1556: The Sky - Revision history

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Fixed "weather" for "whether"

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 The comic, however, already starts in a small panel, with uniform sky-colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky, and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image, where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner. They are dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.
-Megan makes a statement about the sky: ''It's one of my favorite halves''. She thus indicates that she has more than one favorite halves. As there are only two halves this thus implies that Megan likes both halves, i.e. she likes everything. Her statement is thus a {{w|Tautology (logic)|tautology}} because it implies that the other half is also a favorite and there are no other segments that would not be among her favorites. There are several xkcd comics about tautology, e.g. [[703: Honor Societies]], [[870: Advertising]] and [[1310: Goldbach Conjectures]].
+Megan makes a statement about the sky: ''It's one of my favorite halves''. She thus indicates that she has more than one favorite half. As there are only two (non-overlapping) halves this thus implies that Megan likes both halves, i.e. she likes everything. Her statement is thus a {{w|Tautology (logic)|tautology}} because it implies that the other half is also a favorite and there are no other segments that would not be amongst her favorites. There are several xkcd comics about tautology, e.g. [[703: Honor Societies]], [[870: Advertising]] and [[1310: Goldbach Conjectures]].
 In [[1368: One Of The]] ''one of'' is also used in a similar way as there is really no other that that one in that comic, whereas here there are no other that has not be included. A very similar sentence is also used in the title text of [[1524: Dimensions]] where the sentence, ''I would say time is definitely one of my top three favorite dimensions''. This also makes very little sense as there are four dimensions with time, and the other three are indistinguishable as they are just three randomly chosen but orthogonal directions in space.

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 In this comic [[Cueball]] and [[Megan]] admire a majestic {{w|sky}} on a beautiful day.
-This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w|Sun}} on 94 around the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky, rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see so many stars with the naked eye, as clearly as shown, if the Sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them; perhaps a few of the {{w|List of brightest stars|brightest stars}}, a handful of [[3063: Planet Definitions|the planets]] and [[2809: Moon|the Moon]], though probably not all in the same convenient patch of sky at the same time. When the Sun {{w|Sunset|sets}} or {{w|Sunrise|rises}}, the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with the nearing of bad weather.
+This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w|Sun}} on or around the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky, rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see so many stars with the naked eye, as clearly as shown, if the Sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them; perhaps a few of the {{w|List of brightest stars|brightest stars}}, a handful of [[3063: Planet Definitions|the planets]] and [[2809: Moon|the Moon]], though probably not all in the same convenient patch of sky at the same time. When the Sun {{w|Sunset|sets}} or {{w|Sunrise|rises}}, the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with the nearing of bad weather.
 The comic, however, already starts in a small panel, with uniform sky-colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky, and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image, where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner. They are dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.

