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− | == | + | == X11 Title Text Explanation == |
− | I | + | In my absence was it finally decided forever and always how title text explanations would be handled? I can't find a discussion in the Community Portal, if you have a link I'd be interested to come up to speed on the current editing policies. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC) |
− | : | + | :A BIG problem is here still that there are NO editing policies in general. I'm just following the main "feel and look". In standard explains the title text is just at the bottom of the explain, and trivia goes after transcript. You are an admin here and maybe you should talk to [[User:Davidy22]]. In general I think that X11 still needs a better layout. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC) |
− | + | ::Ok. I had wondered about that. My personal policy, when I was an active editor a year ago, was once a title text explanation is longer than 2 paragraphs it should get it's own subsection. I'll have to get a dialogue started with Davidy about it once more. | |
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− | + | ::So you know, the English phrase is "look and feel". I know English isn't your first language, I just wanted to correct you on that. If I tried typing in German, I'd probably embarrass myself, and you'd have to help me. | |
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− | = | + | ::[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 23:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC) |
− | I'm | + | :::I'm happy about your latest actions here! And of course I did mix it up, it's "look and feel" and a translation of my former mistake could lead into some problems. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 01:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC) |
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− | == | + | == [[1052]] == |
− | + | Think you may have marked this as complete a smidgen early - it needed a bit of cleanup, and a few more tweaks (the joke about theology wasn't explained, really). I've done it now, though. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.235|141.101.99.235]] 16:40, 10 January 2014 (UTC) | |
− | : | + | :You are welcome to enhance this explain, but in general it's not incomplete any more. If you feel the explain is still incomplete just add the tag again and provide a reason. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC) |
− | :: | + | ::Eh, I got it. It was just a couple little things - the Ontological Argument joke, and such. I suppose, though, that "I had intended to do more work on it" isn't really an argument against removing it, is it? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.235|141.101.99.235]] 18:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC) |
− | ::: | + | :::And I'm very happy if you still can enhance this explain. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC) |
− | == | + | == Cthulhu and Azathoth ([[1040]]) == |
− | + | I can only presume you haven't read Lovecraft, but those are the best known sealed-away gods in modern literature. Cthulhu is supposed to live in the extreme depths, Azathoth beyond time, surrounded by insane pipers. They're a far better explanation than the Harry Potter one which is far, far more tangental - it sings in a bath, and contains nothing that could escape - but you're leaving in. | |
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− | + | I doubt there's a precise reference being made to ''anything'' in the comic, but Cthulhu and other Lovecraftian Gods are the overwhelmingly likely inspiration. Unless someone has a better explanation. I suppose one could discuss The Abyss as well. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.235|141.101.99.235]] 11:27, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |
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− | + | :I disagree, this comic contains only REAL things. This is NO horror fiction. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |
+ | ::The door at the bottom of the Marinas Trench is real now? James Cameron really released something on the world because he was distracted by its beautiful music? I think you've missed the actual context of the specific discussion. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.235|141.101.99.235]] 11:36, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
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− | == | + | == Downtime == |
+ | Next time you see errors, could you post the output of [http://explainxkcd.com/cdn-cgi/trace this link] somewhere? '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 08:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :I will do so, but currently there are no problems. It's working great. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 08:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Actually, could you get me the output to that file currently for now? And again in the future if downtime ever does occur. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::Currently I'm on a leased line at a different provider than at home. But I will document my dynamic DSL connections and provide some information here soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 09:36, 22 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
− | + | Here we are, I'm online here via "webproxy.ca" right now. My route from Germany to explainxkcd stops somewhere in Chicago (Illinois) in the US [http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=69.22.139.202]: | |
− | + | traceroute to www.explainxkcd.com (108.162.198.131), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets | |
+ | ... | ||
+ | 3 f-ed4-i.F.DE.NET.DTAG.DE (62.154.14.130) 17.008 ms 17.956 ms 19.323 ms | ||
+ | 4 80.157.128.230 (80.157.128.230) 20.428 ms * * | ||
+ | 5 xe-1-1-3.r20.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.221) 24.298 ms 25.328 ms 26.540 ms | ||
+ | 6 ae-1.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.179) 34.319 ms 17.730 ms 17.855 ms | ||
+ | 7 ae-1.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.147) 18.859 ms 20.572 ms 21.711 ms | ||
+ | 8 xe-4-0-5.ar1.ams3.nl.nlayer.net (69.22.139.202) 21.740 ms * * | ||
+ | 9 * * * | ||
+ | 10 * * * | ||
+ | .......... | ||
− | + | And WHOIS gives me this result (excerpt): | |
+ | Domain Name: NLAYER.NET | ||
+ | Registry Domain ID: NA | ||
+ | Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com | ||
+ | Registrar URL: www.enom.com | ||
+ | Creation Date: 2002-12-25 17:52:16Z | ||
+ | Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-12-25 22:52:00Z | ||
+ | Registrar: ENOM, INC. | ||
