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I wonder if it has to be below 50% with critic score, audience score, or both? [[User:Andyd273|Andyd273]] ([[User talk:Andyd273|talk]]) 17:36, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Genisys has an Audience Score of 53%, so I think it has to be critic score (Tomatometer). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.124|108.162.241.124]] 21:42, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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[https://www.rottentomatoes.com/browse/dvd-streaming-all?minTomato=0&maxTomato=49&services=amazon;hbo_go;itunes;netflix_iw;vudu;amazon_prime;fandango_now&genres=1;2;4;5;6;8;9;10;11;13;18;14&sortBy=tomato Movies] on DVD or streaming, tomatometer 49% down to 0%. <br />
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Plenty of Twilight fans will raise their hands - it is rated 49% --[[User:Thomcat|Thomcat]] ([[User talk:Thomcat|talk]]) 18:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Well, I'm around the typical age of (original) Twilight fans, and none of the movies in the saga came in my adult life. (But they're all below 50%)[[Special:Contributions/162.158.103.147|162.158.103.147]] 18:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I mean, Shaft got a 30% on the Tomatometer and a 94 on the audience score, and I loved it. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.22|108.162.241.22]] 18:57, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Do Waterworld, in spite of the fact that it only ticks two of the boxes, count? I really liked that one.<br />
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:If it didn't come out while you were an adult, then it doesn't count. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 20:16, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't watch enough movies (or know Rotten Tomatoes well enough) to participate in this particular challenge, but it seems like every time I enjoy a video game, it turns out to have a sizeable and vocal hatedom. I seriously can't relate to the caption here. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.165|162.158.107.165]] 20:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Batman v. Superman is probably a good answer for a fair number of people-it has a reasonable number of fans (including myself) who liked it, despite its very poor rating (28%) [[User:SirEpp|SirEpp]] ([[User talk:SirEpp|talk]]) 21:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not a movie, per se, but I thought season 8 of Game of Thrones was fantastic. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.88|162.158.214.88]] 22:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Critically panned films that I like include: Crimes of Grindelwald, Passengers, and Warcraft.<br />
:Oooh, ''Passengers'' is a good one, I'm stealing that. [[User:Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn|talk]]) 01:16, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Critically acclaimed films that I do not like: Avatar and Life of Pi. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.48.213|173.245.48.213]] 22:47, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not under 50%, but I'm shocked that "The Secret Life of Walter Smitty" has only 51%... National Treasure has only 46%... I like this game, it is a test in optimism.<br />
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Frankly it would be easier to list the movies I like that aren't below 50% on rotten tomatoes. [[User:CJB42|CJB42]] ([[User talk:CJB42|talk]]) 00:23, 3 August 2019 (UTC)s<br />
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My experience with rotten tomatoes ratings in particular is that they have no clue and I find their ratings useless. The challenge from Randall in this comic is a case in point: the first movie I though to check, “Another Gay Movie” gets a 40% on the tomatometer yet is one of my favorites. Same thing with all the “Eating Out” movies: good comedies that I enjoy, yet Tomatometer scores of 16%, 44%, and 17% for the first three. (And why is “Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds” so much higher ranked than 1 or 3? It’s not that different...)<br />
I think the criteria that Randal assumes (but doesn’t mention) is that the movie has to be a box office hit that appeals to mainstream audiences.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.73|162.158.107.73]] 03:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't see why Suicide Squad got trashed. It was light, colourful, had an engaging story, and well made. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.253.209|172.68.253.209]] 04:04, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Post-2000? ==<br />
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Anyone have an idea why "post-2000" is a criteria? [[User:Stevage|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage|talk]]) 23:58, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe because Rotten Tomatoes was launched close to the end of the 1990s, so post-2000 movies are the only ones that have been reviewed as they came out? Or perhaps it's to limit the scope of "movies that came out in your adult life", since adult life could go back a long way for some people. [[User:Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn|talk]]) 01:16, 3 August 2019 (UTC)</div>172.68.253.209https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2151:_A/B&diff=1742632151: A/B2019-05-18T00:34:29Z<p>172.68.253.209: Typos + some detail</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2151<br />
| date = May 17, 2019<br />
| title = A/B<br />
| image = a_b.png<br />
| titletext = We wrote our site in Linear A rather than Aksara Kawi because browser testing showed that Crete script rendered faster than Java script.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Written in MYCENEAN GREEK. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
{{w|A/B testing}} is a form of {{w|Scientific control|controlled experiment}} in which test subjects are randomly split into two groups, A and B, and each group is shown a slightly different version of the same thing. This is most often used for market research, as it allows researchers to discover which of two options are received more favorably by consumers. For example, a website might employ A/B testing by randomly showing 50% of visitors a version with a different font. By checking their site traffic analytics afterward, the site operators can see which version of the site received the most user engagement, which might tell them that the alternate font is a better choice.<br />
