Pope. There is actually a possible feature request here, as \"PISA\", a third Pope, should also be an option. <br />
|-<br />
| -q||QUIET MODE; OUTPUT IS PRINTED TO STDOUT INSTEAD OF BEING SPOKEN ALOUD||In most cases, a program will output basic information to the console, and running it in quiet mode will make it run without outputting anything. Blerp, on the other hand, outputs information through audio, and the quiet flag causes it to run like a normal program. "STDOUT" is short for "standard output".<br />
|-<br />
| -r||RANDOMIZE ARGUMENTS||Pointless and possibly damaging.<br />
|-<br />
| -R||RUN RECURSIVELY ON <nowiki>http://*</nowiki>||The star (*) symbol is often used as a wildcard to match any string of characters. "<nowiki>http://*</nowiki>" suggests that blerp will be run on every webpage on the internet, or on each page recursively. Whaat it might do in order to make this valid is also ominous.<br />
|-<br />
| -s||FOLLOW SYMBOLIC LINKS SYMBOLICALLY||[Needs explanation of symbolic links]<br />
|-<br />
| -S||STEALTH MODE||Similar to -a, in that it sounds more like an option for some kind of robot.<br />
|-<br />
| -t||TUMBLE DRY||Perhaps useful for a program that runs on a clothes dryer. Refers to [https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5254504/il_570xN.184726893.jpg directions like these]. Many clothing items are marked "do not tumble dry" in the care instructions, but this would be extremely difficult to make relevant to a program. Given the other flags, this may be less nonsensical than it would first appear..<br />
|-<br />
| -u||UTF-8 MODE; OTHERWISE DEFAULTS TO ANSEL||[[wikipedia:ANSEL|ANSEL]] is an old and obscure character encoding that predates ASCII. Using ANSEL as a default would be strange and largely incompatible with most modern systems. On the other hand, UTF-8 is rather standard. Similar in this regard to -q, blerp does something non-standard by default.<br />
|-<br />
| -U||UPDATE (DEFAULT: FACEBOOK)||Update usually refers to replacing an old software with a newer version. The default here suggests posting a status update to Facebook, sourcing an update form Facebook, or updating Facebook itself.<br />
|-<br />
| -v||VERBOSE; ALIAS TO find / -exec cat {}||Almost standard flag, in ordinary programs the opposite of -q - instead of silencing output, it makes it more specific, usually to help with debugging. Instead, this flag gets replaced with a command that prints the contents of all files in the filesystem tree. However, it will never complete, as certain device files never end (/dev/urandom contains random bytes). Note that the "find" command is missing <code>\;</code> and will not run, instead complaining <code>find: missing argument to `-exec'</code> .<br />
|-<br />
| -V||SET VERSION NUMBER||Many programs will have a flag to view the version number. This flag changes the version number instead.<br />
|-<br />
| -y||YIKES||[[wiktionary:yikes|yikes]] is an interjection which can express fear or empathy with unpleasant or undesirable circumstances. It is unclear how this would influence the program.<br />
|}<br />
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The bug report site, http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/46644-Hemiptera, isn't a currently active webpage. inaturalist.org is a site working to extend biological research, and http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/47744-Hemiptera does work and points to the same page as http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/Hemiptera. [[wikipedia:Hemiptera]] is the order classifying True Bugs.<br />
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blorp(501)(c)(3) is not a valid chapter reference for a manpage, it is however a slightly covert reference to 501(c)(3) which is an organization that is tax-exempt.<br />
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[Copyright is a mishmash, "or best offer" is humourous, needs better explanation of individual parts.]<br />
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The "copyright" line references several variously open-source content licenses; GPL 2, GPL 3, creative commons, and BSD licenses are mentioned. "LIKE GECKO" is a reference to a web browser user-agent string; modern user-agent strings include a lot of text designed to let the browser pretend to be several different browsers/renderers, and "(like Gecko)" is the standard text for a browser that wants to be treated as if it were Gecko while admitting, if you look closely, that it isn't really Gecko. This copyright line, which includes a lot of mashed-together text that might appear to match any of several different licenses, resembles a user-agent string.<br />
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"OR BEST OFFER" is a reference to an auction where the person who bids the highest gets to buy the item. In context, it suggest the person who has the highest offer for blerp will be sold the rights to the program. Since the other licenses mentioned would allow for free usage without paying royalties, it would usually be pointless to buy the rights to the program.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[A terminal screen; the background is black and the text is white.]<br />
:{| class="wikitable"<br />
|style="background-color:black;"|<font color="white"><br />
;NAME<br />
:blerp<br />
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;SYNOPSIS<br />
:blerp {[ OPTION | ARGS ]...[ ARGS ... -f [FLAGS] ...}<br />
:blerp {... DIRECTORY ... URL | BLERP} OPTIONS ] -{}<br />
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;DESCRIPTION<br />
:blerp FILTERS LOCAL OR REMOTE FILES OR RESOURCES USING PATTERNS DEFINED BY ARGUMENTS AND ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES. THIS BEHAVIOR CAN BE ALTERED BY VARIOUS FLAGS.<br />
<br />
;OPTIONS<br />
:{|<br />
! scope="row" | -a<br />
| ATTACK MODE<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -b<br />
| SUPPRESS BEES<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -—<br />
| FLAGS USE EM DASHES<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -c<br />
| COUNT NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -d<br />
| PIPES OUTPUT TO DEBUG.EXE<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -D<br />
| DEPRECATED<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -e<br />
| EXECUTE SOMETHING<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -f<br />
| FUN MODE<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -g<br />
| USE GOOGLE<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -h<br />
| CHECK WHETHER INPUT HALTS<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -i<br />
| IGNORE CASE (LOWER)<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -I<br />
| IGNORE CASE (UPPER)<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -jk<br />
| KIDDING<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -n<br />
| BEHAVIOR NOT DEFINED<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -o<br />
| OVERWRITE<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -O<br />
| OPPOSITE DAY<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -p<br />
| SET TRUE POPE; ACCEPTS "ROME" OR "AVIGNON"<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -q<br />
| QUIET MODE; OUTPUT IS PRINTED TO STDOUT INSTEAD OF BEING SPOKEN ALOUD<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -r<br />
| RANDOMIZE ARGUMENTS<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -R<br />
| RUN RECURSIVELY ON <nowiki>http://*</nowiki><br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -s<br />
| FOLLOW SYMBOLIC LINKS SYMBOLICALLY<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -S<br />
| STEALTH MODE<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -t<br />
| TUMBLE DRY<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -u<br />
| UTF-8 MODE; OTHERWISE DEFAULTS TO ANSEL<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -U<br />
| UPDATE (DEFAULT: FACEBOOK)<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -v<br />
| VERBOSE; ALIAS TO find / -exec cat {}<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -V<br />
| SET VERSION NUMBER<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | -y<br />
| YIKES<br />
|}<br />
<br />
;SEE ALSO<br />
:blerp(1), blerp(3), blirb(8), blarb(51) blorp(501)(c)(3)<br />
<br />
;BUG REPORTS<br />
:<nowiki>http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/47744-Hemiptera</nowiki><br />
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;COPYRIGHT<br />
:GPL(2)(3+) CC-BY/5.0 RV 41.0 LIKE GECKO/BSD 4(2) OR BEST OFFER<br />
</font><br />
|}<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
[[Category:Programming]]</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1653:_United_States_Map&diff=1144721653: United States Map2016-03-09T05:45:55Z<p>108.162.249.163: </p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1653<br />
| date = March 9, 2016<br />
| title = United States Map<br />
| image = united_states_map.png<br />
| titletext = It would be pretty unfair to give to someone a blank version of this map as a 'how many states can you name?' quiz. (If you include Alaska and Hawaii, you should swap the Aleutian Islands with the Hawaiian ones.)<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
The comic is a map with the outline of the United States of America, but the states have been shuffled around in it. Each state is in a different location, and its outline tessellates in such a way that put together, they recreate the map of the United States (not including Alaska and Hawaii)<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript}}<br />
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{{comic discussion}}</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=191:_Lojban&diff=113893191: Lojban2016-03-04T02:10:36Z<p>108.162.249.163: /* Explanation */ More sensible Lojban translation.</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 191<br />
| date = December 1, 2006<br />
| title = Lojban<br />
| image = lojban.png<br />
| titletext = zo'o ta jitfa .i .e'o xu do pendo mi<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{w|Lojban}} is a constructed language designed to be logical, unambiguous, and culturally neutral — similar to the better known artificial language {{w|Esperanto}}. The authors originally designed it as an experiment, but a few people have picked it up and tried to learn it. However, anyone actually willing to learn Lojban is someone [[Black Hat]] would rather avoid. Alternately, only people who speak Lojban, who comprise an admittedly tiny proportion of the general population, could benefit from the logic of the language, making the benefits of Lojban mostly pointless to most people.<br />
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Clicking on the original comic brings you to [[:File:lojban translated.png|a Lojban translation of the comic]].<br />
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The title text is also written in Lojban. It translates roughly as: "That was a joke. Really. Wanna be friends with me?"<br />
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A more literal translation gives: "humorously that false. Please is-it-true-that you friend me?"<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:;English<br />
:Cueball: If you learned to speak Lojban, your communication would be completely unambiguous and logical.<br />
:Black Hat: Yeah, but it would all be with the kind of people who learn Lojban.<br />
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:;Lojban<br />
:Cueball: da'i ganai do crebi'o la lojban gi le se cusku be do cu mulno pavysmu je logji<br />
:Black Hat: .i .ie ku'i cusku fi le prenu klesi poi certu la lojban<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Black Hat]]<br />
[[Category:Language]]</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1634:_In_Case_of_Emergency&diff=109933Talk:1634: In Case of Emergency2016-01-25T07:22:33Z<p>108.162.249.163: Created page with "Just attempted my first transcript... ~~~~"</p>
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<div>Just attempted my first transcript... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 07:22, 25 January 2016 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1634:_In_Case_of_Emergency&diff=1099321634: In Case of Emergency2016-01-25T07:21:55Z<p>108.162.249.163: /* Transcript */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1634<br />
