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 ==Explanation==
-[[Science Girl]] thanks {{w|Siri}} on her smartphone for setting an alarm. In the next panel, she asks [[Cueball]], "Is Siri alive?", since AI assistants can seem to be almost human on a very superficial level. Cueball answers "No," since Siri is entirely software, and we don't generally attribute life to computer programs (the closest might be {{w|computer viruses}}, since they replicate).
+[[Jill]] thanks {{w|Siri}} on her smartphone for setting an alarm. In the next panel, she asks [[Cueball]], "Is Siri alive?", since AI assistants can seem to be almost human on a very superficial level. Cueball answers "No," since Siri is entirely software, and we don't generally attribute life to computer programs (the closest might be {{w|computer viruses}}, since they replicate).
-Science Girl then asks "How did she die?" She may have already been treating Siri as alive because she could talk to 'her,' and treats this lack-of-life as a new state of being. So rather than interpreting the answer in a philosophical sense of whether Siri is something that ever ''can'' be alive, which might normally have been presupposed, she treats it as meaning that Siri had (just) expired. This may require a credulous certainty of 'facts' taken literally - it is not clear what could then be understood if Siri were 'proven' to be alive and talking again, afterwards.
+Jill then asks "How did she die?" She may have already been treating Siri as alive because she could talk to 'her,' and treats this lack-of-life as a new state of being. So rather than interpreting the answer in a philosophical sense of whether Siri is something that ever ''can'' be alive, which might normally have been presupposed, she treats it as meaning that Siri had (just) expired. This may require a credulous certainty of 'facts' taken literally - it is not clear what could then be understood if Siri were 'proven' to be alive and talking again, afterwards.
 Or perhaps she thinks that the software Siri is a software embodiment of an actual person (or possibly ghost of actual person), and Cueball was talking about the original person. We don't currently have the technology to {{tvtropes|BrainUploading|upload a person's personality into a computer}},{{Citation needed}} but {{w|Mind uploading in fiction|it's a popular science fiction trope}} and {{w|Mind uploading|many scientists think we will eventually be able to do this}}.
-Another explanation could be that she associates everything into two categories, 'alive' and 'dead', without considering any intermediate or altogether separate categories, such as 'was never alive' or 'was programmed by people who are/were alive, but is not itself alive'. This false dichotomy causes Science Girl to misinterpret Cueball's answer of Siri not being alive as "Siri is dead."
+Another explanation could be that she associates everything into two categories, 'alive' and 'dead', without considering any intermediate or altogether separate categories, such as 'was never alive' or 'was programmed by people who are/were alive but is not itself alive'. This false dichotomy causes Jill to misinterpret Cueball's answer of Siri not being alive as "Siri is dead."
-Finally, she could have actually been asking about {{w|Susan Bennett}}, the voice actress that recorded the base sounds for the synthesizer, perhaps thinking she recorded the full line rather than just base sounds for the software to synthesize. Assuming Science Girl meant the default voice, Bennett is very much alive, and Science Girl simply asked her question wrongly.
+Finally, she could have actually been asking about {{w|Susan Bennett}}, the voice actor that recorded the base sounds for the synthesizer, perhaps thinking she recorded the full line rather than just base sounds for the software to synthesize. Assuming Jill meant the default voice, Bennett is very much alive, and Jill simply asked her question wrongly.
-The title text explains that, contrary to the above explanations, Siri actually died in a battle with [[wikipedia:Amazon Alexa|Alexa]], another personal assistant, hinging on their abilities to set multiple timers. Siri can set multiple timers, but this feature must be enabled via shortcuts. Alexa's ability to do so is much simpler and more user friendly. Of the many actions that these programs are able to perform, this is probably one of the more trivial, so it's not very comprehensible, at least to those not themselves living as digital assistants, that it would be the chosen method for a duel to the death. One possible explanation is that Alexa itself led the battle to that arena, where she knew she could win thanks to her superiority.
+The title text explains that, contrary to the above explanations, Siri actually died in a battle with [[wikipedia:Amazon Alexa|Alexa]], another personal assistant, hinging on their abilities to set multiple timers. Siri can set multiple timers, but this feature must be enabled via shortcuts. Alexa's ability to do so is much simpler and more user friendly. Of the many actions that these programs are able to perform, this is probably one of the more trivial, so it's not very comprehensible, at least to those not themselves living as digital assistants, that it would be the chosen method for a duel to the death. One possible explanation is that Alexa itself led the battle to that arena, where she knew, she could win thanks to her superiority.
 ==Transcript==
-:[Science Girl is holding her phone up in one hand looking at the screen. A starburst from the phone indicates the voice coming from the phone]
+:[Jill is holding her phone up in one hand looking at the screen. A starburst from the phone indicates the voice coming from the phone]
 :Phone: ''Your timer is set.''
-:Science Girl: Thanks
+:Jill: Thanks
-:[The picture broadens and shows that Science Girl, with the phone now held down, is standing in front of a desk, where Cueball, facing her, is sitting in an office chair using a laptop.]
+:[The picture broadens and shows that Jill, with the phone now held down, is standing in front of a desk, where Cueball, facing her, is sitting in an office chair using a laptop.]
-:Science Girl: Is Siri ''alive?''
+:Jill: Is Siri ''alive?''
 :Cueball: No.
-:[Back to only showing Science Girl, her phone and arm still held down at her side.]
+:[Back to only showing Jill, her phone and arm still held down at her side.]
-:Science Girl: Oh, ok.
+:Jill: Oh, ok.
-:[Same setting but Science Girl has raised her arm with the phone, looking at it again.]
+:[Same setting but Jill has raised her arm with the phone, looking at it again.]
-:Science Girl: How did she die?
+:Jill: How did she die?
 {{comic discussion}}
-[[Category:Comics featuring Science Girl]]
+[[Category:Comics featuring Jill]]
 [[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]
 [[Category:Smartphones]]
 [[Category:Virtual Assistants]]
 [[Category:Artificial Intelligence]]

