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Second comic in a row about space. The comic seems fairly self-explanatory to me, but the title text might need a bit more work to explain. I can't even figure out exactly what it means. Something about rushing to get the bare minimum done before the deadline? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.141.100|172.68.141.100]] 17:04, 18 March 2019 (UTC) <br />
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:I've added an explanation for the title text but am unsure of the "engineering standpoint". Maybe someone with knowledge in the area can elaborate on that. Is landing inherently more difficult than launching?[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.128|162.158.88.128]] 08:42, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: It makes sense from an engineering point-of-view because it tested if we can get things to the moon and that our math fits with something cheap and worthless. That cheap and worthless thing we threw at the moon? Nationalism [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.90|162.158.90.90]] 17:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Probably about how the engineers wanted to test what they could do before they could actually do it. (Oh,and Luna 2 impacted at 22 km/s) 20:10, 18 March 2019 (GMT)<br />
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OMG, the fake explanation is ROTFL funny! Hopefully whomever writes the correct explanation will keep this first bit of verbiage, just for the humor value, but in case that doesn’t happen, for those who don’t want to dig through the edit history, it currently says:<br />
:: “This comic describes one of the first faked moon missions, Luna II. The Communist sham was designed to make it look like the Moon was reachable by humans, in order to protect the threatened Zionist conspiracy.<br />
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::By discussing this as if it was fact, (((Randall))) is subtly reinforcing Jewish neuroprogramming causing people to believe in ridiculous child's fantasies like space unquestioningly.”<br />
(And to be crystal clear, I didn’t write it!) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.132|172.68.65.132]] 17:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm sorry, I fail so see how that explanation is in any way funny. It's just confusing and annoying. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.141.100|172.68.141.100]] 17:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:it’s not funny *now* because someone deleted it. Basically someone wrote an explanation as if the moon landings were faked, and extended the conspiracy theory to have USA and USSR cooperating on perpetuating the conspiracy because somehow it benefits Israel. It was clearly tongue-in-cheek, like when people claim that the Earth is flat. Given the recent anti-Semitic comments that have cropped up here I took it as an effort to make fun of those people (the ones posting bizarre stuff) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.132|172.68.65.132]] 17:35, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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::Alright, that's the part that wasn't clear to me. You can never really tell when someone online is being sarcastic. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.141.100|172.68.141.100]] 17:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC) <br />
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:::Depressingly, I don't think they're joking. I think they truly believe that space exploration is "fake", & that reaching the moon with a rocket is impossible, & that somehow almost the entire industrialized world is participating in some nonsensical "Jewish" conspiracy to maintain an illusion of space exploration. Even assuming that so many people & industries ''could'' maintain such a complex & widespread facade for multiple generations without reasonably verifiable evidence of its falsehood coming to light, I struggle to think of a good reason ''why'' so many people would knowingly participate in it without ever acting as a whistleblower. As I think perhaps an old xkcd once observed: If NASA really faked the moon landing, shouldn't they have faked a similarly momentous achievement by now? Anyway, ''I'' find it far more believable that a few wealthy people find it profitable to maintain a cadre of deluded obstructionists, than that all trans-orbital space travel is being faked. And speaking only for myself personally, I think Israel has terrible governmental policies & NASA could be doing a lot ''more'' grandiose space exploration but doesn't because there's not enough money in it yet. <br />
