3229: Grammar - Revision history

68.187.4.2 at 19:07, 11 May 2026

2026-05-11T19:07:16Z

2603:6011:1F0:2A40:DC22:1F47:2399:3124 at 23:33, 22 April 2026

2026-04-22T23:33:10Z

DollarStoreBa'al: volume and pitch change can encode messages.

2026-04-16T15:52:13Z

volume and pitch change can encode messages.

82.132.239.179: /* Explanation */ multi-message capability... Just use more or less "E"s.

2026-04-14T11:04:20Z

‎Explanation: multi-message capability... Just use more or less "E"s.

Strike 2: Made explanation of EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE more focused on structuring, though maybe still errs on the communication side as ideas from the original paragraph are paraphrased and retained.

2026-04-14T10:36:30Z

Made explanation of EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE more focused on structuring, though maybe still errs on the communication side as ideas from the original paragraph are paraphrased and retained.

FaviFake: /* Explanation */ The joke is split into 3, not 2

2026-04-11T09:01:44Z

‎Explanation: The joke is split into 3, not 2

82.13.184.33: /* Explanation */

2026-04-09T08:15:27Z

‎Explanation

Somefan at 19:09, 8 April 2026

2026-04-08T19:09:19Z

82.132.239.217: /* Explanation */ It's better without using apostrophes for pluralisation purposes.

2026-04-08T04:47:24Z

‎Explanation: It's better without using apostrophes for pluralisation purposes.

Somefan: fix italic use on work, correct "letters E" -> "letter E's", and remove a redundant template

2026-04-08T02:53:55Z

fix italic use on work, correct "letters E" -> "letter E's", and remove a redundant template

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:07, 11 May 2026
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	==Explanation==		==Explanation==
−	~~{{incomplete\|Explanation of the second method should focus on language structure rather than communication.}}~~

	[[Miss Lenhart]] is shown teaching a classroom about {{w\|grammar}}, which is a system of rules describing how a certain language is structured. This is useful to make communication and meaning standardized and clear, with little to no difficulty in parsing. However, due to having many rules and structures to learn, the grammar of some languages can be viewed with annoyance by some people who wish it were 'simpler'. Miss Lenhart claims that grammar is "''one'' of the most popular ways to structure a language" and presents two alternative methods, but this is odd, as grammar ''is'' how we structure a language. Also, if the names of these 'rivals' illustrate their use, they reflect their own rules, and thus imply their own grammar. She also presents two alternative methods (though it could be interpreted as a list of four items without commas to split it up) that competed to substitute grammar, yet evidently never took off to be implemented for practical use. Despite seeming nonsensical, they've gained their own linguistic terminology:		[[Miss Lenhart]] is shown teaching a classroom about {{w\|grammar}}, which is a system of rules describing how a certain language is structured. This is useful to make communication and meaning standardized and clear, with little to no difficulty in parsing. However, due to having many rules and structures to learn, the grammar of some languages can be viewed with annoyance by some people who wish it were 'simpler'. Miss Lenhart claims that grammar is "''one'' of the most popular ways to structure a language" and presents two alternative methods, but this is odd, as grammar ''is'' how we structure a language. Also, if the names of these 'rivals' illustrate their use, they reflect their own rules, and thus imply their own grammar. She also presents two alternative methods (though it could be interpreted as a list of four items without commas to split it up) that competed to substitute grammar, yet evidently never took off to be implemented for practical use. Despite seeming nonsensical, they've gained their own linguistic terminology:

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 ;Communication is one of the most popular ways to transmit information, ahead of rivals such as
-:The title text continues Lenhart's lecture, as she moves on to {{w|communication}} and its rival alternatives, similar to the subject of grammar, but seems to cut off before naming the first one. Lenhart is self-demonstrating non-communication, as the sudden stop in the middle of the sentence could be a joke for how there are no other ways to convey information without communication. Still, this doesn't rule out at least one other 'rival' to communication, as Lenhart implies that at least one more method exists. If communication is defined as successful transmission of information, it is possible she is referring to some sort of method(s) that attempts, but fails to transmit information. Nonetheless, demonstrating lack of communication would not be useful in this setting without further explanation, as abruptly ceasing to provide more information could cause confusion in her students.
+:The title text continues Lenhart's lecture, as she moves on to {{w|communication}} and its rival alternatives, similar to the subject of grammar, but seems to cut off before naming the first one. Lenhart is self-demonstrating non-communication, as the sudden stop in the middle of the sentence could be a joke for how there are no other ways to convey information without communication, since communication is literally the act of conveying information. Still, this doesn't rule out at least one other 'rival' to communication, as Lenhart implies that at least one more method exists. If communication is defined as successful transmission of information, it is possible she is referring to some sort of method(s) that attempts, but fails to transmit information. Nonetheless, demonstrating lack of communication would not be useful in this setting without further explanation, as abruptly ceasing to provide more information could cause confusion in her students.
 ==Transcript==