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{{w|Linear A}}, on the other hand, is an as-of-yet undeciphered writing system of the ancient Minoan civilization (a civilization based on the island of Crete). It appears similar to the deciphered Linear B writing system, but if the pronunciation rules of Linear B are applied to Linear A, it produces a language unrelated to any known language. <br />
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{{w|Linear B}} is a syllabic script that was used for writing Mycenaean Greek, the earliest attested form of Greek.<br />
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The comic jokingly suggests that the choice of writing system could be decided through A/B testing. The test subject apparently can read Linear B (which encodes Mycenaean Greek), but not Linear A (which produces what's seemingly gibberish when read through the rules of Linear B). It is also a pun on the common phrase "[it's] {{w|Greek to me}}", which people use to refer to something as gibberish, but here, it is the Greek text which is comprehensible to [[Cueball]], while instead the other one isn't.<br />
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{{w|Kawi script|Aksara Kawi}} is a writing system that was used on the island of Java (today part of Indonesia) from the 8th century until 1500 AD. As per the title text, Linear A is not being used to encode the information presented to the user (i.e. {{w|natural language}}), but rather the code which defines how or what is presented to the user (i.e. {{w|programming language}}). That is to say, Aksara Kawi is a script (i.e. a writing system) from the island of Java, and thus being humorously presented as equivalent to {{w|JavaScript}}, which is a common way to encode dynamic content on webpages. <br />
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Linear A and Linear B are also script engines used in early versions of the Opera web browser, thus further equivalence is presented between them and the writing systems.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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:[Cueball is sitting behind a computer desk, facing to the right, gesturing at the screen. Ponytail stands behind him and Hairy stands in front of him, both taking notes in a pad.]<br />
:Cueball: I like this one more because it encodes Mycenaean Greek. The other one just looks like gibberish.<br />
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:[Caption below the panel:] <br />
:Linear A/B testing<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Hairy]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Ponytail]]</div>172.68.253.209https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=388:_Fuck_Grapefruit&diff=173137388: Fuck Grapefruit2019-04-25T06:15:20Z<p>172.68.253.209: /* Table */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 388<br />
| date = February 25, 2008<br />
| title = Fuck Grapefruit<br />
| image = fuck_grapefruit.png<br />
| titletext = Coconuts are so far down to the left they couldn't be fit on the chart. Ever spent half an hour trying to open a coconut with a rock? Fuck coconuts.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
This comic consists of a chart where [[Randall]] has plotted {{w|fruits}} according to two criteria: ease/difficulty to eat on the horizontal axis, and tastiness on the vertical axis. The Y-axis goes from "tasty" at the top, to "untasty" at the bottom. The X-axis goes from "easy" on the right to "difficult" on the left. <br />
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For instance, {{w|pineapples}} are deemed fairly tasty but very difficult to eat, whereas (seeded) {{w|grapes}} are very tasty and somewhat easy, and logically {{w|Grape#Seedless_grapes|seedless grapes}} are roughly equally tasty but easier to eat.<br />
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Obviously being easy to eat is preferable to being difficult, and being tasty is preferable to being untasty, so the "best" fruits (regarding these two aspects only) are in the top-right corner, and the worst in the bottom-left; additionally, in the top-left corner are the "difficult-but-worthy" fruits, and in the bottom-right one, the "not-very-tasty-but-at-least-they're-easy-to-eat" ones.<br />
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The individual ratings of each fruit are subjective; very obviously in the case of tastiness, and more subtly for difficulty. Randall does not explain his criteria for ranking the difficulty of each fruit, and it is likely based on only personal experiences. Someone who has grown up in an area where pineapples are plentiful is likely to be more adept at skillfully preparing them. The discrepancies between how Randall has rated certain fruits and how others believe they should have been rated caused a [[#Controversy|surprising level of controversy]]. Later Randall suggests using a [[1949: Fruit Collider]] to create a pineapple with apple skin, thus combining tastiness with ease to eat.<br />
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According to the chart, {{w|Grapefruit}} is the third hardest fruit to eat as well as the second least tasty fruit (from the ones listed at least). Eating one of them is like spending too much of one's time and energy without much reward. Hence Randall's quip in the title: "Fuck grapefruit".<br />
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The comic created a lot of [[#Controversy|controversy]] at the time of its release. Nine years later a comic about the best tasting foods [[1811: Best-Tasting Colors]] was released, which also generated a lot of discussions. That comic indicated that Randall had [[#Change of taste|changed his taste]] over the years.<br />
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In the title text Randall mentions {{w|coconuts}}. Randall mentions that he would have to put them so far down to the left on the chart (not far down, just far down towards the left), that they would not fit in this chart. He thus states that it is so much more difficult to eat (especially to open) coconuts than the usual mainstream fruits such as the ones plotted here. If he did include coconuts in the chart the rest of the fruits would all be pushed to the right side of the chart. He does not say that he does not like to eat the fruit. (Although it has "{{w|nut}}" in its name, the coconut is actually a {{w|Drupe|stone fruit}} and thus belongs on a chart of fruit.) Having spent half an hour trying (in vain?) to open a coconut, Randall also only has one thing to say about them: "Fuck coconuts". However, harvesting just the "milk" is pretty easy as you can poke a sturdy stick or metal pole into one of three spots located on the coconut. these spots are lighter and slightly indented from the rest of the coconut and form a triangle shape.<br />
