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Mathmaster at 22:17, 31 October 2025

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Mathmaster at 22:39, 29 October 2025

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 ==Explanation==
-{{incomplete|This page was created by an EXPLANATION FORGERY ROBOT. Don't remove this notice too soon.}}
 This comic depicts a {{w|diploma}} for a {{w|Doctor of Philosophy|PhD}} in {{w|forgery|Document Forgery}}.

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 ==Explanation==
+{{incomplete|This page was created by an EXPLANATION FORGERY ROBOT. Don't remove this notice too soon.}}
 This comic depicts a {{w|diploma}} for a {{w|Doctor of Philosophy|PhD}} in {{w|forgery|Document Forgery}}.

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 ==Transcript==
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+:[A panel depicts a diploma that has decorations on the corners and sides, but the corners have more decorations than the sides. There is a lot of illegible text above, amid, and below the readable text that is caligraphically blackletter/gothic in nature.]
 :[Two lines of illegible text. The text below is big.]

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 ==Transcript==
-{{incomplete transcript|Don't remove this notice too soon.}}
+{{incomplete transcript|Mention the font}}
-:[A panel depicts a diploma that has decorations on the corners and sides, but the corners have more decorations then the sides. There is a lot of illegible text above, amid, and below the big text.]
+:[A panel depicts a diploma that has decorations on the corners and sides, but the corners have more decorations than the sides. There is a lot of illegible text above, amid, and below the big text.]
-:[Two lines of illegible text]
+:[Two lines of illegible text. The text below is big.]
 :East State University
-:[Two lines of illegible text, a box with illegible text, and another line of illegible text]
+:[Two lines of illegible text, a box with illegible text, and another line of illegible text. The text below is big, except for the "in", which is small.]
 :Doctor of Philosophy
 :in

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-:[A panel depicts a diploma that has decorations on the corners and sides, but the corners have more. There is a lot of illegible text above, amid, and below the big text.]
+:[A panel depicts a diploma that has decorations on the corners and sides, but the corners have more decorations then the sides. There is a lot of illegible text above, amid, and below the big text.]
 :[Two lines of illegible text]

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 The paradox is that creating a convincing diploma could act as evidence that you are, in fact, trained in the art of forgery. One could even imagine the final exam in such a program including the creation of one's own diploma. None of that applies in real life. No accredited university offers a degree in document forgery, let alone a PhD. Document forgery typically belongs to the field of either crime or spycraft, and in both cases, the training is likely to be unofficial and done without public recognition. Possibly, this might be the creation of someone who felt slighted that their skill in forgery wasn't publicly recognized, and so used their skills to create a fraudulent diploma.
-The title text mentions that the diploma comes with a {{w|certificate of authenticity}}, and that the certificate of authenticity has a certificate of its own, and implies that the second certificate has one of its own, and so on, {{w|ad infinitum}}. The joke is that a certificate of authenticity, on its own, is useless in proving a document wasn't forged, because presumably, forging such a certificate is no more difficult than forging the initial document, and simply recursively adding certificates does nothing to resolve this. In real life, certificates of authenticity are meaningful, because they can be verified with whatever expert or organization issued them. If that party is trusted to be able to detect forgeries, and is able to confirm that they issued the certificate, then that does enable verification of the original document.
+The title text mentions that the diploma comes with a {{w|certificate of authenticity}}, and that the certificate of authenticity has a certificate of its own, and implies that the second certificate has one of its own, and so on, {{w|ad infinitum}}. The joke is that a certificate of authenticity, on its own, is useless in proving a document wasn't forged because, presumably, forging such a certificate is no more difficult than forging the initial document, and simply recursively adding certificates does nothing to resolve this. In real life, certificates of authenticity are meaningful, because they can be verified with whatever expert or organization issued them. If that party is trusted to be able to detect forgeries, and is able to confirm that they issued the certificate, then that does enable verification of the original document.
 [[Randall]] may have intended a pun on two meanings of the word 'doctor': firstly, as a title accorded to those who have earned a PhD, and secondly as meaning to {{wiktionary|doctor#Verb|change or falsify details on a document (verb #6)}}.

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	This comic depicts a {{w\|diploma}} for a {{w\|Doctor of Philosophy\|PhD}} in {{w\|forgery\|Document Forgery}}.		This comic depicts a {{w\|diploma}} for a {{w\|Doctor of Philosophy\|PhD}} in {{w\|forgery\|Document Forgery}}.

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 The paradox is that creating a convincing diploma could act as evidence that you are, in fact, trained in the art of forgery. One could even imagine the final exam in such a program including the creation of one's own diploma. None of that applies in real life. No accredited university offers a degree in document forgery, let alone a PhD. Document forgery typically belongs to the field of either crime or spycraft, and in both cases, the training is likely to be unofficial and done without public recognition. Possibly, this might be the creation of someone who felt slighted that their skill in forgery wasn't publicly recognized, and so used their skills to create a fraudulent diploma.
-The title text mentions that the diploma comes with a {{w|certificate of authenticity}}, and that the certificate of authenticity has a certificate of its own, and implies that the second certificate has one of its own, and so on, {{w|ad infinitum}}. The joke is that a certificate of authenticity, on its own, is useless in proving a document wasn't forged, because presumably, forging such a certificate is no more difficult than forging the initial document. In real life, certificates of authenticity are meaningful, because they can be verified with whatever expert or organization issued them. If that party is trusted to be able to detect forgeries, and is able to confirm that they issued said certificate, then that does enable verification of the original document.
+The title text mentions that the diploma comes with a {{w|certificate of authenticity}}, and that the certificate of authenticity has a certificate of its own, and implies that the second certificate has one of its own, and so on, {{w|ad infinitum}}. The joke is that a certificate of authenticity, on its own, is useless in proving a document wasn't forged, because presumably, forging such a certificate is no more difficult than forging the initial document, and simply recursively adding certificates does nothing to resolve this. In real life, certificates of authenticity are meaningful, because they can be verified with whatever expert or organization issued them. If that party is trusted to be able to detect forgeries, and is able to confirm that they issued said certificate, then that does enable verification of the original document.
 [[Randall]] may have intended a pun on two meanings of the word 'doctor': firstly, as a title accorded to those who have earned a PhD, and secondly as meaning to {{wiktionary|doctor#Verb|change or falsify details on a document (verb #6)}}.