| date = January 25, 2016<br />
| title = In Case of Emergency<br />
| image = in_case_of_emergency.png<br />
| titletext = I keep first aid kits in those emergency lockers. Sure, it's expensive to have them installed in the wall, but at least for those ones there's no need to pay extra for safety glass.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{Incomplete}}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
[On a box behind a panel of glass, with a hammer hung below the panel]<br />
Glass repair kit<br />
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{{comic discussion}}</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1634:_In_Case_of_Emergency&diff=1099311634: In Case of Emergency2016-01-25T07:21:16Z<p>108.162.249.163: /* Transcript */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1634<br />
| date = January 25, 2016<br />
| title = In Case of Emergency<br />
| image = in_case_of_emergency.png<br />
| titletext = I keep first aid kits in those emergency lockers. Sure, it's expensive to have them installed in the wall, but at least for those ones there's no need to pay extra for safety glass.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{Incomplete}}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
[In a box behind a panel of glass, with a hammer hung below the panel]<br />
Glass repair kit<br />
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{{comic discussion}}</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1605:_DNA&diff=105346Talk:1605: DNA2015-11-20T00:10:54Z<p>108.162.249.163: convergent evolution</p>
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<div>The source for Google.com can be found at `<nowiki>view-source:https://www.google.com/</nowiki>` for Firefox and Chrome. Also [http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u8SMf7G6 here]. —[[User:Artyer|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer|talk]]<big>'''&#124;'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 16:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Should there be a link to the code in the explain. I do not understand these links or the source code, and would not like to place these links in the explanation. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I really like this comic. IMHO, just another good example of intelligent design. Google's dev had to design, plan and carefully code. If that is seemingly simple compared to DNA and biology then how much more intelligence and thought was needed for the coding of all living things?--[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 17:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:With all the stupid things going on in our bodies (rendered useless by natural selection but staying put anyway like the {{w|Appendix (anatomy)|Appendix}} or our {{w|tailbone}}) then it is to me just a clear example that there has been no intelligence behind our genome, but just trial and error, and then 4 billion years to get it right enough that it works but not smart. And don't get me started on how our air and food/drink has to go in the same way with the risk of being (nearly) killed by a pretzel...([http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-94567/I-feel-great-President-Bush-declares-pretzel-incident.html even if you are the president of the US] ;-) That is just plain stupid design. But few enough dies from this, that it was necessary for nature to change it once it was working. Humans and the genes survived long enough to reproduce. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Without an appendix how would our gut immune system develop properly? Without a tail bone how would we stand upright? It's a fallacy to think that just because we don't understand something it must have no purpose. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 00:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Without a pretzel-choaking mechanism, how could we ever hope to weed out less-desirable presidents? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.180.215|162.158.180.215]] 21:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I am sure you are right about intelligent design being involved: clearly DNA's tangled structure is a deliberate nod to a plate of spaghetti, proof indeed that the Flying Spaghetti Monster has had a hand (well, a noodly appendage) in all of creation.<br />
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Apologies, when I saved my comments it blitzed someone else's that must have been being written at the same time :'-( [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:13, 18 November 2015 <br />
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:Yeah it was my two comments above? I have now moved the one right her above back in place from the bottom where Davidy22 had placed it when he tried to fix it. No harms done but as he says: ''Read error messages, I know mediawiki gives them to you''. You can always see in the history what you have changed. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:08, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I, for my part read the edit conflict (with Kynde, 18:43) like a good little boy, re-edited in light of that, resubmitted and... forgot to answer the security question. For completeness I wrote the following. If it's still helpful...<br />
Had the same thought. Although I just use "View | Source" from the menu or right-click and "View Page Source", or whatever that browser tends to want to give me. And, having had that same thought: For reference, in case anybody wants it, the source of the google.co.uk main page (assumed not far off google.com in its nature) is 51 lines. But that's 51 ''long'' lines of mostly javascript, with much of the unnecessary whitespace (including line-feeds) taken out of it, overwhelmingly single-character variable names, over 150 'if' statements (including 'else if' ones, in continuation to a prior one) and perhaps 56 'for' loops, at first glance. Whether 'optimised' or obfuscated, it certainly could be a challenge to fully understand.<br />
:: HTH, HAND [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.161|141.101.106.161]] 21:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::: I don't think that Google's homepage is only optimized. I'm sure part of obfuscation is deliberate. That said, just removing comments and changing variable names is usually enough to make program unreadable. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 13:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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IMHO DNA with its redundant sections for things not currently used and the bodges in biological design are a good example of unintelligent design. For example the blood supply to the retina is between the iris and the retina, so it is in the way. An intelligent designer would do an eye mark II. But this has nothing to do with the comic. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: Sigh. Another of the "I could do a better job" brigade. Go ahead. Try it. Post back here after you learn enough about the existing eye design that you recognise just how incredible it is. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 00:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Eye mark II is used in octopuses: {{w|Cephalopod eye}}. Solves multiple problems of our eyes. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 13:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Cephalopod vs Vertebrate eyes is a classic example of convergent evolution, therefore eye structure proves evolution not intelligent design.<br />
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White Hat is showing the hubris often seen by people who think their (often limited) knowledge in one field can be used as an anology for something very different. Megan only manages to showchim his error by showing that a "simple" web page, which has only been evolving for a few years is more complex than he thinks, and the role of any one line/command in the page is probably far from clear without deep analysis [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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The evolution of life is composed exclusively of copy-paste programming on top of legacy code, global variables, and hacks on hacks on hacks at every level, from telomeres and DNA looping, to the structure of the human hip (childbirth), to our breathing tract, optic nerve, and brain structure and cognition. --[[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.234|199.27.130.234]] 21:47, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: That's what you get when you hack the universe together with perl. {{unsigned|Dsollen}}<br />
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: Or C. Reminds me of a joke going around in the 90s ... http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/dna.en.html [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.38|141.101.98.38]]<br />
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So much for Gattaca then... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 00:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1605:_DNA&diff=105345Talk:1605: DNA2015-11-20T00:05:33Z<p>108.162.249.163: FSM</p>
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<div>The source for Google.com can be found at `<nowiki>view-source:https://www.google.com/</nowiki>` for Firefox and Chrome. Also [http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u8SMf7G6 here]. —[[User:Artyer|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer|talk]]<big>'''&#124;'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 16:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Should there be a link to the code in the explain. I do not understand these links or the source code, and would not like to place these links in the explanation. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I really like this comic. IMHO, just another good example of intelligent design. Google's dev had to design, plan and carefully code. If that is seemingly simple compared to DNA and biology then how much more intelligence and thought was needed for the coding of all living things?--[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 17:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:With all the stupid things going on in our bodies (rendered useless by natural selection but staying put anyway like the {{w|Appendix (anatomy)|Appendix}} or our {{w|tailbone}}) then it is to me just a clear example that there has been no intelligence behind our genome, but just trial and error, and then 4 billion years to get it right enough that it works but not smart. And don't get me started on how our air and food/drink has to go in the same way with the risk of being (nearly) killed by a pretzel...([http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-94567/I-feel-great-President-Bush-declares-pretzel-incident.html even if you are the president of the US] ;-) That is just plain stupid design. But few enough dies from this, that it was necessary for nature to change it once it was working. Humans and the genes survived long enough to reproduce. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Without an appendix how would our gut immune system develop properly? Without a tail bone how would we stand upright? It's a fallacy to think that just because we don't understand something it must have no purpose. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 00:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Without a pretzel-choaking mechanism, how could we ever hope to weed out less-desirable presidents? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.180.215|162.158.180.215]] 21:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I am sure you are right about intelligent design being involved: clearly DNA's tangled structure is a deliberate nod to a plate of spaghetti, proof indeed that the Flying Spaghetti Monster has had a hand (well, a noodly appendage) in all of creation.<br />
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Apologies, when I saved my comments it blitzed someone else's that must have been being written at the same time :'-( [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:13, 18 November 2015 <br />
