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You've. Got. To. Append. New. Comments.

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Hire a politician next time

173.245.54.161 at 21:53, 5 November 2020

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162.158.91.137 at 15:00, 29 July 2018

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108.162.216.220 at 05:45, 1 May 2018

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Barmar at 16:29, 27 April 2018

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Elektrizikekswerk at 10:02, 27 April 2018

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Herobrine at 05:38, 27 April 2018

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Kynde at 21:59, 26 April 2018

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 I’ve wondered about this (from both the math and software development perspectives  anyway, not the linguist), so I look forward to seeing some actual answers as the explanation gets filled in :) [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 16:36, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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 ) '... there is a certain "resistance" to speech without a subject. Thus if you are in the passenger seat of a car going down the highway and happened to see some deer in the trees nearby, you could simply say "Deer.", rather than "there is a deer over there", deer being the subject of the sentence.'  Sure, you can!  How do you know that the person said "Deer" and not "Dear"?  2) If you are one of those who prefer punctuation inside quotes, note that "Dear?" is not the samething as "Dear." as the pitch could be used to disambiguate "Deer." and "Dear?"; this is not the case for "Deer." and "Dear."  3) "Of course it should be pointed out that hiring someone without any meteorological training to read the weather does not make them an actual meteorologist, no more than say hiring a bricklayer as a doctor would actually make them a real doctor."  So what is "a real doctor"?  I consider that a real doctor is someone who has a doctorate (degree).  Some consider it to be someone who is a medical doctor (and who probably does not have a doctorate).  4) My degree is a minor in Math, a major in Computing Science, and one course in it was in Linguistics.  Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220|108.162.216.220]] 05:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 :The chance is 20%+20%*0.8+20%*0.64+20%*0.512+20%0.4096=20%+16%+12.8%+10.24%+8.192%=67.232%. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.137|162.158.91.137]] 15:00, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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 I’ve wondered about this (from both the math and software development perspectives  anyway, not the linguist), so I look forward to seeing some actual answers as the explanation gets filled in :) [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 16:36, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 : The weather service has a [https://www.weather.gov/ffc/pop nice explanation] of this. After reading it you come away understanding that the percentage chance is... still almost impossible to discern :) {{unsigned ip|172.68.189.205}}

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	::How about "Weather and Meteorology"? [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 10:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)		::How about "Weather and Meteorology"? [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 10:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

		+	Does anyone know what the part in the explanation about classifying linear functions into two vector spaces means? Neither I nor anyone I know who's studied maths knows how to interpret this.

