538: Security - Revision history

81.179.199.253: Undo revision 408314 by Amateurautist (talk) Modified undo... Kept/re-added the word "costs". But not sure why a wrench being large would be less useful, as being a lever is the point.

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Undo revision 408314 by Amateurautist (talk) Modified undo... Kept/re-added the word "costs". But not sure why a wrench being large would be less useful, as being a lever is the point.

Amateurautist: /* Explanation */ added an elaboration about the size of the wrench

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‎Explanation: added an elaboration about the size of the wrench

ClassicalGames: /* Transcript */

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‎Transcript

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NotaBene: /* Explanation */

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‎Explanation

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 To be resilient against this sort of "attack", cryptographers have devised schemes of {{w|deniable encryption}}, where attackers either cannot prove that encrypted information exists at all, or that allows the user to provide a password that reveals one (innocuous, or embarrassing but not illegal) secret without giving any indication that there is a second password that reveals the more important secret.
-The title text pokes fun at typical users, who do not have data that would be worth anything to anyone but themselves. Therefore, it is unlikely that the above situation would ever occur. Additionally, the wrench used in the second panel is large (about as long as the thief's arm, which would ironically make it less useful as a wrench but potentially more useful as a bludgeon), and presumably costs more than the $5 referenced by the thug.
+The title text pokes fun at typical users, who do not have data that would be worth anything to anyone but themselves. Therefore, it is unlikely that the above situation would ever occur. Additionally, the wrench used in the second panel is large, and presumably costs more than the $5 referenced by the thug.
 ==Transcript==

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 To be resilient against this sort of "attack", cryptographers have devised schemes of {{w|deniable encryption}}, where attackers either cannot prove that encrypted information exists at all, or that allows the user to provide a password that reveals one (innocuous, or embarrassing but not illegal) secret without giving any indication that there is a second password that reveals the more important secret.
-The title text pokes fun at typical users, who do not have data that would be worth anything to anyone but themselves. Therefore, it is unlikely that the above situation would ever occur. Additionally, the wrench used in the second panel is large, and presumably more than the $5 referenced by the thug.
+The title text pokes fun at typical users, who do not have data that would be worth anything to anyone but themselves. Therefore, it is unlikely that the above situation would ever occur. Additionally, the wrench used in the second panel is large (about as long as the thief's arm, which would ironically make it less useful as a wrench but potentially more useful as a bludgeon), and presumably costs more than the $5 referenced by the thug.
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 :Cueball: Blast! Our evil plan is foiled!
-:[Cueball is holding a a closed laptop down in one hand while giving his Cueball-like friend a wrench with the other. The friend reaches out for it. Above the top of the panels frame, there is a box with a caption:]
+:[Cueball is holding a closed laptop down in one hand while giving his Cueball-like friend a wrench with the other. The friend reaches out for it. Above the top of the panels frame, there is a box with a caption:]
 :What would actually happen:
 :Cueball: His laptop's encrypted. Drug him and hit him with this $5 wrench until he tells us the password.

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 ==Explanation==
-The "crypto nerd" would be concerned with strongly encrypting data on their personal machine. This would conceivably come in handy when "villains" attempt to steal information on his computer. The crypto nerd imagines that due to his advanced encryption, the crackers will be ultimately defeated. [[Randall]] suggests that in the real world, people with the desire to access this information would simply {{w|Rubber-hose cryptanalysis|use torture}} to coerce the nerd to give them the password. Both panels also reference the amount of money used to access the data. In the first the villain is willing to use millions of dollars to construct a {{w|TWIRL|super computer}} which may still not fulfill their aim, while in the second, he simply uses a $5 wrench and 'the personal touch'. The comic effectively states, completely accurately, that the weakest part of computer security is usually not the computer, but the user.
+The "crypto nerd" (short for cryptography in this case, not cryptocurrency, which was only invented a few months before this comic) would be concerned with strongly encrypting data on their personal machine. This would conceivably come in handy when "villains" attempt to steal information on his computer. The crypto nerd imagines that due to his advanced encryption, the crackers will be ultimately defeated. [[Randall]] suggests that in the real world, people with the desire to access this information would simply {{w|Rubber-hose cryptanalysis|use torture}} to coerce the nerd to give them the password. Both panels also reference the amount of money used to access the data. In the first the villain is willing to use millions of dollars to construct a {{w|TWIRL|super computer}} which may still not fulfill their aim, while in the second, he simply uses a $5 wrench and 'the personal touch'. The comic effectively states, completely accurately, that the weakest part of computer security is usually not the computer, but the user.
 {{w|RSA (algorithm)|RSA}} is a commonly used public key encryption method. Current standards typically use 1024, 2048, and (more recently) 4096 {{w|Key size|bit keys}}. These encryption methods are not yet (feasibly) breakable. A 4096-bit key will remain unbreakable for the foreseeable future.

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 | number    = 538
 | date      = February 2, 2009
-| title     = arab soyjak
+| title     = Security
-| image     = Osama bin Laden portrait.jpg
+| image     = security.png
-| titletext = :^)
+| titletext = Actual actual reality: nobody cares about his secrets. (Also, I would be hard-pressed to find that wrench for $5.)
 }}

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	{{w\|RSA (algorithm)\|RSA}} is a commonly used public key encryption method. Current standards typically use 1024, 2048, and (more recently) 4096 {{w\|Key size\|bit keys}}. These encryption methods are not yet (feasibly) breakable. A 4096-bit key will remain unbreakable for the foreseeable future.		{{w\|RSA (algorithm)\|RSA}} is a commonly used public key encryption method. Current standards typically use 1024, 2048, and (more recently) 4096 {{w\|Key size\|bit keys}}. These encryption methods are not yet (feasibly) breakable. A 4096-bit key will remain unbreakable for the foreseeable future.
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		+	To be resilient against this sort of "attack", cryptographers have devised schemes of {{w\|deniable encryption}}, where attackers either cannot prove that encrypted information exists at all, or that allows the user to provide a password that reveals one (innocuous, or embarrassing but not illegal) secret without giving any indication that there is a second password that reveals the more important secret.

	The title text pokes fun at typical users, who do not have data that would be worth anything to anyone but themselves. Therefore, it is unlikely that the above situation would ever occur. Additionally, the wrench used in the second panel is large, and presumably more than the $5 referenced by the thug.		The title text pokes fun at typical users, who do not have data that would be worth anything to anyone but themselves. Therefore, it is unlikely that the above situation would ever occur. Additionally, the wrench used in the second panel is large, and presumably more than the $5 referenced by the thug.