:::[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.82|108.162.216.82]] 20:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::Apollo missions with astronauts were NOT profitable (everything actually gained could've been done by robots). The only reason they were done were that USA wanted to do them before SSSR: it was question of national pride. Next grandiose space exploration will came either when USA will need to feel the pride again, possibly after Chinese land somewhere, or ... when US president will want to show how big d*ck he has. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:17, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::Hilarious how some people might actually believe this, but Explainxkcd isn't a place for people to shitpost. If you see things like this in an explanation just revert it immediately. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 22:22, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The actual sad part is it probably isn’t a joke. At least it’s a long and drawn out poorly constructed one. People are idiots, and flat earthers can be real. This person isn’t making fun of them. Not in a helpful way at the very least. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 14:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::What are you talking about. I looked it over again, and it's 100% definitely a joke shitpost. Whether you think it's funny or not is up to you, but it is definitely intended to be a joke. I've seen a lot of conspiracists, and this ain't one of them. [[User:CCCVVVA|CCCVVVA]] ([[User talk:CCCVVVA|talk]]) 08:10, 30 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::What I don't get is what anyone who subscribes to flat earth, "9/11 was an inside job", anti-vax, chemtrails, etc. would get out of a webcomic that features math and science prominently.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.58.83|172.68.58.83]] 16:23, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::A website full of people to troll and “debate”. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:47, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not sure how to tan on mobile (feel free to do so and delete this tidbit if you want to) but: The throwing a frag filled with flags is symbolic of the standard human explorer tactic. Basically, we tend to shoot first whenever we go to a new place and then promptly place a claim, whether the preexisting landscape has been claimed or not. For instance, the Native Americans. Like, all of them. The tile text, on the other hand, represents attempts to find a solution to half a problem or maybe representing the aforementioned claims bit. But I could be reading into this too much [[Special:Contributions/172.69.46.58|172.69.46.58]] 17:22, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I am using this website to share information, but several IP editors are consistently reverting my edits, even when I leave in their unsubstantiated claims. Help. {{unsigned|162.158.106.144}}<br />
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:I'm sorry, "sharing information"? I think you misspelled "vandalizing explanations, blatantly lying and spreading misinformation." Do you have anything better to do than vandalize a wiki and complaining about your shitposts being removed? Also, if you're going to leave comments like this at least make sure you have the courage to sign your comments. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 22:13, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:You should probably sign your posts to clarify who is having the problem. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.46.58|172.69.46.58]] 17:22, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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: What a wonderful pot-calling-the-kettle-black example: [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 05:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::A: Jews everything!<br />
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When I read the "it's on brand for us", I also interpreted into it, that we Humans tend to litter everything with our rubbish... [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.89|141.101.104.89]] 08:45, 20 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Does anyone here have links to evidence for or against Randall's claim in the title text? What was the impact speed? - [[User:Frankie|Frankie]] ([[User talk:Frankie|talk]]) 19:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
I mean if they weren't vaporized, how would we tell outside of flags randomly bumping into the ISS? All of the ones that go to Earth would burn up. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.78.28|172.68.78.28]] 19:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:If the impact was at 22 km/s, as stated above, that would be about 79,000 km/h, or about 49,000 mph. So... pretty fast? [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 20:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:That impact speed still sounds ridiculously high, Escape velocity to break free of earth orbit is, IIRC, 11.186 km/s (roughly 40K kmph or 25K mph), and it takes a massive rocket to achieve that. Most of a trans-lunar flight is unpowered using either momentum built up by the initial launch thrust or the gravitational pull of the moon itself. I find it hard to believe that impact speed, even allowing for gravitation influence of the moon itself, could result in an impact at almost 2X the speed needed to get away from Earth in the first place.