872: Fairy Tales - Revision history

130.76.187.33: /* Transcript */ cinderella

2026-02-03T01:08:16Z

‎Transcript: cinderella

82.132.237.203: /* Explanation */ Self-corrections/rewrites, plus some other bits.

2025-12-02T16:08:26Z

‎Explanation: Self-corrections/rewrites, plus some other bits.

82.132.237.203: /* Explanation / Rewrite the rewrite a bit. (And a bit more.) Didn't go into the old 'theory' that the "fur slipper" was Cinderella's pubic area, into which the Prince* decided he himself could satisfactorally 'fit' his own. ;)

2025-12-02T15:55:55Z

‎Explanation: Rewrite the rewrite a bit. (And a bit more.) Didn't go into the old 'theory' that the "fur slipper" was Cinderella's pubic area, into which the *Prince* decided he himself could satisfactorally 'fit' his own. ;)

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2025-12-02T01:49:46Z

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81.1.2.155: /* Explanation */

2025-06-13T12:29:59Z

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162.158.102.211: it's probably a reference to PCA

2024-08-21T09:34:34Z

it's probably a reference to PCA

172.70.90.177: /* Explanation */ punc.

2024-07-18T09:20:38Z

‎Explanation: punc.

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2024-07-18T03:28:56Z

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 {{w|Eigenvalues and eigenvectors|Eigenvectors}} are a mathematical concepts that can be applied to a {{w|Matrix (mathematics)|matrix}}. A matrix is mostly displayed as an rectangular array of elements used to describe the state of objects in physics. In pure mathematics they can be much more complex. The most important issue to the understanding of the comic is that a matrix can be transformed through various processes. These transformations can include rotation, movement and scaling of the object described by the matrix. An eigenvector refers to elements of the vector space of the matrix which remain unchanged (except possibly being scaled to be longer or shorter) after the transformation is applied. The prefix 'eigen-' applied to the term is adopted from the German word ''eigen'' for "self-" or "unique to", "peculiar to", or "belonging to." As the eigenvector remains unchanged through the transformation of the matrix it can be used to describe something unique about that matrix.
-The story of Cinderella includes Cinderella going to a ball in disguise, dancing with a prince and then leaving early and quickly, so that she accidentally leaves a very particular shoe behind. The versions of French, and ultimately widespread in English, origin tend to use a glass slipper (with the possible origin of the {{wiktionary|verre#Noun 2|glass}} originally being {{w|Vair|fur}}), while the Germanic tradition (often via {{w|Grimms' Fairy Tales}}) may use of golden footware, as do many non-European equivalent tales if they don't use other materials. The prince then uses the shoe's unique fit to identify Cinderella from amongst all the possible candidates. [[Megan]] says that, the way she learned it, the prince used an eigenvector and corresponding eigenvalue to match the shoe to its owner. Eigenvectors are a basis of statistical {{w|principal component analysis}}, a procedure in which a set of points in N-dimensional space (each of which represents an observation) are rotated in such a way that the cloud of points has its largest extent along the X-axis, then along the Y-axis, and so on. The prince could probably use this procedure on the inner dimensions first of {{w|Cinderella}}'s shoe and then also all candidate feet to determine their respective degree of fit, although it would be an extremely complicated way to do this compared to just directly comparing like-for-like measurements with a ruler or tailor's tape.
+The story of Cinderella includes Cinderella going to a ball in disguise, dancing with a prince and then leaving early and quickly, so that she accidentally leaves a very particular shoe behind. The versions of primarily French origin, that ultimately became widespread in English, tend to describe a glass slipper (with the possible origin of the '{{wiktionary|verre#Noun 2|glass}}' originally being '{{w|Vair|fur}}'), while the Germanic tradition (often via {{w|Grimms' Fairy Tales}}) make use of golden footware, as do many non-European equivalent tales if they don't use other materials. The prince then uses the shoe's apparently unique fit to identify Cinderella from amongst all the possible candidates. [[Megan]] says that, the way she learned it, the prince used an eigenvector and corresponding eigenvalue to match the shoe to its owner. Eigenvectors are a basis of statistical {{w|principal component analysis}}, a procedure in which a set of points in N-dimensional space (each of which represents an observation) are rotated in such a way that the cloud of points has its largest extent along the X-axis, then along the Y-axis, and so on. The prince could probably use this procedure on the inner dimensions first of {{w|Cinderella}}'s shoe and then also all candidate feet to determine their respective degree of fit, although it would be an extremely complicated way to do this compared to just directly comparing like-for-like measurements with a ruler or tailor's tape.
 Megan explains that her mother, a math professor (drawn as [[Hairbun]] with glasses) would continue to talk when she fell asleep in the midst of reading bed time stories, and then would ramble on mixing the adventures with the math from her work. The middle panel refers to the story of {{w|The Ant and the Grasshopper}} with the addition of what is likely a reference to the {{w|Poincaré conjecture}}, a (now-misnamed) theorem in mathematics.
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 Megan explains that even today she is not sure which versions are the real ones. Cueball cannot understand how she would not have noticed the drastic subject changes (which seems obvious to adults, but maybe not to small children).
-Megan then mentions two other story changes, the first ''Inductive White and the (''n''−1) Dwarfs'' was better than the original. The story is a combination of {{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}} with the {{w|Mathematical induction|principle of induction}}. But ''The lim<sub>x→∞</sub>(x) Little Pigs'' was a little weird toward the end. That story combines the {{w|Three Little Pigs}} with {{w|Limit (mathematics)|mathematical limits}}. The reason it got weird toward the end was (likely) because the number of pigs tends to infinity as the story progresses.
+Megan then mentions two other story changes, the first ''Inductive White and the (''n''−1) Dwarfs'' was better than the original. The story is a combination of {{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}} with the {{w|Mathematical induction|principle of induction}}. But ''The lim<sub>x→∞</sub>(x) Little Pigs'' was a little weird toward the end. That story combines the {{w|Three Little Pigs}} with {{w|Limit (mathematics)|mathematical limits}}. The reason it got weird toward the end (probably even weirder than ''[[821: Five-Minute Comics: Part 3|The 119 Little Pigs]] did'') was likely because the number of pigs tends to infinity as the story progresses, and this also makes it difficult to see how there {{w|Zeno's paradoxes|could be}} an actual end.
 Each of the stories has a varied degree of similarity to the mathematical concepts that were mixed in as though her mom began to talk about a mathematical principle that may have been brought to mind while reading the story or already on her mind.

