Talk:1739: Fixing Problems - Revision history

Rtanenbaum: Bug fix rule.

2016-09-29T14:22:28Z

Bug fix rule.

Elektrizikekswerk at 07:31, 29 September 2016

2016-09-29T07:31:06Z

162.158.75.100 at 21:17, 28 September 2016

2016-09-28T21:17:47Z

Murray at 19:31, 28 September 2016

2016-09-28T19:31:12Z

Kynde at 19:22, 28 September 2016

2016-09-28T19:22:17Z

162.158.222.227 at 17:55, 28 September 2016

2016-09-28T17:55:15Z

108.162.216.78 at 17:51, 28 September 2016

2016-09-28T17:51:51Z

108.162.216.78 at 17:50, 28 September 2016

2016-09-28T17:50:42Z

162.158.86.233 at 14:34, 28 September 2016

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162.158.74.30 at 13:47, 28 September 2016

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	:What? --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 19:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)		:What? --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 19:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
	::This is part of a nursery rhyme that indicates an old woman swallowed a fly, so as a fix, she swallowed a spider. This creates a situation that is also (and possibly more) intolerable, so she needs to fix that as well. This is similar to the recursive nature of the original comic. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Was_an_Old_Lady_Who_Swallowed_a_Fly] [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.100\|162.158.75.100]] 21:17, 28 September 2016 (UTC)		::This is part of a nursery rhyme that indicates an old woman swallowed a fly, so as a fix, she swallowed a spider. This creates a situation that is also (and possibly more) intolerable, so she needs to fix that as well. This is similar to the recursive nature of the original comic. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Was_an_Old_Lady_Who_Swallowed_a_Fly] [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.100\|162.158.75.100]] 21:17, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Many years ago I coined the adage, "The bug I fix today introduces two more to be fixed tomorrow." [[User:Rtanenbaum\|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum\|talk]]) 14:22, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

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 : 2. Depending on time constraints for a given task "wasting my time" (as in the title text) could be the definition of a software being "broken". So fixing a problem which causes "time wasted" is not necessarily fixing something which isn't broken. The solution for inefficient software is _not_ more hardware ;) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 07:32, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 :Please feel free to improve then! --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 Possibly related to http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2016/Sep/65? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.30|162.158.74.30]] 13:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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	:What? --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 19:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)		:What? --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 19:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
		+	::This is part of a nursery rhyme that indicates an old woman swallowed a fly, so as a fix, she swallowed a spider. This creates a situation that is also (and possibly more) intolerable, so she needs to fix that as well. This is similar to the recursive nature of the original comic. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Was_an_Old_Lady_Who_Swallowed_a_Fly] [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.100\|162.158.75.100]] 21:17, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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 I put in a mention of the fixed-point combinator. It seems like that can hardly be an accidental pun since it's the essence of recursion. I forgot to put in a summary of the change. [[User:Murray|Murray]] ([[User talk:Murray|talk]]) 07:19, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
-: The interpretation of the title as pun seems far-fetched to me. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.233|162.158.86.233]] 14:34, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
+: The interpretation of the title as pun seems far-fetched to me. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.233|162.158.86.233]] 14:34, 28 September 2016 (UTC)F
 I disagree with some points of the current explanation. Most important one: "This comic is clearly remarking upon whether or not the benefits of the mentality "If it ain't broke, break it and fix it" [...]":

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 This one seems relatively straightforward. It points out the rabbit hole that comes from attempting to optimize and attempting to fix earlier mistakes. {{unsigned|Drewthedude64}}
+:I agree. I added my explanation as such, and as I was doing it, I noticed that this comic seems to repeat the themes shown in past ones. {{unsigned ip|108.162.219.60}}
 I want to build a web browser from scratch so I can load web pages on my iPod quicker.
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 : 1. Words like "clearly" shouldn't be used in a wiki, since they're suggesting that whoever has another point of view is an idiot. But that's not the important part.
 : 2. Depending on time constraints for a given task "wasting my time" (as in the title text) could be the definition of a software being "broken". So fixing a problem which causes "time wasted" is not necessarily fixing something which isn't broken. The solution for inefficient software is _not_ more hardware ;) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 07:32, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 Possibly related to http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2016/Sep/65? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.30|162.158.74.30]] 13:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 I'm surprised no one has mentioned xkcd.com/1205[https://xkcd.com/1205/] yet...--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.78|108.162.216.78]] 17:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 There was an old lady who swallowed a fly … [[Special:Contributions/162.158.222.227|162.158.222.227]] 17:55, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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	I'm surprised no one has mentioned xkcd.com/1205[https://xkcd.com/1205/] yet...--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.78\|108.162.216.78]] 17:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)		I'm surprised no one has mentioned xkcd.com/1205[https://xkcd.com/1205/] yet...--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.78\|108.162.216.78]] 17:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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−	I'm surprised no one has mentioned [https://xkcd.com/1205/] yet...--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.78\|108.162.216.78]] 17:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)	+	I'm surprised no one has mentioned xkcd.com/1205[https://xkcd.com/1205/] yet...--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.78\|108.162.216.78]] 17:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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		+	I'm surprised no one has mentioned [https://xkcd.com/1205/] yet...--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.78\|108.162.216.78]] 17:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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	I put in a mention of the fixed-point combinator. It seems like that can hardly be an accidental pun since it's the essence of recursion. I forgot to put in a summary of the change. [[User:Murray\|Murray]] ([[User talk:Murray\|talk]]) 07:19, 28 September 2016 (UTC)		I put in a mention of the fixed-point combinator. It seems like that can hardly be an accidental pun since it's the essence of recursion. I forgot to put in a summary of the change. [[User:Murray\|Murray]] ([[User talk:Murray\|talk]]) 07:19, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
		+	: The interpretation of the title as pun seems far-fetched to me. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.233\|162.158.86.233]] 14:34, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

	I disagree with some points of the current explanation. Most important one: "This comic is clearly remarking upon whether or not the benefits of the mentality "If it ain't broke, break it and fix it" [...]":		I disagree with some points of the current explanation. Most important one: "This comic is clearly remarking upon whether or not the benefits of the mentality "If it ain't broke, break it and fix it" [...]":

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	: 1. Words like "clearly" shouldn't be used in a wiki, since they're suggesting that whoever has another point of view is an idiot. But that's not the important part.		: 1. Words like "clearly" shouldn't be used in a wiki, since they're suggesting that whoever has another point of view is an idiot. But that's not the important part.
	: 2. Depending on time constraints for a given task "wasting my time" (as in the title text) could be the definition of a software being "broken". So fixing a problem which causes "time wasted" is not necessarily fixing something which isn't broken. The solution for inefficient software is _not_ more hardware ;) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 07:32, 28 September 2016 (UTC)		: 2. Depending on time constraints for a given task "wasting my time" (as in the title text) could be the definition of a software being "broken". So fixing a problem which causes "time wasted" is not necessarily fixing something which isn't broken. The solution for inefficient software is _not_ more hardware ;) [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 07:32, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Possibly related to http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2016/Sep/65? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.30\|162.158.74.30]] 13:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)