Talk:1602: Linguistics Club - Revision history

Davidy22 at 04:21, 16 November 2015

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188.114.103.19 at 01:18, 16 November 2015

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141.101.106.161 at 00:33, 14 November 2015

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162.158.153.29 at 22:33, 13 November 2015

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Kaay at 09:44, 13 November 2015

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141.101.106.161 at 07:35, 13 November 2015

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Bon at 06:45, 13 November 2015

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RAGBRAIvet at 16:48, 12 November 2015

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RAGBRAIvet at 16:45, 12 November 2015

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	: The irony is that the possibly misused Bimonthly (Semimonthly, twice a month) is ''almost'' the same as Biweekly (in the sense of every two weeks). And indistinguishable, most of the time, from each othet, going just by two adjacent events... Or so it appears to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.153.29\|162.158.153.29]] 22:33, 13 November 2015 (UTC)		: The irony is that the possibly misused Bimonthly (Semimonthly, twice a month) is ''almost'' the same as Biweekly (in the sense of every two weeks). And indistinguishable, most of the time, from each othet, going just by two adjacent events... Or so it appears to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.153.29\|162.158.153.29]] 22:33, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

−	Could it be possible that the idea of the usage of the word "sesqui-" came from "Sesquilinear form", a generalizaton of biliear form, used for example to define the innner product in hilbert spaces? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sesquilinear_form for more info. I think that this could be a possibility, based on the author background.	+	Could it be possible that the idea of the usage of the word "sesqui-" came from "Sesquilinear form", a generalizaton of biliear form, used for example to define the innner product in hilbert spaces? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sesquilinear_form for more info. I think that this could be a possibility, based on the author background. {{unsigned ip\|188.114.103.19}}

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	"A common method of having meetings "on the first and third Monday of every month" is strictly twice-monthly but also mostly, and ironically, once every two weeks..." Can't see the irony. Is my brain derping or or am I now ''that'' person? --[[User:Kaay\|Kaay]] ([[User talk:Kaay\|talk]]) 09:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)		"A common method of having meetings "on the first and third Monday of every month" is strictly twice-monthly but also mostly, and ironically, once every two weeks..." Can't see the irony. Is my brain derping or or am I now ''that'' person? --[[User:Kaay\|Kaay]] ([[User talk:Kaay\|talk]]) 09:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
	: The irony is that the possibly misused Bimonthly (Semimonthly, twice a month) is ''almost'' the same as Biweekly (in the sense of every two weeks). And indistinguishable, most of the time, from each othet, going just by two adjacent events... Or so it appears to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.153.29\|162.158.153.29]] 22:33, 13 November 2015 (UTC)		: The irony is that the possibly misused Bimonthly (Semimonthly, twice a month) is ''almost'' the same as Biweekly (in the sense of every two weeks). And indistinguishable, most of the time, from each othet, going just by two adjacent events... Or so it appears to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.153.29\|162.158.153.29]] 22:33, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Could it be possible that the idea of the usage of the word "sesqui-" came from "Sesquilinear form", a generalizaton of biliear form, used for example to define the innner product in hilbert spaces? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sesquilinear_form for more info. I think that this could be a possibility, based on the author background.

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 :Confusing? Blame the Romans. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.84|108.162.246.84]] 23:38, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 ::I agree with you; however, Merriam-Webster does not. The dictionary definition for "biannual" lists both "twice a year" and "every two years", listing "biennial" as a synonym. This is the problem with descriptive languages: if enough idiots use a word wrong, it becomes right.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.56.221|162.158.56.221]] 00:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
+:::Tell those aforementioned idiots that we're going to ''decimate'' them, for their crimes against language...  We won't actually have to work as hard as they think we will, but they'll be living in fear of a disproportionate degree of vengeance, at least until they get the message. ;) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.161|141.101.106.161]] 00:33, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 ''"Regarding the title text, a {{w|tautology (rhetoric)|tautology}} is a statement that is true because of its logical form, such as "all birds are birds" or "A = A."'' Maybe {{w|tautology (grammar)|tautology in grammatical context}} is more appropriate here, since the comic is linguistics-themed: ''"In grammar, a tautology (from Greek tauto, "the same" and logos, "word/idea") is an unnecessary repetition of meaning, using more than one word effectively to say the same thing (...)"'' or ''"saying the same thing twice"'', as in the title text: ''(...) Tautology Club, which meets on the date of the Tautology Club meeting.''

