177: Alice and Bob - Revision history

172.68.205.213: The difference (at least for me) is that without a(n extra) line-feed it's roughly a quarter-normal-row-height gap, between bullet-point paragraphs, with one it's roughly half-normal-row-height, in both cases quite obviously separate 'points'. But, hey...

2025-05-06T20:43:10Z

The difference (at least for me) is that without a(n extra) line-feed it's roughly a quarter-normal-row-height gap, between bullet-point paragraphs, with one it's roughly half-normal-row-height, in both cases quite obviously separate 'points'. But, hey...

FaviFake: Thay aren't useless? If there's a gap, the visible space between them becomes larger. If you knew that already, please revert my (this) edit.

2025-05-06T15:31:53Z

Thay aren't useless? If there's a gap, the visible space between them becomes larger. If you knew that already, please revert my (this) edit.

172.69.195.3: /* Explanation */ Strange spacing. Gaps between bulletpoints are superfluous. The (ex-Trivia) "mentioned again" bit is a separate issue from the "other characters" list.

2025-05-05T19:44:26Z

‎Explanation: Strange spacing. Gaps between bulletpoints are superfluous. The (ex-Trivia) "mentioned again" bit is a separate issue from the "other characters" list.

FaviFake at 17:04, 5 May 2025

2025-05-05T17:04:58Z

GetPunnedOn: the slash implies a slash fic

2023-06-19T23:11:45Z

the slash implies a slash fic

172.71.114.161: /* Trivia */

2022-10-30T22:58:32Z

‎Trivia

172.70.114.77 at 22:52, 20 August 2022

2022-08-20T22:52:59Z

172.71.26.59 at 17:05, 24 July 2022

2022-07-24T17:05:31Z

172.71.26.59 at 17:04, 24 July 2022

2022-07-24T17:04:35Z

Sir Urquhart: Undo revision 289251 by 108.162.245.131 (talk)

2022-07-20T19:21:11Z

Undo revision 289251 by 108.162.245.131 (talk)

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	The rest of the comic makes a few other allusions to cryptography:		The rest of the comic makes a few other allusions to cryptography:
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	*{{w\|Bruce Schneier}} and {{w\|Ron Rivest}} are two well-known cryptographers. They have written lots of papers that use Alice and Bob as examples (Alice & Bob fanfic, if you will).		*{{w\|Bruce Schneier}} and {{w\|Ron Rivest}} are two well-known cryptographers. They have written lots of papers that use Alice and Bob as examples (Alice & Bob fanfic, if you will).

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 The rest of the comic makes a few other allusions to cryptography:
 *{{w|Bruce Schneier}} and {{w|Ron Rivest}} are two well-known cryptographers. They have written lots of papers that use Alice and Bob as examples (Alice & Bob fanfic, if you will).
 *Public and private keys are two extremely large numbers, chosen such that there's a mathematical relation between them, and yet it's extremely hard (i.e. would take many billions of years) to derive the private key from the public key. They're the basis of {{w|asymmetric cryptography}}. A public-key authenticated signature is a way of cryptographically proving that a certain person created a file, as only that person could have possibly generated that signature. One downside is that anybody who has the public key can verify who a message is from, so it removes plausible deniability; Bob's partner clearly knew that Alice and Bob were communicating, on disks marked by lipstick hearts no less.
 *A {{w|known-plaintext attack}} is a type of cryptographic attack where at least part of the plaintext (i.e. unencrypted text) of a message is known, and the attacker wants to figure out the keys used to encrypt the message or at least decrypt other ciphertexts that use the same key. The woman is saying that she should have known all along that the messages were adulterous in nature.

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 The rest of the comic makes a few other allusions to cryptography:
 *{{w|Bruce Schneier}} and {{w|Ron Rivest}} are two well-known cryptographers. They have written lots of papers that use Alice and Bob as examples (Alice & Bob fanfic, if you will).
 *Public and private keys are two extremely large numbers, chosen such that there's a mathematical relation between them, and yet it's extremely hard (i.e. would take many billions of years) to derive the private key from the public key. They're the basis of {{w|asymmetric cryptography}}. A public-key authenticated signature is a way of cryptographically proving that a certain person created a file, as only that person could have possibly generated that signature. One downside is that anybody who has the public key can verify who a message is from, so it removes plausible deniability; Bob's partner clearly knew that Alice and Bob were communicating, on disks marked by lipstick hearts no less.
 *A {{w|known-plaintext attack}} is a type of cryptographic attack where at least part of the plaintext (i.e. unencrypted text) of a message is known, and the attacker wants to figure out the keys used to encrypt the message or at least decrypt other ciphertexts that use the same key. The woman is saying that she should have known all along that the messages were adulterous in nature.
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 The title text continues the theme of Randall getting [[:Category:Banned from conferences|barred from speaking at conferences]] due to his unusual take on certain topics.
-To further spice things up, there are many other characters in the Alice/Bob canon, including Mallory, the ''mal''icious attacker, who wants to actually ''alter'' the message with nefarious intent; Craig, the ''cra''cker, who doesn't particularly care about the message but ''does'' care about the passwords used; Plod, a law-enforcement officer attempting to access keys or data; and Chuck, a third party in the communication who secretly has a villainous intent. Alice, Bob, and Eve would be mentioned again in comics [[1323: Protocol]] and [[2691: Encryption]].
+To further spice things up, there are many other characters in the Alice/Bob canon, including Mallory, the ''mal''icious attacker, who wants to actually ''alter'' the message with nefarious intent; Craig, the ''cra''cker, who doesn't particularly care about the message but ''does'' care about the passwords used; Plod, a law-enforcement officer attempting to access keys or data; and Chuck, a third party in the communication who secretly has a villainous intent.
 ==Transcript==

