Talk:1487: Tornado - Revision history

Borkedisthegaming at 13:45, 21 October 2024

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172.71.23.109 at 18:42, 2 September 2024

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Cosumel at 21:11, 10 August 2020

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Lcarsos: it's always a space not a hyphen

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it's always a space not a hyphen

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173.245.52.104 at 15:02, 2 March 2015

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199.27.128.85 at 17:26, 17 February 2015

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141.101.92.72 at 14:30, 17 February 2015

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Davidy22 at 06:49, 17 February 2015

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108.162.216.17 at 06:31, 17 February 2015

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	My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still. The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing. {{unsigned ip\|173.245.52.104}}		My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still. The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing. {{unsigned ip\|173.245.52.104}}
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		+	The first thing I thought of was mad libs because it took me a bit to piece together the gag [[User:Borkedisthegaming\|Borkedisthegaming]] ([[User talk:Borkedisthegaming\|talk]]) 13:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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 :: Centrifugal force does actually exist. See comic [[123]]. It may not be real in the sense that it exists in inertial reference frames, but it exists in the sense that it's a well-defined and useful way of arranging the math. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.17|108.162.216.17]] 06:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still.  The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing. {{unsigned ip|173.245.52.104}}

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	I think tornado can destroy the merry-go-round of either type and STILL make it a fun ride. The part of "no injuries" is the suspicious one. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 10:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)		I think tornado can destroy the merry-go-round of either type and STILL make it a fun ride. The part of "no injuries" is the suspicious one. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 10:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
		+	: No injuries? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoNW1MQictc Motorbike and merry-go-round]

	Wait, what I got from this comic is the classical mass media sensationalism joke, there is no tornado, they simply invented one by taking a merry go round as one, that's why the victims say "Fun and Awesome", they interviewed the kids as victims while they were just enjoying the ride. The title text does the same, with the difference they went further this time, as trying to pass a teacup ride as a multi-vortex tornado is even more hilarious. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.103.206\|141.101.103.206]] 11:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)		Wait, what I got from this comic is the classical mass media sensationalism joke, there is no tornado, they simply invented one by taking a merry go round as one, that's why the victims say "Fun and Awesome", they interviewed the kids as victims while they were just enjoying the ride. The title text does the same, with the difference they went further this time, as trying to pass a teacup ride as a multi-vortex tornado is even more hilarious. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.103.206\|141.101.103.206]] 11:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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	The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72\|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)		The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72\|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

−	My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still. The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing. {{unsigned-ip\|173.245.52.104}}	+	My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still. The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing. {{unsigned ip\|173.245.52.104}}

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	The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72\|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)		The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72\|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

−	My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still. The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing.	+	My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still. The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing. {{unsigned-ip\|173.245.52.104}}

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	The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72\|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)		The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72\|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
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		+	My first impression was that in the title-text (multi-vortex) case, there were no injuries because the vortices exactly counteracted the spinning of the ride, leaving the participants effectively standing still. The physics likely doesn't work at all if you dig into the details, but as an initial mental image, it was amusing.

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	Another type of "merry-go-round" is a very common playground device, much simpler than the type with seats or horses. This https://smilekiddo.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/zipline_merry-go-round.jpg is what I envisioned from the comic, although it could refer to either type. The freely-rotating small platform, usually with bars for children to hold onto while standing, and rotated merely by people-power, is probably the most common type of merry-go-round in the US. They may weigh from 500 to 2000 lbs, or mass from about 15 to 60 slugs (I'll assume xkcd readers can convert to other mass units if desired.) [[User:Taibhse\|Taibhse]] ([[User talk:Taibhse\|talk]]) 09:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)		Another type of "merry-go-round" is a very common playground device, much simpler than the type with seats or horses. This https://smilekiddo.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/zipline_merry-go-round.jpg is what I envisioned from the comic, although it could refer to either type. The freely-rotating small platform, usually with bars for children to hold onto while standing, and rotated merely by people-power, is probably the most common type of merry-go-round in the US. They may weigh from 500 to 2000 lbs, or mass from about 15 to 60 slugs (I'll assume xkcd readers can convert to other mass units if desired.) [[User:Taibhse\|Taibhse]] ([[User talk:Taibhse\|talk]]) 09:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
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		+	:: My experience has been that Americans typically refer to the type with seats and horses as a Carousel, and a merry-go-round is just the simple spinning wheel with bars to hold onto. This article says that merry-go-round in reference to a Carousel is a term more often used in Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carousel [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.85\|199.27.128.85]] 17:26, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

