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Adding percentages by category

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Xhfz at 23:54, 30 August 2015

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Davidy22 at 14:57, 21 October 2014

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108.162.216.209: Undo revision 77568 by Davidy22 (talk)

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141.101.98.180 at 09:50, 13 October 2014

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 :Is Randall's ton the metric {{w|tonne}} or the US {{w|short ton}}? -- [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.65|108.162.219.65]] 22:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 ::Considering that Randall is very aware of the SI confusion, I'm sure he would have made it clear if he where NOT using metric tonne - so I would say his tonne is 1,000 kg! [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 ;Stab at the numbers

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 :::::No, you're all wrong.  Pound is a currency. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.188|173.245.54.188]] 15:40, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 :::Based on his comments on the subject in a [http://what-if.xkcd.com/112/ What If comic], I strongly suspect that he doesn't care about the distinction in cases where: a) the values of the measurements are equal, and b) it's just a comic, not a research paper. [[User:Marcus Erronius|Marcus Erronius]] ([[User talk:Marcus Erronius|talk]]) 17:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 I'm really curious, what are the other, unlabeled groupings?  [http://vaclavsmil.com/the-earths-biosphere-evolution-dynamics-and-change/ Author's website] {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.46}}
 :Velociraptors, I'd assume. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.180|141.101.98.180]] 09:50, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 On page 186 of Smil's referenced book, there is a bar chart with the following values in millions of tons (*=not used in Randall's graphic):
-elephants 0.8
+:elephants 0.8
-horses 40
+:horses 40
-pigs 100
+:pigs 100
-cattle 450
+:cattle 450
-people 280
+:people 280
-*whales 80
+:<nowiki>*</nowiki>whales 80
-*all wild vertebrates 30
+:<nowiki>*</nowiki>all wild vertebrates 30
-*all domesticated vertebrates 650
+:<nowiki>*</nowiki>all domesticated vertebrates 650
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+&nbsp;{{unsigned ip|108.162.215.46}}
 I think that this graph is actually more illustrative of how much support humans need to maintain themselves (the amount of cattle is astonishing). [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]<span title="I'm an admin. I can help.">_a</span> ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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 ::Ton is a unit of the quantity mass, not weight. Weight is a force and forces would be measured in newtons. Hence the comic is making a mistake. One that 99% of the people do. Mass would be correct since it is a more fundamental quantity and is usually what is meant when people talk about weight. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.105|108.162.254.105]] 18:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 :::Ton is actually a unit of weight, at least assuming the comic is using the short ton (widely used in the US). 1 ton = 2000 pounds, and pounds are a unit of weight. A metric ton, tonne, and long ton are units of mass, defined as a quantity of kilograms.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.206|108.162.219.206]] 18:32, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
-::::No, [[wikipedia:Pound_%28mass%29|pound]] is a unit of mass as well. The [[wikipedia:Pound_%28force%29|pound-force]] is a unit of force. One pound-force is the amount of force exerted by Earth's gravity (under certain conditions, I have no idea which) on a pound of mass. [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 20:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
+::::No, [[wikipedia:Pound_%28mass%29|pound]] is a unit of mass as well. The [[wikipedia:Pound_%28force%29|pound-force]] is a unit of force. One pound-force is the amount of force exerted by Earth's gravity (under certain conditions, I have no idea which) on a pound of mass.[[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 20:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 :::::No, you're all wrong.  Pound is a currency. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.188|173.245.54.188]] 15:40, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 :::Based on his comments on the subject in a [http://what-if.xkcd.com/112/ What If comic], I strongly suspect that he doesn't care about the distinction in cases where: a) the values of the measurements are equal, and b) it's just a comic, not a research paper. [[User:Marcus Erronius|Marcus Erronius]] ([[User talk:Marcus Erronius|talk]]) 17:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

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 Anyone in the US want to spend a few dollars to try and clear up these unlabelled groups? The book used by Randall in creation of this comic is [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262692988/olibro-20/ available on amazon]. --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 15:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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 Many people have taken a significant amount of time to figure out what animals are part of what group. Clearly this is not possible without a significant amount of interpretation.  I am removing this "need" so that this article can be marked completed at some point in time, preferably before the Sun burns out. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.209|108.162.216.209]] 20:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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 Anyone in the US want to spend a few dollars to try and clear up these unlabelled groups? The book used by Randall in creation of this comic is [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262692988/olibro-20/ available on amazon]. --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 15:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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+== Revised Article Requirements ==
 Many people have taken a significant amount of time to figure out what animals are part of what group. Clearly this is not possible without a significant amount of interpretation.  I am removing this "need" so that this article can be marked completed at some point in time, preferably before the Sun burns out. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.209|108.162.216.209]] 20:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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	Anyone in the US want to spend a few dollars to try and clear up these unlabelled groups? The book used by Randall in creation of this comic is [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262692988/olibro-20/ available on amazon]. --[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 15:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)		Anyone in the US want to spend a few dollars to try and clear up these unlabelled groups? The book used by Randall in creation of this comic is [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262692988/olibro-20/ available on amazon]. --[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 15:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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		+	Many people have taken a significant amount of time to figure out what animals are part of what group. Clearly this is not possible without a significant amount of interpretation. I am removing this "need" so that this article can be marked completed at some point in time, preferably before the Sun burns out. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.209\|108.162.216.209]] 20:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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	I'm really curious, what are the other, unlabeled groupings? [http://vaclavsmil.com/the-earths-biosphere-evolution-dynamics-and-change/ Author's website] {{unsigned ip\|108.162.215.46}}		I'm really curious, what are the other, unlabeled groupings? [http://vaclavsmil.com/the-earths-biosphere-evolution-dynamics-and-change/ Author's website] {{unsigned ip\|108.162.215.46}}
		+	Velociraptors, I'd assume.

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