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 {{w|Eigenvalues and eigenvectors|Eigenvectors}} are a mathematical concepts that can be applied to a {{w|Matrix (mathematics)|matrix}}. A matrix is mostly displayed as an rectangular array of elements used to describe the state of objects in physics. In pure mathematics they can be much more complex. The most important issue to the understanding of the comic is that a matrix can be transformed through various processes. These transformations can include rotation, movement and scaling of the object described by the matrix. An eigenvector refers to elements of the vector space of the matrix which remain unchanged (except possibly being scaled to be longer or shorter) after the transformation is applied. The prefix 'eigen-' applied to the term is adopted from the German word ''eigen'' for "self-" or "unique to", "peculiar to", or "belonging to." As the eigenvector remains unchanged through the transformation of the matrix it can be used to describe something unique about that matrix.
-The story of Cinderella includes Cinderella going to a ball in disguise, dancing with a prince and then leaving early and quickly, so that she accidentally leaves a shoe behind (made of gold in German versions of the story or glass in French and English versions). The prince then uses the shoe to find Cinderella. [[Megan]] says that the way she learned it, the prince used an eigenvector and corresponding eigenvalue to match the shoe to its owner.
+The story of Cinderella includes Cinderella going to a ball in disguise, dancing with a prince and then leaving early and quickly, so that she accidentally leaves a very particular shoe behind. The versions of French, and ultimately widespread in English, origin tend to use a glass slipper (with the possible origin of the {{wiktionary|verre#Noun 2|glass}} originally being {{w|Vair|fur}}), while the Germanic tradition (often via {{w|Grimms' Fairy Tales}}) may use of golden footware, as do many non-European equivalent tales if they don't use other materials. The prince then uses the shoe's unique fit to identify Cinderella from amongst all the possible candidates. [[Megan]] says that, the way she learned it, the prince used an eigenvector and corresponding eigenvalue to match the shoe to its owner. Eigenvectors are a basis of statistical {{w|principal component analysis}}, a procedure in which a set of points in N-dimensional space (each of which represents an observation) are rotated in such a way that the cloud of points has its largest extent along the X-axis, then along the Y-axis, and so on. The prince could probably use this procedure on the inner dimensions first of {{w|Cinderella}}'s shoe and then also all candidate feet to determine their respective degree of fit, although it would be an extremely complicated way to do this compared to just directly comparing like-for-like measurements with a ruler or tailor's tape.
 Megan explains that her mother, a math professor (drawn as [[Hairbun]] with glasses) would continue to talk when she fell asleep in the midst of reading bed time stories, and then would ramble on mixing the adventures with the math from her work. The middle panel refers to the story of {{w|The Ant and the Grasshopper}} with the addition of what is likely a reference to the {{w|Poincaré conjecture}}, a (now-misnamed) theorem in mathematics.

