2965: Chili Tornado Quake - Revision history

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	[[Cueball]], as a [[:Category:News anchor\|news anchor]], is reporting on a tornado that struck a chili pepper processing plant during an earthquake, and he rates the event as 55,000 on the (fictional) Richter-Fujita-Scoville scale.		[[Cueball]], as a [[:Category:News anchor\|news anchor]], is reporting on a tornado that struck a chili pepper processing plant during an earthquake, and he rates the event as 55,000 on the (fictional) Richter-Fujita-Scoville scale.

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 The joke is that combining these scales is nonsensical and silly; the effects of each are not interrelated in any meaningful way.
-It's likely the three base numbers are ''multiplied'', as with {{w|Foot-pound (energy)|similar}} compound-unit calculations, to give the single combined measure (although some nominal types are treated as {{w|Erdős–Bacon number|additive}}).
+Exactly how the final number of 55,000 was calculated is an exercise for Randall. As mentioned above, only the Scoville scale would normally see numbers this high (for example, an 18 on the Richter scale would vaporize the Earth). Allowing for some speculation, it's likely the three base numbers are multiplied, as with {{w|Foot-pound (energy)|similar}} compound-unit calculations, to give the single combined measure (although some nominal types are treated as {{w|Erdős–Bacon number|additive}}). This would be consistent with likely values of the earthquake, tornado, and chilli peppers:
 * Richter: Since the building is still there it is not a 9 on the Richter scale, suggesting a maximum around 8. The fracturing of the earth suggests a minimum of 6.
 * Fujita: Given the image, this is not a 5 on the tornado scale, suggesting a maximum around 4. The severe damage to the building suggests a minimum of 3.
-* Scoville: This would then leave the rest for the Scoville scale, which would give around 1700 on that scale as a minimum. The other two numbers could easily be smaller so that the Scoville number would be reaching above 3000. The chili peppers being processed could be poblano (Scoville number between about 1000 and 2000) or jalapeño (2500 to 10,000), among others.
+* Scoville: This would then leave the rest for the Scoville scale. 55,000 divided by estimates of 8 and 3 would give around 1700 Scoville units, a normal value for poblano peppers (Scoville number between about 1000 and 2000). The other two numbers could also be smaller, requiring a higher Scoville rating to reach 55,000 through multiplication, but there are many hotter peppers to make up the difference, such as jalapeño peppers (2500 to 10,000 Scoville units) among others.
 In the title text it is mentioned that buildings constructed from softer materials were damaged by chili pepper impacts [due] to the storm's high Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating. The {{w|Mohs scale}} is a scale for mineral hardness which ranges from 1 (e.g. talc) to 10 (diamond), with lower numbers being softer and higher numbers being harder. Chili peppers are strong in a spicy sense, but very soft on the Mohs scale, so if it was only the chilies that hit other buildings it would only be very soft material that would take any damage. Of course there would also be building material hitting nearby houses, thus they would do more damage than the chili, by an amount that would depend upon the relative hardness of the processing plant structure to that of other buildings. The former is frangible enough to have become dislodged from its structure, but may be just as brittle as it is ultimately abrasive, or is composed of thoroughly resilient pieces of material previously held in place by mortar or some other binding of insufficient adhesion or mechanical strength. From either point or failure (or both!), the wind-whipped cloud of debris might then indeed be able to scour more generally well-built structures nearby, even ones actually designed to withstand and absorb such winds/earth movements in their own right.

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 * The '''{{w|Richter scale}}''' is a historic (but still well known) logarithmic scale for rating the intensity of {{w|earthquakes}} that typically range from about 3 to 9.5.
 * The '''{{w|Fujita scale}}''' rates the intensity of damage caused by {{w|tornadoes}} which ranges from 0 to 5.
-* The '''{{w|Scoville scale}}''' rates the spiciness of {{w|chili peppers}} from 0 (not at all spicy) all the way up into the millions.
+* The '''{{w|Scoville scale}}''' rates the spiciness of food, such as {{w|chili peppers}}, from 0 (not spicy) all the way up into the millions.
 The joke is that combining these scales is nonsensical and silly; the effects of each are not interrelated in any meaningful way.

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	[[Cueball]], as a [[:Category:News anchor\|news anchor]], is reporting on a tornado that struck a chili pepper processing plant during an earthquake, and he rates the event as 55,000 on the (fictional) Richter-Fujita-Scoville scale.		[[Cueball]], as a [[:Category:News anchor\|news anchor]], is reporting on a tornado that struck a chili pepper processing plant during an earthquake, and he rates the event as 55,000 on the (fictional) Richter-Fujita-Scoville scale.

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	[[Cueball]], as a [[:Category:News anchor\|news anchor]], is reporting on a tornado that struck a chili pepper processing plant during an earthquake, and he rates the event as 55,000 on the (fictional) Richter-Fujita-Scoville scale.		[[Cueball]], as a [[:Category:News anchor\|news anchor]], is reporting on a tornado that struck a chili pepper processing plant during an earthquake, and he rates the event as 55,000 on the (fictional) Richter-Fujita-Scoville scale.