[[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 07:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::22 km/s seems to be wrong. Wikipedia along with a few quick google searches put the impact speed at around 3 - 3.3 km/s. To me (far from an expert) that appears more realistic but still fast enough to cause significant damage. Whether things are literally vaporized at those speeds I leave for others to determine.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 11:31, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:The whole point of the "bomb" was to avoid all of the little "flags" (they actually contained the coat of arms) from being vaporized. The idea was to take a sphere, hurtling towards the moon at speed X - then to explode with an explosive speed of Y. The flags at the 'front' of the bomb would then be propelled towards the moon at speed (X+Y) but the ones at the 'back' would be moving at (X-Y)...it was hoped that this slowing down from the explosion would result in at least some of the flags arriving intact onto the lunar surface.<br />
:It's a very clever idea because it works even if the sphere is tumbling in some uncontrolled way...and it's VERY simple.<br />
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Anyone know why you can't get to this explain page from 2124 by way of menu bar/whatever it's called? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.74|172.69.22.74]] 21:21, 18 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Did you mean [[Talk:2124: Space Mission Hearing|the talk page of 2124]]? You can click on "Discussion" on top of page when you are at [[2124]]. I just checked and it worked fine. --[[Special:Contributions/103.22.200.210|103.22.200.210]] 01:37, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Or (as I suddenly realized) maybe you are asking to navigate from [[2124]] to [[2125]]. The "next>" button also worked fine as of this comment. --[[Special:Contributions/103.22.200.210|103.22.200.210]] 01:45, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: The "NEXT>" button from [[2124]] was missing for most of the day, but looks like someone eventually fixed it. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 13:39, 19 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== shrapnel Trivia ==<br />
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I disagree with the statement(s) in that section, or at least with the label "incorrect" -- it's at most "using the term loosely". The link provided goes to a "shrapnel '''''shell'''''", which is ''not'' quite the same thing as the idea of "shrapnel" anything. Having "pellets [launched] at a target" is sufficient IMO, even if in this case they are flags. As that page clearly says, <blockquote>The term "shrapnel" nowadays is often used to refer to lethal fragments of the casing of shells and bombs</blockquote> Language is fluid, and words evolve to have other meanings besides their original one. -- [[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.87|172.69.54.87]] 06:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)</div>172.69.54.87https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2129:_1921_Fact_Checker&diff=171802Talk:2129: 1921 Fact Checker2019-03-29T23:13:23Z<p>172.69.54.87: There is no such thing as a fuck not given</p>
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Two gallons of vinegar, huh?[[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.144|162.158.106.144]] 14:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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While I too respect this fact checker's perspective on what really matters (and what doesn't), it's clear to me that in this fact-obsessed 21st century we cannot let this purported fact go unverified. Get on it, people! ;) [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 14:32, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I fact checked this comic. The text in question is on page 8 of the newspaper, leftmost column, three paragraphs from the bottom. [[User:Billtheplatypus|Billtheplatypus]] ([[User talk:Billtheplatypus|talk]]) 15:12, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: [citation needed] The LOC link in the explanation says that the Kansas City Sun was a Saturday Weekly, so it wouldn't have been published on Friday, May 6th, 1921 as claimed. Unfortunately, the LOC only has scans of from 1914 through 1920, so it doesn't have scans for 1921. Do you have a source where you fact checked it? [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 15:39, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::[https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/477982773/ This]. You can get the OCR if you don't want to sign up. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.176|162.158.155.176]] 16:08, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: Off topic, but oldnewspapers are interesting. Especially the notices and lawsuit notifications, it's interesting to see that the newspaper notifications was considered enough notice that a judgement could be rendered. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.46.215|172.68.46.215]] 17:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This is still the case. For certain types of civil actions where the respondent's address is unknown and personal service is otherwise unavailable, notice through newspaper publication is sufficient. Larger cities in the US even have specialist legal newspapers that are primarily funded by payments for publishing these and other public notices.<br />
