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My first idea -- this is so draft I'm not even going to submit it into the Explanation: Could Cueball be associating NEXUS with the FernGully villain Hexxus? And the Cisco company/brand of IT products with Commander/Captain Benjamin Sisko from ''ST:DS9'' and Crisco vegetable shortening? I don't have time to look into the other things referenced, and I don't immediately recognize them, but feel free to build on this if you want. Or don't; I don't have time to care right now. '''--BigMal''' // 13:00, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: ...and yet you had time to leave this comment [[User:Spongebog|Spongebob]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 04:44, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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But Sisko saved Deep Space Nine! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.18|141.101.105.18]] 13:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Wouldn't the reference be to Jake Sisko, rather than his father? The Captain was an important character. Jake was just an even worse "Wesley Crusher" and appeared in less than half of the episodes.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.36|162.158.122.36]] 01:43, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Unlikely. I don't think your opinion is that widespread (my circles like him), and Jake is normally 'Jake'. If you talk about Sisko, it's usually Ben (who the Prophets even call 'The Sisko').[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.64|108.162.219.64]] 02:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC) <br />
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Ciscoes are a whitefish in the Salmonid family --13:08, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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The "Thong Song" is sang by an artist named "Sisqo". And ''The Caballero's Way'' written by O.Henry features a character named "the Cisco Kid". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.150.82|162.158.150.82]] 13:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Cisco Kid went on to feature in Comics, films and a Deep Purple Song<br />
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Cisco Kid also a Sublime song. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.154|108.162.216.154]] 15:52, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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What is interesting: Cueball does not refuse all that food and cultural phenomena, because of their association with Cisco, but the other way round! So it is by sheer chance that Cueball hates similar sounding things. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.64|172.68.110.64]] 17:05, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Their *supposed* association with Cisco systems? I mean, so far as I'm aware, Cisco there is no *actual* connection between the food items mentioned & Cisco's networking & electronics products. Unless... (see my fifth comment, below)<br />
:comment 1 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: No... Sebastien is pointing out - correctly - that the title text is saying that Cueball is boycotting Cisco systems because he hates the Thong Song, he's boycotting Cisco because he hates Deep Space 9, etc. These 6 or 7 hates (I didn't count) are all leading to one boycott. The other way around, hating Cisco leading to boycotts of anything that sounds like Cisco, would be much simpler and easy to believe. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:42, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: It also works the other way around, Cisco has a line of switches called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Nexus_switches Nexus] ...[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.120|141.101.105.120]] 11:05, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Is this poking fun at the backlash to EA right now? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.232|162.158.75.232]] 17:51, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Is there name confusion involved? You're talking about backlash to the method of unlocking heroes in EA's recent Battlefront II (re-)release? I'm not aware of the backlash affecting any products/companies with a similar sounding name... Is there a link you could point to?<br />
:(One potential point of confusion, though not related in any way to the backlash: Battlefront II was arguably one of the best games released for PS2. It has now been re-designed & re-released for PS4. The backlash is due to the new version having released with the most famous heroes locked in a manner intended to goad players into micro-purchases to unlock them; this has since been changed.)<br />
:comment 2 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Wait, wait... Brak had a brother!? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.51.107|173.245.51.107]] 00:33, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== a few more ==<br />
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o henry:<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cisco_Kid<br />
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fish<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_(fish)<br />
<br />
incan<br />
http://emperorsnew.wikia.com/wiki/Kuzco<br />
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brak<br />
http://brak.wikia.com/wiki/Sisto<br />
[[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.202|141.101.76.202]] 13:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Cisco Nexus<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Nexus_switches<br />
[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.120|141.101.105.120]] 11:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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I was really looking forward to coming over to ExplainXKCD.com and seeing the explanation "We don't get it, either." Disappointed again! [[User:Jpd|Jpd]] ([[User talk:Jpd|talk]]) 14:15, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: I got the FernGully and Thong Song references immediately, the rest I thought might be lyrics in the song, didn't realize Randall found so many other Ciscos, LOL! For FernGully I hadn't realized he got the name wrong, I found that a bit disappointing. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Other Nexuses ==<br />
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I'm surprised Cueball didn't also refer to [http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Nexus The Nexus] from Star Trek Generations. That's definitely something I wouldn't want to sign up for. Sure, it will speed up your travel, but that assumes you can get out in the first place. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:^^ *THIS!* ^^<br />
:comment 3 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Nexi* <br />
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Also - how about the Google Android phone? [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 15:53, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:But... What fault would you find with a Nexus phone? Aside from it being very old now...<br />
:comment 4 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Isn't the most important connection between Nexus and Cisco, the [https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/switches/data-center-switches/index.html Cisco Nexus Switch]? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.23|172.68.132.23]] 09:16, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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There are so many more things called "Nexus": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus<br />