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 In this comic [[Cueball]] and [[Megan]] admire a majestic {{w|sky}} on a beautiful day.
-This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w|sun}} at the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see stars as clearly as shown, if the sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them. When the sun {{w|Sunset|sets}} or {{w|Sunrise|rises}} the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with nearing of bad weather.
+This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w|Sun}} on 94 around the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky, rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see so many stars with the naked eye, as clearly as shown, if the Sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them; perhaps a few of the {{w|List of brightest stars|brightest stars}}, a handful of [[3063: Planet Definitions|the planets]] and [[2809: Moon|the Moon]], though probably not all in the same convenient patch of sky at the same time. When the Sun {{w|Sunset|sets}} or {{w|Sunrise|rises}}, the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with the nearing of bad weather.
-The comic, however, already start in a small panel, with uniform sky colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner, dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.
+The comic, however, already starts in a small panel, with uniform sky-colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky, and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image, where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner. They are dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.
-Megan makes a statement about the sky: ''It's one of my favorite halves''. She thus indicates that she has more than one favorite halves. As there are only two halves this thus implies that Megan likes both halves, i.e. she likes everything. Her statement is thus a {{w|Tautology_(logic)|tautology}} because it implies that the other half is also a favorite and there are no other segments that would not be among her favorites. There are several xkcd comics about tautology, e.g. [[703: Honor Societies]], [[870: Advertising]] and [[1310: Goldbach Conjectures]].
+Megan makes a statement about the sky: ''It's one of my favorite halves''. She thus indicates that she has more than one favorite halves. As there are only two halves this thus implies that Megan likes both halves, i.e. she likes everything. Her statement is thus a {{w|Tautology (logic)|tautology}} because it implies that the other half is also a favorite and there are no other segments that would not be among her favorites. There are several xkcd comics about tautology, e.g. [[703: Honor Societies]], [[870: Advertising]] and [[1310: Goldbach Conjectures]].
 In [[1368: One Of The]] ''one of'' is also used in a similar way as there is really no other that that one in that comic, whereas here there are no other that has not be included. A very similar sentence is also used in the title text of [[1524: Dimensions]] where the sentence, ''I would say time is definitely one of my top three favorite dimensions''. This also makes very little sense as there are four dimensions with time, and the other three are indistinguishable as they are just three randomly chosen but orthogonal directions in space.
-Taken at face value, given that the image depicts half open sky and half clouds, the other half could be taken to mean the clouds covering half of the sky. Or it could be the sky and the dark Earth, the other half beneath their feet. That it is the latter becomes evident in the title text.
+Taken at face value, given that the image depicts half open sky and half clouds, the other half could be taken to mean the clouds covering half of the sky. Or it could be the sky and the dark Earth, the other half beneath their feet. That it is the latter becomes evident in the title text. But, in the title text, Megan continues her comment to state that her other favorite half has some cool objects in it, listing three types of objects:
 *{{w|Shipwrecks}}
 *{{w|Rocks}}
 *{{w|Snakes}}
-From this it is thus clear that it is not the clouds vs. the sky she's referring to but rather the sky vs. something down on Earth. Whether the clouds are considered part of the sky or just blocking the sky could be something Megan and Cueball would disagree about. See below.
+From this it becomes clear that it is not the clouds vs. the sky she's referring to but rather the sky vs. all the things in the 'other' half, on the basis of if you removed all the things in the non-sky half, including the Earth, that half would ''also'' be sky.
-This last part of the title text thus shows that Megan may be thinking rather of the night sky, and given that there are also stars visible in the top right corner, she could have assumed Cueball also referred to the sky like this rather than the majestic display of clouds and colors. Of course that would be weird, but that's where the comedy occurs because that was unexpected, and it would be typical Megan and/or [[Randall]].
+However, beyond the blue sky above there is just the dark {{w|night sky}} of {{w|outer space}}. If it were not for the Earth, the blue sky and its clouds would not exist, as it is formed by the air following the gravity and curvature of the Earth. So removing the entire Earth out from below you would remove the possibility of such a sky in ''any'' direction. A more selective removal ''might'' remove just enough planet to see ''some'' sky down in the lower-half, but the logistics of doing that whilst also getting a similarly unobscured view is somewhat unfathomable; even the thickness of the downwards atmosphere would make for significantly different effects, and a daylight sky above would tend to dictate that the sky directly down any hole would ultimately be a night-time sky.
-If Megan is also interested in astronomy then she would prefer a dark cloudless sky with stars. And by focusing on the fact that if the Earth was removed there would only be dark sky (empty space) around her on all sides, this may be one of her other often seen strange preferences. (Those are often used by one of the characters in Randall's comics). It is well know from xkcd that Randall really [[:Category:Astronomy|loves astronomy]] and looking at the night sky. So seen from this perspective, there would still be plenty of sky even if the Earth where removed completely. However, there would not be any clouds or nice colors or any humans or other lifeforms around to admire those astronomical objects.
+This last part of the title text thus shows that Megan ''may'' be thinking rather of the night sky, and given that there are also stars visible in the top right corner, she could have assumed Cueball also referred to the sky like this rather than the majestic display of clouds and colors. Of course that would be weird, but that's where the comedy occurs because that was unexpected, and it would be typical Megan and/or [[Randall]].
-The title text also indicates that although the other half also is one of Megan's favorites, it is mainly the shipwrecks (the oceans) and the snakes (life forms) that she considers when thinking of this half. The rest is just rocks (the Earth). Taking into account how many different things that are on "that other half", why did Randall then choose to mention those two? Only he will know, but maybe indeed to focus on the oceans and their life forms or any life.
+If Megan is also interested in astronomy then she could also appreciate a dark and cloudless sky with stars. And by the same logic of the Earth was removed would leave only dark sky (empty space) around her on all sides, this may be considered a suitably satisfactory alternative. It is well know from xkcd that Randall really [[:Category:Astronomy|loves astronomy]] and looking at the night sky and, seen from this perspective, there would still be plenty of sky even if the Earth where removed completely. Though it would mean no clouds or atmospheric colors (or any humans or other lifeforms around to admire those astronomical objects).
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 *{{w|Rocks}}
 *{{w|Snakes}}
-From this it is thus clear that it is not the clouds vs. the sky she's referring to but rather the sky vs. something down on Earth. Weather the clouds are considered part of the sky or just blocking the sky could be something Megan and Cueball would disagree about. See below.
+From this it is thus clear that it is not the clouds vs. the sky she's referring to but rather the sky vs. something down on Earth. Whether the clouds are considered part of the sky or just blocking the sky could be something Megan and Cueball would disagree about. See below.
 Based on these three items the other half could either be the entire {{w|Earth}}, just the {{w|Continent|solid ground}} or only the {{w|oceans}}. All three mentioned objects can be found both on land and in the oceans. Shipwrecks may be associate with oceans, but they are also often stranded on the shore. Snakes are mainly associated with land, but there are {{w|Hydrophiinae|several snakes}} that live in the ocean. But the last part of the title text takes both the ground and the sea out of the equation, as it states that if those three objects where moved out of the way the other half would also have more sky. As Earth is round (and made from rock, most of them melted in the {{w|outer core}}) then if you "moved all those rocks out of the way" you would see the sky below on the other side.

