Talk:1124: Law of Drama - Revision history

The Cat Lady at 22:07, 10 September 2021

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Davidy22 at 02:46, 5 March 2015

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FlyingPiggy: I added a comment

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Davidy22 at 17:52, 16 January 2015

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Weatherlawyer at 15:31, 16 January 2015

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Weatherlawyer at 15:28, 16 January 2015

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David.windsor at 21:36, 6 December 2013

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87.57.147.173 at 11:01, 27 October 2012

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76.122.5.96 at 19:41, 23 October 2012

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Alanthecowboy at 13:32, 23 October 2012

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	:: At this point in the discourse, I'm reminded of a real-scientist friend who admonished me once for reading too much into some data, and it seems applicable here, too. To wit: the axes are not labeled with units -- no tick marks to be seen anywhere -- nor is it clear what sort of axes are in use: log, {{w\|logit}}, {{w\|probit}}? Randall, not being the naïve sort, likely understands this, and merely shows us a graph that suggest a slightly accelerating direct relationship between the two axes. If the axes are linear, the curve has the characteristic upward swing of an exponential, but we don't ''know'' that, and any conjecture beyond observable facts is inappropriate. To leap to application of, say {{w\|Levenberg-Marquardt}}, seems folly. (As an aside, I'm reminded of the old Benny Hill skit, where he's a movie director being interviewed on some talking-heads show; says the interviewer: "I particularly enjoyed the poignancy of suddenly switching to black and white film right as..." Benny Hill: "Rubbish, we just ran out of film, and black and white was all we had left.") -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 14:23, 22 October 2012 (UTC)		:: At this point in the discourse, I'm reminded of a real-scientist friend who admonished me once for reading too much into some data, and it seems applicable here, too. To wit: the axes are not labeled with units -- no tick marks to be seen anywhere -- nor is it clear what sort of axes are in use: log, {{w\|logit}}, {{w\|probit}}? Randall, not being the naïve sort, likely understands this, and merely shows us a graph that suggest a slightly accelerating direct relationship between the two axes. If the axes are linear, the curve has the characteristic upward swing of an exponential, but we don't ''know'' that, and any conjecture beyond observable facts is inappropriate. To leap to application of, say {{w\|Levenberg-Marquardt}}, seems folly. (As an aside, I'm reminded of the old Benny Hill skit, where he's a movie director being interviewed on some talking-heads show; says the interviewer: "I particularly enjoyed the poignancy of suddenly switching to black and white film right as..." Benny Hill: "Rubbish, we just ran out of film, and black and white was all we had left.") -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 14:23, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
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		+	:::Sometimes the comments are better than the comic. This is one of those times :) [[User:The Cat Lady\|-- The Cat Lady]] ([[User talk:The Cat Lady\|talk]]) 22:07, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

	I was trying to figure out how the title text could make sense grammatically, but now I think it was just written in the form of a vague, 'dramatic', facebook post. Is it just me? [[User:Alanthecowboy\|Alanthecowboy]] ([[User talk:Alanthecowboy\|talk]]) 13:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)		I was trying to figure out how the title text could make sense grammatically, but now I think it was just written in the form of a vague, 'dramatic', facebook post. Is it just me? [[User:Alanthecowboy\|Alanthecowboy]] ([[User talk:Alanthecowboy\|talk]]) 13:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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−	~~Just once I want to see or hear this sentence: "God I just feel like I'm always surrounded by so much drama, y'know? Guess that's what I get for working in a theatre!" - FlyingPiggy~~
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	Regarding the transcript: I don't think you have enough data to characterize this short curve as exponential. What does "slightly exponential" mean, anyway? In any case, it looks like it becomes linear as the x values increase. --[[User:Prooffreader\|Prooffreader]] ([[User talk:Prooffreader\|talk]]) 11:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)		Regarding the transcript: I don't think you have enough data to characterize this short curve as exponential. What does "slightly exponential" mean, anyway? In any case, it looks like it becomes linear as the x values increase. --[[User:Prooffreader\|Prooffreader]] ([[User talk:Prooffreader\|talk]]) 11:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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	:Ho hum, 'twas ever thus![[User:Weatherlawyer\| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer\|talk]]) 15:28, 16 January 2015 (UTC)		:Ho hum, 'twas ever thus![[User:Weatherlawyer\| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer\|talk]]) 15:28, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Just once I want to see or hear this sentence: "God I just feel like I'm always surrounded by so much drama, y'know? Guess that's what I get for working in a theatre!" - FlyingPiggy

