1534: Beer - Revision history

82.132.247.29: Undo revision 380451 by 2603:6010:A400:C04C:57A5:6020:1EC0:8FBF (talk) You, sir/madam, are a twat.

2025-06-26T01:14:51Z

Undo revision 380451 by 2603:6010:A400:C04C:57A5:6020:1EC0:8FBF (talk) You, sir/madam, are a twat.

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2025-06-25T23:43:07Z

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Tromag at 15:06, 24 July 2024

2024-07-24T15:06:23Z

162.158.38.13: Someone didn't even read what they were changing...

2024-06-07T22:11:20Z

Someone didn't even read what they were changing...

172.68.110.4: /* Explanation */

2024-06-07T18:32:43Z

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172.70.90.120: /* Explanation */ "Interpenetrated" is probably not the word that was intended here.

2024-03-14T00:13:10Z

‎Explanation: "Interpenetrated" is probably not the word that was intended here.

Colt605: /* Explanation */ typo

2023-09-30T00:34:54Z

‎Explanation: typo

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Char Latte49 at 01:20, 26 September 2022

2022-09-26T01:20:53Z

BetaOS: Undo revision 277106 by Donald Trump (talk)

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Undo revision 277106 by Donald Trump (talk)

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 ==Explanation==
-Randall Monroe is a little ''bitch''
+[[Hairy]] offers [[Cueball]] some {{w|beer}} from his fridge, and Cueball takes the opportunity to suggest that people should admit that beer tastes bad and stop pretending to like it. Hairy berates Cueball for making such an admission, and Cueball admits defeat, deciding to drink the beer anyway and pretend to like it to play his part in what he perceives to be a mass delusion.
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 ==Explanation==
-[[Hairy]] offers [[Cueball]] some {{w|beer}} from his fridge, and Cueball takes the opportunity to suggest that people should admit that beer tastes bad and stop pretending to like it. Hairy berates Cueball for making such an admission, and Cueball admits defeat, deciding to drink the beer anyway and pretend to like it to play his part in what he perceives to be a mass delusion.
+Randall Monroe is a little ''bitch''
 ==Transcript==