	I think tornado can destroy the merry-go-round of either type and STILL make it a fun ride. The part of "no injuries" is the suspicious one. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 10:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)		I think tornado can destroy the merry-go-round of either type and STILL make it a fun ride. The part of "no injuries" is the suspicious one. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 10:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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	:: Centrifugal force does actually exist. See comic [[123]]. It may not be real in the sense that it exists in inertial reference frames, but it exists in the sense that it's a well-defined and useful way of arranging the math. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.17\|108.162.216.17]] 06:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)		:: Centrifugal force does actually exist. See comic [[123]]. It may not be real in the sense that it exists in inertial reference frames, but it exists in the sense that it's a well-defined and useful way of arranging the math. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.17\|108.162.216.17]] 06:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
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		+	The most improbable fact is that the tornadoes would exactly stay centered around the axes of the merry-go-round, especially in the multi-vortex case. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.92.72\|141.101.92.72]] 14:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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 Can a weather expert verify the claim that a tornado will destroy a merry-go-round? From what little I read and understood (Weather is confusing, and there was no graph!), a F0 or F1 tornado would not destroy it. From my estimations, a merry-go-round weighs 1350kg (2976.24054 lbs). Thanks, [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.95|141.101.106.95]] 08:53, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
-:: The F scale is based on the amount of damage done, by definition an F0 does no damage and F5 Does vast amounts of damage, F1 would damage it but it may be repairable.
+:: The F scale is based on the amount of damage done, by definition an F0 does no damage and F5 Does vast amounts of damage, F1 would damage it but it may be repairable. {{unsigned ip|108.162.216.93}}
 Another type of "merry-go-round" is a very common playground device, much simpler than the type with seats or horses.  This https://smilekiddo.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/zipline_merry-go-round.jpg is what I envisioned from the comic, although it could refer to either type.  The freely-rotating small platform, usually with bars for children to hold onto while standing, and rotated merely by people-power, is probably the most common type of merry-go-round in the US.  They may weigh from 500 to 2000 lbs, or mass from about 15 to 60 slugs (I'll assume xkcd readers can convert to other mass units if desired.) [[User:Taibhse|Taibhse]] ([[User talk:Taibhse|talk]]) 09:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
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 Is there any point in including "like most amusement rides, it is for children"? I don't know about others but most of the amusement parks near me are for late teens-twenties. They all have a childrens section but it is pretty tiny. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.202|173.245.56.202]] 14:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
-I would like to point out that [http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/centrif.htm Centrifugal Force] Does not exist.  What you are describing is Tethered forward momentum.  If the rider was not bolted to the Horse then the rider would fly forward as described by the feeling of being pushed away from the center.  You can test this yourself by putting a bolt on a string, spin the string and let go.  IF there was Centrifugal force then the bolt would keep on a curve.  Instead it flies away in a line till gravity takes over.
+I would like to point out that [http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/centrif.htm Centrifugal Force] Does not exist.  What you are describing is Tethered forward momentum.  If the rider was not bolted to the Horse then the rider would fly forward as described by the feeling of being pushed away from the center.  You can test this yourself by putting a bolt on a string, spin the string and let go.  IF there was Centrifugal force then the bolt would keep on a curve.  Instead it flies away in a line till gravity takes over. {{unsigned ip|108.162.216.93}}
 :: Centrifugal force does actually exist. See comic [[123]]. It may not be real in the sense that it exists in inertial reference frames, but it exists in the sense that it's a well-defined and useful way of arranging the math. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.17|108.162.216.17]] 06:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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	I would like to point out that [http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/centrif.htm Centrifugal Force] Does not exist. What you are describing is Tethered forward momentum. If the rider was not bolted to the Horse then the rider would fly forward as described by the feeling of being pushed away from the center. You can test this yourself by putting a bolt on a string, spin the string and let go. IF there was Centrifugal force then the bolt would keep on a curve. Instead it flies away in a line till gravity takes over.		I would like to point out that [http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/centrif.htm Centrifugal Force] Does not exist. What you are describing is Tethered forward momentum. If the rider was not bolted to the Horse then the rider would fly forward as described by the feeling of being pushed away from the center. You can test this yourself by putting a bolt on a string, spin the string and let go. IF there was Centrifugal force then the bolt would keep on a curve. Instead it flies away in a line till gravity takes over.
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		+	:: Centrifugal force does actually exist. See comic [[123]]. It may not be real in the sense that it exists in inertial reference frames, but it exists in the sense that it's a well-defined and useful way of arranging the math. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.17\|108.162.216.17]] 06:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)