2631: Exercise Progression - Revision history

SilverTheTerribleMathematician: /* Explanation */

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2022-07-24T06:05:45Z

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Dansiman: /* Explanation */ add note about ADHD time blindness; replace weird-sounding "fitter" with a different phrasing

2022-06-13T17:15:29Z

‎Explanation: add note about ADHD time blindness; replace weird-sounding "fitter" with a different phrasing

108.162.221.119: /* Explanation */ It's not about "being unaccustomed": the graph is literally a graph of "accustomed"-ness. Could be a legitimate difference due to ADD's superfluity of dopamine transporters, or he could just enjoy whining.

2022-06-13T15:44:05Z

‎Explanation: It's not about "being unaccustomed": the graph is literally a graph of "accustomed"-ness. Could be a legitimate difference due to ADD's superfluity of dopamine transporters, or he could just enjoy whining.

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2022-06-12T13:33:08Z

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While False: Revert replacement of explanation with a less clear and coherent speculation, and paragraph about cognitive ageing without percievable relevance. Undo revision 286715 by 172.70.115.4 (talk)

2022-06-11T14:27:11Z

Revert replacement of explanation with a less clear and coherent speculation, and paragraph about cognitive ageing without percievable relevance. Undo revision 286715 by 172.70.115.4 (talk)

172.70.230.143: /* Explanation */

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 The "normal progression over time" arrow in the graph shows how, when normal people unaccustomed to exercise first start out, it is perceived as unpleasant, for a variety of reasons: it takes time from the day, causes them to become sweaty and hot, feels particularly difficult, causes sore muscles, and so forth. Over time, as their body becomes accustomed to the exercise and can take on higher exercise loads, increasing muscle strength and endurance, so too does the brain, increasing both the amount of dopamine in the brain, and the number of dopamine receptors, as well as other positive changes. This means the "enjoyment" rewards from exercise begin to dominate, and exercise becomes a pleasant pastime, rather than a tedious, time-consuming and perhaps painful slog. This naturally causes a related reduction in whining.
-The "my progression over time" arrow shows that while his body is becoming accustomed to the exercise just like any other, Randal whines linearly with the exercise difficulty. This could be because he is not neurochemically rewarded in the same way. Randall has implied he suffers from [[1106: ADD|ADD]], and this is a common symptom, caused by an excess of dopamine transporters in the brain carrying away the dopamine before it can activate the receptors.
+The "my progression over time" arrow shows that while his body is becoming accustomed to the exercise just like any other, Randall whines linearly with the exercise difficulty. This could be because he is not neurochemically rewarded in the same way. Randall has implied he suffers from [[1106: ADD|ADD]], and this is a common symptom, caused by an excess of dopamine transporters in the brain carrying away the dopamine before it can activate the receptors.
 It could also be because there are other downsides to exercising that he cares about more than the enjoyment; for example, if his exercise duration increases linearly with difficulty, and he values his time highly, that could cause a linear increase in whining with difficulty. Or since there is no scale for time on the graph, it could be that Randall has significantly misjudged the timescale of the effect (another common symptom of ADHD), and has only just begun his exercising journey: he may simply not realize that the neurological changes will take longer than the muscular ones, so he is seeing his muscles get stronger but has not yet reached the downturn in whining. Or he might just enjoy whining, and have more strength for lengthy whining sessions as his fitness increases.

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	The arrows on the graph progress from left to right on the axis for "workout difficulty", showing that as people exercise (both normal people, and [[Randall]]), their bodies become stronger and able handle more difficult workouts.		The arrows on the graph progress from left to right on the axis for "workout difficulty", showing that as people exercise (both normal people, and [[Randall]]), their bodies become stronger and able handle more difficult workouts.

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	To give an idea of the scale of time on the graph, a common rule of thumb is that while gains in strength can be seen within weeks (the stretch of the graph where both arrows rise), it can take months for a neurotypical mind (and its body) to acclimate to a serious change and begin to reap the rewards{{Actual citation needed}} (the falling area on the graph). Military boot camps are 6-13 weeks.		To give an idea of the scale of time on the graph, a common rule of thumb is that while gains in strength can be seen within weeks (the stretch of the graph where both arrows rise), it can take months for a neurotypical mind (and its body) to acclimate to a serious change and begin to reap the rewards{{Actual citation needed}} (the falling area on the graph). Military boot camps are 6-13 weeks.
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		+	The strip may also be a pun, where the "normal progression" arrow traces out half of a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution normal curve].

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 ==Explanation==
 {{incomplete|Created by a SORE WHINING COMPLAINER - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
 The arrows on the graph progress from left to right on the axis for "workout difficulty", showing that as people exercise (both normal people, and [[Randall]]), their bodies become stronger and able handle more difficult workouts.

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 ==Explanation==
 {{incomplete|Created by a SORE WHINING COMPLAINER - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
 The arrows on the graph progress from left to right on the axis for "workout difficulty", showing that as people exercise (both normal people, and [[Randall]]), their bodies become stronger and able handle more difficult workouts.

