Talk:1255: Columbus - Revision history

82.132.245.70 at 12:28, 27 November 2025

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82.132.245.70 at 11:41, 27 November 2025

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42.book.addict at 04:34, 27 November 2025

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172.68.87.201: Added refutation to flat earth

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Added refutation to flat earth

141.101.98.13 at 11:48, 12 December 2023

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172.71.242.119 at 11:43, 12 December 2023

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108.162.241.217: the image is outdated

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162.158.34.70 at 18:57, 11 March 2023

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172.70.175.146 at 17:30, 11 March 2023

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Nitpicking: Responding to unsigned comment

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 :NVM. I had another few glances and twigged that "line" was neither of the em-dashes nor the word "line" in the continuation text, but the speech-line. Good catch, of something I had always implicitly seen as there (probably why it escaped initial publication, easy to hallucinate into existence). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.13|141.101.98.13]] 11:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 ::Huh. I've uploaded a version after seeing that [[User:Not without text]]'s version didn't fix the issue. I don't get why the preview shows the correct version yet it doesn't show up. Maybe we just have to give it some time? '''[[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#3a795e">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#ce5f15">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 04:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
-:::There may be a bit of cache-delay, involved. From what I saw of the image-history thumbnails, it was ok. And a long belated update, which really needs "Comic changed" category/etc, now that the upload has been done. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.245.70|82.132.245.70]] 11:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
+:::There may be a bit of cache-delay, involved. From what I saw of the image-history thumbnails, it was ok. And a long belated update, which really needs "Comic changed" category/etc, now that the reupload has been done. ((ETA: And I've just done the Category and Trivia treatment of this. So, further refinements excepted, that's also done now.)) [[Special:Contributions/82.132.245.70|82.132.245.70]] 11:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:NVM. I had another few glances and twigged that "line" was neither of the em-dashes nor the word "line" in the continuation text, but the speech-line. Good catch, of something I had always implicitly seen as there (probably why it escaped initial publication, easy to hallucinate into existence). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.13\|141.101.98.13]] 11:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)		:NVM. I had another few glances and twigged that "line" was neither of the em-dashes nor the word "line" in the continuation text, but the speech-line. Good catch, of something I had always implicitly seen as there (probably why it escaped initial publication, easy to hallucinate into existence). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.13\|141.101.98.13]] 11:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
	::Huh. I've uploaded a version after seeing that [[User:Not without text]]'s version didn't fix the issue. I don't get why the preview shows the correct version yet it doesn't show up. Maybe we just have to give it some time? '''[[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#3a795e">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#ce5f15">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 04:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)		::Huh. I've uploaded a version after seeing that [[User:Not without text]]'s version didn't fix the issue. I don't get why the preview shows the correct version yet it doesn't show up. Maybe we just have to give it some time? '''[[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#3a795e">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#ce5f15">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 04:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
		+	:::There may be a bit of cache-delay, involved. From what I saw of the image-history thumbnails, it was ok. And a long belated update, which really needs "Comic changed" category/etc, now that the upload has been done. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.245.70\|82.132.245.70]] 11:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:<s>Please explain that further. Everything you mention seems to be the same in comic, page image and page transcript already. Having taken several glances at each, before deciding that I probably wasn't missing something. Yet I clearly must be. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.119\|172.71.242.119]] 11:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</s>		:<s>Please explain that further. Everything you mention seems to be the same in comic, page image and page transcript already. Having taken several glances at each, before deciding that I probably wasn't missing something. Yet I clearly must be. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.119\|172.71.242.119]] 11:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</s>
	:NVM. I had another few glances and twigged that "line" was neither of the em-dashes nor the word "line" in the continuation text, but the speech-line. Good catch, of something I had always implicitly seen as there (probably why it escaped initial publication, easy to hallucinate into existence). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.13\|141.101.98.13]] 11:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)		:NVM. I had another few glances and twigged that "line" was neither of the em-dashes nor the word "line" in the continuation text, but the speech-line. Good catch, of something I had always implicitly seen as there (probably why it escaped initial publication, easy to hallucinate into existence). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.13\|141.101.98.13]] 11:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
		+	::Huh. I've uploaded a version after seeing that [[User:Not without text]]'s version didn't fix the issue. I don't get why the preview shows the correct version yet it doesn't show up. Maybe we just have to give it some time? '''[[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:9pt;color:#3a795e">42.book.addict</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font-family:Cormorant Garamond;font-size:6pt;color:#ce5f15">Talk to me!</span>]]</sup>''' 04:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

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 Looking at the moon and at the earth's shadow during a lunar eclipse would probably make many realize the earth is round.  [[User:Ghaller825|Ghaller825]] ([[User talk:Ghaller825|talk]]) 12:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 :Unless "round" as in "circular", rather than "spherical".  A disc-like Earth could give the same effect.  A ''non-tidally-locked moon'' would have been an interesting thing for early understanding of the universe, as it would have shown a clearly spherical ball rotating and let the layperson imagine sphericality under their own feet a lot easier in their own childhood, thus flat-earthing would have been culturally invalid, not just lazy/unthinking.  Whether or not farmers 'knew'/cared/were-told-by-the-church that the world was flat isn't really relevent on the scale of farming where you need to worry more about localised hills on your land than global curvature on its actual order of magnitude.  Of course, in the absence of any other clues you tend to think of everything as flat as your (crudely worked) kitchen tabletop by default. [[Special:Contributions/178.104.103.140|178.104.103.140]] 16:16, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 I am not sure what people knew and what they believed in earlier times. For example: {{w|M-Theory}} says that the space we live in has 11 dimensions. Assuming this is correct, what will people in 500 years say about us? Did we know it or did we not? Could we have expected what will hit us in a couple of years from out of one of the dimensions that we do not visually perceive?