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:Yeah it was my two comments above? I have now moved the one right her above back in place from the bottom where Davidy22 had placed it when he tried to fix it. No harms done but as he says: ''Read error messages, I know mediawiki gives them to you''. You can always see in the history what you have changed. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:08, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I, for my part read the edit conflict (with Kynde, 18:43) like a good little boy, re-edited in light of that, resubmitted and... forgot to answer the security question. For completeness I wrote the following. If it's still helpful...<br />
Had the same thought. Although I just use "View | Source" from the menu or right-click and "View Page Source", or whatever that browser tends to want to give me. And, having had that same thought: For reference, in case anybody wants it, the source of the google.co.uk main page (assumed not far off google.com in its nature) is 51 lines. But that's 51 ''long'' lines of mostly javascript, with much of the unnecessary whitespace (including line-feeds) taken out of it, overwhelmingly single-character variable names, over 150 'if' statements (including 'else if' ones, in continuation to a prior one) and perhaps 56 'for' loops, at first glance. Whether 'optimised' or obfuscated, it certainly could be a challenge to fully understand.<br />
:: HTH, HAND [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.161|141.101.106.161]] 21:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::: I don't think that Google's homepage is only optimized. I'm sure part of obfuscation is deliberate. That said, just removing comments and changing variable names is usually enough to make program unreadable. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 13:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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IMHO DNA with its redundant sections for things not currently used and the bodges in biological design are a good example of unintelligent design. For example the blood supply to the retina is between the iris and the retina, so it is in the way. An intelligent designer would do an eye mark II. But this has nothing to do with the comic. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: Sigh. Another of the "I could do a better job" brigade. Go ahead. Try it. Post back here after you learn enough about the existing eye design that you recognise just how incredible it is. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 00:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Eye mark II is used in octopuses: {{w|Cephalopod eye}}. Solves multiple problems of our eyes. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 13:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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White Hat is showing the hubris often seen by people who think their (often limited) knowledge in one field can be used as an anology for something very different. Megan only manages to showchim his error by showing that a "simple" web page, which has only been evolving for a few years is more complex than he thinks, and the role of any one line/command in the page is probably far from clear without deep analysis [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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The evolution of life is composed exclusively of copy-paste programming on top of legacy code, global variables, and hacks on hacks on hacks at every level, from telomeres and DNA looping, to the structure of the human hip (childbirth), to our breathing tract, optic nerve, and brain structure and cognition. --[[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.234|199.27.130.234]] 21:47, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: That's what you get when you hack the universe together with perl. {{unsigned|Dsollen}}<br />
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: Or C. Reminds me of a joke going around in the 90s ... http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/dna.en.html [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.38|141.101.98.38]]<br />
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So much for Gattaca then... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 00:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1605:_DNA&diff=105344Talk:1605: DNA2015-11-20T00:00:43Z<p>108.162.249.163: Gattaca</p>
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<div>The source for Google.com can be found at `<nowiki>view-source:https://www.google.com/</nowiki>` for Firefox and Chrome. Also [http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u8SMf7G6 here]. —[[User:Artyer|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer|talk]]<big>'''&#124;'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 16:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Should there be a link to the code in the explain. I do not understand these links or the source code, and would not like to place these links in the explanation. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I really like this comic. IMHO, just another good example of intelligent design. Google's dev had to design, plan and carefully code. If that is seemingly simple compared to DNA and biology then how much more intelligence and thought was needed for the coding of all living things?--[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 17:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:With all the stupid things going on in our bodies (rendered useless by natural selection but staying put anyway like the {{w|Appendix (anatomy)|Appendix}} or our {{w|tailbone}}) then it is to me just a clear example that there has been no intelligence behind our genome, but just trial and error, and then 4 billion years to get it right enough that it works but not smart. And don't get me started on how our air and food/drink has to go in the same way with the risk of being (nearly) killed by a pretzel...([http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-94567/I-feel-great-President-Bush-declares-pretzel-incident.html even if you are the president of the US] ;-) That is just plain stupid design. But few enough dies from this, that it was necessary for nature to change it once it was working. Humans and the genes survived long enough to reproduce. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Without an appendix how would our gut immune system develop properly? Without a tail bone how would we stand upright? It's a fallacy to think that just because we don't understand something it must have no purpose. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 00:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Without a pretzel-choaking mechanism, how could we ever hope to weed out less-desirable presidents? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.180.215|162.158.180.215]] 21:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Apologies, when I saved my comments it blitzed someone else's that must have been being written at the same time :'-( [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:13, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah it was my two comments above? I have now moved the one right her above back in place from the bottom where Davidy22 had placed it when he tried to fix it. No harms done but as he says: ''Read error messages, I know mediawiki gives them to you''. You can always see in the history what you have changed. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:08, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I, for my part read the edit conflict (with Kynde, 18:43) like a good little boy, re-edited in light of that, resubmitted and... forgot to answer the security question. For completeness I wrote the following. If it's still helpful...<br />
Had the same thought. Although I just use "View | Source" from the menu or right-click and "View Page Source", or whatever that browser tends to want to give me. And, having had that same thought: For reference, in case anybody wants it, the source of the google.co.uk main page (assumed not far off google.com in its nature) is 51 lines. But that's 51 ''long'' lines of mostly javascript, with much of the unnecessary whitespace (including line-feeds) taken out of it, overwhelmingly single-character variable names, over 150 'if' statements (including 'else if' ones, in continuation to a prior one) and perhaps 56 'for' loops, at first glance. Whether 'optimised' or obfuscated, it certainly could be a challenge to fully understand.<br />
:: HTH, HAND [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.161|141.101.106.161]] 21:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::: I don't think that Google's homepage is only optimized. I'm sure part of obfuscation is deliberate. That said, just removing comments and changing variable names is usually enough to make program unreadable. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 13:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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IMHO DNA with its redundant sections for things not currently used and the bodges in biological design are a good example of unintelligent design. For example the blood supply to the retina is between the iris and the retina, so it is in the way. An intelligent designer would do an eye mark II. But this has nothing to do with the comic. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: Sigh. Another of the "I could do a better job" brigade. Go ahead. Try it. Post back here after you learn enough about the existing eye design that you recognise just how incredible it is. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.32|198.41.238.32]] 00:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Eye mark II is used in octopuses: {{w|Cephalopod eye}}. Solves multiple problems of our eyes. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 13:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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White Hat is showing the hubris often seen by people who think their (often limited) knowledge in one field can be used as an anology for something very different. Megan only manages to showchim his error by showing that a "simple" web page, which has only been evolving for a few years is more complex than he thinks, and the role of any one line/command in the page is probably far from clear without deep analysis [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 19:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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The evolution of life is composed exclusively of copy-paste programming on top of legacy code, global variables, and hacks on hacks on hacks at every level, from telomeres and DNA looping, to the structure of the human hip (childbirth), to our breathing tract, optic nerve, and brain structure and cognition. --[[Special:Contributions/199.27.130.234|199.27.130.234]] 21:47, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: That's what you get when you hack the universe together with perl. {{unsigned|Dsollen}}<br />
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: Or C. Reminds me of a joke going around in the 90s ... http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/dna.en.html [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.38|141.101.98.38]]<br />
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So much for Gattaca then... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 00:00, 20 November 2015 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1598:_Salvage&diff=104411Talk:1598: Salvage2015-11-02T22:24:53Z<p>108.162.249.163: silica gel vs rice</p>