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In [[1701: Speed and Danger]] another scatter plot shows exactly what happens when one point is inserted into such a plot if it is far removed from all the other points, in this case even on both axes.<br />
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Note that [[Randall]] uses similar diagrams in both [[1242: Scary Names]] and [[1501: Mysteries]] which also contain different items. Both of these also have an extra point mentioned in the title text, but only the first is also off the chart, whereas for the second the description of the point is too long to fit on the chart. Extra info outside the chart is also used in the title text of [[1785: Wifi]], but this is a line graph.<br />
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===Table===<br />
The table below lists approximate coordinates for each fruit using a scale of -100% (untasty/difficult) to 100% (tasty/easy). The coordinates are based on the included fruits, any new items added outside the current range (e.g. Coconuts) would cause the scales to be reassigned, and thus change the coordinate values of existing items.<br />
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The coordinates have been found by measuring each fruit from the center of the drawing (not the center of mass, but center from left to right/top to bottom) to the two axes. The axes are hand drawn which is clearly visible. The numbers have been obtained by measuring to the nearest point of each axis, not taking into account that the axes are not perfect straight perpendicular lines. <br />
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{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
! Tastiness !! Easiness !! Fruit !! Comments<br />
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| 100% || 68% || {{w|Peaches}} || Among Randall's favorite fruits, as it is the one deemed most tasty and it is far tastier than the four fruits that are deemed easier to eat. While it does contain a stone/pit which may be annoying due to the disposal of the sticky remains, it's large enough to eat around and Randall apparently sees it not to be that big a problem in the long run. In [[1949: Fruit Collider]], Randall has also shown his love for peaches, with "watermelon sized" peaches appearing.<br />
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| 85% || 13% || {{w|Grape|Seeded grapes}} || Randall apparently subscribes to the theory that seeded grapes are tastier than unseeded grapes due to higher genetic diversity but are harder to eat because of the seeds. <br />
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| 75% || 75% || {{w|Strawberries}} || Actually not a berry but an {{w|accessory fruit}}, like many of the other fruits on the chart<br />
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| 72% || 100% || {{w|Grape#Seedless_grapes|Seedless grapes}} || Randall apparently subscribes to the theory that seeded grapes are tastier than unseeded grapes due to higher genetic diversity but are harder to eat because of the seeds. <br />
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| 68% || -100% || {{w|Pineapples}} || Requires a knife to prepare and can be tricky to dissect without wasting a lot of the fruit.<br />
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| 58% || 87% || {{w|Blueberries}} || Usually not listed as a fruit but as a {{w|berry}} although this is still a type of fruit.<br />
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| 38% || 42% || {{w|Cherries}} || Containing a stone/pit which may be annoying due to the disposal of the sticky remains and taking care not to swallow them.<br />
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| 37% || 66% || {{w|Pear}}s || Most people will not eat the core of the pear and is thus left with some sticky part that needs to be disposed of. <br />
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| 22% || 79% || {{w|Green apples}} || Most people will not eat the apple core and is thus left with some sticky part that needs to be disposed of. It is unclear why green apples are shown as tastier than red. <br />
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| 17% || 59% || {{w|Plums}} || Containing a stone/pit which may be annoying due to the disposal of the sticky remains and taking care not to swallow them.<br />
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| 15% || -20% || {{w|Watermelons}} || Surprisingly considered by Randall to be easier than oranges, which are fairly easy to peel. A watermelon is larger, so the effort to reward ratio is better, but this shouldn't affect its 'ease of eating' position. On the other hand, it is easy to cut a watermelon into edible pieces. You cannot cut an orange like this and they can sometimes be very difficult to peel and you will get very sticky when trying. This can be avoided with the watermelon.<br />
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| -12% || 79% || {{w|Apple|Red apples}} || Most people will not eat the apple core and is thus left with some sticky part that need to be disposed. It is unclear why green apples are shown as tastier than red; in his "What If?" book, Randall mentions a specific dislike of "red delicious" apples.<br />
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| -18% || 16% || {{w|Bananas}} || The only fruit with a skin that requires peeling with a positive value on the X-axis, likely because it has a nub on the top that makes it far easier to remove than other peeling-required fruits. However, it is likely due to this reason that it is not very far along the X-axis, since ultimately one still has to do some preparation to eat it, unlike all the other fruits on the positive X-axis end. Alternatively, the stringy pith which some people refuse to eat and thus have to pick off also hold it back from being deemed easy to eat. The difficulty could also relate to the different opinion of which end to open bananas in, which was the subject of the much later [[1982: Evangelism]], especially in the title text.<br />
