Talk:1613: The Three Laws of Robotics - Revision history

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172.70.206.231 at 04:28, 18 November 2024

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-The correct (but not necessarily true) answer to the mouseover text is 20 minutes [[Special:Contributions/172.70.206.231|172.70.206.231]] 04:28, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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+[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Relevant Computerphile] {{unsigned ip|141.101.84.114|08:55, 7 December 2015}}
 I think the second one would also create the "best" robots i.e. ones that have the same level of "free will" as humans do, but won't end up with the robot uprising. X3[[User:International Space Station|International Space Station]] ([[User talk:International Space Station|talk]]) 09:37, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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 Worth noting is that "Killbot hellscape" overlaps 1-to-1 with ordering obedience higher than not harming humans. In other words, evil humans are 100% to blame. [[User:Kapten-N|Kapten-N]] ([[User talk:Kapten-N|talk]]) 07:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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	The webcomic Freefall at freefall.purrsia.com demonstrates this as well,since robots can find ways to get around these restrictions. It also points out that if a human ordered a robot to kill all members of a species, they would have to do it, whether they wanted to or not, because it doesn't violate any of the three laws of robotics. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.48\|108.162.238.48]] 03:32, 18 November 2016 (UTC)		The webcomic Freefall at freefall.purrsia.com demonstrates this as well,since robots can find ways to get around these restrictions. It also points out that if a human ordered a robot to kill all members of a species, they would have to do it, whether they wanted to or not, because it doesn't violate any of the three laws of robotics. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.48\|108.162.238.48]] 03:32, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Worth noting is that "Killbot hellscape" overlaps 1-to-1 with ordering obedience higher than not harming humans. In other words, evil humans are 100% to blame. [[User:Kapten-N\|Kapten-N]] ([[User talk:Kapten-N\|talk]]) 07:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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 . A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
 [[User:Tarlbot|Tarlbot]] ([[User talk:Tarlbot|talk]]) 00:28, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 Should it be mentioned that the 3 laws wouldn't work in real life? as explained by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Computerphile]? [[User:SirKitKat|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat|talk]]) 10:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 The webcomic Freefall at freefall.purrsia.com demonstrates this as well,since robots can find ways to get around these restrictions. It also points out that if a human ordered a robot to kill all members of a species, they would have to do it, whether they wanted to or not, because it doesn't violate any of the three laws of robotics. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.48|108.162.238.48]] 03:32, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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	Should it be mentioned that the 3 laws wouldn't work in real life? as explained by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Computerphile]? [[User:SirKitKat\|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat\|talk]]) 10:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)		Should it be mentioned that the 3 laws wouldn't work in real life? as explained by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Computerphile]? [[User:SirKitKat\|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat\|talk]]) 10:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
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		+	The webcomic Freefall at freefall.purrsia.com demonstrates this as well,since robots can find ways to get around these restrictions. It also points out that if a human ordered a robot to kill all members of a species, they would have to do it, whether they wanted to or not, because it doesn't violate any of the three laws of robotics. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.48\|108.162.238.48]] 03:32, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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	: Technically his current chassis is a military version of a civilian model. That said the AI in Questionable Content aren't constrained by anything like the Three Laws. -Pennpenn [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.162\|108.162.250.162]] 22:51, 8 December 2015 (UTC)		: Technically his current chassis is a military version of a civilian model. That said the AI in Questionable Content aren't constrained by anything like the Three Laws. -Pennpenn [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.162\|108.162.250.162]] 22:51, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

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		+	0. A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
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	Should it be mentioned that the 3 laws wouldn't work in real life? as explained by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Computerphile]? [[User:SirKitKat\|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat\|talk]]) 10:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)		Should it be mentioned that the 3 laws wouldn't work in real life? as explained by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Computerphile]? [[User:SirKitKat\|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat\|talk]]) 10:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

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	I just wanted to mention that I thought the righthand robot in the Hellscape images quite resembles Pintsize from the [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=707 Questionable Content] webcomic. His character suits participation in a robot war quite likely too. [[User:Teleksterling\|Teleksterling]] ([[User talk:Teleksterling\|talk]]) 22:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)		I just wanted to mention that I thought the righthand robot in the Hellscape images quite resembles Pintsize from the [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=707 Questionable Content] webcomic. His character suits participation in a robot war quite likely too. [[User:Teleksterling\|Teleksterling]] ([[User talk:Teleksterling\|talk]]) 22:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
		+	: Technically his current chassis is a military version of a civilian model. That said the AI in Questionable Content aren't constrained by anything like the Three Laws. -Pennpenn [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.162\|108.162.250.162]] 22:51, 8 December 2015 (UTC)


	Should it be mentioned that the 3 laws wouldn't work in real life? as explained by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Computerphile]? [[User:SirKitKat\|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat\|talk]]) 10:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)		Should it be mentioned that the 3 laws wouldn't work in real life? as explained by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A Computerphile]? [[User:SirKitKat\|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat\|talk]]) 10:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

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	I just wanted to mention that I thought the righthand robot in the Hellscape images quite resembles Pintsize from the [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=707 Questionable Content] webcomic. His character suits participation in a robot war quite likely too. [[User:Teleksterling\|Teleksterling]] ([[User talk:Teleksterling\|talk]]) 22:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)		I just wanted to mention that I thought the righthand robot in the Hellscape images quite resembles Pintsize from the [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=707 Questionable Content] webcomic. His character suits participation in a robot war quite likely too. [[User:Teleksterling\|Teleksterling]] ([[User talk:Teleksterling\|talk]]) 22:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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	It's interesting to note that the 5th combination ("Terrifying Standoff") essentially describes robots whose priorities are ordered the same way as most humans'. Like humans, they will become dangerous if they feel endangered themselves. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.66\|173.245.54.66]] 20:10, 7 December 2015 (UTC)		It's interesting to note that the 5th combination ("Terrifying Standoff") essentially describes robots whose priorities are ordered the same way as most humans'. Like humans, they will become dangerous if they feel endangered themselves. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.66\|173.245.54.66]] 20:10, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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		+	I just wanted to mention that I thought the righthand robot in the Hellscape images quite resembles Pintsize from the [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=707 Questionable Content] webcomic. His character suits participation in a robot war quite likely too. [[User:Teleksterling\|Teleksterling]] ([[User talk:Teleksterling\|talk]]) 22:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

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 I'm wondering about the title text: why would a driverless car kill its passenger before going into a dealership?13:43, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 : A driverless car would feel threatened by a trip to a car dealership. The owner would presumably be contemplating a trade-in, which could lead to a visit to the junk yard. [[User:Erickhagstrom|Erickhagstrom]] ([[User talk:Erickhagstrom|talk]]) 14:28, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 : This looks like a reference to "2001: A Space Odyssey", where HAL tries to kill Dave by locking the pod bay doors after finding out he will be shut down.