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<div>as randall points out, the whole rice thing is a myth. either there isn't water inside your phone, in which case it's going to work anyway, or there is and the rice will only get the moisture off the outside and it won't. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.8|108.162.216.8]] 13:40, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Ahah! I just inserted something along those lines. (Also, the Wiki's server clock looks to be fast.) While I didn't go into it myself, the biggest problem is water pooling in the casing and being held by surface-tension between two planes (e.g. circuit board and plastic frame). It's possible that absorbing rice (or other substance) in concact with the vents could draw water (or other liquids!) through the vents, like a wick, even from further inside, but I'd normally dismantle a device as much as I'd dare (certainly not beyond the point that I'd obviously break it ''more'') and leach off the liquid directly with appropriate material.<br />
:A careful dab/wipe wash in distilled water (or suitable non-water cleaning liquids) is sometims also necessary for long-standing residues (e.g. of coffee that went into laptop keyboards), but the absolute main thing is to turn off a device ''as soon as possible'' after a soaking, including removing batteries, so that you've not already pre-ruined anything delicate by a spurious back-voltage.<br />
:But don't take my word as definitive, because it depends on the device, the degree of soaking and what it's soaked with and the rice might work sufficiently or nothing might... Go seek a professional, if you're not just feeling lucky. (Luck''ier'' than when you got it wet, anyway. ;) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.64.233|141.101.64.233]] 14:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::And if it was salt water it got soaked in... well, good luck there. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 16:06, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I used to have a digital clock that stopped when it got wet, and didn't start again until it dried out, 11.5 hours later.<br>The weird thing was that it was ''always'' 11.5 hours - I checked (to within a few dozen minutes) at least four separate times. To this day I have no idea why. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.81.78|141.101.81.78]] 13:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:More mysterious than the precise timing of your digital clock's resurrection is what you were doing to get it wet so often. :) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.210|162.158.90.210]] 14:00, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Also saying always 11.5 hours when you also says that it is to within 1 hour is not so precise. The one hour comes from the fact that [[1070: Words for Small Sets |a few means 2-5]], and 5 x 12 minutes = 1 hour ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::It was the sort of clock that is worn on hands (I think that type of clock is also called "watch"), so washing hands the wrong way could do it.<br>And yes, I know of the weird precision - the whole thing happened about 15 years ago, and while I distinctly remember the weirdly precise figure, I cannot remember any measurement of it more precise than "a few dozen minutes" :-) --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.81.78|141.101.81.78]] 15:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Could here be an additional joke from the old movie {{w|Raise the Titanic (film)}}?I'm not sure how this will be pronounced in different part of the English world, but could it be pronounced just like '''''Rice''' the Titanic''? That would be a joke where you do not need he title text to get it... (Which is usually the case - the title text often just adds and extra layer to the joke). --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:14, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:That's impossible. ''Rice'' is /raɪs/ and ''raise'' is /reɪz/. Too many differences. An English speaker who hears ''rice'' when ''raise'' was pronounced is like another who hears ''chip'' when ''sheep'' was pronounced. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.17|108.162.221.17]] 14:32, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::There are so many weird English dialects. There's probably one in England (or more) where they say raise like Americans say rice. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.236.241|108.162.236.241]] 15:52, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Not 'English', and not that way round, but I can think of an Ulster (Northern Ireland) pronunciation where "rice" rather like Americans "raise". (But then "raise", itself, also suffers from vowel-shifts/etc.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.64.233|141.101.64.233]] 18:35, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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If you Google "rice cell phone" there is quite a bit of information, such as https://www.gazelle.com/thehorn/2014/05/06/gazelles-guide-water-damage-truth-rice-galaxy-everything/. Not sure what belongs in this article. [[User:Matchups|Matchups]] ([[User talk:Matchups|talk]]) 14:24, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Is this the first strip to use "my hobby" in the title-text rather than the actual comic? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.52|173.245.54.52]] 14:29, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Nope, there's also [[1480: Super Bowl]]. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.39.207|162.158.39.207]] 15:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah, the way to fix a wet phone, is just to remove the battery and let it dry out, once the battery is out you can even rince it in case what you got all over it wasn't just water.. Oh you can't remove the battery, you say? Well, then you are truly fucked.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.114.222|162.158.114.222]] 15:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I always thought that the rice myth came from people who misunderstood, mis-told or heard but forgot the joke affirmation that "If you put your broken phone in rice overnight, chinese workers will be attracted and repair it". The joke could be from the myth, but I wouldn't be so sure. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.239|141.101.66.239]] 16:04, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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In case anyone needs anything more about it, the first reference to drying-with-rice that I thought of was [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2312764/synopsis the pilot episode] of CBS's Sherlock Holmes show 'Elementary. I forget if this version of Sherlock thinks it's a valid idea (but he at least knows that the phone's owner thought it so...) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.64.233|141.101.64.233]] 16:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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;RMS Titanic name<br />
While RMS Titanic was a Royal Mail Ship, and as such had RMS as part of its title, I don't think RMS Titanic had the inscription RMS. It was just Titanic. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic#/media/File:RMS_Titanic_3.jpg [[Special:Contributions/141.101.80.87|141.101.80.87]] 14:31, 2 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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If rice actually worked well as a drying agent it would be used in "Do Not Eat" packets (presumably they'd be labelled differently because rice is edible) instead of silica gel, because rice is cheaper and more readily available than silica gel. The fact that they've gone to the trouble and expense of using silica gel is all the proof I need that silica gel works better than rice. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 22:24, 2 November 2015 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1597:_Git&diff=104318Talk:1597: Git2015-11-01T23:52:12Z<p>108.162.249.163: signing</p>
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<div>If someone is interested, the best book I've read on it is [http://www.git-scm.com/book/en/v2 Pro Git]. The chapters 2 and 3 explain pretty well this mess of branching and merging. But it's true that it takes a bit of patience to go over it all. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.228.35|108.162.228.35]] 08:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Also take a look at [http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ GitFlow: A Successful Git Branching Model]. Though Randall is correct there usually comes a time when it is easier to give up and "start again". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.147|162.158.34.147]] 08:53, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I never liked the name of this piece of software; in British English, the name "git" is mildly rude :-) <br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(slang) . [[User:Gearoid|Gearóid]] ([[User talk:Gearoid|talk]]) 09:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:According to word of god it was on purpose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)#History [[Special:Contributions/162.158.22.46|162.158.22.46]] 11:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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'Internally, Git works by saving the differences between various versions of the files, rather than creating a new copy each time the user "commits" the current version of the code.' - It is exactly the opposite. It stores whole files, or rather all committed pieces of data (blobs). See http://gitready.com/beginner/2009/02/17/how-git-stores-your-data.html [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.202|141.101.88.202]] 09:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)TK<br />
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: It is stored as diffs in pack file. Whole file (loose object) are packed automatically by default. <br />
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[[Special:Contributions/162.158.177.59|162.158.177.59]] 10:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Not sure what pack files are used for, but data is stored as is and named by the SHA-1 of its contents. See [https://schacon.github.io/gitbook/1_the_git_object_model.html object model] in the same reference. [[User:Walenc|Walenc]] ([[User talk:Walenc|talk]]) 16:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like this article should end with a quick guide to git commands. {{unsigned ip|108.162.216.27}}<br />
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Well, I feel this article focuses on explaning git too much that it loses the point of the joke. We have Wikipedia to refer readers to ... The thing is, not just users who are unable to use git beyond a few basic commands, but also those who understand git often use some sort of "start over" method because an action looking perfectly legit got the repository into unusable state, where recovery is much more difficult than reapplying patches. For one of the most common, search for "detached head", for example - especially funny when git insists on falling into that state after checking out master which is in direct contradiction to what docs say when it happens. But I don't feel like rewriting that, sorry :-/ --kavol, [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.206|141.101.96.206]] 16:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I feel you've all been nerd-sniped. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.8|108.162.216.8]] 19:33, 30 October 2015 (UTC)Pat<br />
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The problem is not about the working copy and about the branching tree structure and some git internals that is quite confusing.<br />
This 4 years old reddit post can be used as a funny reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/embdf/git_complicated_of_course_not_commits_map_to/<br />
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http://tartley.com/?p=1267<br />
"One of the things that tripped me up as a novice user was the way Git handles branches. Unlike more primitive version control systems, git repositories are not linear, they support branching, and are thus best visualised as trees, upon the nodes of which your current commit may add new leaf nodes. To visualise this, it’s simplest to think of the state of your repository as a point in a high-dimensional ‘code-space’, in which branches are represented as n-dimensional membranes, mapping the spatial loci of successive commits onto the projected manifold of each cloned repository." {{unsigned ip|108.162.210.212}}<br />