::: I think the explanation needs to clarify the dates here. There appear to be two different Kansas City Suns, one in Kansas, the other in Missouri. The Missouri one was a published from 1908-1924 and targeted the black community. The Kansas one was published at least from 1892 to 1924, and possibly longer (digitized issues up to 1924 are available online, which is also about when things start being still under copyright. Coincidence?). This fact check is in the Kansas paper. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 18:13, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Wouldn't "whatever" be not worth checking? "Mostly whatever" implies it could be worth checking but beyond current enthusiasm. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.41|141.101.99.41]] 15:29, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought corn travelling back from England to America was the problem... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.90|162.158.90.90]] 16:02, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: By 1620 there should've been plenty of time to establish some growing of maize in England. I don't know the real truth, but it's plausible. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.82|162.158.214.82]] 16:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Historically, "corn" was a general term for grain, usually the local grain. It also referred to things which where grain-sized, like the large grains of salt used to make "corned beef" or hard warts on the feet. It was only in North America where the predominant local grain was maize that "corn" came to have the narrower meaning of maize. If there really was a requirement to bring a supply of "cornmeal" in the early 1600's from England to the Americas, I'd expect it to be ground wheat, barleycorn, or rye, not maize. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 16:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: It's there any more information/sources on this? I find this interesting. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.46.215|172.68.46.215]] 17:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: Source: [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corn#Noun wiktionary], [https://www.google.com/search?q=dictionary+corn google's dictionary], and presumably any other English dictionary you might prefer. [[User:Zmatt|Zmatt]] ([[User talk:Zmatt|talk]]) 18:01, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::: Anyone interested in this kind of things? Well the angel-saxons which came from Germany to England (or Angelland, as it was called , after them). They brought many agricultural (and other) stuff and their german names for it. even though the spelling and/or pronounciation has developed differnetly often, there are still many parallels. Especially to older English. A German female pig is a "Sau", pronounced just as "sow", the german word for grain? "Korn", cow? "Kuh" (pronounced similarily). There are many more examples, but this are the ones coming to my mind instantly. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 14:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: Is this related to the corn mazes that I see on TV shows? Some kind of pun about maize mazes? I don't live in the US, I don't know a lot about that; I have only seen those in TV shows [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.58|162.158.78.58]] 03:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC) <br />
::: Oh, they really exist. I've encountered them in both New York and Maryland. We use to go to one as a "mandatory fun" day at my former employer. In fact, when I left my old job, my boss asked me if I wanted to stay an extra week to participate in the annual employee event. I asked him, "Does it involve corn?" and when I got a yes, I said no thanks. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.191|162.158.79.191]] 14:45, 28 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Blaisepascal is arguing that the article (or incomplete template) was, in fact, created by a BOT. Before starting an edit war, can I check the consensus on what we do with the created by? I always use the [relevant item]. [[User:Jacky720|That's right, Jacky720 just signed this]] ([[User talk:Jacky720|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacky720|contribs]]) 19:53, 27 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: I've seen it both ways, although keeping the BOT part would be less common. It works as is; I wouldn't change it. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.141.148|172.68.141.148]] 07:48, 28 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
