Talk:1671: Arcane Bullshit - Revision history

An user who has no account yet at 13:39, 5 September 2023

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An user who has no account yet at 13:38, 5 September 2023

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108.162.245.65: comment

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108.162.216.18 at 20:10, 29 November 2019

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NiceGuy1 at 09:49, 9 June 2017

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Lackadaisical at 13:39, 14 May 2016

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108.162.218.47 at 03:58, 27 April 2016

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162.158.202.142 at 20:42, 26 April 2016

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Davidy22 at 03:53, 25 April 2016

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162.158.255.163 at 18:27, 24 April 2016

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	Honestly the first connection i made with "wade" and the 80s was ready player 1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.65\|108.162.245.65]] 16:47, 2 December 2021 (UTC)		Honestly the first connection i made with "wade" and the 80s was ready player 1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.65\|108.162.245.65]] 16:47, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

−	me too [[User:An user who has no account yet\|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet\|talk]]) 13:38, 5 September 2023 (UTC)	+	me too
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		+	edit: i had to try twice because i forgot there was a captcha :( [[User:An user who has no account yet\|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet\|talk]]) 13:38, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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	I believe this is the last comic to use this much profanity. Correct me if I'm wrong.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.18\|108.162.216.18]] 20:10, 29 November 2019 (UTC)		I believe this is the last comic to use this much profanity. Correct me if I'm wrong.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.18\|108.162.216.18]] 20:10, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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	This is a one panel comic. The explanation should not be thi long. [[User:Lackadaisical\|Lackadaisical]] ([[User talk:Lackadaisical\|talk]]) 13:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)		This is a one panel comic. The explanation should not be thi long. [[User:Lackadaisical\|Lackadaisical]] ([[User talk:Lackadaisical\|talk]]) 13:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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		+	I believe this is the last comic to use this much profanity. Correct me if I'm wrong.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.18\|108.162.216.18]] 20:10, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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 So, as someone who's taken like one course on Python ever, I'd like to offer my perspective on what I think your average "dumb person" wants to know. It's not the details of how programming in the 40's worked - all that does is reinforce the fact that it's "Arcane Bullshit", which is pretty obvious because every language is pretty close to arcane bullshit. It's more about why it's funny (or possible) to get break more things with a better understanding of code. The current explanation provides about two sentences on that - which helps ("okay, so you wouldn't even try if you're not familiar"), but I still feel like I'm missing something. Is it a programmer trope that people try to fix things and blow things up (like in XKCD 349)? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.163|162.158.255.163]] 18:27, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
-: Not REALLY, no. It's more that anyone who has programmed more than a little can quickly see how long and complex programs can get, especially if it was good enough and functional enough to still be around 30 years later to be getting such an update. Then, looking through the code like this, unless you programmed it in the first place, you likely would have to learn both the language AND this particular code at the same time. It's a monumental task that even an experienced and talented programmer could easily miss something (or get something wrong), at which point Murphy's Law takes over and makes sure the mistake turns out to be a doozy. :) Sometimes I've looked at programs i wrote myself 25 years ago, and it looks completely foreign to me, even though I wrote it myself, alone! - Niceguy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.47|108.162.218.47]] 03:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
+: Not REALLY, no. It's more that anyone who has programmed more than a little can quickly see how long and complex programs can get, especially if it was good enough and functional enough to still be around 30 years later to be getting such an update. Then, looking through the code like this, unless you programmed it in the first place, you likely would have to learn both the language AND this particular code at the same time. It's a monumental task that even an experienced and talented programmer could easily miss something (or get something wrong), at which point Murphy's Law takes over and makes sure the mistake turns out to be a doozy. :) Sometimes I've looked at programs i wrote myself 25 years ago, and it looks completely foreign to me, even though I wrote it myself, alone! - Niceguy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.47|108.162.218.47]] 03:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 09:49, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 As a bullshit programmer (55 years, FORTRAN) who loathes Java with a vengeance I'd like to point out that OOP merely relocated the bullshit to the classes interplay. Any program that doesn't have to navigate a rocket to the moon or suchlike I could write in FORTRAN with 10% of code and time.