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 The sentence as written means that '''the chili peppers impacted the ''magnitude'' of the scale'''. In other words, buildings made of soft materials were damaged because the Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating was higher than it otherwise would have been as a result of the chili peppers. This suggests that spicier peppers are more likely to damage soft buildings.
-The text has a somewhat awkward and unusual phrasing, if this was the intended meaning. If it was intented, Randall is presumably making a pun on the word impact, using it in an unusual way. Discussion about impacts from disasters usually talk about physical impacts, not impacts to abstact measurement systems, so the joke may be about this secondary kind of impact.
+The text has a somewhat awkward and unusual phrasing, if this was the intended meaning. If it was intended, Randall is presumably making a pun on the word impact, using it in an unusual way. Discussion about impacts from disasters usually talk about physical impacts, not impacts to abstract measurement systems, so the joke may be about this secondary kind of impact.
 ====Scenario 2: Missing word====

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 ====Scenario 1: No missing word====
-The sentence as written means that '''the chili peppers impacted the ''magnitude'' of the scale'''. In other words, buildings made of soft materials were damaged because the Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating was higher than it otherwise would have been as a result of the chili peppers. This suggests that spicier peppers are more likely to damage soft buildings. The text has a somewhat awkward and unusual phrasing, if this was the intended meaning.
+The sentence as written means that '''the chili peppers impacted the ''magnitude'' of the scale'''. In other words, buildings made of soft materials were damaged because the Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating was higher than it otherwise would have been as a result of the chili peppers. This suggests that spicier peppers are more likely to damage soft buildings.
 ====Scenario 2: Missing word====

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 * Scoville: This would then leave the rest for the Scoville scale, which would give around 1700 on that scale as a minimum. The other two numbers could easily be smaller so that the Scoville number would be reaching above 3000. The chili peppers being processed could be poblano (Scoville number between about 1000 and 2000) or jalapeño (2500 to 10,000), among others.
-In the title text it is mentioned that buildings constructed from softer materials were damaged by chili pepper impacts [due] to the storm's high Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating. The {{w|Mohs scale}} is a scale for mineral hardness which ranges from 1 (e.g. talc) to 10 (diamond), with lower numbers being softer and higher numbers being harder. Chili peppers are strong in a spicy sense, but very soft on the Mohs scale, so if it was only the chilies that hit other buildings it would only be very soft material that would take any damage. Of course there would also be building material hitting nearby houses, thus they would do more damage than the chili, by an amount that would depend upon the relative hardness of the processing plant structure to that of other buildings. The former is frangible enough to have become dislodged from its structure, but may be just as brittle as it is ultimately abrasive, or is composed of thoroughly resilient pieces of material previously held in place by mortar or some other binding of insufficient adhesion or mechanical strength. From either point or failure (or both!), the wind-whipped cloud of debris might then indeed be able to scour more generally well-built structures nearby, even ones actually designed to withstand and absorb such winds/earth-movements in their own right.
+In the title text it is mentioned that buildings constructed from softer materials were damaged by chili pepper impacts [due] to the storm's high Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating. The {{w|Mohs scale}} is a scale for mineral hardness which ranges from 1 (e.g. talc) to 10 (diamond), with lower numbers being softer and higher numbers being harder. Chili peppers are strong in a spicy sense, but very soft on the Mohs scale, so if it was only the chilies that hit other buildings it would only be very soft material that would take any damage. Of course there would also be building material hitting nearby houses, thus they would do more damage than the chili, by an amount that would depend upon the relative hardness of the processing plant structure to that of other buildings. The former is frangible enough to have become dislodged from its structure, but may be just as brittle as it is ultimately abrasive, or is composed of thoroughly resilient pieces of material previously held in place by mortar or some other binding of insufficient adhesion or mechanical strength. From either point or failure (or both!), the wind-whipped cloud of debris might then indeed be able to scour more generally well-built structures nearby, even ones actually designed to withstand and absorb such winds/earth movements in their own right.
 A number, where the hardness of the materials hitting nearby buildings was taken into consideration, could have been given, adding a fourth number to consider in the scale, but no such number is provided.

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 Similar comics:
 * [[2950: Situation]] - several unlikely scenarios, all at once
-* [[1531: The BDLPSWDKS Effect]] - also a hybrid multi-disciplinary amalgum of measurements
+* [[1531: The BDLPSWDKS Effect]] - also a hybrid multi-disciplinary amalgam of measurements
 * [[1794: Fire]] - featuring a multiple-alarm fire in an alarm factory
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 ====Scenario 1: No missing word====
-The sentence as written means that '''the chili peppers impacted the ''magnitude'' of the scale'''. In other words, buildings made of soft materials were damaged because the Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardess rating was higher than it otherwise would have been as a result of the chili peppers. This suggests that spicier peppers are more likely to damage soft buildings.
+The sentence as written means that '''the chili peppers impacted the ''magnitude'' of the scale'''. In other words, buildings made of soft materials were damaged because the Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating was higher than it otherwise would have been as a result of the chili peppers. This suggests that spicier peppers are more likely to damage soft buildings. The text has a somewhat awkward and unusual phrasing, if this was the intended meaning.
 ====Scenario 2: Missing word====
 "Buildings constructed from softer materials were damaged by chili pepper impacts '''due''' to the storm's high Richter-Fujita-Scoville-Mohs hardness rating."
-The sentence with "due" means that soft buildings were damanaged by chili peppers, since the storm's hardness rating was high enough. This seems more straightforward: harder peppers successfully efacing soft building materials.
+The sentence with "due" means that soft buildings were damaged by chili peppers, since the storm's hardness rating was high enough. This seems more straightforward: harder peppers successfully effacing soft building materials.
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 ===Discussion: Is the title text missing a word?===
-The title text might be missing the word "due," or it might not be a typo; both scenarios are possible, but the meaning changes. Usually Randall fixes typos within a few days, and he hasn't fixed this one yet.
+The title text might be missing the word "due," or it might not be a typo; both scenarios are possible, but the meaning changes.
 Since it's impossible to say which scenario is correct, here are the implications of both.