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‎Trivia

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Maplestrip: /* Explanation */ Apollo 13 is still a film :)

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‎Explanation: Apollo 13 is still a film :)

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 In [[2561: Moonfall]] a similar discussion of an upcoming movie is made for ''{{w|Moonfall (film)|Moonfall}}''. But in that case it is the scientific inaccuracy that is the subject, and the huge explosion that makes it worth seeing anyway... maybe?
-{{spoiler|The following paragraph contains spoilers for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}''. If you don’t want to be spoiled, skip this paragraph.}}The title text references a particular event in ''The Martian''\'s story: The protagonist managed to establish communications with Earth by {{w|repurposing}} the {{w|Mars Pathfinder|Pathfinder}} space probe that NASA landed on Mars in 1997. While working on another piece of equipment, he accidentally subjects the probe to an electrical short-circuit, destroying its electronics and "bricking" it. "{{w|Bricking}}" is a term in consumer electronics which essentially means to cause an electronic device to become non-functional and essentially no more useful than a "brick". An unexpected "bricking" can be very surprising, and in a case where the item is critical, could be devastating. This bricking scene from the book was left out of the movie.
+{{spoiler|The following paragraph contains spoilers for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}''. If you don’t want to be spoiled, skip this paragraph.}}The title text references a particular event in ''The Martian''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s story: The protagonist managed to establish communications with Earth by {{w|repurposing}} the {{w|Mars Pathfinder|Pathfinder}} space probe that NASA landed on Mars in 1997. While working on another piece of equipment, he accidentally subjects the probe to an electrical short-circuit, destroying its electronics and "bricking" it. "{{w|Bricking}}" is a term in consumer electronics which essentially means to cause an electronic device to become non-functional and essentially no more useful than a "brick". An unexpected "bricking" can be very surprising, and in a case where the item is critical, could be devastating. This bricking scene from the book was left out of the movie.
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 In [[2561: Moonfall]] a similar discussion of an upcoming movie is made for ''{{w|Moonfall (film)|Moonfall}}''. But in that case it is the scientific inaccuracy that is the subject, and the huge explosion that makes it worth seeing anyway... maybe?
-{{spoiler|The following paragraph contains spoilers for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}''. If you don’t want to be spoiled, skip this paragraph.}}The title text references a particular event in ''The Martian'''s story: The protagonist managed to establish communications with Earth by {{w|repurposing}} the {{w|Mars Pathfinder|Pathfinder}} space probe that NASA landed on Mars in 1997. While working on another piece of equipment, he accidentally subjects the probe to an electrical short-circuit, destroying its electronics and "bricking" it. "{{w|Bricking}}" is a term in consumer electronics which essentially means to cause an electronic device to become non-functional and essentially no more useful than a "brick". An unexpected "bricking" can be very surprising, and in a case where the item is critical, could be devastating. This bricking scene from the book was left out of the movie.
+{{spoiler|The following paragraph contains spoilers for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}''. If you don’t want to be spoiled, skip this paragraph.}}The title text references a particular event in ''The Martian''\'s story: The protagonist managed to establish communications with Earth by {{w|repurposing}} the {{w|Mars Pathfinder|Pathfinder}} space probe that NASA landed on Mars in 1997. While working on another piece of equipment, he accidentally subjects the probe to an electrical short-circuit, destroying its electronics and "bricking" it. "{{w|Bricking}}" is a term in consumer electronics which essentially means to cause an electronic device to become non-functional and essentially no more useful than a "brick". An unexpected "bricking" can be very surprising, and in a case where the item is critical, could be devastating. This bricking scene from the book was left out of the movie.
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 ==Trivia==
-In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SemyzKgaUU&feature=youtu.be&t=2760 a video interview] by Adam Savage with Andy Weir the author of ''The Martian'' says that his goal was to make the whole book like the mentioned scene from ''Apollo 13'' - exactly what the comic is saying. The video was posted on YouTube the day after the xkcd comic.
+In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SemyzKgaUU&feature=youtu.be&t=2760 a video interview] by Adam Savage with Andy Weir the author of ''The Martian'' says that his goal was to make the whole book like the mentioned scene from ''Apollo 13'' - exactly what the comic is saying. The video was posted on YouTube the day after the xkcd comic. In the end, the movie likely didn't disappoint the big-budget movie makers, grossing more than $630 million against a budget of $108 million.
 {{comic discussion}}

