Talk:1913: A ï¿½ - Revision history

Kynde: Moved dicsussion to A ?

2017-11-09T10:19:21Z

Moved dicsussion to A ?

141.101.105.198 at 09:53, 9 November 2017

2017-11-09T09:53:47Z

Derda17 at 07:05, 9 November 2017

2017-11-09T07:05:37Z

162.158.59.238: Lame joke about imaginary numbers

2017-11-09T05:46:21Z

Lame joke about imaginary numbers

Jedi.jesse at 05:28, 9 November 2017

2017-11-09T05:28:53Z

108.162.249.154 at 23:00, 8 November 2017

2017-11-08T23:00:58Z

Alanbbent at 22:35, 8 November 2017

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172.68.54.52 at 21:25, 8 November 2017

2017-11-08T21:25:36Z

Artyer at 21:03, 8 November 2017

2017-11-08T21:03:39Z

172.68.26.41: cooment

2017-11-08T19:15:12Z

cooment

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−	~~"no update can never" is logically equivalent to "any update can". Not sure if this is intentional.~~ [[~~Special:Contributions/162.158.106.60\|162.158.106.60]] 16:49, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
−	: Isn't it logically equivalent to "any update can ''sometimes''"? Linguistically, of course, it can be equivalent either to this, or to "no update can".[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.198\|141.101.105.198]] 16:59, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
−	:: I think it's actually equivalent to "ALL updates can" (because if even a single update could not, the statement would be false). [[User:Jedi.jesse\|Jedi.jesse]] ([[User talk:Jedi.jesse\|talk]]) 05:28, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
−	::: But "all updates can" could imply that only applying all updates would take it away. It also doesn't deal with the temporality - "no update can never" only implies that for each update there is a point in time when it could take it away, not necessarily that any update can always take it away, nor that there is any time at which all updates could take it away. Or to summarise, trying to reduce language to terms of logic is a fool's errand. ;o)[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.198\|141.101.105.198]] 09:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
−	~~: Or did Randall mean to type "no update can ever take this away" which makes more sense to me? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.76\|172.68.54.76]] 19:08, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
−	: Due to the linked Wikipedia article "some dialects of English are examples of negative-concord languages", i.e. double negatives intensifies eauch other. From my experience, it isn't only some dialects but most (of American English). Same Wikipedia article also states that negative-concord are more common. (we need more mathematicians in the world.) Imho, the relevant sentence on the comic page should be deleted or strongly modified, since it's common usage. [[User:Derda17\|Derda17]] ([[User talk:Derda17\|talk]]) 07:05, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
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−	Is this a comment on all those moral panics about 'the youth of today can't read or write because they're only learning to speak in emojis'? And/or about developers using 'undocumented features' in their applications, so that when they're fixed it breaks those applications?[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.198\|141.101.105.198]] 16:55, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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−	~~More like on how Randall appears to have strange habits. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.141.52\|172.68.141.52]] 16:59, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
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−	~~Hopefully somebody will make a full tutorial on how to accomplish the title text thing.~~
−	~~[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.241\|162.158.89.241]] 19:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
−	:I could do this easily on the computer with AutoHotKey (which might be overkill), but I'm not sure about iPhones, which are likely the target for the idea. iPhones have built-in text replacement, but I think you have to follow the word to be replaced with a ~spaaace~ for it to work, rather than it working instantly (as "mapping a key on your keyboard" implies). [[Special:~~Contributions/172.68.26.41\|172.68.26.41]] 19:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
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−	~~The correct url for this comic would be something like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD~~ 1913:~~_A_%EF%BF%BD], but that is an invalid title. It would still probably be better to change it to "~~A ?~~" with a note instead of "A_%C3%AF%C2%BF%C2%BD". —[[User:Artyer\|Artyer~~]] ~~<sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer\|talk]]<big>'''\|'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer\|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
−	~~: I suggest using ⍰ (U+2370) instead, as it better approximates the original iOS display. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.52\|172.68.54.52]] 21:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
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−	~~Interesting to note that the name of the posted image is i.png, which I guess DOES match the name of the comic? [[User:Alanbbent\|Alanbbent]] ([[User talk:Alanbbent\|talk]]) 22:35, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
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−	~~Perhaps, change the strange symbol to its HTML entity, � [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.154\|108.162.249.154]] 23:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)~~