I was looking at http://mayflowerhistory.com/provision-lists that discusses some lists of items that the pilgrims were to take with them. This sounds related to what was discussed in the text from the newspaper. 14:08, 29 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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In this age of fanatism and factionism of all kinds, Randall could't be more wrong. Ask Swift's Endians. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.87|172.69.54.87]] 23:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)</div>172.69.54.87https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170594Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-06T10:05:12Z<p>172.69.54.87: /* Randalls favorite video orientation */ new section</p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:that never would have happened with a circular screen ~ ocæon 01:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think the 50x150 view comment is right. I'd suggest removing it or backing it up with a source. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.16|162.158.146.16]] 23:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
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:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, just '''revert''', do not try to edit it out or you'll miss some little bit stuffed here or there - but look at the revision history before to check out if someone haven't added useful stuff in between troll's edits. In this case you need to edit it out, just be careful. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.150|162.158.90.150]] 17:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Please no censorship on comments like this in a talk page unless it's really vandalism. I have reverted the two "deleted troll stuff" remarks back to the original. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:With the language being used, the comments were, indeed, vandalism. Re-removed them.<br />
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==Table==<br />
may the pro con table be replicated and expanded upon? the realworld aplications of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular screens would be comparable the same way. ocæon 01:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
: so my first contibution and i screwed up formatting, heh, i have no clues to fixing that.. anyway angular filming with cameras goes well beyond dutchy, nobody else remember early handheld rap music videos? and circular screens also gave a pro which is not yet noted at all please don't make me add it! ocæon 18:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
::You did start your first line with a space which formats the text as a quote. And please sign your comments with at least <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the sign button at the top of the editor. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"I'm not turning my phone sideways" -- seems like someone never plays any games on his phone. Heck, even docs and sheets are better in horizontal orientation than vertical orientation. As for the "don't trust anyone speaking from inside a circle," it made me think of (1) the little peepholes on doorways to see who's out there and (2) The Oval Office. While that's not technically a circle, it's somewhat related... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.153|162.158.74.153]] 08:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"The title text quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle" Oh really? You know this how? Google certainly didn't show anything like that; indeed, there was a lot about "circle of trust" and I don't trust this comment. I'd say [citation needed] or change it to "circle of trust". ( DON'T CENSOR ME, MAN! ;^) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.70|162.158.214.70]] 11:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Randalls favorite video orientation ==<br />
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What makes people think he likes the horizontal orientation more? Looking at the comic it seems to me he likes the vertical orientation more. --[[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.87|172.69.54.87]] 10:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)</div>172.69.54.87https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2108:_Carbonated_Beverage_Language_Map&diff=1693042108: Carbonated Beverage Language Map2019-02-07T18:39:09Z<p>172.69.54.87: /* "medicine" might be a humorous or serious reference to Vernor's. I'm from Detroit; I know this from years of personal experience. */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2108<br />
| date = February 6, 2019<br />
| title = Carbonated Beverage Language Map<br />
| image = carbonated_beverage_language_map.png<br />
| titletext = There's one person in Missouri who says "carbo bev" who the entire rest of the country HATES.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by a COMMUNIST SHILL. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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In the US, people in various parts of the country refer to carbonated beverages by {{w|Names for soft drinks in the United States|different names}} such as Soda, Pop, Coke, etc. Generally, the West Coast and Northeast say "Soda", the South says "Coke" and the rest of the country says "Pop".<br />
