Talk:1588: Hardware Reductionism - Revision history

Nitpicking: Undo revision 316870 by XKCD Official (talk) That is some of the most open vandalism ever

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Undo revision 316870 by XKCD Official (talk) That is some of the most open vandalism ever

XKCD Official: Replaced content with "Vandalised"

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Replaced content with "Vandalised"

Nitpicking at 20:17, 14 January 2022

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162.158.255.142 at 23:54, 10 December 2017

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108.162.246.203 at 10:25, 18 April 2017

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173.245.54.14: names are important but misleading

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names are important but misleading

173.245.50.149: typo

2015-10-14T20:53:04Z

typo

173.245.50.149 at 20:52, 14 October 2015

2015-10-14T20:52:21Z

141.101.98.188 at 08:43, 13 October 2015

2015-10-13T08:43:57Z

Flekkie: ~compliments on the job well done

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~compliments on the job well done

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		+	Is "TRIATHOLON" just a typo, or does it have a special comic value? {{unsigned ip\|141.101.106.77}}
		+	:At this moment of creation it exists in a limbo in which it is both a typo and a joke, but now that it is has been released for viewers to take measures, the function will soon collapse into just one of the possible states. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.197\|162.158.34.197]] 13:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
		+	::It's clearly a spelling mistake (not a typo). See http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Triathalon, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/athelete. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149\|173.245.50.149]] 13:19, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
		+	:I'm going with the theory it's a joke around the philosophical [[wikipedia:Holon (philosophy)\|Holon]]. [[User:Elvenivle\|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle\|talk]]) 17:53, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	I don't think this is just parodying left-brain right-brain myths. Rather, it's parodying neural reductionism of all kinds—the currently widespread myth that our selves are determined genetically by brain structure alone, minimizing the role of culture and the way experience rewires the brain. In particular, the part about "phones like yours" makes me think of "women are from venus"–style myths (where, say, a slight correlation is found between gender and size of spacial processing module, etc, and pop-sci media reports it as WOMEN ARE INHERENTLY BAD AT SPATIAL REASONING).
		+	[[User:Leoboiko\|Leoboiko]] ([[User talk:Leoboiko\|talk]]) 13:25, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
		+	:Seems plausible. Care to add? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.104\|108.162.216.104]] 13:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC
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		+	This is a real good, thorough and solid explanation. I'm impressed, well done! [[User:Flekkie\|Flekkie]] ([[User talk:Flekkie\|talk]]) 01:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Or it could be a riff on the current "Thinking Fast and Thinking Slow" model, which considers the brain as having two distinct (Type 1 and Type 2) types of thinking, often described as two separate actors in the brain, in spite of the fact that they probably overlap a lot in the sections of the brain used.
		+	[[User:Blackbearnh\|Blackbearnh]] ([[User talk:Blackbearnh\|talk]]) 14:16, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	How about the typo of "coment" in the comment about the typo in the comic... {{unsigned ip\|173.245.54.91}}
		+	:"Coment" may be a typo (error when typing) or a misspelling (when you don't know the correct spelling). "Triatholon" can only be a misspelling, because the comic is not typed. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149\|173.245.50.149]] 18:12, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
		+	:: “ "Triatholon" can only be a misspelling, because the comic is not typed.”
		+	:: You can make a mistake when handwriting. It's not a typo, but neither is it a misspelling.
		+	:: [[Special:Contributions/173.245.49.78\|173.245.49.78]] 21:55, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
		+	:::I'm 100% sure Randall doesn't know the spelling of "triathlon". You simply don't add an extra letter when writing by hand "by mistake". BTW, it is corrected right now. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149\|173.245.50.149]] 20:52, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Might the two cores' difficulty handling three events be meant as a parallel to the functional brain study result showing humans multitask only two things, with one frontal lobe handling each task (and the introduction of a third task results in timesharing rather than parallel processing of all three)?
		+	[[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.139\|173.245.50.139]] 22:15, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
		+	:It could, but the three events in a triathlon don't involve multitasking - the events run in serial, not in parallel. I'm thinking about noting this in the text somewhere, but haven't though what to say about it yet - it seems peripheral. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.161\|108.162.250.161]] 00:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
		+	::In that case, you should put it in an extremely offset side-bar. Like, you know, in everyone's peripheral vision.... (...I'll get my coat.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.188\|141.101.98.188]] 08:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually believed the phone explanation. It sounds more plausible that several marketing claims. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 18:29, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	How about the idea that people overgeneralize the function of objects (cores, regions of the brain) based on their names. If a dual-core phone can only process 2 things at a time then it can't process a triathlon as well as a quad-core phone. If a brain region is dedicated to 3D objects then there must be some connection to enjoying (processing) 3D doritos.[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.14\|173.245.54.14]] 13:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Shouldn't the image here be changed to reflect the current version on the website, with the corrected spelling? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203\|108.162.246.203]] 10:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
		+	:Yes. So I did it. Sorry you had to wait five years .... [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 20:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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		+	I just realized that the "three events" thing is a pun based off the three events (biking, swimming, running) of a triathlon. Amazing stuff! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.142\|162.158.255.142]] 23:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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−	~~Is "TRIATHOLON" just a typo, or does it have a special comic value? {{unsigned ip\|141.101.106.77}}~~
