Talk:1280: Mystery News - Revision history

Kazvorpal at 16:00, 16 December 2016

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Kazvorpal at 15:59, 16 December 2016

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YourLifeisaLie at 13:55, 30 April 2015

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Kynde at 12:14, 20 April 2015

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37.235.50.18 at 20:19, 27 October 2013

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31.111.43.68 at 01:48, 22 October 2013

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Grahame at 00:55, 22 October 2013

2013-10-22T00:55:52Z

Interiot: Chrome and Firefox trying to provide a solution

2013-10-21T18:45:31Z

Chrome and Firefox trying to provide a solution

67.51.59.66 at 17:30, 21 October 2013

2013-10-21T17:30:36Z

67.51.59.66 at 17:29, 21 October 2013

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	I tried to fix this comic, maybe it isn't incomplete now? [[User:YourLifeisaLie\|Yourlifeisalie]] ([[User talk:YourLifeisaLie\|talk]]) 13:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)		I tried to fix this comic, maybe it isn't incomplete now? [[User:YourLifeisaLie\|Yourlifeisalie]] ([[User talk:YourLifeisaLie\|talk]]) 13:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

−	There are browser extensions like MuteTab that will tell you exactly which tab is playing the audio, and let you mute it from its interface. That's what I use, because I keep scores of tabs open to remind me of things I want to do or learn. — [[User:Kazvorpal\|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal\|talk]]) 15:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)	+	There are browser extensions like [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mutetab/acofndgbcimipbpeoplfjcapdbebbmca MuteTab] (the one I use) that will tell you exactly which tab is playing the audio, and let you mute it from its interface. That's what I use, because I keep scores of tabs open to remind me of things I want to do or learn. — [[User:Kazvorpal\|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal\|talk]]) 15:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

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	I tried to fix this comic, maybe it isn't incomplete now? [[User:YourLifeisaLie\|Yourlifeisalie]] ([[User talk:YourLifeisaLie\|talk]]) 13:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)		I tried to fix this comic, maybe it isn't incomplete now? [[User:YourLifeisaLie\|Yourlifeisalie]] ([[User talk:YourLifeisaLie\|talk]]) 13:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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		+	There are browser extensions like MuteTab that will tell you exactly which tab is playing the audio, and let you mute it from its interface. That's what I use, because I keep scores of tabs open to remind me of things I want to do or learn. — [[User:Kazvorpal\|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal\|talk]]) 15:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

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	Why would Randall let this comic out on a Sunday. The first entry in the explain history is from the Monday after - the 21th of October. Anyone who can find out if this is the correct date, or just a mistake from when the page was created? --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		Why would Randall let this comic out on a Sunday. The first entry in the explain history is from the Monday after - the 21th of October. Anyone who can find out if this is the correct date, or just a mistake from when the page was created? --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
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		+	I tried to fix this comic, maybe it isn't incomplete now? [[User:YourLifeisaLie\|Yourlifeisalie]] ([[User talk:YourLifeisaLie\|talk]]) 13:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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	A notable offender of this kind of auto-playing video is the International Business Times in their Finance section: http://www.ibtimes.com/markets-finance - their "IBTIMES TV" player just starts playing out of nowhere, and it is not blocked by AdBlock. [[Special:Contributions/37.235.50.18\|37.235.50.18]] 20:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC)		A notable offender of this kind of auto-playing video is the International Business Times in their Finance section: http://www.ibtimes.com/markets-finance - their "IBTIMES TV" player just starts playing out of nowhere, and it is not blocked by AdBlock. [[Special:Contributions/37.235.50.18\|37.235.50.18]] 20:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
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		+	Why would Randall let this comic out on a Sunday. The first entry in the explain history is from the Monday after - the 21th of October. Anyone who can find out if this is the correct date, or just a mistake from when the page was created? --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