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Should someone mention how git is by default used through a terminal - which is often more confusing than a GUI for most people - and that while there are graphical shells for git, some people refuse to use them because they're not fully-featured? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.36|108.162.221.36]] 11:43, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Shit. I use git for almost a year and I delete my repos more often than I'd like to admit. I'm going to read [https://www.git-scm.com/book/en/v2] and (hopefully) fix this once and for all. [[User:Kripmo|Kripmo]] ([[User talk:Kripmo|talk]]) 02:04, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:It was way easier than I thought. This is what I needed: git reset --hard <commit before fuck up>. Its alias will be fu. [[User:Kripmo|Kripmo]] ([[User talk:Kripmo|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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The really sad part of all this is that if you work in a multi-dev environment and <i>anyone</i> on the team is doing what Cueball suggests, it negates every other user's ability to use the main trunk properly. [[User:Ericm301|Ericm301]] ([[User talk:Ericm301|talk]]) 02:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Hasn't it got too extensive about git? I've never used git but quite understood the comedy. I just visited this page to know about git.txt and there's nothing about it but just long text that doesn't help whatsoever to understand the comic. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.84.125|141.101.84.125]] 08:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I agree completely! I've stripped out the overlong discussion of git's features. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 00:12, 1 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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AFAIK, the git.txt is not the part of the Git itself. I just added it to explanation. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.114.231|162.158.114.231]] 20:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:"This comic is a play on how git, a popular version control system, is misused by people who have a very poor understanding of its inner workings."<br />
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Comically missing the point. That is NOT what the comic is about, that is a poor excuse from a fanboy. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.159|162.158.90.159]] 12:00, 1 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: I agree the verbose "explanation" misses the point. The reality is that git is a confusing mess from a user's point of view. It's a very nice and powerful design from a technical point of view yet one that will mostly confuse anyone who encounters it at first; most people are afraid of admitting it because they don't want to look dumb. There's beauty in a design that is user-friendly at its core, and git misses that mark. [[User:Ralfoide|Ralfoide]] ([[User talk:Ralfoide|talk]]) 17:38, 1 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: The same can be said of Linux. It seems to be a common theme in Linus Torvalds' work. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 23:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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In pretty much every team I've worked I found there ends up being one "git expert" that raises above the rest and people continuously go see that person with "I don't know how to do X", to which the expert will often reply with a magic unheard-of-before git command line that looks pretty much like perl line noise. [[User:Ralfoide|Ralfoide]] ([[User talk:Ralfoide|talk]]) 17:38, 1 November 2015 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1597:_Git&diff=104317Talk:1597: Git2015-11-01T23:51:29Z<p>108.162.249.163: Linux user friendliness (or lack thereof).</p>
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<div>If someone is interested, the best book I've read on it is [http://www.git-scm.com/book/en/v2 Pro Git]. The chapters 2 and 3 explain pretty well this mess of branching and merging. But it's true that it takes a bit of patience to go over it all. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.228.35|108.162.228.35]] 08:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Also take a look at [http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ GitFlow: A Successful Git Branching Model]. Though Randall is correct there usually comes a time when it is easier to give up and "start again". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.147|162.158.34.147]] 08:53, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I never liked the name of this piece of software; in British English, the name "git" is mildly rude :-) <br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(slang) . [[User:Gearoid|Gearóid]] ([[User talk:Gearoid|talk]]) 09:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:According to word of god it was on purpose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)#History [[Special:Contributions/162.158.22.46|162.158.22.46]] 11:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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'Internally, Git works by saving the differences between various versions of the files, rather than creating a new copy each time the user "commits" the current version of the code.' - It is exactly the opposite. It stores whole files, or rather all committed pieces of data (blobs). See http://gitready.com/beginner/2009/02/17/how-git-stores-your-data.html [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.202|141.101.88.202]] 09:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)TK<br />
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: It is stored as diffs in pack file. Whole file (loose object) are packed automatically by default. <br />
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: See https://schacon.github.io/gitbook/7_the_packfile.html and https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-pack-objects.html <br />
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[[Special:Contributions/162.158.177.59|162.158.177.59]] 10:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Not sure what pack files are used for, but data is stored as is and named by the SHA-1 of its contents. See [https://schacon.github.io/gitbook/1_the_git_object_model.html object model] in the same reference. [[User:Walenc|Walenc]] ([[User talk:Walenc|talk]]) 16:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like this article should end with a quick guide to git commands. {{unsigned ip|108.162.216.27}}<br />
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Well, I feel this article focuses on explaning git too much that it loses the point of the joke. We have Wikipedia to refer readers to ... The thing is, not just users who are unable to use git beyond a few basic commands, but also those who understand git often use some sort of "start over" method because an action looking perfectly legit got the repository into unusable state, where recovery is much more difficult than reapplying patches. For one of the most common, search for "detached head", for example - especially funny when git insists on falling into that state after checking out master which is in direct contradiction to what docs say when it happens. But I don't feel like rewriting that, sorry :-/ --kavol, [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.206|141.101.96.206]] 16:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I feel you've all been nerd-sniped. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.8|108.162.216.8]] 19:33, 30 October 2015 (UTC)Pat<br />
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The problem is not about the working copy and about the branching tree structure and some git internals that is quite confusing.<br />
This 4 years old reddit post can be used as a funny reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/embdf/git_complicated_of_course_not_commits_map_to/<br />
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http://tartley.com/?p=1267<br />
"One of the things that tripped me up as a novice user was the way Git handles branches. Unlike more primitive version control systems, git repositories are not linear, they support branching, and are thus best visualised as trees, upon the nodes of which your current commit may add new leaf nodes. To visualise this, it’s simplest to think of the state of your repository as a point in a high-dimensional ‘code-space’, in which branches are represented as n-dimensional membranes, mapping the spatial loci of successive commits onto the projected manifold of each cloned repository." {{unsigned ip|108.162.210.212}}<br />
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Should someone mention how git is by default used through a terminal - which is often more confusing than a GUI for most people - and that while there are graphical shells for git, some people refuse to use them because they're not fully-featured? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.36|108.162.221.36]] 11:43, 30 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Shit. I use git for almost a year and I delete my repos more often than I'd like to admit. I'm going to read [https://www.git-scm.com/book/en/v2] and (hopefully) fix this once and for all. [[User:Kripmo|Kripmo]] ([[User talk:Kripmo|talk]]) 02:04, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:It was way easier than I thought. This is what I needed: git reset --hard <commit before fuck up>. Its alias will be fu. [[User:Kripmo|Kripmo]] ([[User talk:Kripmo|talk]]) 08:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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The really sad part of all this is that if you work in a multi-dev environment and <i>anyone</i> on the team is doing what Cueball suggests, it negates every other user's ability to use the main trunk properly. [[User:Ericm301|Ericm301]] ([[User talk:Ericm301|talk]]) 02:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Hasn't it got too extensive about git? I've never used git but quite understood the comedy. I just visited this page to know about git.txt and there's nothing about it but just long text that doesn't help whatsoever to understand the comic. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.84.125|141.101.84.125]] 08:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I agree completely! I've stripped out the overlong discussion of git's features. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 00:12, 1 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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AFAIK, the git.txt is not the part of the Git itself. I just added it to explanation. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.114.231|162.158.114.231]] 20:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:"This comic is a play on how git, a popular version control system, is misused by people who have a very poor understanding of its inner workings."<br />
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Comically missing the point. That is NOT what the comic is about, that is a poor excuse from a fanboy. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.159|162.158.90.159]] 12:00, 1 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: I agree the verbose "explanation" misses the point. The reality is that git is a confusing mess from a user's point of view. It's a very nice and powerful design from a technical point of view yet one that will mostly confuse anyone who encounters it at first; most people are afraid of admitting it because they don't want to look dumb. There's beauty in a design that is user-friendly at its core, and git misses that mark. [[User:Ralfoide|Ralfoide]] ([[User talk:Ralfoide|talk]]) 17:38, 1 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
: The same can be said of Linux. It seems to be a common theme in Linus Torvalds' work.<br />
