Talk:133: The Raven - Revision history

42.book.addict at 17:41, 20 March 2026

2026-03-20T17:41:58Z

42.book.addict at 16:50, 19 September 2025

2025-09-19T16:50:48Z

172.70.163.166 at 15:07, 13 March 2025

2025-03-13T15:07:11Z

162.158.103.26 at 12:27, 13 March 2025

2025-03-13T12:27:14Z

Yfmcpxpj: Misquoted line from poem.

2019-12-03T10:44:59Z

Misquoted line from poem.

Koro Neil at 21:17, 27 December 2018

2018-12-27T21:17:39Z

108.162.218.118 at 05:17, 12 May 2016

2016-05-12T05:17:27Z

108.162.237.175: Further comment on "of" vs "if".

2015-03-18T19:17:02Z

Further comment on "of" vs "if".

141.101.104.25 at 22:33, 21 February 2015

2015-02-21T22:33:13Z

IronyChef: Followup to fixup in main text.

2012-08-14T14:26:23Z

Followup to fixup in main text.

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 Date is definitely incorrect. Could someone fix that? [[User:Rikthoff|Rikthoff]] ([[User talk:Rikthoff|talk]]) 19:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
-I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape".  "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door.  Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it.  It has nothing to do with rape. {{unsigned ip|68.144.4.120|12:42, 14 August 2012}}
+I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape".  "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door.  Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it.  It has nothing to do with rape. {{unsigned ip|68.144.4.120|12:42, 14 August 2012(UTC)}}
 :Agreed, and fixed. The original posting made the incorrect association of ''rapping'' (to knock or strike) with ''rape'' (originally to sieze or carry away, in addition to its more contemporary meaning) which was incorrectly described as "too force open"... but that's the nature of wikis: we all can post, and we all can correct. Thanks for pointing it out. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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-[[User:Rikthoff|Rikthoff]] ([[User talk:Rikthoff|talk]]) Date is definitely incorrect. Could someone fix that?
+Date is definitely incorrect. Could someone fix that? [[User:Rikthoff|Rikthoff]] ([[User talk:Rikthoff|talk]]) 19:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
-I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape".  "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door.  Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it.  It has nothing to do with rape.
+I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape".  "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door.  Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it.  It has nothing to do with rape. {{unsigned ip|68.144.4.120|12:42, 14 August 2012}}
 :Agreed, and fixed. The original posting made the incorrect association of ''rapping'' (to knock or strike) with ''rape'' (originally to sieze or carry away, in addition to its more contemporary meaning) which was incorrectly described as "too force open"... but that's the nature of wikis: we all can post, and we all can correct. Thanks for pointing it out. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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	: Added to Trivia. [[User:Yfmcpxpj\|Yfmcpxpj]] ([[User talk:Yfmcpxpj\|talk]]) 10:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)		: Added to Trivia. [[User:Yfmcpxpj\|Yfmcpxpj]] ([[User talk:Yfmcpxpj\|talk]]) 10:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
	: Can someone explain the difference? "as of" seems if not ungrammatic, then at least old grammar-like to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.103.26\|162.158.103.26]] 12:27, 13 March 2025 (UTC)		: Can someone explain the difference? "as of" seems if not ungrammatic, then at least old grammar-like to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.103.26\|162.158.103.26]] 12:27, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
		+	:: Archaic/poetic as the language may be, in ''both'' cases, I'd say there's a subtle difference of interpretation/feeling. The "<foo> as if <bar>" of the comic suggests a different kind of facsimile than the "<foo> as of <bar>". "What we experienced was reminiscent of this other thing; as if that had happened instead", vs "What we experienced may well have had its origin in the other thing; of which, it definitely seemed as if it was".
		+	:: That said, EAP's original was clearly a simile when it says the raven's tapping is "as of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door". So it really is just a minor misquote of note, a misremembered rote. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.166\|172.70.163.166]] 15:07, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