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−	A lowercase i represents the square root of negative one, so let's just say that this comic is imaginary and resolve the problem that way :-)[[Special:Contributions/162.158.59.238\|162.158.59.238]] 05:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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 : Isn't it logically equivalent to "any update can ''sometimes''"? Linguistically, of course, it can be equivalent either to this, or to "no update can".[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.198|141.101.105.198]] 16:59, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 :: I think it's actually equivalent to "ALL updates can" (because if even a single update could not, the statement would be false). [[User:Jedi.jesse|Jedi.jesse]] ([[User talk:Jedi.jesse|talk]]) 05:28, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 : Or did Randall mean to type "no update can ever take this away" which makes more sense to me? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.76|172.68.54.76]] 19:08, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 : Due to the linked Wikipedia article "some dialects of English are examples of negative-concord languages", i.e. double negatives intensifies eauch other. From my experience, it isn't only some dialects but most (of American English). Same Wikipedia article also states that negative-concord are more common. (we need more mathematicians in the world.) Imho, the relevant sentence on the comic page should be deleted or strongly modified, since it's common usage. [[User:Derda17|Derda17]] ([[User talk:Derda17|talk]]) 07:05, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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 :: I think it's actually equivalent to "ALL updates can" (because if even a single update could not, the statement would be false). [[User:Jedi.jesse|Jedi.jesse]] ([[User talk:Jedi.jesse|talk]]) 05:28, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 : Or did Randall mean to type "no update can ever take this away" which makes more sense to me? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.76|172.68.54.76]] 19:08, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 Is this a comment on all those moral panics about 'the youth of today can't read or write because they're only learning to speak in emojis'?  And/or about developers using 'undocumented features' in their applications, so that when they're fixed it breaks those applications?[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.198|141.101.105.198]] 16:55, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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	Perhaps, change the strange symbol to its HTML entity, � [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.154\|108.162.249.154]] 23:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)		Perhaps, change the strange symbol to its HTML entity, � [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.154\|108.162.249.154]] 23:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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		+	A lowercase i represents the square root of negative one, so let's just say that this comic is imaginary and resolve the problem that way :-)[[Special:Contributions/162.158.59.238\|162.158.59.238]] 05:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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 "no update can never" is logically equivalent to "any update can". Not sure if this is intentional. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.60|162.158.106.60]] 16:49, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 : Isn't it logically equivalent to "any update can ''sometimes''"? Linguistically, of course, it can be equivalent either to this, or to "no update can".[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.198|141.101.105.198]] 16:59, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 : Or did Randall mean to type "no update can ever take this away" which makes more sense to me? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.76|172.68.54.76]] 19:08, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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 Hopefully somebody will make a full tutorial on how to accomplish the title text thing.
 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.241|162.158.89.241]] 19:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
-:I could do this easily on the computer with AutoHotKey (which might be overkill), but I'm not sure about iPhones, which are likely the target for the idea. iPhones have built-in text replacement, but I think you have to follow the word to be replaced with a space for it to work, rather than it working instantly (as "mapping a key on your keyboard" implies). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.41|172.68.26.41]] 19:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
+:I could do this easily on the computer with AutoHotKey (which might be overkill), but I'm not sure about iPhones, which are likely the target for the idea. iPhones have built-in text replacement, but I think you have to follow the word to be replaced with a ~spaaace~ for it to work, rather than it working instantly (as "mapping a key on your keyboard" implies). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.41|172.68.26.41]] 19:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 The correct url for this comic would be something like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD 1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD], but that is an invalid title. It would still probably be better to change it to "A ?" with a note instead of "A_%C3%AF%C2%BF%C2%BD". —[[User:Artyer|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer|talk]]<big>'''&#124;'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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	Interesting to note that the name of the posted image is i.png, which I guess DOES match the name of the comic? [[User:Alanbbent\|Alanbbent]] ([[User talk:Alanbbent\|talk]]) 22:35, 8 November 2017 (UTC)		Interesting to note that the name of the posted image is i.png, which