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	"A common method of having meetings "on the first and third Monday of every month" is strictly twice-monthly but also mostly, and ironically, once every two weeks..." Can't see the irony. Is my brain derping or or am I now ''that'' person? --[[User:Kaay\|Kaay]] ([[User talk:Kaay\|talk]]) 09:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)		"A common method of having meetings "on the first and third Monday of every month" is strictly twice-monthly but also mostly, and ironically, once every two weeks..." Can't see the irony. Is my brain derping or or am I now ''that'' person? --[[User:Kaay\|Kaay]] ([[User talk:Kaay\|talk]]) 09:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
		+	: The irony is that the possibly misused Bimonthly (Semimonthly, twice a month) is ''almost'' the same as Biweekly (in the sense of every two weeks). And indistinguishable, most of the time, from each othet, going just by two adjacent events... Or so it appears to me... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.153.29\|162.158.153.29]] 22:33, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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 I wonder if the comic’s use of “sesquiannual” was also meant to be a reference to the word “sesquipedalian” (many-syllabled). My school’s literary club nicknamed themselves something like the “sesquipedalian word lovers’ club”, so that’s the word I immediately thought of when I read the comic. In fact, I didn’t know until now there were other words beginning with “sesqui-”. – [[User:Roryokane|RoryOKane]] ([[User talk:Roryokane|talk]]) 14:15, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 In case someone's interested, French has similar distinctions/confusions. Twice a year = biannuel, once every two years = biennal. With another option for the latter: bisannuel (same root as biannuel but the extra S changes the meaning). There are also two roots for 'month': twice a month = bimensuel, once every two months = bimestriel, although bimensuel is sometimes misused or misunderstood.
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 'Sesqui' means "one and a half" and 'annual' means "yearly".  But if the meeting is held (on average) every eight months, then there will be TWO meetings every second year — which flies in the face of the definition of 'sesquiannual'.  So you must hold 1 meeting and half of another meeting in a given calendar year.... and the only way to do that is, at the second meeting, go through approximately half of the order of business and then call to adjourn.  Reconvene the following year and complete the meeting from the point of adjournment. - [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 Not sure if anyone noticed... But I think we all just got nerd sniped. [[User:Bon|Bon]] ([[User talk:Bon|talk]]) 06:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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	Just undone a change that re-ascribed 'sesquibicentennial' to meaning 300 years, probably under the impression that it's "1.5 x 200 years", rather than "(0.5+2) hundred years" or 250 of them. (Seriously, "sesqui-" is functionally "a half and..." so is only "1.5x" when added to a unity-based prefix that makes it "a-half-and-one times <foo>". Also, 300 years is already termed a tricentennial and needs no more complicated construction.) One example of it being used: http://www.sacomaine.org/saco250.shtml - but there's probably something more definitive. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.161\|141.101.106.161]] 07:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)		Just undone a change that re-ascribed 'sesquibicentennial' to meaning 300 years, probably under the impression that it's "1.5 x 200 years", rather than "(0.5+2) hundred years" or 250 of them. (Seriously, "sesqui-" is functionally "a half and..." so is only "1.5x" when added to a unity-based prefix that makes it "a-half-and-one times <foo>". Also, 300 years is already termed a tricentennial and needs no more complicated construction.) One example of it being used: http://www.sacomaine.org/saco250.shtml - but there's probably something more definitive. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.161\|141.101.106.161]] 07:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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		+	"A common method of having meetings "on the first and third Monday of every month" is strictly twice-monthly but also mostly, and ironically, once every two weeks..." Can't see the irony. Is my brain derping or or am I now ''that'' person? --[[User:Kaay\|Kaay]] ([[User talk:Kaay\|talk]]) 09:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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	Not sure if anyone noticed... But I think we all just got nerd sniped. [[User:Bon\|Bon]] ([[User talk:Bon\|talk]]) 06:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)		Not sure if anyone noticed... But I think we all just got nerd sniped. [[User:Bon\|Bon]] ([[User talk:Bon\|talk]]) 06:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Just undone a change that re-ascribed 'sesquibicentennial' to meaning 300 years, probably under the impression that it's "1.5 x 200 years", rather than "(0.5+2) hundred years" or 250 of them. (Seriously, "sesqui-" is functionally "a half and..." so is only "1.5x" when added to a unity-based prefix that makes it "a-half-and-one times <foo>". Also, 300 years is already termed a tricentennial and needs no more complicated construction.) One example of it being used: http://www.sacomaine.org/saco250.shtml - but there's probably something more definitive. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.106.161\|141.101.106.161]] 07:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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	'Sesqui' means "one and a half" and 'annual' means "yearly". But if the meeting is held (on average) every eight months, then there will be TWO meetings every second year — which flies in the face of the definition of 'sesquiannual'. So you must hold 1 meeting and half of another meeting in a given calendar year.... and the only way to do that is, at the second meeting, go through approximately half of the order of business and then call to adjourn. Reconvene the following year and complete the meeting from the point of adjournment. - [[User:RAGBRAIvet\|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet\|talk]]) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)		'Sesqui' means "one and a half" and 'annual' means "yearly". But if the meeting is held (on average) every eight months, then there will be TWO meetings every second year — which flies in the face of the definition of 'sesquiannual'. So you must hold 1 meeting and half of another meeting in a given calendar year.... and the only way to do that is, at the second meeting, go through approximately half of the order of business and then call to adjourn. Reconvene the following year and complete the meeting from the point of adjournment. - [[User:RAGBRAIvet\|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet\|talk]]) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Not sure if anyone noticed... But I think we all just got nerd sniped. [[User:Bon\|Bon]] ([[User talk:Bon\|talk]]) 06:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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−	'Sesqui' means "one and a half" and 'annual' means "yearly". But if the meeting is held (on average) every eight months, then there will be TWO meetings every second year — which flies in the face of the definition of 'sesquiannual'. So you must hold 1 meeting and half of another meeting in a given calendar year.... and the only way to do that is, at the second meeting, go through approximately half of the order of business and then call to adjourn. Reconvene the following year and complete the meeting from the point of adjournment.[[User:RAGBRAIvet\|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet\|talk]]) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)	+	'Sesqui' means "one and a half" and 'annual' means "yearly". But if the meeting is held (on average) every eight months, then there will be TWO meetings every second year — which flies in the face of the definition of 'sesquiannual'. So you must hold 1 meeting and half of another meeting in a given calendar year.... and the only way to do that is, at the second meeting, go through approximately half of the order of business and then call to adjourn. Reconvene the following year and complete the meeting from the point of adjournment. - [[User:RAGBRAIvet\|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet\|talk]]) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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−	'Sesqui' means "one and a half" and 'annual' means "yearly". But if the meeting is held (on average) every eight months, then there will be TWO meetings every second year — which flies in the face of the definition of 'sesquiannual'. So you must hold 1 meeting and half of another meeting in a given calendar year.... and the only way to do that is, at the second meeting, go through approximately half of the order of business and then call to adjourn. Reconvene the following year and complete the meeting from the point of adjournment.	+	'Sesqui' means "one and a half" and 'annual' means "yearly". But if the meeting is held (on average) every eight months, then there will be TWO meetings every second year — which flies in the face of the definition of 'sesquiannual'. So you must hold 1 meeting and half of another meeting in a given calendar year.... and the only way to do that is, at the second meeting, go through approximately half of the order of business and then call to adjourn. Reconvene the following year and complete the meeting from the point of adjournment.[[User:RAGBRAIvet\|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet\|talk]]) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)