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	1) '... there is a certain "resistance" to speech without a subject. Thus if you are in the passenger seat of a car going down the highway and happened to see some deer in the trees nearby, you could simply say "Deer.", rather than "there is a deer over there", deer being the subject of the sentence.' Sure, you can! How do you know that the person said "Deer" and not "Dear"? 2) If you are one of those who prefer punctuation inside quotes, note that "Dear?" is not the samething as "Dear." as the pitch could be used to disambiguate "Deer." and "Dear?"; this is not the case for "Deer." and "Dear." 3) "Of course it should be pointed out that hiring someone without any meteorological training to read the weather does not make them an actual meteorologist, no more than say hiring a bricklayer as a doctor would actually make them a real doctor." So what is "a real doctor"? I consider that a real doctor is someone who has a doctorate (degree). Some consider it to be someone who is a medical doctor (and who probably does not have a doctorate). 4) My degree is a minor in Math, a major in Computing Science, and one course in it was in Linguistics. Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220\|108.162.216.220]] 05:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)		1) '... there is a certain "resistance" to speech without a subject. Thus if you are in the passenger seat of a car going down the highway and happened to see some deer in the trees nearby, you could simply say "Deer.", rather than "there is a deer over there", deer being the subject of the sentence.' Sure, you can! How do you know that the person said "Deer" and not "Dear"? 2) If you are one of those who prefer punctuation inside quotes, note that "Dear?" is not the samething as "Dear." as the pitch could be used to disambiguate "Deer." and "Dear?"; this is not the case for "Deer." and "Dear." 3) "Of course it should be pointed out that hiring someone without any meteorological training to read the weather does not make them an actual meteorologist, no more than say hiring a bricklayer as a doctor would actually make them a real doctor." So what is "a real doctor"? I consider that a real doctor is someone who has a doctorate (degree). Some consider it to be someone who is a medical doctor (and who probably does not have a doctorate). 4) My degree is a minor in Math, a major in Computing Science, and one course in it was in Linguistics. Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220\|108.162.216.220]] 05:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
		+	:The chance is 20%+20%0.8+20%0.64+20%*0.512+20%0.4096=20%+16%+12.8%+10.24%+8.192%=67.232%. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.137\|162.158.91.137]] 15:00, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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	Re 'even if I weren't I'd still not know whether the report system defines "12:00" as ...': Well, isn't part of the joke that it doesn't really matter? Weather forecasts use all these precise numbers and they have specific definitions for everything, but it's all just approximations -- there are wide error bars that are not mentioned. When they predict the temperature as "68 degrees", I mentally translate that to "high 60's". And "1pm" means "early afternoon". So even though their prediction for 12:00 means from 12:00 to 1:00, it's also likely to be a good approximation for 11:30 to 12:30. .		Re 'even if I weren't I'd still not know whether the report system defines "12:00" as ...': Well, isn't part of the joke that it doesn't really matter? Weather forecasts use all these precise numbers and they have specific definitions for everything, but it's all just approximations -- there are wide error bars that are not mentioned. When they predict the temperature as "68 degrees", I mentally translate that to "high 60's". And "1pm" means "early afternoon". So even though their prediction for 12:00 means from 12:00 to 1:00, it's also likely to be a good approximation for 11:30 to 12:30. .
	[[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 16:29, 27 April 2018 (UTC)		[[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 16:29, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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		+	1) '... there is a certain "resistance" to speech without a subject. Thus if you are in the passenger seat of a car going down the highway and happened to see some deer in the trees nearby, you could simply say "Deer.", rather than "there is a deer over there", deer being the subject of the sentence.' Sure, you can! How do you know that the person said "Deer" and not "Dear"? 2) If you are one of those who prefer punctuation inside quotes, note that "Dear?" is not the samething as "Dear." as the pitch could be used to disambiguate "Deer." and "Dear?"; this is not the case for "Deer." and "Dear." 3) "Of course it should be pointed out that hiring someone without any meteorological training to read the weather does not make them an actual meteorologist, no more than say hiring a bricklayer as a doctor would actually make them a real doctor." So what is "a real doctor"? I consider that a real doctor is someone who has a doctorate (degree). Some consider it to be someone who is a medical doctor (and who probably does not have a doctorate). 4) My degree is a minor in Math, a major in Computing Science, and one course in it was in Linguistics. Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220\|108.162.216.220]] 05:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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		+	Re 'even if I weren't I'd still not know whether the report system defines "12:00" as ...': Well, isn't part of the joke that it doesn't really matter? Weather forecasts use all these precise numbers and they have specific definitions for everything, but it's all just approximations -- there are wide error bars that are not mentioned. When they predict the temperature as "68 degrees", I mentally translate that to "high 60's". And "1pm" means "early afternoon". So even though their prediction for 12:00 means from 12:00 to 1:00, it's also likely to be a good approximation for 11:30 to 12:30. .
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	:I think we can create a new "Weather" or "Meteorology" category, and make the hurricane and tornado categories subcategories of the new weather/meteorology category. But should it be weather or meteorology? [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 05:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)		:I think we can create a new "Weather" or "Meteorology" category, and make the hurricane and tornado categories subcategories of the new weather/meteorology category. But should it be weather or meteorology? [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 05:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
		+	::How about "Weather and Meteorology"? [[User:Elektrizikekswerk\|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk\|talk]]) 10:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)



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 :So just wait a few more days.--[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
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 There is no such thing as "12 [post meridiem]" - it's literally at meridian. Grammatically, "pm" should be capitalized as an abbreviation. Should this be noted? (The linguist could explain it to the programmer.)[[User:Roguetech|Roguetech]] ([[User talk:Roguetech|talk]]) 12:54, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
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