−	:At this moment of creation it exists in a limbo in which it is both a typo and a joke, but now that it is has been released for viewers to take measures, the function will soon collapse into just one of the possible states. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.197\|162.158.34.197]] 13:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
−	::It's clearly a spelling mistake (not a typo). See http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Triathalon, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/athelete. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149\|173.245.50.149]] 13:19, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
−	~~:I'm going with the theory it's a joke around the philosophical [[wikipedia:Holon (philosophy)\|Holon]]. [[User:Elvenivle\|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle\|talk]]) 17:53, 9 October 2015 (UTC)~~
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−	I don't think this is just parodying left-brain right-brain myths. Rather, it's parodying neural reductionism of all kinds—the currently widespread myth that our selves are determined genetically by brain structure alone, minimizing the role of culture and the way experience rewires the brain. In particular, the part about "phones like yours" makes me think of "women are from venus"–style myths (where, say, a slight correlation is found between gender and size of spacial processing module, etc, and pop-sci media reports it as WOMEN ARE INHERENTLY BAD AT SPATIAL REASONING).
−	~~[[User:Leoboiko\|Leoboiko]] ([[User talk:Leoboiko\|talk]]) 13:25, 9 October 2015 (UTC)~~
−	~~:Seems plausible. Care to add? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.104\|108.162.216.104]] 13:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC~~
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−	~~This is a real good, thorough and solid explanation. I'm impressed, well done! [[User:Flekkie\|Flekkie]] ([[User talk:Flekkie\|talk]]) 01:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)~~
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−	Or it could be a riff on the current "Thinking Fast and Thinking Slow" model, which considers the brain as having two distinct (Type 1 and Type 2) types of thinking, often described as two separate actors in the brain, in spite of the fact that they probably overlap a lot in the sections of the brain used.
−	~~[[User:Blackbearnh\|Blackbearnh]] ([[User talk:Blackbearnh\|talk]]) 14:16, 9 October 2015 (UTC)~~
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−	~~How about the typo of "coment" in the comment about the typo in the comic... {{unsigned ip\|173.245.54.91}}~~
−	:"Coment" may be a typo (error when typing) or a misspelling (when you don't know the correct spelling). "Triatholon" can only be a misspelling, because the comic is not typed. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149\|173.245.50.149]] 18:12, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
−	~~:: “ "Triatholon" can only be a misspelling, because the comic is not typed.”~~
−	~~:: You can make a mistake when handwriting. It's not a typo, but neither is it a misspelling.~~
−	~~:: [[Special:Contributions/173.245.49.78\|173.245.49.78]] 21:55, 9 October 2015 (UTC)~~
−	:::I'm 100% sure Randall doesn't know the spelling of "triathlon". You simply don't add an extra letter when writing by hand "by mistake". BTW, it is corrected right now. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149\|173.245.50.149]] 20:52, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
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−	Might the two cores' difficulty handling three events be meant as a parallel to the functional brain study result showing humans multitask only two things, with one frontal lobe handling each task (and the introduction of a third task results in timesharing rather than parallel processing of all three)?
−	~~[[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.139\|173.245.50.139]] 22:15, 9 October 2015 (UTC)~~
−	:It could, but the three events in a triathlon don't involve multitasking - the events run in serial, not in parallel. I'm thinking about noting this in the text somewhere, but haven't though what to say about it yet - it seems peripheral. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.161\|108.162.250.161]] 00:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
−	::In that case, you should put it in an extremely offset side-bar. Like, you know, in everyone's peripheral vision.... (...I'll get my coat.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.188\|141.101.98.188]] 08:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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−	I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually believed the phone explanation. It sounds more plausible that several marketing claims. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 18:29, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
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−	How about the idea that people overgeneralize the function of objects (cores, regions of the brain) based on their names. If a dual-core phone can only process 2 things at a time then it can't process a triathlon as well as a quad-core phone. If a brain region is dedicated to 3D objects then there must be some connection to enjoying (processing) 3D doritos.[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.14\|173.245.54.14]] 13:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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−	~~Shouldn't the image here be changed to reflect the current version on the website, with the corrected spelling? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203\|108.162.246.203]] 10:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)~~
−	~~:Yes. So I did it. Sorry you had to wait five years .... [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 20:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)~~
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−	I just realized that the "three events" thing is a pun based off the three events (biking, swimming, running) of a triathlon. Amazing stuff! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.142\|162.158.255.142]] 23:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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	Shouldn't the image here be changed to reflect the current version on the website, with the corrected spelling? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203\|108.162.246.203]] 10:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)		Shouldn't the image here be changed to reflect the current version on the website, with the corrected spelling? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203\|108.162.246.203]] 10:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
		+	:Yes. So I did it. Sorry you had to wait five years .... [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 20:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