I guess DOES match the name of the comic? [[User:Alanbbent\|Alanbbent]] ([[User talk:Alanbbent\|talk]]) 22:35, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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		+	Perhaps, change the strange symbol to its HTML entity, � [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.154\|108.162.249.154]] 23:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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	The correct url for this comic would be something like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD 1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD], but that is an invalid title. It would still probably be better to change it to "A ?" with a note instead of "A_%C3%AF%C2%BF%C2%BD". —[[User:Artyer\|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer\|talk]]<big>'''\|'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer\|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)		The correct url for this comic would be something like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD 1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD], but that is an invalid title. It would still probably be better to change it to "A ?" with a note instead of "A_%C3%AF%C2%BF%C2%BD". —[[User:Artyer\|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer\|talk]]<big>'''\|'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer\|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
	: I suggest using ⍰ (U+2370) instead, as it better approximates the original iOS display. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.52\|172.68.54.52]] 21:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC)		: I suggest using ⍰ (U+2370) instead, as it better approximates the original iOS display. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.52\|172.68.54.52]] 21:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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		+	Interesting to note that the name of the posted image is i.png, which I guess DOES match the name of the comic? [[User:Alanbbent\|Alanbbent]] ([[User talk:Alanbbent\|talk]]) 22:35, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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	The correct url for this comic would be something like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD 1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD], but that is an invalid title. It would still probably be better to change it to "A ?" with a note instead of "A_%C3%AF%C2%BF%C2%BD". —[[User:Artyer\|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer\|talk]]<big>'''\|'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer\|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)		The correct url for this comic would be something like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD 1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD], but that is an invalid title. It would still probably be better to change it to "A ?" with a note instead of "A_%C3%AF%C2%BF%C2%BD". —[[User:Artyer\|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer\|talk]]<big>'''\|'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer\|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
		+	: I suggest using ⍰ (U+2370) instead, as it better approximates the original iOS display. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.52\|172.68.54.52]] 21:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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	:I could do this easily on the computer with AutoHotKey (which might be overkill), but I'm not sure about iPhones, which are likely the target for the idea. iPhones have built-in text replacement, but I think you have to follow the word to be replaced with a space for it to work, rather than it working instantly (as "mapping a key on your keyboard" implies). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.41\|172.68.26.41]] 19:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)		:I could do this easily on the computer with AutoHotKey (which might be overkill), but I'm not sure about iPhones, which are likely the target for the idea. iPhones have built-in text replacement, but I think you have to follow the word to be replaced with a space for it to work, rather than it working instantly (as "mapping a key on your keyboard" implies). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.41\|172.68.26.41]] 19:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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		+	The correct url for this comic would be something like [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD 1913:_A_%EF%BF%BD], but that is an invalid title. It would still probably be better to change it to "A ?" with a note instead of "A_%C3%AF%C2%BF%C2%BD". —[[User:Artyer\|Artyer]] <sup><big>([[User Talk:Artyer\|talk]]<big>'''\|'''</big><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Artyer\|ctb]]</sub>)</big></sup> 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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	Hopefully somebody will make a full tutorial on how to accomplish the title text thing.		Hopefully somebody will make a full tutorial on how to accomplish the title text thing.
	[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.241\|162.158.89.241]] 19:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.241\|162.158.89.241]] 19:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
		+	:I could do this easily on the computer with AutoHotKey (which might be overkill), but I'm not sure about iPhones, which are likely the target for the idea. iPhones have built-in text replacement, but I think you have to follow the word to be replaced with a space for it to work, rather than it working instantly (as "mapping a key on your keyboard" implies). [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.41\|172.68.26.41]] 19:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)