Talk:2057: Internal Monologues - Revision history

Nitpicking: Stupid interface put my typing in the wrong control

2024-12-23T18:41:31Z

Stupid interface put my typing in the wrong control

Nitpicking: Ex-biology teacher pedants at you

2024-12-23T18:40:59Z

Ex-biology teacher pedants at you

Nitpicking: Uncontrollable plant biochemistry pedantry

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Uncontrollable plant biochemistry pedantry

Rps at 11:34, 16 August 2021

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Hawthorn at 12:28, 24 October 2018

2018-10-24T12:28:45Z

Dgbrt at 19:51, 23 October 2018

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Hawthorn at 12:44, 23 October 2018

2018-10-23T12:44:55Z

Dgbrt at 18:42, 22 October 2018

2018-10-22T18:42:55Z

Hawthorn at 10:33, 22 October 2018

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Lupo at 21:50, 12 October 2018

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	Other major components of plants (and all life) are proteins, which are also composed of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen (derived from air and water), as well as nitrogen. Nitrogen is also extracted from the air, but not directly by plants. Instead, they largely get it from bacteria, either in soils or colonizing the plants themselves, as in legumes. Woody plants have a large component of lignins ... which also derive from atmospheric CHO. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:03, 9 August 2022 (UTC)		Other major components of plants (and all life) are proteins, which are also composed of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen (derived from air and water), as well as nitrogen. Nitrogen is also extracted from the air, but not directly by plants. Instead, they largely get it from bacteria, either in soils or colonizing the plants themselves, as in legumes. Woody plants have a large component of lignins ... which also derive from atmospheric CHO. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:03, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

−	How much detail do we need to go into about the composition of plants? Nitrogen for proteins also comes from air, mostly via the bacterial symbionts of various green plants (e. g. legumes). Some plants ("air plants") extract water directly from the air, too. However: is that funny? Does it add to the explanation of the comic? [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 18:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)~~Ex-~~	+	How much detail do we need to go into about the composition of plants? Nitrogen for proteins also comes from air, mostly via the bacterial symbionts of various green plants (e. g. legumes). Some plants ("air plants") extract water directly from the air, too. However: is that funny? Does it add to the explanation of the comic? [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 18:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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	Other major components of plants (and all life) are proteins, which are also composed of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen (derived from air and water), as well as nitrogen. Nitrogen is also extracted from the air, but not directly by plants. Instead, they largely get it from bacteria, either in soils or colonizing the plants themselves, as in legumes. Woody plants have a large component of lignins ... which also derive from atmospheric CHO. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:03, 9 August 2022 (UTC)		Other major components of plants (and all life) are proteins, which are also composed of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen (derived from air and water), as well as nitrogen. Nitrogen is also extracted from the air, but not directly by plants. Instead, they largely get it from bacteria, either in soils or colonizing the plants themselves, as in legumes. Woody plants have a large component of lignins ... which also derive from atmospheric CHO. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:03, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	How much detail do we need to go into about the composition of plants? Nitrogen for proteins also comes from air, mostly via the bacterial symbionts of various green plants (e. g. legumes). Some plants ("air plants") extract water directly from the air, too. However: is that funny? Does it add to the explanation of the comic? [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 18:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)Ex-