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| -20% || -85% || {{w|Pomegranates}} || Pomegranates have a very large number of tart, juice-filled arils surrounded in inedible pith and a fairly tough skin. Retrieving the arils is notoriously messy.<br />
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| -46% || -49% || {{w|Oranges}} || Considered more difficult than lemons, perhaps due to the layer of pith which is rarely encountered when preparing lemons.<br />
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| -74% || 26% || {{w|Tomatoes}} || The culinary arts, nutritional sciences, and United States tax and customs regulations all treat tomatoes as a {{w|vegetable}}, mostly due to its taste. In the botanical sense, however, it is actually a fruit (specifically, a {{w|berry}}).<br />
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| -86% || -75% || {{w|Grapefruit}} || Grapefruits are very difficult fruit to peel, and thus eat. They are also deemed very untasty. ie. "Fuck grapefruit."<br />
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| -100% || -15% || {{w|Lemons}} || Considered easier than oranges, perhaps due to the layer of pith which is rarely encountered when preparing lemons. Very untasty in and of themselves; lemons are a common baking ingredient, but are so sour they are rarely eaten as a fruit.<br />
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| Unknown || Off Chart || {{w|Coconuts}} || Coconuts are incredibly difficult to open due to their hard outer shell. It is unclear what stance Randall has on the taste of Coconuts.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[An X-Y scatter plot of fruit where both axes have arrows in both ends. At the end of each arrow is a label.] <br />
:[The X-axis from left to right:]<br />
:Difficult<br />
:Easy<br />
:[The Y-axis from top to bottom:]<br />
:Tasty<br />
:Untasty<br />
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:[The fruit names are listed here below from top to bottom according to the how tasty the fruit is, not necessarily in the same order that the names are written if one fruit is tall/large and the other low:]<br />
:Peaches<br />
:Seeded grapes<br />
:Strawberries<br />
:Seedless grapes<br />
:Pineapples<br />
:Blueberries<br />
:Cherries<br />
:Pears<br />
:Green apples<br />
:Plums<br />
:Watermelons<br />
:Red apples<br />
:Bananas<br />
:Pomegranates<br />
:Oranges<br />
:Tomatoes<br />
:Grapefruit<br />
:Lemons<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
===Controversy===<br />
*As evident from the above section, and according to [http://blog.xkcd.com/2008/02/25/fruit-opinions/ FRUIT OPINIONS!] on the [http://blog.xkcd.com/ Blag], this was the most controversial comic written to this point, ''beating out comics about cunnilingus, the Obama endorsement, and my making 4chan tiny on the map of online communities''.<br />
**{{w|Cunnilingus}} see [[136: Science Fair]].<br />
**{{w|List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008|The Obama endorsement}} See [http://blog.xkcd.com/2008/01/28/obama/ Politics] also from the Blag. <br />
***The only comic mentioning {{w|Obama}} before this comic was [[360: Writers Strike]].<br />
**{{w|4chan}} is tiny on the map of the internet called [[256: Online Communities]]. (See the small island to the far right - left of "dragons" in the sentence ''Here there be anthropomorphic dragons''.)<br />
***Not to be confused with the comic that is actually named [[195: Map of the Internet]].<br />
*A later food taste comic [[1811: Best-Tasting Colors]] also generated a lot of [[Talk:1811: Best-Tasting Colors|talk on these pages]] (see more about it [[#Change of taste|below]]).<br />
**Similarly the [[Talk:1534: Beer|talk page]] for [[1534: Beer]] was also used a lot because Randall said he did not like beer. <br />
**So it seems that food is almost as sensitive as politics, although Randall's endorsement of {{w|Hillary Clinton}} in [[1756: I'm With Her]] the day before the {{w|United_States_presidential_election,_2016|presidential election in 2016}} where {{w|Donald Trump}} won, seems to have generated even more [[Talk:1756: I'm With Her|talk here]] than any food related comic.<br />
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===Change of taste===<br />
Later, in [[1811: Best-Tasting Colors]], Randall once again rates food taste in general but this time based on the color of the food. So not just fruit and nothing about how easy it is to eat. There are, however, several of the fruits from this chart included, but not grapefruit. Instead {{w|Concord grape|purple grapes}} is rated as the worst fruit on the chart with less than 1.5 on a scale from 1-9. This is interesting as he did not include those in this chart, but has rated green/white {{w|Table grape|grapes}} very high in tastiness. It seems like he has altered his taste over the nine years between releases since lemon which was the worst taste on this chart has moved up to 3/9 while Oranges have moved further down to a 2/9. Watermelon is also included (both for pink and green) with 6/9 making it seem better than in this chart. Green apples has also moved almost to the top with nearly 8/9 vs. only just above 50% here. Finally there is cherry (as good as the apple) and strawberry (8.5/9), which fits here for strawberry, but it seems like cherries has moved up a notch. Three fruits not included here are Lime (as lemon), and red and blue raspberries (5.5/9). But it turns out that the worst taste for Randall is not grape, but licorice at 1/9, with both popcorn and coffee worse than grape at about 1.5/9 . The best is cotton candy which beats strawberry by a nose.<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Comics with color]]<br />
[[Category:Scatter plots]]<br />
[[Category:Rankings]]<br />
[[Category:Food]]</div>172.68.253.209https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=388:_Fuck_Grapefruit&diff=173136388: Fuck Grapefruit2019-04-25T06:06:35Z<p>172.68.253.209: /* Explanation */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 388<br />
| date = February 25, 2008<br />
| title = Fuck Grapefruit<br />
| image = fuck_grapefruit.png<br />
| titletext = Coconuts are so far down to the left they couldn't be fit on the chart. Ever spent half an hour trying to open a coconut with a rock? Fuck coconuts.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
This comic consists of a chart where [[Randall]] has plotted {{w|fruits}} according to two criteria: ease/difficulty to eat on the horizontal axis, and tastiness on the vertical axis. The Y-axis goes from "tasty" at the top, to "untasty" at the bottom. The X-axis goes from "easy" on the right to "difficult" on the left. <br />
