Talk:1590: The Source - Revision history

While False at 07:16, 8 December 2022

2022-12-08T07:16:05Z

172.70.86.10 at 06:10, 7 December 2022

2022-12-07T06:10:29Z

141.101.98.154 at 22:31, 1 May 2017

2017-05-01T22:31:11Z

162.158.56.173 at 20:43, 2 November 2015

2015-11-02T20:43:59Z

162.158.56.173 at 20:42, 2 November 2015

2015-11-02T20:42:19Z

108.162.216.25: just fixed the positioning of a line.

2015-10-30T17:03:43Z

just fixed the positioning of a line.

162.158.90.191 at 22:04, 26 October 2015

2015-10-26T22:04:16Z

Davidy22 at 06:37, 22 October 2015

2015-10-22T06:37:06Z

Sensorfire at 04:16, 22 October 2015

2015-10-22T04:16:51Z

DanB at 17:44, 16 October 2015

2015-10-16T17:44:34Z

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	There's a storyteller by A.E. van Vogt, "The War against the Rull", which involves a young boy seeking the source of an almost subliminal noise.		There's a storyteller by A.E. van Vogt, "The War against the Rull", which involves a young boy seeking the source of an almost subliminal noise.

−	There's an [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-63610977 ongoing hum] (low-pitched) still bothering a community, which I see again is in the news. Unrelated (as I don't live there) I also seem to have a sensitivity to a mains-frequency hum in the very fabric of a building (not tracable to TVs, computers, fridges, central-heating punps, etc). I can move my head around to change the intensity, but without better localisation... It seems to be pervasive and I'm just ducking into and out of complex reinforcing/destructive interference patterns from the multisource and/or wall-reflected disturbances, at a scale which seems to involve each ear differently. Right now, in a quiet room, I can perceive some actual tinnitus whine (would not consider it a high-pitched "hum"), the 'mains hum' (or so I presume, and this is what I always imagined the comic's device to "be creating", if you consider 50hz "high pitched"), the white-noise of the gas fire's burner ''and'' the sound of a straining computer fan in the next room (I'm running something intensive on it, from time to time there's a step-change up or down in its speed, so distinct and aurally observable as unrelated to the generally consistant 'mains hum' - not even an overtone/undertone relationship, if I'm any judge).	+	There's an [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-63610977 ongoing hum] (low-pitched) still bothering a community, which I see again is in the news. Unrelated (as I don't live there) I also seem to have a sensitivity to a mains-frequency hum in the very fabric of a building (not tracable to TVs, computers, fridges, central-heating punps, etc). I can move my head around to change the intensity, but without better localisation... It seems to be pervasive and I'm just ducking into and out of complex reinforcing/destructive interference patterns from the multisource and/or wall-reflected disturbances, at a scale which seems to involve each ear differently. Right now, in a quiet room, I can perceive some actual tinnitus whine (would not consider it a high-pitched "hum"), the 'mains hum' (or so I presume, and this is what I always imagined the comic's device to "be creating", if you consider 50hz "high pitched"), the white-noise of the gas fire's burner ''and'' the sound of a straining computer fan in the next room (I'm running something intensive on it, from time to time there's a step-change up or down in its speed, so distinct and aurally observable as unrelated to the generally consistant 'mains hum' - not even an overtone/undertone relationship, if I'm any judge). —{{unsigned ip\|172.70.86.10}}

