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 ==Transcript==
 :[Cueball to the left and his friend, who also looks like Cueball, are standing in the friend's rather large basement, where the celling is held up by six thin columns, and the walls are shown angling in towards a point of perspective, to display how big the room is.]
-:Friend: I want to build a perfect HO-scale (~1/87) model train layout of my town.
+:Cueball: I want to build a perfect HO-scale (~1/87) model train layout of my town.
-:Cueball: In your basement? Bad idea. Never make a layout of the area you're in.
+:Friend: In your basement? Bad idea. Never make a layout of the area you're in.
 :[Zoom in on the two friends without the basement visualized.]
-:Friend: Why not?
+:Cueball: Why not?
-:Cueball: Because it'd include a little 10" replica of your house.
+:Friend: Because it'd include a little 10" replica of your house.
-:[Zoom in Cueball's friend who takes his hand to his chin.]
+:[Zoom in on Cueball who takes his hand to his chin.]
-:Friend: So? That's be cool! I'd make tiny replicas of my rooms, my furniture—
+:Cueball: So? That's be cool! I'd make tiny replicas of my rooms, my furniture—
-:Cueball (off-screen): —And your train layout?
+:Friend (off-screen): —And your train layout?
 :[Beneath this first row of the comic is the zoom-out of how the full model would look in the basement. The town lies beneath some small mountains. There is some water with a bridge over it continuing to the roads going through the city. There is no frame around this section, but instead there follows five zoom-outs, each one going from the friend's house, that proceeds to a circular frame. Within each of these is shown a nested model. Starting to the right of the main model, and then moving down, then left, and then down and right. Each layer has a broken arrow above the model between two vertical lines to indicate the scale, the length being written between the two parts of the arrow. Some foreign objects are also labeled to help understand the scale.]
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 :[Back to the two friends in the basement, still not showing the basement.]
-:Friend: My God.
+:Cueball: My God.
-:Cueball: Yeah. It's the second rule of model train layouts: No nesting.
+:Friend: Yeah. It's the second rule of model train layouts: No nesting.
 :[Zoom in on the heads of the two friends.]
-:Friend: ...What's the first rule?
+:Cueball: ...What's the first rule?
-:Cueball: "Do ''not'' talk about model train layouts." That rule was actually voted in by our friends and families.
+:Friend: "Do ''not'' talk about model train layouts." That rule was actually voted in by our friends and families.
-:Friend: Philistines.
+:Cueball: Philistines.
 ==Trivia==

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 In model rail construction, the {{w|HO scale}} refers to the most popular scale for modeling railroads, in which 3.5 millimeters in the model corresponds to 1 real-world Imperial foot. As the comic suggests, it works out to a ratio of about 1:87.1 (or 3048:35 exactly, which equals 1:87.0<span style="text-decoration:overline;text-decoration-style: single;">857142</span>). In Europe, the scale is defined as exactly 1:87 instead, to avoid references to non-metric measurements.
-This comic features [[:Category:Multiple Cueballs|two Cueballs]] conversing; we'll refer to them as Lefty and Righty to avoid confusion. The conversation takes place in Lefty's basement. Lefty is apparently a less-experienced train modeler, and he tells Righty that he wants to make an HO model layout of his town. However, the more-experienced Righty points out that this is a bad idea, due to nesting. To make it a perfectly accurate model, Lefty would have to include a model of his house, which includes his basement, which includes the model. So, he would have to make a model of the model, which will include a smaller model of the model, and so forth. This is illustrated in the comic. Real world examples of nested models include the {{W|Bourton-on-the-Water model village}}, which includes 4 levels of nested models. Artwork that includes a depiction of itself is known as the {{W|Droste effect}}.
+This comic features [[Cueball]] and his [[:Category:Multiple Cueballs|Cueball-like friend]]. The conversation takes place in Cueball’s basement. Cueball is apparently a less-experienced train modeler, and he tells his friend that he wants to make an HO model layout of his town. However, the more-experienced friend points out that this is a bad idea, due to nesting. To make it a perfectly accurate model, Cueball would have to include a model of his house, which includes his basement, which includes the model. So, he would have to make a model of the model, which will include a smaller model of the model, and so forth. This is illustrated in the comic. Real world examples of nested models include the {{W|Bourton-on-the-Water model village}}, which includes 4 levels of nested models. Artwork that includes a depiction of itself is known as the {{W|Droste effect}}.
 At the end of these six nested models ''The Matryoshka limit'' is stated: "It is impossible to nest more than six HO layouts". {{w|Matryoshka doll|Matryoshka dolls}} are toys of Russian origin that can be stacked inside one another. Here, the "Matryoshka limit" is the hard barrier that follows as a result of the nesting. Matter is not infinitely divisible; once one gets to the level of atoms, it is impossibly difficult to go any smaller. The unit shown in the last diagram is the {{w|Angstrom|ångström}}, a very small unit of measurement (1/10000th of a {{w|micrometre}}, 1/10 of a {{w|nanometre}}, 100 {{w|picometre}}s or 10<sup>−10</sup> m) which was created when humans started discovering objects on an atomic scale, such as crystal structures or wavelengths. The last nested model looks like the atoms on a surface as seen using a {{w|scanning tunneling microscope}} (STM).