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For instance, {{w|pineapples}} are deemed fairly tasty but very difficult to eat, whereas (seeded) {{w|grapes}} are very tasty and somewhat easy, and logically {{w|Grape#Seedless_grapes|seedless grapes}} are roughly equally tasty but easier to eat.<br />
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Obviously being easy to eat is preferable to being difficult, and being tasty is preferable to being untasty, so the "best" fruits (regarding these two aspects only) are in the top-right corner, and the worst in the bottom-left; additionally, in the top-left corner are the "difficult-but-worthy" fruits, and in the bottom-right one, the "not-very-tasty-but-at-least-they're-easy-to-eat" ones.<br />
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The individual ratings of each fruit are subjective; very obviously in the case of tastiness, and more subtly for difficulty. Randall does not explain his criteria for ranking the difficulty of each fruit, and it is likely based on only personal experiences. Someone who has grown up in an area where pineapples are plentiful is likely to be more adept at skillfully preparing them. The discrepancies between how Randall has rated certain fruits and how others believe they should have been rated caused a [[#Controversy|surprising level of controversy]]. Later Randall suggests using a [[1949: Fruit Collider]] to create a pineapple with apple skin, thus combining tastiness with ease to eat.<br />
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According to the chart, {{w|Grapefruit}} is the third hardest fruit to eat as well as the second least tasty fruit (from the ones listed at least). Eating one of them is like spending too much of one's time and energy without much reward. Hence Randall's quip in the title: "Fuck grapefruit".<br />
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The comic created a lot of [[#Controversy|controversy]] at the time of its release. Nine years later a comic about the best tasting foods [[1811: Best-Tasting Colors]] was released, which also generated a lot of discussions. That comic indicated that Randall had [[#Change of taste|changed his taste]] over the years.<br />
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In the title text Randall mentions {{w|coconuts}}. Randall mentions that he would have to put them so far down to the left on the chart (not far down, just far down towards the left), that they would not fit in this chart. He thus states that it is so much more difficult to eat (especially to open) coconuts than the usual mainstream fruits such as the ones plotted here. If he did include coconuts in the chart the rest of the fruits would all be pushed to the right side of the chart. He does not say that he does not like to eat the fruit. (Although it has "{{w|nut}}" in its name, the coconut is actually a {{w|Drupe|stone fruit}} and thus belongs on a chart of fruit.) Having spent half an hour trying (in vain?) to open a coconut, Randall also only has one thing to say about them: "Fuck coconuts". However, harvesting just the "milk" is pretty easy as you can poke a sturdy stick or metal pole into one of three spots located on the coconut. these spots are lighter and slightly indented from the rest of the coconut and form a triangle shape.<br />
<br />
In [[1701: Speed and Danger]] another scatter plot shows exactly what happens when one point is inserted into such a plot if it is far removed from all the other points, in this case even on both axes.<br />
<br />
Note that [[Randall]] uses similar diagrams in both [[1242: Scary Names]] and [[1501: Mysteries]] which also contain different items. Both of these also have an extra point mentioned in the title text, but only the first is also off the chart, whereas for the second the description of the point is too long to fit on the chart. Extra info outside the chart is also used in the title text of [[1785: Wifi]], but this is a line graph.<br />
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===Table===<br />
The table below lists approximate coordinates for each fruit using a scale of -100% (untasty/difficult) to 100% (tasty/easy). The coordinates are based on the included fruits, any new items added outside the current range (e.g. Coconuts) would cause the scales to be reassigned, and thus change the coordinate values of existing items.<br />
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The coordinates have been found by measuring each fruit from the center of the drawing (not the center of mass, but center from left to right/top to bottom) to the two axes. The axes are hand drawn which is clearly visible. The numbers have been obtained by measuring to the nearest point of each axis, not taking into account that the axes are not perfect straight perpendicular lines. <br />
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{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
! Tastiness !! Easiness !! Fruit !! Comments<br />
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| 100% || 68% || {{w|Peaches}} || Among Randall's favorite fruits, as it is the one deemed most tasty and it is far tastier than the four fruits that are deemed easier to eat. While it does contain a stone/pit which may be annoying due to the disposal of the sticky remains, it's large enough to eat around and Randall apparently sees it not to be that big a problem in the long run. In [[1949: Fruit Collider]], Randall has also shown his love for peaches, with "watermelon sized" peaches appearing.<br />
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| 85% || 13% || {{w|Grape|Seeded grapes}} || Randall apparently subscribes to the theory that seeded grapes are tastier than unseeded grapes due to higher genetic diversity but are harder to eat because of the seeds. <br />
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| 75% || 75% || {{w|Strawberries}} || Actually not a berry but an {{w|accessory fruit}}, like many of the other fruits on the chart<br />
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| 72% || 100% || {{w|Grape#Seedless_grapes|Seedless grapes}} || Randall apparently subscribes to the theory that seeded grapes are tastier than unseeded grapes due to higher genetic diversity but are harder to eat because of the seeds. <br />
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| 68% || -100% || {{w|Pineapples}} || Requires a knife to prepare and can be tricky to dissect without wasting a lot of the fruit.<br />