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 ==Explanation==
-[[Cueball]] is very excited about seeing that the trailer for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}'' is finally released, because he really liked the book. Cueball most likely represents [[Randall]] himself in this comic.
+[[Cueball]] is very excited about seeing that the trailer for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}'' is finally released, because he really liked the book. Cueball most likely represents [[Randall]] himself in this comic. ''The Martian'' is a 2015 film based on a 2011 science fiction {{w|The Martian (Weir novel)| novel of the same name}} by {{w|Andy Weir (writer)|Andy Weir}}. The plot involves an astronaut who's accidentally left on {{w|Mars}} when the rest of his crew has to leave during a disaster. The central plot of the novel involves the protagonist having to improvise ways to survive in such an inhospitable environment until a rescue mission can be mounted.
 [[White Hat]] is apparently unfamiliar with the book, and [[Cueball]] explains it by referencing a scene from another movie. {{w|Apollo 13 (film)|''Apollo 13''}} is a film about {{w|Apollo 13#Accident|an actual event}} in which a mission to the moon had to be aborted when the ship was damaged en route. In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry55--J4_VQ the referenced scene], NASA personnel had to quickly develop a plan to build an improvised adapter for a carbon dioxide scrubber, using only those materials available on the spacecraft. This task was critical to the astronauts' survival, if they had failed, the air in the ship would have soon become unbreathable.
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 In [[2561: Moonfall]] a similar discussion of an upcoming movie is made for ''{{w|Moonfall (film)|Moonfall}}''. But in that case it is the scientific inaccuracy that is the subject, and the huge explosion that makes it worth seeing anyway... maybe?
+{{spoiler|The following paragraph contains spoilers for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}''. If you don’t want to be spoiled, skip this paragraph.}}The title text references a particular event in ''The Martian'''s story: The protagonist managed to establish communications with Earth by {{w|repurposing}} the {{w|Mars Pathfinder|Pathfinder}} space probe that NASA landed on Mars in 1997. While working on another piece of equipment, he accidentally subjects the probe to an electrical short-circuit, destroying its electronics and "bricking" it. "{{w|Bricking}}" is a term in consumer electronics which essentially means to cause an electronic device to become non-functional and essentially no more useful than a "brick". An unexpected "bricking" can be very surprising, and in a case where the item is critical, could be devastating. This bricking scene from the book was left out of the movie.
 ==Transcript==

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 ''The Martian'' is a 2015 film based on a 2011 science fiction {{w|The Martian (Weir novel)| novel of the same name}} by {{w|Andy Weir (writer)|Andy Weir}}. The plot involves an astronaut who's accidentally left on {{w|Mars}} when the rest of his crew has to leave during a disaster. The central plot of the novel involves the protagonist having to improvise ways to survive in such an inhospitable environment until a rescue mission can be mounted.
-[[White Hat]] is apparently unfamiliar with the book, and [[Cueball]] explains it by referencing a scene from another movie. {{w|Apollo 13 (film)|''Apollo 13''}} is a film about {{w|Apollo 13 incident|an actual event}} in which a mission to the moon had to be aborted when the ship was damaged en route. In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry55--J4_VQ the referenced scene], NASA personnel had to quickly develop a plan to build an improvised adapter for a carbon dioxide scrubber, using only those materials available on the spacecraft. This task was critical to the astronauts' survival, if they had failed, the air in the ship would have soon become unbreathable.
+[[White Hat]] is apparently unfamiliar with the book, and [[Cueball]] explains it by referencing a scene from another movie. {{w|Apollo 13 (film)|''Apollo 13''}} is a film about {{w|Apollo 13#Accident|an actual event}} in which a mission to the moon had to be aborted when the ship was damaged en route. In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry55--J4_VQ the referenced scene], NASA personnel had to quickly develop a plan to build an improvised adapter for a carbon dioxide scrubber, using only those materials available on the spacecraft. This task was critical to the astronauts' survival, if they had failed, the air in the ship would have soon become unbreathable.
 Cueball apparently particularly enjoyed that scene, and suggests that this kind of on-the-fly problem solving in order to survive is the central theme of ''The Martian'', rather than being only a single scene.