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 ==Explanation==
-In model rail construction, the {{w|HO scale}} refers to the most popular scale for modeling railroads, in which 3.5 millimeters in the model corresponds to 1 real-world Imperial foot. As the comic suggests, it works out to a ratio of about 1:87.1 (or 3048:35 exactly, which equals 1:87.08̄5̄7̄1̄4̄2̄). In Europe, the scale is defined as exactly 1:87 instead, to avoid references to non-metric measurements.
+In model rail construction, the {{w|HO scale}} refers to the most popular scale for modeling railroads, in which 3.5 millimeters in the model corresponds to 1 real-world Imperial foot. As the comic suggests, it works out to a ratio of about 1:87.1 (or 3048:35 exactly, which equals 1:87.0<span style="text-decoration:overline;text-decoration-style: single;">857142</span>). In Europe, the scale is defined as exactly 1:87 instead, to avoid references to non-metric measurements.
 This comic features [[:Category:Multiple Cueballs|two Cueballs]] conversing; we'll refer to them as Lefty and Righty to avoid confusion. The conversation takes place in Lefty's basement. Lefty is apparently a less-experienced train modeler, and he tells Righty that he wants to make an HO model layout of his town. However, the more-experienced Righty points out that this is a bad idea, due to nesting. To make it a perfectly accurate model, Lefty would have to include a model of his house, which includes his basement, which includes the model. So, he would have to make a model of the model, which will include a smaller model of the model, and so forth. This is illustrated in the comic. Real world examples of nested models include the {{W|Bourton-on-the-Water model village}}, which includes 4 levels of nested models. Artwork that includes a depiction of itself is known as the {{W|Droste effect}}.

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 In model rail construction, the {{w|HO scale}} refers to the most popular scale for modeling railroads, in which 3.5 millimeters in the model corresponds to 1 real-world Imperial foot. As the comic suggests, it works out to a ratio of about 1:87.1 (or 3048:35 exactly, which equals 1:87.08̄5̄7̄1̄4̄2̄). In Europe, the scale is defined as exactly 1:87 instead, to avoid references to non-metric measurements.
-This comic features [[:Category:Multiple Cueballs|two Cueballs]] conversing; we'll refer to them as Lefty and Righty to avoid confusion. The conversation takes place in Lefty's basement. Lefty is apparently a less-experienced train modeler, and he tells Righty that he wants to make an HO model layout of his town. However, the more-experienced Righty points out that this is a bad idea, due to nesting. To make it a perfectly accurate model, Lefty would have to include a model of his house, which includes his basement, which includes the model. So, he would have to make a model of the model, which will include a smaller model of the model, and so forth. This is illustrated in the comic.
+This comic features [[:Category:Multiple Cueballs|two Cueballs]] conversing; we'll refer to them as Lefty and Righty to avoid confusion. The conversation takes place in Lefty's basement. Lefty is apparently a less-experienced train modeler, and he tells Righty that he wants to make an HO model layout of his town. However, the more-experienced Righty points out that this is a bad idea, due to nesting. To make it a perfectly accurate model, Lefty would have to include a model of his house, which includes his basement, which includes the model. So, he would have to make a model of the model, which will include a smaller model of the model, and so forth. This is illustrated in the comic. Real world examples of nested models include the {{W|Bourton-on-the-Water model village}}, which includes 4 levels of nested models. Artwork that includes a depiction of itself is known as the {{W|Droste effect}}.
 At the end of these six nested models ''The Matryoshka limit'' is stated: "It is impossible to nest more than six HO layouts". {{w|Matryoshka doll|Matryoshka dolls}} are toys of Russian origin that can be stacked inside one another. Here, the "Matryoshka limit" is the hard barrier that follows as a result of the nesting. Matter is not infinitely divisible; once one gets to the level of atoms, it is impossibly difficult to go any smaller. The unit shown in the last diagram is the {{w|Angstrom|ångström}}, a very small unit of measurement (1/10000th of a {{w|micrometre}}, 1/10 of a {{w|nanometre}}, 100 {{w|picometre}}s or 10<sup>−10</sup> m) which was created when humans started discovering objects on an atomic scale, such as crystal structures or wavelengths. The last nested model looks like the atoms on a surface as seen using a {{w|scanning tunneling microscope}} (STM).

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 ==Trivia==
 * The city of Bourton-on-the-Water, Gloucestershire, England actually contains {{w|Bourton-on-the-Water model village|such a model}}. Although, it only has 4 nestings, and is built at a larger scale.
 * The {{w|Miniatur Wunderland|Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg (Germany)}}, the biggest model rail construction in the world, contains a 1:7500 version of the Miniatur Wunderland with movable vehicles.
 * It should be noted that the day this comic went up, it was then repeatedly referenced in the HO talk page by several people commenting on the arguable triviality of the edit war.