Talk:1993: Fatal Crash Rate - Revision history

162.158.134.10 at 10:38, 18 May 2018

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Hkmaly at 01:10, 16 May 2018

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N0lqu at 21:30, 15 May 2018

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N0lqu at 21:29, 15 May 2018

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108.162.216.220 at 04:37, 15 May 2018

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Herobrine at 03:47, 15 May 2018

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Chrispugner at 20:15, 14 May 2018

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Chrispugner at 20:14, 14 May 2018

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ProphetZarquon at 16:39, 14 May 2018

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ProphetZarquon at 16:38, 14 May 2018

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 ::According to Randall, a fatality rate of zero could only be achieved if self-driving cars worked well and if all cars on the road were self-driving cars.  Assuming both conditions true, as they might be some day (or conversely might never be true), then it should be possible to minimize crashes to the point where fatalities would be statistically zero though certainly not absolutely zero, as malfunctions could happen. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 21:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 ::Obviously, you reach a fatality rate of zero when there is no human on the road or around. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 01:10, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 "Fixating on this seems unhealty. But in general, the more likely I think a crash is, the less likely one becomes, which is a strange kind of reverse placebo effect."  It will not be a reverse effect if "It feels weird to look at car crash statistics and wonder whether we'll all be able to stop driving before I'm involved in a fatal crash." is being done while driving.  Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220|108.162.216.220]] 04:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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 :But even after "general safety improvements", the crash rate (top middle graph) is still not zero, so the bottom graph makes no sense... And how would you achieve a fatality rate of zero? [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 03:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 ::According to Randall, a fatality rate of zero could only be achieved if self-driving cars worked well and if all cars on the road were self-driving cars.  Assuming both conditions true, as they might be some day (or conversely might never be true), then it should be possible to minimize crashes to the point where fatalities would be statistically zero though certainly not absolutely zero, as malfunctions could happen. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 21:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 "Fixating on this seems unhealty. But in general, the more likely I think a crash is, the less likely one becomes, which is a strange kind of reverse placebo effect."  It will not be a reverse effect if "It feels weird to look at car crash statistics and wonder whether we'll all be able to stop driving before I'm involved in a fatal crash." is being done while driving.  Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220|108.162.216.220]] 04:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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-Bad graphs, man.<br>
+Bad graphs, man. ~ [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC) <br>
-~ [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC) <br>
+This implies that self-driving cars would have a fatality rate of zero. --[[User:Chrispugner|Chrispugner]] ([[User talk:Chrispugner|talk]]) 20:15, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 :But even after "general safety improvements", the crash rate (top middle graph) is still not zero, so the bottom graph makes no sense... And how would you achieve a fatality rate of zero? [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 03:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 ::According to Randall, a fatality rate of zero could only be achieved if self-driving cars worked well and if all cars on the road were self-driving cars.  Assuming both conditions true, as they might be some day (or conversely might never be true), then it should be possible to minimize crashes to the point where fatalities would be statistically zero though certainly not absolutely zero, as malfunctions could happen. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 21:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 "Fixating on this seems unhealty. But in general, the more likely I think a crash is, the less likely one becomes, which is a strange kind of reverse placebo effect."  It will not be a reverse effect if "It feels weird to look at car crash statistics and wonder whether we'll all be able to stop driving before I'm involved in a fatal crash." is being done while driving.  Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220|108.162.216.220]] 04:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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 --[[User:Chrispugner|Chrispugner]] ([[User talk:Chrispugner|talk]]) 20:15, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 :But even after "general safety improvements", the crash rate (top middle graph) is still not zero, so the bottom graph makes no sense... And how would you achieve a fatality rate of zero? [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 03:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 "Fixating on this seems unhealty. But in general, the more likely I think a crash is, the less likely one becomes, which is a strange kind of reverse placebo effect."  It will not be a reverse effect if "It feels weird to look at car crash statistics and wonder whether we'll all be able to stop driving before I'm involved in a fatal crash." is being done while driving.  Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220|108.162.216.220]] 04:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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	:But even after "general safety improvements", the crash rate (top middle graph) is still not zero, so the bottom graph makes no sense... And how would you achieve a fatality rate of zero? [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 03:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)		:But even after "general safety improvements", the crash rate (top middle graph) is still not zero, so the bottom graph makes no sense... And how would you achieve a fatality rate of zero? [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 03:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
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		+	"Fixating on this seems unhealty. But in general, the more likely I think a crash is, the less likely one becomes, which is a strange kind of reverse placebo effect." It will not be a reverse effect if "It feels weird to look at car crash statistics and wonder whether we'll all be able to stop driving before I'm involved in a fatal crash." is being done while driving. Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.220\|108.162.216.220]] 04:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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	This implies that self-driving cars would have a fatality rate of zero. <br>		This implies that self-driving cars would have a fatality rate of zero. <br>
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		+	:But even after "general safety improvements", the crash rate (top middle graph) is still not zero, so the bottom graph makes no sense... And how would you achieve a fatality rate of zero? [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 03:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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	Bad graphs, man.<br>		Bad graphs, man.<br>
	~ [[User:ProphetZarquon\|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon\|talk]]) 16:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)		~ [[User:ProphetZarquon\|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon\|talk]]) 16:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
		+	This implies that self-driving cars would have a fatality rate of zero.
		+	--[[User:Chrispugner\|Chrispugner]] ([[User talk:Chrispugner\|talk]]) 20:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)