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 [[Hairy]] offers [[Cueball]] some {{w|beer}} from his fridge, and Cueball takes the opportunity to suggest that people should admit that beer tastes bad and stop pretending to like it. Hairy berates Cueball for making such an admission, and Cueball admits defeat, deciding to drink the beer anyway and pretend to like it to play his part in what he perceives to be a mass delusion.
-There are two possible interpretations of this comic. One is that Cueball is right and that no one really likes beer, and everyone is just pretending in order to fit in. The other is that Hairy actually likes beer, but Cueball is adamant on this stance and would sarcastically consume alcohol rather then refusing it. The second is more likely, as Hairy later suggests to Cueball that he should stop drinking the beer if he dislikes it (implying that he himself, having taken a swig earlier, does enjoy it).
+Beer is made by soaking and fermenting grains in water. This process both produces alcohol, and introduces complex profiles of flavor. However, these flavors are often outside of what naturally appeals to people. As a result, many find beer to be an "acquired taste", meaning that most people don't enjoy it at first, but come to appreciate it with time and experience. There's a large and thriving subculture of beer enthusiasts who have strong opinions on the relative qualities and appeal of different types of beer and different process for producing it.
-In the case where Cueball is correct, the comic would imply that beer doesn't actually taste good, and people instead pretend to like beer to conform to social norms. The theory is that this pretense is perpetuated by advertising and {{w|peer pressure}}, which present beer as a naturally pleasant beverage. In this interpretation, Cueball, having failed to break the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S1d3cNge24&t=47m34s mutual knowledge barrier], admits defeat and joins Hairy in pretending to enjoy beer.
+Cueball appears to see this entire system as something of a mass delusion, in which nobody really ''likes'' beer, but "pretend" to like it, out of social expectation, and proposes that everybody simply admit this. When Hairy rejects this suggestion, Cueball passive-aggressively agrees to drop it, while making clear that he's feigning enjoyment out of peer pressure.
-The second case would mean that Cueball mistaken in assuming that nobody likes beer, either because he fails to {{w|empathy|empathize}} with those who have a different experience than his, or because he's heard from other people who also admitted not to like beer, and extrapolated that opinion to everyone (perhaps assuming that such admissions are underrepresented due to the {{w|Drinking culture|cultural bias in favor of drinking}}).
+There are two possible interpretations of this comic. One is that Cueball is right and that no one really likes beer, and everyone is just pretending in order to fit in. The other is that Hairy actually likes beer, but Cueball is adamant on this stance and would sarcastically consume alcohol rather then refusing it. In the first interpretation, the comic is a mockery of {{W|drinking culture}} in general, suggesting that people are simply going along with social expectations (which are created by other people going along with the same expectations). In the second interpretation, the comic is a mockery of people who loudly profess their distaste for beer. In support of this point, Hairy is very clear that Cueball shouldn't drink if he doesn't enjoy it, but Cueball drinks anyway, just so he can continue to complain.
-It can also be interpreted as poking fun at people who loudly profess their distaste for beer. Cueball brings up his dislike for the taste of beer, a criticism that many people have. Instead of not saying anything or refusing to drink, Cueball would rather continue with it so they can complain more.
+The title text expands on Cueball's perspective, stating ({{w|sarcastic|sarcastically}}) that he feels "no peer pressure" to like beer. The pressure to drink beer or other alcoholic drinks is a well-known phenomenon, especially among {{w|Peer pressure#Adolescence|adolescents and young adults}}.
-The title text expands on Cueball's perspective, stating ({{w|sarcastic|sarcastically}}) that he feels "no peer pressure" to like beer. The pressure to drink beer or other alcoholic drinks is a well-known phenomenon, especially among {{w|Peer pressure#Adolescence|adolescents and young adults}}.
+A similar point about the effects of peer pressure and culture on drinking is made in [[915: Connoisseur]].
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 It can also be interpreted as poking fun at people who loudly profess their distaste for beer. Cueball brings up his dislike for the taste of beer, a criticism that many people have. Instead of not saying anything or refusing to drink, Cueball would rather continue with it so they can complain more.
-The title text expands on Cueball's perspective, stating ({{w|sarcastic|sarcastically}}) that he feels "no peer pressure" to like beer. The pressure to drink beer or other alcoholic drinks is a well-known phenomenon, especially among {{w|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_pressure#Adolescence|adolescents and young adults}}.
+The title text expands on Cueball's perspective, stating ({{w|sarcastic|sarcastically}}) that he feels "no peer pressure" to like beer. The pressure to drink beer or other alcoholic drinks is a well-known phenomenon, especially among {{w|Peer pressure#Adolescence|adolescents and young adults}}.
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 It can also be interpreted as poking fun at people who loudly profess their distaste for beer. Cueball brings up his dislike for the taste of beer, a criticism that many people have. Instead of not saying anything or refusing to drink, Cueball would rather continue with it so they can complain more.
-The title text expands on Cueball's perspective, stating ({{w|sarcastic|sarcastically}}) that he feels "no peer pressure" to like beer. The pressure to drink beer or other alcoholic drinks is a well-known phenomenon, especially among {{w|Peer pressure#Substance use and adolescents|adolescents and young adults}}.
+The title text expands on Cueball's perspective, stating ({{w|sarcastic|sarcastically}}) that he feels "no peer pressure" to like beer. The pressure to drink beer or other alcoholic drinks is a well-known phenomenon, especially among {{w|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_pressure#Adolescence|adolescents and young adults}}.
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 [[Hairy]] offers [[Cueball]] some {{w|beer}} from his fridge, and Cueball takes the opportunity to suggest that people should admit that beer tastes bad and stop pretending to like it. Hairy berates Cueball for making such an affirmation, and Cueball admits defeat, deciding to drink the beer anyway and pretend to like it to play his part in what he perceives to be a mass delusion.
-There are two possible interpretations of this comic. One is that Cueball is right and that no one really likes beer, and everyone is just pretending in order to fit in. The other is that Hairy actually likes beer, but Cueball fails to recognize that possibility, assumes Hairy is faking it, and plays along.
+There are two possible interpretations of this comic. One is that Cueball is right and that no one really likes beer, and everyone is just pretending in order to fit in. The other is that Hairy actually likes beer, but Cueball fails to recognize that possibility, assumes Hairy is faking it, and plays along. The second is more likely, as Hairy later suggests to Cueball that he should stop drinking the beer if he dislikes it (implying that he himself, having taken a swig earlier, does enjoy it).
 In the case where Cueball is correct, the comic would imply that beer doesn't actually taste good, and people instead pretend to like beer to conform to social norms. The theory is that this pretense is perpetuated by advertising and {{w|peer pressure}}, which present beer as a naturally pleasant beverage. In this interpretation, Cueball, having failed to break the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S1d3cNge24&t=47m34s mutual knowledge barrier], admits defeat and joins Hairy in pretending to enjoy beer.