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== Broader context ==<br />
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People sometimes really engage in boycotts because of confusion that's almost that silly. In 2008, some people wanted to boycott [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boycott-arizona-iced-tea-wait-a-second/|boycott Arizona Iced Tea] over an Arizona immigration law, even though the company is based in New York. [[User:Gmcgath|Gmcgath]] ([[User talk:Gmcgath|talk]]) 16:49, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I liked Arizona lemonade -- when I could find it; no longer -- and despite their claims of being an American company, production of said lemonade was in Canada. But I like Canada too, so it was okay. '''--BigMal''' // [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.184|108.162.216.184]] 19:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
And the amusement factor of watching the U.S. rename "French Fries" (chips) as "Freedom Fries" as a punishment for the French, for a while there.... The rest of the world couldn't stop telling that joke. The French were delighted, as well. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.53|108.162.250.53]] 21:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: I remember a few years ago with The Swine Flu, pig farmers started to feel the hate because people thought the name meant we got it FROM pigs, when it really meant pigs were likewise able to catch it or something innocent like that. They had to drop that name and use the more boring scientific name H1N1. Because of idiots and their easy confusion. :) (I am absolutely against catering to idiocy, I say push them to learn instead). [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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I thought there would be a reference to Sysco foods, purveyors of crappy canned veggies, a company which has been publicly chided for leaving raw meat in unrefrigerated sheds for hours at a time, prior to delivery.<br />
comment 5 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</div>141.101.105.120https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1918:_NEXUS&diff=148161Talk:1918: NEXUS2017-11-21T11:05:46Z<p>141.101.105.120: </p>
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My first idea -- this is so draft I'm not even going to submit it into the Explanation: Could Cueball be associating NEXUS with the FernGully villain Hexxus? And the Cisco company/brand of IT products with Commander/Captain Benjamin Sisko from ''ST:DS9'' and Crisco vegetable shortening? I don't have time to look into the other things referenced, and I don't immediately recognize them, but feel free to build on this if you want. Or don't; I don't have time to care right now. '''--BigMal''' // 13:00, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: ...and yet you had time to leave this comment [[User:Spongebog|Spongebob]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 04:44, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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But Sisko saved Deep Space Nine! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.18|141.101.105.18]] 13:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Wouldn't the reference be to Jake Sisko, rather than his father? The Captain was an important character. Jake was just an even worse "Wesley Crusher" and appeared in less than half of the episodes.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.36|162.158.122.36]] 01:43, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Unlikely. I don't think your opinion is that widespread (my circles like him), and Jake is normally 'Jake'. If you talk about Sisko, it's usually Ben (who the Prophets even call 'The Sisko').[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.64|108.162.219.64]] 02:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC) <br />
<br />
<br />
Ciscoes are a whitefish in the Salmonid family --13:08, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
The "Thong Song" is sang by an artist named "Sisqo". And ''The Caballero's Way'' written by O.Henry features a character named "the Cisco Kid". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.150.82|162.158.150.82]] 13:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Cisco Kid went on to feature in Comics, films and a Deep Purple Song<br />
<br />
Cisco Kid also a Sublime song. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.154|108.162.216.154]] 15:52, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
What is interesting: Cueball does not refuse all that food and cultural phenomena, because of their association with Cisco, but the other way round! So it is by sheer chance that Cueball hates similar sounding things. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.64|172.68.110.64]] 17:05, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Their *supposed* association with Cisco systems? I mean, so far as I'm aware, Cisco there is no *actual* connection between the food items mentioned & Cisco's networking & electronics products. Unless... (see my fifth comment, below)<br />
:comment 1 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: No... Sebastien is pointing out - correctly - that the title text is saying that Cueball is boycotting Cisco systems because he hates the Thong Song, he's boycotting Cisco because he hates Deep Space 9, etc. These 6 or 7 hates (I didn't count) are all leading to one boycott. The other way around, hating Cisco leading to boycotts of anything that sounds like Cisco, would be much simpler and easy to believe. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:42, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: It also works the other way around, Cisco has a line of switches called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Nexus_switches Nexus] ...[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.120|141.101.105.120]] 11:05, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Is this poking fun at the backlash to EA right now? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.232|162.158.75.232]] 17:51, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Is there name confusion involved? You're talking about backlash to the method of unlocking heroes in EA's recent Battlefront II (re-)release? I'm not aware of the backlash affecting any products/companies with a similar sounding name... Is there a link you could point to?<br />
:(One potential point of confusion, though not related in any way to the backlash: Battlefront II was arguably one of the best games released for PS2. It has now been re-designed & re-released for PS4. The backlash is due to the new version having released with the most famous heroes locked in a manner intended to goad players into micro-purchases to unlock them; this has since been changed.)<br />
:comment 2 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Wait, wait... Brak had a brother!? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.51.107|173.245.51.107]] 00:33, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== a few more ==<br />
<br />
o henry:<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cisco_Kid<br />
<br />