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| 58% || 87% || {{w|Blueberries}} || Usually not listed as a fruit but as a {{w|berry}} although this is still a type of fruit.<br />
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| 38% || 42% || {{w|Cherries}} || Containing a stone/pit which may be annoying due to the disposal of the sticky remains and taking care not to swallow them.<br />
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| 37% || 66% || {{w|Pear}}s || Most people will not eat the core of the pear and is thus left with some sticky part that needs to be disposed of. <br />
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| 22% || 79% || {{w|Green apples}} || Most people will not eat the apple core and is thus left with some sticky part that needs to be disposed of. It is unclear why green apples are shown as tastier than red. <br />
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| 17% || 59% || {{w|Plums}} || Containing a stone/pit which may be annoying due to the disposal of the sticky remains and taking care not to swallow them.<br />
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| 15% || -20% || {{w|Watermelons}} || Surprisingly considered by Randall to be easier than oranges, which are fairly easy to peel. A watermelon is larger, so the effort to reward ratio is better, but this shouldn't affect its 'ease of eating' position. On the other hand, it is easy to cut a watermelon into edible pieces. You cannot cut an orange like this and they can sometimes be very difficult to peel and you will get very sticky when trying. This can be avoided with the watermelon.<br />
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| -12% || 79% || {{w|Apple|Red apples}} || Most people will not eat the apple core and is thus left with some sticky part that need to be disposed. It is unclear why green apples are shown as tastier than red; in his "What If?" book, Randall mentions a specific dislike of "red delicious" apples.<br />
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| -18% || 16% || {{w|Bananas}} || Shown in the chart as difficult to eat, even though they are among the most easily peeled fruit. This could be because of the skin which must be disposed of, or the stringy pith which some people refuse to eat and thus have to pick off. Also, you do have to peel it, which is not the case for the easier fruits. The difficulty could also relate to the different opinion of which end to open bananas in, which was the subject of the much later [[1982: Evangelism]], especially in the title text.<br />
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| -20% || -85% || {{w|Pomegranates}} || Pomegranates have a very large number of tart, juice-filled arils surrounded in inedible pith and a fairly tough skin. Retrieving the arils is notoriously messy.<br />
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| -46% || -49% || {{w|Oranges}} || Considered more difficult than lemons, perhaps due to the layer of pith which is rarely encountered when preparing lemons.<br />
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| -74% || 26% || {{w|Tomatoes}} || The culinary arts, nutritional sciences, and United States tax and customs regulations all treat tomatoes as a {{w|vegetable}}, mostly due to its taste. In the botanical sense, however, it is actually a fruit (specifically, a {{w|berry}}).<br />
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| -86% || -75% || {{w|Grapefruit}} || Grapefruits are very difficult fruit to peel, and thus eat. They are also deemed very untasty. ie. "Fuck grapefruit."<br />
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| -100% || -15% || {{w|Lemons}} || Considered easier than oranges, perhaps due to the layer of pith which is rarely encountered when preparing lemons. Very untasty in and of themselves; lemons are a common baking ingredient, but are so sour they are rarely eaten as a fruit.<br />
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| Unknown || Off Chart || {{w|Coconuts}} || Coconuts are incredibly difficult to open due to their hard outer shell. It is unclear what stance Randall has on the taste of Coconuts.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[An X-Y scatter plot of fruit where both axes have arrows in both ends. At the end of each arrow is a label.] <br />
:[The X-axis from left to right:]<br />
:Difficult<br />
:Easy<br />
:[The Y-axis from top to bottom:]<br />
:Tasty<br />
:Untasty<br />
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:[The fruit names are listed here below from top to bottom according to the how tasty the fruit is, not necessarily in the same order that the names are written if one fruit is tall/large and the other low:]<br />
:Peaches<br />
:Seeded grapes<br />
:Strawberries<br />
:Seedless grapes<br />
:Pineapples<br />
:Blueberries<br />
:Cherries<br />
:Pears<br />
:Green apples<br />
:Plums<br />
:Watermelons<br />
:Red apples<br />
:Bananas<br />
:Pomegranates<br />
:Oranges<br />
:Tomatoes<br />
:Grapefruit<br />
:Lemons<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
===Controversy===<br />
*As evident from the above section, and according to [http://blog.xkcd.com/2008/02/25/fruit-opinions/ FRUIT OPINIONS!] on the [http://blog.xkcd.com/ Blag], this was the most controversial comic written to this point, ''beating out comics about cunnilingus, the Obama endorsement, and my making 4chan tiny on the map of online communities''.<br />
**{{w|Cunnilingus}} see [[136: Science Fair]].<br />
**{{w|List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008|The Obama endorsement}} See [http://blog.xkcd.com/2008/01/28/obama/ Politics] also from the Blag. <br />
***The only comic mentioning {{w|Obama}} before this comic was [[360: Writers Strike]].<br />
**{{w|4chan}} is tiny on the map of the internet called [[256: Online Communities]]. (See the small island to the far right - left of "dragons" in the sentence ''Here there be anthropomorphic dragons''.)<br />
***Not to be confused with the comic that is actually named [[195: Map of the Internet]].<br />
*A later food taste comic [[1811: Best-Tasting Colors]] also generated a lot of [[Talk:1811: Best-Tasting Colors|talk on these pages]] (see more about it [[#Change of taste|below]]).<br />