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 *{{w|Bruce Schneier}} and {{w|Ron Rivest}} are two well-known cryptographers. They have written lots of papers that use Alice and Bob as examples (Alice & Bob fanfic, if you will).
 *Public and private keys are two extremely large numbers, chosen such that there's a mathematical relation between them, and yet it's extremely hard (i.e. would take many billions of years) to derive the private key from the public key. They're the basis of {{w|asymmetric cryptography}}. A public-key authenticated signature is a way of cryptographically proving that a certain person created a file, as only that person could have possibly generated that signature. One downside is that anybody who has the public key can verify who a message is from, so it removes plausible deniability; Bob's partner clearly knew that Alice and Bob were communicating, on disks marked by lipstick hearts no less.
-*A {{w|known-plaintext attack}} is a type of cryptographic attack where at least part of the plaintext (i.e. unencrypted text) of a message is known, and the attacker wants to figure out the keys used to encrypt the message, or at least decrypt other ciphertexts that use the same key. The woman is saying that she should have known all along that the messages were adulterous in nature.
 Finally, in a twist ending, the girlfriend is revealed to be none other than Eve, the ''eave''sdropper, who is also ubiquitous in Alice and Bob stories. Hell hath no fury, indeed. This also may be an allusion to B and E, or breaking and entering, as Eve may have done to get Bob's key.
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 The title text continues the theme of Randall getting [[:Category:Banned from conferences|barred from speaking at conferences]] due to his unusual take on certain topics.
-To further spice things up, there are many other characters in the Alice/Bob canon, including Mallory, the ''mal''icious attacker, who wants to actually ''alter'' the message with nefarious intent; Craig, the ''cra''cker, who doesn't particularly care about the message but ''does'' care about the passwords used; Plod, a law-enforcement officer attempting to access keys or data; and Chuck, a third party in the communication who secretly has a villainous intent.
+To further spice things up, there are many other characters in the Alice/Bob canon, including Mallory, the ''mal''icious attacker, who wants to actually ''alter'' the message with nefarious intent; Craig, the ''cra''cker, who doesn't particularly care about the message but ''does'' care about the passwords used; Plod, a law-enforcement officer attempting to access keys or data; and Chuck, a third party in the communication who secretly has a villainous intent. Alice, Bob, and Eve would be mentioned again in comics [[1323: Protocol]] and [[2691: Encryption]].
 ==Transcript==
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 :[Eve places her hands on her hips.]
 :Eve: So before you so quickly label me a third party to the communication, just remember: I loved him first. We had something and she tore it away. She's the attacker, not me. Not Eve.
 {{comic discussion}}

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 The rest of the comic makes a few other allusions to cryptography:
-*{{w|Bruce Schneier}} and {{w|Ron Rivest}} are two well-known cryptographers. They have written lots of papers that use Alice and Bob as examples (Alice / Bob fanfic, if you will).
+*{{w|Bruce Schneier}} and {{w|Ron Rivest}} are two well-known cryptographers. They have written lots of papers that use Alice and Bob as examples (Alice & Bob fanfic, if you will).
 *Public and private keys are two extremely large numbers, chosen such that there's a mathematical relation between them, and yet it's extremely hard (i.e. would take many billions of years) to derive the private key from the public key. They're the basis of {{w|asymmetric cryptography}}. A public-key authenticated signature is a way of cryptographically proving that a certain person created a file, as only that person could have possibly generated that signature. One downside is that anybody who has the public key can verify who a message is from, so it removes plausible deniability; Bob's partner clearly knew that Alice and Bob were communicating, on disks marked by lipstick hearts no less.
 *A {{w|known-plaintext attack}} is a type of cryptographic attack where at least part of the plaintext (i.e. unencrypted text) of a message is known, and the attacker wants to figure out the keys used to encrypt the message, or at least decrypt other ciphertexts that use the same key. The woman is saying that she should have known all along that the messages were adulterous in nature.

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 ==Trivia==
-*Alice, Bob, and Eve are mentioned again in comic: [[1323: Protocol]]
+*Alice, Bob, and Eve are mentioned again in comics [[1323: Protocol]] and [[2691: Encryption]].
 {{comic discussion}}

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 The title text continues the theme of Randall getting [[:Category:Banned from conferences|barred from speaking at conferences]] due to his unusual take on certain topics.
-To further spice things up, there are many other characters in the Alice/Bob canon, including Mallory, the ''mal''icious attacker, who wants to actually ''alter'' the message with nefarious intent; Craig, the ''cr''acker, who doesn't particularly care about the message but ''does'' care about the passwords used; Plod, a law enforcement officer attempting to access keys or data; and Chuck, a third party in the communication who secretly has a villainous intent.
+To further spice things up, there are many other characters in the Alice/Bob canon, including Mallory, the ''mal''icious attacker, who wants to actually ''alter'' the message with nefarious intent; Craig, the ''cra''cker, who doesn't particularly care about the message but ''does'' care about the passwords used; Plod, a law enforcement officer attempting to access keys or data; and Chuck, a third party in the communication who secretly has a villainous intent.
 ==Transcript==

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 | number    = 177
 | date      = October 30, 2006
-| title     = arab soyjak
+| title     = Alice and Bob
-| image     = Osama bin Laden portrait.jpg
+| image     = alice_and_bob.png
-| titletext = :^)
+| titletext = Yet one more reason I'm barred from speaking at crypto conferences.
 }}