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 [[Cueball]] is very excited about seeing that the trailer for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}'' is finally released, because he really liked the book. Cueball most likely represents [[Randall]] himself in this comic.
-''The Martian'' is based on {{w|The Martian (Weir novel)| a book of the same name}} by {{w|Andy Weir (writer)|Andy Weir}}. The plot involves an astronaut who's accidentally left on {{w|Mars}} when the rest of his crew has to leave during a disaster. The central plot of the novel involves the protagonist having to improvise ways to survive in such an inhospitable environment until a rescue mission can be mounted.
+''The Martian'' is a 2015 film based on a 2011 science fiction {{w|The Martian (Weir novel)| novel of the same name}} by {{w|Andy Weir (writer)|Andy Weir}}. The plot involves an astronaut who's accidentally left on {{w|Mars}} when the rest of his crew has to leave during a disaster. The central plot of the novel involves the protagonist having to improvise ways to survive in such an inhospitable environment until a rescue mission can be mounted.
-[[White Hat]] is apparently unfamiliar with the book, and [[Cueball]] explains it by referencing a scene from another movie. {{w|Apollo 13 (film)|''Apollo 13''}} was a film about {{w|Apollo 13 incident|an actual event}} in which a mission to the moon had to be aborted when the ship was damaged en route. In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry55--J4_VQ the referenced scene], NASA personnel had to quickly figure out how to build an adapter for a carbon dioxide scrubber, using only materials to which the astronauts had access. This task was critical to the astronauts' survival. If they had failed, the air in the ship would have soon become unbreathable. Cueball suggests that this kind of on-the-fly problem-solving in order to survive is the central theme of the book (and therefore the movie).
+[[White Hat]] is apparently unfamiliar with the book, and [[Cueball]] explains it by referencing a scene from another movie. {{w|Apollo 13 (film)|''Apollo 13''}} was a film about {{w|Apollo 13 incident|an actual event}} in which a mission to the moon had to be aborted when the ship was damaged en route. In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry55--J4_VQ the referenced scene], NASA personnel had to quickly develop a plan to build an improvised adapter for a carbon dioxide scrubber, using only those materials available on the spacecraft. This task was critical to the astronauts' survival, if they had failed, the air in the ship would have soon become unbreathable.
-In the final panel, White Hat wonders how such a plot was made into a big-budget film starring Damon. The implication is that this kind of cerebral and procedural story has niche appeal to the nerdier demographics, but wouldn't be expected to have the kind of broad appeal that would draw a large audience, and therefore justify a large budget. Matt Damon is a high-profile star, known for action films like the {{w|Bourne (film series)|''Bourne'' series}}. Cueball appears similarly surprised that the film was made in the first place, but is happy that it was.
+Cueball apparently particularly enjoyed that scene, and suggests that this kind of on-the-fly problem solving in order to survive is the central theme of ''The Martian'', rather than being only a single scene.
 On the day the movie was released in the US, Randall went to see it and released this comic about it: [[1585: Similarities]].

