Talk:1894: Real Estate - Revision history

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	:: It also depends on the quality of pizza. I can get a large from Dominos (nation-wide chain) for 10 USD or from a local, family owned brick-oven place for 16 USD. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.153\|162.158.62.153]] 15:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)		:: It also depends on the quality of pizza. I can get a large from Dominos (nation-wide chain) for 10 USD or from a local, family owned brick-oven place for 16 USD. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.153\|162.158.62.153]] 15:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
	::: Also, assuming AUD means Australian Dollars, Randall is in the States, this would be American Dollars, what's the exchange rate? Here, in Canadian Dollars, I would estimate the average price from a restaurant - not frozen, not greaseball-mainly-sold-by-slice-for-broke-students - is about $18 or $19 for a large, which indeed would be in the vicinity of $15 American, perhaps rounded down to $15 for mathematical simplicity (which is the point of this anyway). [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:00, 29 September 2017 (UTC)		::: Also, assuming AUD means Australian Dollars, Randall is in the States, this would be American Dollars, what's the exchange rate? Here, in Canadian Dollars, I would estimate the average price from a restaurant - not frozen, not greaseball-mainly-sold-by-slice-for-broke-students - is about $18 or $19 for a large, which indeed would be in the vicinity of $15 American, perhaps rounded down to $15 for mathematical simplicity (which is the point of this anyway). [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:00, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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		+	I always converted large amounts of money into time and considered money I have as "stored work time". If I make $10/hour after taxes, and the Nintendo Switch is $300, then it costs 30 hours of work, 30 hours of my life no longer stored in U.S. currency, to get it. I decided I would make that trade. However, the average home price in my state is $230,000, which would be 2.6 years of nonstop work or 11 years of 9-5 work, which I cannot do right now. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.30.227\|172.71.30.227]]

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 :Rings completely true to this 41 year old[[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.32|162.158.155.32]] 14:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 ::And to this 33 year old [[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.106|162.158.202.106]] 19:51, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 :It highlights what basically becomes an enormous difference in number size when doing some of these financial transactions. Having owned a house for three years now, I ''still'' cannot fully conceptualise the amount of debt I'm in. Sure, I know the number, and I signed all the papers, but it's an order of magnitude more than buying a car, which is an order of magnitude more than buying a 4k UHD TV, which itself is one of those things you don't even do every year. Within that context, being able to properly appraise whether that 10k discount (and driveway repairs) are worth it is fairly difficult to do. I got a 6k discount for a roof job that needed to be done on the house, along with an estimate that coincidentally expired before closing, that ended up costing me 11k. I had nowhere near any experience to know if any of that was reasonable, and, quite frankly, I still don't think I would have if I did it again. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.141.64|172.68.141.64]] 18:17, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 ::It's not just about evaluating the numbers in themselves, though. It's the cognitive dissonance between on the one hand knowing that $10,000, in the abstract, is a large amount of money (it could make a significant difference to your life), and on the other, it being well within your margin of error in judging what a house is worth. The amounts being discussed are at the same time both meaningless and hugely meaningful.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.32|162.158.155.32]] 11:30, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

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 ::It's not just about evaluating the numbers in themselves, though. It's the cognitive dissonance between on the one hand knowing that $10,000, in the abstract, is a large amount of money (it could make a significant difference to your life), and on the other, it being well within your margin of error in judging what a house is worth. The amounts being discussed are at the same time both meaningless and hugely meaningful.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.32|162.158.155.32]] 11:30, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 : If you're correct as to his age, I'm a chunk older than him and I still identify with comics like this. I've never bought a house and am sure it would likewise overwhelm me, it would be difficult to grasp that I'm considering encurring such a large debt. I too sometimes don't feel like I'm an adult and am just faking, I spent so many years growing up knowing I wasn't an adult that once I became one it was difficult to grasp that this has "magically" changed. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 ::Well, he cracked the joke about Cueball drilling too many holes in his first own walls (xkcd no 905) six years ago. Don't know why, Dilbert certainly hasn't aged in decades, but it bothers me here. ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.121|162.158.89.121]] 08:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 ::: I think it's because Dilbert is completely fictional, based on things the author has experienced, while we KNOW Cueball is largely Randall, even if sometimes he's Randall's imagination coming out to play. :) Yes, Randall has made several references to not feeling like an adult (I think this explanation might have them all) but he's certainly not alone. Since I saw this comic I had a memory on Facebook. 4 people making declarations - "I have a car", "I like to clean", "I can cook" and "I have a Netflix password" - all holding their hands up with rings firing beams into the sky, last panel they're now one person, a la Captain Planet: "By your powers combined, I am... A fully functional adult!". I was instantly reminded of this comic, LOL! (I'd be the one who can cook, none of those others apply to me). And again, I'm notably older than Randall. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:00, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