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	For those of us of a certain age, there was a very specific high-pitched sound in almost everyone's daily environment: the horizontal line rate (sometimes called retrace frequency) of analog televisions. For the U.S. NTSC system, this was about 15.7 kHz (PAL: 15.6 kHz). Televisions almost inevitably produced this sound because the "flyback" transformer which produced the voltage used to steer the electron beam back and forth underwent some mechanical stress each time the beam was rapidly swept back for the next line ("retrace"), thus moving some air and creating the sound. This pitch is high enough that in a room full of people there would be some who could and some who could not hear it. The sound is also quite similar to the perceived sound many people with tinnitus experience. Between these two effects, it was easy for arguments to start about whether the sound was real or not. I was always very sensitive to the sound and could tell from several rooms away if a television was on. (Also: love the Philip Glass, both original and choral versions.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.173\|162.158.56.173]] 20:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)		For those of us of a certain age, there was a very specific high-pitched sound in almost everyone's daily environment: the horizontal line rate (sometimes called retrace frequency) of analog televisions. For the U.S. NTSC system, this was about 15.7 kHz (PAL: 15.6 kHz). Televisions almost inevitably produced this sound because the "flyback" transformer which produced the voltage used to steer the electron beam back and forth underwent some mechanical stress each time the beam was rapidly swept back for the next line ("retrace"), thus moving some air and creating the sound. This pitch is high enough that in a room full of people there would be some who could and some who could not hear it. The sound is also quite similar to the perceived sound many people with tinnitus experience. Between these two effects, it was easy for arguments to start about whether the sound was real or not. I was always very sensitive to the sound and could tell from several rooms away if a television was on. (Also: love the Philip Glass, both original and choral versions.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.173\|162.158.56.173]] 20:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
	There's a storyteller by A.E. van Vogt, "The War against the Rull", which involves a young boy seeking the source of an almost subliminal noise.		There's a storyteller by A.E. van Vogt, "The War against the Rull", which involves a young boy seeking the source of an almost subliminal noise.
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		+	There's an [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-63610977 ongoing hum] (low-pitched) still bothering a community, which I see again is in the news. Unrelated (as I don't live there) I also seem to have a sensitivity to a mains-frequency hum in the very fabric of a building (not tracable to TVs, computers, fridges, central-heating punps, etc). I can move my head around to change the intensity, but without better localisation... It seems to be pervasive and I'm just ducking into and out of complex reinforcing/destructive interference patterns from the multisource and/or wall-reflected disturbances, at a scale which seems to involve each ear differently. Right now, in a quiet room, I can perceive some actual tinnitus whine (would not consider it a high-pitched "hum"), the 'mains hum' (or so I presume, and this is what I always imagined the comic's device to "be creating", if you consider 50hz "high pitched"), the white-noise of the gas fire's burner ''and'' the sound of a straining computer fan in the next room (I'm running something intensive on it, from time to time there's a step-change up or down in its speed, so distinct and aurally observable as unrelated to the generally consistant 'mains hum' - not even an overtone/undertone relationship, if I'm any judge).

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	For those of us of a certain age, there was a very specific high-pitched sound in almost everyone's daily environment: the horizontal line rate (sometimes called retrace frequency) of analog televisions. For the U.S. NTSC system, this was about 15.7 kHz (PAL: 15.6 kHz). Televisions almost inevitably produced this sound because the "flyback" transformer which produced the voltage used to steer the electron beam back and forth underwent some mechanical stress each time the beam was rapidly swept back for the next line ("retrace"), thus moving some air and creating the sound. This pitch is high enough that in a room full of people there would be some who could and some who could not hear it. The sound is also quite similar to the perceived sound many people with tinnitus experience. Between these two effects, it was easy for arguments to start about whether the sound was real or not. I was always very sensitive to the sound and could tell from several rooms away if a television was on. (Also: love the Philip Glass, both original and choral versions.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.173\|162.158.56.173]] 20:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)		For those of us of a certain age, there was a very specific high-pitched sound in almost everyone's daily environment: the horizontal line rate (sometimes called retrace frequency) of analog televisions. For the U.S. NTSC system, this was about 15.7 kHz (PAL: 15.6 kHz). Televisions almost inevitably produced this sound because the "flyback" transformer which produced the voltage used to steer the electron beam back and forth underwent some mechanical stress each time the beam was rapidly swept back for the next line ("retrace"), thus moving some air and creating the sound. This pitch is high enough that in a room full of people there would be some who could and some who could not hear it. The sound is also quite similar to the perceived sound many people with tinnitus experience. Between these two effects, it was easy for arguments to start about whether the sound was real or not. I was always very sensitive to the sound and could tell from several rooms away if a television was on. (Also: love the Philip Glass, both original and choral versions.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.173\|162.158.56.173]] 20:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
		+	There's a storyteller by A.E. van Vogt, "The War against the Rull", which involves a young boy seeking the source of an almost subliminal noise.