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	The converse of this is that, if you are on a diet, you lose mass through your lungs. The carbon in the molecules is lost in the form of CO2. The hydrogen and oxygen are lost in the form of water, part of which is also lost as water vapor in the lungs.		The converse of this is that, if you are on a diet, you lose mass through your lungs. The carbon in the molecules is lost in the form of CO2. The hydrogen and oxygen are lost in the form of water, part of which is also lost as water vapor in the lungs.
	[[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 11:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)		[[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 11:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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		+	Other major components of plants (and all life) are proteins, which are also composed of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen (derived from air and water), as well as nitrogen. Nitrogen is also extracted from the air, but not directly by plants. Instead, they largely get it from bacteria, either in soils or colonizing the plants themselves, as in legumes. Woody plants have a large component of lignins ... which also derive from atmospheric CHO. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:03, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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	:::Since the other "scientists" also do simple statements about a single fact you have convinced me. A real physicist never would forget that objects like phones are pulled together by electromagnetism, but Cueball does. I've reverted my edit with a small addition to the former text. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:51, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		:::Since the other "scientists" also do simple statements about a single fact you have convinced me. A real physicist never would forget that objects like phones are pulled together by electromagnetism, but Cueball does. I've reverted my edit with a small addition to the former text. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:51, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
	::::Thanks! :) [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)		::::Thanks! :) [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
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		+	"Botany - Megan: I can't get over the fact that trees are made of air" <br>
		+	The converse of this is that, if you are on a diet, you lose mass through your lungs. The carbon in the molecules is lost in the form of CO2. The hydrogen and oxygen are lost in the form of water, part of which is also lost as water vapor in the lungs.
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	::I'm almost certain that you're misreading or misunderstanding what Cueball is saying. He isn't describing his phone being "pulled together" in the sense of intermolecular forces between atoms. Read the sentence again: he's describing the Earth and his phone being pulled ''to each other''. And while yes, it is true to say that Cueball's "feeling" is electromagnetic in nature (ie. he "feels" the atomic bonds, not the gravitational attraction), I don't think that's the intention behind his words. He's not marveling at the electromagnetics of the situation; he's describing two objects that differ only in their masses, and his place in that interaction. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		::I'm almost certain that you're misreading or misunderstanding what Cueball is saying. He isn't describing his phone being "pulled together" in the sense of intermolecular forces between atoms. Read the sentence again: he's describing the Earth and his phone being pulled ''to each other''. And while yes, it is true to say that Cueball's "feeling" is electromagnetic in nature (ie. he "feels" the atomic bonds, not the gravitational attraction), I don't think that's the intention behind his words. He's not marveling at the electromagnetics of the situation; he's describing two objects that differ only in their masses, and his place in that interaction. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
	:::Since the other "scientists" also do simple statements about a single fact you have convinced me. A real physicist never would forget that objects like phones are pulled together by electromagnetism, but Cueball does. I've reverted my edit with a small addition to the former text. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:51, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		:::Since the other "scientists" also do simple statements about a single fact you have convinced me. A real physicist never would forget that objects like phones are pulled together by electromagnetism, but Cueball does. I've reverted my edit with a small addition to the former text. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:51, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
		+	::::Thanks! :) [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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	:Cueball mentions the feeling how a phone is pulled together. That is electromagnetism and NOT gravity. And also touching it with your hands involves electromagnetism rather than gravity. AND gravity is pulling you to the center of the Earth, but you are stopped by electromagnetism between the Earth surface and you. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)		:Cueball mentions the feeling how a phone is pulled together. That is electromagnetism and NOT gravity. And also touching it with your hands involves electromagnetism rather than gravity. AND gravity is pulling you to the center of the Earth, but you are stopped by electromagnetism between the Earth surface and you. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
	::I'm almost certain that you're misreading or misunderstanding what Cueball is saying. He isn't describing his phone being "pulled together" in the sense of intermolecular forces between atoms. Read the sentence again: he's describing the Earth and his phone being pulled ''to each other''. And while yes, it is true to say that Cueball's "feeling" is electromagnetic in nature (ie. he "feels" the atomic bonds, not the gravitational attraction), I don't think that's the intention behind his words. He's not marveling at the electromagnetics of the situation; he's describing two objects that differ only in their masses, and his place in that interaction. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		::I'm almost certain that you're misreading or misunderstanding what Cueball is saying. He isn't describing his phone being "pulled together" in the sense of intermolecular forces between atoms. Read the sentence again: he's describing the Earth and his phone being pulled ''to each other''. And while yes, it is true to say that Cueball's "feeling" is electromagnetic in nature (ie. he "feels" the atomic bonds, not the gravitational attraction), I don't think that's the intention behind his words. He's not marveling at the electromagnetics of the situation; he's describing two objects that differ only in their masses, and his place in that interaction. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