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 ;EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
-:This proposes a very narrow method of structuring language consisting of only the capital letter "E". It could be argued that this method of structuring language is able to form a coherent idea, but the number of distinct ideas that may be formed using this method is only one, being a string of "E"s, which may represent an attempt to draw another's attention, unless the precise number of "E"s represents a raw {{w|Unary numeral system|value}} which can be indexed to distinct messages. A different scream-based method of communication was mentioned in [[3054: Scream Cipher]]. It has also been postulated that more complex ideas may be transferred through the use of encoding patterns such as Morse code or with other vowels. One of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter "E"s, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
+:This proposes a very narrow method of structuring language consisting of only the capital letter "E". It could be argued that this method of structuring language is able to form a coherent idea, but the number of distinct ideas that may be formed using this method is only one, being a string of "E"s, which may represent an attempt to draw another's attention, unless the precise number of "E"s represents a raw {{w|Unary numeral system|value}} which can be indexed to distinct messages. Messages could also be encoded by fluctuation of the volume or pitch of the scream. A different scream-based method of communication was mentioned in [[3054: Scream Cipher]]. It has also been postulated that more complex ideas may be transferred through the use of encoding patterns such as Morse code or with other vowels. One of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter "E"s, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
 ;Communication is one of the most popular ways to transmit information, ahead of rivals such as

@@ Line 18: / Line 18: @@
 ;EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
-:This proposes a very narrow method of structuring language consisting of only the capital letter "E". It could be argued that this method of structuring language is able to form a coherent idea, but the number of distinct ideas that may be formed using this method is only one, being a string of "E"s, which may represent an attempt to draw another's attention. A different scream-based method of communication was mentioned in [[3054: Scream Cipher]]. It has also been postulated that more complex ideas may be transferred through the use of encoding patterns such as Morse code or with other vowels. One of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter "E"s, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
+:This proposes a very narrow method of structuring language consisting of only the capital letter "E". It could be argued that this method of structuring language is able to form a coherent idea, but the number of distinct ideas that may be formed using this method is only one, being a string of "E"s, which may represent an attempt to draw another's attention, unless the precise number of "E"s represents a raw {{w|Unary numeral system|value}} which can be indexed to distinct messages. A different scream-based method of communication was mentioned in [[3054: Scream Cipher]]. It has also been postulated that more complex ideas may be transferred through the use of encoding patterns such as Morse code or with other vowels. One of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter "E"s, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
 ;Communication is one of the most popular ways to transmit information, ahead of rivals such as

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 ==Explanation==
-{{incomplete|Explanation of '''EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE''' should focus on grammar, not communication.}}
+{{incomplete|Explanation of the second method should focus on language structure rather than communication.}}
 [[Miss Lenhart]] is shown teaching a classroom about {{w|grammar}}, which is a system of rules describing how a certain language is structured. This is useful to make communication and meaning standardized and clear, with little to no difficulty in parsing. However, due to having many rules and structures to learn, the grammar of some languages can be viewed with annoyance by some people who wish it were 'simpler'. Miss Lenhart claims that grammar is "''one'' of the most popular ways to structure a language" and presents two alternative methods, but this is odd, as grammar ''is'' how we structure a language. Also, if the names of these 'rivals' illustrate their use, they reflect their own rules, and thus imply their own grammar. She also presents two alternative methods (though it could be interpreted as a list of four items without commas to split it up) that competed to substitute grammar, yet evidently never took off to be implemented for practical use. Despite seeming nonsensical, they've gained their own linguistic terminology:
@@ Line 18: / Line 18: @@
 ;EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
-:This might be referencing a scream as a form of communication. Screams are capable of communicating small amounts of information, primarily the fact that someone is attempting to draw one's attention, but cannot convey most concepts without use of complex, structured encoding patterns like Morse code (which do not appear to be present here). Alternatively, it could be made up of various random syllables, with others in the system too. (like 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' & 'OOOOOOOOOOOH'). It may also be a reference to one of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter "E"s, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
+:This proposes a very narrow method of structuring language consisting of only the capital letter "E". It could be argued that this method of structuring language is able to form a coherent idea, but the number of distinct ideas that may be formed using this method is only one, being a string of "E"s, which may represent an attempt to draw another's attention. A different scream-based method of communication was mentioned in [[3054: Scream Cipher]]. It has also been postulated that more complex ideas may be transferred through the use of encoding patterns such as Morse code or with other vowels. One of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter "E"s, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
 ;Communication is one of the most popular ways to transmit information, ahead of rivals such as