	I just realized that the "three events" thing is a pun based off the three events (biking, swimming, running) of a triathlon. Amazing stuff! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.142\|162.158.255.142]] 23:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)		I just realized that the "three events" thing is a pun based off the three events (biking, swimming, running) of a triathlon. Amazing stuff! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.142\|162.158.255.142]] 23:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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	Shouldn't the image here be changed to reflect the current version on the website, with the corrected spelling? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203\|108.162.246.203]] 10:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)		Shouldn't the image here be changed to reflect the current version on the website, with the corrected spelling? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203\|108.162.246.203]] 10:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
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		+	I just realized that the "three events" thing is a pun based off the three events (biking, swimming, running) of a triathlon. Amazing stuff! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.142\|162.158.255.142]] 23:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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	How about the idea that people overgeneralize the function of objects (cores, regions of the brain) based on their names. If a dual-core phone can only process 2 things at a time then it can't process a triathlon as well as a quad-core phone. If a brain region is dedicated to 3D objects then there must be some connection to enjoying (processing) 3D doritos.[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.14\|173.245.54.14]] 13:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)		How about the idea that people overgeneralize the function of objects (cores, regions of the brain) based on their names. If a dual-core phone can only process 2 things at a time then it can't process a triathlon as well as a quad-core phone. If a brain region is dedicated to 3D objects then there must be some connection to enjoying (processing) 3D doritos.[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.14\|173.245.54.14]] 13:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Shouldn't the image here be changed to reflect the current version on the website, with the corrected spelling? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.203\|108.162.246.203]] 10:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

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	I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually believed the phone explanation. It sounds more plausible that several marketing claims. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 18:29, 10 October 2015 (UTC)		I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually believed the phone explanation. It sounds more plausible that several marketing claims. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 18:29, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	How about the idea that people overgeneralize the function of objects (cores, regions of the brain) based on their names. If a dual-core phone can only process 2 things at a time then it can't process a triathlon as well as a quad-core phone. If a brain region is dedicated to 3D objects then there must be some connection to enjoying (processing) 3D doritos.[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.14\|173.245.54.14]] 13:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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 :: You can make a mistake when handwriting. It's not a typo, but neither is it a misspelling.
 :: [[Special:Contributions/173.245.49.78|173.245.49.78]] 21:55, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
-:::I'm 100% sure Randall doesn't know the speling of "triathlon". You simply don't add an extra letter when writing by hand "by mistake". BTW, it is corrected right now. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149|173.245.50.149]] 20:52, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
+:::I'm 100% sure Randall doesn't know the spelling of "triathlon". You simply don't add an extra letter when writing by hand "by mistake". BTW, it is corrected right now. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.149|173.245.50.149]] 20:52, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 Might the two cores' difficulty handling three events be meant as a parallel to the functional brain study result showing humans multitask only two things, with one frontal lobe handling each task (and the introduction of a third task results in timesharing rather than parallel processing of all three)?

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 [[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.139|173.245.50.139]] 22:15, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 :It could, but the three events in a triathlon don't involve multitasking - the events run in serial, not in parallel. I'm thinking about noting this in the text somewhere, but haven't though what to say about it yet - it seems peripheral. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.161|108.162.250.161]] 00:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually believed the phone explanation. It sounds more plausible that several marketing claims. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 18:29, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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 Is "TRIATHOLON" just a typo, or does it have a special comic value? {{unsigned ip|141.101.106.77}}
 :At this moment of creation it exists in a limbo in which it is both a typo and a joke, but now that it is has been released for viewers to take measures, the function will soon collapse into just one of the possible states. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.197|162.158.34.197]] 13:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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 [[User:Leoboiko|Leoboiko]] ([[User talk:Leoboiko|talk]]) 13:25, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 :Seems plausible.  Care to add? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.104|108.162.216.104]] 13:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC
 Or it could be a riff on the current "Thinking Fast and Thinking Slow" model, which considers the brain as having two distinct (Type 1 and Type 2) types of thinking, often described as two separate actors in the brain, in spite of the fact that they probably overlap a lot in the sections of the brain used.