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 {{w|Eigenvalues and eigenvectors|Eigenvectors}} are a mathematical concepts that can be applied to a {{w|Matrix (mathematics)|matrix}}. A matrix is mostly displayed as an rectangular array of elements used to describe the state of objects in physics. In pure mathematics they can be much more complex. The most important issue to the understanding of the comic is that a matrix can be transformed through various processes. These transformations can include rotation, movement and scaling of the object described by the matrix. An eigenvector refers to elements of the vector space of the matrix which remain unchanged (except possibly being scaled to be longer or shorter) after the transformation is applied. The prefix 'eigen-' applied to the term is adopted from the German word ''eigen'' for "self-" or "unique to", "peculiar to", or "belonging to." As the eigenvector remains unchanged through the transformation of the matrix it can be used to describe something unique about that matrix.
-The story of Cinderella includes Cinderella going to a ball in disguise, dancing with a prince and then leaving early and quickly, so that she accidentally leaves a glass slipper behind. The prince then uses the shoe to find Cinderella. [[Megan]] says that the way she learned it, the prince used an eigenvector and corresponding eigenvalue to match the shoe to its owner.
+The story of Cinderella includes Cinderella going to a ball in disguise, dancing with a prince and then leaving early and quickly, so that she accidentally leaves a shoe behind (made of gold in German versions of the story or glass in French and English versions). The prince then uses the shoe to find Cinderella. [[Megan]] says that the way she learned it, the prince used an eigenvector and corresponding eigenvalue to match the shoe to its owner.
-Eigenvectors are a basis of statistical {{w|Principal component analysis}}, a procedure in which a set of points in N-dimensional space (each of which represents an observation) is rotated in such a way, that the cloud of points has its largest extent along the X-axis, then along the Y-axis, and so on. The prince could probably use this procedure on the {{w|Cinderella}}'s shoe to determine its size, although it would be an extremely complicated way to do this compared to simply measuring with a ruler or tailor's tape.
+Eigenvectors are a basis of statistical {{w|Principal component analysis}}, a procedure in which a set of points in N-dimensional space (each of which represents an observation) is rotated in such a way, that the cloud of points has its largest extent along the X-axis, then along the Y-axis, and so on. The prince could probably use this procedure on {{w|Cinderella}}'s shoe to determine its size, although it would be an extremely complicated way to do this compared to simply measuring with a ruler or tailor's tape.
 Megan explains that her mother, a math professor (drawn as [[Hairbun]] with glasses) would continue to talk when she fell asleep in the midst of reading bed time stories, and then would ramble on mixing the adventures with the math from her work. The middle panel refers to the story of {{w|The Ant and the Grasshopper}} with the addition of what is likely a reference to the {{w|Poincaré conjecture}}, a (now-misnamed) theorem in mathematics.