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	This is exactly what happened to my Samsung monitor before it died. I was going to bed one night and this high-pitched noise was driving me insane. I turned my PC on, only for the monitor to go black. The problem with these high-pitched noises is that they're hard to locate. -[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.191\|162.158.90.191]] 22:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)		This is exactly what happened to my Samsung monitor before it died. I was going to bed one night and this high-pitched noise was driving me insane. I turned my PC on, only for the monitor to go black. The problem with these high-pitched noises is that they're hard to locate. -[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.191\|162.158.90.191]] 22:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

−	For those of us of a certain age, there was a very specific high-pitched sound in almost everyone's daily environment: the horizontal line rate (sometimes called retrace frequency) of analog televisions. For the U.S. NTSC system, this was about 15.7 kHz (PAL: 15.6 kHz). Televisions almost inevitably produced this sound because the "flyback" transformer which produced the voltage used to steer the electron beam back and forth underwent some mechanical stress each time the beam was rapidly swept back for the next line ("retrace"), thus moving some air and creating the sound. This pitch is high enough that in a room full of people there would be some who could and some who could not hear it. The sound is also quite similar to the perceived sound many people with tinnitus experience. Between these two effects, it was easy for arguments to start about whether the sound was real or not. I was always very sensitive to the sound and could tell from several rooms away if a television was on. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.173\|162.158.56.173]] 20:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)	+	For those of us of a certain age, there was a very specific high-pitched sound in almost everyone's daily environment: the horizontal line rate (sometimes called retrace frequency) of analog televisions. For the U.S. NTSC system, this was about 15.7 kHz (PAL: 15.6 kHz). Televisions almost inevitably produced this sound because the "flyback" transformer which produced the voltage used to steer the electron beam back and forth underwent some mechanical stress each time the beam was rapidly swept back for the next line ("retrace"), thus moving some air and creating the sound. This pitch is high enough that in a room full of people there would be some who could and some who could not hear it. The sound is also quite similar to the perceived sound many people with tinnitus experience. Between these two effects, it was easy for arguments to start about whether the sound was real or not. I was always very sensitive to the sound and could tell from several rooms away if a television was on. (Also: love the Philip Glass, both original and choral versions.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.173\|162.158.56.173]] 20:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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	This is exactly what happened to my Samsung monitor before it died. I was going to bed one night and this high-pitched noise was driving me insane. I turned my PC on, only for the monitor to go black. The problem with these high-pitched noises is that they're hard to locate. -[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.191\|162.158.90.191]] 22:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)		This is exactly what happened to my Samsung monitor before it died. I was going to bed one night and this high-pitched noise was driving me insane. I turned my PC on, only for the monitor to go black. The problem with these high-pitched noises is that they're hard to locate. -[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.191\|162.158.90.191]] 22:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	For those of us of a certain age, there was a very specific high-pitched sound in almost everyone's daily environment: the horizontal line rate (sometimes called retrace frequency) of analog televisions. For the U.S. NTSC system, this was about 15.7 kHz (PAL: 15.6 kHz). Televisions almost inevitably produced this sound because the "flyback" transformer which produced the voltage used to steer the electron beam back and forth underwent some mechanical stress each time the beam was rapidly swept back for the next line ("retrace"), thus moving some air and creating the sound. This pitch is high enough that in a room full of people there would be some who could and some who could not hear it. The sound is also quite similar to the perceived sound many people with tinnitus experience. Between these two effects, it was easy for arguments to start about whether the sound was real or not. I was always very sensitive to the sound and could tell from several rooms away if a television was on. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.173\|162.158.56.173]] 20:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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 :I suspect the title text to be the most common wording for this kind of question, so it could not be a reference to whatever in any way. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.66.23|141.101.66.23]] 14:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 Here is a hum generator for you, from a noise generator website:
 http://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/60HzHumNoiseGenerator.php
 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.115|108.162.216.115]] 15:15, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 "There do, however, exist devices that are meant to create a high pitched hum, that people might wish to install in their house. These will be humming in the ultrasonic regions, although cheap versions can often be heard by young people. They are typically used for electronic pest control. Maybe someone tried to get rid of Cueball." - while I don't think the comic is intended to reference this, the above selection somehow almost entirely surrounds the concept of an {{w|The_Mosquito|ultrasonic youth-control device}} without actually involving it.  (Probably because the editor(s) involved don't actually know about it.  Maybe now they do.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.75.185|141.101.75.185]] 15:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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	Oh, goddammit. I never noticed that before. Go onto xplainkcd, now I can't stop hearing it. Argh! [[User:Sensorfire\|Sensorfire]] ([[User talk:Sensorfire\|talk]]) 04:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)		Oh, goddammit. I never noticed that before. Go onto xplainkcd, now I can't stop hearing it. Argh! [[User:Sensorfire\|Sensorfire]] ([[User talk:Sensorfire\|talk]]) 04:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	This is exactly what happened to my Samsung monitor before it died. I was going to bed one night and this high-pitched noise was driving me insane. I turned my PC on, only for the monitor to go black. The problem with these high-pitched noises is that they're hard to locate. -[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.191\|162.158.90.191]] 22:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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 As soon as I finished this comic, I started to hear it. Please, make it stop. It's not on the basement, nor the attic. It's getting louder. Driving me crazy. Please. Maybe this gun would help me to shut the noise down. Now, where should I aim it? {{unsigned ip|108.162.212.38}}
 :Very dark humour there from anonymous... I guess it will be to late to help him now. But if he misses he will have even more ringing noises in his ears than after reading this comic. ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:13, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
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 I keep checking mine, but I guess it runs on batteries since I still hear it. -[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 17:44, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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		+	Oh, goddammit. I never noticed that before. Go onto xplainkcd, now I can't stop hearing it. Argh! [[User:Sensorfire\|Sensorfire]] ([[User talk:Sensorfire\|talk]]) 04:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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	As soon as I finished this comic, I started to hear it. Please, make it stop. It's not on the basement, nor the attic. It's getting louder. Driving me crazy. Please. Maybe this gun would help me to shut the noise down. Now, where should I aim it? {{unsigned ip\|108.162.212.38}}		As soon as I finished this comic, I started to hear it. Please, make it stop. It's not on the basement, nor the attic. It's getting louder. Driving me crazy. Please. Maybe this gun would help me to shut the noise down. Now, where should I aim it? {{unsigned ip\|108.162.212.38}}
	:Very dark humour there from anonymous... I guess it will be to late to help him now. But if he misses he will have even more ringing noises in his ears than after reading this comic. ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:13, 14 October 2015 (UTC)		:Very dark humour there from anonymous... I guess it will be to late to help him now. But if he misses he will have even more ringing noises in his ears than after reading this comic. ;-) --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:13, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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	For me, I first thought of retro computer games, like Duke Nukem, these games had lots of weird stuff that did nothing but generate noise like this. [[User:Jack\|Jack]] ([[User talk:Jack\|talk]]) 13:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)		For me, I first thought of retro computer games, like Duke Nukem, these games had lots of weird stuff that did nothing but generate noise like this. [[User:Jack\|Jack]] ([[User talk:Jack\|talk]]) 13:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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		+	I keep checking mine, but I guess it runs on batteries since I still hear it. -[[User:DanB\|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB\|talk]]) 17:44, 16 October 2015 (UTC)