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		+	Just once I want to see or hear this sentence: "God I just feel like I'm always surrounded by so much drama, y'know? Guess that's what I get for working in a theatre!" - FlyingPiggy
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	Regarding the transcript: I don't think you have enough data to characterize this short curve as exponential. What does "slightly exponential" mean, anyway? In any case, it looks like it becomes linear as the x values increase. --[[User:Prooffreader\|Prooffreader]] ([[User talk:Prooffreader\|talk]]) 11:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)		Regarding the transcript: I don't think you have enough data to characterize this short curve as exponential. What does "slightly exponential" mean, anyway? In any case, it looks like it becomes linear as the x values increase. --[[User:Prooffreader\|Prooffreader]] ([[User talk:Prooffreader\|talk]]) 11:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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 If we can figure out who "They" are, we'll have this solved in a jiffy. [[User:David.windsor|David.windsor]] ([[User talk:David.windsor|talk]]) 21:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
-"They" are the independent, obviously and the "declaration" is of Independence, equally obviously. We, on the other hand, were quite alright without them and then some pricks with absolutely no hold on reality put Winston Churchill in power.
+:"They" are the independent, obviously and the "declaration" is of Independence, equally obviously. We, on the other hand, were quite alright without them and then some pricks with absolutely no hold on reality put Winston Churchill in power.
-Ho hum, 'twas ever thus![[User:Weatherlawyer| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer|talk]]) 15:28, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
+:Ho hum, 'twas ever thus![[User:Weatherlawyer| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer|talk]]) 15:28, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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 If we can figure out who "They" are, we'll have this solved in a jiffy. [[User:David.windsor|David.windsor]] ([[User talk:David.windsor|talk]]) 21:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
-"They" are the independent, obviously and the declaration is of Independence, equally obviously. We on the other hand were quite alright without them and then some pricks with absolutely no hold on reality put Winston Churchill in power.
+"They" are the independent, obviously and the "declaration" is of Independence, equally obviously. We, on the other hand, were quite alright without them and then some pricks with absolutely no hold on reality put Winston Churchill in power.
 Ho hum, 'twas ever thus![[User:Weatherlawyer| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer|talk]]) 15:28, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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	If we can figure out who "They" are, we'll have this solved in a jiffy. [[User:David.windsor\|David.windsor]] ([[User talk:David.windsor\|talk]]) 21:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)		If we can figure out who "They" are, we'll have this solved in a jiffy. [[User:David.windsor\|David.windsor]] ([[User talk:David.windsor\|talk]]) 21:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
		+	"They" are the independent, obviously and the declaration is of Independence, equally obviously. We on the other hand were quite alright without them and then some pricks with absolutely no hold on reality put Winston Churchill in power.
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		+	Ho hum, 'twas ever thus![[User:Weatherlawyer\| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer\|talk]]) 15:28, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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	The title is probably influenced by the concept of dharma from Indian philosophy- the "natural law". [[Special:Contributions/87.57.147.173\|87.57.147.173]] 11:01, 27 October 2012 (UTC) mb		The title is probably influenced by the concept of dharma from Indian philosophy- the "natural law". [[Special:Contributions/87.57.147.173\|87.57.147.173]] 11:01, 27 October 2012 (UTC) mb
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		+	If we can figure out who "They" are, we'll have this solved in a jiffy. [[User:David.windsor\|David.windsor]] ([[User talk:David.windsor\|talk]]) 21:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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	As someone that has been through several drama classes, as well as a high school club, I've always found the phrases "causing drama" and "too much drama" to be really irritating. You can never have too much drama! (You can have too much comedy, though.) [[Special:Contributions/76.122.5.96\|76.122.5.96]] 19:41, 23 October 2012 (UTC)		As someone that has been through several drama classes, as well as a high school club, I've always found the phrases "causing drama" and "too much drama" to be really irritating. You can never have too much drama! (You can have too much comedy, though.) [[Special:Contributions/76.122.5.96\|76.122.5.96]] 19:41, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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		+	The title is probably influenced by the concept of dharma from Indian philosophy- the "natural law". [[Special:Contributions/87.57.147.173\|87.57.147.173]] 11:01, 27 October 2012 (UTC) mb