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	I suspect that it's something built into the object, equivalent to an "refresh page" timer in the HTTP. (Or an ''actual'' <meta http-equiv=”refresh” ...> tag, coupled with the desscribed autoplay-on-load behaviour that thus gets called anew.) However, it could be a javascript or even a server-pushing functionality. I particularly loath some news sites that already do all kinds of wierd cross-domain loading by such means, and know there's a multitude of ways people can do such things, whether wanted by the browsing person or not. (Also, to give my own experience, I tend to browse with the sound off, unless/until I want to get the full experience of something like Youtube, so wouldn't even hear a sneaky video playing in a sidelined tab or other browser window.) [[Special:Contributions/31.111.43.68\|31.111.43.68]] 01:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)		I suspect that it's something built into the object, equivalent to an "refresh page" timer in the HTTP. (Or an ''actual'' <meta http-equiv=”refresh” ...> tag, coupled with the desscribed autoplay-on-load behaviour that thus gets called anew.) However, it could be a javascript or even a server-pushing functionality. I particularly loath some news sites that already do all kinds of wierd cross-domain loading by such means, and know there's a multitude of ways people can do such things, whether wanted by the browsing person or not. (Also, to give my own experience, I tend to browse with the sound off, unless/until I want to get the full experience of something like Youtube, so wouldn't even hear a sneaky video playing in a sidelined tab or other browser window.) [[Special:Contributions/31.111.43.68\|31.111.43.68]] 01:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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		+	A notable offender of this kind of auto-playing video is the International Business Times in their Finance section: http://www.ibtimes.com/markets-finance - their "IBTIMES TV" player just starts playing out of nowhere, and it is not blocked by AdBlock. [[Special:Contributions/37.235.50.18\|37.235.50.18]] 20:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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	It appears that no-one has explained how something will start playing again 30 minutes after it was stopped. Or did I miss something? [[User:Grahame\|Grahame]] ([[User talk:Grahame\|talk]]) 00:55, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Grahame		It appears that no-one has explained how something will start playing again 30 minutes after it was stopped. Or did I miss something? [[User:Grahame\|Grahame]] ([[User talk:Grahame\|talk]]) 00:55, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Grahame
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		+	I suspect that it's something built into the object, equivalent to an "refresh page" timer in the HTTP. (Or an ''actual'' <meta http-equiv=”refresh” ...> tag, coupled with the desscribed autoplay-on-load behaviour that thus gets called anew.) However, it could be a javascript or even a server-pushing functionality. I particularly loath some news sites that already do all kinds of wierd cross-domain loading by such means, and know there's a multitude of ways people can do such things, whether wanted by the browsing person or not. (Also, to give my own experience, I tend to browse with the sound off, unless/until I want to get the full experience of something like Youtube, so wouldn't even hear a sneaky video playing in a sidelined tab or other browser window.) [[Special:Contributions/31.111.43.68\|31.111.43.68]] 01:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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	: Very frustrating and often leads me to just turn down the sound and ignore the thing that's clamoring for my attention. Gets the advertiser exactly the opposite reaction from me than what they want. Very counter-productive for the advertiser. [[Special:Contributions/67.51.59.66\|67.51.59.66]] 17:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)		: Very frustrating and often leads me to just turn down the sound and ignore the thing that's clamoring for my attention. Gets the advertiser exactly the opposite reaction from me than what they want. Very counter-productive for the advertiser. [[Special:Contributions/67.51.59.66\|67.51.59.66]] 17:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
	Chrome [http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/02/25/google-chrome-may-soon-get-audio-indicators-to-show-you-noisy-tabs-keep-them-open-when-memory-runs-out/ shows a visual indicator of which tab is playing audio], and Firefox is [http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/02/25/google-chrome-may-soon-get-audio-indicators-to-show-you-noisy-tabs-keep-them-open-when-memory-runs-out/ considering adding the feature]. The problem is that plugins do their own audio-playing, and don't let the browser know when they're playing audio. So, for now, this only works for audio that the browser itself plays (which includes Youtube HTML5). --[[User:Interiot\|Interiot]] ([[User talk:Interiot\|talk]]) 18:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)		Chrome [http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/02/25/google-chrome-may-soon-get-audio-indicators-to-show-you-noisy-tabs-keep-them-open-when-memory-runs-out/ shows a visual indicator of which tab is playing audio], and Firefox is [http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/02/25/google-chrome-may-soon-get-audio-indicators-to-show-you-noisy-tabs-keep-them-open-when-memory-runs-out/ considering adding the feature]. The problem is that plugins do their own audio-playing, and don't let the browser know when they're playing audio. So, for now, this only works for audio that the browser itself plays (which includes Youtube HTML5). --[[User:Interiot\|Interiot]] ([[User talk:Interiot\|talk]]) 18:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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		+	It appears that no-one has explained how something will start playing again 30 minutes after it was stopped. Or did I miss something? [[User:Grahame\|Grahame]] ([[User talk:Grahame\|talk]]) 00:55, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Grahame

