Talk:1514: PermaCal - Revision history

Purah126 at 13:16, 10 April 2023

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Purah126 at 13:15, 10 April 2023

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141.101.88.184: Special capital letter case

2017-04-18T11:58:31Z

Special capital letter case

108.162.238.156: added link to ComputerPhile's timezone video on Youtube

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added link to ComputerPhile's timezone video on Youtube

Azule at 18:13, 21 April 2015

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108.162.250.169 at 12:49, 21 April 2015

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Spongebog at 03:53, 21 April 2015

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108.162.249.162 at 01:32, 21 April 2015

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108.162.249.162 at 01:14, 21 April 2015

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199.27.133.73 at 17:33, 20 April 2015

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	Pun intended? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.184\|141.101.88.184]] 11:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)		Pun intended? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.184\|141.101.88.184]] 11:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

−	Why is this in ~~[[Category:Time~~ management]]? --[[User:Purah126\|Purah126]] ([[User talk:Purah126\|talk]]) 13:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)	+	Why is this in the time management category? It seems that that category is for comics about reducing wasted time, not comics about time itself. --[[User:Purah126\|Purah126]] ([[User talk:Purah126\|talk]]) 13:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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	<blockquote>Also only '''capital letters''' are used in the comics (except in special '''cases''').</blockquote>		<blockquote>Also only '''capital letters''' are used in the comics (except in special '''cases''').</blockquote>
	Pun intended? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.184\|141.101.88.184]] 11:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)		Pun intended? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.184\|141.101.88.184]] 11:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
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		+	Why is this in [[Category:Time management]]? --[[User:Purah126\|Purah126]] ([[User talk:Purah126\|talk]]) 13:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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	For a really good explanation of how incredibly complex the seemingly trivial act of keeping track of time is, see this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSzwPcL5Dw video by ComputerPhile]		For a really good explanation of how incredibly complex the seemingly trivial act of keeping track of time is, see this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSzwPcL5Dw video by ComputerPhile]
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		+	<blockquote>Also only '''capital letters''' are used in the comics (except in special '''cases''').</blockquote>
		+	Pun intended? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.184\|141.101.88.184]] 11:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

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	[[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.169\|108.162.250.169]] 12:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC) An illustrative quote comes to mind: "By an equally suspicious freak of temporal relastatics, it is nearly always Saturday afternoon just before the bars close." Description of Ursa Minor Beta, The Restaurant At The End of The Universe, chapter 4.		[[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.169\|108.162.250.169]] 12:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC) An illustrative quote comes to mind: "By an equally suspicious freak of temporal relastatics, it is nearly always Saturday afternoon just before the bars close." Description of Ursa Minor Beta, The Restaurant At The End of The Universe, chapter 4.
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		+	[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.156\|108.162.238.156]] 20:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
		+	For a really good explanation of how incredibly complex the seemingly trivial act of keeping track of time is, see this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSzwPcL5Dw video by ComputerPhile]

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 In Megan's response, the "h" in "19th" is backwards.
 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.214.239|108.162.214.239]] 05:47, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 :I'm pretty sure that's a mistake since lowercase letters normally aren't used. [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 05:49, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 :Looks like he forgot the line on the upper left. He used the capital 19TH for Cueball. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.48.60|173.245.48.60]] 07:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

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	::Also, given enough time, the day will be 25 hours long, for a few hours a week drift if you want to stick to UT as your arbitrary timekeeping system! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.162\|108.162.249.162]] 01:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)		::Also, given enough time, the day will be 25 hours long, for a few hours a week drift if you want to stick to UT as your arbitrary timekeeping system! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.162\|108.162.249.162]] 01:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
	::: I concur, the last sentence adds nothing to the explanation and should probably be removed. [[User:Spongebog\|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog\|talk]]) 03:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)		::: I concur, the last sentence adds nothing to the explanation and should probably be removed. [[User:Spongebog\|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog\|talk]]) 03:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
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		+	[[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.169\|108.162.250.169]] 12:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC) An illustrative quote comes to mind: "By an equally suspicious freak of temporal relastatics, it is nearly always Saturday afternoon just before the bars close." Description of Ursa Minor Beta, The Restaurant At The End of The Universe, chapter 4.