**Similarly the [[Talk:1534: Beer|talk page]] for [[1534: Beer]] was also used a lot because Randall said he did not like beer. <br />
**So it seems that food is almost as sensitive as politics, although Randall's endorsement of {{w|Hillary Clinton}} in [[1756: I'm With Her]] the day before the {{w|United_States_presidential_election,_2016|presidential election in 2016}} where {{w|Donald Trump}} won, seems to have generated even more [[Talk:1756: I'm With Her|talk here]] than any food related comic.<br />
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===Change of taste===<br />
Later, in [[1811: Best-Tasting Colors]], Randall once again rates food taste in general but this time based on the color of the food. So not just fruit and nothing about how easy it is to eat. There are, however, several of the fruits from this chart included, but not grapefruit. Instead {{w|Concord grape|purple grapes}} is rated as the worst fruit on the chart with less than 1.5 on a scale from 1-9. This is interesting as he did not include those in this chart, but has rated green/white {{w|Table grape|grapes}} very high in tastiness. It seems like he has altered his taste over the nine years between releases since lemon which was the worst taste on this chart has moved up to 3/9 while Oranges have moved further down to a 2/9. Watermelon is also included (both for pink and green) with 6/9 making it seem better than in this chart. Green apples has also moved almost to the top with nearly 8/9 vs. only just above 50% here. Finally there is cherry (as good as the apple) and strawberry (8.5/9), which fits here for strawberry, but it seems like cherries has moved up a notch. Three fruits not included here are Lime (as lemon), and red and blue raspberries (5.5/9). But it turns out that the worst taste for Randall is not grape, but licorice at 1/9, with both popcorn and coffee worse than grape at about 1.5/9 . The best is cotton candy which beats strawberry by a nose.<br />
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I think the parts of the mountain that suddenly rise(s) refers to lava, smoke, ash, etc. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.102|162.158.122.102]] 07:53, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Looks to me that Randall got the chart wrong. Rockets go much faster than fireworks. Very large fireworks can go faster than the speed of sound on the order of a couple hundred miles per hour, https://www.fireworkscrazy.co.uk/blog/how-fast-are-fireworks/ <br />
But in order for rockets to go into orbit they have to reach speed in the thousands of miles per hour, http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/reference/basics/launch.html<br />
So the rocket ship should be to the left of the fireworks. <br />
Unless the initial acceleration of the firework is faster than the rocket. In other words for the first hundred or so feet, does the firework go faster than the rocket?<br />
Does anyone know that? [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 15:23, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Looking again, it seems that Randall is not talking about how fast the object rises, but how much time it takes to rise, hang and drift away. In other words how fast is the experience? In that case fireworks do follow the process of rising and hanging and drifting faster than a rocket does. So the experience takes less time (seconds) even though the rocket travels faster the whole process takes longer (minutes for blastoff and hours or days to return). [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 15:35, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I can't help but feel the explanation of the trees is a bit wrong. A tree will take anywhere from months to centuries to grow before it dies depending on the species. If the interest were in leaves the current description of them falling in Autumn would apply, but in that case the image of the tree would probably be something more specific to leaves. In fact, overall I think we might be over-reading the text about the majority of things Randall is interested in being things which rise up and drift in the wind. It's hard to say that is true of mountains, except in the most extreme cases. (Signed: Random anonymous coward. December 28, 2016)<br />
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Did anyone notice Randall’s mistake in subject‐verb agreement? “...parts of a slowly‐rising mountain suddenly rises.” It should be “parts...suddenly rise”. I don’t know if it’s worth mentioning in the article.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.89|108.162.246.89]] 19:04, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, it probably is worth mentioning.[[User:Mulan15262|Mulan15262]] ([[User talk:Mulan15262|talk]]) 14:53, 29 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I emailed him about that and he corrected it. The article should be changed to account for that (and probably a bit of trivia mentioning how it was corrected). [[Special:Contributions/162.158.18.16|162.158.18.16]] 13:31, 3 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I updated the title text in the comic accordingly and added a note in the explanation section for the title text fix. However, I'm new to this wiki and don't yet know how to add a trivia section for it. Can someone else help me out with that? --[[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 14:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::It's now moved to a new trivia section. Just for editors: The trivia section is below the transcript but above the <nowiki>{{comic discussion}}</nowiki> tag. Every part starts with an asterisk at the beginning of the line (list-item) but please avoid nested lists like it's often done here. And keep it short. Check the source for better understanding.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:04, 6 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::I looked at the source to see what you did. Thanks. --[[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 20:13, 6 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Does anyone else think that the rocket looks a lot like the Delta II? --</div>172.68.253.209https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1895:_Worrying_Scientist_Interviews&diff=146004Talk:1895: Worrying Scientist Interviews2017-09-28T01:52:26Z<p>172.68.253.209: Pointed out that ornithologists references Hitchcock's "The Birds"</p>