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-That comic would've been funny ten years ago, but I'm not buying it from an author that is 33, sorry. Is Cueball supposed to be still in college? Is Munroe poking fun at fatuitous sophomores? Boring. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.121|162.158.89.121]] 12:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC) Cueball doesn't always represent Randall.[[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 08:16, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
+That comic would've been funny ten years ago, but I'm not buying it from an author that is 33, sorry. Is Cueball supposed to be still in college? Is Munroe poking fun at fatuitous sophomores? Boring. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.121|162.158.89.121]] 12:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 :I think Randall still feel confused about owning a home, and the prices. When buying for hundred of thousands dollars and then some one cuts 10.000 dollars of the price, that is not that much relative, but it would be a huge deal to save that much in any other situation. Is that then a good offer or nor?  As can be seen from my initial start of the explanation by just adding refs to three other comics, this is an issue Randall has returned to several times over the span of xkcd's lifetime. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:18, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 :Rings completely true to this 41 year old[[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.32|162.158.155.32]] 14:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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 ::And to this 33 year old [[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.106|162.158.202.106]] 19:51, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 :It highlights what basically becomes an enormous difference in number size when doing some of these financial transactions. Having owned a house for three years now, I ''still'' cannot fully conceptualise the amount of debt I'm in. Sure, I know the number, and I signed all the papers, but it's an order of magnitude more than buying a car, which is an order of magnitude more than buying a 4k UHD TV, which itself is one of those things you don't even do every year. Within that context, being able to properly appraise whether that 10k discount (and driveway repairs) are worth it is fairly difficult to do. I got a 6k discount for a roof job that needed to be done on the house, along with an estimate that coincidentally expired before closing, that ended up costing me 11k. I had nowhere near any experience to know if any of that was reasonable, and, quite frankly, I still don't think I would have if I did it again. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.141.64|172.68.141.64]] 18:17, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 : If you're correct as to his age, I'm a chunk older than him and I still identify with comics like this. I've never bought a house and am sure it would likewise overwhelm me, it would be difficult to grasp that I'm considering encurring such a large debt. I too sometimes don't feel like I'm an adult and am just faking, I spent so many years growing up knowing I wasn't an adult that once I became one it was difficult to grasp that this has "magically" changed. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 ::Well, he cracked the joke about Cueball drilling too many holes in his first own walls (xkcd no 905) six years ago. Don't know why, Dilbert certainly hasn't aged in decades, but it bothers me here. ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.121|162.158.89.121]] 08:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

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 : If you're correct as to his age, I'm a chunk older than him and I still identify with comics like this. I've never bought a house and am sure it would likewise overwhelm me, it would be difficult to grasp that I'm considering encurring such a large debt. I too sometimes don't feel like I'm an adult and am just faking, I spent so many years growing up knowing I wasn't an adult that once I became one it was difficult to grasp that this has "magically" changed. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 ::Well, he cracked the joke about Cueball drilling too many holes in his first own walls (xkcd no 905) six years ago. Don't know why, Dilbert certainly hasn't aged in decades, but it bothers me here. ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.121|162.158.89.121]] 08:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 So, what are driveaway repairs? How much value does it normally have? Sorry for being stupid.
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 : Depends on the definition of "large", but about 12-13 EUR for a ~32cm pizza seems reasonable to me. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 13:51, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 :: It also depends on the quality of pizza. I can get a large from Dominos (nation-wide chain) for 10 USD or from a local, family owned brick-oven place for 16 USD. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.153|162.158.62.153]] 15:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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	15 dollars is ALOT for pizza... given that frozen ones are only $5 and about double that for a store pizza and I am talking AUD here [[User:Needforsuv\|Needforsuv]] ([[User talk:Needforsuv\|talk]]) 11:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)		15 dollars is ALOT for pizza... given that frozen ones are only $5 and about double that for a store pizza and I am talking AUD here [[User:Needforsuv\|Needforsuv]] ([[User talk:Needforsuv\|talk]]) 11:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
	: Depends on the definition of "large", but about 12-13 EUR for a ~32cm pizza seems reasonable to me. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 13:51, 27 September 2017 (UTC)		: Depends on the definition of "large", but about 12-13 EUR for a ~32cm pizza seems reasonable to me. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 13:51, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
		+	:: It also depends on the quality of pizza. I can get a large from Dominos (nation-wide chain) for 10 USD or from a local, family owned brick-oven place for 16 USD. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.153\|162.158.62.153]] 15:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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	15 dollars is ALOT for pizza... given that frozen ones are only $5 and about double that for a store pizza and I am talking AUD here [[User:Needforsuv\|Needforsuv]] ([[User talk:Needforsuv\|talk]]) 11:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)		15 dollars is ALOT for pizza... given that frozen ones are only $5 and about double that for a store pizza and I am talking AUD here [[User:Needforsuv\|Needforsuv]] ([[User talk:Needforsuv\|talk]]) 11:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
−	: Depends on the definition of "large", but about 12 EUR for a ~32cm pizza seems reasonable to me. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 13:51, 27 September 2017 (UTC)	+	: Depends on the definition of "large", but about 12-13 EUR for a ~32cm pizza seems reasonable to me. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 13:51, 27 September 2017 (UTC)