1923: Felsius - Revision history

137.25.230.78: replaced symbol with closer Unicode equivalent

2025-12-19T10:35:21Z

replaced symbol with closer Unicode equivalent

172.71.210.149 at 08:17, 21 November 2024

2024-11-21T08:17:11Z

108.162.245.185: /* Table of Given Conversions & Additional */

2024-11-16T16:00:32Z

‎Table of Given Conversions & Additional

172.68.205.150: /* Explanation */ Various... Flow and other changes.

2024-10-26T17:17:33Z

‎Explanation: Various... Flow and other changes.

172.70.207.41: /* Explanation */ ce

2024-10-26T14:47:55Z

‎Explanation: ce

108.162.245.8: /* Explanation */ please see

2024-10-26T14:43:13Z

‎Explanation: please see

108.162.245.8: /* Explanation */ opinion is not explanatory

2024-10-26T14:42:23Z

‎Explanation: opinion is not explanatory

172.68.205.34: /* Implementations */

2024-07-04T13:14:33Z

‎Implementations

Asdf: /* Explanation */ UK still uses pints and miles

2024-05-09T15:51:42Z

‎Explanation: UK still uses pints and miles

Jacky720: rv

2022-05-04T23:48:11Z

Show changes

@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 :°F = °C × 9 / 5 + 32
-which makes the average (mean) value of °C and °F: °⋲ = °C × 7 / 5 + 16.  The step-by-step derivation of this is:
+which makes the average (mean) value of °C and °F: °Ꞓ = °C × 7 / 5 + 16.  The step-by-step derivation of this is:
-:°⋲ = (°C + °F) / 2
+:°Ꞓ = (°C + °F) / 2
 : = (°C + (°C × 9 / 5 + 32)) / 2
 : = (°C + °C × 9 / 5 + 32) / 2
@@ Line 54: / Line 54: @@
 === Table of Given Conversions & Additional ===
 {| class="wikitable"
-!°C!!°⋲!!°F!!Note
+!°C!!°Ꞓ!!°F!!Note
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |100.0
@@ Line 84: / Line 84: @@
 | style="text-align:right;" |0.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |11.4
-|0°⋲ reference
+|0°Ꞓ reference
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |−17.8
@@ Line 111: / Line 111: @@
 ==Transcript==
 :[A thermometer is shown where the temperature is indicated, with a red column of liquid, to be just above room temperature. This can be seen from the five labels belonging to five lines pointing at the scale. None of these coincide with the 14 ticks on the actual scale for the thermometer. Below the last label is the formula for calculating the temperature on this scale.]
-:92°⋲ world heat record
+:92°Ꞓ world heat record
-:68°⋲ body temperature
+:68°Ꞓ body temperature
-:47°⋲ room temperature
+:47°Ꞓ room temperature
-:16°⋲ water freezes
+:16°Ꞓ water freezes
-:–9°⋲ 0°F
+:–9°Ꞓ 0°F
-:°⋲=7×°C/5+16=(7×°F–80)/9
+:°Ꞓ=7×°C/5+16=(7×°F–80)/9
 :[Caption below the panel:]
-:Since the Celsius vs Fahrenheit debate has proven surprisingly hard to resolve, as a compromise I've started using Felsius (°⋲), the average of the two.
+:Since the Celsius vs Fahrenheit debate has proven surprisingly hard to resolve, as a compromise I've started using Felsius (°Ꞓ), the average of the two.

← Older revision		Revision as of 08:17, 21 November 2024
Line 134:		Line 134:
	[[Category:Physics]]		[[Category:Physics]]
	[[Category:Compromise]]		[[Category:Compromise]]
		+	[[Category:Unicode]]

@@ Line 104: / Line 104: @@
 | style="text-align:right;" |−366.4
 | style="text-align:right;" |−459.7
-|{{w|Absolute zero}}; 0K and 0°Ra (equivalennt to −273.15°C and −459.67°F, respectively)
+|{{w|Absolute zero}}; 0K and 0°Ra (equivalent to −273.15°C and −459.67°F, respectively)
 |}