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 I am so happy Randall decided to mock leap seconds. The human race just needs to accept that the rotation of the Earth is not a constant and stop pretending that it is. If we ingored leap seconds it would only add up to a few hours a lifetime. So what if 12pm is a different time as the years pass? It may be annoying but that is the world we live one. We can still have noon be the height of the sun if we want, it will just be a different time. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.133.73|199.27.133.73]] 17:25, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 :Does that last paragraph add anything to the article? The title text is mocking leap seconds about as much as the main comic is mocking leap days (ie- not really), and the odds that a server is able to handle NTP corrections due to regular clock drift, but unable to handle a 1 second jump in a single NTP correction seems like very poor mojo.  I have no idea why the linux hrtimer subsystem cared about the wall-clock time, since it's a well known fact that the wall-clock time can change for a large number of reasons, and so you can't have your system go haywire every time it does. Google hasn't actually fixed anything, they are simply offering an NTP service that provides leap second corrections over a long smear - at the cost of being out of sync with UTC for up to a second at a time.
-If anything, that link to livescience needs to be removed as the worst kind of fear-mongering and click-bait.  GPS doesn't care about leap seconds, and GPS time is well-known to drift from UTC; if your GPS receiver is making adjustments for leap seconds, then it's going to be inaccurate in every other way, as well.
+::If anything, that link to livescience needs to be removed as the worst kind of fear-mongering and click-bait.  GPS doesn't care about leap seconds, and GPS time is well-known to drift from UTC; if your GPS receiver is making adjustments for leap seconds, then it's going to be inaccurate in every other way, as well.
-Also, given enough time, the day will be 25 hours long, for a few hours a week drift if you want to stick to UT as your arbitrary timekeeping system! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.162|108.162.249.162]] 01:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
+::Also, given enough time, the day will be 25 hours long, for a few hours a week drift if you want to stick to UT as your arbitrary timekeeping system! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.162|108.162.249.162]] 01:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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	I am so happy Randall decided to mock leap seconds. The human race just needs to accept that the rotation of the Earth is not a constant and stop pretending that it is. If we ingored leap seconds it would only add up to a few hours a lifetime. So what if 12pm is a different time as the years pass? It may be annoying but that is the world we live one. We can still have noon be the height of the sun if we want, it will just be a different time. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.133.73\|199.27.133.73]] 17:25, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		I am so happy Randall decided to mock leap seconds. The human race just needs to accept that the rotation of the Earth is not a constant and stop pretending that it is. If we ingored leap seconds it would only add up to a few hours a lifetime. So what if 12pm is a different time as the years pass? It may be annoying but that is the world we live one. We can still have noon be the height of the sun if we want, it will just be a different time. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.133.73\|199.27.133.73]] 17:25, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
		+	:Does that last paragraph add anything to the article? The title text is mocking leap seconds about as much as the main comic is mocking leap days (ie- not really), and the odds that a server is able to handle NTP corrections due to regular clock drift, but unable to handle a 1 second jump in a single NTP correction seems like very poor mojo. I have no idea why the linux hrtimer subsystem cared about the wall-clock time, since it's a well known fact that the wall-clock time can change for a large number of reasons, and so you can't have your system go haywire every time it does. Google hasn't actually fixed anything, they are simply offering an NTP service that provides leap second corrections over a long smear - at the cost of being out of sync with UTC for up to a second at a time.
		+	If anything, that link to livescience needs to be removed as the worst kind of fear-mongering and click-bait. GPS doesn't care about leap seconds, and GPS time is well-known to drift from UTC; if your GPS receiver is making adjustments for leap seconds, then it's going to be inaccurate in every other way, as well.
		+	Also, given enough time, the day will be 25 hours long, for a few hours a week drift if you want to stick to UT as your arbitrary timekeeping system! [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.162\|108.162.249.162]] 01:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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	Not unrelated concept. Just not fully understood. Rotate 360 degrees is a simple way of putting things that ignores the diffrence between solar days and sidereal days. Incorrect not because someone doesn't understand the topic being discussed but because someone hasn't studied astronomy or seriously thought about how the movement of the Earth effects the length of the day--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.183\|108.162.237.183]] 13:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC).		Not unrelated concept. Just not fully understood. Rotate 360 degrees is a simple way of putting things that ignores the diffrence between solar days and sidereal days. Incorrect not because someone doesn't understand the topic being discussed but because someone hasn't studied astronomy or seriously thought about how the movement of the Earth effects the length of the day--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.183\|108.162.237.183]] 13:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC).
		+	:Guilty. No excuse either, because I actually knew (but just forgot) about the difference between sidereal and solar days. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.162\|108.162.249.162]] 01:14, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

	While you are true on one part, that Earth doesn't take 24 hours to rotate 360 degrees (it takes around 23 hours and 56 minutes if I recall correctly), leap seconds are used to account for differences between 24 hours and a solar day. If it was used to adjust the length of the year the time of day would drift, it would also be fairly pointless as the leap days take us out by 1/4 of a day.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.175\|108.162.250.175]] 10:41, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		While you are true on one part, that Earth doesn't take 24 hours to rotate 360 degrees (it takes around 23 hours and 56 minutes if I recall correctly), leap seconds are used to account for differences between 24 hours and a solar day. If it was used to adjust the length of the year the time of day would drift, it would also be fairly pointless as the leap days take us out by 1/4 of a day.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.175\|108.162.250.175]] 10:41, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

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 :I think that's wrong, too.  Just my vote towards encouraging someone who wants to consider rewording it.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.160|141.101.98.160]] 16:10, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
-I want to clarify a bit here. Leap days account for the fact that the rotation period of the Earth does not evenly divide into the resolution period. As such we can predict when each leap day will happen in the future. Leap seconds on the other hand are due to variance in the Earths rotation caused by various factors. Leap seconds cannot be predicted and must be observed by measurement and corrected for after the fact. It is based on the fact that the Earth's rotation varies.
+I want to clarify a bit here. Leap days account for the fact that the rotation period of the Earth does not evenly divide into the revolution period. As such we can predict when each leap day will happen in the future. Leap seconds on the other hand are due to variance in the Earths rotation caused by various factors. Leap seconds cannot be predicted and must be observed by measurement and corrected for after the fact. It is based on the fact that the Earth's rotation varies.
 I am so happy Randall decided to mock leap seconds. The human race just needs to accept that the rotation of the Earth is not a constant and stop pretending that it is. If we ingored leap seconds it would only add up to a few hours a lifetime. So what if 12pm is a different time as the years pass? It may be annoying but that is the world we live one. We can still have noon be the height of the sun if we want, it will just be a different time. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.133.73|199.27.133.73]] 17:25, 20 April 2015 (UTC)