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 Megan explains that even today she is not sure which versions are the real ones. Cueball cannot understand how she would not have noticed the drastic subject changes (which seems obvious to adults, but maybe not to small children).
-Megan then mentions two other story changes, the first ''Inductive White and the (''n''−1) Dwarfs'' was better than the original. The story is a combination of {{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}} with the {{w|Mathematical induction|principle of induction}}. But ''The lim<sub>x→∞</sub>(x) Little Pigs'' was a little weird toward the end. That story combines the {{w|Three Little Pigs}} with {{w|Limit (mathematics)|mathematical limits}}. The reason it got weird toward the end was because the number of pigs tends to infinity as the story progresses.
+Megan then mentions two other story changes, the first ''Inductive White and the (''n''−1) Dwarfs'' was better than the original. The story is a combination of {{w|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs}} with the {{w|Mathematical induction|principle of induction}}. But ''The lim<sub>x→∞</sub>(x) Little Pigs'' was a little weird toward the end. That story combines the {{w|Three Little Pigs}} with {{w|Limit (mathematics)|mathematical limits}}. The reason it got weird toward the end was (likely) because the number of pigs tends to infinity as the story progresses.
 Each of the stories has a varied degree of similarity to the mathematical concepts that were mixed in as though her mom began to talk about a mathematical principle that may have been brought to mind while reading the story or already on her mind.

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 {{w|Eigenvalues and eigenvectors|Eigenvectors}} are a mathematical concepts that can be applied to a {{w|Matrix (mathematics)|matrix}}. A matrix is mostly displayed as an rectangular array of elements used to describe the state of objects in physics. In pure mathematics they can be much more complex. The most important issue to the understanding of the comic is that a matrix can be transformed through various processes. These transformations can include rotation, movement and scaling of the object described by the matrix. An eigenvector refers to elements of the vector space of the matrix which remain unchanged (except possibly being scaled to be longer or shorter) after the transformation is applied. The prefix 'eigen-' applied to the term is adopted from the German word ''eigen'' for "self-" or "unique to", "peculiar to", or "belonging to." As the eigenvector remains unchanged through the transformation of the matrix it can be used to describe something unique about that matrix.
-The concept of an eigenvector has nothing to do with the fairy tale {{w|Cinderella}}{{citation needed}}; therefore [[Megan]]  confuses [[Cueball]] when she asks whether it occurred in the story of Cinderella.
+The concept of an eigenvector has nothing to do with the fairy tale {{w|Cinderella}};{{Citation needed}} therefore [[Megan]] confuses [[Cueball]] when she asks whether it occurred in the story of Cinderella.
 The story of Cinderella includes Cinderella going to a ball in disguise, dancing with a prince and then leaving early and quickly, so that she accidentally leaves a glass slipper behind. The prince then uses the shoe to find Cinderella. Megan says that the way she learned it, the prince used an eigenvector and corresponding eigenvalue to match the shoe to its owner. This is a somewhat logical mathematical connection to make as eigenvectors, unchanged properties of mathematical matrices that may allow for mathematical identification of the changed matrix, correspond to the unchangeable property of the shoe (size) that allowed the prince to correctly identify the owner of the shoe even after the shoe was misplaced. Eigenvectors are sometimes used in facial-recognition software to match 2 faces.

872: Fairy Tales - Revision history

130.76.187.33: /* Transcript */ cinderella

82.132.237.203: /* Explanation */ Self-corrections/rewrites, plus some other bits.

82.132.237.203: /* Explanation */ Rewrite the rewrite a bit. (And a bit more.) Didn't go into the old 'theory' that the "fur slipper" was Cinderella's pubic area, into which the *Prince* decided he himself could satisfactorally 'fit' his own. ;)

183231bcb: /* Explanation */

81.1.2.155: /* Explanation */

162.158.102.211: it's probably a reference to PCA

172.70.90.177: /* Explanation */ punc.

172.71.154.225: /* Explanation */

Theusaf: Reverted edits by Donald Trump (talk) to last revision by CRLF

Donald Trump: Reverted edit by anti-crap user

82.132.237.203: /* Explanation / Rewrite the rewrite a bit. (And a bit more.) Didn't go into the old 'theory' that the "fur slipper" was Cinderella's pubic area, into which the Prince* decided he himself could satisfactorally 'fit' his own. ;)