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	Should have been "as '''of''' someone gently rapping." [[User:Koro Neil\|Koro Neil]] ([[User talk:Koro Neil\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)		Should have been "as '''of''' someone gently rapping." [[User:Koro Neil\|Koro Neil]] ([[User talk:Koro Neil\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
	: Added to Trivia. [[User:Yfmcpxpj\|Yfmcpxpj]] ([[User talk:Yfmcpxpj\|talk]]) 10:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)		: Added to Trivia. [[User:Yfmcpxpj\|Yfmcpxpj]] ([[User talk:Yfmcpxpj\|talk]]) 10:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
		+	: Can someone explain the difference? "as of" seems if not ungrammatic, then at least old grammar-like to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.103.26\|162.158.103.26]] 12:27, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

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 Should it be mentioned that the actual poem says "as '''of''' someone gently rapping" rather than "as if"? -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.25|141.101.104.25]] 22:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 : I was about to say the same thing. A rare, uncorrected Randall error probably bears comment. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.175|108.162.237.175]]
 Is there any possible connection between the fact that in the original it was a raven, and now it's a white rapper, instead of a black one? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.118|108.162.218.118]] 05:17, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 Should have been "as '''of''' someone gently rapping." [[User:Koro Neil|Koro Neil]] ([[User talk:Koro Neil|talk]]) 21:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

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	Is there any possible connection between the fact that in the original it was a raven, and now it's a white rapper, instead of a black one? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.118\|108.162.218.118]] 05:17, 12 May 2016 (UTC)		Is there any possible connection between the fact that in the original it was a raven, and now it's a white rapper, instead of a black one? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.118\|108.162.218.118]] 05:17, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Should have been "as '''of''' someone gently rapping." [[User:Koro Neil\|Koro Neil]] ([[User talk:Koro Neil\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

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	Should it be mentioned that the actual poem says "as '''of''' someone gently rapping" rather than "as if"? -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.25\|141.101.104.25]] 22:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)		Should it be mentioned that the actual poem says "as '''of''' someone gently rapping" rather than "as if"? -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.25\|141.101.104.25]] 22:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
	: I was about to say the same thing. A rare, uncorrected Randall error probably bears comment. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.175\|108.162.237.175]]		: I was about to say the same thing. A rare, uncorrected Randall error probably bears comment. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.175\|108.162.237.175]]
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		+	Is there any possible connection between the fact that in the original it was a raven, and now it's a white rapper, instead of a black one? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.118\|108.162.218.118]] 05:17, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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	Should it be mentioned that the actual poem says "as '''of''' someone gently rapping" rather than "as if"? -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.25\|141.101.104.25]] 22:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)		Should it be mentioned that the actual poem says "as '''of''' someone gently rapping" rather than "as if"? -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.25\|141.101.104.25]] 22:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
		+	: I was about to say the same thing. A rare, uncorrected Randall error probably bears comment. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.175\|108.162.237.175]]

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	I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape". "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door. Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it. It has nothing to do with rape.		I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape". "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door. Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it. It has nothing to do with rape.
	:Agreed, and fixed. The original posting made the incorrect association of ''rapping'' (to knock or strike) with ''rape'' (originally to sieze or carry away, in addition to its more contemporary meaning) which was incorrectly described as "too force open"... but that's the nature of wikis: we all can post, and we all can correct. Thanks for pointing it out. -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 14:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)		:Agreed, and fixed. The original posting made the incorrect association of ''rapping'' (to knock or strike) with ''rape'' (originally to sieze or carry away, in addition to its more contemporary meaning) which was incorrectly described as "too force open"... but that's the nature of wikis: we all can post, and we all can correct. Thanks for pointing it out. -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 14:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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		+	Should it be mentioned that the actual poem says "as '''of''' someone gently rapping" rather than "as if"? -- [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.25\|141.101.104.25]] 22:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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	I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape". "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door. Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it. It has nothing to do with rape.		I must admit curiosity as to how you equated "rapping on a door" with "rape". "Rapping" as used in the poem means exactly what it says; to tap on the door. Electric doorbells didn't exist in the 1800s and people would announce their presence at your door by knocking (rapping) on it. It has nothing to do with rape.
		+	:Agreed, and fixed. The original posting made the incorrect association of ''rapping'' (to knock or strike) with ''rape'' (originally to sieze or carry away, in addition to its more contemporary meaning) which was incorrectly described as "too force open"... but that's the nature of wikis: we all can post, and we all can correct. Thanks for pointing it out. -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 14:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)