Talk:1386: People are Stupid - Revision history

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172.70.85.138: Correcting obvious typo (excuse me!). Adding 'signature' hint. Adding a layer of indent (rather than shift its chronology, keeping it close the point it was replying to but not reversing straight-down reading-order).

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Correcting obvious typo (excuse me!). Adding 'signature' hint. Adding a layer of indent (rather than shift its chronology, keeping it close the point it was replying to but not reversing straight-down reading-order).

172.71.30.187 at 01:33, 6 September 2024

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172.71.242.222: Undo revision 319706 by R3TRI8UTI0N (...) The deleted point was clearly being mathematical (mean, as in average). And solving the non-attribution how it always should have been, so no need to rerestore disclaimer.

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Undo revision 319706 by R3TRI8UTI0N (...) The deleted point was clearly being mathematical (mean, as in average). And solving the non-attribution how it always should have been, so no need to rerestore disclaimer.

R3TRI8UTI0N at 03:41, 27 July 2023

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172.70.85.56 at 00:49, 30 March 2023

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R3TRI8UTI0N at 00:11, 30 March 2023

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-On average yes, an individual is of average intelligence. But taken as a population of a whole, well, that's a different story entirely. Randall needs a vacation, ever since he jumped the shark with the dead baby it just feels like the downward trend is getting steeper. -- what the heck man, xkcd is better then any other comic ever. yes, that includes the far side. he did not jump the shark, because there was no shark. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.135|108.162.210.135]] 13:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
+On average yes, an individual is of average intelligence. But taken as a population of a whole, well, that's a different story entirely. Randall needs a vacation, ever since he jumped the shark with the dead baby it just feels like the downward trend is getting steeper. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.135|108.162.210.135]] 13:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Kay, Men in Black 1997 {{unsigned ip|172.71.30.187|01:33, 6 September 2024}}
 :I don't really think that he jumped the shark. I don't quite get what you are trying to say, and individual can't be of average intelligence. You must first define the average, if we take the mean intelligence of the whole population, then take a person from the sample, then we say that the individual is of average intelligence. You can't say people is stupid while referring to the whole population, because of the definition of stupid, if we take a sample of low IQ people then those people are going to be of average intelligence within the sample, the same goes to the whole population. So this comic is perfectly valid. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.192|108.162.212.192]] 04:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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 : You make an intelligent point, which I both appreciate and like. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.222.50|108.162.222.50]] 13:41, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::Awww, it's just a joke, it's not personal or anything! '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:43, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 This comment is one that makes me scratch my head and wonder... surely Randall is able to see that intelligence is not a relative but rather an absolute thing (if one were to kill the 10% most intelligent people the rest wouldn't get dumber, nor smarter). Surely intelligence is not to be measured in units of the common denominator. Surely it is obvious that 2nd panel is a pure strawman. Sigh...

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-On average yes, an individual is of average intelligence. But taken as a population of a whole, well, that's a different story entirely. Randall needs a vacation, ever since he jumped the shark with the dead baby it just feels like the downward trend is getting steeper. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.135|108.162.210.135]] 13:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
+On average yes, an individual is of average intelligence. But taken as a population of a whole, well, that's a different story entirely. Randall needs a vacation, ever since he jumped the shark with the dead baby it just feels like the downward trend is getting steeper. -- what the heck man, xkcd is better then any other comic ever. yes, that includes the far side. he did not jump the shark, because there was no shark. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.135|108.162.210.135]] 13:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Kay, Men in Black 1997 {{unsigned ip|172.71.30.187|01:33, 6 September 2024}}
 :I don't really think that he jumped the shark. I don't quite get what you are trying to say, and individual can't be of average intelligence. You must first define the average, if we take the mean intelligence of the whole population, then take a person from the sample, then we say that the individual is of average intelligence. You can't say people is stupid while referring to the whole population, because of the definition of stupid, if we take a sample of low IQ people then those people are going to be of average intelligence within the sample, the same goes to the whole population. So this comic is perfectly valid. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.192|108.162.212.192]] 04:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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 : You make an intelligent point, which I both appreciate and like. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.222.50|108.162.222.50]] 13:41, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::Awww, it's just a joke, it's not personal or anything! '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 13:43, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 This comment is one that makes me scratch my head and wonder... surely Randall is able to see that intelligence is not a relative but rather an absolute thing (if one were to kill the 10% most intelligent people the rest wouldn't get dumber, nor smarter). Surely intelligence is not to be measured in units of the common denominator. Surely it is obvious that 2nd panel is a pure strawman. Sigh...