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 The "my progression over time" arrow shows that while his body is becoming accustomed to the exercise just like any other, Randal whines linearly with the exercise difficulty. This could be because he is not neurochemically rewarded in the same way. Randall has implied he suffers from [[1106: ADD|ADD]], and this is a common symptom, caused by an excess of dopamine transporters in the brain carrying away the dopamine before it can activate the receptors.
-It could also be because there are other downsides to exercising that he cares about more than the enjoyment; for example, if his exercise duration increases linearly with difficulty, and he values his time highly, that could cause a linear increase in whining with difficulty. Or since there is no scale for time on the graph, it could be that Randall has significantly misjudged the timescale of the effect, and has only just begun his exercising journey: he may simply not realize that the neurological changes will take longer than the muscular ones, so he is seeing his muscles get stronger but has not yet reached the downturn in whining. Or he might just enjoy whining, and have more strength for lengthy whining sessions as he gets fitter.
+It could also be because there are other downsides to exercising that he cares about more than the enjoyment; for example, if his exercise duration increases linearly with difficulty, and he values his time highly, that could cause a linear increase in whining with difficulty. Or since there is no scale for time on the graph, it could be that Randall has significantly misjudged the timescale of the effect (another common symptom of ADHD), and has only just begun his exercising journey: he may simply not realize that the neurological changes will take longer than the muscular ones, so he is seeing his muscles get stronger but has not yet reached the downturn in whining. Or he might just enjoy whining, and have more strength for lengthy whining sessions as his fitness increases.
 Since the strip does not give information about the content of his whining, duration of exercise regimen, etc, the specific cause of the difference in whining behavior cannot be identified from the strip alone, though in the context of other strips, it is likely to be a real effect of neurodiversity.

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 {{incomplete|Created by a SORE WHINING COMPLAINER - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
-This graph shows how when most people start exercising, their whining and complaining slowly decreases and they increase the difficulty over time, as their bodies become accustomed to regular exercise. However, Randall is showing that his whining and complaining just increases, at a steady pace as opposed to decreasing in accordance with the "normal" graph.
+The arrows on the graph progress from left to right on the axis for "workout difficulty", showing that as people exercise (both normal people, and [[Randall]]), their bodies become stronger and able handle more difficult workouts.
-This is indicative and typical of people who are aggressively uninterested in and not accustomed to exercise. The first time such a person exercises it feels particularly difficult, usually leading to intensely sore muscles the next day.
+The "normal progression over time" arrow in the graph shows how, when normal people unaccustomed to exercise first start out, it is perceived as unpleasant, for a variety of reasons: it takes time from the day, causes them to become sweaty and hot, feels particularly difficult, causes sore muscles, and so forth. Over time, as their body becomes accustomed to the exercise and can take on higher exercise loads, increasing muscle strength and endurance, so too does the brain, increasing both the amount of dopamine in the brain, and the number of dopamine receptors, as well as other positive changes. This means the "enjoyment" rewards from exercise begin to dominate, and exercise becomes a pleasant pastime, rather than a tedious, time-consuming and perhaps painful slog. This naturally causes a related reduction in whining.
-The title text refers to the common response to such whining by people who '''are''' accustomed to exercise, the reassurance that getting stronger through an exercise routine will encourage him, leading to a reduction in how much he whines. He says they were half right, this statement and the graph both implies that he indeed enjoys getting stronger, but his whining has in contradiction to the statement increased over time.
+The "my progression over time" arrow shows that while his body is becoming accustomed to the exercise just like any other, Randal whines linearly with the exercise difficulty. This could be because he is not neurochemically rewarded in the same way. Randall has implied he suffers from [[1106: ADD|ADD]], and this is a common symptom, caused by an excess of dopamine transporters in the brain carrying away the dopamine before it can activate the receptors.
-A reasonable rule of thumb is that it can take up to 6 months for the mind and body to acclimate to a serious change and really appreciate it.{{Actual citation needed}} Military boot camps are 6-13 weeks.
+It could also be because there are other downsides to exercising that he cares about more than the enjoyment; for example, if his exercise duration increases linearly with difficulty, and he values his time highly, that could cause a linear increase in whining with difficulty. Or since there is no scale for time on the graph, it could be that Randall has significantly misjudged the timescale of the effect, and has only just begun his exercising journey: he may simply not realize that the neurological changes will take longer than the muscular ones, so he is seeing his muscles get stronger but has not yet reached the downturn in whining. Or he might just enjoy whining, and have more strength for lengthy whining sessions as he gets fitter.
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 This graph shows how when most people start exercising, their whining and complaining slowly decreases and they increase the difficulty over time, as their bodies become accustomed to regular exercise. However, Randall is showing that his whining and complaining just increases, at a steady pace as opposed to decreasing in accordance with the "normal" graph.
-This is indicative and typical of people who are aggressively uninterested in and not accustomed to exercise. The first time such a person exercises it feels particularly difficult, usually leading to intensely sore muscles the next day. This can make a feedback loop where people avoid the exercise just enough to not increase their fitness so that it becomes easy.
+This is indicative and typical of people who are aggressively uninterested in and not accustomed to exercise. The first time such a person exercises it feels particularly difficult, usually leading to intensely sore muscles the next day.
-The title text refers to the common response to such whining by people who '''are''' accustomed to exercise, the reassurance that getting stronger through an exercise routine will encourage him, leading to a reduction in how much he whines. He says they were half right, implying that he indeed enjoys getting stronger, that the exercise simply doesn't become easier. This is not normal for fit nor unfit people. It could be because there are other things about exercise Randall dislikes, or it could be associated with a medical problem.
+The title text refers to the common response to such whining by people who '''are''' accustomed to exercise, the reassurance that getting stronger through an exercise routine will encourage him, leading to a reduction in how much he whines. He says they were half right, this statement and the graph both implies that he indeed enjoys getting stronger, but his whining has in contradiction to the statement increased over time.
 A reasonable rule of thumb is that it can take up to 6 months for the mind and body to acclimate to a serious change and really appreciate it. Military boot camps are 6-13 weeks.

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	When people get old or cognitively injured, it can become hard for their mind to learn new things the way a person with a healthier brain would. This can also produce curves like the one drawn.		When people get old or cognitively injured, it can become hard for their mind to learn new things the way a person with a healthier brain would. This can also produce curves like the one drawn.
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		+	A reasonable rule of thumb is that it can take up to 6 months for the mind and body to acclimate to a serious change and really appreciate it. Military boot camps are 6-13 weeks.

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