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In pretty much every team I've worked I found there ends up being one "git expert" that raises above the rest and people continuously go see that person with "I don't know how to do X", to which the expert will often reply with a magic unheard-of-before git command line that looks pretty much like perl line noise. [[User:Ralfoide|Ralfoide]] ([[User talk:Ralfoide|talk]]) 17:38, 1 November 2015 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1595:_30_Days_Hath_September&diff=104046Talk:1595: 30 Days Hath September2015-10-27T23:30:19Z<p>108.162.249.163: mouseover trick explanation</p>
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<div>THIS RHYME IS TERRIBLE. You can slot the months into it in nearly any order and it will still scan. The knuckle trick is far superior. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_days_hath_September#Knuckle_Mnemonic<br />
[[User:CLAVDIVS|CLAVDIVS]] ([[User talk:CLAVDIVS|talk]]) 06:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I use the knuckle trick too. And I am Dutch, so not only the "German, French, Swiss, Romanians and Belgians" use that trick. I count from the index finger and reverse on the little finger for July and August. Might not be representative for all Dutch, I've heard the rhyme too. (suitably translated) -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.196|141.101.104.196]] 09:36, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:From Jan to Jul(1~7) its odd numbers 31 days, while from Aug to Dec(8~12) its even numbers 31. Feb is 28 or 29. Much shorter. - MythSearcher {{unsigned ip|162.158.176.35}}<br />
::Or (in other words) subtract 7 if number of month is above 7. Then odd always means 31 and even 30 or February. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.159|162.158.91.159]] 07:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:As above, except that I use Hallowe'en and New Year as checks! {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.61}}<br />
:I come from the UK. I have never heard the rhyme and everyone I know uses the knuckle trick. Though London is not exactly representative of the whole country... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.165|162.158.90.165]] 09:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I've been taught the knuckle mnemonic as a child; it went index finger to little finger, then to other hand starting from index finger again. Incidentally, I'm Russian (as opposed to German, French, Swiss, Romanian, Belgian, or Dutch). --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.81.77|141.101.81.77]] 10:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
Datum point: British, was taught the rhyme ('alone'-rhyming version) when young but then learnt the (apparently widespread) 'knuckle-trick' from I-don't-know-where. Little-finger knuckle is January, index-finger knuckle is July, then right-hand in reverse, for me, until out of months... So I tend to use the latter more, now. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.39.224|162.158.39.224]] 17:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I always heard "30 days hath september, april june and november, all the rest have 31, except february alone. And that has 28 days clear, with 29 in each leap year." <br />
How do people remember it if it doesn't rhyme?- madness! {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.218}}<br />
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:No no no, its "30 days hath November, August, March and December..." --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 11:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Pudder, No no no no no no, March and August and December have 31 days! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 23:30, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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In Spain both rhyme and knuckle are well-known, and usually taught to children (the rhyme suitably [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendario_gregoriano#Duraci.C3.B3n_del_a.C3.B1o_gregoriano translated], of course). For some reason, I've always found it easier to just remember the number of days by memory than resorting to any mnemonic trick. I tend to use the known numbers to check if I remember the mnemonic correctly, and not vice versa. Also, it's usual to see people wondering which number corresponds to which month (e.g. October is month 10), which I also remember no problem since I have memory. [[User:Jojonete|Jojonete]] ([[User talk:Jojonete|talk]]) 12:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Of course if we hadn't moved the start of the year from March to January, September, October, November and December would make much more sense as months 7, 8, 9 and 10! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.204|162.158.34.204]] 15:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I'm from Denmark and here I have heard of the knuckle method, but we do not have a rhyme that is so well know that I have heard of it (but I'm sure someone has.) But as the Jojonete wrote I also just know which month have how many days by memory etc. But I have told my six year old daughter about the knuckle method. I think it is great that it works. And everyone knows that February is the one with 28 days, so that is not the difficult part to remember... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I tried the mouseover text trick and got "7" for October. Someone help! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.119|162.158.255.119]] 17:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:You are very funny. The mouseover text trick works great when your app is set to "month" view, but fails if set to "week" view. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 23:30, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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October of all months seems like a pretty easy one to keep track of, simply because October 31st is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween pretty popular holiday.] [[Special:Contributions/108.162.220.11|108.162.220.11]] 18:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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;brain adaptation ridicule…celebration<br />
[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 09:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC) me thinks that while the absurdity of these life hacks has been explained well the deeper issue might yet be missed here: the cultural shift from relying on mental recall and concentration to adapting your brain to rely on technology more than before, reduced attention span and reduced factual memory (better childhood telephone number recall than children's mobile numbers recall) and optimized lookup routines {{unsigned ip|141.101.66.5}}<br />
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<big>digital amnesia!</big> --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:02, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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http://www.bbc.com/news/education-34454264 --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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+ http://www.business2community.com/brandviews/wyzowl/its-official-we-have-shorter-attention-spans-than-goldfish-infographic-01353885#w1RCPWdWy1LoDlvI.97 --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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My uncle had a nonsense rhyme based on this:<br /><br />
Thirty days hath September,<br /><br />
April, June, and no wonder<br /><br />
All the rest ate peanut butter,<br /><br />
Except Grandma, who rode a tricycle<br /><br />
about this color. (holds hand 3 feet above ground)<br /><br />
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.26|108.162.216.26]] 13:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Yay! I came here specifically to post this version, but was beaten to it. It's from the Napolean XIV album from 1966: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvABMymQz_k</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1595:_30_Days_Hath_September&diff=104045Talk:1595: 30 Days Hath September2015-10-27T23:25:22Z<p>108.162.249.163: fixed error</p>
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<div>THIS RHYME IS TERRIBLE. You can slot the months into it in nearly any order and it will still scan. The knuckle trick is far superior. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_days_hath_September#Knuckle_Mnemonic<br />
[[User:CLAVDIVS|CLAVDIVS]] ([[User talk:CLAVDIVS|talk]]) 06:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I use the knuckle trick too. And I am Dutch, so not only the "German, French, Swiss, Romanians and Belgians" use that trick. I count from the index finger and reverse on the little finger for July and August. Might not be representative for all Dutch, I've heard the rhyme too. (suitably translated) -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.196|141.101.104.196]] 09:36, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:From Jan to Jul(1~7) its odd numbers 31 days, while from Aug to Dec(8~12) its even numbers 31. Feb is 28 or 29. Much shorter. - MythSearcher {{unsigned ip|162.158.176.35}}<br />
::Or (in other words) subtract 7 if number of month is above 7. Then odd always means 31 and even 30 or February. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.159|162.158.91.159]] 07:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:As above, except that I use Hallowe'en and New Year as checks! {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.61}}<br />
:I come from the UK. I have never heard the rhyme and everyone I know uses the knuckle trick. Though London is not exactly representative of the whole country... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.165|162.158.90.165]] 09:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I've been taught the knuckle mnemonic as a child; it went index finger to little finger, then to other hand starting from index finger again. Incidentally, I'm Russian (as opposed to German, French, Swiss, Romanian, Belgian, or Dutch). --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.81.77|141.101.81.77]] 10:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
Datum point: British, was taught the rhyme ('alone'-rhyming version) when young but then learnt the (apparently widespread) 'knuckle-trick' from I-don't-know-where. Little-finger knuckle is January, index-finger knuckle is July, then right-hand in reverse, for me, until out of months... So I tend to use the latter more, now. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.39.224|162.158.39.224]] 17:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I always heard "30 days hath september, april june and november, all the rest have 31, except february alone. And that has 28 days clear, with 29 in each leap year." <br />
How do people remember it if it doesn't rhyme?- madness! {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.218}}<br />
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:No no no, its "30 days hath November, August, March and December..." --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 11:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Pudder, No no no no no no, March and August and December have 31 days!<br />