@@ Line 9: / Line 9: @@
 ==Explanation==
-Just like in [[1292: Pi vs. Tau]], [[Randall]] tries to unify two measurement systems by averaging both values. There are several {{w|Scale_of_temperature|temperature scales}} actively used in different parts of the world of for different purposes, including {{w|Celsius}} and {{w|Fahrenheit}}, but e.g. also {{w|Kelvin}} and {{w|Rankine_scale|Rankine}}. Please see [[3001: Temperature Scales]].
+Just like in [[1292: Pi vs. Tau]], [[Randall]] tries to unify two measurement systems by averaging both values. There are several {{w|Scale of temperature|temperature scales}} actively used in different parts of the world of for different purposes, including {{w|Celsius}} and {{w|Fahrenheit}}, but e.g. also {{w|Kelvin}}, {{w|Rankine scale|Rankine}} and [[3001: Temperature Scales|potentially several others]].
-The {{w|United States customary units}} system uses Fahrenheit, as do {{w|imperial units}}. Alternatively, {{w|Metric system|Metric units}} use Celsius or kelvins. While Fahrenheit is still used in the US, {{w|Territories of the United States|its territories}}, the Bahamas, Belize, the Cayman Islands, Liberia, and Palau, other countries use Celsius. In scientific work, including in the US, only Celsius and Kelvin scales are used.
+The {{w|United States customary units}} system uses Fahrenheit, as does the closely related one of {{w|imperial units}}. Alternatively, {{w|Metric system|metric units}} use Celsius or Kelvin. While Fahrenheit is still used in the US, {{w|Territories of the United States|its territories}}, the Bahamas, Belize, the Cayman Islands, Liberia and Palau, all other countries use (or prefer) Celsius. In scientific work, including in the US, only Celsius and Kelvin scales are used.{{Actual citation needed|...the obvious exception is any lab working /straight/ off of the boltzman constant; but we also learn in #3001 that Rankine may be a legacy Kelvin-equivalent 'sciencce-based' scale still used in certain circumstances}}
 The conversion factors between Celsius and Fahrenheit are:
@@ Line 28: / Line 28: @@
 [[Randall]] chose to name his new unit of temperature Felsius (a {{w|portmanteau}} of Fahrenheit and Celsius).
-Comically enough, the Felsius scale discards the main advantages of either temperature scale. The Celsius scale is based around 0 °C as the melting point of water and 100 °C as the boiling point, which is an advantage Felsius does not preserve. Fahrenheit is often argued to be a convenient temperature measure for human comfort, as 0 °F is very cold and 100 °F is very hot. Many places on earth which humans inhabit fall reasonably well within these extremes the majority of the time, but Felsius does not preserve this advantage of the Fahrenheit scale either.
+Comically enough, the Felsius scale discards the main advantages of either temperature scale. The Celsius scale is based around 0 °C as the melting point of water and 100 °C as the boiling point, which is an advantage Felsius does not preserve. Fahrenheit is often argued to be a convenient temperature measure for human comfort, as 0 °F is very cold and 100 °F is very hot and many places on Earth which humans inhabit fall handily within these extremes the majority of the time, but Felsius does not preserve this advantage of the Fahrenheit scale either.
-The title text states that the symbol he chose to represent this unit also is the average of two other symbols. Visually, it is assumed to be a combination of Celsius and Fahrenheit (a C with a crossbar), but it is actually the unrelated symbols for the {{w|Euro sign|euro}} (€) and the Greek lunate {{w|epsilon}} (ϵ). Randall's symbol has a single crossbar, like the Greek lunate epsilon, but the crossbar continues to the left, like the Euro symbol. (In this explanation and the transcript, we have used the mathematical symbol [http://graphemica.com/%E2%8B%B2 U+22F2], which may appear too large or too small depending on the font.)
+The title text states that the symbol he chose to represent this unit also is the average of two other symbols. Visually, it is assumed to be a combination of Celsius and Fahrenheit (a C with a crossbar), but it is actually like one or other of the unrelated symbols for the {{w|Euro sign|euro currency}} (€) and the Greek lunate {{w|epsilon}} (ϵ). Randall's symbol has a single crossbar, like the Greek lunate epsilon, but the crossbar continues to the left, like the Euro symbol. (In this explanation and the transcript, we have used the mathematical symbol [http://graphemica.com/%E2%8B%B2 U+22F2], which may appear too large or too small depending on the font.)
 {|class="wikitable"
@@ Line 44: / Line 44: @@
 |}
-In doing all this, Randall has fallen into the trap of creating a new temperature scale/standard: see [[927: Standards]].
+In doing all this, Randall has fallen into the trap of creating [[927: Standards|a new temperature scale/standard]].
-Randall has also compared Celsius and Fahrenheit scales earlier in [[1643: Degrees]] and in [[526: Converting to Metric]] he tries to give users of the Fahrenheit scale an idea about what a given Celsius temperature would feel like.
+Randall has also compared Celsius and Fahrenheit scales earlier in [[1643: Degrees]], and in [[526: Converting to Metric]] he tries to give users of the Fahrenheit scale an idea about what a given Celsius temperature would feel like. Later on he will [[3001|rate the "cursedness" of various scales]], respectively as 2/10 and 3/10, but we do not discover his opinion of his own combined scale. <!-- Considered suggesting perhaps 5/10 (sum[2,3]/10), 2.5/10 (mean[2,3]/10) or 0.6/10 (product[2/10,3/10]), amngst others... -->
-This is an example of {{w|Argument_to_moderation|Argument to Moderation}}, also known as the false middle point fallacy.  A famous use of this fallacy is in the Bible, the {{w|Judgment_of_Solomon|Judgment of Solomon}}.  The true mother of a disputed baby is discovered<ref>1 [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_kings/3-27.htm Kings 3:27] "...she is the mother thereof."</ref> by proposing the "compromise" of cutting the baby in half. Perhaps Randall has a similar strategy in proposing Felsius, an absurd compromise, in order to somehow discover the "true" temperature scale.
+This is an example of {{w|Argument to moderation}}, also known as the false middle point fallacy.  A famous use of this fallacy is in the Bible, the {{w|Judgment of Solomon}}.  The true mother of a disputed baby is discovered<ref>1 [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_kings/3-27.htm Kings 3:27] "...she is the mother thereof."</ref> by proposing the "compromise" of cutting the baby in half. Perhaps Randall has a similar strategy in proposing Felsius, an absurd compromise, in order to somehow discover the "true" temperature scale.
-Note that this is not the first time Randall has [[:Category:Compromise|proposed a controversial third way]].
+Note that this is not the first (or last) time Randall has [[:Category:Compromise|proposed a controversial 'third' way]].
 === Table of Given Conversions & Additional ===
@@ Line 59: / Line 59: @@
 | style="text-align:right;" |156.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |212.0
-||Water boils at sea level (1 atmosphere)
+|Water boils at sea level (1 atmosphere)
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |54.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |91.6
 | style="text-align:right;" |129.2
-||World heat record (per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_temperature_recorded_on_Earth Wikipedia])
+|World heat record, at time of comic<!-- presumed! --> ({{w|Highest temperature recorded on Earth|Current status}})
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |37.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |67.8
 | style="text-align:right;" |98.6
-||Body temperature (accepted average)
+|{{w|Human body temperature}} range average
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |22.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |46.8
 | style="text-align:right;" |71.6
-||Room temperature (maximum per [https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=room+temperature American Heritage Dictionary])
+|Room temperature (maximum per [https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=room+temperature American Heritage Dictionary])
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |0.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |16.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |32.0
-||Pure water freezes at sea level (1 atm); 0°C reference
+|Pure water freezes at sea level (1 atm); Reference point for 0°C)
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |−11.4
 | style="text-align:right;" |0.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |11.4
-||0°⋲ reference
+|0°⋲ reference
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |−17.8
 | style="text-align:right;" |−8.9
 | style="text-align:right;" |0.0
-||0°F reference
+|Reference point for 0°F
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |−21.1
 | style="text-align:right;" |−13.5
 | style="text-align:right;" |−6.0
-||Saturated salt water freezes at sea level (1 atm)[https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1722]
+|Saturated salt water freezes at sea level (1 atm)[https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1722]
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |−40.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |−40.0
 | style="text-align:right;" |−40.0
-||Equivalence point (exactly −40°)
+|Equivalence point (equal figures in both Celcius and Fahrenheit scales)
 |-
 | style="text-align:right;" |−273.2
 | style="text-align:right;" |−366.4
 | style="text-align:right;" |−459.7
-||Absolute zero (exactly −273.15°C or −459.67°F)
+|{{w|Absolute zero}}; 0K and 0°Ra (equivalennt to −273.15°C and −459.67°F, respectively)
 |}