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+On average yes, an individual is of average intelligence. But taken as a population of a whole, well, that's a different story entirely. Randall needs a vacation, ever since he jumped the shark with the dead baby it just feels like the downward trend is getting steeper. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.135|108.162.210.135]] 13:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Kay, Men in Black 1997 {{unsigned ip|172.71.30.187|01:33, 6 September 2024}}
 :I don't really think that he jumped the shark. I don't quite get what you are trying to say, and individual can't be of average intelligence. You must first define the average, if we take the mean intelligence of the whole population, then take a person from the sample, then we say that the individual is of average intelligence. You can't say people is stupid while referring to the whole population, because of the definition of stupid, if we take a sample of low IQ people then those people are going to be of average intelligence within the sample, the same goes to the whole population. So this comic is perfectly valid. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.192|108.162.212.192]] 04:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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-On average yes, an individual is of average intelligence. But taken as a population of a whole, well, that's a different story entirely. Randall needs a vacation, ever since he jumped the shark with the dead baby it just feels like the downward trend is getting steeper. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.135|108.162.210.135]] 13:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Kay, Men in Black 1997 {{unsigned ip|172.71.30.187|01:33, 6 September 2024}}
 :I don't really think that he jumped the shark. I don't quite get what you are trying to say, and individual can't be of average intelligence. You must first define the average, if we take the mean intelligence of the whole population, then take a person from the sample, then we say that the individual is of average intelligence. You can't say people is stupid while referring to the whole population, because of the definition of stupid, if we take a sample of low IQ people then those people are going to be of average intelligence within the sample, the same goes to the whole population. So this comic is perfectly valid. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.192|108.162.212.192]] 04:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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 On average yes, an individual is of average intelligence. But taken as a population of a whole, well, that's a different story entirely. Randall needs a vacation, ever since he jumped the shark with the dead baby it just feels like the downward trend is getting steeper. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.135|108.162.210.135]] 13:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
-:"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Kay, Men in Black 1977
+::"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Kay, Men in Black 1997 {{unsigned ip|172.71.30.187|01:33, 6 September 2024}}
 :I don't really think that he jumped the shark. I don't quite get what you are trying to say, and individual can't be of average intelligence. You must first define the average, if we take the mean intelligence of the whole population, then take a person from the sample, then we say that the individual is of average intelligence. You can't say people is stupid while referring to the whole population, because of the definition of stupid, if we take a sample of low IQ people then those people are going to be of average intelligence within the sample, the same goes to the whole population. So this comic is perfectly valid. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.192|108.162.212.192]] 04:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::I know this is a lot later, but I believe that OP was referring to the difference between mean and median measures of intelligence. More than 50% of the population can be below average intelligence if the distribution is skewed right. [[User:NotLock|NotLock]] ([[User talk:NotLock|talk]]) 03:36, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

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 b/2b. Most people are not smart enough for X. Again possible depending on the definition, moreso as most if not all problems could be solved well enough if all or most people just cooperated better and prioritized the global good over their own.
-Therefore, the statement can be fine as long as the speaker has a good reason to say it in a particular context and/or includes himself in it. In any other case, Cueball's reaction is justified.
+Therefore, the statement can be fine as long as the speaker has a good reason to say it in a particular context and/or includes himself in it. In any other case, Cueball's reaction is justified. {{unsigned ip|172.68.65.20|16:45, 10 February 2021}}
 I have to disagree with this comic. Yes, on average, people are of average intelligence. However, if the average intelligence is "stupid", then the average person is stupid. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N|talk]]) 00:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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	Therefore, the statement can be fine as long as the speaker has a good reason to say it in a particular context and/or includes himself in it. In any other case, Cueball's reaction is justified.		Therefore, the statement can be fine as long as the speaker has a good reason to say it in a particular context and/or includes himself in it. In any other case, Cueball's reaction is justified.

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	I have to disagree with this comic. Yes, on average, people are of average intelligence. However, if the average intelligence is "stupid", then the average person is stupid. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N\|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N\|talk]]) 00:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)		I have to disagree with this comic. Yes, on average, people are of average intelligence. However, if the average intelligence is "stupid", then the average person is stupid. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N\|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N\|talk]]) 00:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
−	~~:As long as you're happy with calling half* of all people ''very'' stupid.~~
−	~~:* - Or you could be mean and assume it's an extreme outlier dragging the number down.~~
−	~~:Which begs the question how smart one needs to be to be considered smart. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.56\|172.70.85.56]] 00:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)~~

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	I have to disagree with this comic. Yes, on average, people are of average intelligence. However, if the average intelligence is "stupid", then the average person is stupid. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N\|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N\|talk]]) 00:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)		I have to disagree with this comic. Yes, on average, people are of average intelligence. However, if the average intelligence is "stupid", then the average person is stupid. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N\|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N\|talk]]) 00:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	:As long as you're happy with calling half* of all people ''very'' stupid.
		+	:* - Or you could be mean and assume it's an extreme outlier dragging the number down.
		+	:Which begs the question how smart one needs to be to be considered smart. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.56\|172.70.85.56]] 00:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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	Therefore, the statement can be fine as long as the speaker has a good reason to say it in a particular context and/or includes himself in it. In any other case, Cueball's reaction is justified.		Therefore, the statement can be fine as long as the speaker has a good reason to say it in a particular context and/or includes himself in it. In any other case, Cueball's reaction is justified.
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		+	I have to disagree with this comic. Yes, on average, people are of average intelligence. However, if the average intelligence is "stupid", then the average person is stupid. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N\|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N\|talk]]) 00:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)