Talk:1793: Soda Sugar Comparisons - Revision history

Nitpicking: Fructose

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Fructose

NiceGuy1 at 04:03, 13 June 2017

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Davidy22 at 23:06, 12 February 2017

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162.158.79.83 at 02:19, 11 February 2017

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162.158.126.76 at 05:18, 8 February 2017

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141.101.104.203: Added comment about type of sugar

2017-02-05T07:39:36Z

Added comment about type of sugar

Schroduck: Reply

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Cardboardmech at 04:27, 3 February 2017

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Cardboardmech at 04:26, 3 February 2017

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162.158.62.159: Correcting mistakes

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Correcting mistakes

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	::Not all sugars are created equal nor do they have the same effect on the body. Are we talking about sucrose, high corn fructose syrup or something else? The number of calories may be the same, but the body can dispose of glucose much more effectively than fructose. -- No'am		::Not all sugars are created equal nor do they have the same effect on the body. Are we talking about sucrose, high corn fructose syrup or something else? The number of calories may be the same, but the body can dispose of glucose much more effectively than fructose. -- No'am
		+	::This turns out not to be the case. Your body contains enzymes which very efficiently convert fructose into glucose. Sucrose, in your gut, is cleaved into a glucose and a fructose, and then the fructose further converted into glucose as well. Fructose can cause a "rumbly tummy" (for the FODMAP-sensitive) because before it gets absorbed, gut bacteria may consume it and do wacky stuff, but in your bloodstream it's all just glucose rather quickly. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 12:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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 :Thanks! I did a bit of digging, and updated the data. It looks like it significantly overestimates the sugar (''if'' the display only holds chocolate/candy and not, say, sugar-free gum). [[User:Schroduck|Schroduck]] ([[User talk:Schroduck|talk]]) 11:56, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 :: Maybe this is an English term? But I would have thought that a candy counter was for regular candy to fill in bags for instance and not only Mars bar type of candy if any such chocolate bars would be there at all?--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
-::: Seeing as Randall refers to it as a "Convenience Store Counter", I understand it to mean a standard convenience store counter, LOL! Which would usually have one or two registers, depending on the size of the store. Which is to say, from the counter holding the registers down to the floor are boxes of every kind of chocolate bar they care to stock, plus gum and at times even said Creme Eggs. Bars such as Snickers, Mounds, Coffee Crisp, O Henry, Mr. Big, etc. etc. A counter this size would have to have every candy bar sold in North America, and some multiple times, in order to fill it. That said, it seems wrong to assume Mars bars. Not only do they have a more compact size - meaning more can fit - the only bar mentioned is Snickers, if any one bar is chosen it should be Snickers. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
+::: Seeing as Randall refers to it as a "Convenience Store Counter", I understand it to mean a standard convenience store counter, LOL! Which would usually have one or two registers, depending on the size of the store. Which is to say, from the counter holding the registers down to the floor are boxes of every kind of chocolate bar they care to stock, plus gum and at times even said Creme Eggs. Bars such as Snickers, Mounds, Coffee Crisp, O Henry, Mr. Big, etc. etc. A counter this size would have to have every candy bar sold in North America, and some multiple times, in order to fill it. That said, it seems wrong to assume Mars bars. Not only do they have a more compact size - meaning more can fit - the only bar mentioned is Snickers, if any one bar is chosen it should be Snickers. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
-::: This thing (though this one seems filled with gum): http://www.discountshelving.com/images/storetype/convenience/Gondola-Check-Out-Slanted-Shelves.jpg - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
+::: This thing (though this one seems filled with gum): http://www.discountshelving.com/images/storetype/convenience/Gondola-Check-Out-Slanted-Shelves.jpg - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC) So's this! [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 ::::The sugar content of candy doesn't massively vary from one brand to another. They are all essentially sugar (even {{w|Tic Tacs}}, which are advertised as "sugar free" are 95% sugar!), with starches and oils for texture, and trace amounts of flavouring and colour. I chose Mars bars because that was the first to come up on a search, but it wouldn't make much difference which you chose. Gums would be an exception, but then you're not meant to eat gum, so it surely shouldn't count for this purpose. [[User:Schroduck|Schroduck]] ([[User talk:Schroduck|talk]]) 15:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
-::::: You're right in that content is roughly equal from bar to bar, EXCEPT, as I stated, Mars bars are smaller than the average, both meaning that more would fit (especially in a counter this size) - meaning more boxes, meaning more sugar - and their smaller size means that they may ACTUALLY have a lower content - meaning slightly lower sugar, but at this volume it adds up. Now, as these two aspects affect the final result in opposite ways, they MAY cancel out, but that can't be certain without crunching the numbers (which I am not in the mood or availability to do right now, LOL! Thank you for your devotion). Just saying, if you pick ONE bar - which is reasonable considering how much it would complicate matters to virtually "build" a realistically varied counter - the one named, Snickers, should be the first choice. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.76|162.158.126.76]] 05:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
