2973: Ferris Wheels - Revision history

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172.70.162.18: Undo revision 349086 by I HAVE NO NAME (talk) bad spacing. Not really a necessary summary, unless fould be more pithy.

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Undo revision 349086 by I HAVE NO NAME (talk) bad spacing. Not really a necessary summary, unless fould be more pithy.

I HAVE NO NAME at 07:39, 21 August 2024

2024-08-21T07:39:07Z

172.70.163.120: /* Explanation */ My error, misremembered.

2024-08-20T09:20:29Z

‎Explanation: My error, misremembered.

172.70.163.120: /* Explanation / If anything, gyroscopic effects would stop* it toppling (though if it shakes loose of the mount it'll be like a giant wound up Evil Knievel toy). Other tweaks, including reducing CN repetition.

2024-08-20T09:16:24Z

‎Explanation: If anything, gyroscopic effects would *stop* it toppling (though if it shakes loose of the mount it'll be like a giant wound up Evil Knievel toy). Other tweaks, including reducing CN repetition.

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2024-08-20T08:39:52Z

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 This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w|Belt (mechanical)|mechanical belt drive}}, a system used to transfer motion between rotating shafts such as what these become. By connecting the belt to different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way. As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w|G-force#Human tolerance|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.
-Ferris wheels can vary widely in size and speed of rotation, but for illustration, let us assume a diameter of about 200 feet (60 m) and a pretty sedate speed of around 10 minutes per full rotation. The apparent ratio between the connected wheels in the comic is approximately 12.5:1, meaning the motion is significantly sped up as it’s transferred. The second Ferris wheel, driven by the first, could spin at around 1.3 rpm, with passengers moving at 9 mph (14 km/h), giving a more exciting ride, but not inherently dangerous. However, when this motion is further transferred to the third Ferris wheel, it could spin at a possible 16 rpm, with passengers traveling at over 110 mph (180 km/h), subjecting them to around 8 Gs of force. Randall has previously explored the limits of the human body's tolerance for acceleration in ''{{what if|116|What If # 116 "No Rules NASCAR"}}''. Additionally, if a Ferris wheel span at 110 mph (180 km/h) it would itself be just as dangerous even without any riders. However, since the motor for the first wheel would have been selected merely to drive one wheel, it's unlikely it would be able to power the other two wheels moving at these increased speeds — if it moved at all, all three would probably start to move quite slowly, with potential damage to the motor before any friction limitations and other mechanical failures kicked in.
+Ferris wheels can vary widely in size and speed of rotation, but for illustration, let us assume a diameter of about 200 feet (60 m) and a pretty sedate speed of around 10 minutes per full rotation. The apparent ratio between the connected wheels in the comic is approximately 12.5:1, meaning the motion is significantly sped up as it’s transferred. The second Ferris wheel, driven by the first, could spin at around 1.3 rpm, with passengers moving at 9 mph (14 km/h), giving a more exciting ride, but not inherently dangerous. However, when this motion is further transferred to the third Ferris wheel, it could spin at a possible 16 rpm, with passengers traveling at over 110 mph (180 km/h), subjecting them to around 8 Gs of force. Randall has previously explored the limits of the human body's tolerance for acceleration in ''{{What If|116|What If # 116 "No Rules NASCAR"}}''. Additionally, if a Ferris wheel span at 110 mph (180 km/h) it would itself be just as dangerous even without any riders. However, since the motor for the first wheel would have been selected merely to drive one wheel, it's unlikely it would be able to power the other two wheels moving at these increased speeds — if it moved at all, all three would probably start to move quite slowly, with potential damage to the motor before any friction limitations and other mechanical failures kicked in.
 In the caption [[Randall]] says that he was fired for this ill-advised modification, highlighting the impracticality and dangers of the idea. A cruise line also fired the respective narrator due to an unsound engineering proposal earlier in [[2935: Ocean Loop]].

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	This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w\|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w\|Belt (mechanical)\|mechanical belt drive}}, a system used to transfer motion between rotating shafts such as what these become. By connecting the belt to different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way. As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w\|G-force#Human tolerance\|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.		This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w\|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w\|Belt (mechanical)\|mechanical belt drive}}, a system used to transfer motion between rotating shafts such as what these become. By connecting the belt to different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way. As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w\|G-force#Human tolerance\|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.

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-{{incomplete|Created by  PEOPLE ON A 200-BELT DRIVEN FERRIS WHEEL - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
+{{incomplete|Created by a BELT POWERED BY A DIFFERENT WIKI PAGE IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS ONE GOING - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
 This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w|Belt (mechanical)|mechanical belt drive}}, a system used to transfer motion between rotating shafts such as what these become. By connecting the belt to different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way. As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w|G-force#Human tolerance|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.