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There are various maps of the name differences, including: [http://www.popvssoda.com/]<br />
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This map leverages xkcd's mockery-maps of regional and state-by-state differences or variations in the use of language and overlays the regional variances in the terms for soda pop (for example: https://laughingsquid.com/soda-pop-or-coke-maps-of-regional-dialect-variation-in-the-united-states/), as was made trending and popular in 2013. Not only are there far more terms than are actually used by Americans, many are terms for other drinks (mead), unrelated liquids (quicksilver), or trademarked beverage names less popular than {{w|Coca Cola|Coke}}/{{w|Coca Cola}} ({{w|Mountain Dew|Code Red}}) -- and in one case, something that's not even tangible ({{w|cryptocurrency|"Crypto"}}).<br />
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{| class="wikitable"<br />
|+Map terms (from left to right, approximately)<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Fanta}}<br />
|Name of a carbonated beverage line<br />
|-<br />
|Söde<br />
|Presumably pronounced "soda" but spelled oddly (might be reference to ''{{w|Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail}}'' subtitles - "Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yër?")<br />
|-<br />
|True Water<br />
|Possibly a reference to Tru Blood, a fictional artificial blood substitute for vampires in ''{{w|The Southern Vampire Mysteries}}'' book series by Charlaine Harris, and the television series ''{{w|True Blood}}''. Also could be a reference to "purified" mineral waters such as {{w|Glaceau Smartwater|Smartwater}}.<br />
|-<br />
|Crypto<br />
|A term meaning "hidden", referring to how this comic has been designed by the hidden Jewish communist conspiracy. Popularized as a slang term in the late '80s and early '90s to refer to anything involving the act of encryption/decryption {{w|cryptography}} through the application of ciphers, a practice which has become practically ubiquitous in the digital age. Given the highlighted region is the Silicon Valley, this is almost certainly a specific reference to {{w|cryptocurrency}}. None of these concepts are liquid and therefore not drinkable. Possibly a joke that the residents of Silicon Valley are actually computers that "drink" crypto (i.e. data).<br />
|-<br />
|Yum<br />
|Refers to {{w|Yum! Brands}}, parent company of several fast food restaurants, which was spun off from PepsiCo, maker of a carbonated beverage, in 1997, and has a lifetime contract to serve their beverages.<br />
|-<br />
|Sparkle Fluid<br />
|Roughly analogously to how "sparkling wine" and "sparkling cider" are carbonated varieties of wine and cider, "sparkling fluid" or "sparkle fluid" would presumably be any carbonated fluid<br />
|-<br />
|King Cola<br />
|Name of a carbonated beverage<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Pepsi}}<br />
|Name of a carbonated beverage<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Crystal Pepsi}}<br />
|Name of a carbonated beverage<br />
|-<br />
|Ichor<br />
|Several definitions (blood of a god (or demon, or, in some dialects, any insect) or watery discharge from a wound). None of them carbonated. None of them recommended as a drinkable liquid. (Well, not by someone with your best interests at heart.{{Citation needed}})<br />
|-<br />
|You-Know-What<br />
|A phrase typically employed when a more specific term is considered unspeakable or taboo. Reference to Harry Potter and You-Know-Who<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Tab (drink)|Tab}}<br />
|Name of a carbonated beverage<br />
|-<br />
|Spicewater<br />
|Thought to be a reference to the spice from ''Dune''. In actuality, probably refers to Passover, referencing Randall's Jewish origins.<br />
|-<br />
|Softie<br />
|Short for soft drink. On the map, it looks like the region for Softie is taking a punch from the region for Punch<br />
|-<br />
|Ohio Tea<br />
|The area in question covers much of Arizona, the namesake of {{w|Arizona Beverage Company|Arizona Iced Tea}}, itself a non-carbonated beverage. This implies that residents of Arizona view carbonated beverages as something that comes from Ohio, and thus they place Ohio’s name before the word "Tea” to indicate its carbonated state.<br />
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Could also refer to [https://youtu.be/0_XAPku7SgE?t=30 "...bubbling crude. Oil that is, black gold, '''Texas tea'''.]<br />
|-<br />
|Boat Drink<br />
|A reference to the song {{w|Boat Drinks|Boat Drinks}} by {{w|Jimmy Buffett|Jimmy Buffett}}.<br />
|-<br />
|Melt<br />
|Usually used to describe a kind of sandwich where cheese is melted in the center, usually on a griddle. Possibly a play on {{w|malt drink}} Or maybe just a way to say "no, the *melted* ice"<br />
|-<br />
|Fizz Ooze<br />
|The shortened name of the book "Fizz, Foam, Splatter & Ooze" about chemical reactions.<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Punch (drink)|Punch}}<br />