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In Spain both rhyme and knuckle are well-known, and usually taught to children (the rhyme suitably [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendario_gregoriano#Duraci.C3.B3n_del_a.C3.B1o_gregoriano translated], of course). For some reason, I've always found it easier to just remember the number of days by memory than resorting to any mnemonic trick. I tend to use the known numbers to check if I remember the mnemonic correctly, and not vice versa. Also, it's usual to see people wondering which number corresponds to which month (e.g. October is month 10), which I also remember no problem since I have memory. [[User:Jojonete|Jojonete]] ([[User talk:Jojonete|talk]]) 12:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Of course if we hadn't moved the start of the year from March to January, September, October, November and December would make much more sense as months 7, 8, 9 and 10! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.204|162.158.34.204]] 15:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I'm from Denmark and here I have heard of the knuckle method, but we do not have a rhyme that is so well know that I have heard of it (but I'm sure someone has.) But as the Jojonete wrote I also just know which month have how many days by memory etc. But I have told my six year old daughter about the knuckle method. I think it is great that it works. And everyone knows that February is the one with 28 days, so that is not the difficult part to remember... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I tried the mouseover text trick and got "7" for October. Someone help! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.119|162.158.255.119]] 17:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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October of all months seems like a pretty easy one to keep track of, simply because October 31st is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween pretty popular holiday.] [[Special:Contributions/108.162.220.11|108.162.220.11]] 18:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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;brain adaptation ridicule…celebration<br />
[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 09:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC) me thinks that while the absurdity of these life hacks has been explained well the deeper issue might yet be missed here: the cultural shift from relying on mental recall and concentration to adapting your brain to rely on technology more than before, reduced attention span and reduced factual memory (better childhood telephone number recall than children's mobile numbers recall) and optimized lookup routines {{unsigned ip|141.101.66.5}}<br />
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<big>digital amnesia!</big> --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:02, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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http://www.bbc.com/news/education-34454264 --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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+ http://www.business2community.com/brandviews/wyzowl/its-official-we-have-shorter-attention-spans-than-goldfish-infographic-01353885#w1RCPWdWy1LoDlvI.97 --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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My uncle had a nonsense rhyme based on this:<br /><br />
Thirty days hath September,<br /><br />
April, June, and no wonder<br /><br />
All the rest ate peanut butter,<br /><br />
Except Grandma, who rode a tricycle<br /><br />
about this color. (holds hand 3 feet above ground)<br /><br />
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.26|108.162.216.26]] 13:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Yay! I came here specifically to post this version, but was beaten to it. It's from the Napolean XIV album from 1966: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvABMymQz_k</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1595:_30_Days_Hath_September&diff=104044Talk:1595: 30 Days Hath September2015-10-27T23:24:18Z<p>108.162.249.163: pointing out someone's rhyme mistake</p>
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<div>THIS RHYME IS TERRIBLE. You can slot the months into it in nearly any order and it will still scan. The knuckle trick is far superior. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_days_hath_September#Knuckle_Mnemonic<br />
[[User:CLAVDIVS|CLAVDIVS]] ([[User talk:CLAVDIVS|talk]]) 06:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I use the knuckle trick too. And I am Dutch, so not only the "German, French, Swiss, Romanians and Belgians" use that trick. I count from the index finger and reverse on the little finger for July and August. Might not be representative for all Dutch, I've heard the rhyme too. (suitably translated) -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.196|141.101.104.196]] 09:36, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:From Jan to Jul(1~7) its odd numbers 31 days, while from Aug to Dec(8~12) its even numbers 31. Feb is 28 or 29. Much shorter. - MythSearcher {{unsigned ip|162.158.176.35}}<br />
::Or (in other words) subtract 7 if number of month is above 7. Then odd always means 31 and even 30 or February. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.159|162.158.91.159]] 07:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:As above, except that I use Hallowe'en and New Year as checks! {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.61}}<br />
:I come from the UK. I have never heard the rhyme and everyone I know uses the knuckle trick. Though London is not exactly representative of the whole country... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.165|162.158.90.165]] 09:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I've been taught the knuckle mnemonic as a child; it went index finger to little finger, then to other hand starting from index finger again. Incidentally, I'm Russian (as opposed to German, French, Swiss, Romanian, Belgian, or Dutch). --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.81.77|141.101.81.77]] 10:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
Datum point: British, was taught the rhyme ('alone'-rhyming version) when young but then learnt the (apparently widespread) 'knuckle-trick' from I-don't-know-where. Little-finger knuckle is January, index-finger knuckle is July, then right-hand in reverse, for me, until out of months... So I tend to use the latter more, now. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.39.224|162.158.39.224]] 17:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I always heard "30 days hath september, april june and november, all the rest have 31, except february alone. And that has 28 days clear, with 29 in each leap year." <br />
How do people remember it if it doesn't rhyme?- madness! {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.218}}<br />
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:No no no, its "30 days hath November, August, March and December..." --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 11:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Pudder, No no no no no no, March and December have 31 days!<br />
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In Spain both rhyme and knuckle are well-known, and usually taught to children (the rhyme suitably [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendario_gregoriano#Duraci.C3.B3n_del_a.C3.B1o_gregoriano translated], of course). For some reason, I've always found it easier to just remember the number of days by memory than resorting to any mnemonic trick. I tend to use the known numbers to check if I remember the mnemonic correctly, and not vice versa. Also, it's usual to see people wondering which number corresponds to which month (e.g. October is month 10), which I also remember no problem since I have memory. [[User:Jojonete|Jojonete]] ([[User talk:Jojonete|talk]]) 12:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Of course if we hadn't moved the start of the year from March to January, September, October, November and December would make much more sense as months 7, 8, 9 and 10! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.204|162.158.34.204]] 15:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I'm from Denmark and here I have heard of the knuckle method, but we do not have a rhyme that is so well know that I have heard of it (but I'm sure someone has.) But as the Jojonete wrote I also just know which month have how many days by memory etc. But I have told my six year old daughter about the knuckle method. I think it is great that it works. And everyone knows that February is the one with 28 days, so that is not the difficult part to remember... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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I tried the mouseover text trick and got "7" for October. Someone help! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.119|162.158.255.119]] 17:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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October of all months seems like a pretty easy one to keep track of, simply because October 31st is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween pretty popular holiday.] [[Special:Contributions/108.162.220.11|108.162.220.11]] 18:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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;brain adaptation ridicule…celebration<br />
[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 09:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC) me thinks that while the absurdity of these life hacks has been explained well the deeper issue might yet be missed here: the cultural shift from relying on mental recall and concentration to adapting your brain to rely on technology more than before, reduced attention span and reduced factual memory (better childhood telephone number recall than children's mobile numbers recall) and optimized lookup routines {{unsigned ip|141.101.66.5}}<br />
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<big>digital amnesia!</big> --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:02, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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http://www.bbc.com/news/education-34454264 --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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+ http://www.business2community.com/brandviews/wyzowl/its-official-we-have-shorter-attention-spans-than-goldfish-infographic-01353885#w1RCPWdWy1LoDlvI.97 --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.5|141.101.66.5]] 10:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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My uncle had a nonsense rhyme based on this:<br /><br />
Thirty days hath September,<br /><br />
April, June, and no wonder<br /><br />
All the rest ate peanut butter,<br /><br />
Except Grandma, who rode a tricycle<br /><br />
about this color. (holds hand 3 feet above ground)<br /><br />
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.26|108.162.216.26]] 13:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Yay! I came here specifically to post this version, but was beaten to it. It's from the Napolean XIV album from 1966: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvABMymQz_k</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1594:_Human_Subjects&diff=1038311594: Human Subjects2015-10-23T04:52:26Z<p>108.162.249.163: /* Explanation */ wiki links</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1594<br />
| date = October 23, 2015<br />
| title = Human Subjects<br />
| image = human_subjects.png<br />
| titletext = After meeting with a few of the subjects, the IRB actually recommended that you stop stressing out so much about safety guidelines.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|First attempt - Incomplete - Please change this comment when editing this page.}}<br />
This strip plays on certain experiments involving human subjects. [[Ponytail]] is discussing [[Megan]]'s experiment's fallacies. She mentions that several control group members in an experiment had been arrested with arson; this is troubling, as the control group would not be expected to have such a high rate of incidence, while if the trend had occurred in the experimental group the drug could be identified as the cause of the arson, due to unexpected side effects. The next panel alludes to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma prisoner's dilemma], while the last panel mentions the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment Milgram experiment]. In both cases, the subjects are shown to likely by sociopathic or psychopathic.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
[Ponytail and Megan sit at a desk.]<br />
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Ponytail: We're concerned that some of your results may be tainted by the fact that your human subjects are ''awful''.<br />
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Megan: What do you mean?<br />
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[Ponytail picks up a sheet of paper.]<br />