+ | Registrar IANA ID: 48 | ||
+ | Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at enom.com | ||
+ | Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252744500 | ||
+ | Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited | ||
+ | Registry Registrant ID: | ||
+ | Registrant Name: GTT ICT | ||
+ | Registrant Organization: GTT | ||
+ | Registrant Street: 8484 WESTPARK DR | ||
+ | Registrant City: MCLEAN | ||
+ | Registrant State/Province: VA | ||
+ | Registrant Postal Code: 22102 | ||
+ | Registrant Country: US | ||
+ | Registrant Phone: 1. 1.7034425500 | ||
+ | Registrant Phone Ext: | ||
+ | Registrant Fax: 1. | ||
+ | Registrant Fax Ext: | ||
+ | Registrant Email: ICT@GT-T.NET | ||
− | + | At this time I even don't get an error message, my browser is loading... and loading... What is it? I'm reaching the US from Germany but then it stops. A Proxy from Canada works well, what the hell??? NSA or CIA or what? Maybe a Webhoster outside of the US would be better. 22:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)~ dgbrt | |
+ | :Uh, it'd be nice if you could also post the results from the link I posted. We kinda need that for troubleshooting the actual server issues. And if you could do it via the setup that you suffered the server issues under, that would be helpful. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:05, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::I don't think this is helpful, you just see my proxy is located in Toronto: | ||
+ | fl=15f13 | ||
+ | h=explainxkcd.com | ||
+ | ip=192.95.59.247 | ||
+ | ts=1390768261.007 | ||
+ | visit_scheme=http | ||
+ | uag=Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 | ||
+ | colo=DFW | ||
+ | spdy=off | ||
+ | ::Much more important is this. My route to this site still stops somewhere in the US (69.22.139.202) | ||
+ | traceroute to www.explainxkcd.com (108.162.198.131), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets | ||
+ | ...... | ||
+ | 5 xe-1-1-3.r20.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.221) 25.018 ms 25.705 ms 26.915 ms | ||
+ | 6 ae-1.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.179) 40.023 ms 18.255 ms 17.291 ms | ||
+ | 7 ae-1.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.147) 18.708 ms 19.898 ms 26.766 ms | ||
+ | 8 xe-4-0-5.ar1.ams3.nl.nlayer.net (69.22.139.202) 22.642 ms 23.760 ms 25.257 ms | ||
+ | 9 * * * | ||
+ | 10 * * * | ||
+ | 11 * * * | ||
+ | 12 * * * | ||
+ | ...... | ||
+ | ::And uhh, I can't reach your link from home. Just because I cannot connect this site without a proxy. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:46, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::More important: '''My BOT will not work''' until this is fixed. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:22, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::::Try using Google DNS. That looks like an ISP issue. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 22:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
− | + | Holy crab, I'm back from a three day business trip. I did figure it out, it wasn't an ISP issue at all, it was just a remain at my local configuration attempting to avoid former problems. I was looking on this problem everywhere, but not at my own manual overwrites. Shame on me, Human Error. But this error is still much better than a BOT Error; so I'm hoping my BOT will behave on Friday again like it should do. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC) | |
− | + | :My crab, ehh.. bot should perform as before. My sweet eight legged animal did fail, caused by some former chaos here. I'm hoping that future updates will perform as before, even if an update is late. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:26, 30 January 2014 (UTC) | |
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− | == | + | == Original transcripts == |
− | + | Where can I find the original xkcd transcripts? <small>[[User:MrGameZone|0100011101100001011011010110010101011010011011110110111001100101]] ([[User talk:MrGameZone|talk page]])</small> 23:32, 7 February 2014 (UTC) | |
+ | :Look at the HTML source. There is a DIV-tag named "transcript", often, but not always Randall provides a hidden transcript here. And sometimes there are deeper information, helpful for explain. | ||
+ | :I'm using Firefox and the Add-On "Stylish" to show me this content at the comic page itself. The code is: | ||
+ | @namespace url(<nowiki>http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml</nowiki>); | ||
+ | @-moz-document domain("xkcd.com") { | ||
+ | #transcript { | ||
+ | display: block !important; | ||
+ | font-variant: normal !important; | ||
+ | } | ||
+ | } | ||
+ | :--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:19, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Thank you, now I can see the transcripts. <small>[[User:MrGameZone|0100011101100001011011010110010101011010011011110110111001100101]] ([[User talk:MrGameZone|talk page]])</small> 18:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::I'm happy if I can help. And shame on me, I did forget to sign my former post.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:19, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
− | + | == Undo button == | |
+ | The undo button gives you the version of the page prior to the edit that you hit undo on. When you disagree with one part of an edit, hitting the undo button reverts everything else as well. Don't default to the undo button unless you're absolutely sure that the entire edit is bad. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :I'm using the Undo Button only when I do know what I do delete. That's similar to an update here, I'm still trying to avoid an "edit conflict" here. But some actions here don't make me happy here, I don't know if my actions here are welcome. I don't need a thanks, but the latest GIFs were done by my BOT — that main table would not work without my work. My Undo is mostly done on an another Undo without any given reason, if there was a reason I do reply in a proper manner.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 00:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::There's been a fair few cases in the past and with this particular case where you've defaulted to autoreverting an edit when the edit button would have sufficed. Disagreements need not be made personal; it is possible for a disagreement to occur without assuming insult. I track recent changes for vandalism/peacekeeping/comment signing duties and while I don't tend to interfere that often with daily happenings, I have noticed that a healthy portion of arguments have included you. Swearing isn't a strictly appropriate response to a user removing an incomplete tag or rewriting an explanation, even if you strongly disagree with it. try to avoid defaulting to arguing. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:28, 19 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::Uhh, I'm back after two days — no time... I don't know if I can check all the recent changes, but I will give a try on the most important ones. The 1331 Frequency table is the first. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:57, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