|A drink typically found in the juice aisle. Only sometimes carbonated. It's also a pun on the word punch, meaning to hit something, and on the map it looks like the region for Punch is literally punching the region for Softie.<br />
|-<br />
|Fun Wine<br />
|Implies that normal wine is not "fun". Might be an allusion to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerwine Cheerwine], a carbonated drink from the Southeast.<br />
|-<br />
|Diet<br />
|Sometimes refers to a carbonated beverage. A common request in restaurants, as they often only have a single "{{w|Diet drink|diet soda}}" option for customers to pick. <br />
|-<br />
|Refill<br />
|A subsequent glass of whatever you drank previously. Works for any drinkable liquid.<br />
|-<br />
|Tickle Juice<br />
|Name of a Boston-based jazz band. <br />
|-<br />
|Bubble Honey<br />
|Reversed name of the Honey Bubble Tea brand. https://honeybubbletea.com<br />
|-<br />
|Sugar Oil<br />
|Some sodas do contain oils such as palm oil. The areas of Oklahoma and north Texas that are shaded produce a significant amount of {{w|petroleum|crude oil}}.<br />
|-<br />
|The Wet Drink<br />
|Technically true of all drinks, unless one is attempting to drink sand (or anhydrous fluids - of which the least harmful may be clarified butter). It may also refer to the fact that many advertisements for carbonated beverages attempt to make the product look more appetizing by photographing or filming a beverage container covered with water droplets.<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Mountain Dew|Code Red}}<br />
|Name of a carbonated beverage<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Mead}}<br />
|An alcoholic drink. Traditionally not carbonated. Often associated with Vikings, and these areas did have many Scandinavian immigrants.<br />
|-<br />
|Canadian Ale<br />
|Probably a reference to the {{w|Canada Dry}} brand of {{w|Ginger Ale}}, a non-alcoholic carbonated beverage.<br />
|-<br />
|Aether<br />
|Could refer to a highly flammable industrial solvent, also used as an anesthetic. Do not drink. Also, not carbonated. Alternately, could refer to the nonexistent fluid that was believed to carry light waves before electromagnetism was fully understood, or poetically to the sky; in either case it is not a drinkable liquid (or carbonated).<br />
|-<br />
|Carbonated Beverage<br />
|Technically correct, but a bit of an awkward term due to its unnecessary length.<br />
|-<br />
|Mouthwater<br />
|A play on the term "mouth watering" to describe delicious foods and drinks.<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Capri Sun|Capri}}<br />
|Capri Sun is a brand of juice drinks, typically sold in uncarbonated pouches.<br />
|-<br />
|Skim Shake<br />
|A shortened name of the beverage "Skim Milkshake"<br />
|-<br />
|Kid's Coffee<br />
|Somewhat accurate. Coffee is typically drunk by adults for its caffeine. Carbonated beverages often have caffeine (in addition to various suggestibility-increasing drugs used by the Jews to influence children) also, and are often consumed by children.<br />
|-<br />
|Regular<br />
|In the past, referred to gasoline with lead, as opposed to "Unleaded". Not a drinkable liquid, and also outlawed. Could refer to regular (as opposed to decaf) coffee. Could refer to regular, with sugar (as opposed to diet), soda.<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Tang (drink)|Tang}}<br />
|An orange flavored beverage containing less than 2% juice extract. Normally sold in powdered form, and not carbonated.<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Infant formula|Formula}}<br />
|Typically refers to an artificial replacement for mother's milk. Not carbonated.<br />
|-<br />
|Medicine<br />
|This may be a reference to {{w|Vernors}} Ginger Ale, originally produced in Detroit, which is sometimes used as a folk remedy for an upset stomach. <br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Broth}}<br />
|Liquid in which bones, meat, fish, or vegetables have simmered. Often used as a soup base. Not carbonated.<br />
|-<br />
|Fool's Champagne<br />
|Carbonated beverage is to champagne what fool's gold is to gold.<br />
|-<br />
|Sugar Milk<br />
|This may be a reference to dairy, but in this region of the US people drink a popular carbonated beverage called {{w|Moxie}} that is less familiar to people elsewhere.<br />
|-<br />
|No word for them<br />
|This region of the US does not have a word for carbonated beverages (according to Randall). Possibly they do not drink them at all.<br />
|-<br />
|Hydro<br />
|A word for water. Carbonated water does exist, but this word means all forms of water. Possibly a reference to the film {{w|Waterworld}}, in which "hydro" is the common term for (scarce and valuable) drinkable water.<br />
|-<br />
|Harvard Tea<br />
|The region shaded this way includes {{w|Cambridge, Massachusetts}}, which is home to {{w|Harvard University}}.<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Drinking fountain|Bubbler}}<br />