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	==Explanation==		==Explanation==
		+	{{incomplete\|Explanation of '''EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE''' should focus on grammar, not communication.}}

	[[Miss Lenhart]] is shown teaching a classroom about {{w\|grammar}}, which is a system of rules describing how a certain language is structured. This is useful to make communication and meaning standardized and clear, with little to no difficulty in parsing. However, due to having many rules and structures to learn, the grammar of some languages can be viewed with annoyance by some people who wish it were 'simpler'. Miss Lenhart claims that grammar is "''one'' of the most popular ways to structure a language" and presents two alternative methods, but this is odd, as grammar ''is'' how we structure a language. Also, if the names of these 'rivals' illustrate their use, they reflect their own rules, and thus imply their own grammar. She also presents two alternative methods (though it could be interpreted as a list of four items without commas to split it up) that competed to substitute grammar, yet evidently never took off to be implemented for practical use. Despite seeming nonsensical, they've gained their own linguistic terminology:		[[Miss Lenhart]] is shown teaching a classroom about {{w\|grammar}}, which is a system of rules describing how a certain language is structured. This is useful to make communication and meaning standardized and clear, with little to no difficulty in parsing. However, due to having many rules and structures to learn, the grammar of some languages can be viewed with annoyance by some people who wish it were 'simpler'. Miss Lenhart claims that grammar is "''one'' of the most popular ways to structure a language" and presents two alternative methods, but this is odd, as grammar ''is'' how we structure a language. Also, if the names of these 'rivals' illustrate their use, they reflect their own rules, and thus imply their own grammar. She also presents two alternative methods (though it could be interpreted as a list of four items without commas to split it up) that competed to substitute grammar, yet evidently never took off to be implemented for practical use. Despite seeming nonsensical, they've gained their own linguistic terminology:

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 ;EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
-:This might be referencing a scream as a form of communication. Screams are capable of communicating small amounts of information, primarily the fact that someone is attempting to draw one's attention, but cannot convey most concepts without use of complex, structured encoding patterns like Morse code (which do not appear to be present here). Alternatively, it could be made up of various random syllables, with others in the system too. (like 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' & 'OOOOOOOOOOOH'). It may also be a reference to one of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter E's, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
+:This might be referencing a scream as a form of communication. Screams are capable of communicating small amounts of information, primarily the fact that someone is attempting to draw one's attention, but cannot convey most concepts without use of complex, structured encoding patterns like Morse code (which do not appear to be present here). Alternatively, it could be made up of various random syllables, with others in the system too. (like 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' & 'OOOOOOOOOOOH'). It may also be a reference to one of the questions recorded in [[Randall]]'s ''[[What If? 2]]'', in the {{what if|2-58.5|Short Answers #5 chapter}}. The "question", posted by Nate Yu, was a string of 960 letter "E"s, to which Randall replied: "I feel you, Nate".
 The title text continues Lenhart's lecture, as she moves on to {{w|communication}} and its rival alternatives, similar to the subject of grammar, but seems to cut off before naming the first one. Lenhart is self-demonstrating non-communication, as the sudden stop in the middle of the sentence could be a joke for how there are no other ways to convey information without communication. Still, this doesn't rule at least one other 'rival' to communication, as Lenhart implies that at least one more method exists. If communication is defined as successful transmission of information, it is possible she is referring to some sort of method(s) that attempts, but fails to transmit information. Nonetheless, demonstrating lack of communication would not be useful in this setting without further explanation, as abruptly ceasing to provide more information could instill confusion in her students.