fish<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_(fish)<br />
<br />
incan<br />
http://emperorsnew.wikia.com/wiki/Kuzco<br />
<br />
brak<br />
http://brak.wikia.com/wiki/Sisto<br />
[[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.202|141.101.76.202]] 13:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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I was really looking forward to coming over to ExplainXKCD.com and seeing the explanation "We don't get it, either." Disappointed again! [[User:Jpd|Jpd]] ([[User talk:Jpd|talk]]) 14:15, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: I got the FernGully and Thong Song references immediately, the rest I thought might be lyrics in the song, didn't realize Randall found so many other Ciscos, LOL! For FernGully I hadn't realized he got the name wrong, I found that a bit disappointing. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Other Nexuses ==<br />
<br />
I'm surprised Cueball didn't also refer to [http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Nexus The Nexus] from Star Trek Generations. That's definitely something I wouldn't want to sign up for. Sure, it will speed up your travel, but that assumes you can get out in the first place. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:^^ *THIS!* ^^<br />
:comment 3 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Nexi* <br />
<br />
Also - how about the Google Android phone? [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 15:53, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:But... What fault would you find with a Nexus phone? Aside from it being very old now...<br />
:comment 4 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Isn't the most important connection between Nexus and Cisco, the [https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/switches/data-center-switches/index.html Cisco Nexus Switch]? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.23|172.68.132.23]] 09:16, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
There are so many more things called "Nexus": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus<br />
<br />
== Broader context ==<br />
<br />
People sometimes really engage in boycotts because of confusion that's almost that silly. In 2008, some people wanted to boycott [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boycott-arizona-iced-tea-wait-a-second/|boycott Arizona Iced Tea] over an Arizona immigration law, even though the company is based in New York. [[User:Gmcgath|Gmcgath]] ([[User talk:Gmcgath|talk]]) 16:49, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I liked Arizona lemonade -- when I could find it; no longer -- and despite their claims of being an American company, production of said lemonade was in Canada. But I like Canada too, so it was okay. '''--BigMal''' // [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.184|108.162.216.184]] 19:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
And the amusement factor of watching the U.S. rename "French Fries" (chips) as "Freedom Fries" as a punishment for the French, for a while there.... The rest of the world couldn't stop telling that joke. The French were delighted, as well. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.53|108.162.250.53]] 21:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
: I remember a few years ago with The Swine Flu, pig farmers started to feel the hate because people thought the name meant we got it FROM pigs, when it really meant pigs were likewise able to catch it or something innocent like that. They had to drop that name and use the more boring scientific name H1N1. Because of idiots and their easy confusion. :) (I am absolutely against catering to idiocy, I say push them to learn instead). [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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I thought there would be a reference to Sysco foods, purveyors of crappy canned veggies, a company which has been publicly chided for leaving raw meat in unrefrigerated sheds for hours at a time, prior to delivery.<br />
comment 5 of 5 by [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.130|162.158.75.130]] 21:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</div>141.101.105.120https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=909:_Worst-Case_Shopping&diff=74443909: Worst-Case Shopping2014-08-27T15:47:55Z<p>141.101.105.120: /* Explanation */ Changed 20$ to 25$ to match the comic.</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 909<br />
| date = June 8, 2011<br />
| title = Worst-Case Shopping<br />
| image = worst case shopping.png<br />
| titletext = Wait a minute. If I'm escaping from a submarine at 50 meters, then I'll *definitely* need a flashlight to find air pockets for gradual decompression on the way up. Time to start shopping professional dive lights.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
[[Cueball]] is dreaming up reasons he should get a flashlight that is water resistant up to 40 meters instead of 10 meters.<br />
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In the dream sequence over the first 2 and a half frames, Cueball appears to be diving to find a key underwater, which he spots using his flashlight when he is at 8 meters. His flashlight goes out at 10 meters because he bought the "Hi-Brite" model. The dream sequence also references a "radio shed", which were only really used in the past for {{w|amateur radio}}s or some other military style bases/compounds—which would align with his "warn the President" line.<br />
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The title text takes Cueball's thought process to the next level (worse-case), because if he is getting a flashlight that works to 40 meters, he should probably be prepared for even deeper waters as well (even worse-case). However, this is seen as ridiculous from his friend off-screen, since the more durable model costs 25$ more in return. However, he replies that you never know what situation you'd be in.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Cueball is diving in very deep, dark blue water. He shines a flashlight at the sea floor.]<br />
:Cueball (thinks): Eight meters. There's the wreckage... Yes! I see the key!<br />
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:[As he swims further toward it, his flashlight starts to cut out.]<br />
:Cueball (thinks): Gotta grab it, surface, get in to the radio shed, and warn the President! Just a few more...<br />
:Flashlight: BZZT FIZZ<br />
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:[This panel has no border like the others, and is divided in half diagonally by a thought bubble.]<br />
:[The left half of it is a dark blue thought bubble with the diver inside it. On the right hand side are packaged flashlights hanging on a shelf. The one called Hi-Brite is $24.95 and is labeled "water resistant to 10 meters." The one called "FenStar G6" is $49.95 and says "water resistant to 40 meters."]<br />
:Cueball (thinks): Oh no.<br />
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:[Cueball and a friend stand in front of a flashlight display in a store. Cueball looks down at the packages with his hand on his chin in thought. The thought bubble from the previous panel leads from his head. The friend stands behind him.]<br />
:Cueball: ...maybe I should spring for the deeper water resistance.<br />
:Friend: Why on earth would you care about that?<br />
:Cueball: Look, you never know.<br />
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