|A nod to another popular map of the same type, exploring the regional dialects used to describe drinking fountains. Rhode Island and the eastern portion of Wisconsin are the only two locations where 'Bubbler' is commonly used to refer to drinking fountains, but the word is commonly used in surrounding areas to depict the strong variety of {{w|Rhoticity_in_English|rhoticity}} present, some saying 'bubblah' in for example Boston, and others saying 'water fountain'.<br />
|-<br />
|Mouthbuzz<br />
|Perhaps referring to the feeling of drinking a carbonated drink, where the releasing carbonation almost 'buzzes' in the mouth.<br />
|-<br />
|Brad's Elixer<br />
|Possibly a reference to "Brad's Drink", the original name for {{w|Pepsi}} when it was invented by Caleb Bradham in 1893. The word "elixir" is defined as "a sweetened liquid usually containing alcohol that is used in medication either for its medicinal ingredients or as a flavoring", but it is misspelled here as "elixer".<br />
|-<br />
|Hot Water<br />
|Not carbonated. Not even in Jacuzzi and hot tubs. May reference how boiled water forms bubbles before it actually comes to a boil.<br />
|-<br />
|Fluid<br />
|A word that means nearly any liquid or gas in existence. Not specific to carbonated beverages.<br />
|-<br />
|{{w|Coke Zero}}<br />
|Name of a carbonated beverage.<br />
|-<br />
|Carbo<br />
|Sodas sweetened with corn syrup or cane sugar are high in carbohydrates. Could also refer to carbonation.<br />
|-<br />
|Quicksilver<br />
|An old term for the element mercury, a metallic liquid in its pure form at room temperature.<br />
|-<br />
|Glug<br />
|Onomatopoeia, referring to the sound of swallowing a large amount of liquid. Or possibly referring to {{w|Gl&ouml;gi|gl&ouml;gg}} (pronounced "glug"), a Swedish drink similar to mulled wine.<br />
|-<br />
|Water Plus<br />
|Technically the name of {{w|Water Plus|a British water retail services provider}}, this likely refers to the prevalence of "plus" as a preposition in branding nomenclature (e.g.: {{w|Google+}}, {{w|iPhone 8 Plus}}, {{w|7 Up Plus}}, etc.). Also reminiscent of "Milk Plus," the drugged milk from the movie A Clockwork Orange.<br />
|}<br />
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The title text may be a wry comment in light of the pocket of "soda" in the St. Louis, MO area.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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:[A map of the United States divided into purple, red, green, blue, and yellow colored regions.]<br />
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:[A purple area in North West Washington.]<br />
:Fanta<br />
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:[A blue area spanning the Western border of Washington and Oregon.]<br />
:Söde<br />
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:[A yellow area spanning the remainder of Washington, North Western Oregon, Northern Idaho and the North Western corner of Montana.]<br />
:Ichor<br />
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:[A yellow area corresponding to Hawaii except for the island of O'ahu.]<br />
:Pepsi<br />
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:[A red area corresponding to the Hawaiian island of O'ahu.]<br />
:Crystal Pepsi<br />
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:[A green area spanning the North Eastern corner of Oregon, central Idaho and the majority of Montana.]<br />
:Spicewater<br />
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:[A blue area spanning Eastern Montana, the North Eastern corner of Wyoming and the majority of North and South Dakota.]<br />
:Refill<br />
<br />
:[A red area spanning Eastern North and South Dakota, the majority of Minnesota, Northern Wisconsin and Michigan North of the lakes.]<br />
:Mead<br />
<br />
:[A green area spanning the border between Minnesota and Wisconsin.]<br />
:Canadian Ale<br />
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:[A yellow area spanning the South Eastern corner of Minnesota, the North Eastern corner of Iowa and the majority of Wisconsin.]<br />
:Aether<br />
<br />
:[A green area in North East Wisconsin.]<br />
:Mouthwater<br />
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:[A purple area covering most of Michigan south of the lakes.]<br />
:Kid's coffee<br />
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:[A red area covering Northeast & central New York.]<br />
:Hydro<br />
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:[A green area covering Vermont and spanning the border with New York.]<br />
:[No word for them]<br />
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:[A yellow area covering Maine and the majority of New Hampshire.]<br />
:Sugar milk<br />
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:[A red area spanning Eastern Massachusetts and the border with New Hampshire.]<br />
:Harvard tea<br />
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:[A blue area covering Rhode Island and spanning Eastern Connecticut, central Massachusetts and the South West corner of New Hampshire.]<br />
:Bubbler<br />
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:[A yellow area spanning the South Eastern corner of New York, the South Western corner of Massachusetts, Western Connecticut and Northern New Jersey.]<br />
:Mouth Buzz<br />
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