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-{{incomplete|Created by a BELT POWERED BY A DIFFERENT WIKI PAGE IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS ONE GOING - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
+{{incomplete|Created by  PEOPLE ON A 200-BELT DRIVEN FERRIS WHEEL - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
 This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w|Belt (mechanical)|mechanical belt drive}}, a system used to transfer motion between rotating shafts such as what these become. By connecting the belt to different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way. As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w|G-force#Human tolerance|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.

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 This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w|Belt (mechanical)|mechanical belt drive}}, a system used to transfer motion between rotating shafts such as what these become. By connecting the belt to different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way. As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w|G-force#Human tolerance|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.
-Ferris wheels can vary widely in size and speed of rotation, but for illustration, let us assume a diameter of about 200 feet (60 m) and a pretty sedate speed of around 10 minutes per full rotation. The apparent ratio between the connected wheels in the comic is approximately 12.5:1, meaning the motion is significantly sped up as it’s transferred. The second Ferris wheel, driven by the first, could spin at around 1.3 rpm, with passengers moving at 9 mph (14 km/h), giving a more exciting ride, but not inherently dangerous. However, when this motion is further transferred to the third Ferris wheel, it could spin at a possible 16 rpm, with passengers traveling at over 110 mph (180 km/h), subjecting them to around 8 Gs of force. Randall has previously explored the limits of the human body's tolerance for acceleration in ''{{what if|116|What If # 116 "No Rules NASCAR"}}''(aka can you beat the Daytona Racetrack in less than 1 hour (assuming the person survives)). Additionally, if a Ferris wheel span at 110 mph (180 km/h) it would itself be just as dangerous even without any riders. However, since the motor for the first wheel would have been selected merely to drive one wheel, it's unlikely it would be able to power the other two wheels moving at these increased speeds — if it moved at all, all three would probably start to move quite slowly, with potential damage to the motor before any friction limitations and other mechanical failures kicked in.
+Ferris wheels can vary widely in size and speed of rotation, but for illustration, let us assume a diameter of about 200 feet (60 m) and a pretty sedate speed of around 10 minutes per full rotation. The apparent ratio between the connected wheels in the comic is approximately 12.5:1, meaning the motion is significantly sped up as it’s transferred. The second Ferris wheel, driven by the first, could spin at around 1.3 rpm, with passengers moving at 9 mph (14 km/h), giving a more exciting ride, but not inherently dangerous. However, when this motion is further transferred to the third Ferris wheel, it could spin at a possible 16 rpm, with passengers traveling at over 110 mph (180 km/h), subjecting them to around 8 Gs of force. Randall has previously explored the limits of the human body's tolerance for acceleration in ''{{what if|116|What If # 116 "No Rules NASCAR"}}''. Additionally, if a Ferris wheel span at 110 mph (180 km/h) it would itself be just as dangerous even without any riders. However, since the motor for the first wheel would have been selected merely to drive one wheel, it's unlikely it would be able to power the other two wheels moving at these increased speeds — if it moved at all, all three would probably start to move quite slowly, with potential damage to the motor before any friction limitations and other mechanical failures kicked in.
 In the caption [[Randall]] says that he was fired for this ill-advised modification, highlighting the impracticality and dangers of the idea. A cruise line also fired the respective narrator due to an unsound engineering proposal earlier in [[2935: Ocean Loop]].