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	==Explanation==		==Explanation==
−	~~{{incomplete\|Created by BATTLE ALEXA. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}~~

	[[Science Girl]] thanks {{w\|Siri}} on her smartphone for setting an alarm. In the next panel, she asks [[Cueball]], "Is Siri alive?", since AI assistants can seem to be almost human on a very superficial level. Cueball answers "No," since Siri is entirely software, and we don't generally attribute life to computer programs (the closest might be {{w\|computer viruses}}, since they replicate).		[[Science Girl]] thanks {{w\|Siri}} on her smartphone for setting an alarm. In the next panel, she asks [[Cueball]], "Is Siri alive?", since AI assistants can seem to be almost human on a very superficial level. Cueball answers "No," since Siri is entirely software, and we don't generally attribute life to computer programs (the closest might be {{w\|computer viruses}}, since they replicate).

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 {{incomplete|Created by BATTLE ALEXA. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
-For fun: An exercise in recursive translation (google translate), starting with arbitrary text.
+[[Science Girl]] thanks {{w|Siri}} on her smartphone for setting an alarm. In the next panel, she asks [[Cueball]], "Is Siri alive?", since AI assistants can seem to be almost human on a very superficial level. Cueball answers "No," since Siri is entirely software, and we don't generally attribute life to computer programs (the closest might be {{w|computer viruses}}, since they replicate).
-What do you call a useless human robot and what is the strong emotion of its domestic tiger? Putting perfume on your face is not expensive, because a slave, we lose resources to feed our presidents. I was sensitive when the gun called me into the blood and water of an enemy killed by a fish. Blood!
+Science Girl then asks "How did she die?" She may have already been treating Siri as alive because she could talk to 'her,' and treats this lack-of-life as a new state of being. So rather than interpreting the answer in a philosophical sense of whether Siri is something that ever ''can'' be alive, which might normally have been presupposed, she treats it as meaning that Siri had (just) expired. This may require a credulous certainty of 'facts' taken literally - it is not clear what could then be understood if Siri were 'proven' to be alive and talking again, afterwards.
-What is the name of the useless robot and what is the strongest elephant in it? Applying perfume on our faces does not work because the slaves have given up their means to satisfy our desires. I was frightened by the bullets that hit the blood and water of the enemy fish. Economy!
+Or perhaps she thinks that the software Siri is a software embodiment of an actual person (or possibly ghost of actual person), and Cueball was talking about the original person. We don't currently have the technology to {{tvtropes|BrainUploading|upload a person's personality into a computer}},{{Citation needed}} but {{w|Mind uploading in fiction|it's a popular science fiction trope}} and {{w|Mind uploading|many scientists think we will eventually be able to do this}}.
-What is a passive robot, a powerful elephant? Slaves do not use lip balm because they can not control our desires. He was afraid that the bullets and the blood would reach the enemy. I'm good:
+Another explanation could be that she associates everything into two categories, 'alive' and 'dead', without considering any intermediate or altogether separate categories, such as 'was never alive' or 'was programmed by people who are/were alive, but is not itself alive'. This false dichotomy causes Science Girl to misinterpret Cueball's answer of Siri not being alive as "Siri is dead."
 ==Transcript==

