Talk:1323: Protocol - Revision history

42.book.addict at 04:03, 6 November 2025

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2.50.0.22 at 03:12, 6 November 2025

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172.69.224.169 at 12:24, 8 May 2025

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162.158.162.103 at 06:37, 8 May 2025

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172.70.90.198: unsigned user (+ temporally misplaced)

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unsigned user (+ temporally misplaced)

DollarStoreBa'al at 20:58, 18 December 2024

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108.162.219.125: I added a bit of text regarding the possible extra joke in the comic title.

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I added a bit of text regarding the possible extra joke in the comic title.

Edheldil at 10:31, 31 January 2014

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Edheldil at 10:22, 31 January 2014

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Kaa-ching at 09:33, 30 January 2014

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	Welp, i've got to the point where im so much of un undertale yellow fan that the ost just played while i was reading this. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.162.103\|06:37, 8 May 2025\|You don't particularly care for capital letters, I notice...}}		Welp, i've got to the point where im so much of un undertale yellow fan that the ost just played while i was reading this. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.162.103\|06:37, 8 May 2025\|You don't particularly care for capital letters, I notice...}}
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	Welp, i've got to the point where im so much of un undertale yellow fan that the ost just played while i was reading this. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.162.103\|06:37, 8 May 2025\|You don't particularly care for capital letters, I notice...}}		Welp, i've got to the point where im so much of un undertale yellow fan that the ost just played while i was reading this. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.162.103\|06:37, 8 May 2025\|You don't particularly care for capital letters, I notice...}}
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	Sometimes I like thinking about archaeologists in the far future, digging through the ruins of the second dark age, and finding one of these. They may have no idea what it says, or what it's about. But if they have any sense of humor, their laughs will cause the world to crack and cumble. Cities will collapse as the vibrations echo through the planet which we so conveniently hollowed out. The world will collapse in on itself. Whoever is on the moon or wherever will look on in horror as the planet itself seems to crumble like that of a supernova. XKCD will be the death of us all. {{unsigned\|DollarStoreBa'al\|20:58, 18 December 2024}}		Sometimes I like thinking about archaeologists in the far future, digging through the ruins of the second dark age, and finding one of these. They may have no idea what it says, or what it's about. But if they have any sense of humor, their laughs will cause the world to crack and cumble. Cities will collapse as the vibrations echo through the planet which we so conveniently hollowed out. The world will collapse in on itself. Whoever is on the moon or wherever will look on in horror as the planet itself seems to crumble like that of a supernova. XKCD will be the death of us all. {{unsigned\|DollarStoreBa'al\|20:58, 18 December 2024}}

−	Welp, i've got to the point where im so much of un undertale yellow fan that the ost just played while i was reading this.	+	Welp, i've got to the point where im so much of un undertale yellow fan that the ost just played while i was reading this. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.162.103\|06:37, 8 May 2025\|You don't particularly care for capital letters, I notice...}}