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Why not use Heliologist? :~) [[User:DarkJMKnight|DarkJMKnight]] ([[User talk:DarkJMKnight|talk]]) 14:49, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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If the sun is local breaking news, could be an impending dark age (solar activity destroying all technology) or a dark age (solar implosion/explosion/death). [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.5|162.158.79.5]] 15:42, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Why not use Heliologist? :~) [[User:DarkJMKnight|DarkJMKnight]] ([[User talk:DarkJMKnight|talk]]) 14:49, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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If the sun is local breaking news, could be an impending dark age (solar activity destroying all technology) or a dark age (solar implosion/explosion/death). [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.5|162.158.79.5]] 15:42, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: Destroying *''all''* technology would require something on the scale of a solar expansion (hydrogen exhaustion) Solar flares (even those strong enough to burn all life from the face of the Earth) still would not be sufficient to destroy subterranean shelters like NORAD. Only a total extinction event would be capable of destroying all technology. Even if 99.9% of all humans on Earth were killed off, there are very well secured (& insanely well funded) facilities which will survive any event short of total crust-upheaval, at least for a generation or so. Reverting to primitive lifestyle may possibly happen for a *''majority''* of humans, but modern military systems are such that some humans with tech are almost guaranteed to remain, no matter what terrible events occur. In other words, the wealthiest technocratic elite aren't going to die off any time soon. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.58.125|172.68.58.125]] 00:59, 28 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: Which makes me wonder why only a local reporter is covering the story. Sounds like a media beat-up. The joke appears to depend more on someone's imagination than on the actual news story. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.34|198.41.238.34]] 23:10, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Everyone else is dead except for the reporter who happens to be beret guy<br />
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Marine biologist is probably about oil spills or coral reefs/fish dying etc, rather than invasive species --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.209|141.101.99.209]] 16:18, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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The explanation for "ornithologist" uses "avian dinosaurs" instead of "birds." There's a link to the wikipedia page for birds, but it's still a potentially confusing inside joke. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.106|172.68.54.106]] 19:01, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
: The reference to "ornithologist" is almost certainly a reference to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birds_(film) Hitchcock's "The Birds"] [[Special:Contributions/172.68.253.209|172.68.253.209]] 01:52, 28 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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So, wait: worried about what the hell is so wrong with interviewers for them to actually want to talk to these kinds of researchers; or about what is happening to the world are we all going to die is it the end times? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.71|162.158.79.71]] 19:54, 27 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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The solar physicist would most likely be talking about an incoming solar flare, which could shut down the electric grid, satellites, and a bunch of other stuff, potentially within minutes, making it the most pressing of the issues. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.112|162.158.75.112]] 01:11, 28 September 2017 (UTC)</div>172.68.253.209https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1857:_Emoji_Movie&diff=1422121857: Emoji Movie2017-07-01T19:55:57Z<p>172.68.253.209: /* Explanation */</p>
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| number = 1857<br />
| date = June 30, 2017<br />
| title = Emoji Movie<br />
| image = emoji_movie.png<br />
| titletext = Some other studio should do the Antz/A Bug's Life thing and release The Dingbats Movie at the same time.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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[[Megan]] asks [[Cueball]] if he knows about the upcoming ''{{w|The Emoji Movie}}''. He replies by saying its not the worst section of {{w|Unicode}} to make a movie about. Megan then says she'd watch a movie about {{w|Combining Diacritical Marks}}. Cueball quips that this series would have too many characters. This is a pun on the word "character", which has the double meaning of a {{w|Character_(arts)|fictional character}}, or a {{w|Character (computing)|symbol which corresponds to a grapheme}} (e.g. letter, digit, punctuation mark). This is a reference to [[1647: Diacritics]] where Cueball gives an example of excessive use of combining diacritical marks. <br />
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Although part of Unicode contains emoji, emoji is not limited to Unicode since Unicode is only a standard so any device will display the same thing, be it letter, number, punctuation or symbol. Randall has also mentioned emoji in Unicode in [[1813: Vomiting Emoji]].<br />
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The "''{{w|Antz}}''/''{{w|A Bug's Life}}'' thing" refers to the {{w|twin films}} phenomenon, in which two films with very similar (or identical) concepts are released within roughly the same timeframe.{{w|Dingbat}}s (as opposed to the more familiar wingdings and webdings) were character sets used by typographers in box setting. ([[Randall]] could have picked a number of movies from the year of the two ant movies, 1998, for instance the pair ''{{w|Deep Impact (film)|Deep Impact}}''/''{{w|Armageddon (1998 film)|Armageddon}}'' are also clearly twins.)<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Megan and Cueball are walking together while Megan is looking at her smartphone.]<br />
:Megan: Did you see there's an emoji movie?<br />
:Cueball: If they have to make a movie about a section of Unicode, it's not the '''''worst''''' choice...<br />
:Megan: They should do a whole series. I would watch the ''Combining Diacritical Marks movie''.<br />
:Cueball: That series would have '''''way''''' too many characters.<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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