− | + | == Übersetzungen in Deutsch - Translations to German == | |
− | :: | + | This is a call for help (in German and English): |
+ | :DE: Ich versuche die Startseite mit allen Templates zu übersetzen, ist nicht einfach und vielleicht gibt es ja Leute die helfen können. | ||
+ | :EN: I'm trying to translate the main page into German — including all that templates. That's not an easy task, but maybe someone can help. | ||
+ | --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:27, 22 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
− | == | + | == When == |
+ | Hi Dgbrt. This is just a question for my personal curiosity. After seeing [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Randall_Munroe&diff=58669&oldid=51439 this edit], I started wondering whether the use of "when" in that sentence was due to you being a native German speaker. I'm asking because I follow a blog by a Dutch guy who also uses "when" all the time, in sentences where it would make more sense to use "if" instead. Does the equivalent to "when" have extra meanings in Dutch and/or German, outside of the English time-based meaning?<br/> | ||
+ | Cheers, [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:08, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :Hi Waldir, "if" is more a question about an issue while "when" is more about time. I'm not native English but I'm still trying to learn — Google gives me "if" as "indien" in dutch, and "when" as "wanneer". Since I do know {{w|Plattdeutsch}} I do know many funny misunderstandings belonging even on this simple word. A hurt in English is a pain, in Dutch it is a "pijn", but in German the word "peinlich" doesn't match this meanings at all. I'm doing mistakes on understanding languages, but I still have many fun on exploring. Don't know if (<-NOT WHEN) I did answer your question. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:46, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
− | + | : Although "when" is "wenn" in German and "if" is "falls", it is very common to use "wenn" for both meanings. Therefore, many Germans (including me) tend to use "when" even <del>when</del><ins>if</ins> they mean "if". Although I don't speak Dutch, I know that it is very similar to German, so it might be the same issue. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.196|108.162.254.196]] 14:57, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |
− | + | ::Using "when" is often a {{w|false friend}} used by Germans, like I did before. In German "wenn" means "when", "if", and more in English; so you have to care about those different words in English. I'm still happy to learn more about the English language, in general it's believed to be more simple than German. But in my opinion this just means that English is much more precise and shorter. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:17, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |
− | + | ::: Thanks guys for the explanations, they were both enlightening and amusing! I just want to clarify that sometimes it ''is'' acceptable to use "when" in English to refer to a general condition rather than a strictly time-based one (as it seems to be the case in German), but the distinction may be subtler/stricter than in German. [http://english.stackexchange.com/a/35164/10804 This answer] explains it well, I think: "If you say 'when' something happens, you imply it definitely will happen, even if the precise timing is unknown. You use 'if' when (!) there's uncertainty about whether the event will happen at all." --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |
− | + | ==Thanks!== | |
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− | + | Hi! Despite our slight disagreement regarding the alt text explanation over "Purity", I did want to thank you for going over some of my edits and cleaning them up. The link format here is slightly different than what I'm used to, and it screwed me up. As well, I tend to overuse parenthesis. Don't feel bad about proofreading my edits - I do appreciate it. | |
− | + | If you're confused as to my objection over Purity, I've left a note on the talk page for that comic explaining why I feel what existed before is not sufficient. [[User:Jetman123|Jetman123]] ([[User talk:Jetman123|talk]]) 13:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC) | |
− | : | + | :I appreciate your thanks. My answer on that specific title text is here: [[Talk:435: Purity]] --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:47, 10 March 2014 (UTC) |
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− | + | A translation isn't easy at all, my local German page is still mostly in English. It's not easy to figure out the important tamplates, but I did some more enhancements — if the general page does work, the remaining work only belongs to translation (not easy at all). | |
− | + | I think we should start this soon, and because even German people do know English as well there is no need to translate it all. Sometimes just a hint gives a shot. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC) | |
− | === | + | == Your Undo == |
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− | + | On my talk page, you undid my deletion of a user's message. The reason I deleted the message in the first place was that it wasn't meant for me in particular, but meant to be placed in the discussion for [[1351]]. One reason I think that this was meant to be in that discussion is because this is a) the first time metamaterials were mentioned in xkcd (as far as I know); b) the user said "can anybody link" in their message, asking anybody in particular to help. I doubt people check my talk page for a discussion of an xkcd; and c) I did not start, nor join, nor end any discussion about metamaterials and their validity. | |
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− | + | So... I'm just asking if you consider it valid to delete it, or if, in your opinion, I should leave it there (I have already added their (exact) words to the discussion for the comic, so that is already there). | |
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