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	Sometimes I like thinking about archaeologists in the far future, digging through the ruins of the second dark age, and finding one of these. They may have no idea what it says, or what it's about. But if they have any sense of humor, their laughs will cause the world to crack and cumble. Cities will collapse as the vibrations echo through the planet which we so conveniently hollowed out. The world will collapse in on itself. Whoever is on the moon or wherever will look on in horror as the planet itself seems to crumble like that of a supernova. XKCD will be the death of us all. {{unsigned\|DollarStoreBa'al\|20:58, 18 December 2024}}		Sometimes I like thinking about archaeologists in the far future, digging through the ruins of the second dark age, and finding one of these. They may have no idea what it says, or what it's about. But if they have any sense of humor, their laughs will cause the world to crack and cumble. Cities will collapse as the vibrations echo through the planet which we so conveniently hollowed out. The world will collapse in on itself. Whoever is on the moon or wherever will look on in horror as the planet itself seems to crumble like that of a supernova. XKCD will be the death of us all. {{unsigned\|DollarStoreBa'al\|20:58, 18 December 2024}}
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 The description misses a key aspect of the comic.  The conversation follows the pattern of a message being sent from Cueball to the Computer Scientist, with the CS sending an acknowledgement back and Cueball continuing --- much in the matter of an internet communication protocol, as referenced in the title. [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 17:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 I added a bit of text regarding the possible extra joke in the comic title. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.125|108.162.219.125]] 03:01, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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 :Found it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier Bruce Schneier], a notable modern Cryptographer has published a number of cryptography books in which he routinely references characters such as Alice, Bob, and Eve. [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]])
 :Also: TCP/IP doesn't necessarily ack every packet, it can also ack multiple packets in one go. This allows for a much larger throughput as the latency per packet goes down to zero. [[User:Kaa-ching|Kaa-ching]] ([[User talk:Kaa-ching|talk]]) 09:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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 The description misses a key aspect of the comic.  The conversation follows the pattern of a message being sent from Cueball to the Computer Scientist, with the CS sending an acknowledgement back and Cueball continuing --- much in the matter of an internet communication protocol, as referenced in the title. [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 17:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
-:I added a bit of text regarding the possible extra joke in the comic title. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.125|108.162.219.125]] 03:01, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
+Sometimes I like thinking about archaeologists in the far future, digging through the ruins of the second dark age, and finding one of these. They may have no idea what it says, or what it's about. But if they have any sense of humor, their laughs will cause the world to crack and cumble. Cities will collapse as the vibrations echo through the planet which we so conveniently hollowed out. The world will collapse in on itself. Whoever is on the moon or wherever will look on in horror as the planet itself seems to crumble like that of a supernova. XKCD will be the death of us all.
 Really excellent explanation. Complete, concise and well written, with some helpful notes in the comments.  Keep up the good work!  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58|108.162.219.58]] 18:43, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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	The description misses a key aspect of the comic. The conversation follows the pattern of a message being sent from Cueball to the Computer Scientist, with the CS sending an acknowledgement back and Cueball continuing --- much in the matter of an internet communication protocol, as referenced in the title. [[User:JamesCurran\|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran\|talk]]) 17:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)		The description misses a key aspect of the comic. The conversation follows the pattern of a message being sent from Cueball to the Computer Scientist, with the CS sending an acknowledgement back and Cueball continuing --- much in the matter of an internet communication protocol, as referenced in the title. [[User:JamesCurran\|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran\|talk]]) 17:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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	Really excellent explanation. Complete, concise and well written, with some helpful notes in the comments. Keep up the good work! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58\|108.162.219.58]] 18:43, 29 January 2014 (UTC)		Really excellent explanation. Complete, concise and well written, with some helpful notes in the comments. Keep up the good work! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58\|108.162.219.58]] 18:43, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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 I agree this would explain the protocol title, but how does it compute with the message at the bottom: ''I've discovered a way to get computer scientists to listen to any boring story''? [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 :The point is that Cueball tells a completely mundane and booooring! story (might be last evening's soap opera, for example), but by replacing the protagonist names with Alice, Bob and Eve, names commonly used in explanation of public key cryptography, he tricked the Computer Scientist into believing he describes some cryptography protocol, thus making him interested. [[User:Edheldil|Edheldil]] ([[User talk:Edheldil|talk]]) 10:22, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
+::By the way, what Cueball describes might very well be DNS cache poisoning -- or what NSA's supposed FOXACID servers do. [[User:Edheldil|Edheldil]] ([[User talk:Edheldil|talk]]) 10:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 I believe the essence of this story is in the encryption aspect, not the TCP. Many protocols feature a message-and-reply type of structure, it's not unique to TCP. The alternative to having CS reply to each phrase is to have him not reply to each phrase, which would be boring and not really indicate what's going on in CS's head. As some cryptography problems can be complex they are sometimes stated in "chunks" so people can follow along [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dining_cryptographers_problem  more easily] (See the Description section of the link). In trying to follow what might be a complex problem sometimes people will acknowledge that they understand each part in turn - weather for their own benefit or that of the problem stater. [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 21:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 :Found it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier Bruce Schneier], a notable modern Cryptographer has published a number of cryptography books in which he routinely references characters such as Alice, Bob, and Eve. [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]])
 :Also: TCP/IP doesn't necessarily ack every packet, it can also ack multiple packets in one go. This allows for a much larger throughput as the latency per packet goes down to zero. [[User:Kaa-ching|Kaa-ching]] ([[User talk:Kaa-ching|talk]]) 09:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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	I believe the essence of this story is in the encryption aspect, not the TCP. Many protocols feature a message-and-reply type of structure, it's not unique to TCP. The alternative to having CS reply to each phrase is to have him not reply to each phrase, which would be boring and not really indicate what's going on in CS's head. As some cryptography problems can be complex they are sometimes stated in "chunks" so people can follow along [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dining_cryptographers_problem more easily] (See the Description section of the link). In trying to follow what might be a complex problem sometimes people will acknowledge that they understand each part in turn - weather for their own benefit or that of the problem stater. [[User:Jarod997\|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997\|talk]]) 21:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)		I believe the essence of this story is in the encryption aspect, not the TCP. Many protocols feature a message-and-reply type of structure, it's not unique to TCP. The alternative to having CS reply to each phrase is to have him not reply to each phrase, which would be boring and not really indicate what's going on in CS's head. As some cryptography problems can be complex they are sometimes stated in "chunks" so people can follow along [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dining_cryptographers_problem more easily] (See the Description section of the link). In trying to follow what might be a complex problem sometimes people will acknowledge that they understand each part in turn - weather for their own benefit or that of the problem stater. [[User:Jarod997\|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997\|talk]]) 21:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
	:Found it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier Bruce Schneier], a notable modern Cryptographer has published a number of cryptography books in which he routinely references characters such as Alice, Bob, and Eve. [[User:Jarod997\|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997\|talk]])		:Found it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier Bruce Schneier], a notable modern Cryptographer has published a number of cryptography books in which he routinely references characters such as Alice, Bob, and Eve. [[User:Jarod997\|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997\|talk]])
		+	:Also: TCP/IP doesn't necessarily ack every packet, it can also ack multiple packets in one go. This allows for a much larger throughput as the latency per packet goes down to zero. [[User:Kaa-ching\|Kaa-ching]] ([[User talk:Kaa-ching\|talk]]) 09:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)