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	As a bullshit programmer (55 years, FORTRAN) who loathes Java with a vengeance I'd like to point out that OOP merely relocated the bullshit to the classes interplay. Any program that doesn't have to navigate a rocket to the moon or suchlike I could write in FORTRAN with 10% of code and time.		As a bullshit programmer (55 years, FORTRAN) who loathes Java with a vengeance I'd like to point out that OOP merely relocated the bullshit to the classes interplay. Any program that doesn't have to navigate a rocket to the moon or suchlike I could write in FORTRAN with 10% of code and time.
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		+	This is a one panel comic. The explanation should not be thi long. [[User:Lackadaisical\|Lackadaisical]] ([[User talk:Lackadaisical\|talk]]) 13:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

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	So, as someone who's taken like one course on Python ever, I'd like to offer my perspective on what I think your average "dumb person" wants to know. It's not the details of how programming in the 40's worked - all that does is reinforce the fact that it's "Arcane Bullshit", which is pretty obvious because every language is pretty close to arcane bullshit. It's more about why it's funny (or possible) to get break more things with a better understanding of code. The current explanation provides about two sentences on that - which helps ("okay, so you wouldn't even try if you're not familiar"), but I still feel like I'm missing something. Is it a programmer trope that people try to fix things and blow things up (like in XKCD 349)? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.163\|162.158.255.163]] 18:27, 24 April 2016 (UTC)		So, as someone who's taken like one course on Python ever, I'd like to offer my perspective on what I think your average "dumb person" wants to know. It's not the details of how programming in the 40's worked - all that does is reinforce the fact that it's "Arcane Bullshit", which is pretty obvious because every language is pretty close to arcane bullshit. It's more about why it's funny (or possible) to get break more things with a better understanding of code. The current explanation provides about two sentences on that - which helps ("okay, so you wouldn't even try if you're not familiar"), but I still feel like I'm missing something. Is it a programmer trope that people try to fix things and blow things up (like in XKCD 349)? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.163\|162.158.255.163]] 18:27, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
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		+	As a bullshit programmer (55 years, FORTRAN) who loathes Java with a vengeance I'd like to point out that OOP merely relocated the bullshit to the classes interplay. Any program that doesn't have to navigate a rocket to the moon or suchlike I could write in FORTRAN with 10% of code and time.
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 I was obsessively refreshing XKCD and the new comic popped up. Then I did the same on ExplainXKCD to make an explanation. Here's my first rough-draft attempt. [[User:Papayaman1000|Papayaman1000]] ([[User talk:Papayaman1000|talk]]) 13:34, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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 Since we all have limited time and money to deal with bullshit, we just keep using it. Decade [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.69|162.158.255.69]] 21:46, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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		+	So, as someone who's taken like one course on Python ever, I'd like to offer my perspective on what I think your average "dumb person" wants to know. It's not the details of how programming in the 40's worked - all that does is reinforce the fact that it's "Arcane Bullshit", which is pretty obvious because every language is pretty close to arcane bullshit. It's more about why it's funny (or possible) to get break more things with a better understanding of code. The current explanation provides about two sentences on that - which helps ("okay, so you wouldn't even try if you're not familiar"), but I still feel like I'm missing something. Is it a programmer trope that people try to fix things and blow things up (like in XKCD 349)? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.163\|162.158.255.163]] 18:27, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
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	I was obsessively refreshing XKCD and the new comic popped up. Then I did the same on ExplainXKCD to make an explanation. Here's my first rough-draft attempt. [[User:Papayaman1000\|Papayaman1000]] ([[User talk:Papayaman1000\|talk]]) 13:34, 22 April 2016 (UTC)		I was obsessively refreshing XKCD and the new comic popped up. Then I did the same on ExplainXKCD to make an explanation. Here's my first rough-draft attempt. [[User:Papayaman1000\|Papayaman1000]] ([[User talk:Papayaman1000\|talk]]) 13:34, 22 April 2016 (UTC)