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 [[Cueball]] is very excited about seeing that the trailer for ''{{w|The Martian (film)|The Martian}}'' is finally released, because he really liked the book. Cueball most likely represents [[Randall]] himself in this comic.
-[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue4PCI0NamI This trailer] for ''The Martian'' was released on Monday, June 8, 2015, two days before this comic, although a teaser [https://youtu.be/CumZP6_9sHU "viral" trailer] had been released the previous day. The film, starring {{w|Matt Damon}} (''{{w|The Bourne Identity (film)|The Bourne Identity}}''), is directed by {{w|Ridley Scott}} (''{{w|Alien (film)|Alien}}''). It was released in the United States on October 2, 2015.
+''The Martian'' is based on {{w|The Martian (Weir novel)| a book of the same name}} by {{w|Andy Weir (writer)|Andy Weir}}. The plot involves an astronaut who's accidentally left on {{w|Mars}} when the rest of his crew has to leave during a disaster. The central plot of the novel involves the protagonist having to improvise ways to survive in such an inhospitable environment until a rescue mission can be mounted.
-''The Martian'' is based on {{w|The Martian (Weir novel)| a book of the same name}} by {{w|Andy Weir (writer)|Andy Weir}}. The book is very popular among nerds. The plot is a cross between the film ''{{w|Apollo 13 (film)|Apollo 13}}'' and the plot of the novel ''{{w|Robinson Crusoe}}'' — but just on {{w|Mars}}.
+[[White Hat]] is apparently unfamiliar with the book, and [[Cueball]] explains it by referencing a scene from {{w|Apollo_13_(film)}}, an earlier film about {{w|an actual event| Apollo 13 incident}} in which a mission to the moon had to be aborted when their ship was damaged en route. Specifically, in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry55--J4_VQ one scene], NASA personnel had to quickly figure out how to build an adapter for a carbon dioxide scrubber, using only materials to which the astronauts had access, knowing that if they failed, the air in the ship would become unbreathable, and the astronauts would all die. Cueball suggests that this kind of on-the-fly problem-solving in order to survive is the central theme of the book (and therefore the movie).
-Cueball is telling [[White Hat]] about this trailer and the book, thus White Hat asks if he should read it. Cueball then describes a scene from Apollo 13: ''You know the scene in Apollo 13 where the guy says "we have to figure out how to connect this thing to this thing using this table full of parts or the astronauts will all die?"'' And he then tells White Hat that ''The Martian'' is like that the whole way through. What is actually said in the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry55--J4_VQ mentioned scene] is: ''We gotta find a way to make this fit into the hole for this using nothing but that.'' The first part being a large square box and the other a smaller cylinder.
+In the final panel, White Hat wonders how such a plot was made into a big-budget film starring Damon. The implication is that this kind of cerebral and procedural story has niche appeal to the nerdier demographics, but wouldn't be expected to have the kind of broad appeal that would draw a large audience, and therefore justify a large budget. Matt Damon is a high-profile star, known for action films like the {{w|Bourne (film series)|''Bourne'' series}}. Cueball appears similarly surprised that the film was made in the first place, but is happy that it was.
 On the day the movie was released in the US, Randall went to see it and released this comic about it: [[1585: Similarities]].
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 '''Spoiler alert:'''<br>
-The title text references a particular part of ''The Martian'''s story: The astronaut stranded on Mars has previously established communications with Earth by {{w|repurposing}} the {{w|Mars Pathfinder|Pathfinder}} space probe that NASA landed on Mars in 1997. While working on another piece of equipment, he accidentally subjects the probe to an electrical short-circuit, destroying its electronics and "bricking" it. "{{w|Bricking}}" is a term in consumer electronics which essentially means to cause an electronic device to become non-functional and essentially no more useful than a "brick". The term is commonly used in respect of an unrecoverable failure of {{w|software}} and often a corruption of {{w|firmware}}. An unexpected "bricking" can be very surprising, and in a case where the item is critical, could be devastating.  This bricking scene from the book was left out of the movie.
+The title text references a particular event in ''The Martian'''s story: The protagonist managed to establish communications with Earth by {{w|repurposing}} the {{w|Mars Pathfinder|Pathfinder}} space probe that NASA landed on Mars in 1997. While working on another piece of equipment, he accidentally subjects the probe to an electrical short-circuit, destroying its electronics and "bricking" it. "{{w|Bricking}}" is a term in consumer electronics which essentially means to cause an electronic device to become non-functional and essentially no more useful than a "brick". An unexpected "bricking" can be very surprising, and in a case where the item is critical, could be devastating. This bricking scene from the book was left out of the movie.
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