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 {{incomplete|Created by a BELT POWERED BY A DIFFERENT WIKI PAGE IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS ONE GOING - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
-This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w|Belt (mechanical)|mechanical belt drive}}, a system typically used to transfer motion between rotating shafts. By connecting the wheels at different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way.{{cn}} As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w|G-force#Human tolerance|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.
+This comic depicts an attempted connection of three {{w|Ferris wheel}}s using a {{w|Belt (mechanical)|mechanical belt drive}}, a system used to transfer motion between rotating shafts such as what these become. By connecting the belt to different circumferences, the relative motion is geared up or down. If the belt passes around the circumference of one wheel and is connected around the hub of another, the latter will rotate significantly faster. In this case, the second wheel's circumference is in turn connected to a third wheel's hub, resulting in even greater rotational velocity. However, this setup is mechanically unsound and possibly dangerous,{{Citation needed}} as Ferris wheels are not intended to be connected in this way. As shown, the first wheel on the left is running at a normal speed, while the other two are rotating increasingly fast, leading to a {{w|G-force#Human tolerance|potentially hazardous}} situation where passengers are flung around to various extents.
-Ferris wheels can vary widely in size and speed of rotation, but for illustration, let us assume a diameter of about 200 feet (60 m) and a pretty sedate speed of around 10 minutes per full rotation. The apparent ratio between the connected wheels in the comic is approximately 12.5:1, meaning the motion is significantly sped up as it’s transferred. The second Ferris wheel, driven by the first, could spin at around 1.3 rpm, with passengers moving at 9 mph (14 km/h), giving a more exciting ride, but not inherently dangerous. However, when this motion is further transferred to the third Ferris wheel, it could spin at a possible 16 rpm, with passengers traveling at over 110 mph (180 km/h), subjecting them to around 8 Gs of force. Randall has previously explored the limits of the human body's tolerance for acceleration in ''What If # 116 "No Rules NASCAR"'' [https://what-if.xkcd.com/116/]. Additionally, if a Ferris wheel span at 110 mph (180 km/h) it would probably topple, which would be just as dangerous. However, since the motor for the first wheel would have been selected merely to drive one wheel, it's unlikely it would be able to power the other two wheels moving at these increased speeds — if it moved at all, all three would probably move quite slowly, with potential damage to the motor.
+Ferris wheels can vary widely in size and speed of rotation, but for illustration, let us assume a diameter of about 200 feet (60 m) and a pretty sedate speed of around 10 minutes per full rotation. The apparent ratio between the connected wheels in the comic is approximately 12.5:1, meaning the motion is significantly sped up as it’s transferred. The second Ferris wheel, driven by the first, could spin at around 1.3 rpm, with passengers moving at 9 mph (14 km/h), giving a more exciting ride, but not inherently dangerous. However, when this motion is further transferred to the third Ferris wheel, it could spin at a possible 16 rpm, with passengers traveling at over 110 mph (180 km/h), subjecting them to around 8 Gs of force. Randall has previously explored the limits of the human body's tolerance for acceleration in ''{{what-if|116|What If # 116 "No Rules NASCAR"}}''. Additionally, if a Ferris wheel span at 110 mph (180 km/h) it would itself be just as dangerous even without any riders. However, since the motor for the first wheel would have been selected merely to drive one wheel, it's unlikely it would be able to power the other two wheels moving at these increased speeds — if it moved at all, all three would probably start to move quite slowly, with potential damage to the motor before any friction limitations and other mechanical failures kicked in.
-In the caption [[Randall]] says that he was fired for this ill-advised modification, highlighting the impracticality and dangers of the idea. A cruise line also fired the cartoonist due to an unsound engineering proposal earlier in [[2935: Ocean Loop]].
+In the caption [[Randall]] says that he was fired for this ill-advised modification, highlighting the impracticality and dangers of the idea. A cruise line also fired the respective narrator due to an unsound engineering proposal earlier in [[2935: Ocean Loop]].
 The title text imagines the consequences of leaving the belt drive system in place but switching which wheel is powered. If the most extreme wheel (the third one on the right) is powered, the gearing would be reversed, making for a possibly pleasant and normal ride on the right-hand wheel, but rendering the experiences of the riders on the other two wheels far too slow for an enjoyable carnival ride. One revolution of the center wheel might take two hours and five minutes<!-- three hours and twenty minutes if ratio 20:1 -->, while the left wheel would take around a little more than a day<!-- multiple days if ratio 20:1 --> per revolution. <!-- Based on the ratios above; I didn't do the intermediate math. Also, this wiki has comments? Neat! --> <!-- Other Person here, can someone check the numbers by doing the math? Thanks! --> <!-- Another person, I recalculated them using the ratio 12.5:1 and put the earlier results in comments, while still starting from 0.1rpm --> This exaggerates the impracticality and unintended effects of using a belt drive system to link up Ferris wheels, illustrating how such an idea would lead to absurdly varied ride experiences.

2973: Ferris Wheels - Revision history

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172.70.160.137: Undo revision 349544 by 172.71.166.120 (talk) Three "only rechanging the BOT text" edits made to pages, with no special reasons.

172.71.166.120: /* Explanation */

172.70.162.18: Undo revision 349086 by I HAVE NO NAME (talk) bad spacing. Not really a necessary summary, unless fould be more pithy.

I HAVE NO NAME at 07:39, 21 August 2024

172.70.163.120: /* Explanation */ My error, misremembered.

172.70.163.120: /* Explanation */ If anything, gyroscopic effects would *stop* it toppling (though if it shakes loose of the mount it'll be like a giant wound up Evil Knievel toy). Other tweaks, including reducing CN repetition.

172.69.195.184: /* Explanation */

172.70.86.132: /* Explanation */ Orphaned half a sentence

172.70.163.120: /* Explanation / If anything, gyroscopic effects would stop* it toppling (though if it shakes loose of the mount it'll be like a giant wound up Evil Knievel toy). Other tweaks, including reducing CN repetition.