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Ponytail: Several participants in your drug trial were arrested for arson.<br />
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Megan: Side effects can be unpredictable.<br />
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Ponytail: They were in the control group.<br />
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Ponytail: In your prisoner's dilemma study, 80% of the participants chose to betray their partners ''before'' the experimenter had a chance to tell them about the reward.<br />
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Megan (off-panel): Definitely troubling.<br />
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[Ponytail shows Megan another sheet of paper.]<br />
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Ponytail: In one experiment, your subjects repeatedly gave electric shocks to a stranger in another room.<br />
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Megan: That's a famous philosophical-<br />
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Ponytail: This was a study of moisturizing creams!<br />
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Megan: Yes, we're not sure how they snuck in all that equipment.<br />
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<div>First Panel:<br />
DOI: 10.1097/JSM.0000000000000221<br />
Title:<br />
Statement of the Third International Exercise-Associated Hyponatremia Consensus Development Conference, Carlsbad, California, 2015. Tamara HB, Mitchell HR, Sandra FG et al.<br />
Link:<br />
journals.lww.com/cjsportsmed/Fulltext/2015/07000/Statement_of_the_Third_International.2.aspx<br />
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Second Panel:<br />
DOI: 10.1093/ije/dyv191<br />
Title:<br />
Associations of sitting behaviours with all-cause mortality over a 16-year follow-up: the Whitehall II study. Richard MP, Emmanuel S., Annie RB et al.<br />
Link:<br />
ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/10/09/ije.dyv191<br />
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Third Panel:<br />
DOI: 10.1016/j.cub.2015.09.046 <br />
Natural Sleep and Its Seasonal Variations in Three Pre-industrial Societies. G. Yetish, H. Kaplan, B. Wood et al.<br />
Link:<br />
cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2815%2901157-4<br />
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Full Text links: goo.gl/kc8cSs<br />
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.206|162.158.34.206]] 13:17, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Doh, after I added the links and noticed they were off by a panel I went to add a blurb in the comic description likely at the same time someone else did so in the references section I had just created. :P lol [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 13:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Linking "Digital Object Identifier" to www.doi.org is not helpful. Even their FAQ doesn't tell you what a DOI is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier will be more informative to most people, assuming wikipedia is correct. {{unsigned ip|198.41.235.101}}<br />
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The Image provided here does not match with the one given at [http://xkcd.com/1592/]. At xkcd.com the DOIs are shifted to match the corresponding text. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.92.167|162.158.92.167]] 14:22, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Indeed you are correct. It would appear that Randall didn't intend to confuse us this way. ;) Problem is the comic panel on this page is auto-grabbed by a bot. Someone with more experience than me is going to have to look into this. Once the panel is updated, we can update the DOI link references. [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 14:26, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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;0000000000000221 ???<br />
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The Journal of Sports Medicine seems to think that someday they might have over a '''quadrillion''' articles indexed by DOI. I dunno, maybe that's a tiny bit overly optimistic? - [[User:Frankie|Frankie]] ([[User talk:Frankie|talk]]) 16:09, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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;"Figuring out which ideas are true is hard."<br />
Verification is hard? Maybe as hard as finding a solution?<br />
OMG it's a hidden message: Randall found a proof for P=NP! {{unsigned ip|162.158.91.213}}<br />
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I'm not convinced that's hard. It seems to me more likely that accepting the consequences is hard. For example, telling people they can no longer smoke because they are harming themselves and others would likely impinge on their personal freedom or hurt their poor little feelings. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.33|198.41.238.33]] 22:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Figuring out which ideas are true is just science. {{unsigned|Ima420r}}<br />
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Am I going to offend someone if I point out that religion is a great example of "figuring out which ideas are true is hard" ???</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=56:_The_Cure&diff=9445556: The Cure2015-05-29T02:09:08Z<p>108.162.249.163: /* Explanation */ Linked to the correct wiki page</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 56<br />
| date = January 30, 2006<br />
| title = The Cure<br />
| image = the_cure.jpg<br />
| titletext = My first try at drawing a real face in years.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
The "real face" is depicting {{w|Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith}}, singer of the 80's band {{w|The Cure}}, famous for songs like "A Forest" and "Friday I'm in Love". The joke is therefore very simple: When Robert would sing the above lines of Coldplay's "Clocks", anyone would know the answer: he's part of The Cure.<br />
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:[A charcoal drawing of Robert Smith's head and face, with a caption underneath.]<br />
:Robert Smith should do a cover of<br />
:Coldplay's ''Clocks,'' so when he sings<br />
:"Am I part of the cure or am I part of the disease?"<br />
:we can say, "Ooh, we know this one!"<br />
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[[Category:Music]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring real people]]</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1519:_Venus&diff=919011519: Venus2015-05-01T07:42:27Z<p>108.162.249.163: /* Explanation */</p>
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| date = May 1, 2015<br />
| title = Venus<br />
| image = venus.png<br />
| titletext = The sudden introduction of Venusian flowers led to an explosive growth of unusual Earth pollinators, which became known as the "butterfly effect."<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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[[Miss Lenhart]] is teaching a class blatantly wrong facts about Venus. In the last panel, the verisimilitude of these facts is challenged by one of her students.<br />
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In the second panel, "runaway greenhouse effect" is a pun, referring to the greenhouses, which are leaving the planet (running away).<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Miss Lenhart is standing in front of an image, presumably a temperate Venus, with greenhouses, grass, flowers and a river flowing into a sea.]<br />
:Miss Lenhart: Venus once was temperate. It had seas and rivers, and Venusians cultivated vast fields of beautiful flowers.<br />
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:[The image is now zoomed out to see the entirety of Venus, with continents and oceans. The greenhouses are shown moving (running) away from Venus.]<br />
:Miss Lenhart: Until their greenhouses fled the planet due to the runaway greenhouse effect.<br />
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:[Miss Lenhart is now standing in front of a classroom and addressing the students.]<br />
:Miss Lenhart: The Venusians pursued their greenhouses to Earth, settling in the Netherlands and kickstarting the Dutch floral industry. Any questions?<br />
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:Offscreen: Because you're retiring in a month, do you just not care what you say anymore?<br />
:Miss Lenhart: What?! I '''ride the skies''' atop a screaming bird of truth! Also, yes, I do not.<br />
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1519<br />
| date = May 1, 2015<br />
| title = Venus<br />
| image = venus.png<br />
| titletext = The sudden introduction of Venusian flowers led to an explosive growth of unusual Earth pollinators, which became known as the "butterfly effect."<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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A teacher is teaching a class blatantly wrong facts about Venus. In the last panel, the verisimilitude of these facts is challenged by one of her students.<br />
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In the second panel, "runaway greenhouse effect" is a pun, referring to the greenhouses, which are leaving the planet (running away).<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Miss Lenhart is standing in front of an image, presumably a temperate Venus, with greenhouses, grass, flowers and a river flowing into a sea.]<br />
:Miss Lenhart: Venus once was temperate. It had seas and rivers, and Venusians cultivated vast fields of beautiful flowers.<br />
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:[The image is now zoomed out to see the entirety of Venus, with continents and oceans. The greenhouses are shown moving (running) away from Venus.]<br />
:Miss Lenhart: Until their greenhouses fled the planet due to the runaway greenhouse effect.<br />
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:[Miss Lenhart is now standing in front of a classroom and addressing the students.]<br />
:Miss Lenhart: The Venusians pursued their greenhouses to Earth, settling in the Netherlands and kickstarting the Dutch floral industry. Any questions?<br />
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:Offscreen: Because you're retiring in a month, do you just not care what you say anymore?<br />
:Miss Lenhart: What?! I '''ride the skies''' atop a screaming bird of truth! Also, yes, I do not.<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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<div>The lack of a hover text breaks all sorts of things :) e.g. Floern's unofficial xkcd browser linked here via the hover text but it won't display the link or the lack of give text if there's no hover text! We may get a few less visitors for this comic as a result...<br />
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[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.115|108.162.229.115]] 08:42, 1 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Still getting swamped, it's business as usual for April 1st. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Why is "literally on fire" a question? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.163|108.162.249.163]] 09:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)</div>108.162.249.163https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1506:_xkcloud&diff=87643Talk:1506: xkcloud2015-04-01T09:52:14Z<p>108.162.249.163: Burning question.</p>
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<div>The lack of a hover text breaks all sorts of things :) e.g. Floern's unofficial xkcd browser linked here via the hover text but it won't display the link or the lack of give text if there's no hover text! We may get a few less visitors for this comic as a result...<br />
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[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.115|108.162.229.115]] 08:42, 1 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Still getting swamped, it's business as usual for April 1st. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Why is "literally on fire" a question?</div>108.162.249.163