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	: Yes, exactly. I often read a story which contains links to several others I'd like to read. So I open them in background tabs to get to after I finish the first story. And a few moments later some video on a tab (or several tabs) which I'm not looking at will start to play. Often it is difficult to find the tab(s) on which the video(s) is playing since, as noted above, the video is non-obvious. More often than not I find (if I can find it at all) that it's coming from some small ad running in a border area.		: Yes, exactly. I often read a story which contains links to several others I'd like to read. So I open them in background tabs to get to after I finish the first story. And a few moments later some video on a tab (or several tabs) which I'm not looking at will start to play. Often it is difficult to find the tab(s) on which the video(s) is playing since, as noted above, the video is non-obvious. More often than not I find (if I can find it at all) that it's coming from some small ad running in a border area.
	: Very frustrating and often leads me to just turn down the sound and ignore the thing that's clamoring for my attention. Gets the advertiser exactly the opposite reaction from me than what they want. Very counter-productive for the advertiser. [[Special:Contributions/67.51.59.66\|67.51.59.66]] 17:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)		: Very frustrating and often leads me to just turn down the sound and ignore the thing that's clamoring for my attention. Gets the advertiser exactly the opposite reaction from me than what they want. Very counter-productive for the advertiser. [[Special:Contributions/67.51.59.66\|67.51.59.66]] 17:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
		+	Chrome [http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/02/25/google-chrome-may-soon-get-audio-indicators-to-show-you-noisy-tabs-keep-them-open-when-memory-runs-out/ shows a visual indicator of which tab is playing audio], and Firefox is [http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/02/25/google-chrome-may-soon-get-audio-indicators-to-show-you-noisy-tabs-keep-them-open-when-memory-runs-out/ considering adding the feature]. The problem is that plugins do their own audio-playing, and don't let the browser know when they're playing audio. So, for now, this only works for audio that the browser itself plays (which includes Youtube HTML5). --[[User:Interiot\|Interiot]] ([[User talk:Interiot\|talk]]) 18:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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 This exact situation happens to me quite often. Here's the scenario: I scan the Google News homepage for today's news, and click the middle mouse button on the 5-10 stories that interest me, thus opening them up directly into background tabs, intending to read them one-by-one afterwards. If any of these articles have videos that autoplay, I start hearing random news reports without knowing which tab(s) the video is playing in, and have to frantically search through them to pause it. I'm pretty sure this is what Randall is referring to. [[Special:Contributions/216.174.143.92|216.174.143.92]] 14:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
-: Yes, exactly.  I often read a story which contains links to several others I'd like to read.  So I open them in background tabs to get to after I finish the first story.  And a few moments later some video on a tab (or several tabs) which I'm not looking at will start to play.  Often it is difficult to find the tab(s) on which the video(s) is playing since, as noted above, the video is non-obvious.  More often than not I find (if I can find it at all) it's coming from some small add running in a border area.
+: Yes, exactly.  I often read a story which contains links to several others I'd like to read.  So I open them in background tabs to get to after I finish the first story.  And a few moments later some video on a tab (or several tabs) which I'm not looking at will start to play.  Often it is difficult to find the tab(s) on which the video(s) is playing since, as noted above, the video is non-obvious.  More often than not I find (if I can find it at all) that it's coming from some small ad running in a border area.
 : Very frustrating and often leads me to just turn down the sound and ignore the thing that's clamoring for my attention.  Gets the advertiser exactly the opposite reaction from me than what they want.  Very counter-productive for the advertiser. [[Special:Contributions/67.51.59.66|67.51.59.66]] 17:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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	This exact situation happens to me quite often. Here's the scenario: I scan the Google News homepage for today's news, and click the middle mouse button on the 5-10 stories that interest me, thus opening them up directly into background tabs, intending to read them one-by-one afterwards. If any of these articles have videos that autoplay, I start hearing random news reports without knowing which tab(s) the video is playing in, and have to frantically search through them to pause it. I'm pretty sure this is what Randall is referring to. [[Special:Contributions/216.174.143.92\|216.174.143.92]] 14:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)		This exact situation happens to me quite often. Here's the scenario: I scan the Google News homepage for today's news, and click the middle mouse button on the 5-10 stories that interest me, thus opening them up directly into background tabs, intending to read them one-by-one afterwards. If any of these articles have videos that autoplay, I start hearing random news reports without knowing which tab(s) the video is playing in, and have to frantically search through them to pause it. I'm pretty sure this is what Randall is referring to. [[Special:Contributions/216.174.143.92\|216.174.143.92]] 14:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
		+	: Yes, exactly. I often read a story which contains links to several others I'd like to read. So I open them in background tabs to get to after I finish the first story. And a few moments later some video on a tab (or several tabs) which I'm not looking at will start to play. Often it is difficult to find the tab(s) on which the video(s) is playing since, as noted above, the video is non-obvious. More often than not I find (if I can find it at all) it's coming from some small add running in a border area.
		+	: Very frustrating and often leads me to just turn down the sound and ignore the thing that's clamoring for my attention. Gets the advertiser exactly the opposite reaction from me than what they want. Very counter-productive for the advertiser. [[Special:Contributions/67.51.59.66\|67.51.59.66]] 17:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)