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	This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w\|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w\|sun}} at the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see stars as clearly as shown, if the sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them. When the sun {{w\|Sunset\|sets}} or {{w\|Sunrise\|rises}} the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w\|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with nearing of bad weather.		This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w\|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w\|sun}} at the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see stars as clearly as shown, if the sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them. When the sun {{w\|Sunset\|sets}} or {{w\|Sunrise\|rises}} the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w\|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with nearing of bad weather.
−
−	~~On an unrelated note, listen to Prisencolinensinainciusol.~~
−	~~Prisencolinensinainciusol~~
−	~~(In de col men seivuan~~
−	~~Prisencolinensinainciusol, ol rait)~~
−	~~Uis de seim cius nau op de seim~~
−	~~Ol uait men in de colobos dai~~
−	~~Trr, ciak is e maind beghin de col~~
−	~~Bebi stei ye push yo oh~~
−	~~Uis de seim cius nau op de seim~~
−	~~Ol uoit men in de colobos dai~~
−	~~Not s de seim laikiu de promisdin~~
−	~~Iu nau in trabol lovgiai ciu gen~~
−	~~In do camo not cius no bai for lov so~~
−	~~Op op giast cam lau ue cam lov ai~~
−	~~Oping tu stei laik cius go mo men~~
−	~~Iu bicos tue men cold dobrei goris~~
−	~~Oh sandei~~
−	~~Ai ai smai sesler~~
−	~~Eni els so co uil piso, ais~~
−	~~In de col men seivuan~~
−	~~Prisencolinensinainciusol, ol rait~~
−	~~Ai ai smai senflecs~~
−	~~Eni go for doing peso, ais~~
−	~~Prisencolinensinainciusol ol rait~~
−	~~Uel ai sint no ai giv de sint~~
−	~~Laik de cius nobodi oh gud taim lev feis go~~
−	~~Uis de seim et seim cius go no ben~~
−	~~Let de cius end kai for not de gai giast stei~~
−	~~Ai ai smai senflecs~~
−	~~Eni go for doing peso, ais~~
−	~~In de col mein seivuan~~
−	~~Prisencolinensinainciusol ol rait~~
−	~~Lu nei si not sicidor~~
−	~~Ah es la bebi la dai big iour~~
−	~~Ai aismai senflecs~~
−	~~Eni go for doing peso, ais~~
−	~~In de col mein seivuan~~
−	~~Prisencolinensinainciusol ol rait~~
−	~~Lu nei si not sicodor~~
−	~~Ah es la bebi la dai big iour.~~
−	~~Be bop a bop a skibidi bop~~
−	~~Bi bida bi bida bi bida bi~~
−	~~Kye sa kye sa kye sasa kye~~
−	~~Bieh bo bieh bo lika-lika sirm~~
−	~~Sirm onde-onde kudfa miye.~~
−

	The comic, however, already start in a small panel, with uniform sky colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner, dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.		The comic, however, already start in a small panel, with uniform sky colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner, dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.