@@ Line 11: / Line 11: @@
 Just like in [[1292: Pi vs. Tau]], [[Randall]] tries to unify two measurement systems by averaging both values. There are several {{w|Scale_of_temperature|temperature scales}} actively used in different parts of the world of for different purposes, including {{w|Celsius}} and {{w|Fahrenheit}}, but e.g. also {{w|Kelvin}} and {{w|Rankine_scale|Rankine}}. Please see [[3001: Temperature Scales]].
-The debate on whether to use Fahrenheit or Celsius is, just like the one between {{w|United States customary units}} (which uses Fahrenheit), {{w|imperial units}} (mostly outdated system that used Fahrenheit), and {{w|Metric system|metric units}} (which use Celsius or Kelvin), one that is mostly restricted to the US. While Fahrenheit is a widely used temperature scale in the US, most other countries have already switched from Fahrenheit to Celsius or have always used Celsius. In scientific circles, even in the US, only Celsius (and Kelvin) are used.
+The {{w|United States customary units}} system uses Fahrenheit, as do {{w|imperial units}}. Alternatively, {{w|Metric system|Metric units}} use Celsius or kelvins. While Fahrenheit is still used in the US, {{w|Territories of the United States|its territories}}, the Bahamas, Belize, the Cayman Islands, Liberia, and Palau, other countries use Celsius. In scientific work, including in the US, only Celsius and Kelvin scales are used.
 The conversion factors between Celsius and Fahrenheit are:

@@ Line 126: / Line 126: @@
 ==Implementations==
 An implementation of Felsius is available at [http://www.weatherinfelsius.us Weather In Felsius], using a location based on user's IP address and accepting US ZIP codes (permanent dead link).
 {{comic discussion}}