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	I don't know how this was unnoticed for so long, but the image on xkcd was updated to show White Hat saying the "So he took his ships and sailed west", with a line. This doesn't change the comic too much, so the explanation doesn't need to be updated, but the image and transcription definitely should. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.217\|108.162.241.217]] 02:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)		I don't know how this was unnoticed for so long, but the image on xkcd was updated to show White Hat saying the "So he took his ships and sailed west", with a line. This doesn't change the comic too much, so the explanation doesn't need to be updated, but the image and transcription definitely should. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.217\|108.162.241.217]] 02:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
−	:Please explain that further. Everything you mention seems to be the same in comic, page image and page transcript already. Having taken several glances at each, before deciding that I probably wasn't missing something. Yet I clearly must be. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.119\|172.71.242.119]] 11:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)	+	:<s>Please explain that further. Everything you mention seems to be the same in comic, page image and page transcript already. Having taken several glances at each, before deciding that I probably wasn't missing something. Yet I clearly must be. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.119\|172.71.242.119]] 11:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</s>
		+	:NVM. I had another few glances and twigged that "line" was neither of the em-dashes nor the word "line" in the continuation text, but the speech-line. Good catch, of something I had always implicitly seen as there (probably why it escaped initial publication, easy to hallucinate into existence). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.13\|141.101.98.13]] 11:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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	I don't know how this was unnoticed for so long, but the image on xkcd was updated to show White Hat saying the "So he took his ships and sailed west", with a line. This doesn't change the comic too much, so the explanation doesn't need to be updated, but the image and transcription definitely should. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.217\|108.162.241.217]] 02:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)		I don't know how this was unnoticed for so long, but the image on xkcd was updated to show White Hat saying the "So he took his ships and sailed west", with a line. This doesn't change the comic too much, so the explanation doesn't need to be updated, but the image and transcription definitely should. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.217\|108.162.241.217]] 02:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Please explain that further. Everything you mention seems to be the same in comic, page image and page transcript already. Having taken several glances at each, before deciding that I probably wasn't missing something. Yet I clearly must be. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.119\|172.71.242.119]] 11:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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	:: It's also the southern hemisphere North Star. It's just always below the horizon (as is the celestial north pole) so it isn't really all that useful. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146\|172.70.175.146]] 17:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)		:: It's also the southern hemisphere North Star. It's just always below the horizon (as is the celestial north pole) so it isn't really all that useful. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146\|172.70.175.146]] 17:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
	::: If you can't see Polaris, but want to go north, pick a random direction and keep going until you ''can'' see Polaris. It'll still work Worst case scenario is that you'll pass through Amundsen–Scott base, on the way, but then you're ''definitely'' going north... ;) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.70\|162.158.34.70]] 18:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)		::: If you can't see Polaris, but want to go north, pick a random direction and keep going until you ''can'' see Polaris. It'll still work Worst case scenario is that you'll pass through Amundsen–Scott base, on the way, but then you're ''definitely'' going north... ;) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.70\|162.158.34.70]] 18:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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		+	I don't know how this was unnoticed for so long, but the image on xkcd was updated to show White Hat saying the "So he took his ships and sailed west", with a line. This doesn't change the comic too much, so the explanation doesn't need to be updated, but the image and transcription definitely should. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.217\|108.162.241.217]] 02:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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	:You were incorrect. Polaris is the (Northern Hemisphere) North Star, not the morning star. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 November 2021 (UTC)		:You were incorrect. Polaris is the (Northern Hemisphere) North Star, not the morning star. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
	:: It's also the southern hemisphere North Star. It's just always below the horizon (as is the celestial north pole) so it isn't really all that useful. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146\|172.70.175.146]] 17:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)		:: It's also the southern hemisphere North Star. It's just always below the horizon (as is the celestial north pole) so it isn't really all that useful. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146\|172.70.175.146]] 17:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	::: If you can't see Polaris, but want to go north, pick a random direction and keep going until you ''can'' see Polaris. It'll still work Worst case scenario is that you'll pass through Amundsen–Scott base, on the way, but then you're ''definitely'' going north... ;) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.70\|162.158.34.70]] 18:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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	I thought the morning star was Polaris. How did it become the planet Venus?		I thought the morning star was Polaris. How did it become the planet Venus?
	:You were incorrect. Polaris is the (Northern Hemisphere) North Star, not the morning star. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 November 2021 (UTC)		:You were incorrect. Polaris is the (Northern Hemisphere) North Star, not the morning star. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
		+	:: It's also the southern hemisphere North Star. It's just always below the horizon (as is the celestial north pole) so it isn't really all that useful. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.146\|172.70.175.146]] 17:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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	I thought the morning star was Polaris. How did it become the planet Venus?		I thought the morning star was Polaris. How did it become the planet Venus?
		+	:You were incorrect. Polaris is the (Northern Hemisphere) North Star, not the morning star. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 November 2021 (UTC)