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 Lu nei si not sicodor
 Ah es la bebi la dai big iour.
-Be bop a bop a skibidi bop.
+Be bop a bop a skibidi bop
-Bi bida bi bida bi bida bi.
+Bi bida bi bida bi bida bi
 The comic, however, already start in a small panel, with uniform sky colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner, dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.

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	This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w\|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w\|sun}} at the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see stars as clearly as shown, if the sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them. When the sun {{w\|Sunset\|sets}} or {{w\|Sunrise\|rises}} the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w\|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with nearing of bad weather.		This is one of the few comics where the scenery is drawn entirely in color, adding to the feeling of awe and natural wonder. The lighting on the {{w\|clouds}} and the night sky in the upper corner suggest that this is either at sunset or sunrise, with the {{w\|sun}} at the horizon outside the left part of the image. The picture is drawn to show the ever changing beauty of the many different stages of the sky rather than to be 100% realistic, as it would not be possible to see stars as clearly as shown, if the sun is still illuminating the clouds in front of them. When the sun {{w\|Sunset\|sets}} or {{w\|Sunrise\|rises}} the light produces many different colors which can often be breathtaking to witness. The pouch shaped cloud formations are called {{w\|mammatus clouds}} and are usually associated with nearing of bad weather.
		+
		+	On an unrelated note, listen to Prisencolinensinainciusol.
		+	Prisencolinensinainciusol
		+	(In de col men seivuan
		+	Prisencolinensinainciusol, ol rait)
		+	Uis de seim cius nau op de seim
		+	Ol uait men in de colobos dai
		+	Trr, ciak is e maind beghin de col
		+	Bebi stei ye push yo oh
		+	Uis de seim cius nau op de seim
		+	Ol uoit men in de colobos dai
		+	Not s de seim laikiu de promisdin
		+	Iu nau in trabol lovgiai ciu gen
		+	In do camo not cius no bai for lov so
		+	Op op giast cam lau ue cam lov ai
		+	Oping tu stei laik cius go mo men
		+	Iu bicos tue men cold dobrei goris
		+	Oh sandei
		+	Ai ai smai sesler
		+	Eni els so co uil piso, ais
		+	In de col men seivuan
		+	Prisencolinensinainciusol, ol rait
		+	Ai ai smai senflecs
		+	Eni go for doing peso, ais
		+	Prisencolinensinainciusol ol rait
		+	Uel ai sint no ai giv de sint
		+	Laik de cius nobodi oh gud taim lev feis go
		+	Uis de seim et seim cius go no ben
		+	Let de cius end kai for not de gai giast stei
		+	Ai ai smai senflecs
		+	Eni go for doing peso, ais
		+	In de col mein seivuan
		+	Prisencolinensinainciusol ol rait
		+	Lu nei si not sicidor
		+	Ah es la bebi la dai big iour
		+	Ai aismai senflecs
		+	Eni go for doing peso, ais
		+	In de col mein seivuan
		+	Prisencolinensinainciusol ol rait
		+	Lu nei si not sicodor
		+	Ah es la bebi la dai big iour.
		+	Be bop a bop a skibidi bop.
		+	Bi bida bi bida bi bida bi.

	The comic, however, already start in a small panel, with uniform sky colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner, dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.		The comic, however, already start in a small panel, with uniform sky colored light blue background, above the large drawing described above. In this image Cueball says to Megan that he likes the sky and Megan agrees. Megan first elaborates on her feelings in the large image where the zoom out is so large that they have both become small and insignificant characters in the bottom left corner, dwarfed by the sky and cloudscape, with the ground a broad dark band beneath them.

1556: The Sky - Revision history

172.69.194.204: /* Explanation */

172.69.194.204: /* Explanation */ Guessing that was a miskey, up a row into the numbers.

141.101.98.123: /* Explanation */ Stripped back some of the unusual conclusions, allowed others their own breathing space, tried to avoid the extended revisiting of the Title Text, added a bit of extra, some grammatical/stylistic changes.

172.68.205.151: Fixed "weather" for "whether"

172.70.90.160: Yes, it *does* look unrelated. If it is relevent, then it needs explaining how. But as you suggest that it isn't then...

172.70.143.243 at 12:34, 12 July 2024

172.70.143.243 at 12:32, 12 July 2024

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172.70.90.160: Yes, it does look unrelated. If it is relevent, then it needs explaining how. But as you suggest that it isn't then...