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 {{incomplete|Created by BATTLE ALEXA. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
-[[Science Girl]] thanks {{w|Siri}} on her smartphone for setting an alarm. In the next panel, she asks [[Cueball]], "Is Siri alive?", since AI assistants can seem to be almost human on a very superficial level. Cueball answers "No," since Siri is entirely software, and we don't generally attribute life to computer programs (the closest might be {{w|computer viruses}}, since they replicate).
+For fun: An exercise in recursive translation (google translate), starting with arbitrary text.
-Science Girl then asks "How did she die?" She may have already been treating Siri as alive because she could talk to 'her,' and treats this lack-of-life as a new state of being. So rather than interpreting the answer in a philosophical sense of whether Siri is something that ever ''can'' be alive, which might normally have been presupposed, she treats it as meaning that Siri had (just) expired. This may require a credulous certainty of 'facts' taken literally - it is not clear what could then be understood if Siri were 'proven' to be alive and talking again, afterwards.
+What do you call a useless human robot and what is the strong emotion of its domestic tiger? Putting perfume on your face is not expensive, because a slave, we lose resources to feed our presidents. I was sensitive when the gun called me into the blood and water of an enemy killed by a fish. Blood!
-Or perhaps she thinks that the software Siri is a software embodiment of an actual person (or possibly ghost of actual person), and Cueball was talking about the original person. We don't currently have the technology to {{tvtropes|BrainUploading|upload a person's personality into a computer}},{{Citation needed}} but {{w|Mind uploading in fiction|it's a popular science fiction trope}} and {{w|Mind uploading|many scientists think we will eventually be able to do this}}.
+What is the name of the useless robot and what is the strongest elephant in it? Applying perfume on our faces does not work because the slaves have given up their means to satisfy our desires. I was frightened by the bullets that hit the blood and water of the enemy fish. Economy!
-Another explanation could be that she associates everything into two categories, 'alive' and 'dead', without considering any intermediate or altogether separate categories, such as 'was never alive' or 'was programmed by people who are/were alive, but is not itself alive'. This false dichotomy causes Science Girl to misinterpret Cueball's answer of Siri not being alive as "Siri is dead."
+What is a passive robot, a powerful elephant? Slaves do not use lip balm because they can not control our desires. He was afraid that the bullets and the blood would reach the enemy. I'm good:
 ==Transcript==

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 Science Girl then asks "How did she die?" She may have already been treating Siri as alive because she could talk to 'her,' and treats this lack-of-life as a new state of being. So rather than interpreting the answer in a philosophical sense of whether Siri is something that ever ''can'' be alive, which might normally have been presupposed, she treats it as meaning that Siri had (just) expired. This may require a credulous certainty of 'facts' taken literally - it is not clear what could then be understood if Siri were 'proven' to be alive and talking again, afterwards.
-Or perhaps she thinks that the software Siri is a software embodiment of an actual person (or possibly ghost of actual person), and Cueball was talking about the original person. We don't currently have the technology to {{tvtropes|BrainUploading|upload a person's personality into a computer}}, but {{w|Mind uploading in fiction|it's a popular science fiction trope}} and {{w|Mind uploading|many scientists think we will eventually be able to do this}}.
+Or perhaps she thinks that the software Siri is a software embodiment of an actual person (or possibly ghost of actual person), and Cueball was talking about the original person. We don't currently have the technology to {{tvtropes|BrainUploading|upload a person's personality into a computer}},{{Citation needed}} but {{w|Mind uploading in fiction|it's a popular science fiction trope}} and {{w|Mind uploading|many scientists think we will eventually be able to do this}}.
 Another explanation could be that she associates everything into two categories, 'alive' and 'dead', without considering any intermediate or altogether separate categories, such as 'was never alive' or 'was programmed by people who are/were alive, but is not itself alive'. This false dichotomy causes Science Girl to misinterpret Cueball's answer of Siri not being alive as "Siri is dead."