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	I was trying to figure out how the title text could make sense grammatically, but now I think it was just written in the form of a vague, 'dramatic', facebook post. Is it just me? [[User:Alanthecowboy\|Alanthecowboy]] ([[User talk:Alanthecowboy\|talk]]) 13:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)		I was trying to figure out how the title text could make sense grammatically, but now I think it was just written in the form of a vague, 'dramatic', facebook post. Is it just me? [[User:Alanthecowboy\|Alanthecowboy]] ([[User talk:Alanthecowboy\|talk]]) 13:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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		+	As someone that has been through several drama classes, as well as a high school club, I've always found the phrases "causing drama" and "too much drama" to be really irritating. You can never have too much drama! (You can have too much comedy, though.) [[Special:Contributions/76.122.5.96\|76.122.5.96]] 19:41, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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	:: At this point in the discourse, I'm reminded of a real-scientist friend who admonished me once for reading too much into some data, and it seems applicable here, too. To wit: the axes are not labeled with units -- no tick marks to be seen anywhere -- nor is it clear what sort of axes are in use: log, {{w\|logit}}, {{w\|probit}}? Randall, not being the naïve sort, likely understands this, and merely shows us a graph that suggest a slightly accelerating direct relationship between the two axes. If the axes are linear, the curve has the characteristic upward swing of an exponential, but we don't ''know'' that, and any conjecture beyond observable facts is inappropriate. To leap to application of, say {{w\|Levenberg-Marquardt}}, seems folly. (As an aside, I'm reminded of the old Benny Hill skit, where he's a movie director being interviewed on some talking-heads show; says the interviewer: "I particularly enjoyed the poignancy of suddenly switching to black and white film right as..." Benny Hill: "Rubbish, we just ran out of film, and black and white was all we had left.") -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 14:23, 22 October 2012 (UTC)		:: At this point in the discourse, I'm reminded of a real-scientist friend who admonished me once for reading too much into some data, and it seems applicable here, too. To wit: the axes are not labeled with units -- no tick marks to be seen anywhere -- nor is it clear what sort of axes are in use: log, {{w\|logit}}, {{w\|probit}}? Randall, not being the naïve sort, likely understands this, and merely shows us a graph that suggest a slightly accelerating direct relationship between the two axes. If the axes are linear, the curve has the characteristic upward swing of an exponential, but we don't ''know'' that, and any conjecture beyond observable facts is inappropriate. To leap to application of, say {{w\|Levenberg-Marquardt}}, seems folly. (As an aside, I'm reminded of the old Benny Hill skit, where he's a movie director being interviewed on some talking-heads show; says the interviewer: "I particularly enjoyed the poignancy of suddenly switching to black and white film right as..." Benny Hill: "Rubbish, we just ran out of film, and black and white was all we had left.") -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 14:23, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

−	I was trying to figure out how the title text could make sense grammatically, but now I think it was just written in the form of a vague, 'dramatic', facebook post. Is it just me? [[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/206.248.172.42~~\|~~206.248.172.42~~]] 13:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)	+	I was trying to figure out how the title text could make sense grammatically, but now I think it was just written in the form of a vague, 'dramatic', facebook post. Is it just me? [[User:Alanthecowboy\|Alanthecowboy]] ([[User talk:Alanthecowboy\|talk]]) 13:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)