		+	:::Since the other "scientists" also do simple statements about a single fact you have convinced me. A real physicist never would forget that objects like phones are pulled together by electromagnetism, but Cueball does. I've reverted my edit with a small addition to the former text. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:51, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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	Honestly, I thought [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2057:_Internal_Monologues&diff=164261&oldid=164207 my explanation] of the Physics one was much better. The current explanation doesn't seem to address what Cueball is actually thinking. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 10:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)		Honestly, I thought [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2057:_Internal_Monologues&diff=164261&oldid=164207 my explanation] of the Physics one was much better. The current explanation doesn't seem to address what Cueball is actually thinking. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 10:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
	:Cueball mentions the feeling how a phone is pulled together. That is electromagnetism and NOT gravity. And also touching it with your hands involves electromagnetism rather than gravity. AND gravity is pulling you to the center of the Earth, but you are stopped by electromagnetism between the Earth surface and you. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)		:Cueball mentions the feeling how a phone is pulled together. That is electromagnetism and NOT gravity. And also touching it with your hands involves electromagnetism rather than gravity. AND gravity is pulling you to the center of the Earth, but you are stopped by electromagnetism between the Earth surface and you. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
		+	::I'm almost certain that you're misreading or misunderstanding what Cueball is saying. He isn't describing his phone being "pulled together" in the sense of intermolecular forces between atoms. Read the sentence again: he's describing the Earth and his phone being pulled ''to each other''. And while yes, it is true to say that Cueball's "feeling" is electromagnetic in nature (ie. he "feels" the atomic bonds, not the gravitational attraction), I don't think that's the intention behind his words. He's not marveling at the electromagnetics of the situation; he's describing two objects that differ only in their masses, and his place in that interaction. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 12:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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	Honestly, I thought [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2057:_Internal_Monologues&diff=164261&oldid=164207 my explanation] of the Physics one was much better. The current explanation doesn't seem to address what Cueball is actually thinking. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 10:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)		Honestly, I thought [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2057:_Internal_Monologues&diff=164261&oldid=164207 my explanation] of the Physics one was much better. The current explanation doesn't seem to address what Cueball is actually thinking. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 10:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
		+	:Cueball mentions the feeling how a phone is pulled together. That is electromagnetism and NOT gravity. And also touching it with your hands involves electromagnetism rather than gravity. AND gravity is pulling you to the center of the Earth, but you are stopped by electromagnetism between the Earth surface and you. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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	:Maybe, but it's only trivia because it doesn't explain this comic. And we have categories shown at the bottom. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)		:Maybe, but it's only trivia because it doesn't explain this comic. And we have categories shown at the bottom. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
	::Yes, you are right, it fits better in trivia. Thanks for moving it there. Categories do not show the similarity in doctor ponytails statements. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 21:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)		::Yes, you are right, it fits better in trivia. Thanks for moving it there. Categories do not show the similarity in doctor ponytails statements. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 21:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
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		+	Honestly, I thought [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2057:_Internal_Monologues&diff=164261&oldid=164207 my explanation] of the Physics one was much better. The current explanation doesn't seem to address what Cueball is actually thinking. [[User:Hawthorn\|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn\|talk]]) 10:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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	A link between this comic and 1839 is needed (both directions), as the doctor is having the same issues. Would do it myself, but I am at work and do not have the time for proper writing, and will forget about this by the time I am home.--[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 06:41, 12 October 2018 (UTC)		A link between this comic and 1839 is needed (both directions), as the doctor is having the same issues. Would do it myself, but I am at work and do not have the time for proper writing, and will forget about this by the time I am home.--[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 06:41, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
	:Maybe, but it's only trivia because it doesn't explain this comic. And we have categories shown at the bottom. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)		:Maybe, but it's only trivia because it doesn't explain this comic. And we have categories shown at the bottom. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
		+	::Yes, you are right, it fits better in trivia. Thanks for moving it there. Categories do not show the similarity in doctor ponytails statements. --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 21:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)