Talk:2082: Mercator Projection - Revision history

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	You're supposed to capitalize "Northwest" in "Pacific Northwest". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.34\|108.162.246.34]] 20:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)		You're supposed to capitalize "Northwest" in "Pacific Northwest". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.34\|108.162.246.34]] 20:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Depends. The "Pacific Northwest" may be a semi-informal region in its own right, but the "Pacific" region (which may not necessarily be "The Pacific Ocean") could be considered a larger, or maybe even completely different, semi-informal region which (less formally) can be said to have a northwest sub(sub-)part.
		+	:Just like the town of {{w\|Rushden}} could reasonably, if confusingly, be said to be "in the North Northamptonshire south". [[Special:Contributions/172.70.58.45\|172.70.58.45]] 23:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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	The trivia should be merged with the main explanation. The fact that a projection can't erase a border, such as the land border between the US and Canada, is an important part of the joke. -[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.161\|108.162.238.161]] 06:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)		The trivia should be merged with the main explanation. The fact that a projection can't erase a border, such as the land border between the US and Canada, is an important part of the joke. -[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.161\|108.162.238.161]] 06:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
	:Agree, Done --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)		:Agree, Done --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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		+	You're supposed to capitalize "Northwest" in "Pacific Northwest". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.34\|108.162.246.34]] 20:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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 Both the XKCD comic (in its caption) and the explanation (in its current form) misuse the word "fact."  The point that Randall is trying to make is that you can convince people of '''lies''' or anyway '''mistaken ideas''' by referring to the Mercator projection.  '''Facts''' are by definition correct. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.166|162.158.63.166]] 13:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 ::Facts can also be anything ''presented'' as objectively real. Under that definition, this is proper usage. [[User:Saklad5|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5|talk]]) 20:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance. [[User:Saklad5|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5|talk]]) 20:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

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 I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance. [[User:Saklad5|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5|talk]]) 20:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
-: You could probably do it with a Peirce quincuncial that's not centered on the North Pole. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.108|172.68.59.108]] 15:04, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
+: You could probably do it with a janky Peirce quincuncial that's not centered on the North Pole. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.108|172.68.59.108]] 15:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 The trivia should be merged with the main explanation. The fact that a projection can't erase a border, such as the land border between the US and Canada, is an important part of the joke. -[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.161|108.162.238.161]] 06:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 :Agree, Done --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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 I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance. [[User:Saklad5|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5|talk]]) 20:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 The trivia should be merged with the main explanation. The fact that a projection can't erase a border, such as the land border between the US and Canada, is an important part of the joke. -[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.161|108.162.238.161]] 06:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 :Agree, Done --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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 The choice of characters in this comic is...interesting. I never got the impression that White Hat was gullible. [[User:GreatWyrmGold|GreatWyrmGold]] ([[User talk:GreatWyrmGold|talk]]) 21:27, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 I can convince people that all of Randal's maps are real? [[User:Linker|Linker]] ([[User talk:Linker|talk]]) 00:53, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
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 The trivia should be merged with the main explanation. The fact that a projection can't erase a border, such as the land border between the US and Canada, is an important part of the joke. -[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.161|108.162.238.161]] 06:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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	Mercator map projection has the advantage that shortest line between two points on Earth (on globe) is straight line in this projection. --[[User:JakubNarebski\|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski\|talk]]) 11:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)		Mercator map projection has the advantage that shortest line between two points on Earth (on globe) is straight line in this projection. --[[User:JakubNarebski\|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski\|talk]]) 11:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
		+	::I'm afraid you are mistaken. A straight line on Mercator translates to a {{w\|rhumb line}}, not a {{w\|great-circle distance\|great circle}}. Rhumb lines are useful for navigation, more so than great circles if all you have is a compass, but they are not (necessarily) the shortest distance between two points. [[User:Jaalenja\|Jaalenja]] ([[User talk:Jaalenja\|talk]]) 08:17, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

	The largest islands in Lake Ontario are either the western parts of the Thousand Islands or the southern-most part of the City of Toronto. Neither would be considered "in the middle" of the lake. While Lake Erie has some islands in the middle, like Middle Island, Lake Ontario does not have similar navigation targets/hazards. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 17:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)		The largest islands in Lake Ontario are either the western parts of the Thousand Islands or the southern-most part of the City of Toronto. Neither would be considered "in the middle" of the lake. While Lake Erie has some islands in the middle, like Middle Island, Lake Ontario does not have similar navigation targets/hazards. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 17:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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	I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance. [[User:Saklad5\|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5\|talk]]) 20:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)		I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance. [[User:Saklad5\|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5\|talk]]) 20:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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		+	The trivia should be merged with the main explanation. The fact that a projection can't erase a border, such as the land border between the US and Canada, is an important part of the joke. -[[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.161\|108.162.238.161]] 06:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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	::Facts can also be anything ''presented'' as objectively real. Under that definition, this is proper usage. [[User:Saklad5\|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5\|talk]]) 20:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)		::Facts can also be anything ''presented'' as objectively real. Under that definition, this is proper usage. [[User:Saklad5\|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5\|talk]]) 20:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

−	I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance.	+	I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance. [[User:Saklad5\|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5\|talk]]) 20:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

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	Both the XKCD comic (in its caption) and the explanation (in its current form) misuse the word "fact." The point that Randall is trying to make is that you can convince people of '''lies''' or anyway '''mistaken ideas''' by referring to the Mercator projection. '''Facts''' are by definition correct. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.166\|162.158.63.166]] 13:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)		Both the XKCD comic (in its caption) and the explanation (in its current form) misuse the word "fact." The point that Randall is trying to make is that you can convince people of '''lies''' or anyway '''mistaken ideas''' by referring to the Mercator projection. '''Facts''' are by definition correct. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.166\|162.158.63.166]] 13:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
	::Facts can also be anything ''presented'' as objectively real. Under that definition, this is proper usage. [[User:Saklad5\|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5\|talk]]) 20:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)		::Facts can also be anything ''presented'' as objectively real. Under that definition, this is proper usage. [[User:Saklad5\|Saklad5]] ([[User talk:Saklad5\|talk]]) 20:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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		+	I wonder if it is possible to make a map projection stupid enough to support this at first glance.