+::::: You're right in that content is roughly equal from bar to bar, EXCEPT, as I stated, Mars bars are smaller than the average, both meaning that more would fit (especially in a counter this size) - meaning more boxes, meaning more sugar - and their smaller size means that they may ACTUALLY have a lower content - meaning slightly lower sugar, but at this volume it adds up. Now, as these two aspects affect the final result in opposite ways, they MAY cancel out, but that can't be certain without crunching the numbers (which I am not in the mood or availability to do right now, LOL! Thank you for your devotion). Just saying, if you pick ONE bar - which is reasonable considering how much it would complicate matters to virtually "build" a realistically varied counter - the one named, Snickers, should be the first choice. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.76|162.158.126.76]] 05:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC) Also my comment! [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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 The page mentions "Crème eggs." While this is a common autocorrect, Cadbury don't use this on their packaging. Confusingly, this appears to be the case in the USA as well, even though Hershey on its website uses it. Can someone find a citation to confirm or deny that this this is ever the correct spelling? Also, don't drink soda. Really. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.18|141.101.107.18]] 13:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
-: You're referring to the accent, right? Even if Cadbury doesn't use the accent on the packaging (they don't, you're right), "Crème" is the correct spelling. This is a french word - the English would be "Cream", of course - and the french spelling includes the accent. Which is what makes it a frequent autocorrect, people will often skip the accent due to the difficulty of entering it, having the autocorrect provide it can be actually useful. (LOTS of french where I live, I see stuff like this a lot, LOL!). - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
+: You're referring to the accent, right? Even if Cadbury doesn't use the accent on the packaging (they don't, you're right), "Crème" is the correct spelling. This is a french word - the English would be "Cream", of course - and the french spelling includes the accent. Which is what makes it a frequent autocorrect, people will often skip the accent due to the difficulty of entering it, having the autocorrect provide it can be actually useful. (LOTS of french where I live, I see stuff like this a lot, LOL!). - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 I don't like how he compares the consumption of soda at a constant rate over a period of time to a grand total of candy. This could be reversed, e.g. eating 100ml of skittles a day for six months is the same as drinking 180 bottles of soda, to make it seem as though candy contains a lot of sugar in comparison to soda rather than vice versa. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.239|141.101.99.239]] 14:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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 That box at the right end of the candy counter probably contains waxed paper or bags for loose candy.
 [[User:The Dining Logician|The Dining Logician]] ([[User talk:The Dining Logician|talk]]) 21:05, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
-: I have NEVER seen a convenience store provide wax paper or candy bags, partially because I've never seen one sell loose candy, LOL! Only pre-packaged / wrapped chocolate bars, like the named Snickers or Mars bars. i've only seen such things in the rare candy store I've been in. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
+: I have NEVER seen a convenience store provide wax paper or candy bags, partially because I've never seen one sell loose candy, LOL! Only pre-packaged / wrapped chocolate bars, like the named Snickers or Mars bars. i've only seen such things in the rare candy store I've been in. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 ::Not all sugars are created equal nor do they have the same effect on the body. Are we talking about sucrose, high corn fructose syrup or something else? The number of calories may be the same, but the body can dispose of glucose much more effectively than fructose.  -- No'am
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	::: This thing (though this one seems filled with gum): http://www.discountshelving.com/images/storetype/convenience/Gondola-Check-Out-Slanted-Shelves.jpg - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)		::: This thing (though this one seems filled with gum): http://www.discountshelving.com/images/storetype/convenience/Gondola-Check-Out-Slanted-Shelves.jpg - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
	::::The sugar content of candy doesn't massively vary from one brand to another. They are all essentially sugar (even {{w\|Tic Tacs}}, which are advertised as "sugar free" are 95% sugar!), with starches and oils for texture, and trace amounts of flavouring and colour. I chose Mars bars because that was the first to come up on a search, but it wouldn't make much difference which you chose. Gums would be an exception, but then you're not meant to eat gum, so it surely shouldn't count for this purpose. [[User:Schroduck\|Schroduck]] ([[User talk:Schroduck\|talk]]) 15:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)		::::The sugar content of candy doesn't massively vary from one brand to another. They are all essentially sugar (even {{w\|Tic Tacs}}, which are advertised as "sugar free" are 95% sugar!), with starches and oils for texture, and trace amounts of flavouring and colour. I chose Mars bars because that was the first to come up on a search, but it wouldn't make much difference which you chose. Gums would be an exception, but then you're not meant to eat gum, so it surely shouldn't count for this purpose. [[User:Schroduck\|Schroduck]] ([[User talk:Schroduck\|talk]]) 15:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
		+	::::: You're right in that content is roughly equal from bar to bar, EXCEPT, as I stated, Mars bars are smaller than the average, both meaning that more would fit (especially in a counter this size) - meaning more boxes, meaning more sugar - and their smaller size means that they may ACTUALLY have a lower content - meaning slightly lower sugar, but at this volume it adds up. Now, as these two aspects affect the final result in opposite ways, they MAY cancel out, but that can't be certain without crunching the numbers (which I am not in the mood or availability to do right now, LOL! Thank you for your devotion). Just saying, if you pick ONE bar - which is reasonable considering how much it would complicate matters to virtually "build" a realistically varied counter - the one named, Snickers, should be the first choice. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.76\|162.158.126.76]] 05:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

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	: I have NEVER seen a convenience store provide wax paper or candy bags, partially because I've never seen one sell loose candy, LOL! Only pre-packaged / wrapped chocolate bars, like the named Snickers or Mars bars. i've only seen such things in the rare candy store I've been in. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)		: I have NEVER seen a convenience store provide wax paper or candy bags, partially because I've never seen one sell loose candy, LOL! Only pre-packaged / wrapped chocolate bars, like the named Snickers or Mars bars. i've only seen such things in the rare candy store I've been in. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
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	::: Seeing as Randall refers to it as a "Convenience Store Counter", I understand it to mean a standard convenience store counter, LOL! Which would usually have one or two registers, depending on the size of the store. Which is to say, from the counter holding the registers down to the floor are boxes of every kind of chocolate bar they care to stock, plus gum and at times even said Creme Eggs. Bars such as Snickers, Mounds, Coffee Crisp, O Henry, Mr. Big, etc. etc. A counter this size would have to have every candy bar sold in North America, and some multiple times, in order to fill it. That said, it seems wrong to assume Mars bars. Not only do they have a more compact size - meaning more can fit - the only bar mentioned is Snickers, if any one bar is chosen it should be Snickers. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)		::: Seeing as Randall refers to it as a "Convenience Store Counter", I understand it to mean a standard convenience store counter, LOL! Which would usually have one or two registers, depending on the size of the store. Which is to say, from the counter holding the registers down to the floor are boxes of every kind of chocolate bar they care to stock, plus gum and at times even said Creme Eggs. Bars such as Snickers, Mounds, Coffee Crisp, O Henry, Mr. Big, etc. etc. A counter this size would have to have every candy bar sold in North America, and some multiple times, in order to fill it. That said, it seems wrong to assume Mars bars. Not only do they have a more compact size - meaning more can fit - the only bar mentioned is Snickers, if any one bar is chosen it should be Snickers. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
	::: This thing (though this one seems filled with gum): http://www.discountshelving.com/images/storetype/convenience/Gondola-Check-Out-Slanted-Shelves.jpg - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)		::: This thing (though this one seems filled with gum): http://www.discountshelving.com/images/storetype/convenience/Gondola-Check-Out-Slanted-Shelves.jpg - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.159\|162.158.62.159]] 04:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
		+	::::The sugar content of candy doesn't massively vary from one brand to another. They are all essentially sugar (even {{w\|Tic Tacs}}, which are advertised as "sugar free" are 95% sugar!), with starches and oils for texture, and trace amounts of flavouring and colour. I chose Mars bars because that was the first to come up on a search, but it wouldn't make much difference which you chose. Gums would be an exception, but then you're not meant to eat gum, so it surely shouldn't count for this purpose. [[User:Schroduck\|Schroduck]] ([[User talk:Schroduck\|talk]]) 15:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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 ::::"Reason for sugar consumption" is like needing a motive for a sexually-based crime. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.219|162.158.74.219]] 18:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 :::::So you are saying that you do not need a motive before committing a sex crime! ;-p --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
-::::::''awaits increase in sex crimes'''' [[User:Cardboardmech|Cardboardmech]] ([[User talk:Cardboardmech|talk]]) 04:26, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
+::::::''awaits increase in sex crimes'' [[User:Cardboardmech|Cardboardmech]] ([[User talk:Cardboardmech|talk]]) 04:26, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 I never would have thought of it like that. xD --[[User:JayRulesXKCD|'''JayRules''XKCD'''  ]]<sup>[[User talk:JayRulesXKCD|what's up?]]</sup> 18:50, 2 February 2017 (UTC)